That’s What She Said – with Brenton Sconce creator of Office Recovery

In this episode of Sober Banter, Rachel is joined by Brenton Sconce—the meme genius behind @OfficeRecovery, a former pastor, and a fierce sober ally. Brenton opens up about his path to sobriety, beginning with rehab in July 2022 and evolving through deep aftercare, spiritual reflection, and a whole lot of humor.

He talks candidly about the moment he finally admitted he was an alcoholic, how the pressures of ministry shaped his addiction, and how The Office went from background comfort to a powerful language of recovery and connection.

We also dig into his latest mission: The Bloomsday Bear Crawl, a year-long challenge and fundraiser to provide scholarships for those seeking aftercare support in recovery.

00:00 – Introduction and Guest Intro
01:39 – Brenton’s Sobriety Journey
02:47 – The Moment of Clarity
05:03 – Challenges and Support in Recovery
15:14 – Humor in Recovery
22:27 – Faith and Community in Sobriety
26:51 – The Importance of Aftercare in Recovery
32:51 – Advice for Those Struggling with Addiction
35:06 – Connecting and Supporting the Recovery Community
41:26 – Check out the Bloomsday Bear Crawl

🔗 Connect with Brenton / Office Recovery
📸 Instagram – @OfficeRecovery
https://www.instagram.com/officerecovery

🌐 Linktree – All Brenton's Links in One Place
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🐻 The Bloomsday Bear Crawl on Instagram
https://www.instagram.com/thebloomsdaybearcrawl

📘 The Bloomsday Bear Crawl on Facebook
https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61560276862353

🌍 Linktree – Support the Bloomsday Bear Crawl
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• (00:00) - – Introduction and Guest Intro
• (01:39) - – Brenton’s Sobriety Journey
• (02:47) - – The Moment of Clarity
• (05:03) - – Challenges and Support in Recovery
• (15:14) - – Humor in Recovery
• (22:27) - – Faith and Community in Sobriety
• (26:51) - – The Importance of Aftercare in Recovery
• (32:51) - – Advice for Those Struggling with Addiction
• (35:06) - – Connecting and Supporting the Recovery Community
• (41:26) - – Check out the Bloomsday Bear Crawl

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Creators and Guests

Host

Rachel Casey

Co-founder and host of Sober Banter.

What is Sober Banter?

Sober Banter, a podcast about life without alcohol, is real, relatable, and never boring. Hosts Rachel and Colin share honest conversations about sobriety with humor, heart, and a touch of chaos.

Rachel Casey (00:00:06):
Welcome to Sober Banter.

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I am posting solo, but I am not solo today.

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I have a guest and I'm pretty excited because I really like his Instagram account.

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This is the voice behind,

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well,

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technically you have two,

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but the main one that I think we connected off of is the office recovery.

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And

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There's so much more to you than just like who's running this office recovery

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account on Instagram.

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Not only are you Brenton,

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a former pastor,

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the voice of the office recovery and passionate advocate for compassionate

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leadership,

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as well as faith,

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humor,

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and healing to help others.

Rachel Casey (00:00:46):
So welcome to the show.

Brenton Sconce (00:00:48):
Thank you.

Brenton Sconce (00:00:48):
Thank you so much for having me.

Brenton Sconce (00:00:50):
This is awesome.

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One opportunity.

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Absolute honor.

Rachel Casey (00:00:53):
Oh, well, thank you.

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I still feel so new in the podcasting world,

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but when I was reading some,

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some of the things about you,

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I'm like,

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you have such a unique,

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interesting story and you seem very parallel till Colin and I are just all about

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the humor.

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And I think that's what office is one of our, and always sunny the office.

Rachel Casey (00:01:13):
Uh, I mean, we can re watch those literally every single day and not get bored of the reruns.

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Yeah.

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And it's that or Arrested Development.

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That's another one on our list.

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And when we got sober, we were so scared it was going to be boring.

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And it's not.

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It's really, really not.

Brenton Sconce (00:01:30):
No, you catch like all the little nuances that you didn't even catch before.

Rachel Casey (00:01:33):
I know.

Rachel Casey (00:01:35):
In the office, there's not a lot of drinking either.

Rachel Casey (00:01:37):
So some of the shows like Always Sunny, it's based in a bar.

Rachel Casey (00:01:40):
Right.

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But anyways,

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I will let you kind of introduce yourself and how you got here and what got you

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sober and your sobriety date and whatnot.

Rachel Casey (00:01:48):
It was in July of 22 is what I know.

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And I'll let you take it from there.

Brenton Sconce (00:01:51):
Yeah, absolutely.

Brenton Sconce (00:01:52):
So yeah, my name is Brenton and my sober date is July 24th of 22.

Brenton Sconce (00:01:59):
My journey to sobriety was through the rehab treatment center route.

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So that's kind of the direction that I started out with.

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I did detox and residential at a treatment center in my hometown here.

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And then following that,

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I did some intensive outpatient for 12 weeks and then another outpatient stent for

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90 days.

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And at the end of that 90 days, the treatment center that I went to

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said, well, you're basically an alumni now.

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You can just come back whenever you'd like and attend classes and group sessions

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and things like that.

Brenton Sconce (00:02:28):
So I did that for another probably three or four months.

Brenton Sconce (00:02:31):
So all in all, my experience with the treatment center was just shy of a full year.

Rachel Casey (00:02:37):
I do want to ask when you say hometown, like where are what state are you in?

Rachel Casey (00:02:41):
I hadn't even asked that.

Brenton Sconce (00:02:42):
Oh, yeah.

Brenton Sconce (00:02:43):
I'm in Washington.

Brenton Sconce (00:02:44):
Yeah.

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Eastern Washington.

Brenton Sconce (00:02:45):
So that's kind of how my sobriety journey started.

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And there's obviously a whole bunch of stuff that leads up to getting me to a point

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where I'm like,

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I need help.

Brenton Sconce (00:02:53):
And that's very much how my my story was.

Brenton Sconce (00:02:55):
I was I got to a point where there was a moment of clarity where I literally texted

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my wife and said,

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I think I'm an alcoholic.

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And I need help.

Brenton Sconce (00:03:04):
And that's all I said.

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And I was able to connect with a friend who had just gotten out of treatment

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himself about six months prior.

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And so he was able to kind of connect me with the treatment center here.

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And that was a Saturday morning.

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And by Monday morning,

Brenton Sconce (00:03:20):
I was in detox and residential and was there for two and a half,

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three weeks.

Brenton Sconce (00:03:25):
So that's kind of how it started.

Brenton Sconce (00:03:28):
The office recovery started about a year after that.

Rachel Casey (00:03:32):
Yeah.

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It takes time.

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Like things like this,

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we didn't start till three years sober,

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you know,

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cause it's,

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of course we went to meetings and talked about it with other people,

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but like on an online platform,

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you're still,

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there is a little scare of like,

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Whoa,

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what am I,

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you know,

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just putting now I should back up.

Rachel Casey (00:03:49):
I have been online from pretty much like month one and on, but how did you, I I'm very curious.

Rachel Casey (00:03:55):
How did you feel texting that?

Rachel Casey (00:03:57):
Like saying to your wife, like, I think I'm an alcoholic, you know, um,

Rachel Casey (00:04:02):
That would have hit me like bricks.

Brenton Sconce (00:04:04):
Yeah.

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Yeah.

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And I mean, obviously, we've we've talked about it all.

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And she had obviously suspicions.

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And there's a lot of stuff going on there that she was like, OK, something's off.

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Something's not right.

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And I mean,

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I was at the point where there's a lot of medical stuff going on that I was trying

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to just explain away.

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And there was a lot of hiding, a lot of deception, things like that going on.

Brenton Sconce (00:04:24):
And that's really where I started to see a turn in myself where I see all those

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behavioral changes that just weren't me like and and I couldn't stop.

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And so I knew I needed external intervention and I knew I needed to get somewhere.

Brenton Sconce (00:04:40):
That would,

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you know,

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essentially force me into sobriety because I wouldn't have been able to stop on my

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own.

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And sending the text, you know, it.

Rachel Casey (00:04:49):
I cried the first time I said I was alcoholic.

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Like, I mean, and not like a big like sob.

Rachel Casey (00:04:54):
It was at a meeting and you introduced yourself and I'm like, my name's Rachel.

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And it was my second meeting.

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The first one, they didn't go around the room.

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And like, I will never forget it.

Rachel Casey (00:05:03):
I can tell you what chair, where I was in the room.

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And it just, it hit hard.

Brenton Sconce (00:05:08):
Yeah.

Brenton Sconce (00:05:08):
Yeah.

Brenton Sconce (00:05:09):
Yeah, being able to kind of say it and admit it was definitely a huge thing.

Brenton Sconce (00:05:12):
I mean, at the time, I mean, when I texted it, you know, I wasn't sober when I texted it.

Rachel Casey (00:05:18):
I was going to ask.

Rachel Casey (00:05:19):
I'm like, yeah, that's usually the I called for help when I was drunk, too.

Rachel Casey (00:05:23):
So, I mean, you know, it's like you wake up and you're like, that was I don't know.

Rachel Casey (00:05:27):
But now you've the cards are there.

Rachel Casey (00:05:29):
Yeah.

Brenton Sconce (00:05:30):
Yeah,

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and I had,

Brenton Sconce (00:05:31):
I mean,

Brenton Sconce (00:05:31):
I texted that and we had started the ball rolling so quickly to find a place for me

Brenton Sconce (00:05:36):
and get me in a spot that by the time,

Brenton Sconce (00:05:40):
you know,

Brenton Sconce (00:05:40):
I really sobered up,

Brenton Sconce (00:05:41):
like the train was leaving the station and I was like,

Brenton Sconce (00:05:44):
all right,

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I'm in for this thing.

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And,

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you know,

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granted,

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once I was in detox and stuff,

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there was a couple of days right at the beginning where I was like,

Brenton Sconce (00:05:52):
oh,

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I don't need this.

Brenton Sconce (00:05:53):
You know,

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I got this under control and,

Brenton Sconce (00:05:55):
you know,

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was going to AMA and just leave the treatment center.

Brenton Sconce (00:05:58):
And I, you know, thankfully I didn't.

Brenton Sconce (00:06:00):
Yeah.

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And then it was absolutely life changing for me, that whole experience.

Brenton Sconce (00:06:03):
But yeah,

Brenton Sconce (00:06:04):
texting the message,

Brenton Sconce (00:06:07):
I'm an alcoholic and I need help,

Brenton Sconce (00:06:08):
was very much just a moment of clarity and

Brenton Sconce (00:06:11):
there's kind of a radical vulnerability in it that I didn't notice at the time,

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but it,

Brenton Sconce (00:06:17):
it was absolutely just a grace that I,

Brenton Sconce (00:06:20):
I was able to text that and,

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and send it.

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Cause that's what got everything started.

Rachel Casey (00:06:24):
Yeah, no.

Rachel Casey (00:06:25):
And I think with recovery and in your experience,

Rachel Casey (00:06:28):
you can share,

Rachel Casey (00:06:28):
I think going,

Rachel Casey (00:06:30):
jumping on it is what you should do.

Rachel Casey (00:06:33):
If someone is calling and asking for help with addiction, that window can be so small that you,

Rachel Casey (00:06:41):
even like you said a few days in you're like i don't know if i need this like this

Rachel Casey (00:06:45):
is this is kind of crazy and i think had mine not moved as fast as it did i could

Rachel Casey (00:06:50):
have probably talked myself out of it and been like because i wasn't a rock bottom

Rachel Casey (00:06:54):
i didn't lose i wasn't homeless i wasn't i mean internally 100 rock bottom like i

Rachel Casey (00:07:00):
do not ever want to go back there never but if you looked at my life like

Rachel Casey (00:07:06):
living wise yeah i hadn't like i still had my my son i was still married have a

Rachel Casey (00:07:11):
house car the things that don't you know but that's what people like look at

Rachel Casey (00:07:16):
they're like well if i'm able to do this then i might not have a problem and so i

Rachel Casey (00:07:21):
think getting as quickly as you can to like

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get help.

Rachel Casey (00:07:24):
Do you think that seeing your friend that six months prior had gotten help

Rachel Casey (00:07:29):
influenced anything that that was kind of in the back of your mind of like,

Brenton Sconce (00:07:33):
you know,

Brenton Sconce (00:07:33):
it,

Brenton Sconce (00:07:34):
it may have been,

Brenton Sconce (00:07:35):
I just remember,

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you know,

Brenton Sconce (00:07:37):
at the time I was at a point where like,

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You know,

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in recovery,

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they'll talk about how essentially,

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you know,

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the addiction gets to such a level that the addict almost wishes they were caught.

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Like they just, they need a way out and they don't know how to get a way out.

Brenton Sconce (00:07:52):
And like I say to,

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you know,

Brenton Sconce (00:07:54):
the folks that I talk to,

Brenton Sconce (00:07:55):
when it comes to that moment of clarity,

Brenton Sconce (00:07:57):
like,

Brenton Sconce (00:07:57):
Like you just said,

Brenton Sconce (00:07:58):
you've got to act on it in that moment because as soon as that passes,

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there's no guarantee that you get another one.

Brenton Sconce (00:08:04):
And we've heard far too many stories that have ended tragically because folks

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haven't acted in that moment of clarity.

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And so I always remind folks that if...

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If you have even just the faintest like inkling that there's a problem or that

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there's something or you get this glimpse like for for me,

Brenton Sconce (00:08:21):
I got this glimpse of really of what was to come of like what my life is going to

Brenton Sconce (00:08:26):
be like if I keep going down this road.

Brenton Sconce (00:08:28):
And it's going to you know,

Brenton Sconce (00:08:29):
it's going to be the loss of everything that I really,

Brenton Sconce (00:08:31):
really,

Brenton Sconce (00:08:32):
truly,

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you know,

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deep down loved.

Brenton Sconce (00:08:34):
And I think it was just the glimpse of that that kind of shook me enough to send that text.

Brenton Sconce (00:08:40):
But yeah,

Brenton Sconce (00:08:41):
so the moment of clarity,

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you act on it,

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and then you just kind of go from there and submit to whatever's happening.

Brenton Sconce (00:08:49):
Yeah.

Rachel Casey (00:08:50):
Yeah.

Rachel Casey (00:08:50):
And kind of like the acceptance is the hardest probably part.

Rachel Casey (00:08:54):
And then it's the rebuilding from there.

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Yeah.

Rachel Casey (00:08:57):
So you were a pastor or are, I don't know.

Rachel Casey (00:09:02):
I saw that you're getting your MBA in leadership, which is awesome.

Rachel Casey (00:09:06):
I think people in recovery just are great leaders because...

Rachel Casey (00:09:11):
we have been to the low of lows and like being able seeing someone walk in on day

Rachel Casey (00:09:18):
one and then seeing them at one year like it is the most rewarding experience like

Rachel Casey (00:09:25):
you know not that it's just really cool so leadership is it's kind of like doing

Rachel Casey (00:09:30):
something you love because encouraging others so how did you kind of go from

Rachel Casey (00:09:36):
Pastor, was that pre-sobriety?

Rachel Casey (00:09:40):
And then talk about where your timeline kind of went with that.

Rachel Casey (00:09:43):
You look really young for pastor.

Brenton Sconce (00:09:47):
Yeah, I was a young pastor.

Brenton Sconce (00:09:48):
So yeah, it was pre-sobriety.

Brenton Sconce (00:09:49):
It was pre really the giant jump into my active addiction.

Brenton Sconce (00:09:53):
But the pastoral ministry that I was a part of

Brenton Sconce (00:09:57):
I led a church just north of Seattle for several years.

Brenton Sconce (00:10:01):
And the ending of that,

Brenton Sconce (00:10:05):
although it was my decision to step away from that position,

Brenton Sconce (00:10:09):
the ending of that was what really brought all of the internal struggle that I had

Brenton Sconce (00:10:14):
been suppressing really to the forefront.

Brenton Sconce (00:10:18):
And for whatever reason, that was kind of the cataclysmic catalyst, if you will, that

Brenton Sconce (00:10:24):
that kind of crashed everything in, into, you know, my soul, I guess, where I,

Brenton Sconce (00:10:31):
all the internal thoughts of failure and not living up and expectations and

Brenton Sconce (00:10:36):
perfectionism and all of those kinds of things became no longer avoidable.

Brenton Sconce (00:10:41):
And so it was,

Brenton Sconce (00:10:43):
you know,

Brenton Sconce (00:10:44):
as a result of stepping away from that role where I thought that was kind of,

Brenton Sconce (00:10:47):
that was my dream position.

Brenton Sconce (00:10:48):
It's what I had gone to school for initially.

Brenton Sconce (00:10:51):
It's what, you know, I had been trained in and that's where my passion in my heart was.

Brenton Sconce (00:10:56):
And so to have that end,

Brenton Sconce (00:10:58):
even though I was the one that made the call,

Brenton Sconce (00:11:00):
there was still this just nagging sense of failure.

Brenton Sconce (00:11:03):
And it just kind of overwhelmed me.

Brenton Sconce (00:11:05):
And that's where my active addiction really launched in.

Brenton Sconce (00:11:09):
And I think there was both an escapism aspect to it,

Brenton Sconce (00:11:12):
where I was trying to escape the reality of what I was experiencing and feeling.

Brenton Sconce (00:11:16):
That kind of morphed into this,

Brenton Sconce (00:11:18):
you know,

Brenton Sconce (00:11:19):
misguided,

Brenton Sconce (00:11:19):
I think I need alcohol to show up a certain way.

Brenton Sconce (00:11:22):
I think I need alcohol to be a certain way in front of people.

Brenton Sconce (00:11:25):
And so it kind of became that thing.

Brenton Sconce (00:11:26):
And then it became a daily thing and a daily dependence.

Brenton Sconce (00:11:29):
And then it became, you know, physical.

Brenton Sconce (00:11:31):
And then, you know, and then I think it becomes deeply, deeply spiritual as well.

Brenton Sconce (00:11:34):
And it hooks you and slowly, slowly kills you.

Brenton Sconce (00:11:38):
So the pastoral side was,

Brenton Sconce (00:11:40):
yeah,

Brenton Sconce (00:11:40):
pre,

Brenton Sconce (00:11:41):
I still drank as a pastor,

Brenton Sconce (00:11:43):
but very much socially,

Brenton Sconce (00:11:44):
just out with dinner,

Brenton Sconce (00:11:45):
you know,

Brenton Sconce (00:11:46):
every once in a while,

Brenton Sconce (00:11:46):
that kind of thing.

Brenton Sconce (00:11:47):
But yeah,

Brenton Sconce (00:11:47):
it was really the collapse of,

Brenton Sconce (00:11:50):
I guess,

Brenton Sconce (00:11:52):
the,

Brenton Sconce (00:11:52):
you know,

Brenton Sconce (00:11:53):
the paradigm of what I thought my world was going to be.

Brenton Sconce (00:11:55):
And I didn't know how to cope.

Brenton Sconce (00:11:58):
with it.

Brenton Sconce (00:11:59):
And so I quickly found that drinking allowed me to both escape and then also on the

Brenton Sconce (00:12:07):
flip side show up in a way that I thought I needed to show up for people rather

Brenton Sconce (00:12:11):
than being myself.

Rachel Casey (00:12:14):
Yeah.

Rachel Casey (00:12:14):
And is your wife in the program or she is one of the normal drinkers that doesn't

Rachel Casey (00:12:19):
really have a problem with it or?

Brenton Sconce (00:12:21):
Yeah, she's yeah, she's a normie.

Brenton Sconce (00:12:24):
Yeah.

Brenton Sconce (00:12:25):
So she does.

Brenton Sconce (00:12:26):
She still drinks very, very rarely, but she has been an amazing person.

Brenton Sconce (00:12:30):
support and encouragement to me in the journey.

Brenton Sconce (00:12:32):
I mean, you know, we don't keep alcohol in the house or anything like that.

Brenton Sconce (00:12:36):
She doesn't drink around me.

Brenton Sconce (00:12:37):
You know, it's very it's very rare for her to have a drink.

Brenton Sconce (00:12:40):
But yeah,

Brenton Sconce (00:12:42):
she we talk and joke about all the time how like she's never wondered if she had a

Brenton Sconce (00:12:47):
problem with alcohol,

Brenton Sconce (00:12:48):
like

Brenton Sconce (00:12:49):
Or I remember even dating,

Brenton Sconce (00:12:51):
like she would just like order a beer and then drink half of it and leave it and be

Brenton Sconce (00:12:56):
like,

Brenton Sconce (00:12:56):
just chill.

Brenton Sconce (00:12:57):
And I'm like, what?

Brenton Sconce (00:13:00):
What are you doing?

Brenton Sconce (00:13:00):
Leaving this thing?

Brenton Sconce (00:13:01):
Just sitting here like this is liquid gold.

Brenton Sconce (00:13:03):
And I remember back then even thinking like, this is nutso.

Brenton Sconce (00:13:05):
Like, how can you just walk away from this?

Brenton Sconce (00:13:07):
And I mean, that should have been that should have been a clue right there.

Brenton Sconce (00:13:10):
But but yeah, so she's she's a normie, but she's been

Brenton Sconce (00:13:13):
Yeah, absolutely amazing and incredible.

Brenton Sconce (00:13:16):
And it hasn't been without,

Brenton Sconce (00:13:18):
you know,

Brenton Sconce (00:13:18):
obvious rough times and a lot that we've had to work through and a lot that I've

Brenton Sconce (00:13:22):
had to work through rebuilding trust and kind of rebuilding a life that I started

Brenton Sconce (00:13:27):
to tear apart.

Brenton Sconce (00:13:28):
And

Rachel Casey (00:13:29):
She probably sees the change too,

Rachel Casey (00:13:30):
just because like,

Rachel Casey (00:13:31):
it's not just alcoholics who can see a change.

Rachel Casey (00:13:34):
I mean, we probably feel it on a very deep level because we understand that inner feeling.

Rachel Casey (00:13:39):
It's just like any other relation that can't really understand baseball things if

Rachel Casey (00:13:45):
you're not playing baseball,

Rachel Casey (00:13:46):
but you understand if like,

Rachel Casey (00:13:47):
so I think there is a deeper level,

Rachel Casey (00:13:49):
but.

Rachel Casey (00:13:50):
it didn't take much time before other people that have no addiction issues were

Rachel Casey (00:13:55):
like whoa you have a a different aura a glow a you know it's yeah so i'm sure it

Rachel Casey (00:14:03):
was pretty easy for her to see like she wants to so i haven't found any partner who

Rachel Casey (00:14:09):
doesn't want to support unless they have a drinking problem themselves and they're

Rachel Casey (00:14:14):
mad and resentful that they are losing their drinking buddy

Rachel Casey (00:14:17):
yeah yeah and that's probably how it would have been had colin and i not got sober

Rachel Casey (00:14:23):
together again that was very serendipitous that was very i have no idea how we have

Rachel Casey (00:14:28):
the same sobriety date but uh we would drink each other under the table so i'm like

Rachel Casey (00:14:34):
i know and it was funny in recovery because i know the kind of drinker he is and he

Rachel Casey (00:14:38):
knows the kind of drinker i am and so like there was no bullshitting each other you

Rachel Casey (00:14:42):
know there was no this is kind of how it was he's like no i was there yes it was

Rachel Casey (00:14:48):
bad and which i think is why we like comedy so much because there's a couple ways

Rachel Casey (00:14:55):
you can go about looking at your past and we choose to laugh about it and

Rachel Casey (00:15:01):
there's a time to be serious, obviously like our first year or he'll even talk about it.

Rachel Casey (00:15:06):
My first year, like I didn't think anything about recovery was funny.

Rachel Casey (00:15:09):
It was very serious.

Rachel Casey (00:15:10):
It was life and death.

Rachel Casey (00:15:11):
I was very hot and cold,

Rachel Casey (00:15:14):
which no surprise I'm alcoholic,

Rachel Casey (00:15:15):
but now I,

Rachel Casey (00:15:18):
I mean,

Rachel Casey (00:15:18):
it's really hard not to.

Rachel Casey (00:15:19):
So how do you incorporate humor in your recovery?

Brenton Sconce (00:15:23):
Yeah.

Brenton Sconce (00:15:24):
So that's a great, yeah.

Brenton Sconce (00:15:25):
Great segue to, you know, why I created office recovery.

Brenton Sconce (00:15:28):
Like it,

Brenton Sconce (00:15:29):
kind of birthed out of my time in the treatment center where

Brenton Sconce (00:15:32):
Like at the end of every week,

Brenton Sconce (00:15:33):
we could all like that,

Brenton Sconce (00:15:34):
like all the people in the center could choose a movie to watch or whatever for the

Brenton Sconce (00:15:38):
end of the night,

Brenton Sconce (00:15:39):
instead of like a final group session.

Brenton Sconce (00:15:41):
And one of the things I noticed was almost every time unanimously,

Brenton Sconce (00:15:46):
everyone would vote on some sort of a comedy.

Brenton Sconce (00:15:48):
And so it just got me thinking while I was in there, I was like, what is it about humor?

Brenton Sconce (00:15:53):
Like there's gotta be more to humor than just simply a momentary escape from

Brenton Sconce (00:15:58):
reality that keeps drawing like

Brenton Sconce (00:16:01):
these people in the treatment center that you would

Brenton Sconce (00:16:05):
I mean, they're at the bottom of the bottom, right, if they're in there, and I'm one of them.

Brenton Sconce (00:16:10):
And what is it that keeps drawing us back into humor?

Brenton Sconce (00:16:13):
And so that got me kind of on a path and a journey of researching what it is about

Brenton Sconce (00:16:19):
humor that's actually healing.

Brenton Sconce (00:16:21):
And in my research,

Brenton Sconce (00:16:23):
I mean,

Brenton Sconce (00:16:25):
there's so many studies out there that show not only on the neurological side and

Brenton Sconce (00:16:30):
the neuroplasticity side of what humor can do to reshape our

Brenton Sconce (00:16:33):
our brain and rewire our neurons.

Brenton Sconce (00:16:35):
But it has a ton of benefits when it comes to anti-fragility,

Brenton Sconce (00:16:39):
when it comes to community building,

Brenton Sconce (00:16:41):
when it comes to being able to address the trauma of our past.

Brenton Sconce (00:16:46):
If we are enveloping ourselves in humor,

Brenton Sconce (00:16:49):
we're able to see those events a little bit outside of itself and be able to

Brenton Sconce (00:16:55):
actually walk through those,

Brenton Sconce (00:16:56):
you know,

Brenton Sconce (00:16:56):
maybe those traumatic events that shaped

Brenton Sconce (00:16:58):
who we've become.

Brenton Sconce (00:17:00):
So there's a ton of benefits to humor when it comes to specifically the recovery process.

Brenton Sconce (00:17:07):
So a year into my sober journey,

Brenton Sconce (00:17:10):
I was watching The Office like I always do because it's always on repeat.

Brenton Sconce (00:17:14):
And it has been since early 2000s.

Brenton Sconce (00:17:16):
And I was like, you know, The Office is like the funniest show in the world.

Brenton Sconce (00:17:19):
Like that's a hill I will die on.

Brenton Sconce (00:17:21):
The Office is the greatest TV show ever created.

Brenton Sconce (00:17:24):
And so I was like, I want to combine The Office with...

Brenton Sconce (00:17:29):
recovery and there were so many memes that I started to like think about that I was

Brenton Sconce (00:17:34):
like oh that's like that's hilarious to me and it really started out with like this

Brenton Sconce (00:17:38):
is a joke for myself to just like post these and yeah and people have you know

Brenton Sconce (00:17:43):
responded to it and it's developed into this thing where it's been an absolutely

Brenton Sconce (00:17:47):
beautiful connection with so many people where not only are they

Brenton Sconce (00:17:51):
able to kind of get a laugh out of the memes and it kind of brings them back to the

Brenton Sconce (00:17:55):
episodes that it's referencing.

Brenton Sconce (00:17:56):
But I've been able to have some really like intense and deep and real conversations with people.

Brenton Sconce (00:18:01):
And I think that's the beauty of humor is it can lighten the load just enough

Brenton Sconce (00:18:07):
for you to take that next right step.

Brenton Sconce (00:18:08):
And it can also connect you with people that you otherwise probably never would

Brenton Sconce (00:18:12):
have engaged with.

Brenton Sconce (00:18:14):
And so then when that connection is made,

Brenton Sconce (00:18:16):
I mean,

Brenton Sconce (00:18:16):
then you're walking side by side with somebody through life.

Brenton Sconce (00:18:20):
And that's,

Brenton Sconce (00:18:21):
I mean,

Brenton Sconce (00:18:21):
that's massive in general,

Brenton Sconce (00:18:24):
but in the recovery space,

Brenton Sconce (00:18:25):
that's absolutely essential.

Brenton Sconce (00:18:28):
And so that's where office recovery was born.

Brenton Sconce (00:18:30):
And that's kind of where humor comes into play for it.

Brenton Sconce (00:18:33):
And I like what you said earlier that

Brenton Sconce (00:18:35):
There, there are certainly times that are serious.

Brenton Sconce (00:18:38):
There's a lot of times like, for a while, my tagline was recovery is hard enough as it is.

Brenton Sconce (00:18:43):
Like, it's, it is a heavy thing.

Brenton Sconce (00:18:46):
I mean, you're, you're morphing into the person you were meant to be.

Brenton Sconce (00:18:51):
And

Brenton Sconce (00:18:53):
that you know that transformation doesn't come without pain you know and it's it's

Brenton Sconce (00:18:58):
like a a surgeon coming in with a scalpel and and cutting off the parts of you that

Brenton Sconce (00:19:04):
no longer serve you and and that doesn't feel good and so there's a lot of

Brenton Sconce (00:19:08):
heaviness there's a lot of pain and a lot of trauma in the recovery world and um

Brenton Sconce (00:19:14):
And if I can help or if we can kind of embrace this aspect of either looking at our

Brenton Sconce (00:19:18):
past humorously or just being able to shape present circumstances with a little bit

Brenton Sconce (00:19:23):
of humor and be able to smile and laugh,

Brenton Sconce (00:19:26):
and especially on a hard,

Brenton Sconce (00:19:28):
tough day,

Brenton Sconce (00:19:28):
sometimes that's all we need to kind of take the next breath and move forward.

Rachel Casey (00:19:34):
A hundred percent.

Rachel Casey (00:19:35):
He said it so well.

Rachel Casey (00:19:36):
It's like there is another level of connection.

Rachel Casey (00:19:39):
And that's it's always nice when you find someone who likes the same stuff as you.

Rachel Casey (00:19:45):
And it's really easy to.

Rachel Casey (00:19:47):
Yeah, that means you have a personal like favorite meme that you've made.

Brenton Sconce (00:19:50):
Oh, that's a good question.

Brenton Sconce (00:19:52):
The.

Rachel Casey (00:19:53):
i mean michael scott is probably in like anything with him yeah yeah i was like any

Brenton Sconce (00:19:57):
of his stuff i really like so i think the two that just pop to the front of mind

Brenton Sconce (00:20:01):
there's the one where michael is jumping on the train and in the actual episode

Brenton Sconce (00:20:04):
he's like i'm running away from my responsibilities and it feels good and i mean

Brenton Sconce (00:20:08):
that into running away from my alcoholism and it feels good um but just knowing

Brenton Sconce (00:20:12):
like his cadence and how he says it like i can hear it and i don't know that one

Brenton Sconce (00:20:17):
just strikes me as super funny but also like

Brenton Sconce (00:20:19):
oddly you know poignant and deep and then the other one is when Creed gets on the

Brenton Sconce (00:20:25):
bus like when he's hitchhiking and he's like playing hooky from work and uh he sees

Brenton Sconce (00:20:31):
everyone on like all the work you know his his co-workers on the bus and he's like

Brenton Sconce (00:20:35):
oh my god I memed that one too and was like I think it was a dry January one where

Brenton Sconce (00:20:39):
I was like I'm taking a break from dry January and then sees like the recovery

Brenton Sconce (00:20:43):
community and it's like oh

Brenton Sconce (00:20:44):
Yeah.

Brenton Sconce (00:20:45):
I don't know.

Brenton Sconce (00:20:45):
That one was super fun to make too.

Rachel Casey (00:20:48):
Creed is a great one too.

Rachel Casey (00:20:50):
You can put that with any like AA meeting and he's like, what am I doing here?

Rachel Casey (00:20:54):
Like your first day sober.

Rachel Casey (00:20:55):
Like what am I doing?

Rachel Casey (00:20:58):
Creed is my husband's favorite.

Brenton Sconce (00:20:58):
Yeah.

Brenton Sconce (00:20:59):
He's like the old guy.

Brenton Sconce (00:20:59):
Yeah.

Brenton Sconce (00:21:00):
The old guy in the meetings.

Brenton Sconce (00:21:01):
Right.

Brenton Sconce (00:21:01):
That's like just had this insane life and just talks about it or doesn't.

Brenton Sconce (00:21:05):
And you know, he'll say like little bits and you're like, who is this guy?

Brenton Sconce (00:21:09):
Like that's Creed.

Rachel Casey (00:21:10):
yep yeah for sure and then you even have like you could the kelly romance you know

Rachel Casey (00:21:16):
there's always studying treatment centers on the back end because i'm going back to

Rachel Casey (00:21:20):
school too i laughed so hard at the chapter it's like loving the treatment center

Rachel Casey (00:21:25):
and it's like you know you have to watch out for it because it will technically

Rachel Casey (00:21:30):
it's so this is where it gets serious it can be a sub addiction but on the initial

Rachel Casey (00:21:34):
i'm like oh god you know having to keep these kids apart like no you can't

Rachel Casey (00:21:39):
can't just substitute drinking for yeah and there's a healthy boundary to it i mean

Rachel Casey (00:21:45):
like if someone has done that and it works i know but typically at least on the

Rachel Casey (00:21:51):
school side they say yep when you're in your first like 90 days you're not supposed

Rachel Casey (00:21:56):
to like be in this intense relationship and finding love with someone else who's in

Rachel Casey (00:22:00):
rehab and yeah yeah

Rachel Casey (00:22:02):
uh i again that's how i don't know how my husband and i made it because it we were

Rachel Casey (00:22:07):
both alcoholics you know so to uh have not one of us be like well you know let's

Rachel Casey (00:22:14):
just go back or something happened of that nature we feel very lucky well well to

Brenton Sconce (00:22:20):
your point about loving the treatment center i did a meme based on that with

Brenton Sconce (00:22:23):
michael scott where it's like they tell you not to date you know for the first six

Brenton Sconce (00:22:26):
months or a year and i just did date mike you know where he's like nice to meet me

Brenton Sconce (00:22:30):
like

Brenton Sconce (00:22:31):
I was like, this is me stepping out of rehab.

Rachel Casey (00:22:33):
So how do you like incorporate faith in with all this?

Rachel Casey (00:22:36):
So how do you stay sober?

Rachel Casey (00:22:37):
If you went through the treatment center and you said,

Rachel Casey (00:22:40):
you know,

Rachel Casey (00:22:41):
you can come back whenever,

Rachel Casey (00:22:42):
are you going through like 12 step based?

Rachel Casey (00:22:45):
Are you just kind of staying in a different community?

Rachel Casey (00:22:48):
Like how do you stay sober?

Brenton Sconce (00:22:49):
Yeah.

Brenton Sconce (00:22:50):
So when I first got out of the treatment center,

Brenton Sconce (00:22:53):
I really was,

Brenton Sconce (00:22:54):
I knew I was desperate enough to,

Brenton Sconce (00:22:55):
to

Brenton Sconce (00:22:57):
Look and consider like every option out there.

Brenton Sconce (00:23:01):
And so I had,

Brenton Sconce (00:23:02):
you know,

Brenton Sconce (00:23:02):
the same buddy of mine that dropped me off at the center was like,

Brenton Sconce (00:23:06):
hey,

Brenton Sconce (00:23:06):
you know,

Brenton Sconce (00:23:06):
start coming to meetings with me.

Brenton Sconce (00:23:07):
So I did I did that.

Brenton Sconce (00:23:09):
So that in conjunction with the stuff at the treatment center that I did for,

Brenton Sconce (00:23:13):
you know,

Brenton Sconce (00:23:14):
the next nine months or whatever,

Brenton Sconce (00:23:15):
really kind of launched and laid that foundation for me.

Brenton Sconce (00:23:19):
for the first year, year and a half of everything.

Brenton Sconce (00:23:21):
And so,

Brenton Sconce (00:23:22):
yeah,

Brenton Sconce (00:23:22):
I did the 12 steps,

Brenton Sconce (00:23:24):
you know,

Brenton Sconce (00:23:24):
has have a sponsor,

Brenton Sconce (00:23:25):
I still go to meetings when I can,

Brenton Sconce (00:23:27):
it's not as often as it used to be.

Brenton Sconce (00:23:29):
And part of that is

Brenton Sconce (00:23:31):
yeah,

Brenton Sconce (00:23:31):
the community that I've developed and that I surround myself with now is totally

Brenton Sconce (00:23:35):
different.

Brenton Sconce (00:23:36):
And coming out of, you know, out of rehab, it's a clean slate.

Brenton Sconce (00:23:39):
There's like nobody there.

Brenton Sconce (00:23:41):
So AA and, you know, the rooms of recovery was kind of my community to start out with.

Brenton Sconce (00:23:45):
And so,

Brenton Sconce (00:23:45):
yeah,

Brenton Sconce (00:23:46):
I went that route for a long time and was going to meetings very often and

Brenton Sconce (00:23:50):
consistently.

Brenton Sconce (00:23:50):
And then outside of that,

Brenton Sconce (00:23:52):
once I started office recovery and,

Brenton Sconce (00:23:53):
you know,

Brenton Sconce (00:23:54):
started connecting with folks,

Brenton Sconce (00:23:55):
I mean,

Brenton Sconce (00:23:55):
that's been,

Brenton Sconce (00:23:56):
nobody's more surprised than I am at how,

Brenton Sconce (00:23:59):
amazing the recovery and the sober community has been online.

Brenton Sconce (00:24:02):
I never was a social media guy prior to office recovery.

Brenton Sconce (00:24:05):
I mean, I had social media accounts.

Brenton Sconce (00:24:07):
I've had Facebook since 2005.

Brenton Sconce (00:24:09):
I was in one of the test schools before they launched nationwide when there was the

Brenton Sconce (00:24:14):
wall and everything.

Brenton Sconce (00:24:15):
And

Rachel Casey (00:24:15):
Oh, I forgot about that.

Rachel Casey (00:24:16):
Yeah.

Brenton Sconce (00:24:17):
Yeah.

Brenton Sconce (00:24:17):
So I've had it for a very long time.

Brenton Sconce (00:24:21):
But launching Office Recovery and then starting to connect with people and getting

Brenton Sconce (00:24:25):
these awesome connections and conversations going has been so helpful for me.

Brenton Sconce (00:24:30):
And then just constantly thinking and creating content for Office Recovery very

Brenton Sconce (00:24:34):
much keeps me in the mind space of recovery all the time.

Brenton Sconce (00:24:37):
And then adding on top of that fitness and working out and

Brenton Sconce (00:24:42):
I'm surrounding myself with like-minded people,

Brenton Sconce (00:24:44):
even folks who still have a healthy relationship with alcohol,

Brenton Sconce (00:24:47):
but their pursuits and their life goals match up more with mine.

Brenton Sconce (00:24:51):
So just surrounding myself with folks like that has been huge too.

Brenton Sconce (00:24:55):
So yeah, I'm in a great place.

Brenton Sconce (00:24:57):
I went back to school.

Brenton Sconce (00:24:58):
I'm graduating in June.

Brenton Sconce (00:25:00):
Congratulations.

Rachel Casey (00:25:01):
That's huge.

Brenton Sconce (00:25:02):
Exactly one month.

Brenton Sconce (00:25:03):
I'll be walking.

Brenton Sconce (00:25:04):
Oh, that's awesome.

Brenton Sconce (00:25:06):
I've never walked to get a diploma or degree.

Brenton Sconce (00:25:10):
So I was homeschooled in high school.

Brenton Sconce (00:25:13):
That doesn't count.

Brenton Sconce (00:25:14):
Like you're walking to the living room.

Brenton Sconce (00:25:16):
And then my bachelor's was all online and I wasn't going to fly to Chicago to walk

Brenton Sconce (00:25:22):
the aisle there.

Brenton Sconce (00:25:23):
And so here I'm going to walk and get my master's.

Brenton Sconce (00:25:25):
So that'll be fun.

Brenton Sconce (00:25:26):
That's exciting.

Brenton Sconce (00:25:27):
Yeah.

Brenton Sconce (00:25:28):
Like going back to school,

Brenton Sconce (00:25:29):
I did things like I wrote a kid's book that I'm working on getting published right

Brenton Sconce (00:25:33):
now.

Brenton Sconce (00:25:33):
And then

Brenton Sconce (00:25:34):
office recovery and then the the bear crawl training stuff like all of these things

Brenton Sconce (00:25:38):
are like never would have happened in in active addiction like outside of recovery

Brenton Sconce (00:25:44):
there's no way any of this would have have come about so and what's the bear if you

Rachel Casey (00:25:48):
want to segue into how's the bear crawl starting or how did that start because

Rachel Casey (00:25:52):
that's second right yeah so office recovery then now it's bear crawl which i

Brenton Sconce (00:25:57):
haven't really mentioned that yet

Brenton Sconce (00:25:59):
Yeah, so office recovery was, yeah, that's kind of my baby, my main thing.

Brenton Sconce (00:26:04):
The Bloomsday Bear Crawl,

Brenton Sconce (00:26:06):
I came up with the idea about a year ago,

Brenton Sconce (00:26:10):
but we just officially launched like on Instagram and YouTube and Facebook this

Brenton Sconce (00:26:15):
month.

Brenton Sconce (00:26:17):
And what it is,

Brenton Sconce (00:26:18):
is it's a year-long fundraising campaign to raise funds for aftercare scholarships

Brenton Sconce (00:26:24):
for the treatment center that I was a part of,

Brenton Sconce (00:26:26):
which is Royal Life Center.

Brenton Sconce (00:26:28):
Um, so I was a recipient of a scholarship.

Brenton Sconce (00:26:31):
My case manager, when I was in detox was like, Hey, we think you should go to, to aftercare.

Brenton Sconce (00:26:37):
And I couldn't, there's no way I could afford it.

Brenton Sconce (00:26:39):
Like it's crazy expensive and my insurance wouldn't do it.

Brenton Sconce (00:26:43):
Well,

Brenton Sconce (00:26:43):
unbeknownst to me,

Brenton Sconce (00:26:44):
she apparently put my name in for a scholarship and I was offered this scholarship

Brenton Sconce (00:26:50):
and it covered 100% of my aftercare,

Brenton Sconce (00:26:52):
my 12 weeks with them.

Rachel Casey (00:26:53):
Probably a huge difference.

Brenton Sconce (00:26:55):
Yeah, huge, huge difference because you've got detox and residential, which...

Brenton Sconce (00:26:59):
kind of starts to tear up the,

Brenton Sconce (00:27:02):
the foundation a little bit,

Brenton Sconce (00:27:03):
but really it's like all that aftercare that lays the foundation.

Brenton Sconce (00:27:06):
It really solidifies what you like,

Brenton Sconce (00:27:08):
what,

Brenton Sconce (00:27:09):
you know,

Brenton Sconce (00:27:09):
your,

Brenton Sconce (00:27:09):
your mind starts becoming clear enough to actually start to take in things and

Brenton Sconce (00:27:13):
understand and remember them and you start to build community with people like

Brenton Sconce (00:27:19):
actual community.

Brenton Sconce (00:27:20):
Cause you're kind of out living life now,

Brenton Sconce (00:27:22):
not just in your,

Brenton Sconce (00:27:23):
you know,

Brenton Sconce (00:27:24):
little bubble in the treatment center.

Brenton Sconce (00:27:26):
Um,

Brenton Sconce (00:27:27):
So it's absolutely vital,

Brenton Sconce (00:27:28):
I think,

Brenton Sconce (00:27:29):
and important for folks if they can get into some sort of aftercare program if

Brenton Sconce (00:27:32):
they're going the treatment center route.

Brenton Sconce (00:27:35):
So anyway,

Brenton Sconce (00:27:36):
so I was like,

Brenton Sconce (00:27:36):
okay,

Brenton Sconce (00:27:37):
I want to do something and give back to the community that's been so incredibly

Brenton Sconce (00:27:41):
helpful for me.

Brenton Sconce (00:27:42):
So I'm doing the year-long fundraiser.

Brenton Sconce (00:27:43):
It culminates in May of 2026 with me bear crawling the Bloomsday Race, which is 7.46 miles.

Brenton Sconce (00:27:51):
Um,

Brenton Sconce (00:27:54):
uh,

Brenton Sconce (00:27:54):
in May,

Brenton Sconce (00:27:55):
I'll be bear crawling the whole thing and the whole thing will just be a giant

Brenton Sconce (00:27:58):
fundraiser and all the donations,

Brenton Sconce (00:28:00):
a hundred percent of the donations are going to go into the scholarship and be able

Brenton Sconce (00:28:04):
to help out as many people as possible,

Brenton Sconce (00:28:07):
be able to get into aftercare.

Brenton Sconce (00:28:08):
So that's what the Bloomsday Bear Crawl is.

Brenton Sconce (00:28:11):
And yeah, and it's been fantastic.

Brenton Sconce (00:28:13):
So I'm, you know, I'm training every day and it's, it's absolutely brutal.

Brenton Sconce (00:28:18):
Um,

Brenton Sconce (00:28:19):
but I'm, I'm super excited for it.

Brenton Sconce (00:28:21):
And I think,

Brenton Sconce (00:28:21):
I think it's going to be really,

Brenton Sconce (00:28:23):
really cool to see,

Brenton Sconce (00:28:24):
you know,

Brenton Sconce (00:28:25):
the folks that we get to help out and yeah.

Brenton Sconce (00:28:27):
And then just have a crazy adventure along the way.

Rachel Casey (00:28:30):
I think that's awesome because people,

Rachel Casey (00:28:32):
and that's another thing that when I was in school and one of the classes and the

Rachel Casey (00:28:37):
ethics class,

Rachel Casey (00:28:38):
we went to interview other counselors and talk about like the harder parts of the

Rachel Casey (00:28:43):
job.

Rachel Casey (00:28:45):
And they, without doubt said,

Rachel Casey (00:28:47):
getting payment or getting someone approved because like they're one question off

Rachel Casey (00:28:52):
and then the insurance company won't cover the recovery treatment or they won't

Rachel Casey (00:28:57):
cover like you said the aftercare like they'll only approve sometimes as little as

Rachel Casey (00:29:01):
like seven days some people as much as 90 but i think 90 is about the max like i

Rachel Casey (00:29:08):
haven't really heard of anything more than 90 and as you and i probably know

Rachel Casey (00:29:13):
it that there is so much growth i would say even the first six months or year

Rachel Casey (00:29:18):
honestly like getting in your routine and your foundation because we talk what it's

Rachel Casey (00:29:24):
30 days to build a habit right no so we're doing two things we're unlearning an

Rachel Casey (00:29:28):
addiction which is a chemical balance in our brain that tells us this substance

Rachel Casey (00:29:34):
will make us feel good even though it's not going to

Rachel Casey (00:29:37):
and so we're fighting that dragon all at the same time trying to build these new

Rachel Casey (00:29:42):
habits and it it is it's the best experience but it is hard and having

Rachel Casey (00:29:50):
tools people like-minded individuals around you it's so important i think like it

Rachel Casey (00:29:57):
is and not everyone i talked about i had my house i had a car a lot of people when

Rachel Casey (00:30:04):
they enter recovery that's not the sentences they're always saying they might have

Rachel Casey (00:30:08):
nothing they might have pushed away the family and friends so like

Rachel Casey (00:30:13):
the only chance they have at recovery is to get support from other people so that's

Rachel Casey (00:30:19):
i can't wait to share and promote this so i didn't even know the whole backstory of

Rachel Casey (00:30:23):
the year campaign and i think that's incredible no it's it's going to be fantastic

Brenton Sconce (00:30:28):
and yeah the you know it takes a minimum of 90 days for your dopamine levels to

Brenton Sconce (00:30:32):
begin to reset like let's begin to reset and so even if you're out of treatment

Brenton Sconce (00:30:37):
even if you get the full max 90 days

Brenton Sconce (00:30:40):
you're all of a sudden back out in your home or on the street or whatever the case is.

Brenton Sconce (00:30:44):
But now all of a sudden,

Brenton Sconce (00:30:46):
you know,

Brenton Sconce (00:30:46):
you're at this level,

Brenton Sconce (00:30:47):
you're used to being at this level,

Brenton Sconce (00:30:49):
but you have no tools,

Brenton Sconce (00:30:50):
you have no resources,

Brenton Sconce (00:30:51):
no community on how to manage and start to find joy in the things that we're meant

Brenton Sconce (00:30:56):
to find joy in that are supposed to be the actual dopamine spikes.

Brenton Sconce (00:31:00):
And so, I mean, what are you going to do?

Brenton Sconce (00:31:02):
Like you don't have to surround yourself with other people.

Rachel Casey (00:31:04):
Like you can find dopamine spikes and it can, it's so easy to slip out.

Rachel Casey (00:31:09):
and yeah because when you're in a treatment center right like you're you're in

Rachel Casey (00:31:14):
you're kind you don't unless you do ama you're not leaving and that's not how life

Rachel Casey (00:31:18):
is we have temptation around us every single day like

Rachel Casey (00:31:21):
i loved loved one of my sponsees used to her parents were just scared about her

Rachel Casey (00:31:26):
going back to her apartment being like what if you find a bottle there what if you

Rachel Casey (00:31:31):
like come across alcohol like they just they were so happy to have their daughter

Rachel Casey (00:31:34):
back and yeah she's like pulls out her her id she pulls out her keys she's like if

Rachel Casey (00:31:40):
i wanted a drink i can go get one like having it in front of me is not gonna make

Rachel Casey (00:31:44):
me go jump into a fountain like i have the choice every single day

Rachel Casey (00:31:49):
I can go seek it out if I choose.

Rachel Casey (00:31:51):
And I choose not to because it was destroying my, I'm alcoholic.

Rachel Casey (00:31:54):
I'm, once I take a sip, I'm going to keep going.

Rachel Casey (00:31:58):
And I'm like,

Rachel Casey (00:31:59):
yeah,

Rachel Casey (00:31:59):
that,

Rachel Casey (00:32:00):
that,

Rachel Casey (00:32:00):
the aftercare is what teaches you that until you get to a place where when you see

Rachel Casey (00:32:05):
alcohol,

Rachel Casey (00:32:06):
you're not going to,

Rachel Casey (00:32:07):
you have to learn how to not be triggered or it takes time.

Brenton Sconce (00:32:11):
It does take time.

Brenton Sconce (00:32:12):
Yeah, absolutely.

Brenton Sconce (00:32:13):
Yeah.

Brenton Sconce (00:32:13):
So any way that we can give back in donations,

Brenton Sconce (00:32:17):
I'm expecting the donation platform to open up in June.

Brenton Sconce (00:32:20):
And so then that's when I'll start accepting fundraising and start promoting the

Brenton Sconce (00:32:25):
actual fundraising aspect of it.

Brenton Sconce (00:32:27):
And so that's when that will come about.

Brenton Sconce (00:32:28):
But yeah,

Brenton Sconce (00:32:29):
I'm just excited to see what we get to do as a recovery community to help other

Brenton Sconce (00:32:34):
folks get like an actual chance at getting their life back or starting a new life

Brenton Sconce (00:32:40):
or whatever the case might be,

Brenton Sconce (00:32:42):
but getting an opportunity,

Brenton Sconce (00:32:43):
like just the opportunity to do something.

Brenton Sconce (00:32:46):
So that's what I'm super, super excited about.

Rachel Casey (00:32:49):
That sounds, and there's just a lot, there's a lot of laughter too.

Rachel Casey (00:32:53):
And like you said,

Rachel Casey (00:32:54):
there's,

Rachel Casey (00:32:56):
so if you had to like share right now with someone struggling,

Rachel Casey (00:33:00):
who's listening or thinking about getting sober and they're like that teetotall,

Rachel Casey (00:33:04):
what would you have for advice or what would you say?

Brenton Sconce (00:33:09):
Yeah,

Brenton Sconce (00:33:09):
I think it takes a lot of honesty for someone to take a good hard look at

Brenton Sconce (00:33:14):
themselves and figure out.

Brenton Sconce (00:33:15):
And I think if you're asking the question,

Brenton Sconce (00:33:17):
and I said this to a friend of mine just recently,

Brenton Sconce (00:33:19):
if you're asking the question,

Brenton Sconce (00:33:21):
do I have a problem with alcohol,

Brenton Sconce (00:33:22):
odds are

Brenton Sconce (00:33:23):
You probably do,

Brenton Sconce (00:33:25):
because I think folks with a healthy relationship with alcohol don't ask that

Brenton Sconce (00:33:29):
question.

Brenton Sconce (00:33:30):
They don't have to.

Brenton Sconce (00:33:31):
It doesn't even cross their mind.

Brenton Sconce (00:33:32):
It's like leaving a glass of water on the counter.

Brenton Sconce (00:33:35):
And so I think if if you're listening to this podcast,

Brenton Sconce (00:33:39):
if you're,

Brenton Sconce (00:33:39):
you know,

Brenton Sconce (00:33:40):
Googling,

Brenton Sconce (00:33:41):
you know,

Brenton Sconce (00:33:41):
am I an alcoholic or any of those kinds of things that there's even the slightest

Brenton Sconce (00:33:45):
like hint that that you might have a problem.

Brenton Sconce (00:33:48):
That is your moment of clarity.

Brenton Sconce (00:33:50):
And that's where you need to take an honest look and say, OK, well, what level is this at?

Brenton Sconce (00:33:56):
Like,

Brenton Sconce (00:33:56):
do I need to go to the recovery,

Brenton Sconce (00:33:58):
you know,

Brenton Sconce (00:33:59):
the rehab treatment center route because I just can't control it myself?

Brenton Sconce (00:34:03):
Do I need to get into a program and just start visiting different ones and go to

Brenton Sconce (00:34:06):
like,

Brenton Sconce (00:34:07):
I mean,

Brenton Sconce (00:34:08):
a million there's a million different support groups out there for all different

Brenton Sconce (00:34:12):
types of people.

Brenton Sconce (00:34:13):
like walk into a meeting,

Brenton Sconce (00:34:15):
see how it feels,

Brenton Sconce (00:34:15):
try a different meeting,

Brenton Sconce (00:34:16):
see how it feels,

Brenton Sconce (00:34:17):
hop on the,

Brenton Sconce (00:34:18):
the,

Brenton Sconce (00:34:19):
you know,

Brenton Sconce (00:34:19):
sober curious or the sober community on social media and just start meeting people.

Brenton Sconce (00:34:24):
And you're going to hear stories all over the map of,

Brenton Sconce (00:34:27):
you know,

Brenton Sconce (00:34:27):
folks that just knew it wasn't good for them.

Brenton Sconce (00:34:29):
And so they stopped all the way up to,

Brenton Sconce (00:34:31):
you know,

Brenton Sconce (00:34:32):
folks in and out of prison for decades and,

Brenton Sconce (00:34:34):
and now they're sober.

Brenton Sconce (00:34:36):
And so like, you'll, you'll meet people that way.

Brenton Sconce (00:34:39):
I think the first thing is you honestly have to just assess,

Brenton Sconce (00:34:43):
at what level is alcohol playing in my life?

Brenton Sconce (00:34:46):
And then following that,

Brenton Sconce (00:34:47):
your next step is really thinking,

Brenton Sconce (00:34:49):
okay,

Brenton Sconce (00:34:50):
what's the next right step that I need to take to really recover myself and to

Brenton Sconce (00:34:55):
become,

Brenton Sconce (00:34:55):
you know,

Brenton Sconce (00:34:56):
it's cliche,

Brenton Sconce (00:34:57):
but the best version of myself.

Brenton Sconce (00:34:59):
And is that treatment center?

Brenton Sconce (00:35:00):
Is that meetings?

Brenton Sconce (00:35:01):
Is that just a supportive community that'll walk with me as I drop,

Brenton Sconce (00:35:05):
you know,

Brenton Sconce (00:35:06):
alcohol out of my life?

Brenton Sconce (00:35:07):
I think those are kind of the first next steps that somebody would need to do.

Brenton Sconce (00:35:12):
And I mean,

Brenton Sconce (00:35:13):
I say this all the time on my social medias,

Brenton Sconce (00:35:15):
but if anyone is listening to this,

Brenton Sconce (00:35:17):
if you ever want to talk,

Brenton Sconce (00:35:18):
ever want advice,

Brenton Sconce (00:35:20):
I don't know what I can give you for advice,

Brenton Sconce (00:35:23):
but I'll talk to you.

Brenton Sconce (00:35:24):
I'll listen to your story and I'll be there for you.

Brenton Sconce (00:35:29):
if we can walk through this journey together, I'm here with you guys.

Brenton Sconce (00:35:32):
And so that's, you know, I think that's what I would say for kind of initial first steps.

Brenton Sconce (00:35:37):
If anyone's questioning or wondering if they've got a problem is

Brenton Sconce (00:35:41):
kind of follow that pathway.

Brenton Sconce (00:35:44):
And don't lose hope.

Brenton Sconce (00:35:45):
Like if you're waking up, you know, you woke up this morning, there's hope.

Brenton Sconce (00:35:50):
Like you wake up tomorrow, there's hope.

Brenton Sconce (00:35:52):
Like there's always an opportunity for you to take that next right step.

Brenton Sconce (00:35:56):
And don't be afraid to reach out.

Brenton Sconce (00:35:58):
I think a lot of folks,

Brenton Sconce (00:36:00):
the number one thing that folks deal with,

Brenton Sconce (00:36:02):
I think when it comes specifically to alcohol is shame.

Brenton Sconce (00:36:05):
And shame dissipates when stories are shared in safe spaces.

Brenton Sconce (00:36:10):
Share your story with me.

Brenton Sconce (00:36:12):
Find somebody you can share your story with,

Brenton Sconce (00:36:14):
someone you feel comfortable with that's not going to judge you.

Brenton Sconce (00:36:18):
And you'll be amazed at how the shame just disappears.

Brenton Sconce (00:36:22):
And there's such an incredible freedom in being able to share your story.

Brenton Sconce (00:36:26):
And you realize you're not alone.

Brenton Sconce (00:36:29):
You're not alone at all.

Brenton Sconce (00:36:30):
There are tons of us out here that would love to hold your hand and walk you through this.

Rachel Casey (00:36:36):
Absolutely.

Rachel Casey (00:36:38):
always say ditto on that.

Rachel Casey (00:36:39):
And I will even go the step further that,

Rachel Casey (00:36:43):
and I'm sure this is the same with you,

Rachel Casey (00:36:44):
that if someone reaches out to me and I am not able to like in that moment,

Rachel Casey (00:36:49):
take step,

Rachel Casey (00:36:50):
step aside.

Rachel Casey (00:36:51):
Cause I have a five-year-old like in life can be life.

Rachel Casey (00:36:53):
Like if someone reached out to you,

Rachel Casey (00:36:56):
while you were walking you know you're like i'm or doing this podcast right now

Rachel Casey (00:37:00):
what i will say is as soon as i see that text if i am not available i know someone

Rachel Casey (00:37:05):
else who is available and i can send you that resource or i will text them and i

Rachel Casey (00:37:09):
will i have at least 100 numbers in my phone right now of hey i am so grateful you

Rachel Casey (00:37:16):
reached out to me

Rachel Casey (00:37:17):
i am in the middle but i don't want you to wait to talk to someone let me get you

Rachel Casey (00:37:23):
in contact with this person or here's the nearest meeting to you i will do all the

Rachel Casey (00:37:28):
back work i will help you so

Rachel Casey (00:37:32):
I,

Rachel Casey (00:37:32):
I say that just to give a cushion of if someone did reach out to me and they're

Rachel Casey (00:37:37):
like,

Rachel Casey (00:37:37):
but you said on the podcast,

Rachel Casey (00:37:39):
you know,

Rachel Casey (00:37:39):
I'm like,

Rachel Casey (00:37:40):
okay,

Rachel Casey (00:37:41):
if I can 100%,

Rachel Casey (00:37:41):
I will,

Rachel Casey (00:37:43):
I've,

Rachel Casey (00:37:44):
I've literally stopped to take a call during coaching my son's soccer game.

Rachel Casey (00:37:49):
And again,

Rachel Casey (00:37:50):
and I took the minute I did my,

Rachel Casey (00:37:53):
I'm going to connect to you and I will a hundred percent stop the world to help.

Rachel Casey (00:37:58):
And I think anyone in recovery is that way.

Rachel Casey (00:38:00):
That's not just me.

Rachel Casey (00:38:01):
That is anyone who's been in those lows of lows in the feeling of addiction.

Rachel Casey (00:38:08):
Once they have time in sobriety, they're like,

Rachel Casey (00:38:12):
Anyone who's just curious, you're like, oh my God, it's like a secret.

Rachel Casey (00:38:14):
It's like, yes, no, no, no.

Rachel Casey (00:38:16):
It's like, but it's not a secret, but there is shame.

Rachel Casey (00:38:18):
And I think shame's what kind of makes it that secret.

Rachel Casey (00:38:22):
Yeah.

(00:38:23):
Yeah.

Rachel Casey (00:38:24):
Man, could you imagine like Michael Scott running a treatment center?

Brenton Sconce (00:38:28):
Oh man,

Brenton Sconce (00:38:29):
that would be,

Brenton Sconce (00:38:30):
it would probably,

Brenton Sconce (00:38:32):
yeah,

Brenton Sconce (00:38:33):
it would be probably the most successful treatment center in the world.

Rachel Casey (00:38:36):
Yeah.

Rachel Casey (00:38:37):
Like he's just like the, the world's best alcoholic.

Rachel Casey (00:38:41):
right he got the mug and everything that would be i love the world's best boss um

Rachel Casey (00:38:47):
yes well okay so what in the fact he bought it for himself yeah yeah exactly um

Rachel Casey (00:38:54):
like uh the jamaica trip would be a fun episode too of him coming back of like

Rachel Casey (00:38:59):
talking about all the meetings out there and instead like yeah uh except i think he

Rachel Casey (00:39:04):
brought back i'll call him that one it doesn't matter again

Brenton Sconce (00:39:07):
Yeah, he did.

Brenton Sconce (00:39:07):
He brought, yeah, he brought back rum for one of the gifts.

Brenton Sconce (00:39:10):
Yeah.

Brenton Sconce (00:39:11):
Yeah.

Rachel Casey (00:39:11):
And I laugh at stuff like that too.

Rachel Casey (00:39:13):
Cause even watching it on TV,

Rachel Casey (00:39:16):
watching someone get gifted that I'm like,

Rachel Casey (00:39:18):
it would have been gone that night.

Rachel Casey (00:39:19):
They're like when people are like, oh yeah, I'll just save this.

Rachel Casey (00:39:23):
Like it was someone recently,

Rachel Casey (00:39:25):
we just talked about when we see someone has a mini bar at home and we're like,

Rachel Casey (00:39:29):
how do you keep it stocked?

Brenton Sconce (00:39:30):
Like, yeah.

Brenton Sconce (00:39:31):
Okay.

Brenton Sconce (00:39:31):
Yeah.

Brenton Sconce (00:39:32):
I'm the same way.

Brenton Sconce (00:39:33):
Like it blows my mind.

Brenton Sconce (00:39:34):
Like, oh yeah.

Brenton Sconce (00:39:35):
Go places.

Brenton Sconce (00:39:36):
And there'll be like,

Brenton Sconce (00:39:37):
I mean, anything like that.

Brenton Sconce (00:39:39):
a wine cabinet like a mini bar like any of that i'm like so you they just like sits

Brenton Sconce (00:39:43):
there like you know you don't think about it all the time yeah it's a while yeah uh

Brenton Sconce (00:39:50):
but yeah there's that one um and then the other with the office when it's the

Brenton Sconce (00:39:54):
christmas party and he's like oh my god you think this is enough to get 15 people

Brenton Sconce (00:39:58):
plastered and it's like 15 bottles like 15 uh you know half gallons of vodka and

Brenton Sconce (00:40:03):
the but the the worker guy's delivery is like so good he's just like

Brenton Sconce (00:40:08):
15 bottles of vodka?

Brenton Sconce (00:40:09):
Yeah, that should do it.

Rachel Casey (00:40:11):
That didn't even stay.

Rachel Casey (00:40:12):
Oh, yeah.

Rachel Casey (00:40:12):
And I think that's one where, yeah, I was like, to me, I'm like, is that enough?

Rachel Casey (00:40:17):
Like, that's like one per person.

Rachel Casey (00:40:20):
So, okay, like, I guess.

Brenton Sconce (00:40:22):
Well, Meredith does catch her hair on fire in that episode.

Rachel Casey (00:40:25):
No, that's fine.

Rachel Casey (00:40:26):
She looks like she was, oh yeah, because she also has the alcoholic.

Rachel Casey (00:40:29):
And the way that they do it in that episode,

Rachel Casey (00:40:32):
probably not the best way to like call someone out,

Rachel Casey (00:40:35):
but they are semi-supportive.

Rachel Casey (00:40:36):
But that is not what it will be like if you tell someone you have a problem.

Rachel Casey (00:40:41):
It's usually pretty kept under.

Rachel Casey (00:40:44):
And honestly,

Rachel Casey (00:40:45):
the one thing I think in recovery I found out is not as many people care as I

Rachel Casey (00:40:49):
thought.

Rachel Casey (00:40:50):
And, you know, we have this lie that we tell ourselves with the alcohol that like,

Rachel Casey (00:40:55):
this attention everyone's gonna know people listen people don't yeah that is the

Rachel Casey (00:41:01):
that is the the ego that's everything that comes with that and again these are

Rachel Casey (00:41:06):
things you learn after getting sober or you already know uh i don't i don't even

Rachel Casey (00:41:10):
know who's listening other than i do know my mom listens and yeah actually i don't

Rachel Casey (00:41:15):
even know i think she's watched the office i'm like i don't know i watched that

Rachel Casey (00:41:21):
Like,

Rachel Casey (00:41:21):
cause I was old enough that it,

Rachel Casey (00:41:22):
that was like something I watched that in my early or my late teens,

Rachel Casey (00:41:26):
early twenties.

Rachel Casey (00:41:27):
But anyways, it's just, I think that's a classic.

Rachel Casey (00:41:30):
It never goes out of style.

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Yeah.

Rachel Casey (00:41:31):
What's the best way for people to connect with you?

Rachel Casey (00:41:34):
So you have the office, but I'm very intrigued by the, the bear crawl.

Brenton Sconce (00:41:38):
The name of the race is the Bloomsday run or Bloomsday race.

Rachel Casey (00:41:42):
That's going to be your focus now.

Rachel Casey (00:41:43):
Kind of right.

Rachel Casey (00:41:43):
For the next year.

Brenton Sconce (00:41:45):
Yeah.

Brenton Sconce (00:41:45):
I mean,

Brenton Sconce (00:41:45):
I'll do,

Brenton Sconce (00:41:46):
I'll,

Brenton Sconce (00:41:46):
I'll still do both office recovery and,

Brenton Sconce (00:41:48):
and Bloomsday,

Brenton Sconce (00:41:49):
but definitely focus will shift a little bit towards the Bloomsday over the next

Brenton Sconce (00:41:52):
year.

Brenton Sconce (00:41:52):
But yeah, so easiest way to get ahold of me is Instagram from my Instagram page.

Brenton Sconce (00:41:57):
You can find my emails and stuff like that to contact me,

Brenton Sconce (00:41:59):
but it's just at office recovery is kind of the main hub.

Brenton Sconce (00:42:03):
And then at the Bloomsday bear crawl is the other one.

Brenton Sconce (00:42:07):
And it's just, that's probably the easiest way or on Facebook, same thing.

Brenton Sconce (00:42:10):
You just search Bloomsday bear crawl.

Brenton Sconce (00:42:12):
or Office Recovery and I'm on there as well.

Rachel Casey (00:42:15):
I will have those links in the bio too.

Rachel Casey (00:42:17):
So that way people can easily find it and click on it.

Rachel Casey (00:42:21):
People are all about, again, we talk about that.

Rachel Casey (00:42:23):
You got to get that window.

Rachel Casey (00:42:25):
You got to make it easy.

Rachel Casey (00:42:27):
I don't want to have to do a lot of clicks.

Rachel Casey (00:42:28):
So I make sure it's all in the show notes and it's all able to be accessed.

Rachel Casey (00:42:32):
Yeah.

Rachel Casey (00:42:34):
And there's merch too that you're selling and is the best way you can just go

Rachel Casey (00:42:37):
through the Instagram site and get,

Rachel Casey (00:42:40):
how do you purchase merch?

Brenton Sconce (00:42:42):
Yeah, I've got a link in my bio for office recovery.

Brenton Sconce (00:42:45):
And then I've got merch coming probably in June for the Bloomsday Bear Crawl as well.

Brenton Sconce (00:42:50):
So sweet hats like this, t-shirts like this, and a bunch of other stuff.

Brenton Sconce (00:42:54):
Colin and I will be getting one.

Brenton Sconce (00:42:55):
So yeah.

Brenton Sconce (00:42:56):
And the great thing about that too is proceeds from all those,

Brenton Sconce (00:42:59):
all the merch is going to go right into the donation funds.

Brenton Sconce (00:43:02):
So

Brenton Sconce (00:43:02):
But yeah, so that's coming.

Brenton Sconce (00:43:04):
But yeah, you can get, I've got world's best sober mugs.

Brenton Sconce (00:43:07):
I've got a bunch of t-shirts and some that are like blatantly recovery related.

Brenton Sconce (00:43:12):
And then also some that are a lot more subtle that,

Brenton Sconce (00:43:15):
you know,

Brenton Sconce (00:43:15):
if you're just listening to this and,

Brenton Sconce (00:43:17):
and you just like kind of inspirational,

Brenton Sconce (00:43:19):
funny stuff,

Brenton Sconce (00:43:20):
there's stuff there for you too.

Brenton Sconce (00:43:22):
So just Instagram page and then click the link on the bio and,

Brenton Sconce (00:43:25):
and you'll make your way to my shop.

Rachel Casey (00:43:27):
I can also put the link for the shop in there too.

Rachel Casey (00:43:29):
So I'll make sure that it's, but, uh, it's always great to know too.

Rachel Casey (00:43:32):
You can start Instagram.

Rachel Casey (00:43:33):
I think even like link trees and whatnot,

Rachel Casey (00:43:35):
but there's Instagram's been better about adding more links.

Rachel Casey (00:43:39):
So, well, also I'm so grateful that you came on the podcast today.

Rachel Casey (00:43:42):
Like you have such great information to share, very relatable in this charity.

Rachel Casey (00:43:48):
I'm so excited to kind of watch that grow.

Rachel Casey (00:43:50):
And, uh, are people going to be like a part of it in person in June, or is there going to be.

Rachel Casey (00:43:56):
Like for the actual bear crawl, are people coming to watch or you haven't figured that out?

Brenton Sconce (00:44:00):
I mean, I don't know.

Brenton Sconce (00:44:01):
That would be kind of fun to do is to invite folks out to the race just to go with me.

Brenton Sconce (00:44:06):
I have had zero, zero responses on folks that want to bear crawl it with me.

Rachel Casey (00:44:11):
It's a hard thing, right?

Rachel Casey (00:44:12):
Like I'm seven miles.

Brenton Sconce (00:44:16):
7.46 miles.

Brenton Sconce (00:44:16):
Yeah.

Brenton Sconce (00:44:17):
So it's a 12K on your hands and feet the whole way with like crazy elevation changes.

Brenton Sconce (00:44:22):
I've asked a handful of folks to bear crawl it with me and everyone has given a very quick no.

Brenton Sconce (00:44:27):
That's totally okay.

Brenton Sconce (00:44:29):
But I'm going to have like live feeds up as it's going.

Brenton Sconce (00:44:33):
And yeah,

Brenton Sconce (00:44:33):
I mean,

Brenton Sconce (00:44:34):
if people want to,

Brenton Sconce (00:44:35):
you know,

Brenton Sconce (00:44:35):
show up and support in person,

Brenton Sconce (00:44:37):
that would be great.

Brenton Sconce (00:44:38):
And then, you know, I don't know where this thing's going to go.

Brenton Sconce (00:44:40):
If it becomes like an annual thing, I think that'd be super fun.

Brenton Sconce (00:44:43):
I think it'd be fun to do like

Brenton Sconce (00:44:45):
have recovery people each do a mile or do half a mile or a quarter mile or

Brenton Sconce (00:44:49):
something like that,

Brenton Sconce (00:44:50):
do stations like that,

Brenton Sconce (00:44:52):
you know,

Brenton Sconce (00:44:52):
and do,

Brenton Sconce (00:44:52):
but do the same kind of thing and raise funds again.

Brenton Sconce (00:44:54):
And so there's a whole, whole bunch of different ways we can go with it right now.

Brenton Sconce (00:44:58):
I'm just focused on this year,

Brenton Sconce (00:44:59):
you know,

Brenton Sconce (00:45:00):
training for it,

Brenton Sconce (00:45:01):
getting,

Brenton Sconce (00:45:01):
getting it done and,

Brenton Sconce (00:45:03):
and just raising as much as possible to help,

Brenton Sconce (00:45:06):
help folks.

Brenton Sconce (00:45:07):
So yeah, all that informational will be coming out more on the fundraising side in, in June.

Brenton Sconce (00:45:13):
and uh and for now yeah just if anyone's listening to this follow the the bloomsday

Brenton Sconce (00:45:17):
bear crawl share it just get the word out as much as possible it will be donations

Brenton Sconce (00:45:21):
will be open for both corporate sponsorship as well as individual donations so if

Brenton Sconce (00:45:27):
you also know of an organization that kind of vibes with that mission i'm looking

Brenton Sconce (00:45:32):
for corporate sponsors i will do marketing for you i'll wear your gear uh as i

Brenton Sconce (00:45:36):
crawl you know things like that to help promote your company

Brenton Sconce (00:45:39):
So I'd love to do like a company a mile and I'll just switch out at every mile

Brenton Sconce (00:45:44):
marker and,

Brenton Sconce (00:45:46):
you know,

Brenton Sconce (00:45:46):
rep a new company,

Brenton Sconce (00:45:47):
get you some publicity.

Rachel Casey (00:45:48):
It's for a good cause.

Rachel Casey (00:45:50):
It's helping.

Rachel Casey (00:45:51):
Yeah.

Rachel Casey (00:45:52):
I mean, I don't think you're going to have to.

Rachel Casey (00:45:54):
have to sell people on it too much.

Rachel Casey (00:45:56):
It's,

Rachel Casey (00:45:57):
I think the people that will vibe with you will happily help because again,

Rachel Casey (00:46:02):
it's the silver,

Rachel Casey (00:46:03):
we got to stick together.

Rachel Casey (00:46:04):
Like that's how we do recover.

(00:46:06):
So yeah.

Rachel Casey (00:46:08):
And it's really cool that you're doing something like that.

Rachel Casey (00:46:10):
You also receive.

Rachel Casey (00:46:11):
So you're like, literally this isn't,

Rachel Casey (00:46:14):
some you're you're not see you're seeing one of the results of this so like

Rachel Casey (00:46:17):
literally close to home and you can speak to it and i think it doesn't even

Rachel Casey (00:46:23):
probably doesn't feel like a fundraiser when you believe in it that closely because

Rachel Casey (00:46:28):
it's not work to say you know it's going for a really good cause so again i'm

Rachel Casey (00:46:32):
excited to share i'm excited to watch if sober banter takes off we will totally

Rachel Casey (00:46:36):
jump in

Rachel Casey (00:46:38):
I know individual wise, but as corporate wise.

Rachel Casey (00:46:41):
So, um, well, this has been great.

Rachel Casey (00:46:43):
Thank you so much again for coming on and thank you to anyone listening to sober

Rachel Casey (00:46:47):
banter and listening to the man behind the office recovery and the bear crawl.

Rachel Casey (00:46:53):
So stay tuned for more.

Rachel Casey (00:46:55):
And thank you.