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Seth Holehouse is a TV personality, YouTuber, podcaster, and patriot who became a household name in 2020 after his video exposing election fraud was tweeted, shared, uploaded, and pinned by President Donald Trump — reaching hundreds of millions worldwide.
Titled The Plot to Steal America, the video was created with a mission to warn Americans about the communist threat to our nation—a mission that’s been at the forefront of Seth’s life for nearly two decades.
After 10 years behind the scenes at The Epoch Times, launching his own show was the logical next step. Since its debut, Seth’s show “Man in America” has garnered 1M+ viewers on a monthly basis as his commitment to bring hope to patriots and to fight communism and socialism grows daily. His guests have included Peter Navarro, Kash Patel, Senator Wendy Rogers, General Michael Flynn, and General Robert Spalding.
He is also a regular speaker at the “ReAwaken America Tour” alongside Eric Trump, Mike Lindell, Gen. Flynn.
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Man in America. I'm your host, Seth Holehouse. If we look back over the past couple of years during this pandemic, one thing that I can say I've certainly seen as a result of this is the changing of people's minds, the changing of people close to me and their ability to rationally process events, to hear a different opinion on what's happening in the world. And I've tried to understand a lot of the reasons behind this. Was it mass formations, you know, mass psychosis?
Seth Holehouse:Is it the damage from the mRNA shots? Or, you know, what is it? And so joining me today is a doctor. My his name is doctor Michael Nels. And he recently wrote this book.
Seth Holehouse:I'll I'll pull this up for you. He recently wrote this book called The Indoctrinated Brain. And I'm just gonna I'm gonna read the first few paragraphs that that came in kind of describing this because it's such an important topic. And this has been one of the most one of my favorite interviews I've done in a long time actually. Let me read a little bit of this.
Seth Holehouse:The indoctrinated brain, how to successfully fend off the global attack on your mental freedom. Says the global war on the human brain. Throughout the world, mental capacity is declining, especially among young people, while depression rates are rising dramatically. Meanwhile, one in forty men and women suffers from Alzheimer's and the age of onset is falling rapidly. But the causes are not being eliminated quite the opposite.
Seth Holehouse:This is just a coincidence. The indoctrinated brain introduces a largely unknown powerful neurobiological mechanism whose externally induced dysfunction underlies these catastrophic developments. Doctor. Michael Nels, medical doctor and internationally renowned molecular geneticist, lays out a shattering chain of circumstantial evidence indicating that behind these numerous negative influences lies a targeted masterfully executed attack on our individuality. He points out how the raging wars against viruses, climate change, or over national borders are more likely intended than not, fundamentally providing the platform for such an offensive against the human brain that is steadily changing our being and is aimed at depriving us of our ability to think for ourselves.
Seth Holehouse:So this is just it's fascinating because Michael Nell, Doctor. Michael Nells is someone who'd studied before the pandemic, Alzheimer's and what causes the degeneration of our brain, our inability to form new memories, our inability to access previous memories. But then once the pandemic started, he saw all of the mechanisms that would cause people to lose their ability to basically enter into a state of having Alzheimer's where they're suggestible to whatever the current message is. He saw all of those exact same mechanisms being put in place on a global scale. And it was so coincidental that it could not have been a coincidence.
Seth Holehouse:It was absolutely planned. And so the discussion we're getting into is looking at what was done, what were the mechanisms used to basically rewrite the programming of the human mind and turn people in from rational, thoughtful, empathetic people into, you could almost say, a zombie, where they're driven by fear, they're driven by virtue signaling, they're driven by these very base human emotions, and they're in they have an inability to accept new information. So when you go to them and you say, hey, you shouldn't get that third booster. It's bad for this reason. They lash out at you.
Seth Holehouse:What causes that behavior? And so Doctor. Nels can explain exactly what causes that, but more importantly, how to reverse it. And this is what I think is so beautiful about this discussion that we're gonna make it into is that it's full of solutions. Because even me, I've been someone that has, I think, also been a target for this psychological operation.
Seth Holehouse:And though I've seen through a lot of the propaganda, I've certainly dealt with fear and anxiety and worry, a lack of curiosity, a lack of vision for the future amidst this this past couple of years. So these techniques and these basic family of formulas that he has are so incredibly important and so easy to implement. So folks, I hope that you enjoy this interview with Doctor. Michael Nells as much as I did. Michael, it is such an honor to have you on the show.
Seth Holehouse:Thank you so much for joining us today.
Speaker 2:I'm very much pleased to have you that you have me. Thank you very much. Absolutely.
Seth Holehouse:So I saw a recent interview you did with Mike Adams, who's a good friend, and I I follow a lot of what he does. I think he's got a very brilliant perspective on what's happening, and he gets excellent guests like yourself. And when we look back at the pandemic, you know, the plandemic, one of the the aspects of it that's fascinated me the most is the psychology of it. How, you know, people, whether you will look at through the mass formation idea or other different, you know, principles of understanding it, how so many people I feel like lost their ability to reason. They lost their ability to think rationally.
Seth Holehouse:They people that, you know, before buying a new toy for their kid would spend probably a day researching and watching videos and reading Amazon reviews, rushed out to get a vaccine that was rushed to market and did no research. This blindly followed. And so I've been looking into trying to understand the psychology of why that has been. But when I heard your interview with Mike Adams, and I've since ordered your book, I'm working on that, which I'll bring up multiple times throughout our discussion, the indoctrinated brain. The information you presented, I think really helped to understand not just on a psychological level, but on a physiological level, how these, this, these elites, this entity that's trying to control this world, have actually gone beyond just psychology and tapped into the physiology of how the brain works to rewrite our ability to think and to form memories and everything.
Seth Holehouse:So why don't you go and just introduce the the fundamental ideas behind your research and what you've come to? Because it's it's such important information to discuss right now.
Speaker 2:Yeah. My research started actually a decade ago when I dived into the issue of Alzheimer's disease is actually caused by aging, or is it just collaterals, essentially damage that age is just the requirement based on the disease takes time to develop, or is it really the cause? And what I found out with studying thousands of publications is that the autobiographical memory actually has the ability to restore its function or for the whole lifetime. And that certain nerve cells, call them index neurons, that trim are are instrumental that we can essentially reason the whole life or create new memories without even forgetting the past. So we can, with our autobiographical memory, which actually has a size of anatomically of a seahorse, that's why it's called hippocampus, that the hippocampus actually grows with our wealth of experience, and that's evolutionary concept that is ingrained in our brain and genetics.
Speaker 2:So Alzheimer's is actually a cause of a lifestyle that is adverse to our natural needs. And that's also the reason that with every year that culture develops away from our cultural needs that we are more or less not human in the kind of what nature expects us to do, that we we lose our ability to grow the hippocampus. And this growth of the hippocampus actually is called adult hippocampal neurogenesis. That means adult, even it's the only region in the brain that can produce new nerve cells through our whole life, actually in the 80 year old, as efficient as in the 18 year old, and that these nerve cells essentially produced in the hippocampus and the neurogenesis just refers to a neuron, nerve cells and genesis their production. And adult hippocampal neurogenesis is important that we generate that we are able to to to generate new memories without overwriting past memories so that our wealth of experience grows the whole lifetime.
Speaker 2:And these nerve cells have have additional functions which I found out. One function is that they are essentially the neuronal correlate of curiosity. They are also the neuronal correlate of our psychological resilience. That means with the high production rate, we are curious, we are less fearful, and we are eager to learn. And learning is what our brain wants to do, because that's the treasure of our experience is what makes us surviving in different situations.
Speaker 2:So I call actually the hippocampus, and in particular, the adult hippocampal neurogenesis, our mental immune system.
Seth Holehouse:I see. So So let me just jump in really quickly just to make sure that I understand Sure. How you're describing. So our autobiographical memory, as I understand it from listening to you, is it's basically the autobiographical that we're constantly we're we're writing our own autobiography in our brain at all times. We're cataloging our memories, our identity of who we are, the understanding of the world around us.
Seth Holehouse:And that that
Speaker 2:Our vitality and everything. Yeah.
Seth Holehouse:So that primarily takes place in the hippocampus. Right? This which is this small seahorse type type area of the brain that you say is the only brain that throughout our lives can actually regenerate these new cells. Right? So as we create new memories and everything so that this becomes, as I understand, such an important part of the human brain and human psychology because the health, whether it's positive or negative of that I'm guessing of the hippocantus.
Seth Holehouse:Is it is it hippocantus? How do you pronounce it?
Speaker 2:Hippocantus. Yeah.
Seth Holehouse:Hippocantus.
Speaker 2:Actually, I have to ask you to how to pronounce it because it's English. I know how to pronounce it in Germany and in German, but I I think it's hippocampus.
Seth Holehouse:Okay.
Speaker 2:Let's let's assume it's strange to write
Seth Holehouse:that
Speaker 2:Let's
Seth Holehouse:assume it's that, and and people can correct us in the comments. Basically, that that area of the hippocampus becomes probably one of the most important parts of the brain for a human being, because that's where we remember. So say I'm an 80 year old person, that's what allows me to remember my my life. Remember the life lessons, the wisdom I've learned over those life lessons. And so say I'm trying to guide my grandchildren or my children.
Seth Holehouse:It's so important to have access to that that catalog of memory that creates the world around me. Right? Is that is that and I'm assuming that the health of the hippocampus determines whether like all I'm assuming that Alzheimer's is the the decline in health of the hippocampus. Right? It's it means that you're no longer able to form new memories and no longer able to access past memories.
Seth Holehouse:So I just wanna make sure that I'm on the same page with you in terms of the the physiology of this discussion.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Absolutely. You understood it completely. You're correct. I actually published a paper, a peer reviewed paper in 02/2016 called the unified theory of Alzheimer's disease where I show that the lack of production based on our not so, I would say, nature connected lifestyle that we don't understand that hippocampus and epic growth in our body has some requirements.
Speaker 2:And if we don't fulfill them, then the growth is impeded. And then certain things happen. First of all, our memory starts to get frail. Second, and most important maybe, we lose our curiosity, we don't learn new things, and we are afraid of new things. And being afraid means that everything that happens to us, which in under normal conditions, natural conditions would be an advantage to learn new things, become frightening, and the stress hormone levels go up, and the combination of high stress hormone levels and the fear we experience leads to actually a shrinkage of the hippocampus.
Speaker 2:So instead of a growth rate that might be two, three or 4% per year, we actually in our modern societies, the hippocampus shrinks. And the shrinking is not only the cause of Alzheimer's disease that I've shown, it's also the cause of depression. And if you look back in 2019, the depression rates according to the World Health Organization were the highest ever recorded. That means the mental immune system of humanity was the lowest ever.
Seth Holehouse:Hey folks, I've got a quick message for you. So I'm sure you've heard a lot of people, myself included, talking about the importance of buying precious metals, gold and silver. But what's really behind that? Is it just a thing of, hey, buy this gold, buy this silver. Right?
Seth Holehouse:Or is there something deeper that we should be looking at? So I recently came across some figures about house prices. So in 1930, the average family home was approximately $4,000. Fast forward to 2023, the average family home is just over $400,000. So you have to ask yourself, why is that?
Seth Holehouse:Is it because things have just gotten more expensive? No, it's actually because the dollar has lost 99% of its value since 1930. Right? When people talk about the collapse the dollar or inflation, this is what it means. Now, let's take a look at gold.
Seth Holehouse:So in 1930, if you wanted to purchase your home in gold, it would take approximately 200 gold coins. So 200 gold coins would purchase the average family home in 1930, about $4,000. Now, if you instead of buying a home with that gold or cash, you set those aside. If you set aside $4,000 in cash in 1930, it would be worth $4,000 today. What can you buy with $4,000?
Seth Holehouse:Can you buy a family home? No, you can't even buy a crappy used car. But if you set aside $4,000 worth of gold coins in 1930, which is 200 gold coins, 1 ounce coins, that would be worth approximately $400,000 today. And this is the key lesson about precious metals. It's not about getting rich.
Seth Holehouse:It's about putting your money into an asset that protects you against inflation and against the destruction of the currency, which is what happens to all fiat currencies, especially now we're in the end days of the dollar. And so that's why it's important, maybe not all of your money, but a portion of your money, a portion of what you have, I highly recommend putting it into precious metals of gold and silver because what it's doing is it's protecting you. This is an asset that has stood the test of time, not just stood the test of time since the 1930s, we're talking about the rise and fall of civilizations. Gold was used to buy houses back in ancient Rome. It's still around.
Seth Holehouse:It's an asset that will forever have its value. So folks, if you want to do this and you need someone you can trust, there's no person I can recommend more than Doctor. Kirk Elliott. He's a very good friend of mine. He's a strong Christian patriot, and he's out to really help people to protect their savings and what you've worked for against the destruction of the dollar, not to mention also protecting it against the dangers of a central bank digital currencies.
Seth Holehouse:So to learn more about this, go to goldwithseth.com or call (720) 605-3900. Again, that's goldwithseth.com or (720) 605-3900. Both those places will allow you to set up a quick appointment where you can talk to a wealth advisor that will help get you started on this path. Again, goldwithseth.com, 7 2 0 6 0 5 3 9 0 zero.
Speaker 2:The depression rates according to the World Health Organization were the highest ever recorded. That means the mental immune system of humanity was the lowest ever. That's one thing. And also, of course, the other clinical feature in the long run that we actually develop Alzheimer's disease was also on an all time high. So in summer twenty nineteen, it was published, I think it was Lancet, that the Alzheimer's rates were so high that it was the third leading what, the third leading cause of death in Europe and also in The Americas.
Speaker 2:So the in other terms, in other words, the production rate of new nerve cells in the hippocampus, that means the basis for our mental immune system was down. And the consequences, of course, were even worse when I realized what was happening in 2020, because I have produced or published a against Alzheimer's, which is also a formula against depression or a formula for a strong ability to make judgments and to be curious. This formula has certain features. It requires certain things from us that what nature requires from us, that we are mentally healthy. And when I realized what was going on in 2020, I realized that everything that was done to us, the lockdowns, the unsocial distancing, and so forth, essentially reduce the ability of the percumbers to grow new cells to an even higher level.
Speaker 2:So it was clear to me that the depression rates will soar from the all time high in 2019, I expected an even greater increase. That means a greater damage to the hippocampus, and that's exactly what happened. So in America, there was a study which showed that, for example, in 02/2020, the depression rates from the all time high in 02/2019 tripled. Tripled. And the Alzheimer's rate here in Germany was shown by the German Alzheimer's Society.
Speaker 2:The last poll was in 2018 and was compared to the end of twenty twenty one. And in 'twenty one, the Alzheimer's rate was rising thirty one percent compared to 2018. New cases. And not only that, it wasn't only that thirty one percent more new cases in just three years, which you cannot argue as a result of an aging society, because we didn't age by thirty one percent in three years, But also, usually the cutoff year for Alzheimer's is like sixty five years plus. But this time, the recording or the study showed that over one hundred thousand cases in Germany, that's a third of all of yeah, almost a fourth of all the cases were below the 65.
Speaker 2:So we have an acceleration of the Alzheimer's process, and this is exactly what I have predicted, and and it got even worse. In 02/2021, I realized that the injection program of the mRNA was essentially doing the same harm to the hippocampus, and it was not something I was surprised because it was already clear, and I published this in my paper in unified theory in 2016, that chronic inflammation of the brain is essentially the major factor blocking the adult hippocampal neurogenesis. So it's actually good in a sense, if you have an inflammation and acute infection, it actually makes sense that you lose curiosity, that you don't want to be with others, that you withdraw, that you have kind of a depression situation, a depressive situation where you want to be on your own because first of all, going in your to stay in your bed is not bad, not moving around because it helps you to overcome the infection. Also, you don't infect others. But if the infection becomes chronic, we know this from borreliosis, for example, and now, of course, the brain gets infected, in a sense, with the spike protein, in particular with the S1 subunit of the spike protein, the brain immune cells essentially cannot differentiate between the virus and the spike protein.
Speaker 2:The spike protein signals that there is a virus. Even if there are no virus, it reacts as if there were viruses. So it it it alarms essentially the the brain and and and by by producing an immense amount of pro inflammatory cytokines. And these cytokines, for example, interleukin one is one of the most potent inhibitors of adult hippocampal neurogenesis. So if you really want to essentially attack a society, you want essentially harm their mental immune system.
Speaker 2:And what I realized is that by the measures in 2020, and then the follow-up activities with a global injection program the modified spike protein, which has the ability to cross the blood brain barrier, besides the lipid nanoparticles, which the packaging of the mRNA, which was also already shown, it across the blood brain barrier as well. In a sense, they were developed to do that, but the furine cleavage site, which produces the S1 spike protein, the S1 subunit of the spike protein, makes this particular portion of this bi protein, which stimulates the immune cells to produce interleukin-one, makes it very efficient to transverse the blood brain barrier. And so the immune cells think there's now a large infection going on, and they produce these interleukins, and they produce it as long as the spike subunit is present in the brain. And it's probably present for many, many months, maybe even for a year, And with the agenda to inject people on a yearly basis, essentially, we have a permanent presence of the of a of a, yeah, of a toxin in the brain, which stimulates neuroinflammation and blocks neurogenesis and essentially blocks the mental immune system.
Seth Holehouse:So basically
Speaker 2:But that's even all. It gets even worse.
Seth Holehouse:Okay. I'll I'll I'll wanna I'll let you continue. I just wanna frame my understanding No. No. We come
Speaker 2:back to that.
Seth Holehouse:So basically I will not forget. Before the the pandemic had started, you were already studying the hippocampus and the production of of memories and what causes Alzheimer's, what causes depression, and you developed an an understanding that, okay, this is the formula that attacks the hippocampus and the ability for a brain to be healthy and and makes it unhealthy. And you also understood, okay, these are the different components that make it healthy, and it will lead to someone not having Alzheimer's and has a healthy brain and curiosity. And then when the pandemic hit, you realized that everything that they were doing with that, the fear, the isolation of lockdowns, closing down of public parks, so you can't get sunlight and fresh air the way you used to. You can't interact with family.
Seth Holehouse:You saw that they were almost formulaically doing everything that would be needed if your goal was to shut down people's ability to think for themselves and to form positive memories and whatnot. But then you also, witnessing the rollout of the vaccine program, saw that that took that same agenda of destroying that part of the people's brains, and it accelerated it and made people even more, I'm sure, susceptible to the government messages, the inability to think for themselves. So basically that what you realize through this if if to, you know, draw the conclusion is almost as if a big part of this pandemic agenda was to literally turn people into zombies that couldn't think for themselves, and that would just listen to whatever suggestion they received from Fauci or Tedros or whoever was giving them orders, right? So this you through the lens of your research, you see the the COVID pandemic as, I think, a of ways, fundamentally an attack on the human brain.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Absolutely. I mean, what the proponents of this whole agenda essentially tell us that the intention is to get into a post voting, post democratic society where we don't own anything, a big, great reset. Big and great. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Great reset. And what I realized is that the great reset, which is so antihuman, yeah, is so against human nature and the human culture that we can only accept it if be if beforehand, we do something like a great mental reset. It's almost like you you install a new operating system in society and into the brains of people. And it only works, you know, from computers. If you install a new operating system or computer, you have to erase the previous one.
Speaker 2:You have to reformat essentially the hard drive. Otherwise, the new instruction are in conflict with the former ones. And so you have to erase the memory of people, And this is exactly what that's going on. So it's not only that people are essentially without the index neuron production in a state in a zombie mode of state. And, actually, I like the word because not from a Hollywood type point of view, but the zombie mode is actually, or at least as I know, was introduced by a Nobel Prize winner, Francis Crick, And as you might know, in 02/2002, there was a Nobel Prize given to Daniel Kahneman.
Speaker 2:I don't know if I pronounce him correctly or pain man or whatever, but Daniel Kahneman, a psychologist, got a Nobel Prize discovering that we actually have two systems to react to our environment. One is the which is usually always active. It's it's called system one or the old system, and then there's a new system which might be very specific to humans or at least to higher animals which have a social life and can plan. And the planning system is called system two, allows us to rationalize and not just react. And this rational system two, as I have shown in a book I have written before, the indoctrinated brain.
Speaker 2:It's what's called the exhausted brain, and I'm just actually in the moment writing a paper for frontisor psychology to make this scientifically public what I've discovered. What I've shown in or what what I've shown in my book and I will show in this article is that the system one and the system two, the ability to really think and to step back and to reflect and change cause and to be curious, which is all part of it, is dependent on the production of the new nerve cells in the hippocampus. So if you are not able to produce new nerve cells based on measures, antisocial measures, and a lifestyle that is not fulfilling human nature's needs, and then of course, chronic infection stimulated by this S1 subunit, then you are actually kept in a permanent state of system one. And then coming back to Francis Trick who got the Nobel Prize for discovering DNA, he was on the search before he died to find the neuronal toilet for consciousness, and he published a seminal paper with with a friend, Koch, his name. And the two published a paper in nature nature neuroscience, and they call system one actually the zombie mode.
Speaker 2:Interesting. Yeah, because it's acting without being conscious about what you are doing, and so you are essentially kept without system two in a system one zombie like mode, and that's a very dangerous situation. And then, of course, you are prone. You cannot a word and think about what you are introduced to, so that the narratives hit you full force. But even worse, since the narratives come with lots of emotions usually, it's always the danger with these narratives, which they tell us is the nature of a world war, a nature of perma pandemics, nature, the danger of a world crisis based on climate change, all these things are always very, very fear propagated.
Speaker 2:So what the hippocampus has to do, you know, the hippocampus is a small, thumb like structure. It actually has to regenerate every night by uploading the information to the neocortex. This is the area under the which when you open the skull, the walnut you are seeing. It's a huge area of brain, and in this area of brain, an upload takes place every night so that the precompas is fresh in the morning for new memories. But a part of the information is retained.
Speaker 2:That's the the information about where did I learn something and when did I learn something. And the where and when are actually the space and time neurons, or the space neurons that actually Nobel Prize was given in 2014, I guess, but the key is the information of the brain, of the space and time neurons in connection are actually recording kind of an index of all the memories that are uploaded. So the index neurons essentially stay in the hippocampus and allow it to retrieve the information that has been uploaded in the night during the day, the next day, or the next year, allow us to remember to essentially put it back into our consciousness, whatever we experienced in the past. Now, index neurons, if you are going to become maybe 100, one hundred and 10 year olds, you have to form new index neurons all the time. That's what neurogenesis does.
Speaker 2:So if you plot neurogenesis and you you make the hippocampus learn new things despite the fact that there are no no new index neurons, then the only way to retain the information usually with information which comes along with a lot of in will inadvertently override preexisting index neurons.
Seth Holehouse:So this is fascinating because so someone I know that, you know, quite well used to be extremely anti vaccine, You know, wouldn't touch vaccines, was very proactive about fighting against the vaccine agenda, and would never take them, would never get them to, you know, her children, etcetera. But after the pandemic started, this person rushed off and got the vaccine, got the booster. And it was almost as if the entire programming, the entire system, that whole catalog of this is these are all the reasons why I don't trust vaccines. I don't trust big pharma. It all got rewritten.
Seth Holehouse:And now this person is someone that is extremely pro vaxx. And is and it was such a strange change to see that. And it but it makes perfect sense from what you're saying from the perspective that they've actually blocked people's abilities to access their previous memories and access all that information, and they they almost wiped that programming, wiped that, say, Windows two point o, and they installed Windows three point o, which is a system that they wrote. I mean, is that the right way of understanding it?
Speaker 2:Yeah, absolutely. The narrative, I call it the technocratic narratives, because it's a new technocratic world where people who have earned their living by technology, and dominate the world based on their wealth and their influence. This will be a society where these people can tell us what we have to think and what we have to believe, and people will believe because they have no choice. The brain essentially is infiltrated with this information, and the bad thing is it overrides the pre existing memories. As a consequence, the new narrative becomes their new personality.
Speaker 2:And you have experienced that probably as well as I did and many others. People you were able to rationalize about many things before this all happened are not open to any form of discussion. So whenever you raise an issue of what you've heard or what they have heard on television and say, well, it cannot be really true. Look at these numbers. I don't want to hear.
Speaker 2:I don't want to it's almost like you step on these people's toes because you you enter their their their space of their personality space because you really essentially not questioning the narrative. You're questioning the person itself.
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Seth Holehouse:Interesting. So before I I interrupted you when you're getting to to some part of the conversation talking about saying it gets worse, You're describing it. Yeah.
Speaker 2:That's what I meant was getting worse. We actually actually discussed it. What's getting worse is, you see, there were a lot of, let's say, yeah, trials in in human history where people, created a kind of governmental structures which were essentially not allowing the freedom of people. There were many such attempts in communism, in fascism, and many, many attempts. But always there was a national border somewhere where on the other side of the border, people lived a different life.
Speaker 2:So you had the ability to experience, even though the propaganda tried to shut it down, but you were always able to get some information out that on the other side of the fence, the world is different. But so humans learn from alternative views, but now with global aspect of what's happening, there is no other, there is no fence anymore. So the only fence you have is the fence to your past. The only way to compare what's going on with what was in former times, is this what was happening or what my life was in former times, but this is the only border that they have to overcome, and then this will be installed for eternity.
Seth Holehouse:So it's almost like if you look at North Korea versus South Korea, or you look at communist China versus, you know, some of the neighboring regions, that because I've I've I'm fascinated by communism and the psychology of communism and how they've been able to take over people. And one thing that I've learned through researching is that the control of the human mind is very important, which is why propaganda and information control is so important in a communist country for maintaining their power. So with, say, a communist country, say, Soviet Union, etcetera, one of the ways they maintain that power was really locking down information flow. Or say North Korea, they make it so that it's so difficult to get the information from South Korea or from The United States, and that's how they control that group. But if they they use geographical borders and troops and and very strict measures to control that particular region, but if they want to introduce a global communist system, there's no way they can put the entire world behind a border where they then control
Speaker 2:Or just
Seth Holehouse:disappear. Exactly. So for them to be able to do that, they have to bring that same all those same mechanisms of controlling a populace behind a particular border, and they have to then put that directly into people's brains all over the world. So communism becomes something not defined by a a border or geography. It becomes something defined by the programming that's in somebody's head, and that's how they can bring about global communism is through basically rewriting people's brains to be a brain that's controlled by a dictator instead of a brain that seeks freedom.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Absolutely. And the the only I talked about the mental immune system, and the mental immune system is our ability to draw information from our own past, not only from our own past, but also from experiences of others, because we learn from others. I mean, narratives are essentially nothing bad. I mean, we love to listen to stories of others.
Speaker 2:That's the beauty of the human mind is that we don't have to make all mistakes by our own. So we can learn from elders, for example, what they have done in the past, where they have made mistakes, and they tell us when we are kids, don't do that. I have made a mistake. Don't do the same mistake what I did. So we learn.
Speaker 2:We are learning machines, social learning machines, but this can be used against us because if you shut down neurogenesis in the hippocampus and the the narratives that you are exposed to are coming with fear, that meaning meaning you force the hippocampus to take over this map these informations as new memories, then you you use the strategy essentially against us. So what is actually an advantage turns into a disadvantage. And the mental immune system, it consists of our autobiographical memory. And if you destroy it, if you essentially use it to install essentially only one narrative, the narrative of the techno project dictatorship, whatever you want to call it, the great reset agenda, then these people who have been infiltrated this way can see only one future. I mean, you have to imagine if you are a person that believes in the narratives.
Speaker 2:I mean, not only believe, make the narratives to their personality, and the narratives only consist of fear and fear mongering, then what the solution for You know all the narratives have one thing in common. They're always global, global problems. So of course, if all these narratives tell you if it's pandemics, by nature is global, climate change is global, and of course, a third world war would be global. So in all these global dangers, no no single government will have the solution for you. So the if the infiltration of your brain with the narratives has been completed, then the majority of people will say, let's have a global government in whatever form.
Speaker 2:Give us, you know, our freedom by solving this problem, all these problems on a global level. And the funny thing is this is exactly what's happening. You know? We we install in all governments essentially the laws now that certain non governmental organizations, yeah, we know which ones they are, essentially get the power to, in these cases, if it's climate change or if it's pandemic, to actually act as our local government yeah, all over the world. And nobody essentially, not the majority at least in Germany here, and probably not in any country, is really doing something against it.
Speaker 2:Nobody says, hey, this cannot be correct. Cannot be correct that the private company, like the World Health Organization, tells us how we do have to behave in a pandemic or that we have to get all these injections or tell us that we are not allowed to drive around anymore because of climate problems. And so but we will essentially embrace as the majority of people will probably embrace such a development based on the installation of of the great reset program as narratives into their brain.
Seth Holehouse:And so what's interesting with this is if I look at my own self, I feel like I'm somebody that's very fervently rejected the Great Reset programming, but I don't think I've been immune to it. Because if I look at some of the things that you've described, that represent the attack on the hippocampus, depression, you know, lack of vision for the future, lack of creativity or curiosity. I've certainly gone through stages of experiencing that. And I think that when I've asked the people that are following the show through, you know, social media, how are you doing? And I see a lot of people are exhibiting the same indicators that would show that they've also undergone an attack.
Seth Holehouse:Even though they weren't programmed to the point that they're lining up to get the vaccine, they've still they've lost a positive vision of the future. They've lost a curiosity towards the world. Perhaps they've fallen into a place of thinking, gosh, well, we're gonna be in camps, you know, in the next couple of years, and we're gonna be starving to death. So so why bother? Right?
Seth Holehouse:And all of these things I think would represent a a depression and a depressed hippocampus, and the the struggle. And so I think that when I look at your your book, and we look at the subtitle to your book, which is how to successfully fend off the global attack on your mental freedom, it would be easy for us to think, well, that's that's gonna apply to the people that, you know, are have been brainwashed. But I think it's actually equally as important for myself and for you and for people that see through this to still understand how it might have affected us mentally, but also understand the various ways that we can rebuild and strengthen this hippocampus. And that's what I'm, that's what I wanna transition to in this discussion is how do we undo this? Even if we're awake to the narrative, we've still been under attack.
Seth Holehouse:Our vision, our curiosity has still been threatened and diminished. So what are the ways that we can undo this attack and strengthen our memory and our curiosity and our happiness and our sense of being?
Speaker 2:First of all, I think all yeah, people who watch our discussion here or or or exchange of ideas and thoughts still have a functioning hippocampus. Otherwise, they wouldn't be sitting on the on the on the on the computer or wherever they actually watch us. So first of all, these people, hello to all of you. I think all of you essentially have the ability to understand and to learn. And actually, if I look from my own point of view, I became even more curious of what's going on, not less, despite the fact that I, of course, was I'm fearful of what's going to happen.
Speaker 2:I'm not fearing climate change. I don't fear a pandemic, but I really fear is what's done to us, and I want to stop it. And that's why I wrote the book. I want to encourage everybody who listens to your show, to your interviews, that these people are still awake, and I don't like to have them just passive aggressive, just being grumbling about everything. We have to stand up now.
Speaker 2:We have to show that we are not a minority, and we are not. The funny thing is that the people who are in this zombie mode already, they follow the majority. And of course, the propaganda tells them what the majority is, where they have to run to. But practically speaking, I think we are actually a majority, or we can very easily be a majority. There's already known from the vaccination rates that over 20% didn't participate, At least here in Germany, don't think the numbers are different anywhere else.
Speaker 2:Not much at least. So there are already 20%, which is not a minority really of people because it's a sinking amount of people. These people are thinkers. They have maybe different ideas why they didn't participate, but they are at least they are thinking. They are not easily overcome by fear propaganda.
Speaker 2:So these people have, with this knowledge, also responsibility. This is why I wrote the book. I wrote the book because I realized I have a diagnosis, I'm an MD, you know, and I know from my medical profession that you cannot succeed in a therapy, at least not on purpose, maybe by accident, but not on purpose, when you don't know the diagnosis. And this book provides a diagnosis, and since I know where the battle takes place, it's against the neurogenesis of the hippocampus, I provide in my book a formula against indoctrination, which shows you how to strengthen the hippocampus, your own, but also how you can go ahead and convince others to strengthen their hippocampus and become more resilient. And this is what we have to do.
Speaker 2:And in the center of my formula against indoctrination, which is actually the same formula that is the formula against Alzheimer's disease, so even if we don't succeed to overcome the threat, which I actually believe we will, the book provides information how we can actually overcome the risk of getting Alzheimer's, which is not a bad thing either. But nevertheless, in the center of this formula is purpose in life.
Seth Holehouse:Folks, have a quick message for you. Look, the twenty twenty four election is do or die for the globalist and communists that had infiltrated our country and are currently running it, And they either have to win or they're going to destroy America so nothing is left either way. And if you're the person that's watching this show and following this information, unfortunately, you have the weight on your shoulders of making sure that your family is prepared, especially as we head in to this next year in this next election cycle because unfortunately, I think it's gonna get rough. And one of the ways I know they're going to target us is through our food supply. You can see all the food factories burned down, you can see the warnings of coming famines and food shortages and everything like that.
Seth Holehouse:And food is one of the number one ways totalitarian regimes have always used to control the populations destroy the food supply. So if you don't have at least two, three, four, five, six months worth of stored food, I highly recommend you take that very seriously. Because look, as I mentioned, if you're the person that's watching this, you're the person that carries the burden of making sure your family is prepared. I would recommend at least six months, if not a year of storable food. So if things go haywire, whether it's grid down or terrorist attack from what's coming across the border, that your family can safely stay in place and you can feed your family.
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Speaker 2:And as you remember in 2020, many people lost their purpose in life because of the shutdowns, of lockdowns, and that was part of the strategy that essentially inhibited hippocampal growth. We know that we need a sense of life, a purpose in life to do that. But based on the fact that we are aware of what's going on worldwide, we have to find a new purpose in life. I mean, we can have many, many different purposes in life. And of course, the main major purpose in life is to protect our families, and to to work and and and earn our money and and so forth, but we also can adopt another purpose in life, and that is fighting against this this mechanism that's going on, against the the fear propaganda and that we don't shut down.
Speaker 2:I mean, I remember in 2021 that my family, part of my family, not my core family, but a part of my family actually closed the door. They said, we have now these parties, the family, the birthdays, celebrations, and so forth, only for the vaccinated. Yeah? And so my core family, which didn't get the shots, were not invited anymore. But I can understand based on the diagnosis I provide in my book why this happened.
Speaker 2:And so I don't have any what's the right word? I'm not angry with them anymore. I was angry in the beginning, but now I realize it's not their fault, but we need all of them to change and to have a maturity against what's happening to us. And I realize now, with all the numbers and the people who have these very severe side effects, which are now more and more obvious to many that the numbers are changing. I mean, while many got the first shot, maybe the second and the third, but almost nobody gets the fourth shot here anymore in Germany.
Speaker 2:So they realize something bad was done to them, and with the right anti propaganda or anti narrative, a narrative that is based on our understanding what was going on, will help us to actually come out of this fight as maybe stronger than we ever were before. Because you have to remember, in 2019, the depression rates were higher than ever. That means we were living as a human society worldwide so far away from our natural needs, and almost no doctor told us that you're on the wrong path, quite contrary. But now we can learn and understand that the so called health system is actually disease causing system, and we have to change this completely. So I see actually a real advantage.
Speaker 2:The huge of the problem we overcome, in a sense, the better we come out of it at the end, and maybe we are better off at the end, better off than in before 2020 when we have solved the problem.
Seth Holehouse:And that's a really important point to what you mentioned about how even 2019 was already a peak in depression. So it's not like this just started in 2020, and that everything was perfect before then. I think that we've been primed for decades in advance for this this particular operation, this this giant global attack on us. I think that it's they spent decades getting us ready. The fear porn of the media, the the trusting the doctors that reinforce that the the mockery of alternative health treatments, etcetera.
Seth Holehouse:And so which is interesting, because I think that now from what I've seen with a lot of people, it's not just about getting back to what life was like in 2019. It's actually questioning and saying, where did it actually go off course? Like, think in America here, things really went off course in the sixties, which is when we had a lot of the the communist coming in through the the education system. It was supposed to, you know, the this is era of freedom and and the whole free love movement, I think, very communist in its roots. That's where a lot of the, I think, American society took a very sharp turn at that point, which started to lay the groundwork for this.
Seth Holehouse:And so, you you mentioned finding a purpose as being the the core of the the solution to preventing this brainwashing and to improving the health of our brain and our memory. And I agree with you that like everyone watching this show, that is aware of this information, like what greater of a purpose than to help our fellow man, our friends, our family that have been indoctrinated, even ourselves, what greater of a purpose than to help them see through that and to help protect our family from that in the future. And it does give me hope because people that I've seen that in twenty twenty, twenty one, twenty two became so closed off, they're now coming back to me. And they're saying, let's talk about that. I'm now open to hearing what you had to say.
Seth Holehouse:So it's not like the program that was installed in 2021 is a lifelong program. The brain is still fighting back against that. Their soul is still fighting to overcome that and to go back to being human again. And so in looking at so you mentioned the core being finding your purpose, which I agree with wholeheartedly, and that's what that's why I do what I do. But beyond that, what are some other components that that are that are simple things that people can start to look to do in their lives to help improve the health of their hippocampus, and really become, I think, a better version of themselves than even what they were in 2018 or 2019.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean, formula against indoctrination is, as I said, also a formula against Alzheimer's. And in my first book, which is called The Alzheimer's Lie, where I actually show that it's a lie told to us that Alzheimer's is inadvertently correlated and caused by aging, and that the only way to prevent Alzheimer's is suicide, know? I mean, it was so stupid, but I realized even then when I showed in a peer reviewed publication and later books I wrote, there was a lot of fight against that. People didn't want to I mean, particularly from the pharmaceutical industry. I mean, they earned a lot of money, but it's more than just earning money from Alzheimer's.
Speaker 2:Alzheimer's and all the depression is only the tip of an iceberg of a society not capable of essentially thinking for themselves. And when I realized that this is caused by a blockade of the adult hippocampal neurogenesis, I, of course, created this formula which shows what you need to do to activate it. And the funny thing is if you activate it early on in when Alzheimer's is essentially first diagnosed in the very, very early phase of Alzheimer's and the disease essentially because Alzheimer's are called hippocampal dementia because the disease starts in the hippocampus, in particular, in this area of the hippocampus where the adult hippocampal neurogenesis takes place. So if you in this early process, if you essentially revert your lifetime to a lifestyle that is more in in line with your natural needs, then you can restart the growth, and you can actually change the path to Alzheimer's. You can change it and actually become and you have a instead of a shrinking hippocampus, you have a growing hippocampus, and you move away from the disease.
Speaker 2:That was shown in publications. For example, Professor Preterson, I think in California, published the first papers, and I showed him my paper on unified theory a few years ago, and now new studies came out from him where he actually measured the hippocampus under this lifestyle changing therapy. No drugs, just the change in lifestyle back to a more natural, to the natural needs of our body and of our brain, and we come back, come in a second to what are these changes are. But he actually showed in his papers that the hippocampus stopped shrinking and started to grow, exactly as I predicted. And so what is needed?
Speaker 2:Well, you just have to go back into the old ages, actually, maybe back not further than the nineteenth century when people actually had to physically do something to earn their living, most people. You had to, if you wanted to eat something, you had to cook for yourself. Even cooking, standing in your kitchen and doing something is more than just ordering pizza, yeah, or going into a drive thru and eat your hamburger. Every physical action, even if it's a small one, but of course the more the better, but every physical action makes you physically better, and what I have shown in my papers and also in the indoctrinated brain, show examples, the very moment when you start to become physically active, you not only train your physics, your physical abilities, your endurance, and on so forth, all the hormones that are released to create these changes in your body are also activators of the neurogenesis in the brain, be it growth hormone, be it erythropoietin, and others. There are over dozens of such hormones.
Speaker 2:For example, there was a group of 70 year olds in a retirement home, and they did a study on them. They took 120 of them and put them into groups, and 60 were allowed to keep on with their life, which consisted of maybe a few hundred meters or yards walking around a day, and the other group was asked to walk for one hour a day. And they measured the volume of the hippocampus at the beginning and then a year later. In the group which had essentially a sedentary lifestyle, hippocampus was shrinking by 1.4% in this year. But the group which was walking just one hour a day, and they were on average 70 years old, in this group, hippocampus was growing by 2% in volume.
Speaker 2:Incredible. So you can essentially the shrinking process which was ongoing in this group, you can actually stop it, and you can regrow hippocampus. And this group actually was shown in psychological tests, more psychological resilience, they were more curious, and of course, they had more physical strength, and they had a better memory capacity. So you can actually restart it. So physical exercise is one thing you should do, and if you're unable because you are maybe not in a situation that you can't be physically active based on a disease or some other problems, then of course you should be socially active.
Speaker 2:Social activity means you produce a hormone which is called oxytocin. Oxytocin is the most potent activator of adult hippocampal neurogenesis that we know of. So that's why, for example, the unsocial distancing was so bad for humans' hippocampus in 2020, because the social distancing is an oxymoron. It was really unsocial distancing, and the low oxytocin levels that are reflected by the high depression rates in 2019 was even worse. They were even stronger and more pronounced deficiencies in oxytocin in our society in 2020.
Speaker 2:Then of course, need a purpose in life. And of course, the acumbers, when you grow cells, it's like if you grow, I don't know, stuff on a field, if you are in agriculture, you know that you need certain micronutrients, you need vitamins, you need minerals. Many things to which even people who think they eat well, healthy, Mediterranean or whatever, are lacking. For example, aquatic omega-three fatty acids. There's this belief cultivated wrongly in our culture that it's just sufficient to eat canola oil, which a lot of omega-three fatty acids, to supply your brain with the needed omega-three fatty acids like docosahexaenic acid.
Speaker 2:It's not working. Based on our culture, based on our evolutionary history, we are unable to essentially produce them in sufficient amount, and you really need to eat fish actually, but of course, cannot actually, you shouldn't eat anymore based on, first, the lack of fish globally, and most importantly, based on its contamination with heavy metals and other toxins. So I bought a book actually in Germany. It's not translated yet, but maybe somebody has interest who listens here. It's called The Algae Oil Revolution, and I show that even the fish doesn't get the aquatic omega-three fatty acids by producing it.
Speaker 2:Actually, it comes from the food chain starting very early in microorganisms in the water, microalgae, and you can produce cultivate them in big, huge containers, and so the world supply with these aquatic omega-three fatty acids shouldn't be a problem, actually, and that's what I recommend. And then last but not least, even if you eat well, what we're also liking usually, at least in the higher latitudes here in Germany, for example, maybe in North America, is vitamin D. Vitamin D is actually very important not only for the mental immune system, so for example, here in Germany, the lower vitamin D levels in the society compared to the vitamin D levels, which on published papers, which I show actually in my book, make the likelihood of dying from COVID-nineteen actually zero, because we all know that people who die from COVID-nineteen die from a cytokine storm, and the cytokine storm is in most cases based on a lack of vitamin D hormone, and if you increase the vitamin D hormone level, the likelihood essentially is zero, and the zero level is at one hundred and twenty five nanomole per liter, and we in Germany have maybe 25, and if you're between twenty five and twenty and 125, which is a natural level, We measure even in natives in Africa, which are always outside in the sun.
Speaker 2:Their blood level is 129 at 25, which reflects essentially the natural level of vitamin D, and our culture, of course, creates a situation where only have maybe twenty, twenty five nanomole per liter, and the difference is a seventy percent increase in Alzheimer's risk. So just by increasing the level to a natural level, we reduce the likelihood of dying from COVID to zero, and at the same time, it decreased the likelihood of developing Alzheimer's by seventy percent. So this you will find in my book, but it shows as an example that not much has to be done to reduce the fear from diseases like COVID or from diseases like Alzheimer's, which you really should be feared of, should have a fear, and at the same time, increase your mental strength, allowing not to be easily convinced by narratives that come from your television set.
Seth Holehouse:So it's really incredible actually, because it's not like there's just some magic pill. It's actually the solution to resisting the great reset, resisting the destruction of our brains and turning us into zombies is really just to become a human being again, to go back to how people lived, you know, fifty years ago, one hundred years ago, you go watch Little House on the Prairie and take a few cues from how they live in that. And it's interesting looking at my own life, because I spent over a decade living in apartments in Manhattan, and living even though I grew up in the country, I grew up on land in the middle of America. I spent most of my adult life living in an apartment. And that was where I hit the low of my entire life in terms of depression.
Seth Holehouse:Just feeling like I just want to go build something. Want to go have a garden. I want to go tinker in the garage. I couldn't do any of that because I was living in this this city, not to mention all the environmental toxins and who knows what else of being in the city. And after, you know, in 2020, my wife and I, we moved back to my hometown, and we got some land.
Seth Holehouse:And I started, you know, doing raising chickens and building and having gardens. And it was such a contrast in my overall life. And he and I started the podcast around that time. And so my sense of of this happiness and purpose just went just tenfold of what it was before then. And so I think that that's, to me, really what I take away from this this conversation is that the best way to combat this is just to be a human and to have bring your family closer.
Seth Holehouse:Invite friends over for coffee, and, you know, do have parties and cookouts together. Start a garden. If you're living in a in an inner city, see if you can move out in the country a little more to have a little bit of grass, to have a a garage you can tinker in, to become active, go on walks. I mean, really the solution is it's free. I mean, for most people, it's just it's right in front of us.
Seth Holehouse:So I I know that we're go ahead.
Speaker 2:No. We have to risk to be more human again. Yeah. Yeah. That's that's what we have to do.
Speaker 2:This this is what I see as a big chance because they wanna essentially create zombies out of us, which is the most anti human you can be. System two thinking, which is the ability of our hippocampus, or the hippocampus provides us with this ability, is probably the most human ability that we have. I mean, animal has emotions and feelings, and that's good, and we shouldn't ignore that. Feelings are important, but at one point in life, it's good to be rational. And then I had experience with my doctor who wanted to give me this shot.
Speaker 2:He said, You are a doctor yourself. She said to me that, Why don't you go as an example and get this injection? I said, Well, and she said, I had to be empathic, you know, about all these people suffering from COVID. And I said, well, empathic is good, but it is system one. This is what we all, the zombie mode is essentially empathic, but we need something which I call rational compassion.
Speaker 2:And I told her that, for example, the shutdown, the lockdowns were financed in the beginning by shutting down the world hunger help. Yeah. And people essentially were dying in maybe in millions. We don't know the numbers, we know that world health was essentially crumbling under the measurements. And so I said, well, you maybe have a lot of empathy for this person suffering because he didn't get enough vitamin D.
Speaker 2:But, yeah, think about it. But you didn't see the big picture, and we need to see the big picture, and that's why we need our system one, we need the autobiographical memory function to do that, and this is based on being human.
Seth Holehouse:Such a profound lesson. So I want to be wrapping up here, I want to bring up your book one more time. I'll put this in the description. I encourage people to buy the book. We've personally bought it.
Seth Holehouse:My wife Kate's reading it right now. I'll be next on on the line for that. But it's I thank you for giving us so much practical, useful information. There's a lot of people that they just say, well, the the secret is actually in the book, but if you buy the book, you can have the secret. And what you're telling us is that, you know, there is no secret.
Seth Holehouse:There's this formula that makes perfect sense that is in our DNA. But the book, I think, also explains a lot more surrounding that and gives a lot of the research and the backing, and I'm sure case studies and examples of this, which to me, all that information is oftentimes really helpful if I'm trying to implement a lifestyle change to say, oh, well, there's that one study where these people did this, and they saw a 60% reduction in x. It's like, oh, that's very helpful. So do you have any, you know, final words in closing for the viewers and listeners here?
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's the book, of course, has a lot of studies in there. But it's it's not the singularity, the little fragments, the pieces of a puzzle. It's actually it puts the whole puzzle together, and so we get a systemic view on things. And I think systemic is very important because drug companies always tell us this drug and this drug and this drug, and it's all kind of yes and no, but it's not yes and no, it's the sum of everything which is important. So the sum is really more than each individual piece, and if you understand that, then you realize it's not just taking vitamin D, it's not just this or that, or just having a purpose in life.
Speaker 2:It all has to come together. And this is why I want to, at least here in Germany, maybe worldwide, start a new way of medicine, a medicine that understands the systemic approach to health and to therapy. You cannot just give drugs. You have to understand how humans work, how we existed before this kind of prescription medicine started maybe one hundred years ago with the Rockefeller Foundation, I guess, was the first really implemented that we got away from a natural medicine. And this is our chance to install a new way of thinking.
Speaker 2:It maybe will come out the better, I guess. That's what I hope.
Seth Holehouse:It's almost like the saying that I've heard many times, let thy food be thy medicine, just showing that you eat well, and that becomes your medicine. Whereas this is even broader, it's let thy lifestyle be thy medicine.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Medicine as eating is one part of it, but we need a purpose in life. That's where it all starts. And then everything else else falls into place.
Seth Holehouse:Well, Michael, thank you so much for taking the time to come on and speak with me. And this has been such a just an invigorating interview. I do a lot of interviews, but this is one that has really, really touched me, and I'm excited to read the book. I'm excited to, you know, look at looking here. I mean, it's it's New Year's.
Seth Holehouse:Actually, you and I are doing this interview on New Year's Day, funny enough, and this is the earliest here in America. And so this is the time for us to look ahead at some changes that we can make. And I think that with this going into 2024, it gives me confidence and the ability to make some lifestyle changes that can really keep pushing me further into that place feeling really fulfilled and happy and with my purpose. And I thank you for pulling together all this research and giving it to us because it's just it's so crucial right now. I hope that people that are watching and listening can share this interview.
Seth Holehouse:If you've gotten this far in it, share it with people. Doesn't matter what side of the political spectrum. This is such important information for humankind.
Speaker 2:Thank you.
Seth Holehouse:Well, take care. It's been such a pleasure speaking with you.
Speaker 2:Thank you very much.
Seth Holehouse:Alright, folks. I hope you enjoyed that interview. I've now got a very special and very short ten minute interview with my good friend, Doctor. Kirk Elliott. Kirk, it's great to have you on as usual.
Seth Holehouse:How are you doing?
Speaker 3:I'm doing great. It's so good to be with you too.
Seth Holehouse:Well, we're here we are in 2024. I know last show we did looking ahead, not a lot of good predictions for 2024. But that's for people that are really, I think, keeping most of their funds in the stock market or in an IRA. But for people that aren't and are looking at other different ways of investing, it may not be bad news. So let's talk about this recent article that you just sent me on gold, right?
Seth Holehouse:This is obviously you and I talk about gold and silver a lot, but this is a great zero hedge article. So what's going on here?
Speaker 3:Well, I love it that we get to talk about good news for a change. So some of the fundamentals in this, though, are not good, But always look at the solution, not the problem, right? You have to understand the problem to get to a solution. But here's where everything we've been talking about, Seth, for man, a year allocated to physical gold, silver, something that's tangible, something that's real, something that doesn't have debt, something that's not digital or a piece of paper, right? With the new global digital environment that we're going into financially, tangible assets are amazing because they're private still, right?
Speaker 3:So here's where this Zero Hedge article is really incredible because in like four bullet points, it just talks about why gold is going to really projected to go through the roof in 2024. So let's just highlight some of those because I get a lot of clients and viewers of your show that ask. So here's where we go. Persistent inflation pressures, which we are going to see this year because eight days ago, the BRICS nations now have six of the nine largest oil producers in the world. They're going to de dollarize the world, get rid of the petrodollar.
Speaker 3:So we don't have built in demand for our currency. So that's going to do what? Force us to print like there's no tomorrow because we still have debt ceiling talks coming up. We've got every funding that you could have, whether it's stimulus, the interest payments on our debt, the Department of Defense, everything, it's going to require money. Well, if we don't have built in capital inflow, we're going to have to print it, right?
Speaker 3:So here's where that's inflation. That's the true definition of inflation. That's going to force central bankers to keep rates elevated. See, I don't care what Janet Yellen, what Jerome Powell say, how, oh, we're pausing interest rates because we won the war on inflation. In fact, they're going to come down next year.
Speaker 3:So they might come down once early on because I think they have to for them to save face. But there's no way you can print that much money and not have to raise interest rates or else inflation runs out of control. So what does this do? Stocks, bonds could actually tank, taking down other things around it. Real estate does bad in a rising interest rate environment.
Speaker 3:But here's where gold and silver, it becomes really interesting for people to protect, preserve, to grow and to thrive. So it's going to cost the government this year a trillion dollars just to make interest payments on the debt. So a trillion. So because our national debt just grew beyond 34,000,000,000,000. And so Social Security, Medicare, they're heading towards insolvency, and that's going to represent trillions more in unfunded liabilities, right?
Speaker 3:Which means they're going to have to print more. There's going to be even more debt. But as we speak, we're going to hit a trillion dollars in interest only payments. Seth, this is disgusting because we only bring in three Well, we bring in 4.7 in federal tax revenues. So a trillion is more than 20% of everything that we bring in.
Speaker 3:But a trillion is about $100,000,000,000 more than our entire defense budget. Our defense budget's $890,000,000,000. We're spending more on interest payments than we are defending and protecting our country, for crying out loud. See, this is awful. Well, now, with Americans living kind of hand to mouth, paycheck to paycheck, taxes can't even be raised.
Speaker 3:You can't raise enough taxes to cover these massive obligations. This is the problem. So interest rates are sky high. People aren't spending money. Tax revenues come down.
Speaker 3:This is a widening gap. But here's the cool thing. Not only is there a widening gap, there's a widening gap on supply deficits with gold and precious metals across the board. So unlike fiat Federal Reserve notes that they can print out of thin air, precious metals are scarce by nature. In fact, they face widening supply deficits in 2024 because major gold, silver, cotton or copper, platinum, palladium mines, they're struggling with rising operational costs and degrading reserves.
Speaker 3:So mining output, because of that, has hit a ceiling. But what hasn't hit a ceiling? The demand for metals, right? So the demand is going up. The supplies hit a ceiling or coming down as they extinguish inventories.
Speaker 3:Low supply, high demand, prices go through the roof. And this is exciting because investment demand gold and silver surged during COVID outbreak. It softened a little bit in '23, which gave us these really great prices right now. But even after that, gold is up 17% last year. But here's where when you look at the ratio between gold and silver, it's at like 80 something to one, it should be at 20 to one.
Speaker 3:This points, even though gold is poised to do really, really good, silver is poised to outperform even more because it's so undervalued compared to gold and the demand is going through the roof. This is where we can have a smile on our face.
Seth Holehouse:So it's the it's all of these components put together. I mean, because as as we're looking at this, which is what we try to do. Obviously, both of us have a bias towards precious metals. I mean, it's my like, if you if you say, Seth, how are you if you have an extra thousand dollars, what are doing? It's like, oh, I'm putting it into precious metals.
Seth Holehouse:Right? Like, that's just that's because I because I believe it. I I absolutely do. But to see that it's also reflected in what's happening in the markets and what a lot of these people are actually talking about that it to me, it's I mean, honestly, it's the same reason why if I had some extra money before, I might go buy, you know, 100 rounds of nine millimeter, because I would know that it's gonna be more and more difficult to get this in the future, which it is. And now there's a lot of manufacturing, you know, suppliers talking about how there's gonna be limited amounts of gunpowder.
Seth Holehouse:Right? So there there's certain limitations they're hitting. And so there's expectations that the price of ammo is gonna continue to rise up. So that's what this is. When I look at all the different components, it's just like, ah, okay.
Seth Holehouse:This just makes sense. That's just from the kind of financial perspective. The other part of it is it's like, well, the same reason why I'm buying storable food. The same reason why I'm I've got, you know, a generator and and fuel for that is because I'm also looking for ways to off grid. Right?
Seth Holehouse:A lot of what Mike Adams talks about off grid your life, off grid money. You know, precious metals is off grid money. It's money that can't be controlled by the control grid. So not only do you see that in articles like we've talked about where they're saying, okay, hey, we expect gold to be hit all time highs, which we're already seeing that. It's also you add to that the threat of our security, threat of our privacy, the central bank digital currencies, the unified ledger, then trying to take all these assets in this digital system.
Seth Holehouse:To me, like, it's like, okay, well, you can't touch this. You know, maybe you want to go walk my backyard with the metal detector and see where I buried it, perhaps, but that's never gonna happen.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I mean, here's where protection preservation. Normally, if you want that, you have to settle for low growth. But here's where we have high growth and the safest asset in the world, which is protection and preservation. It's like, you can't beat that combo. And this is just an amazing time where we can have a smile on our face, even though our freedoms are eroding all around us.
Speaker 3:We to ask ourselves this one question. If gold were a stinky asset, why would central banks be buying it by the thousands of tons? Right? They're buying it literally by the thousands of tons. China buy over 5,000 tons.
Speaker 3:The European Union over 10,500, the Fed has over 8,500 tons, India Six Hundred, Russia a thousand tons. These are not ounces or pounds, these are tons. So with these smart central bankers who have their own self preservation, first and foremost, they don't care about us, they care about themselves, would they buy gold if they thought it was going to stink and go down? No, they would not, especially not to that magnitude by the thousands of tons. See, we can do exactly what they're doing, Seth, just on a smaller scale because we can buy gold and silver by the ounce.
Speaker 3:We don't have to buy it by the ton. This is amazing. Do what they're doing and and beat them at their own game. Because when you do what they're doing, they're doing it for their own self preservation. But you know what?
Speaker 3:So are we. Because we want to get out of a fiat based currency system. They know that it's probably not all it's cracked up to be. There's going to be a lot of opposition. Why else would they be buying gold by the thousands of tons?
Speaker 3:I think there's a currency change coming, and 2024 could be a very pivotal year for all of that because it's a time of change. Presidential election change, you've got war in The Middle East, you've got all this stuff. And during times of fear, people will change and they'll give up their freedoms. And we're ripe for change. Well, we get to take advantage of it by allocating into gold and silver.
Seth Holehouse:And so I know that a lot of the people that are watching this show, they've got IRAs, four zero one k's, they're saying, okay, you know, that's a big tax. I'm not gonna pay the fees for that. So if someone has money sitting in an account like that, how do they what's the process look like?
Speaker 3:Real simply, you just give us a call or go to the the landing page that you put together. And we'll ask you a few questions. Now, this is where my team kind of takes over, so to speak. We'll cross the t's, we'll dot the i's, we'll move the assets from your old IRA to the new one that we can allocate into physical metals. Not paper.
Speaker 3:It's not a paper proxy. It's not a mutual fund. It's not a share. It's not a certificate. It's physical metals that we store in your IRA.
Speaker 3:Wow. So we handle all of that for you. All you have to do is spend fifteen, twenty minutes and fill out the application. We take care of the rest.
Seth Holehouse:So basically, there's a way to say, transfer a four zero one ks or a portion of it into physical metals that are sitting in a protected vault that that person physically owns, they can go inspect, they can go hold, it's real, it's not some paper. And you can do that the same way that you might tell your advisor that hey, I want to transfer from this stock into that stock. You can do it without being penalized.
Speaker 3:Same way. I mean, to me, it's the same process. It's just a different asset. We're talking about a tangible asset rather than a paper one. But the process, the mechanics are exactly the same.
Speaker 3:Now your normal advisors, Fidelity, Schwab, Merrill Lynch, whatever, right? They don't allow for physical holdings of metals. They're paper companies. So you just have to change custodian that will help you do into another IRA custodian that allows physical holdings of metals. And depositories are, boy, not all created equal.
Speaker 3:So I've vetted the ones that we've used. They have to have singular ownership, segregated storage, very safe, unlimited insurance coverage. We've vetted all of that because I mean, seriously, they have 80 or so depository throughout the country that you could choose from. I would not choose any of them, except for one that I have in Texas. Even the state of jurisdiction matters.
Speaker 3:Texas is very favorable towards precious metals. A lot of states are not. So we've done all of that. We've done all that homework. I store my clients' assets, gold and silver, at the same place where I have chosen for myself because it's safe, it's secure.
Speaker 3:I've known the owners for twenty years. Singular storage, segregated storage, I mean, all of that.
Seth Holehouse:Okay. So folks can go to goldwithseth.com, or they scroll down, they fill out this basic form, or they call (720) 605-3900. as usual, it's good to get these updates from you. I'm optimistic about actually, I'm optimistic in general. I know it's gonna be a really crazy year.
Seth Holehouse:Maybe there's civil war in America in twelve months. I hope not. I just I'm confident that the the good people will get through this. So again, thank you for coming on. It's always great having you.
Speaker 3:You bet. It's my pleasure.