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What is Man in America Podcast?

Seth Holehouse is a TV personality, YouTuber, podcaster, and patriot who became a household name in 2020 after his video exposing election fraud was tweeted, shared, uploaded, and pinned by President Donald Trump — reaching hundreds of millions worldwide.

Titled The Plot to Steal America, the video was created with a mission to warn Americans about the communist threat to our nation—a mission that’s been at the forefront of Seth’s life for nearly two decades.

After 10 years behind the scenes at The Epoch Times, launching his own show was the logical next step. Since its debut, Seth’s show “Man in America” has garnered 1M+ viewers on a monthly basis as his commitment to bring hope to patriots and to fight communism and socialism grows daily. His guests have included Peter Navarro, Kash Patel, Senator Wendy Rogers, General Michael Flynn, and General Robert Spalding.

He is also a regular speaker at the “ReAwaken America Tour” alongside Eric Trump, Mike Lindell, Gen. Flynn.

Seth Holehouse: 01:33

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Man in America. I'm your host, Seth Hull House. So today is gonna be, what I think a very special show and a special interview and I'll I'll share a few personal thoughts before we jump into it. But, you know, look, over the past couple of years, we've had so many threats, you know, threats to our food system, threat to our freedom in almost every way possible, threats to our, our bodies with vaccines and all kinds of crazy stuff. We've had so many losses of security and and it feels like they're just shredding your constitution and there were different things that brought us hope.

Seth Holehouse: 02:15

There was this hope of devolution, this hope that maybe that you know, the white hats are still in control somehow after all these years of seeing our nation be destroyed. There's all these different things that we turn to to try to make sense of it. And on my personal journey, I feel like that I I really tried to sober up to look at what was happening and be very realistic, and while still say reserving a little bit of part of my mind saying, okay, maybe there's this magical thing that's that's happening behind the scenes that's gonna really help us. But also just looking at things with a very sober mind and bringing on experts to talk about stuff. And I know that it's been difficult.

Seth Holehouse: 02:52

Some of these shows have been difficult, and they're depressing. And I don't necessarily like that. I don't want to be that kind of person, but I also don't want to just tell you everything is okay and not be warning you and not be saying, look folks, grow a garden, you know, get out of the cities. And the people I've talked that have followed that advice are saying, gosh, it's one of the best moves I've made in my life to make some of those changes, but there's something interesting that's kind of shifted in me in the past, really the past couple of months, the past couple of weeks, especially where I've just come to this place where like when I look at all these plans, look at the the elites, say you want to call them that, I hate that word for them, but it's just you know who I'm talking about. And I look at where we're at in history and where our country is at, and you look at these different ideas and these plans for say central bank digital currency, you know, like digital IDs, vaccine passports, a lot of this especially we trace the history of it, you see how long they've been talking about this, it feels very overwhelming.

Seth Holehouse: 03:55

It feels like, gosh, how do we have any chance at this because they've been playing this for so long and they control everything. We have no we have no hope, But I've I don't know, just something has shifted inside of me. Right now I look at these people, and I had this thought that they're the ones that are afraid of us. Whether it's Klaus Schwab or Xi Jinping or Trudeau or Biden, Clinton, any of these people that we've in the past thought, oh my gosh, like they're they're really running things and we're really worried or they're maybe a puppet on behalf of somebody else. I actually believe that something significant is shifting, and that a lot of good people are really starting to stand up and what would you know, they call the great awakening that is truly is happening.

Seth Holehouse: 04:43

And, you know, look looking back at the story of Sodom and Gomorrah, it's like, okay, if there were a few good people, a few good people, those cities would have been saved, but there weren't any. But when I look around at America, there's so many good people. There are so many good people. It's not just America, around the world. There's so many good people.

Seth Holehouse: 05:04

And so like what we had what we've had happen is as this evil agenda has gotten stronger and stronger, and it wants us to be scared of it, Right? It wants us to think, oh my gosh, it's all powerful. But as that evils come to the surface, a lot of people that maybe in the past were sitting on the fence, their good is coming to the surface and their divine nature is coming to surface. And I'm seeing just a massive movement of people returning back to God, strengthening their families, strengthening their morality, strengthening their community, becoming convicted and full of this this conviction to fight for our country and to fight for our children and fight for what's good. And all of this honestly gives me a hope towards the future of humanity that I feel like I haven't had in some time.

Seth Holehouse: 05:50

It's, it's really wonderful, actually. And so, joining me today, and actually I'm doing this introduction after the conversation we just had, is a radio host, out of The UK, his name is David Vance, and he's, he's a riot if you follow him on Twitter, but this conversation that we have is honestly, it's probably one of the most happy and fun lighthearted conversations I've had in a really long time and it just left me with so much hope. So I folks, I just I really hope you enjoy this discussion. Please, if you want to share this with your friends and families and look, this is gonna make you smile because honestly, it just it just it's such a positive story that we're both kind of telling he's coming from, you know, across the pond, we're coming together and saying, gosh, we're on the same team. We're the Patriots.

Seth Holehouse: 06:39

We're fighting for our freedom and the elites are scared of us. So anyway, folks, I just absolutely enjoy this. Have a good fun have a good show, watching this and listening to it. And I hope it leaves you with a giant smile on your face. So enjoy this interview, folks, with David Vance.

Seth Holehouse: 06:56

David, thank you so much for coming on the show. It's great to have you here.

Speaker 2: 07:01

Yeah. No. Absolute pleasure to be on with you as well. Thank you so much for the opportunity.

Seth Holehouse: 07:05

Oh, of course. You know, it's interesting because for those that are watching or listening, they can say, hey, this guy is not from America, and you're coming from Ireland and The UK. And I think that, you know, but you're you're you're me. You're a patriot. You're someone that cares about your freedom that's fighting for it.

Seth Holehouse: 07:23

And, you know, something amazing is happening. This is what I really want to hone in on today is that in the past when you had tyranny, you know, maybe you had the Soviet Union where it was spreading out into these other countries and they're getting swallowed up by the Iron Curtain, but it was usually very isolated, you know, it was maybe, you know, the Chinese Communist Party and the Chinese, it was the Cambodian government and the Cambodian people. What's happening right now though, is that we're in this war, this fifth generation war where it's literally, you and I are on the exact same team and you and I and some guy in South Africa, some guy in Taiwan, we're all on the same team up against an enemy or a collection of enemies that want to bring about a global totalitarian technocracy, one world order, no longer a conspiracy. This is it's in the headlines. And so, I mean, it's just, it's amazing talking to you.

Seth Holehouse: 08:20

Think that there's there's a lot of lessons we can take away from that. And also to realize that there's billions of people around the world that are all on the same team, we just have to all come together. Mean, what do what do you think about that?

Speaker 2: 08:32

No, I see it exactly the same. I mean, for me, one of the great awakenings of the past three years has been to see Patriots right across the world. All of a sudden, we've had to stand up, we've had come to the fore and speak out against, as you said, the ever encroaching tyranny that kind of went into hyper speed back in early twenty twenty. So like you, Seth, I find it amazing that I find myself talking to people actually, I find myself talking to people who would have been prior to 2020, maybe even ideologically different to me. So, I mean, I would describe myself as a conservative, a small c conservativelibertarian esque type person.

Speaker 2: 09:19

But I find allies now who would have been different to that, probably more on the left, but they have been able to discard some of their baggage and realign themselves, Seth, around this fundamental fight battle that we are in. It's an existential battle, in my view, between right and wrong, good and evil. And it means that, yes, we have global patriots, which is amazing to say it. And it's actually quite, isn't it, when you say it like that, it's quite liberating to say, and that's us. Who would have thought it but that's how it is.

Seth Holehouse: 09:59

It's incredible and so I'd like to kind of figure and kind of learn from you what you're seeing in your region because I can share that here in America, I think America is, in a lot of ways, look at it as the last bastion, you know, if they can topple America, like we're the last country that's really standing in the way of this, we've got our guns, we've got our constitution, we've got our faith, and those are things that are antithetical to a totalitarian system. And what's been amazing is that, again, over the past couple of years, that you have seen this massive awakening. And so, I'm really involved in the reawaken America tours, you know, with General Flynn and Clay Clark and Mike Lindell. Yep. And so we're going to, you know, kind of state by state and speaking, and it's been so inspiring to me because as much as you're seeing this intense evil that is appearing and showing up in our country with drag queen story hour and the transgender movement and you know, satanic agenda that is now out in the open, it feels like that's gotten very evil.

Seth Holehouse: 11:05

But what I've also witnessed is that as that's gotten more evil, a lot of people have gotten much more good. A lot of people have have seen the evil for what it is and they've said, I can no longer be neutral, I have to pick the side of good. And so I'm seeing this massive revival of people in America that are homeschooling their kids, that are, you know, returning back to traditional ways of living, living, moving out to the country, living off the land, you know, pulling their kids out of public schools, starting private schools, starting other companies. And it's as much as it's easy to fixate on the plans of the globalist and the satanist and forget about this, The the beautiful part about it is that as bad as they're making it, there's this equal and opposite reaction of good happening. And I'm seeing it all over the place in America.

Seth Holehouse: 11:55

I want to see what are you seeing? Because I know that UK has really been a main target for the globalist agenda.

Speaker 2: 12:02

Oh, is. Well, two responses to that. In the first instance, what you say with your American audience, you should understand that a lot of us people around the world, we do look to America as that kind of beacon because we fully understand if America falls, we all fall. And we know that America is in a precarious shape because of the forces that have grabbed par. So we stand very much with you, because our interests are completely aligned.

Speaker 2: 12:36

We know that if it wasn't for you guys, and I guess on the American patriotic side of things, the awakened patriots, we would be in a really bad position. So we are hopeful and thankful that you guys will prevail on your side of the Atlantic. Meanwhile, second point, over here The UK side of things, I mean, we face pretty much exactly the same thing as you, except of course we are an unarmed population. So that's not good. Secondly, I mean, faith in The UK has been relentlessly attacked, relentlessly attacked over the last sort of twenty, thirty years or so, I suppose.

Speaker 2: 13:22

So we see a decline in faith. And then the third element is we see here, again, exactly the same thing that you mentioned. You know, we see the awful satanic inversion of the LGBTQ plus, you know, narrative. We see that here as well. We see how our children, our kids, the most important thing we have being targeted in all kinds of ways.

Speaker 2: 13:52

You know, they've been targeted the so called COVID vaccines, targeted for all this propaganda. So again, though, it's the same as with you. There are people, ordinary people who have been awakening here as well. And the thing about COVID was that was really inspiring was because we were told, Oh, you got to lock down, you mustn't go out and sort of get together with friends. Well, we did the opposite, right?

Speaker 2: 14:24

So we rallies and I mean, it was amazing to go to these events and encounter people across the spectrum, all kinds of ethnicities, demographics, didn't matter. But the one thing we had in common was, hey, we think this is wrong and we're making a stand. Now that's good to see. And that's the building base that I think, and I don't know what you think, but I think that is being built on all the time and everything that's being pushed our way. I don't think the evil forces against us understand that all that does is it emboldens us, doesn't make us weaker, doesn't make us weaker at all, it makes us more resolute.

Speaker 2: 15:09

So that resolution of patriots everywhere is a really good thing, something I'm very happy about and it encourages me. So we have it in The UK as well.

Seth Holehouse: 15:22

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Seth Holehouse: 15:42

This is a really important question folks that we have to be very realistic about because the elites are proactively trying to put us into a state of food crisis and a state of famine. I'm sure you've seen all of the different food processing plants and farms that are blowing up. You've got cattle dying by the tens of thousands. They're proactively trying to collapse our food system because they know if they can control our food, they can control us. And so one of the best ways to be outside of their control is to be able to have our own stores of food and to be able to produce our own food.

Seth Holehouse: 16:14

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Seth Holehouse: 16:34

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Seth Holehouse: 18:05

Yeah, it's good to hear that because when I look at The UK sometimes and you typically we see the the headlines that you about fifteen minute cities or the the migrant invasion, you see the videos of people getting hit with machetes in the street, it's like, my gosh, you know, but you know, you talked about this, know, that you're right as they push further with that agenda, it emboldens us to push back. Think for a lot of people, they're now getting to the point where they're saying, what what's it worth to sit on the sidelines? Like nothing is worth it. I can't let my kid grow up in a future that looks like that. I can't let my kid be convinced you know by some corrupted pedophile, you know, guidance counselor that they're actually a boy when they're a girl and I mean, people are really fighting back against that and, and that that really that that does give me a lot of hope.

Seth Holehouse: 18:55

And I think also a really important point is that, you know, when Trump got into office in 2016, I really believe that was that completely caught them off guard. Like I believed it was really in a lot of ways, it was an act of God. Like that was, it was a, it was a, you know, divine providence that allowed that to happen because I think that that derailed so many of the plans that they had. I think if Hillary would have gotten in, we would be already in World War Three, we'd be already in some sort of forced vaccine social credit system. And it gave us this window, but not only did it give us a window of four years of being able to wake people up and seeing that positivity that brought people together, but I also think that what it did is it screwed up their plans.

Seth Holehouse: 19:42

And it's easy to look at these people like Klaus Schwab or Xi Jinping or any of these these leaders that we see that represent, you know, a threat to, you know, our freedoms all over the world. It's easy to look at them and think, my gosh, they're so powerful, they're so diabolical, they have all the money, they have all the control, but I'm actually really working on reframing that in my head and thinking, you know what, they're a bunch of, like, they're a bunch of idiots. And and they're actually, they're losing this battle, and they're frantic, and they're scared, And they're worried about people like you and I exposing them. It's like we give them too much power by thinking that these all powerful people, but I think they're like, they've got bedpans next to their beds. They're just like frightened and then peeing in their beds because they're so scared of us.

Seth Holehouse: 20:26

Like that's, I think, much closer to what's really

Speaker 2: 20:29

happening. Yeah, absolutely. The big mistake to make is to think that these people are all powerful and that our fate is sealed and that they've got all the answers. The one thing that globalists seem to The one consistent thing they do that I sort of figure is they overreach, you know, they can't help themselves. They overreach all the time.

Speaker 2: 20:52

And of course, you know, there is that kind of Newtonian law of physics, you know, for every action there's a reaction. So the more they push us, they don't seem to have figured out, the more we'll push back them. And as you say, and you're dead right to say this, people like Schwab and these other tyrants all around the world, we're not scared of them. Problem is that the mainstream media is a big problem because they do big these people up and make them seem all powerful. And that's why the work that you do and so many others trying to provide people with different insights is so critical because, know, again, to my mind, so much of the things that have gone wrong wouldn't have gone wrong had it not been for the mainstream media.

Speaker 2: 21:42

But I will say one thing. You mentioned 2016, an absolutely epic year. But there was another thing that happened in 2016, as you may know, and that is not only did Donald Trump get in, which was a fantastic moment, but we in The UK voted to leave the European Union and become a sovereign nation once again. That also caught them out. So it was a double whammy.

Speaker 2: 22:06

The Brits did what they shouldn't do and voted to get out of the supranational tyranny, which is the EU, and you guys voted for Donald Trump. I was one of the few people who went on British TV back in 2015 and said, when asked the question, Who's going to win, Hillary or Trump? I said Trump. I was laughed at in the studio, I was mocked for saying it, and boy was revenge sweet.

Seth Holehouse: 22:30

Incredible, and good for you for that too. So, you know, so one

Speaker 2: 22:34

thing that I remember it.

Seth Holehouse: 22:36

Yeah. Oh, I just want to see, you know, from your perspective is because obviously we're seeing that they're they're they're pushing and there's a lot of people that are stepping forward that are just sitting on the sidelines that are just distracting themselves and wishing things could get back to normal before COVID and but you know, what, you know, in your opinion, what do you think is the tipping point? Because like here in America, for instance, we're seeing the especially with the trans agenda, and June is now Pride Month. So we're seeing, you know, all of these big stores, Target, you know, Bud Light, these big massive corporations that are aligning themselves with this with this really dark agenda, but we're seeing massive boycotts, you know, and it's really affecting, they're losing billions and billions of dollars because of it. And so I feel like that, you know, even like my wife was was in the local hair salon the other day, and she said, Gosh, Seth, that you know, all the women in the hair salon were having this huge conversation about how sick they were of the trans agenda.

Seth Holehouse: 23:33

And it was that was just a conversation with the older ladies at a hair salon. So it's reaching this point, but in your opinion, what do you think it's gonna take for more people to really say, look, this is absolutely enough and we're doing something about it?

Speaker 2: 23:52

Yeah. It's a great question, you know, because because there always is a tipping point, and and we know this from history. There's the thing that happens and it pushes everything over the edge. It's also conventionally never the thing that people expect. That's the thing as well.

Speaker 2: 24:09

You know, all the wonderful analysts in the world tend to miss these things because it just happens. So we've had, as you said, we've had the COVID tyranny, we've had the of maniacal war in Ukraine, which is potentially could cause a hot European war, depending on how that one goes. We have that. We've got the trans, the demonic trans thing. That's pushing, pushing, pushing, pushing people all the time towards the tipping point.

Speaker 2: 24:41

But the thing that gets them over the tipping point, I don't know what it is. I mean, if I did, I would truly be a prophet, but I'm not. I'm just someone who looks at this and thinks people are getting more and more edgy. Then also, you know, and I don't want to be too I try to be upbeat because I don't think people like despair. Despair may But by the same token, you've got to be realistic.

Speaker 2: 25:08

And my issue I have is that we saw here in The UK at any rate, whenever the government psychologists worked on the whole behavioral science behind how they should sell us to conform and comply to COVID. And that worked, Seth, in about 80% of the population went with that, and then there was a 20% that said no. But I think that rule remains 80%, twenty %, more or less. For example, if Joe Biden came out tomorrow and said, Hey, guess what? We've discovered a new virus.

Speaker 2: 25:42

It's really bad. It's even worse. So we're going have to start locking down states again. And that started to happen. I wonder how many people would sort of go, well, certainly all the democrat states would go like that, and here in The UK, the Liberal lawyers, they loved it.

Speaker 2: 25:59

That's the thing. I discovered that some people like being essentially made into serfs, slaves. They love it, and that worries me because those people will not recognize a tipping point, but then they do say in a revolution you only need 10%. So, you know, I'm working the percentage games here. I'm thinking there's about 20%, maybe you and me, that's probably enough, but the other 80% do sometimes make me wonder and think, how have you been so hypnotized, seduced by propaganda that you can't see that you've given up everything your ancestors fought for?

Speaker 2: 26:43

Do you know what That's one of the things that worries me.

Seth Holehouse: 26:46

It does for me too. And when I look around here in America, what's interesting is that, you know, obviously, I can't go poll a thousand Democrats and see where they're all at, but you can see different indicators coming out, such as the percentage of people that think that the twenty twenty election had issues. And it's actually now it's a large chunk of America. It's not just, you know, the 20% on the far right. It's I think more than half of the country now believes that there were some really, really bad things that happened during the twenty twenty election.

Seth Holehouse: 27:20

You look at the ratings of CNN, as an example, the the very liberal shows, they're plummeting, you know, they're just, collapsing, you know, Vice News, which was became a very liberal news outlet, went bankrupt and then I think it was, it was Soros that swept in and I think that bought them up basically, you know, imagine that. So you can see these different indicators that that there is a force. But even what another interesting point though is, you know, during the pandemic, the number of new liberals or democrats buying guns for the first time was skyrocketing. And so the people that, you know, originally would have been the ones saying, look, let's get rid of guns, you know, guns are evil, they're, you know, you don't need a machine gun to hunt deer, know, the different arguments that they make. You saw record numbers of those types of folks going and buying their first gun, like, first time, you know, new gun ownership was up to like record numbers during that period.

Seth Holehouse: 28:18

So if you look at all of these things collectively, and this is what gives me hope because it's, I think that in America, as an example, of course, you have that 20% or that portion of people that really see things for what's happening. But I think that here, in America, let's just pretend that Joe Biden came out and said, you know what, we're gonna be doing lockdowns again, you're gonna be forced to wear three masks, and there's gonna be, you know, vaccine passports. I think that they'd be lucky, they'd be very lucky to get half the people here to comply with it. Cause I think that, you know, in terms of that tipping point, I do think that the American people are starting to reach that tipping point. And you know, old saying, you know, fool me once, shame on, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me.

Seth Holehouse: 29:02

Right? So it's like fool me once. Okay, COVID, fool me once. A lot of people fell for it. They didn't see it coming.

Seth Holehouse: 29:08

But now, if they try it again, I think that so many less people are actually going to go along with it. And they're gonna have a really hard time, which is going to make them more desperate. It's gonna make them use more forceful actions, which is gonna push people back even further. So I really feel like they've lost their grip and that they are going to lose this war against us.

Speaker 2: 29:30

Yeah. Yeah. And you're right. I mean, a lot of people who I would have seen as liberal have moved much more onto our terrain. I've interviewed Doctor.

Speaker 2: 29:39

Naomi Wolf a couple of times now, and she was formerly I think she did some work in the Hillary Clinton campaign, but she's been awoken by all of this as well, and she's sort of come out all guns blazing. So it's the law of unintended consequences. As I say, I honestly feel they massively overdid it. And maybe they were trying to push us somewhere very fast because they'd planned it for so long with COVID, but they didn't get us there. And I don't think they'll ever get us there again on one of these virus stories.

Speaker 2: 30:14

But of course, like as an example, we're chatting before we came on air about lovely weather I'm getting here. And we've now had a weather, a serious weather alert for the weekend. It's going to be 30 degrees and everything's in red. Honestly, it's like, this is Armageddon, this is it. So, you know, the climate thing, which I think is possibly one of their next game plans, that could be the tipping point where they use things like, oh, well, you know, time of the planet, blah, blah, blah.

Speaker 2: 30:43

We need to bring in sort of travel lockdowns and stuff like that. I wonder will they try that because they're certainly hunting for the next big thing to further restrict us. Whether it's digital IDs, whatever it is, it is a constant warfare that we're in with these people, you know. But as I say, they overplayed their hands, so many have woken up, and I think our forces are gathering. And then there's the other equally important point.

Speaker 2: 31:10

We've got right on our side. I mean, it's worth just pointing that out for a second. We actually have right on our side because we're trying to, you know, do the right thing for our children, for our families, for our economies, for our businesses, all of that. We're trying to do the right thing. And so, and I believe that there's obviously all those personal virtues as well.

Seth Holehouse: 31:33

Yeah, that's a good point. I mean, it's, you think back of maybe, you know, look at a child that tells a white lie. They say, my dog ate my homework, or Where were you this afternoon? And say, I was, you know, at school studying after school. And the longer that lie gets goes on, then they ask the next question, get to lie again, the next question to lie again, And before you know it, it's built, there's this mountain of lies, right?

Seth Holehouse: 31:57

That there, and it becomes so difficult to go any which way because that entire mountain of lies will just collapse. And truth, I mean, just having truth on your side, like that's, that is one of the greatest weapons possible.

Speaker 2: 32:12

I think it's the best weapon of all. And to use your analogy, those people that were giving us the dog ate my homework story back in 2020, '20 '20 '1, '20 '20 '2, like where have they gone now? We've got the esteemed Doctor. Fauci. I mean, not to be seen.

Speaker 2: 32:28

We've got all the other sort of CDC top brass. We've got it here in The UK as well. All of the people that were selling the snake oil, literally, back then, they've gone. Not to be seen. And the only sad thing about it, of course, is that so many people believed them when some of us were saying, I think you need to think twice before you go down this route.

Speaker 2: 32:54

But if anything, I suppose the one thing about that is that verified that critical thinkers, Seth, and this is maybe the other big thing we have in common. You know, people say to me, well, how come you take the vaccines, you didn't do this out and the other? And I said, well, because I just look at every issue on its own merits, critical thinker does. So it's not a question of, will not, you know, Doctor. Fauci can tell me what he wants.

Speaker 2: 33:21

It doesn't mean that much. I'll do my research, thank you very much. And so us critical thinkers have come again. We've come from sort of left field and it's something that clearly it's a bond between us all because and things like faith and whatnot have been the bulwarks that kept us safe from the things that they've been trying to do on us. And in the future, we'll try to do on it as well.

Speaker 2: 33:47

So we've got those like iron foundations, and that's why I think we have survived. And I just wish there was more people like that, but it is what it is.

Seth Holehouse: 33:58

It is. I want to bring up a quote actually, because when we talk about the lies, it reminded me of a quote that I read. And I think that this quote was actually put in the beginning of the book, Behold a pale horse, if I remember correctly. And so I'll bring it up, this is incredible. So this quote is, One basic truth can be used as a foundation for a mountain of lies, and if we dig down deep enough in the mountain of lives and bring out that truth to set it on top of the mountain of lies, the entire mountain of lies will crumble under the weight of that one truth.

Seth Holehouse: 34:31

There is nothing more devastating to a structure of lies than the revelation of the truth upon which the structure of lies was built because the shock waves of that revelation of truth reverberate and continue to reverberate throughout the earth for generations to follow awakening even those who had no desire to be awakened to the truth. And I always thought that was such a powerful quote, because you're right, that's what we have on our side is we have truth. And that's why the, you what you and I are doing represents one of the greatest threats to them is because we're trying our best, and I'm not gonna say that either of us are prophets that only speak truth, but we're trying our best to find truth, right, and question our own, our own, you know, ideologies, our own notions, and get to the bottom of what's really happening and help share that truth to others in ways that they can understand it. So, think that, like that right there, like that one quote for me, that's what gives me hope is because we do have that truth and we're bringing it up and their mountain of lies is crumbling.

Speaker 2: 35:36

Well, absolutely. And that, you know, once you start to pull apart what the things that they construct, once these little narratives that they put in place are examined, and we've proven to be very good at this, it collapses then because all of a sudden you're, Oh, hang on a second, that can't quite be the case. And then, oh, that's definitely not the case. And, you know, so we have applied that methodology to the propaganda that's been absolutely spewed out, especially through mainstream media. Thank goodness for the alternative media.

Speaker 2: 36:14

Thanks to platforms like this. We actually can get thoughts out. And I always take the view, well, you know, if I put an argument out there and it's only my thoughts, and as you say, I mean, we can all get things wrong and get our facts wrong. That's just the way of the world. But if people, other critical thinkers look at it and go, yeah, that sounds about right, I think that's probably what I would do as well.

Speaker 2: 36:40

Because I always say to people, don't believe me, think for yourself, decide for yourself, you know, dig out the information too, and we've proven we're great at that. And that's why you're dead right, they fear us. I mean, I'm pretty convinced that I was taken off Twitter back in September 2020 by the British government who were very unhappy about vociferous and high profile critics of their mask wearing fear porn over COVID. There was a group of us that were taken off at that point. And why was that?

Speaker 2: 37:15

Because all we were doing was this, we were just saying, hang on, I don't think this makes a lot of sense, so maybe we need to think about it. Boom, taken down. But in a way, you know, that's a badge of honor because at least you sort of know, well, you were putting the truth out then, trying your best to keep doing it, and if government doesn't like it, I don't care, it doesn't bother me.

Seth Holehouse: 37:37

Exactly.

Speaker 2: 37:38

Although it did bother me because I was away from two years, I had a two year break, but then you come back twice as big and twice as bad. And you see, I honestly do think truth is an unstoppable force. I totally believe that. And so even though we get, you know, there's times when it can be tough and times when things don't work out the way that you do. I think by trying to get to that level of discernment, are providing a really good thing.

Speaker 2: 38:10

And I do think those good things ultimately, you know, right, will will prevail.

Seth Holehouse: 38:15

I absolutely agree. And so, in closing, if you can, know, say talk to the American patriots, people that are here that have this feeling that look, America is the last bastion of freedom as we're entering into the election cycle next year and with everything that's happening, you know, from the outside looking in, what would you tell the American patriot that's fighting to uphold the constitution and our amendments and our rights?

Speaker 2: 38:42

Well, I would say to the American patriot that you've got the rest of the awakened world with you. We are metaphorically at your side because we understand that you guys are absolutely in the frontline. Everything that's happening to the rest of us, and what we suffer from, like immigration issues, but not on the scale that you guys do with that southern border. Everything that is almost existentially important is located in The United States. So that's why, I mean, I know American patriots don't need lectures from Brits, but I think we much more in common.

Speaker 2: 39:21

And you should understand that so many of us proper patriots, I might say, look to you guys and we pray that everything will be right in 2024 and that the great wrong of 2020 is reversed and that above all, we get a patriot back into the White House.

Seth Holehouse: 39:44

Yes, that's at the pinnacle of the parish this nation. So David, I want to pull up your Twitter before we sign off here. So for folks, follow you, you're a riot, you're a lot of fun to follow. There you go. I will not submit, I will not comply.

Seth Holehouse: 40:00

There's the, there's a great, there's your badge of honor. So, your Twitter handle is at DVATW, and then your website is just DavidVance.net where people can find your work and your podcasts and your live shows and all your links to your social media profiles. I just, yeah, David, it's been such a pleasure chatting with you. It's like, I think that we could sit down around a campfire and talk for ten hours. You know, it's just an amazing time to live, isn't it?

Speaker 2: 40:32

It is. What a time to be alive, know, and what a joy that technology like this allows us to talk to each other and to all the people that watch and listen, you know, to us on a regular basis. It's fantastic and that's why as I say, despite all the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune, I believe that we will prevail.

Seth Holehouse: 40:54

I agree completely. Well, you, take care and God bless David.

Speaker 2: 40:58

Same to you.

Seth Holehouse: 41:00

Alright folks, I hope you enjoyed that interview. I've now got another amazing interview with Doctor. Kirk Elliott. We'll be diving into some recent things that Janet Yellen has said, which are kind of alarming, but also looking back at this article I found it's over ten years old that was honestly as if it was written yesterday. It's eerily prophetic about where the world's at right now.

Seth Holehouse: 41:21

So folks enjoy the show with Doctor. Kirk Elliott. So Kirk, it's so great to have you back on the show today, man. How are you doing?

Speaker 3: 41:30

I'm doing really well. How are you doing?

Seth Holehouse: 41:32

Actually, good. It's weird. As crazy as everything seems, like the whole world's like imploding, you know, there's this kind of peace that's come over me lately where I I maybe because I've just really put things into God's hands and instead of trying to control everything with my hands and it's like there's been some shift in me that I just feel I feel light. It's kind of it's kind of nice actually, because I've been pretty stressed the past couple of years.

Speaker 3: 42:04

Well, you know, there is, you know, when when you listen to God and you're you're following His ways and he gives us wisdom and peace and discernment and courage in in times of a storm. Right? It's like because so many of the people that I'm talking to every single day are just gripped and paralyzed, by the storm that we're seeing economically. But there is peace in the midst of it, and we have a solution, which is why I have a smile on my face, because there's a solution. But if I focused on the storm, I wouldn't I'd be full of anxiety, right?

Speaker 3: 42:40

But because there is a solution, you know, I do have a smile on my face. But here's where, you know, people who have been watching us for quite some time know that our solution has been for a while, you know, allocated into silver, right? And something broke my heart the last couple of weeks. And so, you know, like on on this show, we're we're talking about allocating into physical silver, physical gold, but really silver for right now. But but here's the thing.

Speaker 3: 43:10

Not all silver is equal. Not all gold is good gold. Not all dealers are good dealers, right? So threw out this fleece, and I'm gonna do it on this show too, on a different program that I was on. It's like, look, with silver being $24 an ounce, if you paid more than $30, you really got ripped off.

Speaker 3: 43:32

That, right? Because with bullion silver, maximize your ounces, minimize your cost. You shouldn't pay you should be in like the $29 range for an ounce of refinery round silver, which is bullion, which is what I recommend to everybody to maximize your ounces. Well, and I said, if you've and I'm letting people on your show too know, it's like, hey, if you've purchased silver or gold and it's at a higher price than that, send Ashley, our CEO, at ashleykirkleighphd dot com, a statement from the place that you bought it from. Because here's what I mean, yeah, I'm an emotional guy, right?

Speaker 3: 44:13

But I cried like literally 12 times over the last week seeing some of these statements because these are from big companies that we see on TV and on the Internet a lot, right, that are advertising. One client paid $71.15 an ounce for silver. Another one paid a hundred and $23 an ounce for silver. Some one paid through almost $3,700 an ounce for gold. Gold is less than $2,000 an ounce, like almost double.

Speaker 3: 44:43

Right? And then the icing on the cake. And but I'm seeing between 70 and $90 an ounce silver is almost like the norm on these portfolios. But the icing on the cake was $999 an ounce silver, and it wasn't even an old rare coin. It was like a 1996 proof Silver Eagle.

Speaker 3: 45:03

It's like, what? I mean,

Seth Holehouse: 45:05

just a thousand dollars an ounce?

Speaker 3: 45:08

An ounce for a modern day issue Silver Eagle coin that was in, MS 70 proof condition. It's like, here's the garbage behind that. If it's modern day issue, if it's done by a mint press, you know, modern day, it should be in perfect condition unless there's something wrong with the mint press. Right? So so whenever you have these advertising gimmicks but here's the sad part.

Speaker 3: 45:29

These people have been working their whole life hearing you and I talk about silver or gold and happened to hear it on another show and bought it from a place, it's like and then they totally got ripped off. The sad reality is staying in those things, they will never ever, ever, ever recover from that, like ever. So the only way to get out of it, and we're helping so many clients do this, is to liquidate those, take a loss, go into bullion that's going to go up dollar for dollar with the markets. And over time, as silver doubles, triples, or even more, that's how you can overcome that. But I'm looking at these, and it's like, I don't know how these people that are selling this garbage, which it is, can sleep at night.

Speaker 3: 46:13

I mean, it's it's disgusting to me. And the only time somebody should actually pay $999 an ounce for silver is if you're like a collector and you've got some really rare piece of of something. Right? I mean, you worked in the jewelry industry, there's sometimes if you know what you're doing and you are a collector, then, yeah, that would be fine. But I'm not a collector.

Speaker 3: 46:34

I'm an investor. Buy low, sell high, minimize your risk, maximize your return. At some point, you're going to sell that at some point down the road. So you can't ever make a profit on some of these things. If you're looking at a collectible as an investment, they don't operate the same.

Speaker 3: 46:54

And so I'm just I'm just mad because some of these are in people's IRAs accounts. That's not for a collection. Right? That's an investment. And so I just wanted to say that if you have overpaid and your gut is telling you I did something wrong here, just reach out to our firm, ashleykirkalliephd dot com, and send us your statement.

Speaker 3: 47:15

We'll see if there's anything we can do to help you get out of that because it truly is just breaking, breaking my heart. It's just I can't believe that some of these people got into this mess that they're not going to get out of real easily, and this is their life savings. And so anyways, I just wanted to open up with that because I've seen enough of it this week that it really bothers me, and I had to say something about it because I want to try to help as many people as I can get out of those positions.

Seth Holehouse: 47:47

And I know that you said you had you've actually helped a couple people undo the sales, like, basically, because they're that's, like, that's serious. It's funny because, know, I I worked in the jewelry industry for quite some time, and I saw the same thing happen all the time where on both ends, you know, I some, you know, I was involved in lot of that were buying jewelry from the public and I've had to have these these dealers coming and they they would have say like a hundred thousand dollar sapphire ring, right? That at a wholesale level is a hundred thousand. And they'd be bragging about how they bought it for $5,000 from some old lady that had no idea what it was. And to me, like that was just, it was robbery.

Seth Holehouse: 48:29

Like that was not how I how I did things. Like for me, it's like, I'd be like, okay, well, you know, it's worth this much and I'm gonna pay you this, you know, this much so I can still trade it and make a profit. But I just saw that where there's a lot of money involved, especially in a very unregulated industry, you know, no one's going out and buying an apartment that's only worth half a million and paying $5,000,000 for it, you know. But a lot of people will go out and pay $5,000,000 for half million dollars in jewelry or half million dollars in precious metals because it's high value assets that you can't go on to Zillow and do a price check on. So a good, a slick salesman, especially for an older person sitting at home watching the their favorite podcaster and he's saying, Hey, use this gold company.

Seth Holehouse: 49:13

And they're like, Oh, okay, I trust that company because that person trusts them. And this is why, and this is why I work with you and look, I mean, just being transparent, I get a lot of other companies that come to me and say, hey, work with us instead. And I refuse to, because and actually a lot of them, they pay a lot more. Like they really do because they're making a lot of money. So when they rip someone off like that, of course, they can give out fat commission checks.

Seth Holehouse: 49:37

And it's like, I just I won't touch that because for me, it's like, I gotta sleep at night. So anyway, well, thanks for sharing that. And so just for yeah. So just make an email at [e-mail]. That's I'll put her email actually in the description of the show.

Seth Holehouse: 49:54

That way people have it.

Speaker 3: 49:56

Oh, perfect. Yeah. Yep. Perfect.

Seth Holehouse: 49:58

So Kirk, there's something that I wanted to talk about. You know, there's a lot to always talk about. But so so Janet Yellen, I guess she just came out and we're recording this on on Tuesday, this is like within the last hour. And I want to bring this up because this this is gonna set the stage for our discussion. So Janet Yellen, everyone knows who she is, US Treasury Secretary has come out and said that one should expect a slow decline in the US dollar as the reserve currency.

Seth Holehouse: 50:25

So this is something that we've been talking about for some time and a lot of people, I felt they don't want to look at it, they don't want to talk about it, whether it's the media or even people that they might follow the story and then they say, oh, the stock market is doing pretty well and they forget about it because they think that oh, okay, well things are actually pretty normal, But I think it's just I wanna have a really sober discussion about this because, like, when you have Janet Yellen coming out and finally admitting something, it's like, yeah, it goes slow until it goes all at once. Right? It's like it starts off slow and then it happens all at once. And I came across this article, which was like mind bending for a few different reasons, but so let me pull this up because this is this is just significant. Okay.

Seth Holehouse: 51:16

Okay. So this is an article I'll bring up. I'm gonna read a little bit. So I apologize if my reading isn't fantastic, but I'll do my best. Okay.

Seth Holehouse: 51:23

So this is an article that came out in 02/2012. And it's titled The Media Won't Touch This Story About the End of the US Dollar. Now and there's a reason why I'm bringing this up because it really helps us to understand where we're at today. So this is back in 02/2012. So I'll read a little bit and this is like this could have been written today, like it's eerie actually.

Seth Holehouse: 51:45

So I'll read a few parts I've highlighted. So the author says, there's a major shift underway, one the US mainstream media has left largely untouched, even though it will send The US into an economic maelstrom and dramatically reduce the country's importance in the world, the demise of the US dollar as a world reserve currency. For decades, the US dollar has been absolutely dominant in international trade, especially in the oil markets. This role has created immense demand for US dollars and that international demand constitutes a huge part of the dollar's valuation. Not only did the global currency role add massive value to the dollar, it also created it almost for US Treasuries as countries around the world sought to maintain stores of petrodollars.

Seth Holehouse: 52:31

The availability in all this credit denominated in a dollar supported by nothing less than the entirety of global trade enabled the American federal government to borrow without limit and spend with abandon. The dominance of the US dollar, sorry, dollar, the dominance the dollar gave The United States incredible power influence around the world, but the times they are changing as the world's emerging economies gain ever more prominence, The U. S. Is losing hold of its position as the world's superpower. Many on the long listed nations that dislike America are pondering ways to reduce American influence in their affairs, ditching the dollars a very good start.

Seth Holehouse: 53:07

Over the past few years, China and other emerging powers such as Russia have been quietly making agreements to move away from the US dollar and international trade. Several major oil producing nations have begun selling oil and currencies other than the dollar and both the United Nations and the IMF have issued reports arguing for the need to create a new global reserve currency independent of the dollar. So I'll jump down a little bit here and read this section. So as nations continue to pursue increased bilateral trade, at some point they will decide that involving US dollars in every transaction is unnecessary and expensive and they will ditch the dollar. So it says, The value of the US dollars is a key paragraph here, the value of the US dollar is based on this role as the conduit for global trade.

Seth Holehouse: 53:54

If that role vanishes much of the value in the dollar will evaporate Massive inflation, high interest rates, and substantial increases in the cost of food, clothing, and gasoline will make the 2,008 look like nothing more than a bump in the road. This will be a crater. The government will be unable to finance its debts. The house of cards built on the assumption that the world would rely on the US dollar forever will come tumbling down. It's a scary proposition, but don't bury your head in the sand because countries around the world are already starting to ditch the dollar.

Seth Holehouse: 54:25

Russia and China are leading the charge. More than a year ago, the two nations made good on talks to move away from the dollar. Similarly, a new agreement among the BRICS nations promotes the use of their national currencies when trading instead of the US dollar. So there's just there's there's a I definitely want to hear your thoughts on this, Kirk, but I have a few comments just based on a few pair particular paragraphs. So, you know, for one, it's like if we're looking at this and we're saying, okay, they saw this was coming and there's these early warnings, and it's like, is it the cart before the horse?

Seth Holehouse: 54:58

Is it that everyone looks around and says, okay, the dollar has has bottomed out. It's no longer the reserve currency because, you know, you're watching specifically or is it the the indicators that you're seeing? And so, like right here, and again, this is ten years ago, they're saying that if the the the roll vanishes, if the dollar loses that world reserve currency status, much of the value will evaporate. So they're saying at that time, there's gonna be massive inflation, high interest rates, and substantial increases in the cost of food, clothing, and gasoline. So it's like, if you look at that as one example, it's like ten years ago, or say twelve years ago when this was written, you know, we weren't experiencing massive inflation.

Seth Holehouse: 55:41

We weren't experiencing high interest rates. We were experiencing, you know, crazy prices of food. And while they've blamed a lot of these things on the Ukraine war or something else, like to me, kind of pulling this together, it's like what they've been warning about, like, it's here. Like, it's on our doorstep. And it's easy to say, Well, yeah, they've always been warning about that.

Seth Holehouse: 56:04

And that was ten, you know, over ten years ago, and it's the same old song and dance, the dollar is collapsing. Well, it's almost like looking back ten years ago and saying, you know, Alex Jones was warning us about a pandemic and forced, you know, jabs, right? You can look back at that and say, well, that was ten years ago. He's always saying that or you look at and say, oh my gosh, he was right. How did he know what was coming?

Seth Holehouse: 56:29

And I feel like that's more the case when we look back at this and say, oh my gosh, like people have been warning about this and while the timing may not have been immediate, like everything that they're talking about is now coming to pass. And so I really, I'd love to hear your thoughts on that. And sorry for kind of hogging the line for that moment, I really wanted to frame that this discussion.

Speaker 3: 56:54

No, it's perfect because some of the stuff is not prophetic, right? It's just math. Right? So as you start to see okay. And how do I put it into historical context?

Speaker 3: 57:07

Every country that's had a world reserve currency has had a lifespan. Right? Throughout throughout history, we're not the first one. The US dollar is not the first world reserve currency. Before us, it was The United Kingdom.

Speaker 3: 57:20

Before The United Kingdom, it was like Portugal and Spain, and you had you had, Greece in there and the Dutch currency. Right? So so but the average lifespan or the range goes from forty five years to a hundred and ten years. But why? Why?

Speaker 3: 57:35

Why do they span out? Well, it's because to produce enough currency to actually fund all oil settlements like with the petrodollar or all international settlements of anything between countries globally, you have to print more than what you need for domestic use. Well, over time, people say, wait a second, America. You print way too many dollars. You're flooding the world with this stuff.

Speaker 3: 57:58

You're creating way too much debt. We gotta have another reserve currency. You squandered your time in the sun. And if I were a policymaker in America, I would say, wait a second. We had to.

Speaker 3: 58:09

Right? It's just we have to we have to print more than what we need. That's what the world's reserve currency is. But during that time, you've got built in demand for your currency so you can amass, like we did, $32,000,000,000,000 worth of debt. You can fund all these expenditures.

Speaker 3: 58:25

You can have Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, women, infant, children programs, food stamps. You can fund all these stimulus programs and earmark things and everything else. Right? And you still have built in demand for the currency. Well, once that changes because the rest of the world says flooded the market with it, we're going to go to somewhere else.

Speaker 3: 58:45

You know, it just happens. Right? I'm sure that The United Kingdom didn't like it when the British pound sterling was no longer the world's reserve currency because then they had to print with discretion or else you're no different than Venezuela, Argentina, Cyprus, Greece. Right? Or prior to them, you know, the the the Spanish currency or the or the Dutch guilder.

Speaker 3: 59:07

Right. It's like it just happens. And so we happen to be the generation that's alive while this is happening. So during this time, we're amassing debt. Our debt grew greater than our GDP, so we now have more debt than we have gross domestic product 100% of the time throughout history.

Speaker 3: 59:26

And I'd like to look back because I can't remember off the top of my head. I bet our debt was approaching gross domestic product numbers when that article was written, because that's a for sure sign. A % of the time, like not even a part, a % of the time when that happens, country's currency ceases to exist or it fails. Right? So so that's not good odds to overcome.

Speaker 3: 59:50

So whoever was writing that new history and knew what happens to countries when their debt surpasses their GDP levels, and we did. We're now at 120. It's like, we went way past it. Right? There's no way that we can economically

Seth Holehouse: 01:00:07

Here you go. Here's a debt versus GDP chart for the past since 1970. So when that article was written, yeah, February, it was just spiking, right, it was just like actually when that article was written, it was just after a massive spike coming after 02/2008.

Speaker 3: 01:00:28

So what was it at around there when that article was written? Was it close to 100?

Seth Holehouse: 01:00:33

Almost exactly at 100.

Speaker 3: 01:00:36

Yeah. See, the person who wrote that article knew understood history, Right? And that's probably how they knew. It wasn't that they were being prophetic. They just knew that at some point it becomes unsustainable to have a debt that's greater than GDP because there's not gonna be enough tax revenue to pay it off.

Speaker 3: 01:00:52

So this is why countries fail, right, economically, and and we're we're no different. But we've now surpassed that so far that it's that it's a point of arrogance or pride to think our our dollar is never gonna go away as a reserve currency. Right? This is what politicians would think, but you can't have that when you've you've amassed the amount of debt that we have globally.

Seth Holehouse: 01:01:16

Exactly. Exactly. And what's also interesting, because I want pull up a different article that you had sent me, because so that article was honing I read it's funny because it was like I think that in one of the earlier shows I was talking and saying that China and Russia are leading the charge. Think actually in one of my old ads I used to run it was like that exact, you know, it was like the world is going through de dollarization and China and Russia are leading the charge. It was like the exact verbatim, which is just kind of mind blowing, but you you see that in these in the article in a lot of our discussions is it's these BRICS characters that are at the forefront of that.

Seth Holehouse: 01:01:52

Like they're the ones that are building this new system. They're the ones that are leading the charge and really it is China and Russia, you know, kind of at the head of leading bricks away from the US dollar, but what's interesting is that you shared this article with me, I'll pull up right here, which was the one about Humpty Dumpty. But then within that article, though, you have this chart, which is showing the largest reported gold buyers in tons from 2010 to 2022. So tell us about what we're seeing here.

Speaker 3: 01:02:24

So you look at that, that's a twelve year span, and look at the people that are buying or the countries that are buying gold. You've got Russia at 1,400 tons. You got China at almost a thousand tons. You've got Turkey in there. You've got Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, right?

Speaker 3: 01:02:43

India. Where on that list, Seth, is is Germany or The United Kingdom or America even. It's like, oh.

Seth Holehouse: 01:02:55

What's crazy is

Speaker 3: 01:02:56

that if

Seth Holehouse: 01:02:57

I look at it, AC bricks, okay, Brazil, check, Russia, check, India, check, China, check, And where's South Africa? Oh, yeah. South Africa doesn't need to buy gold because they're mining all the gold, right? Because they're sitting kinds of So it's like, gosh, this was even again, this this was from 02/2010 to 2022. The article came out in 2012.

Seth Holehouse: 01:03:21

It's like you you can see it's like everything is happening right in front of us. And yeah, I think a lot of people, especially when the stock market's doing well, it's just so easy for folks to be like, oh, the dollar's fine, the economy is going well, and the CPI numbers weren't quite as bad as they thought they were going to. But there's a there's a storm brewing and it's the the indicators are all over the place.

Speaker 3: 01:03:45

They're they're all over the place. And what's interesting about that chart is Germany, United Kingdom, United States, Canada, Japan, none of the Western economies are on that list at all. We're too proud and arrogant about central bank digital currency and how they're going to use Western banking stuff to fix this. No, they are not, which is the BRICS nations are realizing that. And I'm not saying that the BRICS nations are great or fantastic or anything like that.

Speaker 3: 01:04:14

I'm just saying because central bank digital currency, they're issuing that too, right? Are. But they're using gold as the carrot to draw people in saying, our CBDC is better than everybody else's. You should use going to ours. Because once you go into that system, you're never coming out.

Speaker 3: 01:04:31

But here's where there's something interesting that's starting to happen. Central bank digital currency is not a guarantee that it's actually going to gain public acceptance. Right? Just because 10 nations around the world are now moving headlong into central bank digital currency. Here in America by July, the FedNow app will be released to all banks, small, medium, and large, not just the four big money center banks that are beta testing it.

Speaker 3: 01:04:59

So we're gonna be headlong into that. But but a a poll just last weekend showed that two at a at a rate of two to one, Americans do not want a digital Federal Reserve currency that can track all of your Two to one. So we're starting to see that now. And then you see what happened two weeks ago. DeSantis in Florida passed a bill that said, we're not going to accept CBDCs in Florida at all.

Speaker 3: 01:05:30

Not an allowable mechanism for transactions. And you've got countries like it was either Hong Kong or Singapore basically telling China, we are not going to accept BRICS nation's CBDCs. Right? So there's all of a sudden this grassroots level support of opposition towards central bank digital currency because it's a complete loss of freedom. So here's what I believe is going to happen.

Speaker 3: 01:05:58

The BRICS nations in that chart showed us what are they doing. They're amassing gold. Don't listen to what they say. Look at what they do. Right?

Speaker 3: 01:06:07

Because they're going to say, oh, gold and silver, it stinks. It's ancient relic. You want to buy a central bank digital currency. But yet at the same time, they're amassing mountains, not ounces, not pounds, not tons, but thousands of tons of gold. Right?

Speaker 3: 01:06:20

It's a lot. So and when they do that, they're telling us what they're projecting is, a, we're gonna see problems at central bank digital currency, and we want to backstop it. Or b, they realize the only way to get people to accept it is by giving them something that they want that there's accountability and transparency for, which would which would be gold. Right? And the arrogance of the Western nations not even having any of it is actually, I think, a foreshadowing of problems to come as well, being that the central bank, as we know it, the Federal Reserve, it's hitting the skids.

Speaker 3: 01:06:58

And we're seeing all of the spending. We're seeing America's debt surpass their GDP. We've got some serious problems. But still, people kind of have faith and confidence in The US banking system. Right?

Speaker 3: 01:07:13

Well, I think that's about to fade. You and I had talked about Weiss research, right, about how the 4,243 banks that are that are poised for for destruction, Martin Weiss this week sounded like one of us. Right? In an article that that they wrote about there's there's problems coming. There's a fracturing of the system that's happening.

Speaker 3: 01:07:40

More banks are gonna fail. Central bank digital currencies are coming. And what what's interesting about this article is he was pointing out what happens when banks start to fail and governments start to go rogue with their policies and they can't fix it. Executive orders. So in the past, you've seen an executive order that confiscated gold.

Speaker 3: 01:08:02

You saw an executive order that caused bail ins in the Dodd Frank bill. You've seen you saw executive order that that got rid of closed the gold window during Nixon and created the petrodollar. Right? So so during times of crisis, you're gonna see executive orders that start to come, that start to erode our freedoms, take away our financial freedoms, take away our personal freedoms, take away our religious freedoms. And we're heading into that again because nobody at the government level knows what to do to fix it.

Speaker 3: 01:08:33

But part of me thinks that they don't want to fix it. So that previous article that we were talking about, the Humpty Dumpty one where we where it talked about the number of amount of gold, what was the headline of that article? It's like that word at word at crossing point, save the system or the currency. See, this is so true, and I don't believe that they want to save the US dollar. So therefore, they want to save the system, but they're not gonna have this current system that we have now.

Speaker 3: 01:09:01

They're ushering in a new system. But you can't have both because the US dollar is the world's reserve currency. So you save the dollar, you don't get a new system. You let the dollar go the way of the Dodoburg, you can get a new system. This is what they want with central bank digital currency.

Speaker 3: 01:09:17

The two of those things, saving the system and the dollar, cannot coexist together. So you look at the the rulers and the decision makers globally, the World Economic Forum, the Bank of International Settlements, the World Bank, the IMF. What do they want? They want a new global system where they're in control. So therefore, I do think that the dollar is dying, which goes back to that original article that you started with that said debt to GDP.

Speaker 3: 01:09:45

Or they didn't say that, but that's the rationale behind it. I'm convinced of it, has gotten too far. The dollar is going to die. They're going to usher in a new system. I mean, it doesn't take rocket science once you understand how economics and politics and finance all intertwine and things can actually be be be understood and almost foretold.

Speaker 3: 01:10:07

And this is why we're shouting it from the rooftops, allocate into silver because that too can be foretold with everything that's happening financially, globally, politically, reserve currency status going away, countries leaving the petrodollar system, all that political instability and wars and rumors of wars and everything that's happening, gold and silver will thrive where this where normal traditional assets will come sinking down to earth.

Seth Holehouse: 01:10:35

Yeah. It's just it's interesting seeing all these things here. And sometimes that's the only way to find to form a picture of something is by putting everything together and looking at it collectively. And so, as I mentioned before, I'll put Ashley's, who's your CEO, I'll put her email in the description to the show. So folks that if you look at, if they've, if you've made a purchase of gold and silver recently, even a year, two years ago, whatever, and you want, you know, an independent eye looking at it.

Seth Holehouse: 01:11:05

I mean, I know that you know, Kirk your philosophy is very just straight and narrow. Just, you know, okay, silver is silver. There's a small premium that is always gonna be on silver, but anything beyond that is highway robbery. Unless again, you're some collector of rare coins, which I hope you're not investing in rare coins, you know, might as well go invest in rare cars or rare paintings and hope it turns out, right? So there's that also, you know, folks do want to learn more, goldwithseth.com.

Seth Holehouse: 01:11:32

They can also fill the form out there and say, Hey, I want to talk to you about some purchases I've made. And if they just want to call and set up an appointment or whatever, what's the best number to reach you at or your team?

Speaker 3: 01:11:44

Yeah, call [phone]. That's actually my personal cell. If you want to if you can't get in touch with Ashley, then you can actually text me those forms too. But to set up an appointment to reach one of our people, [phone]. That's [phone].

Speaker 3: 01:12:09

Get on our calendar, talk to one of our advisors, and you know, we'll dig deep into what you want to do. Listen to your goals, your dreams, your aspirations, your fears, and map out a strategy for success moving forward that can get you into the right place at the right time.

Seth Holehouse: 01:12:25

Great. Well, Kirk, thanks again, man, for coming on. It's always good to have you, and, I'll see you next week, man. Take care.

Speaker 3: 01:12:32

It's my pleasure. We'll talk to you soon.

Seth Holehouse: 01:12:34

Alright.