Need a dose of creativity and accountability? Hosts Monica and Candace are prioritizing ART and talking about it in a real way. One take, no script, and no filters… just two humans inviting listeners in for a fun weekly chat about what they’re making now and what is inspiring them.
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Speaker 1
Hello.
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Speaker 2
Hello. Welcome as we are. This is episode eight.
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Speaker 1
Oh, yeah. As we art. This is a podcast. This is a YouTube channel. We're so happy you're here.
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Speaker 2
Yeah. I'm Candice.
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Speaker 1
I'm Monica.
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Speaker 2
And we're going to talk about the art we created this week and what's inspiring us. And we hope to hear from you. What have you created and what's inspiring you?
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Speaker 1
Yeah, let us know. We really appreciate hearing and seeing whatever it is you're working on, whatever it is that's inspiring you. We thrive from that energy and we're here for it.
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Speaker 2
Yeah, I feel like we got the intro down pretty well this week.
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Speaker 1
Oh five wow. I mean, nailed it. We don't use this crap. This is it. It's one take so however it comes out. But that seemed that story.
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Speaker 2
Oh, yes.
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Speaker 1
And now we'll start talking our other and enter.
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Speaker 2
I'll take my 32nd pauses before I former thought. So we'll.
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Speaker 1
Be back.
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Speaker 2
On our normal, you know, weekly scheduled podcast stuff. Yeah, the.
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Speaker 1
Routines we're used to, but we are. We're getting more comfortable. I even branched out this week and brought some water because recently I kind of got a scratch tickle during the podcast, and we had to keep it in. But I'm like, you know what? I'm going to quietly sip some water.
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Speaker 2
That was a throat scratch tickle, by the way. Not like any other scratch tickle.
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Speaker 1
Yeah. I'm well, I do fidget a lot. I'm not going to say I don't touch. I'm always touching my face, my nose, my arm.
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Speaker 2
We're human. Things tickle.
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Speaker 1
I'm a fidget. All right, so I did. I took a very quiet sip of water, not slurp it.
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Speaker 2
Candace, look.
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Speaker 1
Gives me a look when I sip my tea or.
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Speaker 2
Have some issues. Folks, I have some issues. We'll.
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Speaker 1
Never eat on.
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Speaker 2
Clear. We will never eat on the podcast. We might have, like, a little coffee date on the podcast or a little adult beverage. Oh, that's some points. Nice. Yes.
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Speaker 1
Do we do we follow a lot of podcasters? YouTube adventures, travelers, things like that. Yeah, a lot of people like to show eating. Yes. And we don't like it. Yeah.
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Speaker 2
You definitely don't like.
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Speaker 1
Candace has, like,
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Speaker 2
I have a thing. I have a thing.
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Speaker 1
I think I.
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Speaker 2
Think it's called like, misophonia or misophonia. I don't know how to say it. I just know what it is because I feel it.
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Speaker 1
Well, I didn't know what it was, and I didn't know it was a thing. And so what it is, what is it?
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Speaker 2
I get like, angered. Irritated, like irrationally by people's chewing sounds. I hate lip smacking and, people chewing with their mouths open or talking with food in their mouth. Yeah, I get really irritated by it. I understand it is a problem, but, it is like the one area of my life where you will probably end up with a dagger.
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Speaker 2
Look from me if you, chew with your mouth open. I'm sorry. It's involuntary. It's not you. It's the food.
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Speaker 1
Well, there's a couple things I want to say about this, because I.
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Speaker 2
Think it has to put up with my crap.
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Speaker 1
No, I just did know about this condition. This is a real condition that people have. It's this extreme sensitivity in their ears. But it like, gets it affects their nervous system, you know, like nails on a chalkboard and type of reaction. And Candice doesn't show anger ever. And so her her reaction might be like she said, would you say, look at someone with dagger like she might look at give them a look, a stern look?
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Speaker 1
And, you know, it's been a learning process. I was not raised. Let me let me start that over. I was raised with good table manners. So I was raised, to chew with my mouth closed. And you don't talk with food in your mouth? Yep. But this is a different level. I mean, I didn't know I wasn't allowed to, like, crunch on an apple within ten feet, ten yards of candy.
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Speaker 2
Sorry. Like I said, it's not you.
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Speaker 1
It's me. No, I know, so we've adapted. I definitely just approach food a little bit differently. I maybe take smaller bites or try to finish chewing and swallowing before I start my next thought.
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Speaker 2
I appreciate you trying to adapt to my issues.
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Speaker 1
Yeah, my poor mother visited once and had a hard candy in her mouth and was chatting with us and.
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Speaker 1
I didn't notice. We're just having a chat around the dining room table. I thought it was lovely. And then I happened to look over at Candace, and she's like, clenching. I'm like, I was like, mom, here's a little plate. Would you mind putting your candy in that plate until the end of the conversation? She had no clue.
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Speaker 1
She's like, sure. And then Candace relax. And it was fine, but it was pretty funny. Yeah, but anyway, you've taught me. What's it called again?
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Speaker 2
Misophonia. Okay.
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Speaker 1
Why are we talking about this? Oh.
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Speaker 2
Sipping water.
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Speaker 1
We will not eat food on this podcast. That is our promise to you.
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Speaker 2
And if you eat food on your podcast or your vlog, we will watch you. But we will fast forward. Fast forward through that part. Yeah. So forward is what I said.
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Speaker 1
Yeah. So we've cleared that up. I do have water in case I get a.
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Speaker 2
Little.
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Speaker 1
Scratchy technical in my throat. Yep. Because it happens sometimes I talk really fast when that happens. But, so we're here. We are, we come every week, every Tuesday. Every Tuesday. We do this once. One take, no script, no rehearsal. We're just talking about the art we've worked on. What's inspiring us this week was a little unusual because we survived Blizzard 2026.
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Speaker 2
Yep.
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Speaker 1
We're located in New England, the northeast corner of the United States of America. So if you were affected by the storm, we hope you have your power back. By now, there are still tons of people digging out a lot of neighborhoods and entire cities without power still. And it's day six since the storm hit. So wherever you are in the world though, let us know where you're watching, what city you're in, what your weather is doing.
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Speaker 1
But if you are impacted by this severe storm, our hearts go out to you. It was really.
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Speaker 2
Cold. Yeah.
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Speaker 1
For a while, pretty.
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Speaker 2
Much everybody lost power. It's crazy.
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Speaker 1
A lot of a lot of granola bars consumed and flashlight reading. And we it just made us reset. We try to go through life with gratitude, but it definitely made us reset and, really appreciate shelter, warmth, a stove, a hot shower, be able to do, being able to do laundry. And so we're really happy that we got through that.
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Speaker 1
And we are hoping everyone is safe and warm by now. By the time this airs.
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Speaker 2
Yeah, yeah, we're about a week out and there's still people near us that don't have power. So yeah, we're hoping that gets restored soon.
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Speaker 1
So yeah. So thank you for all the well-wishes. A lot of people messaged us. I'm so nice. And this week we were still able to accomplish artistic endeavors.
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Speaker 2
Oddly enough, this week I feel like we were able to accomplish a lot of artistic endeavors, which is great.
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Speaker 1
I don't think that's odd. Candace, since we didn't have the distractions of TV and internet, that is true.
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Speaker 2
That is true.
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Speaker 1
There is a correlation there, but let's talk about it. You want to go first?
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Speaker 2
Can I go first? I want to go, yeah.
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Speaker 1
And would you. What'd you.
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Speaker 2
Do? This week I got some new inks for linocut printing, which is awesome. The inks I had before are water based, water soluble inks and dry really quickly, so it's hard to get, a good print without, like, rushing. So I got some oil based inks that take much longer to dry, and it seems to have worked.
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Speaker 2
There's still a learning curve for me. But I printed some up some copies, not copies. I hand printed some linocut prints of the like, mental maelstrom thing I have talked about in previous episodes.
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Speaker 1
Doesn't have an actual name yet, right?
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Speaker 2
It does not.
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Speaker 1
It's like I call it Chaos Face or Chaos Head. That's a.
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Speaker 2
Good one. Okay? Chaos face is good. No, I.
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Speaker 1
Want you to name it. We talked about something, but I forget it.
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Speaker 2
Was, there's that like, joke on that. They say on Drag Race all the time. You know. How's your head? That's right. No complaints. That's right. Yes. So I was thinking about using a dirty joke and calling it. No complaints, which most people won't understand, but it.
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Speaker 1
It's it's actually it would be almost like, tongue in cheek when you look at this. Yes. Look it up.
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Speaker 2
So I'm going to.
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Speaker 1
Hold up my. No complaints.
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Speaker 2
Sorry if I bonk some like.
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Speaker 1
This is a.
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Speaker 2
Prank. I did it in two colors red for the the face squirrel and black for the t shirt.
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Speaker 1
So good.
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Speaker 2
It was fun. This is the final print that I did. I will post on Instagram the succession of prints because you can definitely tell which one was first. So many did you do? I did for this is the fourth so good.
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Speaker 1
I love the rich red tone.
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Speaker 2
Thank you. That was an accident.
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Speaker 1
What do you mean?
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Speaker 2
The first time I printed with red, it was a really garish red, which I didn't really notice at the time. But then I accidentally got some black ink in the red when I was rolling it out, and so it darkened it. And it actually looks a lot better. I like it better, so.
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Speaker 1
I like it. For those of you just listening to the podcast, you are missing out on the visuals. So check us out on YouTube if you want to see this. But also, follow us on Instagram at SB Art podcast because we accompany each episode launch with a string of pictures, that of things we discussed during the show.
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Speaker 1
The show.
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Speaker 2
It's a show.
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Speaker 1
The show, the Candice Monica Show. And during the chat, the weekly accountability update. So, be sure to follow us on Instagram so you can see Candace's awesome print. I just totally you're right.
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Speaker 2
Headphone cord.
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Speaker 1
Headphone cord.
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Speaker 2
Yes. I cannot microphone cord.
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Speaker 1
I don't know, it's some technology for.
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Speaker 2
Short. I need to get some longer ones. But in terms.
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Speaker 1
I love that. Candace, you should be so proud of that. I'm glad you were able to figure out how to do two different colors. Are you going to do some?
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Speaker 2
I'm going to do a run of just single color, I think. Okay, just black and white. And see how that turns out. I might experiment with some other colors as well. If you don't know and you haven't been listening. I'm new to linocut, so, yeah, it's all a lot of learning for me, and it's really fun.
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Speaker 2
But, yeah, it's, I have to learn how to print more consistently is my new goal, so.
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Speaker 1
Yeah, you'll get there. I know you try a different paper. Different ink. Like, we try different methods and we want to know whatever you're working on. If there's something you're new to, a different medium, different type of art, you're just trying out something you've already perfected and you're experimenting even more like wherever you are in that stage of things, we would love to know about it.
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Speaker 1
You didn't sign it?
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Speaker 2
I haven't signed it yet. It's got to dry. It takes a couple of days to dry. Three for whatever. So I will sign it and number it once it dries. I also made a little stamp this week that I will stamp each print with, because I have chosen a name for my linocut studio. So okay.
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Speaker 1
You're going to share this. I know you're throwing around a few different names that you came up with. A really good one.
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Speaker 2
Yeah, Monica helped me. Full disclosure, because, we got to brainstorm together. It was fun. So my linocut studio, our linocut studio is going to be Grumpy Ghost Studio. So.
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Speaker 1
And why is that such a perfect name? Candice. Ooh.
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Speaker 2
Let's see, maybe because I'm grumpy a f and I love anything a little bit scary and, you know, kind of makeup or Halloween spectral. Yeah.
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Speaker 1
Yes. Yeah. No. That's perfect. The grumpy part I thought was just really funny and grumpy ghost wasn't taken miraculously. So you secured the website. You know, I'm going to tell everyone about one of our first dates to the art. It's the artist's little gift shop.
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Speaker 2
So the local art gift shop there.
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Speaker 1
Yeah. Okay. We were we had just we were pretty new, not just met, but it was like our first outing, I don't know. And we went to guess what it was artist, super collective. It had lots of different local artists who sold their wares in this perfect little shop. It was adorable. I can't remember the name of the shop, but either one of the artists had a big giant bucket filled with repurposed bottle caps that she had made into magnets.
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Speaker 1
So each one had a specific hand-drawn image, or a little tiny micro painting with a magnet on the back. I mean, there were hundreds and there were all little images, though they weren't, sayings or phrases. Like we said.
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Speaker 2
They were all like images inlaid into resin.
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Speaker 1
So that's right. They were like a shiny. We still have it. They're little magnets. They're on a refrigerator. But I picked one after and we didn't know what the other one was selecting. This is very important to the story. So we each found one and we shared what we had picked because, you know, you don't want your choice to influence the other person.
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Speaker 1
So we did it without the other person knowing. And then we revealed to each other what we had selected. And mine was a perky, colorful bouquet of flowers. I mean, this is just you might as well be a self-portrait. I am bright and sunny and I love flowers and I love colors very much.
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Speaker 2
An optimist.
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Speaker 1
Yeah, and nature inspired me. It was just like it was the most perfect little painting in my mind. And I thought it represented me, which wasn't. There wasn't a, task to find a buttercup that represented us, but it was the one I selected. What did you pick?
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Speaker 2
Not that it's,
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Speaker 1
The opposite.
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Speaker 2
Yes. What I chose was a grumpy rain cloud. It was a little rain cloud with a very pronounced frown. Very cartoon frown. Yeah. And raining. It was a little grumpy rain cloud. That's what I chose.
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Speaker 1
Oh, God. And you were so pleased with yourself.
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Speaker 2
And I loved.
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Speaker 1
It. You were so happy in her way of being happy, because it did represent you and it's.
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Speaker 2
Well, it was also hilarious because it was like a juxtaposition in the bin, because this all these magnets were like cats and happy things and rainbows. And then there was this one just fucking grumpy rain cloud. And I was like, yes, you have found your home.
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Speaker 1
Yeah. And it really was funny. And to learn about each other so soon, we are total opposite and it but we blend well. We balance each other out. I mean, you can't have flowers without rain. Yes. I love that the cloud has a an actual frowny face. Like it's really funny. So when you were coming up with, names for your linocut linocut because you eventually want to put them on Etsy and have a little shop, it's got Grumpy Ghost.
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Speaker 1
It was just perfect.
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Speaker 2
I'm so happy I enjoy it. I like the name. Thanks for brainstorming with me.
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Speaker 1
No, no that's great. It was fun and you did awesome. A lot of different prints on your linocut and we're excited to see the next step, especially when you stamp it with the grumpy ghost.
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Speaker 2
Yes, I will show the finished product when it's all finished. That's great. What do you get up to this week? Monica?
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Speaker 1
Art. Yeah, I was excited. For those of you who have been following, I finished a window. This is a really big deal for me because if you know me, my favorite part of any artistic process is starting a new project. And I'm trying really hard to finish an old project before starting a new one.
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Speaker 1
It's a constant.
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Speaker 2
Challenge.
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Speaker 1
It's challenging for me. This is what Candice loves. She is very organized and methodical and absolutely sees a whole project through before starting a new one. I on the other hand have piles everywhere of little projects I've started. So I'm, I'm trying to get better at that.
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Speaker 2
Yes you do if.
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Speaker 1
You've been following, you know, I am inspired by the artwork from a class I took, I took a literature class that focused on the Harlem Renaissance. And some of the book covers had an artist named Aaron Douglas, who did a lot of iconic work in the 20s and 30s and the 1920s.
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Speaker 2
Yeah, you got to be specific now. We just had the blizzard at 26 and it's 2026.
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Speaker 1
So funny. I took college classes just recently. I just graduated like in December a couple months ago, got my bachelor's degree. I'm so thrilled with that. But I am about I was about to turn 50 years old when I finally got my degree. I was really proud of that, but some of my classmates were like, oh, you're from the 1900s.
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Speaker 2
Yes.
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Speaker 1
I have to. I have to clarify. So Aaron Douglas was an artist in the 1920s and 1930s and Harlem Renaissance, and one of the covers he did for the NAACP magazine is called The Crisis. The magazine still exists, but this particular cover with The Woman holding Up the world, I just thought was extraordinary. And I was inspired and I made a pattern.
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Speaker 1
And this week I finished the window.
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Speaker 2
Let me grab it. I'll be your arm swinger again.
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Speaker 1
Okay, I hope you can see this. I put it on a white tray in hopes that it shows up on camera, and once again, follow us on Instagram so you can see a picture of the final product. But yeah, she is. The whole thing is in gray, black, white and gray scale. Except for the blue swirly glass of the world she's holding.
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Speaker 1
And then I did some orange flowers for a little pop of color down there. But I'm really happy. And I did something unusual too, with the patina. I don't know if you can see this on the camera, but when we make stained glass, we normally put, black patina on the solder seams. That's the most common you can leave them silver.
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Speaker 1
But patina is more common. But the other option is to make copper patina. So around her body I did copper to really make her glow. And then everywhere else, it's black. So this is the first window of for it will be a collection that will be hanging at the college where I just graduated at UMass Lowell Library.
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Speaker 1
And yeah, I'm so happy it's done.
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Speaker 2
It looks amazing. Thank you. Yeah. And what a cool artist to be inspired by too Aaron Douglas. So I actually didn't know anything about Aaron Douglas until Monica took that class and shared with me.
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Speaker 1
So I'm great. So happy I took that class and we read such incredible books I wouldn't have probably been exposed to. The authors are not in the like. The typical literary canon that you learn in school, and I was so lucky to get some professors to open those doors and expose the students to to new and really awesome, eclectic, diverse, writers.
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Speaker 1
So as soon as that project was finished, I started the next sketch for my the second window. Nice. I'm going to grab it.
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Speaker 2
All right.
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Speaker 1
Okay. This was another piece that we read. This is a cover by Aaron Douglas. And you can probably see some similarities. There's a cityscape with some smokestack. Again, this has buildings in it. And then this really tall figure again, the way Aaron Douglas did his art. It's kind of like Art Deco.
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Speaker 2
The line. Yeah. Very geometric. Yeah.
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Speaker 1
It's perfect for stained glass. So I was inspired by this cover and made my pattern nice. I can't wait to start cutting glass. This will also be in black, white and gray scale. And this sun right here will be the the pop. I'm going to use a nice fiery orange for that. It's super excited.
00:21:08:22 - 00:21:11:27
Speaker 2
I like the way you did the smoke. So yeah.
00:21:11:29 - 00:21:23:06
Speaker 1
And so the smoke on the image went all the way up to the top. And I really needed that. To break up these pieces of glass is very specific lines you have to keep in mind when you're designing something for stained glass.
00:21:23:06 - 00:21:28:29
Speaker 2
Especially if you cut by hand and not with this, ring saw is what I tried.
00:21:29:02 - 00:21:48:14
Speaker 1
Yeah. We do everything by hand. You're right. If you notice, stained glass has a lot of interesting cuts in one piece without seams. They're probably using a saw of some kind to, like, laser cut it. We don't do that. We do it by hand. So the lines, the pieces have to be, It's hard to explain, but you can't have certain jagged corners.
00:21:48:14 - 00:21:49:07
Speaker 1
They won't work.
00:21:49:08 - 00:21:55:26
Speaker 2
Yeah. You can't, like, turn an angle, right? When you're cutting glass, it's got to break straight across. So yeah.
00:21:55:29 - 00:22:11:00
Speaker 1
I have the most I have some difficult cuts on here, but the smoke really helped. I get over to his hand and then go off the page. So I'm really excited to start this one. By next week. By next episode, I should be able to show some progress with that.
00:22:11:04 - 00:22:12:00
Speaker 2
That's awesome.
00:22:12:02 - 00:22:28:08
Speaker 1
And yeah, it's going to be a nice, cohesive collection. I think I'm going to be able to do all four windows by May, which is the goal. The goal I might I still might do just three. I don't know yet, but yeah, it's going I think because of this podcast, it's holding me accountable.
00:22:28:11 - 00:22:29:15
Speaker 2
Yep. For sure.
00:22:29:18 - 00:22:43:12
Speaker 1
Yeah. So stained glass and some sketching. And then I worked my writing. I finished up that story. I mentioned it last week, that night, doing time with Virginia Woolf. It's a short story, but I also a yawn.
00:22:43:12 - 00:22:45:17
Speaker 2
Sorry. No, it wasn't because of you.
00:22:45:19 - 00:23:07:04
Speaker 1
Like, boring, you know? Yeah. The writing. I'm trying something new. I've never done, never done it, but I just I thought that the short story would kind of lend itself to a play. I started imagining this scene because it's a short story of two women in a prison cell having a conversation. That's the gist of it.
00:23:07:06 - 00:23:13:16
Speaker 1
And I thought, oh, that would make a really easy set for a play because you don't have to change scenery.
00:23:13:16 - 00:23:14:25
Speaker 2
Yeah, and there's only two.
00:23:14:25 - 00:23:34:10
Speaker 1
People in it. So I thought, you know, taking a lot of the ideas for inspiration from Virginia Woolf's writing, the conversation that happens between these two women, I think it can really go off in some interesting directions and make it really dialog heavy, which has to be because it's a play. I've never written a play.
00:23:34:10 - 00:23:38:26
Speaker 1
I've never been involved in theater in any, any way, but I thought it would be fun to try.
00:23:39:00 - 00:23:46:12
Speaker 2
That's awesome. That will be amazing for a play that story. Oh, thanks. Perfect for a play. What a great idea.
00:23:46:14 - 00:23:56:01
Speaker 1
We'll see. So thank you. Yeah, I'm excited to try it. I have to do a little research because I'm sure there's like some form formats or formulas.
00:23:56:04 - 00:24:01:24
Speaker 2
Yeah I'm sure there's very specific formatting and you know, font and whatever.
00:24:01:24 - 00:24:05:05
Speaker 1
So write an actual play, a son, a screenplay.
00:24:05:08 - 00:24:07:10
Speaker 2
That's just a stage play. So the.
00:24:07:12 - 00:24:08:09
Speaker 1
Script.
00:24:08:12 - 00:24:08:27
Speaker 2
The script.
00:24:09:02 - 00:24:22:24
Speaker 1
The script for a play, knowing nothing about it. But that's why we're here. We're doing this podcast to encourage you as well, to try new things. Who cares what the end result is? And I know that's harder for some people than others.
00:24:22:26 - 00:24:24:04
Speaker 2
Getty.
00:24:24:06 - 00:24:35:10
Speaker 1
It's hard for Candice. She wants it to be really well done and precise. I'm more of an experimental type of person, so I'm willing to just throw myself in and try writing a play even though I never have. It's very.
00:24:35:10 - 00:24:42:13
Speaker 2
Cool. It's very brave to be a very experimental person, I feel, because it's not something that I am great at.
00:24:42:15 - 00:25:05:09
Speaker 1
So working on it, you can't have any qualms about looking like an ass. You know, I, I don't mind if I fuck up because, like, it's just part of life. Like, thank God I don't have that in me. I'm really glad I, I don't have that in me, but I, I really like failing. I really like messing up, falling down, trying again, starting over.
00:25:05:12 - 00:25:28:25
Speaker 1
That's part of it. And I don't get hung up on that like perfection. Some of you know, we don't really talk about our nine to fives on this podcast very often, but I am a communications consultant with people whose first language is not English. And I know I'm not the typical teacher that they've had when they take ESL classes, but I work with adults only, professionals from around the world.
00:25:28:27 - 00:25:30:24
Speaker 1
Adults only sounded weird.
00:25:30:27 - 00:25:34:01
Speaker 2
Yeah, it's very only fans.
00:25:34:04 - 00:25:51:27
Speaker 1
The content of my classes is moderated. You know, I just don't teach classrooms full of kids. It's just not my thing. I work with adults. Professionals from different countries. And I have found that, a lot of the people, some of the people that I've worked with really worry about making mistakes.
00:25:52:00 - 00:26:00:01
Speaker 1
I'm like, what? Don't worry about it. You've got to make mistakes. Like that's just part of it. Like that's part of the fun. So I think it's fun. A lot of people don't.
00:26:00:06 - 00:26:06:27
Speaker 2
I do not, I do not think mistakes are fun. I learn from them. But I also have like a very high degree of embarrassment.
00:26:06:27 - 00:26:11:24
Speaker 1
So which is why this podcast, with one take and no script is. Yes. Oh so fun.
00:26:11:27 - 00:26:14:19
Speaker 2
It's it's fun.
00:26:14:21 - 00:26:16:14
Speaker 1
But it's good. It's getting us grow.
00:26:16:14 - 00:26:20:17
Speaker 2
It is helping. It's helping us grow, for sure. Me, particularly.
00:26:20:21 - 00:26:25:12
Speaker 1
Me too. We just don't progress without discomfort. Yep. There's no way.
00:26:25:15 - 00:26:29:04
Speaker 2
Yep. So something that took me a very long time to learn. So.
00:26:29:06 - 00:26:45:19
Speaker 1
So anyway, what are you working on? What are you trying? That's new? That's different. What are you doing that requires being brave? We would love to hear about it. Share it with us in the comments, on YouTube or in the comments on Instagram or private message like you have. That's great too. We'd love to know.
00:26:45:21 - 00:26:47:01
Speaker 2
So all right.
00:26:47:02 - 00:26:48:04
Speaker 1
Inspiration.
00:26:48:04 - 00:26:49:18
Speaker 2
It's inspiration time.
00:26:49:21 - 00:26:57:17
Speaker 1
I think I just said all my, my, my people around me who are trying new things, people that share with us. Yeah, that's that's my inspiration.
00:26:57:21 - 00:27:26:27
Speaker 2
That's good. My inspiration this week is not that positive. So, my inspiration this week is anger. Honestly, I was inspired to continue creating and try to put something out there with art because the state of looks around, you know? Yeah, everything is just a mess for everybody. So I have a lot of anger about that and, just working it out with art.
00:27:26:27 - 00:27:31:20
Speaker 2
So my inspiration this week was definitely having some feelings.
00:27:31:22 - 00:27:41:27
Speaker 1
So and how can you not if you've watched the news, if you see what our country is doing to people around the world, to people within its country.
00:27:41:29 - 00:27:42:25
Speaker 1
Kansas.
00:27:42:25 - 00:27:59:19
Speaker 2
I mean. Oh God, yes, please, please, please like do anything you can to protect your trans friends and family in just anything you can. It's ridiculous the way that trans folks are being attacked. It's disgusting. Yep.
00:27:59:19 - 00:28:18:27
Speaker 1
So and it's, it's just one thing after another, just pummeled with shit. And the world is now receiving bombs on our account. Like, I just it's just really bad out there. And so I agree with you, the inspiration of rage. Almost like the more violent the world gets, the more necessary art is. I'm sure we're going to keep doing it.
00:28:18:28 - 00:28:26:21
Speaker 2
Yeah, it's a wonderful form of resistance and just, I don't know, Art's going to save us all, I feel like so.
00:28:26:28 - 00:28:27:22
Speaker 1
I agree, keep.
00:28:27:22 - 00:28:30:25
Speaker 2
Doing it. I'm trying. Everybody keep trying.
00:28:30:25 - 00:28:36:29
Speaker 1
Yeah. No it helps process it. You know for sure. But also just.
00:28:37:01 - 00:29:02:17
Speaker 1
Just to put yourself out there and don't do what they want, which is to make us feel smaller and silence us. I mean, as queer as women, as people like that aren't typical and heteronormative and believe in the patriarchy. I mean, we're going to keep making art and, no matter where you are on the artist spectrum, we we would love for you to get on board, join the community and do something creative with your phone down.
00:29:02:17 - 00:29:17:23
Speaker 1
Forbid, maybe stop scrolling, stop binging for a little while and just do something intentional. With that human side of yourself. That's why that's really why we started this podcast. So we're happy that you're here and we'd love to hear what you're working on for sure.
00:29:17:25 - 00:29:19:29
Speaker 2
What was your inspiration this week, Monika.
00:29:20:02 - 00:29:39:25
Speaker 1
Well, I mentioned just some of the things I was talking about. I think just, even like so my first language is an English people, I hate this ESL. ESL stands for English as a Second language and I want to tell everyone, let's set the record straight. That's an insult to a lot of people in the world, for sure.
00:29:39:28 - 00:29:48:00
Speaker 1
Americans are so coddled and spoiled and not educated the same as other countries that we, most Americans, only speak one language.
00:29:48:01 - 00:29:48:23
Speaker 2
Yep.
00:29:48:26 - 00:30:00:18
Speaker 1
That's not the case for most of the people in the world. Yes, ESL is almost an insult to say it's a second language and it's just I work with non-native English speakers.
00:30:00:20 - 00:30:05:01
Speaker 2
Did they change it to like, English as a foreign? Yes, the.
00:30:05:01 - 00:30:15:18
Speaker 1
F l it's a little different, but then then it becomes a foreign language, which means that they're also insulting, because what if these people speak this language every day? It's no longer foreign.
00:30:15:18 - 00:30:15:27
Speaker 2
Yeah.
00:30:16:04 - 00:30:19:29
Speaker 1
No, it's just another language. People speak multiple languages.
00:30:19:29 - 00:30:26:15
Speaker 2
Yeah. And the non-native English speakers, I know English is like their third or fourth language.
00:30:26:17 - 00:30:52:16
Speaker 1
And I try to remind my clients, my students never say, sorry about my English or my English. Isn't that great? Or never say anything like that. Instead, put it on the listener, the person you have a conversation with and say, oh yeah, sometimes people, have trouble with accents because it has nothing to do with the speaker and everything to do with the listener.
00:30:52:16 - 00:31:03:25
Speaker 1
There's lots of beautiful, different ways to pronounce words, and there's no right and wrong. I'm sorry there's such a spectrum of language, and it's beautiful and amazing and incredible that people can speak multiple languages.
00:31:03:25 - 00:31:05:06
Speaker 2
Yep.
00:31:05:09 - 00:31:24:14
Speaker 1
So that's definitely an inspiration. And mine is, I saw this little when I was scrolling on my phone. I saw this little comment, this comment by Reese Witherspoon, who's an actress I admire. She's my age. If you ever watched man in the moon, I think that was her debut.
00:31:24:14 - 00:31:25:25
Speaker 2
My god, throwback.
00:31:26:02 - 00:31:50:03
Speaker 1
I know I made you watch that one. I'm like, this is an important movie for me. I had never seen or heard of it. So it's such a good movie. It's just a small movie, but it's worth watching. But I had never seen sisters, two sisters depicted so well because they love each other and they hate each other and they fight and there they compete and I, I related to that movie in so many ways.
00:31:50:05 - 00:31:53:20
Speaker 2
Shout out to my sisters because we don't do that.
00:31:53:22 - 00:32:07:15
Speaker 1
I know I, I really had a whole new idea of what sisterhood meant when I met you and got to see how you and your sisters interact and support each other, and you're not mean or competitive or underhanded. I'm like, what?
00:32:07:18 - 00:32:12:16
Speaker 2
We're very lucky. We're very fortunate that that is the way we operate. Yeah.
00:32:12:18 - 00:32:37:01
Speaker 1
My sisters and I are like, I'm doing explosion hands. For those of you just listening. Okay. That's fine. Where was I Reese Witherspoon? Inspiration. Reese posted a short little video of talking about how she wants to kind of change the expression instead of saying, chase your dreams, follow your dreams. What are your dreams? She's like, everyone has dreams.
00:32:37:01 - 00:33:01:21
Speaker 1
Those are kind of fun to come up with. But she's like, I want people to follow their talents. What are your talents? Chase those, nurture those. And I thought that was just so good because talent is different than a dream, right? And talent is isn't necessarily your work experience or your skills or your certifications or whatever degree you may or may not have.
00:33:01:24 - 00:33:11:25
Speaker 1
Right? Your talent is specific to you, and it does change how you think about how you approach things, where you're striking, oh, I have a.
00:33:11:25 - 00:33:13:23
Speaker 2
Love hate relationship with this, I think.
00:33:13:24 - 00:33:14:21
Speaker 1
Oh, tell me, tell.
00:33:14:21 - 00:33:25:06
Speaker 2
Me. I just think it's interesting because I can definitely tell you what my dreams are. And they all tend to be very, like in a creative vein.
00:33:25:09 - 00:33:25:21
Speaker 1
Okay.
00:33:25:22 - 00:33:31:15
Speaker 2
But if you want to know what my talents are, they very much are in a logistical vein.
00:33:31:17 - 00:33:32:08
Speaker 1
Yes.
00:33:32:08 - 00:33:48:29
Speaker 2
It's a little, you know, at odds with each other. I guess I tend to be very logistical, very don't do it until you have it perfect. Which is counter intuitive to creativity, which is all my dreams. So that's interesting.
00:33:48:29 - 00:34:12:20
Speaker 1
I think. I mean, to your point, I think you can have a talent of artistic creativity endeavors. You could be talented at that, but your method of approaching it might be full of all those logistics. And I think that's fair to say. But but you're right. There is a difference in, I think, one of my talents, maybe it's considered a characteristic is that.
00:34:12:22 - 00:34:37:11
Speaker 1
Free spirit approach things with no fear. An experiment, I mean, that is a talent of mine to like, pursue artistic things without any hesitation for sure. But that might just be the way I approach things. So we're working on I thought I was inspired this week by what is my talent? And if you have something that comes to mind, it might be a hard question for you.
00:34:37:11 - 00:34:58:12
Speaker 1
What what are your talents? What are you going to nurture and chase and give time to prioritize time for? And I'm working on my craft of writing. I'm not there yet. I, I think it's an ongoing process. I don't know if there's a yet. You don't know when you're there, but it's a craft I want to keep pursuing, keep practicing, keep fine tuning.
00:34:58:15 - 00:35:08:04
Speaker 1
Oh, you know what I just realized? But last week we mentioned we started our vision board. Yes, I'm going to put Reese Witherspoon's face on it.
00:35:08:06 - 00:35:10:02
Speaker 2
Okay. Why?
00:35:10:05 - 00:35:37:27
Speaker 1
Sorry, this is all related in my head. I think it's so obvious, but I'll tell you, I was just thinking, writing, building my craft of writing and wanting to keep writing my short stories, writing my books, potentially writing a play, maybe a screenplay, which we've already talked about. Wanting to write a screenplay. Yeah. Someday. But Reese Witherspoon, besides being a great actress, is, really, big on, promoting female creatives.
00:35:37:27 - 00:35:44:26
Speaker 1
And she has a production company and she adapts books and think she even has a book club, a monthly book she recommends.
00:35:44:27 - 00:35:46:15
Speaker 2
Club or whatever. Yeah.
00:35:46:17 - 00:35:50:15
Speaker 1
Yeah, I forget her production company, like, hello Sunshine or something like that.
00:35:50:15 - 00:35:53:03
Speaker 2
It's something really, actually sounds right. Something like that.
00:35:53:03 - 00:36:12:15
Speaker 1
Yeah. I think I did notice that after, What's that show? Big Little Lies or something that she helps produce. But anyway, I'm getting off track. The point is, I'm going to put Reese Witherspoon on my vision board, because I really want to imagine some of my things that I'm writing potentially, like getting a bigger audience. And that would be a way like.
00:36:12:20 - 00:36:15:07
Speaker 2
Ending up in front of her. The what I know.
00:36:15:07 - 00:36:38:04
Speaker 1
Whether it's her book of the month recommend or if I get my collection published or if it's, a play or a screenplay that can be adapted. A lot of all of my stories have are led by strong females. Like, those are my protagonists. So anyway, that's great, inspired by what Reese said, but also what she does for art.
00:36:38:06 - 00:36:49:22
Speaker 1
I swear this is not a commercial to promote Reese Witherspoon. Yes, that's really funny. But, yeah, she said that thing about chase your talents instead of chasing your dreams. And I thought that was just really smart.
00:36:49:24 - 00:37:17:21
Speaker 2
Make sense? I mean, chasing your talents will eventually get you to your dreams if you, you know, approach it via what you're good at or what you what your strengths are. Your strengths are. That was so garbled. Sorry. Yeah. I, I like it. I also, like I said, I'm a bit at odds with it, but, that's just because now I'm pouting internally, so.
00:37:17:24 - 00:37:36:11
Speaker 1
Like, you're grumpy clown. Well, we are going to continue to make art. We're going to continue to find inspiration in places even when the world is totally chaotic and violent and awful. Sometimes we're still going to be here making art. We're still going to show up every week. So thank you. Thank you for listening. Thank you for watching.
00:37:36:11 - 00:37:48:00
Speaker 1
Thank you for commenting and liking and following and sharing. Yes. All of that is awesome and we appreciate it. We are wrapping up episode eight as we art. We did it.
00:37:48:05 - 00:38:07:28
Speaker 2
Like Monica said, we're super appreciative. That was rough. Appreciative that you are here and, participating. And we're growing a community and people are out there creating because like we said, I think that's what's going to save us all in the end is the creatives.
00:38:07:28 - 00:38:10:05
Speaker 1
So yes, I agree.
00:38:10:10 - 00:38:10:25
Speaker 2
Yeah.
00:38:10:28 - 00:38:12:26
Speaker 1
So thank you for being here. We'll see you next week.
00:38:12:26 - 00:38:14:13
Speaker 2
Yeah. Bye bye.