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Where triathlon meets real talk. Hosted by two seasoned triathletes and one Sarah, this podcast takes a deep dive into the controversies, challenges, and triumphs of the triathlete world.
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Lleyton
All right.
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Lleyton
In all.
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Lockie
Seriousness, welcome back. It is so lovely to be back in the studio recording from the unfunded headquarters. It has been quite a few months since our last episode with the world champ. Matty has, he helped us round out the 2025 season. But we're back.
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Lleyton
Bigger than ever. Season two of the unfunded. It's going to be bigger. Better than last year. We've got some plans in the works. We do have lots of guests. The triathlon scenes changing as a whole. Which is very exciting. And yeah we're Kane. We're back. Yeah. It's a bit.
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Lockie
Weird. It is. I feel like we're going to probably take a couple episodes to find our feet again. Not, not interrupt each other and, you know, try to be on the same wavelength, but, no, it's been good. I think it was very much, a needed break. You know, it was a it was a bit hectic last year trying to figure out how podcasting works.
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Lockie
You know, try, try be a little bit, I guess, different in the way that we, you know, we've got a studio. When I went out on a zoom call, like a boring triathlon podcast. But no, it's been good, like you said. Well.
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Lleyton
We're back. Yeah. We're back. What have you been up to since our little hiatus last year? We recorded since December.
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Lockie
You know what I did actually think about? We never got to talking. Well, I think we. I can't remember the exact timeline, but we actually finished before, and I should probably just avoid this in general. But we finished recording before I did my Melbourne high rocks.
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Lleyton
Oh, yeah. Yeah. We actually have to recap this.
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Lleyton
Go on. Yeah. Melbourne high rocks, Mister rock star.
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Lockie
So look I'm just going to put it out there. I said some things.
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Lockie
And I really.
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Lockie
Give me four weeks.
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Lleyton
Now you you talk to me 40 talks just to see how it is. Give me.
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Lleyton
Four months around the be me.
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Lockie
Four months. And I swear to God I will beat every high road rock star now.
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Lleyton
So what did you actually go?
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Lleyton
You had the big macho man. Somebody who's going to win it.
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Lockie
Look, you know what? I. I could make all the excuses in the world. You know, I, I was, I was just coming off off season. I was sick from Tong Yong, okay? And I wasn't very fit. Yeah, I was just kind of, you know, coming back anyway. I didn't, And, you know, the worst part about this is I did, like, a really big social media lead up into this event as well.
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Lockie
So anybody who doesn't know, like, I spoke quite a bit of shit about, high rocks in the high rock scene, and, I said I was going to do one in the Melbourne high rock scene. It was December. Yeah. And led up to it. I did like a lot of posts on social media about hyping it up.
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Lockie
I even stated that I wanted to do a sub 60, and I did, one hour 20.
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Lleyton
Oh.
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Lockie
So. Yes.
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Lleyton
That's not even game points in a, in a race. No. That's triathlon. Yeah, that's a lot of the 8% or whatever it is.
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Lockie
Yeah. So look, it was, overall really fun. Did I cop some shit? Yes I did. It was the warriors in the dead.
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Lleyton
Especially off in the DMs. Just rinsing. Yeah, there.
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Lockie
Was some warriors in the dance running to me. And you know what? Like I said it, I walked the walk. I didn't, but what is it? No, no, no, I talk the talk. I didn't walk the walk, which is fine. I'll cop it on the chin. But yeah, I do think I look. I do think I would still be very good at it.
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Lockie
And I'll think if I did dedicate myself to high rocks, I would be a sub 60 athlete. However, I have no interest in it.
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Lleyton
Post triathlon? Maybe.
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Lockie
Oh well, maybe. But yeah, it's it's not.
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Lleyton
True of them nowadays.
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Lockie
Yeah. Anyway, credit to them. So I say that under the rug that. Yeah. Look credit to them because that they're a different athlete. They are different athlete. So you should have been the Olympics.
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Lleyton
No no.
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Lockie
No. Oh.
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Lleyton
No.
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Lleyton
Yeah.
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Lockie
I don't know. No. It could.
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Lleyton
You just trying to extend the career.
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Lockie
No, I'm not, because I actually, you feel like you think of like. Like.
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Lleyton
I mean, it is pretty athletic. Yeah. If you if you have to do both.
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Lockie
Think about raw athleticism, being as strong as possible and running as fast as possible.
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Lleyton
Like, that's that's. Yeah, I guess that's Mr. Olympia.
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Lockie
I just saw it sucks that they're all bit snobby, isn't it? They're all kind of like a bit douchey on Instagram, but like yourself. Yeah, but credit to them. Credit to them. Like they kicked my ass. So I'll cop one on the chain anyway. What what what happened to you over the, the off season?
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Lleyton
Oh, well, not much really. Went home to port for crazy and then chilled out there. Yeah. The retirement village.
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Lleyton
Yeah, yeah, but.
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Lockie
They were the good go to do.
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Lleyton
I didn't even have a friend to train with. Yeah, Joe broke himself.
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Lockie
Before going.
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Lleyton
Home. Actually, I train with Carl. Carl McCloskey was in town, so I kind of Calvet. Other than that. Nah. Back on the coast. Someone's ramping up squads, innit?
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Lockie
Yeah. We're have fun at the moment. Was doing really well.
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Lleyton
Yeah. So everyone's back in. Back in camp. We decided not camp, but.
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Lockie
Yeah, it's probably the first time especially for us to the like. Training at the moment does feel like a bit of a camp. We're in a squad, we're in a high performance environment. We're not, you know, with the swim squad, the block squad, in the run squad, we are all in a triathlon squad. And for anybody that doesn't know the new triathlon squad on the Gold Coast, the Ascent Academy, it's a new high performance center.
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Lleyton
Center.
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Lockie
I guess I always.
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Lleyton
Try it's called.
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Lockie
Yeah. Need that.
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Lleyton
But it's officially.
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Lockie
Yeah, but it's pretty cool to sort of see, like what goes on around the world in I guess, an off season. Like, just as fans of the sport were watching what the Germans are doing, the French, the.
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Lleyton
Yeah, it's all very different. Especially like, yeah, some people like alpine skiing. Yeah. We're out here in 35 degree heat just sweating our asses off. Oh.
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Lockie
Man's attitude. I think it's been brutal at the moment. That is. That is what the every probably every ride, run or swim where someone complains about the heat. I think that comment gets thrown around every time.
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Lockie
Attitude.
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Lleyton
Everyone's like yeah, yeah. Oh, this.
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Lleyton
Yeah. Very cool. This is always good. Yeah.
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Lleyton
No. But what's been cool as well, I think, for myself in this little offseason is all pre-season now is like the testing we've done. Yeah. I of like lactate testing. I've never really done much of it. Yeah, but it's, cool to say it and cool to know, like, what the numbers mean and what have you, have you specific numbers that you train to, I.
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Lockie
Honestly think, well, I guess were I just say we're so behind because I guarantee you every other country has been doing this for years.
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Lleyton
Oh probably. Yeah.
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Lockie
And like now all these tries like finally doing it and like we're and like look it's a step in the right direction and like if we want to peak for the next two Olympics, like perfect timing. Yeah. Let's let's learn and let's do it properly. Yeah. But yeah, it's exciting to see what the athletes are going to do.
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Lockie
This season, especially because things start to like change as of this year.
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Lleyton
Yeah, exactly. There's a lot of change in the whole world of triathlon. I mean, we'll get into it later, but we're starting the two year cycle of the Olympics. Yeah. You've got the PTO taking over absolutely everything. Yeah, I don't know how. Yeah. I don't know whether it's good or bad, but we'll see.
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Lockie
We'll see.
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Lleyton
There's a lot of change. And I think that's kind of change is good.
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Lockie
Coming into that, two year Olympic cycle. I think we saw I think everybody on Instagram saw I thought he was going to I thought his Olympic campaign was done. Is that. But when you go to Christian Blumenfeld with 100 plus Vo two recorded.
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Lleyton
That is ridiculous. It makes you wonder two things.
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Lockie
Okay, maybe 1 or 2 things. Easy coming back to full course.
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Lleyton
And we don't need to mention the one.
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Lockie
Who calibrated that.
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Lockie
Did what? Why did they put in for him? Yeah. I mean, look, we're not getting. Yeah. There's already been a few podcasts that have kind of had a bit of a dig at the Christians numbers. Christians numbers. And look, obviously, I think we all kind of skewed our faces a little bit when we, when we saw at least that.
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Lockie
Yeah, maybe any pro athlete like kind of skewed their face with like really, really I know, I know it's Christian Blumenfeld and he's phenomenal. And I think the average Joe doesn't even like.
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Lleyton
Know what the numbers mean.
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Lockie
They don't know what the numbers mean. But I also just know that that's a very high number because my Garmin says mine's 65. Yeah. And like this is Peoria with 65. Yeah. But also it's Christian Bloomfield. Why would you. He's not lying. Yeah. Oh he would lie.
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Lleyton
No no not maybe.
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Lockie
Maybe.
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Lleyton
I think he could be. Maybe he.
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Lleyton
Does.
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Lleyton
Yeah. Far out. That's that's a bit ridiculous to be honest. Yeah. I think the whole video too, he's smashing himself and he's smashing himself in January. That was another massive topic.
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Lockie
He was a big he was a big January champion.
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Lleyton
He was a huge January champion.
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Lockie
He basically went fuck you to everybody that kept posting don't be angry. He went, yeah, I'm going to go be the biggest January champion.
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Lleyton
Yeah. And if people don't know what we're talking about, it's been all over the trough on hot in the last you know, month. They start the year Joe Filo everyone knows him. He's like go slow to go fast. Not really. But like.
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Lockie
One of one of the processes.
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Lleyton
Of triathlon. Yeah I'd say he's like one of the greatest coaches on record. Yeah.
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Lockie
He had that just unbelievable squad from like 2018 until like oh probably earlier than that. Yeah. Leading into like the Tokyo Olympics where you had your Vincent Luis Mario Mola as your Richard Murray's. You Jake Birtwhistle was the women's side. You had like Emma Jackson. Yeah. No one was there.
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Lleyton
No. It was
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Lockie
When was there? It was.
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Lleyton
Huge.
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Lockie
Yeah. He had the squad around.
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Lleyton
Yeah. And he put up a big article saying that. Don't go hard. Don't be January champion. Guys, we don't go set pay bars in January, which is fair enough. And that kind of blew up the triathlon world guy. No. Like, why why is he saying this?
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Lockie
But I think a lot of them stood by him.
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Lleyton
Yes. A lot of the athletes do love like the punters didn't really though. Like, oh, it doesn't really make sense. Yeah. And when he's talking about that, he's not talking about, you know, an age group is he. He's talking about his select elite squad of triathletes who are aiming for a September world champs.
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Lockie
It's also the same thing that we've sort of been saying on this podcast for like quite a number of months now, and I think we started saying it a lot after we saw at the tragic injuries that were coming out just before the Wollongong World Champs, and especially for the Aussies as well, because it's so hard for us to have the two seasons.
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Lockie
You look at any of the Europeans right now and they're not really like trying to set the world on fire on now.
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Lleyton
Olympics is on.
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Lockie
Well, yeah, exactly. So the for them it's like June. July is where they start to like all right. Let's sort of ramp it up now with for us like we've got guys in our squad saying, oh I need to be fit right now because.
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Lleyton
I'm racing in four weeks or.
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Lockie
Less. Yeah, exactly. We're racing in February, March like again. It's just it's very tricky timing. So yeah, I mean obviously we very much agree with the don't be a January champion. Like set yourself up for longevity of the year. Like you can be good now but don't be.
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Lleyton
Yeah exactly. Right. And I mean yeah we we've touched on this heaps. It's it's a bit hard as like a junior as we said before. Like if you have to qualify for Worlds in March you have to be fit. But don't ruin your season in March. For September. Yeah. Oh sorry. That's kind of the January champions, which really, which has been blowing up the world.
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Lleyton
That's pretty much what's been going on in the social media world of triathlon.
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Lockie
I love the social media about it.
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Lleyton
Yeah, and I love it as well.
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Lockie
I love sticking my nose in it like I did.
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Lleyton
Hi, pop. The other day. Yeah. You said something about January Champions, Tony.
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Lockie
Why was he something on the unfunded podcast? Yeah, yeah. No, I actually the reason that we really had to quickly get this sort of back up and running is because I couldn't help myself again. And I think I commented on another podcast account with a bit of a shit like snarky comment, and I said delight. And I was like, I've just made my first record.
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Lockie
I just made my first beef comment of the year. Like, we have to get back into the past, but I'm ready now.
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Lleyton
Now that everyone's been asking. Yeah, everyone's been asking.
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Lockie
Yeah, yeah, guys. Settle down. All right, settle down.
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Lleyton
We're back there. All right.
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Lockie
But like you touched on, it is the start of the Olympic qualification for the LA 2028 Olympics.
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Lleyton
Yeah, so it is a massive two years. Yeah. Qualification starts as of May 18th. So it's going to run for a two year window. May 18th, 2026 to May 18th, 2028. Yeah. So in a couple months the window is open.
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Lockie
And the world triathlon an IOC, they've just they've recently affirmed it. Yeah. So they've confirmed their quota system, the qualification timelines and sort of how it's going to work over the next sort of two years.
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Lleyton
Two years. Yeah. So what we have for the Olympics, we know how many nations or how many spots on the start line for nations are going to get. Yeah. In these two you in the end it's pretty key like we've talked about it before with a lot of athletes like yeah. Drawing a line in our.
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Lockie
Own Jesse as well. Yeah.
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Lleyton
And that's how it works, especially with Australia where we've had a rich history of getting three quota spots, which is quite rare. Yeah. And we'll get into the details soon. But I think the technicalities of trying to actually just get quota spots before even qualifying yourself as an athlete, there's kind of two roles that you have to play as an athlete.
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Lleyton
If you're looking at qualifying for the Olympics to get a quite a spot for an Asian and then an individual spot. Yeah, I.
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Lockie
Really love that interview we did with Aaron where he kind of broke it down a little bit more for us and like that. That was one of the big reasons I wanted to get Aaron on the pod is because I've spoken to him in long rods about that, where like the technicalities of him, I think it was him and Joel and Martin Van at the time sitting down with a big spreadsheet going, who's where, who's in the top 30, and.
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Lleyton
What do I need to gain to disclose?
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Lockie
Yeah, yeah. Like that one disqualification bumped him up enough and it was like it was really cool. The analytics of I mean it's scary because it's it's obviously something that like probably both you and I want to like look at in the next couple of years, like what does Olympic selection mean and look like. And it's scary that it's, you know, it how technical it really is.
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Lleyton
Yeah. It's it's very much you're up to you, not only just up to like your own racing, but other people's racing as well. So it's, it's it's very confusing.
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Lockie
Sometimes idea control will.
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Lleyton
Try and explain it to the best of our ability.
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Lockie
Mr. Dodman.
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Lleyton
You've. So I've done a deep dive and this is the best I can think about it through triathlons, website and all that. So le 2028 he shield wearing LA Venice Beach, isn't it?
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Lleyton
Yeah, yeah yeah. But what is.
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Lleyton
Going on in the background? You got a couple junkies to the side. Whatever might be. Torres stops. Yeah, yeah. What dreams of made of. Yeah. Anyway, 55 men, 55 women on each start line. Yeah. Okay, so this is how we get there. Each gender the USA host nation gets two, gets an automatic relay. Yeah. So they get two spots on the men's side, two spots on the women's side.
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Lleyton
So how we're qualifying the the individuals is first through the realize. Yeah. So each relay team gets two males two females on each side. So 2026 world champs and 2027 relay world champs get automatic two quota spots.
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Lockie
Right? So we could have like you could have to USA automatically get. Yep. Relay team to men to women say Australia we go and win it. Win it like we did last year. Last year two men two women straight away.
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Lleyton
Bang. That's already selected.
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Lockie
France the year after bang.
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Lleyton
Bang. So these six right. Go on. And then we have eight more teams from mixed relay world rankings. So the top nation per continent. So let's say Australia is the top nation in Oceania. Yeah. Let's say we haven't qualified. Well then we qualify. Right okay. And then so you have each continent and then three extras based on relay ranking.
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Lleyton
Yeah. So that goes into whatever relays the like a world ranking. So your nation is ranked in the relay world ranking. So the next three who haven't qualified get spots right.
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Lockie
So there's 11 teams a lot.
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Lleyton
There's 11 teams all up. So once those relay spots have been decided 22 athletes, 22 males, 22 females have already been picked. Yeah well they haven't been picked, but quota spots have been picked so that now leaves 33 individual spots.
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Lockie
Yeah. So you've got 20. Yeah 22 of the 55. Yeah 33 left.
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Lleyton
There's three left. So within the 33 it's very confusing. As I said you must be ranked inside the top 160 in the Olympic ranking.
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Lockie
Yeah. So there's a whole separate ranking. You've got your World Triathlon ranking and then we've got the Olympic qualification ranking. Yes.
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Lleyton
So lucky. Explain how the Olympic qualification rankings.
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Lockie
So we looked at this before Olympic qualification points. You don't you can't get points by going, you know, to the middle of nowhere in a shithole country just to get some like real. Yeah. Easy points. You can get them from World Triathlon Championship Series race. You can get it from a grand final. The test, the, what will be the test event?
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Lockie
You get it from World Cups and you can get it from your continental championship races. Yes. No country cuts, the championship races. They're the only five races that you can get Olympic points at.
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Lleyton
Yeah. So that's how you get your Olympic points. And it's really confusing because it's different to your actual world ranking. Yeah. Anyway, so now from that 33 we have been given ten new flags per gender. So that then takes out another ten spots where at 23 spots, I won't really go into too much of the new flag.
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Lleyton
That one's a bit confusing. You have like five who qualify from their regional championships, and then another five of the top ranked. Yeah.
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Lockie
And then their, their rankings are their, sorry, qualification system is also very different. Like they don't they don't have to go to, a World Triathlon Championship Series. They can go like you said, they're regional.
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Lleyton
Yeah. Reach out countries. Yeah. Regional championships and win that. And they can qualify. Yeah. So that's very confusing. But let's just say another ten go. Yeah. And then another two are universally spots. So what this is, is nations that I guess more under disadvantaged in like funding. Let's say Bermuda's won. Yeah. They are given money by the IOC.
00;19;28;25 - 00;19;43;18
Lleyton
Yeah. Each year therefore they qualify as a universal sport. So it's about inclusion. That's what the Olympics is now starting to be more like. It's more inclusive. So they can get a universal ality spot.
00;19;43;24 - 00;19;45;07
Lockie
Yeah. Which is.
00;19;45;09 - 00;19;45;12
Lleyton
It's.
00;19;45;13 - 00;19;50;13
Lleyton
Confusing. Yeah. It's like a new flag but slightly different kind of criteria for.
00;19;50;14 - 00;19;52;22
Lockie
I think there was even like a Togo. Was it Togo?
00;19;52;23 - 00;19;54;06
Lleyton
Yeah, I think something like that.
00;19;54;06 - 00;19;58;25
Lockie
Yeah. Like a Kenya or like someone that's not really in the triathlon funding.
00;19;58;25 - 00;20;11;24
Lleyton
Yeah. Where they're kind of a disadvantage. Nation. Not like. So Iceland. Yeah. Last year got one with I think her name was Ella. Yeah. And they got like a Icelandic athlete to the Olympics.
00;20;11;26 - 00;20;12;24
Lockie
Right. Okay.
00;20;12;26 - 00;20;13;23
Lleyton
So.
00;20;13;25 - 00;20;22;06
Lleyton
So we've got those kind of weird spots the other way, the new flags and the universality. So now we have 21 sports.
00;20;22;06 - 00;20;44;19
Lockie
And that's where the qualification points comes into play. Yes. Right. Okay. So you got 21 sports with the Olympic qualification points. I mean if your nation already has a relay spot it then rolls down from there. Yes. So that's when it's like the and I think Aaron almost described as like a golden ticket where it's like the third spot for your nation.
00;20;44;19 - 00;20;49;07
Lockie
And to get that you then need to have three athletes within the top 30.
00;20;49;07 - 00;20;49;16
Lleyton
Yeah.
00;20;49;18 - 00;20;51;00
Lockie
Of that ranking. Yeah.
00;20;51;06 - 00;20;59;15
Lleyton
So let's say this is a good example of the top three. So let's say last year we had Matt Houses the world champion. Yeah Luke Williams he.
00;20;59;15 - 00;21;00;17
Lockie
Was in the top ten.
00;21;00;20 - 00;21;07;20
Lleyton
Let's say just eight. Yeah. For ease. And then we have you lucky in 30th.
00;21;07;23 - 00;21;09;22
Lockie
That makes it a little bit harsh.
00;21;09;22 - 00;21;11;11
Lleyton
But yeah well.
00;21;11;11 - 00;21;13;25
Lleyton
You're on the cusp okay. I'm just gonna put you in the cast.
00;21;14;01 - 00;21;17;26
Lockie
Iron Royal of 2016. So, you know, 2020, you.
00;21;17;26 - 00;21;34;16
Lleyton
Have to be in the top 30. The spots of house are and willing. Yeah. Don't count. But you can then get another spot. Yeah. So it just rolls down because you've obviously performed. You deserve the nation deserves an extra spot. Yeah.
00;21;34;17 - 00;21;37;18
Lockie
Oh, and I'll take that third spot on.
00;21;37;20 - 00;21;55;00
Lleyton
So that's how it's rolled out. That's the quotas. They is just straight up quotas. We're going to say a lot of changing in the actual selection policies. That'll probably mainly come out end of this year next year. It's so for your national selection.
00;21;55;00 - 00;22;13;27
Lockie
Well I was just about to say that's like the hardest part. So this is like the World Triathlon IOC qualification process. You know we're going to take the 55. We're going to break it down into the relay spots. And then you've got the new flags of this. And then you got the qualification points and all that. But then you've also got your individual federations qualification.
00;22;13;27 - 00;22;35;06
Lockie
So like if the if you want to fill those two spots. So say like obviously like you said, there's a lot of countries that get two male to female spots because they've qualified a relay team. Those two spots like last year we saw Matty has qualified his spot in the Pontevedra Low Chance. He got a top eight. Yeah that qualified his higher spot.
00;22;35;06 - 00;22;54;02
Lockie
Yeah Luke Wilson did it in Yokohama. Yeah I'm pretty sure that was one of the last races that could have done that. So like if Luke say hypothetically missed out on the top eight, he got 10th. It would have come down to a decision and it would have been a discretionary decision. They could have taken. Luke. Jake Birtwhistle they could have taken Brendan Copeland.
00;22;54;03 - 00;22;55;12
Lockie
Yeah, they could have taken me.
00;22;55;13 - 00;22;56;27
Lleyton
Yeah. Take me.
00;22;57;04 - 00;22;59;01
Lleyton
You because you can you.
00;22;59;03 - 00;23;19;05
Lleyton
Yeah. So that's kind of how it works. And it's going to be interesting. More so for those like top ten nations let's say Estrella who we hope is going to go back to back to back world champs. Yeah. And then a nation like France, Great Britain to see if they can get three. Yeah. Onto the cars. Even New Zealand last year was tough.
00;23;19;06 - 00;23;41;18
Lockie
It was a tough battle. It was a tough battle between like a couple years ago when like we saw leading into Tokyo, we like, really had to fight to keep the Kiwis off our. Yeah, off our tail. And we saw the drama brought last year like we were talking about the drama. And I think one of our first episodes where you had, you had, Vincent Louis Hayward blown up Sophie Caldwell, she was blown up.
00;23;41;18 - 00;23;44;02
Lockie
And France and JB to Power Nation.
00;23;44;03 - 00;23;58;06
Lleyton
Exactly. And it's it's hard to see such great athletes like that miss out. Yeah, but that's that's the way that this quota sport quota system works. Yeah. I mean it's it's harsh but yeah that's the Olympics I guess.
00;23;58;07 - 00;24;00;15
Lockie
Kind of the reality of it. Yeah. Yeah.
00;24;00;17 - 00;24;03;05
Lleyton
So well big stuff going on.
00;24;03;05 - 00;24;09;06
Lockie
It is, it is and like we said nervous but super excited. Yeah. Fertile super excited.
00;24;09;06 - 00;24;26;03
Lleyton
There's obviously a lot more changes going on within the whole world of triathlon at the moment. They're they're all pretty technical kind of things. Like we're going to have to wait to next year to fully see and get more clarity on what's going on with the Tae 150. Yeah, kind of jazz.
00;24;26;03 - 00;24;54;02
Lockie
Yeah, I know that. There's, and hopefully we'll be able to give a bit more background into it. You know, like we said later on, but the first 100, luckily for us, it is literally now back up about 20m down, 20m, 20 minutes down the road. So we're definitely going to want to be there. I am hearing talks that this is a bit of a press conference for the, you know, t 152 25 like a launch on like what?
00;24;54;02 - 00;25;02;03
Lockie
That's all going to look like. So, we're not going to go into too much detail, probably at the moment because we want to leave that we want to make sure that we're actually.
00;25;02;03 - 00;25;03;27
Lleyton
Giving correct info, correct.
00;25;03;27 - 00;25;05;29
Lockie
Info, because I could, I could, I could.
00;25;06;04 - 00;25;07;07
Lleyton
Make it up, I could make it.
00;25;07;07 - 00;25;08;13
Lleyton
Up. Well.
00;25;08;15 - 00;25;10;03
Lockie
But I would be potentially.
00;25;10;05 - 00;25;11;28
Lleyton
As good as anyone else is at the moment.
00;25;11;28 - 00;25;31;17
Lockie
Yeah, exactly. But again, like like change in triathlon probably isn't a bad thing. No. Like I think we're stuck in a bit of, rut, especially in the world of short course triathlon. Like, that's what we want to. That's what we want to specialize in. We both love short course racing. Probably more than we like the long course.
00;25;31;17 - 00;25;38;14
Lockie
I know you like it. Long course too, but we're definitely sort of more into the same of the short course troughs.
00;25;38;15 - 00;25;47;06
Lleyton
Especially this. Like the Olympics has that aura. Yeah. Like that magic to it. Yeah. That I think none of that long course stuff has to it.
00;25;47;06 - 00;26;01;20
Lockie
So they say it all the time like a, a world championship stops the world in your sport, but the Olympics stops the world. Yeah. Exactly. So I and you can't tell me that America is not going to do a phenomenal job. Yeah. If an Olympics like.
00;26;01;22 - 00;26;02;20
Lleyton
Yeah they'll put it on.
00;26;02;27 - 00;26;07;05
Lockie
They'll put on a show LA like hitting the City of Lights isn't the city of lights.
00;26;07;07 - 00;26;07;21
Lleyton
I don't know.
00;26;07;22 - 00;26;10;20
Lockie
I don't know. It could be could be some other city.
00;26;10;23 - 00;26;21;05
Lleyton
But another thing that's happened in the whole world of triathlon and where, where big short course guys. So the only way to access short course, unfortunately, is triathlon life. Yeah.
00;26;21;05 - 00;26;22;16
Lockie
If I can get me pissed off.
00;26;22;18 - 00;26;26;27
Lleyton
And we have a little bone to pick with triathlon live right now.
00;26;26;29 - 00;26;27;29
Lockie
Yes we do.
00;26;28;01 - 00;26;32;28
Lleyton
They have increased the price. We've hopped on about it before.
00;26;32;29 - 00;26;41;02
Lockie
I've. I honestly think if you go back and look at our very first episode or maybe our second episode, one of the two, it was 1 or 2.
00;26;41;04 - 00;26;42;03
Lleyton
They don't listen to us.
00;26;42;03 - 00;26;59;21
Lockie
They obviously have not been listening to the podcast, which is quite upsetting. Everybody else does. Why aren't they? But we said, what? What is an in for this year? What do we want to say in the world of triathlon and short course triathlon this year? And we said we want to see free to air racing. Yeah, we want to.
00;26;59;21 - 00;27;12;02
Lleyton
Say we want this. Yeah. Exactly. Right. Accessibility to like everyone who can see it, make it a massive audience. Don't put it behind a paywall. Yeah. Cuz like I don't get it.
00;27;12;03 - 00;27;23;24
Lockie
If you, if you were someone and like back, back in the day when like I'll go we miss Sarah. When Sarah was here she said I honestly would not pay to watch her.
00;27;23;26 - 00;27;24;22
Lleyton
Which is fair enough.
00;27;24;23 - 00;27;34;05
Lockie
And that is so fair. But if if you were sitting down on a Saturday afternoon or a Sunday afternoon, you're flicking through channel nine. Bang. Yeah, World Triathlon. You sit there and watch it.
00;27;34;06 - 00;27;42;22
Lleyton
Exactly right. And it's a bit like the club is like the surf club. Yeah, I can watch that on channel ten. Yeah. And why do I get around so much? I'm not going to pay for it.
00;27;42;23 - 00;27;43;21
Lockie
Oh tough day for it.
00;27;43;27 - 00;27;59;13
Lleyton
I would never will probably never pay for watching the clubs. Yeah, but I'll sit there and watch the whole two hour show of Pump me Shaw and Partners for frigging two hours. Yeah, I'm not going to buy a financial service.
00;27;59;17 - 00;28;00;10
Lleyton
00;28;00;13 - 00;28;01;13
Lockie
I can't afford you.
00;28;01;15 - 00;28;03;23
Lleyton
But. But it's good.
00;28;03;23 - 00;28;18;10
Lleyton
Because it's free to air, and I'll sit down and watch it. And I still don't understand why triathlon has still behind a paywall, especially when it's got this whole new branding. And that's the whole purpose. And they've increased the price paid to me.
00;28;18;11 - 00;28;30;07
Lockie
We've even got like, we're in a we're in a wonderful spot right now. Yeah. As triathletes and the sport of troughs on where for once we are really cool.
00;28;30;07 - 00;28;30;17
Lleyton
Yeah.
00;28;30;17 - 00;28;39;00
Lockie
It's mainstream triathlon is cool. Yeah. Like I can't believe I you go on Instagram and the amount of like gym junkies there are.
00;28;39;03 - 00;28;40;14
Lleyton
Yeah. You can, you can run.
00;28;40;14 - 00;28;48;23
Lockie
They're running. They're swimming like it is the new cool thing. Like people are like it started off obviously with the run club boom. Everyone was running and it was.
00;28;48;23 - 00;28;50;22
Lleyton
I got some money in. Yeah. For the ball.
00;28;50;25 - 00;29;04;22
Lockie
Well exactly. But it was like it's always like what's the next thing? And it was like running. Running five K running ten half a full watts after full, you know, let's pick up a bike. Let's do a trough on. That's kind of fun. Like we are in such a good position right now.
00;29;04;24 - 00;29;05;23
Lleyton
Why laws?
00;29;05;28 - 00;29;15;13
Lockie
Why are we making it harder for people to access. Yeah. And I also I also have to pay it, which is really annoying.
00;29;15;15 - 00;29;16;24
Lleyton
It's kind of, I don't know.
00;29;16;28 - 00;29;19;27
Lleyton
About like 20 bucks. Like 20. I was for.
00;29;19;27 - 00;29;20;24
Lockie
The year, I didn't even.
00;29;20;24 - 00;29;22;29
Lleyton
Which is a much I mean, I'm.
00;29;23;01 - 00;29;24;06
Lockie
Obviously going to pay it.
00;29;24;11 - 00;29;25;24
Lleyton
Maybe we should it maybe.
00;29;25;26 - 00;29;33;21
Lockie
Maybe it's a soccer contest. Soccer is like us. It's like like we're here complaining about it, but I'm still going to put my credit card details in there.
00;29;33;24 - 00;29;37;07
Lleyton
But we have to. Maybe we can tax write it off. We have to watch the races.
00;29;37;07 - 00;29;38;08
Lockie
It's that.
00;29;38;10 - 00;29;39;15
Lleyton
For the podcast.
00;29;39;15 - 00;29;41;13
Lockie
That is such that is a tax.
00;29;41;13 - 00;29;42;11
Lleyton
Write off. That is.
00;29;42;11 - 00;29;42;28
Lockie
This is well.
00;29;43;00 - 00;29;43;12
Lleyton
Seven.
00;29;43;12 - 00;29;43;29
Lleyton
Bucks.
00;29;44;01 - 00;29;57;05
Lockie
This is work 100%. Anyway, anyway, we'll hopefully we'll you know, we're not we're not going to stop until justice is, justice is made. So we'll, we'll keep fighting for that one. And eventually we'll be free to.
00;29;57;12 - 00;30;00;23
Lleyton
Yeah. One day.
00;30;00;26 - 00;30;14;17
Lockie
Lastly, one of the last things short and sweet episode today. Because, you know, we don't want to, we don't want to throw too much out. Yeah, yeah, we don't want to give you too much, but it is a bit of a sad season. We are missing a few people. Yeah, I start line.
00;30;14;17 - 00;30;16;10
Lleyton
Couple of legends have retired.
00;30;16;10 - 00;30;18;00
Lockie
Yeah, well, we're obviously just down.
00;30;18;00 - 00;30;19;02
Lleyton
The Aussies sticking.
00;30;19;03 - 00;30;38;10
Lockie
To the Aussies like there is. I actually think there was a shitload of people that retired at the end of this year. But again, just to keep it short, sweet, just to pay our respects to the people that again, some of these people 100% played a role in us to getting in the sport. Would you like to do the honors?
00;30;38;11 - 00;30;39;05
Lockie
Okay.
00;30;39;07 - 00;31;03;20
Lleyton
So the retiring pros of this year, Sophie Lynn, has hung up their boots after Wollongong. Yeah. Apparently that was pretty big down in Wollongong. Yeah, we've got Aaron, Aaron Royal finishing up his, professional career. He's still guiding though. Yeah. He was pretty cool to see Josh hamburger. Yeah. Also finishing up. He had a pretty decent short course career as well.
00;31;03;20 - 00;31;07;02
Lleyton
Yeah. Even though you know him for his, you know, funky Instagram Reels.
00;31;07;05 - 00;31;08;03
Lockie
Oh God how funny.
00;31;08;03 - 00;31;10;28
Lleyton
He's captions and his eucalyptus trees.
00;31;10;28 - 00;31;14;16
Lockie
Yeah he he's that's very strong. That's a character right there.
00;31;14;19 - 00;31;19;18
Lleyton
And then I believe Tim van Berkel finished early last year. Yeah.
00;31;19;18 - 00;31;23;12
Lockie
I remember seeing, I remember seeing the video. Yeah. His goodbye video.
00;31;23;12 - 00;31;36;00
Lleyton
So. But those are all, like, full, pretty big names in that just the Australian triathlon saying that were pretty pivotal in I guess. Yeah, triathlon in Australia and honestly had a few big races for.
00;31;36;00 - 00;31;40;24
Lockie
Cory's great full, massive careers.
00;31;40;26 - 00;31;41;05
Lleyton
Yeah.
00;31;41;12 - 00;31;56;05
Lockie
Thank you for. Yeah. If I'd had if honestly if my career in anything goes for I'd consider I mean, you got to be pretty happy. You got to Olympians right there. One of them, one of them's a two time Olympian. So, Yeah. Honestly. Well done.
00;31;56;06 - 00;31;57;21
Lleyton
Yeah.
00;31;57;23 - 00;32;16;16
Lockie
All righty. Obviously, like I said, we're going to keep it short. I'm going to give it sway. What? I want a shot of too much Danny throats on the first EP, but like, light and said, we've got big things for this season. Big things. We've got some new cool guests coming. We really want to keep on top of the social media again, keep you guys informed.
00;32;16;18 - 00;32;21;20
Lockie
I'm, I'm just going to put it out there. I will not be out of control myself and nobody is safe.
00;32;21;25 - 00;32;23;17
Lleyton
Yeah, but that's what they want us to do.
00;32;23;20 - 00;32;24;23
Lockie
I honestly think that we.
00;32;24;23 - 00;32;25;29
Lleyton
Get charged up too much.
00;32;25;29 - 00;32;32;14
Lockie
I think a lot of. And what I've sort of found in the last year is I'm not actually saying anything.
00;32;32;16 - 00;32;33;06
Lleyton
That people don't.
00;32;33;06 - 00;32;39;20
Lockie
Think the people aren't thinking. I have the support that I've gotten for some of my real fuckery.
00;32;39;22 - 00;32;40;16
Lleyton
That I've done.
00;32;40;16 - 00;32;45;11
Lleyton
And let me just, confirm that is Lucky's fuckery.
00;32;45;13 - 00;32;46;26
Lockie
Did you not do any.
00;32;46;28 - 00;32;48;16
Lleyton
No, no, I don't think so.
00;32;48;18 - 00;32;50;02
Lockie
Okay. Yeah. Look, I just.
00;32;50;02 - 00;32;53;24
Lleyton
See, like, the likes or the comments. What was my phone pinging?
00;32;53;24 - 00;32;55;13
Lleyton
So someone on.
00;32;55;14 - 00;32;55;23
Lleyton
Someone.
00;32;55;25 - 00;33;15;08
Lockie
Baited 145 likes on your comment lines like, what do I say? Yes. Look, I will, I do, I do hide behind the unfunded account, but it is probably my. Yeah. Only thing. We've got Tom Falco, you know, he's got access. So sometimes it is him. Unfortunately, not a lot of people know who he is, so people are just.
00;33;15;09 - 00;33;16;15
Lleyton
Like, just hides behind.
00;33;16;15 - 00;33;21;17
Lockie
A lot of is going to come for me, but, you know, that's okay, because like I said, I don't think I'm saying anything that.
00;33;21;20 - 00;33;22;06
Lleyton
People aren't.
00;33;22;06 - 00;33;24;07
Lockie
Thinking on already, and we're real with it.
00;33;24;08 - 00;33;25;19
Lleyton
Yeah, that's our opinion.
00;33;25;19 - 00;33;32;15
Lockie
And yeah, I wonder how long it's all. I wonder how long it's going to take for me to say something to Hayden.
00;33;32;17 - 00;33;33;16
Lleyton
He's our mate.
00;33;33;18 - 00;33;35;14
Lleyton
Is he? Yeah. Yeah.
00;33;35;16 - 00;33;36;04
Lleyton
He loves it.
00;33;36;10 - 00;33;38;14
Lockie
I don't know if he likes me very much.
00;33;38;17 - 00;33;39;17
Lleyton
He likes you.
00;33;39;24 - 00;33;42;03
Lleyton
That's more of a personal vendetta.
00;33;42;05 - 00;34;03;04
Lockie
No, I actually, I, this is we are going to close off, but I just want to say anything that I do say it is never personal. No, it's never personal to the person. It's usually just an action that they've done in a race that myself as an athlete and a follower of the sport, did not quite appreciate too much.
00;34;03;07 - 00;34;05;02
Lockie
So I will comment on it.
00;34;05;04 - 00;34;07;28
Lleyton
You could be a lovely person. How do you clarify? I just wanted.
00;34;07;28 - 00;34;09;26
Lockie
To clarify that. I just wanted to clarify that.
00;34;09;26 - 00;34;11;16
Lleyton
You could be our next guest.
00;34;11;16 - 00;34;13;24
Lleyton
Next week is actually hate and.
00;34;13;27 - 00;34;14;28
Lockie
You've not done that to me.
00;34;15;04 - 00;34;17;16
Lleyton
I have no, sorry for J.
00;34;17;19 - 00;34;19;04
Lleyton
No.
00;34;19;07 - 00;34;34;10
Lockie
Won't be there. Busy. All righty. I actually don't think we introduced ourselves at the start of the pod, which we usually do. So, you know, it's, you know, it's by now. But as always, I'm Auckland Jones, professional triathlete here with good friend Leighton Wall.
00;34;34;10 - 00;34;35;17
Lleyton
Also a professional.
00;34;35;18 - 00;34;36;15
Lleyton
Sport that.
00;34;36;15 - 00;34;57;24
Lockie
Is in and once again thank you very much for joining in to the very first episode of 2026 here from the unfunded headquarters. We cannot wait to hear from you. We cannot wait to speak to you again. If you have anything, any notes, any questions, queries, concerns, hit us up tonight on the unfunded pod on Instagram Cove just.
00;34;57;27 - 00;34;58;28
Lleyton
By listening you.