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Seth Holehouse is a TV personality, YouTuber, podcaster, and patriot who became a household name in 2020 after his video exposing election fraud was tweeted, shared, uploaded, and pinned by President Donald Trump — reaching hundreds of millions worldwide.
Titled The Plot to Steal America, the video was created with a mission to warn Americans about the communist threat to our nation—a mission that’s been at the forefront of Seth’s life for nearly two decades.
After 10 years behind the scenes at The Epoch Times, launching his own show was the logical next step. Since its debut, Seth’s show “Man in America” has garnered 1M+ viewers on a monthly basis as his commitment to bring hope to patriots and to fight communism and socialism grows daily. His guests have included Peter Navarro, Kash Patel, Senator Wendy Rogers, General Michael Flynn, and General Robert Spalding.
He is also a regular speaker at the “ReAwaken America Tour” alongside Eric Trump, Mike Lindell, Gen. Flynn.
Welcome to man in America, a voice of reason in a world gone mad. I'm your host, Seth Holehouse. One of the industries that I've decided to put a lot of focus on both in this show and also my personal life is the health industry or what you could call the medical industrial complex. And since COVID, I think a lot of people have realized that this health care industry isn't at all what we thought it was. And while we were raised to think, trust the doctor, he's got a white coat and a clipboard, and he's got the stethoscope hanging around his neck, whatever he says is the best for us because he's the expert.
Speaker 1:Right? Why would you even second guess this guy? I mean, he's been through, what, you know, ten years of medical school and residencies, and he spent, you know, half $1,000,000 on his training, and these guys have been practicing for twenty years. But what's happening, though, is that I think, again, looking at what happened during COVID and especially the fallout from the COVID vaccine, a lot of people and here in America is what we're focused on around the world, but a lot of people have started really second guessing this medical industry. And what we come to find is that the reason we believed it in the first place was that because it has been pounded into us through very, very crafty social engineering and really brainwashing to get us to a place where we will blindly trust the doctor with whatever he says, but that's ending.
Speaker 1:And so joining us today is my good friend, John Richardson, who him and his father specifically have been fighting against this industry for over sixty years, specifically in the area of cancer treatment. They've been demonized. They've been attacked. You know, his father was raided, all for looking for natural ways to cure cancer. But the topic of today's discussion is much broader than that because we're gonna be focusing on the bigger shift that John is seeing and that what I'm seeing as well is that the general public, now there's still some that aren't, but by and large, the general public is really losing trust and faith in big pharma, and they're taking a lot more control for their health, which in my opinion is a really significant event on the path of trying to free humanity from the corrupt control that these oligarchs and social engineers have over us.
Speaker 1:So, hopefully, you find this interview inspiring and positive, and maybe this gives you a little more hope for the future. So please enjoy this interview with John Richardson.
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Speaker 1:Mister John Richardson, it's always great to have you on the show. Thank you so much for being here with us today.
Speaker 3:Seth, it's always a pleasure, and I love, our our banter. And you just you you ask the best questions, and so I'm looking forward to today and and having a great time and and informing people about a lot of the great things that are going on in the MAHA world.
Speaker 1:Well, the best questions are useless without the best answers, and so, which we all I always get from you. So there's always a lot that we can be getting into. But today, I'd I'd like to take a big step back and look at where the overall you can call it the MAHA Make America Healthy Game, I think it's so much greater than that. I think that's kind of a subset of something much larger that's happening. And I think that a lot of this shift really started with COVID and the pandemic and people, I I think, starting to question what their doctors are telling them.
Speaker 1:And I think now what a lot of us have come to understand is that we've been living under not only an occupied government, but I think even more importantly, an an an enemy occupied medical system. Something that happened turn of the century of, you know, last century, the Flexner report came out. We had the Carnegies. We had the Rockafires coming in, taking control of the licensing and really shifting the entire medical system away from the approach of, hey. Heal your body.
Speaker 1:Heal your body through your diet. There's natural remedies that you can use. There's all kinds of preventative treatments that are growing in your own backyard that we can use. It shifted away from that to doctors now, even going through medical school and having a fraction of a fraction of training in nutrition, and most of the training being how to diagnose and prescribe pharmaceuticals and pharmaceutical treatments. And I just my sense and and this is why I wanna talk to you because you've been fighting in this.
Speaker 1:Your family's been part of this for for decades and decades, but my sense is that there's a massive shift happening, and people are awakening in in a very large way to the corruption of the medical industry, but also to the fact that there are so many treatments that God has given us that allow us to not live in fear of the c word and and these different things that we become so frightened of. And so what is your take on this? Like, what is your you know, because I know you've got a long history of of this again. What is your overall feeling of what's happening right now?
Speaker 3:Well, I I feel tremendously great about what's going on right right now. I I never thought I would live in a time like this and that this horrible thing that you mentioned that's called COVID really has changed the dynamics. Now you and I both have maybe same opinion or different opinion about what COVID was and what rolled out and all that kind of stuff, But what it did is it created an absolute distrust in in the medical system that used to be everybody trusted. Now there's still a whole subset of people that go, well, if my doctor says I gotta, you know, cut off my toes to save my life, I'm gonna cut my toes off. You know?
Speaker 3:There's still a whole subset of those people. Or if they they tell me to take another vaccine, I'm gonna take that vaccine even though the last one I'm being told is making me sicker than a dog. I'm still gonna take another. There's still that subset. But then there's this absolute tidal wave of people that have woken up.
Speaker 3:And now I'm including, Seth, even MDs. Even MDs I work with. I have a great a good friend, Doctor. Stahl, who has the Plantation Project, and he's an MD. And he's got over 5,000 MDs, not naturopaths, not chiropractors, not, you know, massage therapists, MDs that want him to teach them about plant nutrition.
Speaker 3:What a what a mind boggling statement to make. And so, yes, it I do see an absolute shift in the paradigm, and I see a crumbling of the medical industrial complex. At the same time though, we don't we're not ready for it. Us on our side, I quote unquote, are not ready for like emergency medicine, an answer to emergency medicine for natural answers. You know, if you you break your leg, you're not gonna take apricot seeds, you know.
Speaker 3:But if you if you get really sick or you have like some you're up or you you there's no system that you can go to that where you can get natural answers in an emergency type basis. So there's a lot of work to do and and and we're we're in the midst of of doing that, but I I I totally agree with you that there's an absolute paradigm shift right now. And I've I've been living it and, you know, gone from things that I would get in trouble for saying even three years ago. Now people are saying far more crazy things. I go to a a conference.
Speaker 3:I hear the doctors get up and say things that, like, I just shake my head. I shake my head.
Speaker 1:Which is really interesting, and there's a lot of, this isn't just a opinion and think, well, I I feel this shift is happening. There's actually some concrete evidence that something big is happening and something significant is changing within the medical system. And and a few things. One is just I just went and looked this is a recent poll that was from earlier this year. This is, on a I think it's kff.org, it says, trust in public health agencies and vaccines falls.
Speaker 1:Now, of course, says amid Republican speck skepticism. So us, you know, you stupid Republicans are questioning things too much. Now everyone's questioning things. What it's saying, though, is that share of parents who say they keep their children up to date on their vaccines falls. One in four Republican parents now say they've skipped or delayed some childhood vaccines.
Speaker 1:And this is just obviously talking about the vaccines, but I've seen a lot of other polls and data coming out saying that the overall public trust in the health system, which a lot of us now know through our research and and learning that our modern health system was hijacked, you know, after the Flexner Report, which I think was around 1910 or so, and the entire medical system, the entire approach was changed to what we now know where, you know, again, doctors, they're not training on nutrition. They're training on how to push more pharmaceuticals, how to get people to come in for chemotherapy and everything. And so it just seems like that system is actually falling, not because necessarily some big political action or, you know, even I wouldn't even say not because of someone like RFK junior who's obviously helping it, but I think the most significant thing that's happening is what that poll is showing is that the general public has lost trust in this system. And along with that losing of trust, they are seeking the real answers. They're seeking other treatments.
Speaker 1:They're not if if they think that they have a lump on their body, they're not running off to get a biopsy and then have a mastectomy or or sorry. Not, not mastectomy, but have a Mastectomy. Mastectomy, yes.
Speaker 3:All these ectomies. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Exactly. Well,
Speaker 3:that is a huge shift too. It's like our whole system, our whole medical system is about cutting off body parts. You saw about the Cali means, Cassie means. I don't wanna go on that off on that thing, but really so many people like I've had people say, my mom's just had their third surgery on her colon. Five percent of colon surgeries from the doctors that I talked to that have been doing it for forty years are not useful.
Speaker 3:They're actually damaging to your body. Cutting body parts out is not the answer to healing, Seth. Finding the root cause of why your body is malfunctioning is the answer to healing. But just I just wanna give you this example of how crazy, how much things have changed over even the last year. I just recently spoke at a a an event that was launching.
Speaker 3:It's called the Vital Choice Project. It's it's a young man who's 22, who's fired up about the fact that he thought he was gonna have to spend the rest of his life being sick. He found natural treatments, and then he got tied in with the with the Trump administration, and now he's on this MAHA action committee, which we can talk about. But he started this Vital Choice project and he he invited me to come speak there and he invited other doctors to come speak And I was on a panel, Seth. Think about this.
Speaker 3:Just think about this what we've gone through. I was on a panel with a pediatrician whose offices are in Los Angeles, California. Okay? Just think about that. Okay?
Speaker 3:You can automatically start thinking, does that mean? Pediatrician in Los Angeles. He wrote he wrote a book called Between a Shot and a Hard Place. And he when he before he introduced the book to the public, he went and got his license in Tennessee and Texas because he thought, for sure, the government state of California is gonna come after me and take away my license and do all that because, you know, you know you know what the state of California is like. My dad went to jail.
Speaker 3:So I I'm sitting there talking to this this doctor and and he's not coming from the point of point of view point of view of being anti vaxx, but he he wrote this book. There it is. You you're quicker than me. And I got him to autograph it for me. But he said, John, not only have they not come after me, I have now my practice has exploded.
Speaker 3:I'm being asked to speak on all these huge national podcast. I gotta take time to keep my practice going, but I'm I'm getting inundated with people. And all I want people to do is is look at the science of the vaccines and look at whether or not it's been proven that this works. I'm not anti vaccine, John. The concept of vaccine I've spent ten years of my life studying.
Speaker 3:I understand it. The concept of vaccine is is is something that should be good, but they're introducing 72 vaccines into a five year old in the state of California. And we don't have any testing to see how many of those vaccines work, what their results are. We literally don't even have double blind studies on most of the vaccines. I'm at ninety nine percent of them.
Speaker 3:So here it is. I'm just bringing science back into it, John. And my practice is exploding. And here I mean, Seth, can you imagine having that conversation? This was about a month ago, about three weeks ago, I had this conversation.
Speaker 3:Can you imagine having that conversation with a with a pediatrician from California a year ago? He even knew to get a license in other states. He thought he was gonna to move out of the state. So that's just when you you I'm not that's not me, you know, having a, you know, blue glasses that's looking and I'm seeing the world from my own point of view or I'm in this bubble where I only talk to people that are natural healers. I'm talking to somebody who really was considered the other side just a year ago and now he's waking up day by day and meeting people like me and there's a doctor there from Hawaii that's been a naturopath, an MD for whole life and another doc an MD, integrative doctor from right here in Arizona and we're all talking and comparing notes and one of the the ladies that was an MD from Hawaii said, John, I've read all about your father and Leitro and b 17.
Speaker 3:I'm blown away. I can't believe it. So people are even people from the other side are open to this discussion more than I've ever seen in my life. And that's just a clear cut example of what you're just what we were just talking about.
Speaker 1:Well, also, we're we're used to these stories, as you mentioned, the Rockefellers and the Carnegies, and we have the Gates and the Gates Foundation, where it just seems to be that the wealthier someone becomes, the more aligned they become with this overarching agenda, which, you know, you could root it and say depopulation ideas or some of these concepts that you and I have probably discussed multiple times. But what's interesting that seems to be bucking that trend is what we're talking about before we started recording is that the you know, again, on on kind of public paper, so they say the world's richest woman has opened a medical school. So Alice Walton, obviously, from the Walton family behind Walmart, which, you know, there's a certain amount of distrust I have in in people at that level of society. However, it my distrust isn't so great that I can't see the silver lining to things. What's interesting is that so she just opened a medical school.
Speaker 1:Like, this was just last month. And so she opened this medical school, which okay. It's alright. Okay. So a Walton opens a medical school.
Speaker 1:You'd think that she's probably partnering with Bill Gates or something, but, actually, it's it's the opposite. I also wanna read this little quick paragraph here. So it says, instead of drilling young, physicians to chase symptom after symptom and perform test after test, Alice Walton wants her school's graduates to keep patients healthy by practicing something that most doctors today don't prioritize, preventative medicine and whole health principles, which involve caring for and not just treating the entire person and all of the factors from their mental health, their living conditions, and lifestyle choices that contribute to well-being. Says these those aren't new ideas, of course, but traditional medicine has only paid lip service to them. Experts have noted that while as much as 80 of medical education focuses on biology, about sixty percent of premature deaths are are due to behavioral factors, including lifestyle habits like diet, exercise, and smoking.
Speaker 1:So this is interesting because I I think that one of the big shifts that happened, again, going back a century ago, was the kind of the terrain versus the germ theory and where modern medicine is so focused on, okay. There's all these bad germs and bacterias out there, and you need to have vaccines and antibiotics, and, you know, you need to isolate yourself and six, you know, six feet and, you know, two weeks is slow. It's all this stuff that we've been hearing. But the terrain approach, which goes back thousands of years, is your body is your temple. Keep your body healthy.
Speaker 1:Give your body the things it needs to protect itself from disease. Right? Disease or disease. And we're seeing this shift going back to that. So whatever agenda might be behind her medical school, I'm gonna set that aside, the speculations I might have.
Speaker 1:But if she's teaching these doctors that can now graduate as medical doctors and she's focusing her treatment on what you could say is being terrain, focus on the health of the body, look at the living conditions. I mean, how many people are living in a home full of black mold, toxic mold, and they're developing, you know, cancer or they're developing, you know, lung issues or whatever it is, and the doctors are just saying, okay. Here's a pharmaceutical. Here's a pharmaceutical instead of saying, well, hold on. What about your environment is causing you to be sick?
Speaker 1:Because maybe if we remove the toxins in your home, you're not gonna become sick. So this represents to me a very significant shift.
Speaker 3:It absolutely does. And and I wanna point out, I can politically disagree with Alice Walton, but I can guarantee you she loves her grandchildren and she loves her children. And she may have been brainwashed or maybe brought over to the side of population control or all that, but she still wants her family members to be healthy. She still wants them to be. And so when they mention 80% of the education concentrates on biology, they don't follow it up with biology and how to manipulate it.
Speaker 3:Biology and how to give a drug that changes because all of the medical system, anybody watching is gonna admit that when you go, the first thing they ask you is, you know, what's your level of pain and what can I do to get you out of pain? Can I offer you a pain medication? Can I offer you morphine? That's the first thing the medical system is. It's about treating symptoms and not ever you never hear them the medical if you go to emergency, what's the root cause of this?
Speaker 3:What is the how can we get to the root cause? Let let's just diagnose what it is and then let's come up with the answer, the most cost of you know, the the most expensive answer we possibly can most likely because they just had a staff meeting where they said, we need to sell more of this drug. That goes on, Seth. And so when I'm completely heartened by seeing this medical school because I know people that are going to be giving curriculum to this medical school that would never be allowed at any Harvard or Stanford or any other medical school that is 100 and sometimes 120% supported by big pharma. Now we keep demonizing.
Speaker 3:I keep saying big pharma, big pharma. It really is this complex between the financial system and the Carnegies and Rockefellers and all that, and then the control of our health system. So this breaking of that by Alice Walton is just indicative of the breaking that's across the country that we don't hear about on NBC and CBS, but we do hear about it on Freedom Report, people that talk about the truth. And so if this was the only case, I would I would still be, like, skeptical. But I have a good friend, doctor Avery Jackson, who's opening the same type of medical school in North Carolina where he is a neurosurgeon, but he is awakened to the fact that he was lied to about many things.
Speaker 3:And now he's like, he speaks, like, from my soul when I speak to him, and he's opening a school in North Carolina that's going you're gonna get a medical degree and be a medical doctor. But 80% of his curriculum is gonna be natural answers and terrain and, you know, what proper foods to eat or if you've got the cold, should you take how much vitamin c should you take or how does that interact with iodine? Or how does it interact with niacin? Or are you low on iron and need to be higher? Of these things that we've spent very little dollars on studying, doctors like Avery Jackson are are are bringing out.
Speaker 3:And one more quick thing to give you an example is that before RFK junior even became the head of HHS, I met with a childhood friend of his that he grew up with that came to my office, Seth, and told me that one of the thing and this was before president Trump got elected. He said, one of the things I've been tasked to do is find a campus for the first medical school that we're gonna help support that's gonna be 80% nutrition and 20% allopathic. And he told me that before I had heard from Avery Jackson, before I heard about this from the richest woman in the world. So again, if it's on the surface in, you know, general, the what we call the deep state media, then you know what's going on all over the place in the quiet in the quiet corners of our country. And so that's what's so thrilling to me, Seth.
Speaker 3:Just seeing that article you just showed shows that it's it's going on elsewhere, but we're we're not hearing about it. You know? We're not hearing about the other ones.
Speaker 1:Well and something that came to mind for me was I remember that maybe a year or two ago, I had come across an article about how Walmart was starting to carry a huge selection of organic foods. And I remember thinking to myself, well, you know, Walmart you think of Walmart as being the lowest of the low. Right? The cheapest, most mass produced. It doesn't matter if it's coming from slave labor in China or, you know, slave, you know, farms down in South America.
Speaker 1:They're all about this profit and and maximizing profit by, you know, taking the cheapest things possible and selling them to people on a major budget. But when I saw that, and it and it was being explained in an article or a podcast I was watching about this, but they're saying that Walmart was getting into organic food because that's what the public was demanding. And so they they're to. You know, they are a a they're a company that wanna make money. Right?
Speaker 1:So if if the public and the general sentiment is like, hey. We want more organic food, yet they're only giving people just the the trash processed food and heavily sprayed stuff, they're losing an opportunity. It makes me think even with her opening the medical school, she must see where the trends are going. I guarantee she has a lot of data that you and I have zero access to. You know, she has a whole team of probably data scientists that are looking for trends and everything.
Speaker 1:So she's probably seeing, hey. There's a massive trend of people wanting to go back to more natural and preventative medicine, and so we're gonna get in front of that by opening a medical school. So regardless, again, what her intentions are, I think that the fact that she's done that is a reflection of some sort of much larger shift that's happening in the consciousness of people.
Speaker 3:Yeah. And and you reading the article, it points that out. Kids that had applied to the biggest medical schools and got accepted in the world chose this one instead. So if that doesn't who's gonna choose a brand new medical school over a Harvard education five years ago? Nobody.
Speaker 3:There's not a single person you couldn't find. I mean, it would be like one out of a million. But in this case, she's got 48 people that have said, let's do it. Yes. They're getting their education paid for, but they're still they're gonna look at, you know, what what's the value of that education for the versus this education.
Speaker 3:And in the trenches, I'm talking to MDs who are saying tearfully, John, I have to relearn everything I learned over the last twenty years through this new this new paradigm that we're in because my my customers, my patients are asking for this. I'm getting it from the grassroots. And so the more you and I can teach people that they don't just have to trust someone in a white lab coat because I can slip on a $40 white lab coat. Doesn't make me any more educated, but the population has been taught to believe that if someone has a lab coat, all of a sudden, what they say goes. And so we are free.
Speaker 3:We have the freedom to push back. And so what, you know, what you're saying is absolutely what I'm seeing on the front lines of this battle that I've been fighting literally my entire life, and my family's been fighting for sixty years. We're seeing these victories. However, we're still we're we're gonna get these people that we used to mistrust, you know, completely because they we thought they were evil that are gonna be coming over to our side for whatever reasons because of, financial or control reasons. So it doesn't mean we trust them completely.
Speaker 3:We still have to have our blind we can't put our blinders on, but we we also have to be willing to accept the fact that, you know, just like you've seen American Eagle had the advertising with somebody with good jeans or whatever, you know, that's made an entire splash. That would have been, you know, completely shut down all, you know, five years ago, whereas the population is going, wait a minute. There's nothing wrong someone being beautiful and telling me about jeans. There's, you know, there's all these type of things where where the even the corporations like Target this year who, you know, I stopped shopping at, didn't have their whole LGBTQ 17 pluses section because they saw the marketplace was not was not supporting that, you know. And and you and I are probably both at the same thing, live and let live, but not live and let live and then try to overpower me and get my kids to to, you know, trick my kids into having surgery at six.
Speaker 3:So it it got so far that way that the general population, eighty percent of people now, are at least awakened to the fact that that we're not doing it. And that is what's pushing all this good news. That's what's pushing all this good news.
Speaker 1:Well, so I'm glad that you mentioned the the doctor's perspective. Because as much as you could look at the general public in America and say, yes, we've been heavily brainwashed really for, you know, the past century. But, know, once Edward Bernays came in, they brought in the modern advertising. They really took over a lot of the control and the social engineering to create what the modern American has become, standard American diet, trust your doctor, trust the science, etcetera. So as brainwashed as we are, though, I know that for a lot of people I've talked to, that the brainwashing that happens in a a medical degree, someone who goes to college, you know, get gets hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt to learn medicine, is given you know, intentionally being taught somewhat of a god complex of that you are the healer.
Speaker 1:You are the above the average person. They should just trust you blindly. I would say that I think the doctors, the medically indoctrinated people with the MDs, are probably one of the most difficult segments of the population to have awakened to this. Because for them, they're awakening not just to, oh, wow. I well, you might I've been lied to, and my doctor might have been wrong, but they're having to go through the process of thinking, wow.
Speaker 1:Was this, you know, half $1,000,000 investment I made into a a Yale medical degree or whatever it is, and all the blood, sweat, and tears was all that? Was I being misled? It's a much bigger about face that needs to be done. And so as another measurement of this awakening process, share what you've seen with the doctors, say, coming from, you know, even five, ten, twenty years ago, how what you've done and and I'll just do a quick kinda segue to your family. Your father is one of the early pioneers of leotrile, of amygdalin, of using the the substances and the compounds found in apricot seeds and other things as a very effective means of, you know, helping people with cancer.
Speaker 1:Right? And he was demonized very heavily. You mentioned for sixty years. Your family's been fighting this battle. So what have you seen in the shift that's happening within the medical community, say, from a decade ago to now?
Speaker 3:Well, I I can give some, a clear example. Someone named Simone Gold, who's a friend of mine, and I I work with her organization literally, every week. We meet for an hour how we can further what we're doing. Simone is an attorney and a medical doctor trained, on her own words, completely about pharmaceuticals, chemotherapy, radiation, the treatment of cancer, vaccines, all of that. But what she experienced when she stood at the SCOTUS, you know, five years ago and told the world, wait a minute.
Speaker 3:Wait a minute. Hold on. We we have ivermectin that's working incredible. We have hydroxychloroquine, which is helping people get get rid of the symptoms within twenty four hours of this COVID thing. Wait.
Speaker 3:Hold on. Before we start, you know, giving people, remdesivir, which fifty percent of people have liver damage and many of the people that took it died. Before we do all that, let's use these other treatments. Well, what the demonization that came upon this I don't call her a poor woman because she's a very strong, successful attorney doctor. The demonization that came upon her was exactly what my dad went through.
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Speaker 3:And I heard her story again. I just said, you know what? I'm gonna walk up to her and talk to her for tell her about dad my dad's story. And I did. And Simone instantly clicked and said, oh my god.
Speaker 3:Talk to Dana. She's my my chief operations officer my chief medical officer, doctor Dana, who, by the way, was the head of one of the largest hospitals in Chicago with a 6 or 7 figure salary. I'm not gonna talk about it, but they were trying to force her to get the vaccine. It was against her religious beliefs because of what was in the vaccine. She she knew what was in it, but she was completely bought into the MIC at this point of her life.
Speaker 3:But then when she saw what was happening to her colleagues who were getting the vaccine and they and some of them were getting sick immediately, some of them were having heart attacks, She knew she didn't wanna do it. So she basically gave up her career at the same time, didn't even know someone goal at the time, was giving up her career because they were forcing her to get this, and she didn't wanna do it. So so this I met these two people and and I've continued and so now they have started an organization called Gold Healing and Wellness Gold Care Healing and Wellness. And it's a it's a membership driven organization but it's growing by the day of of of people in the public that are signing up for $10 a month and now they're getting access to integrative doctors and the amount of doctors that are that I'm being introduced to that are are all waking up by the droves to to to not say so much that everything I learned was horrible. A lot of the stuff I was taught was just one-sided.
Speaker 3:It's like going to a restaurant, Seth, your favorite restaurant, and when they see you walk in, they cut out half of it that is that's all the healthy stuff. So you go to your favorite restaurant and they take off all the organic food and the, you know, the non GMO and all that, and they give you only the this side of the menu that's that's that's made just for you. That's what the medical education is. So it doesn't mean that you can't continue to use this this education, but you've got to learn all of this. And I'm seeing it in in so many different ways.
Speaker 3:I could just start naming the names. An MD named Scott Stoll that has the Plant Nutrition Project out of out of Tennessee that's having has 5,000 medical doctors that wanna be taught about plant nutrition. He's also doing retreats for the bottom 10% of Whole Foods employees because he happens to be friends with the CEO of Whole Foods, who you and I can do a whole show on Whole Foods. I'm not promoting Whole Foods here, But he takes the bottom 10% least healthy people, takes them to a treat, and is wiping out disease. And he he said to me, John, it's miraculous what's happening to these people that I'm teaching how to eat properly, to eat apricot seeds, to eat the seeds of fruit, to get organic food, and within ten days, their life they've had disease for seventeen years that's just being wiped out.
Speaker 3:So I'm seeing it all over the place, Seth. And I could go after case after case after case of this of these medical doctors, that are that are are waking up and wanting to to learn this new system and having to transition. And, you know, some people are like, well, how am I gonna make the millions that I paid to get my education? Trust me, the market is out there, Seth. People will pay out of pocket or they'll pay through this new system we're doing where insurance is gonna cover natural answers.
Speaker 3:People will choose whether they can go 500,000 for standard care for colon cancer or they can go 50,000 for naturopathic, learn about, your your diet, you know, get all the right nutrients, be tested. And this one gets covered by insurance. The the choices are gonna be very quickly that they're gonna even out, and it's happening as we speak. There's a a clinic here in Arizona that is that is doing integrative medicine and advertising that they're having 3,500 times better results with the same cancer as an oncology department. They're advertising it.
Speaker 3:They're putting it out there on the shelf for UC. The problem is that because of this transition, it's costing a 115,000 out of pocket instead of 500,000 that's covered by insurance. We need to get it to where it's like 20,000 or 25,000 or whatever. We need to get it so that's more accessible by the general public, and and that's happening as we speak. So it is a wild west.
Speaker 3:There's this tidal wave, and the biggest need is, you know, clinics and the frontline clinics that that take people in and and test them and figure out what's wrong with them and then give them both the answers. Both you know, you can go chemo radiation surgery or you can go with this answer and here's the results that come from both of these. Or you can try one and move to go to the other or that's the that's the tipping point. Now you know what choices I would make, Seth, because you know me for years. But that doesn't mean I'm gonna force that on anybody that believes that chemo radiation surgery is their answer.
Speaker 3:You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make them drink. That's that's that's the but when you look at the science and see that ninety four percent of the people die within five years that go this way and this huge percent of people survive and thrive by going this way, you can't you can't just keep doing the same thing you've been doing. And and that's what's happening.
Speaker 1:Well, I think one example that I can give you is my own wife. So after the birth of our second child, a few months after that, she noticed that she had a large lump on her thyroid. And now her mom had similar the same thing. And and so her mother actually had they removed her thyroid when maybe she was in her thirties or, you know, her her mother. And since she's been on medication ever since because of that, because they they literally just cut the whole thing out.
Speaker 1:And so what's interesting, though, is that, you know, my wife, she was concerned. I I you could feel it. You could see it. You know, I'd touch it. Like, oh, it felt like it was almost like the size of, like, the tip of your thumb.
Speaker 1:Like, it wasn't a small thing. And now if she would have went the, you know, modern medical approach, they would have done a biopsy. They would have probably recommended that they, you know, either remove part of it or remove the whole thing, or they would have done radiation or the the the combination of, hey. Let's cut it out, then let's radiate it just to make sure. But instead, what she did is she did a combination of, of Letroil, so, you know, b seventeen daily, red light therapy, and chlorine dioxide, you know, CDS, and a few other kind of things as well.
Speaker 1:But after, you know, using those three things, after a couple of months, it disappeared, and you can't even feel it anymore. And, you know, and so, you know, we have a we have a red light that maybe was, you know, $1,500 or so, and we had your you know, the Latroel, which was, you know, $40.50 bucks for a bottle. So for the total cost, maybe her entire treatment, you know, CDS, which costs almost nothing. Right? Maybe she spent a couple $100, and and she cured it without going through any kind of surgery.
Speaker 3:Let me correct you. I wanna make sure you
Speaker 1:correct me. Yeah. Please do.
Speaker 3:Yeah. She didn't cure it. She allowed her immune system to fight it off. And that's the big There
Speaker 1:you go.
Speaker 3:People to really hear. It's not about our quick fix society says, oh, I went and cut it out. And now, you know, Ryan Sandberg, the baseball player just, said in December 2024 after six months of chemo radiation, I'm cancer free. Six months later, he's dead. So they they they could have said December 2024, I cured it.
Speaker 3:Even people natural. I I could go off of the story. I have a good friend doctor here locally that got wiped out that wiped out a patient's cancer twenty five years ago using leotrol, you know, all ozone, all these things, these wonderful things that you can use. He's an MD, but that patient six years later went back to his old diet, went back to eating the same way, doing the same thing, and it came roaring back worse than before. And so you could go, wow, that didn't work.
Speaker 3:That treatment didn't work. So the doctor sat down with me. He's a good friend of mine now. He said, look, I'll do this again. I'll go through with you with you this again, but you've gotta promise me that you're gonna stay the rest of your life, you're gonna stay, you know, 80% good.
Speaker 3:You can go off and eat some cake and do these things 20%, but mostly, you're gonna you're not gonna just abandon what what I'm showing you to do so you can avoid it. That gentleman did. He promised he'd do it and he's alive twenty five years later. Have originally with terminal cancer twenty five years ago, still alive. So it's very key that everybody listening hears.
Speaker 3:It's not about me selling you some more apricot seeds or selling your wife some more b seventeen. It's about we don't have it in our diet. If we did, I wouldn't exist. And and my dad said if if people would just eat the proper foods, organic proper foods, they wouldn't need to worry about cancer ever. So cancer is an immune deficiency disease and some of your audience is hearing that for the hundredth time maybe.
Speaker 3:It is absolutely a deficiency in red light, enough red light in ozone, in natural God given foods but primarily the killer, the one that kills the cancer before it ever metastasized, that's the big key, is the amygdalin. And it's scientific proven and that's why people need it in their diet. So it's not something you do for six months and then give up and go right back to your old American diet with all the poisons in it and then no nutrients and all the rest of packaged food, you can have some of that some of the time for fun. Primarily have a god given natural diet where and and you and you can live a long healthy life like the Hunza's. Hope we get to this.
Speaker 1:Oh, yeah. Well, actually, that's what I wanted to go into next is because, again
Speaker 3:That's fantastic. I'm so happy to hear that story. Seth, got the same story from Tom Renz's wife. Six percent chance of living with her breast cancer. She's alive and well, cancer free.
Speaker 3:She's cancer free. She's not cured.
Speaker 1:We have Good point. Good point. Words are important.
Speaker 3:Yeah. Right.
Speaker 1:So I I wanted to bring up this this article too because, again, this is another indicator that the there's a shift happening. So your your father, as we as we discussed, was one of the early pioneers of amygdalin, which is a substance found in primary apricot seeds, but also apple seeds, lot of other places in nature, but it's most dense in apricot seeds. And he found and and he really pioneered how powerful that substance was in helping people people's bodies rid themselves of cancerous cells. And so he was demonized so heavily. You've been demonized.
Speaker 1:You've had so many hit pieces about you. Yet this is just last year, an article that was this is on CNBC talking about people in this remote valley live to 100. They follow five distinct diet and lifestyle habits for longevity. So okay. Interesting.
Speaker 1:So people in this valley that lived to be 100, and we hear these stories of, like, why is it that one little village that drinks this one goat milk never has cancer? Well, maybe it's the goat milk. Right? So, anyway, what's interesting in this is you scroll down, and you go to it says, okay. These people, it says, with minimal amenities and rudimentary health facilities, studies have found that the average life expectancy there is around 100.
Speaker 1:Absolutely incredible. Okay. Let's look at the number one thing. Number one, they consume apricot seeds and oils. This is CNBC mainstream media pointing out that these people even though you go on to so many different places, you Google search can apricot seeds cure cancer?
Speaker 1:And everything's gonna come up, and it's gonna say, it's got cyanide. It's gonna kill you. Yet here is CNBC publishing that this village lives to be on average a hundred years longer. And the number one thing they list, the first thing, they consume apricot seeds and oil. It says apricot trees are one of the most important local crops in the valley.
Speaker 1:Studies have shown that apricot seeds can help fight cancer and other sources of inflammation in the body in part due to a compound called amygdalin. Now the they they linked to this study. Here it is on NIH PubMed. It says amygdalin from apricot kernels induces apoptosis, which, if I'm correct, is that cell death. Right?
Speaker 1:Apopto apoptosis.
Speaker 3:They they use the complicated words so that when you read it, you go like, well, what's it? I don't want apoptosis in my body.
Speaker 1:I want that. And causes cell cycle arrest, which, again, more confusing terms, and cancer cells. So this is this is huge that they're coming out now, and they're, again, even mainstream media is showing people that this seed that comes directly from God, it never passes through a factory or never passes through some sort of synthesizing and gets into a pill bottle just to seed itself. So walk us through because I know this has been something that that has been part of your not just your mission, but your family's mission. Walk us through what what this represents, this this shift.
Speaker 3:What what it represents is the I I I know more than ever that they'll they allow certain information to get through, you know, so they can have plausible deniability. When the when the walls come crashing down on the lies they've told us about They've raised trillions of dollars through the National Cancer Institute. The National Cancer Institute president makes millions of dollars a year. They're not looking for they're not actively looking for a cure for cancer. If they find one, these people all go out of business.
Speaker 3:All this fundraising goes away. There's so much industry built on the fact that cancer is a disease that's treated by millions of dollars of treatments, but yet they have to tell the truth. They have to tell the truth so that when this all comes crashing down, that people they can say, well, we told people but nobody listened. Nobody listened. It wasn't, you know, we we published an article in CNBC.
Speaker 3:See, it's still there. But there's been we have found Seth at least 40 NIH studies about amygdala and how it works and its factors and how it is anti inflammatory. It's anti parasitical. It helps with lung capacity. It allows you to have more oxygen and carry capacity of blood.
Speaker 3:It grows hair. We found studies that say it's cavity. Literally anti cavity is the compound B17. But yet it's been demonized by the medical industrial complex so much so that you ask the average person on the street and they'll go, Oh, this doesn't have cyanide in it. Doesn't that have, I've had people say strychnine, they just think, but God said, just listen people, God said in Genesis one twenty nine that we should have the seed for thy food.
Speaker 3:But we go to the grocery store and it's seedless apples, seedless grapes, seedless watermelons, seedless everything because, oh, they taste bad. They're bitter. We don't want that. And you could die of cyanide poisoning, but yet you'll spend hundreds of thousands of dollars on chemotherapy, which literally is poison. It doesn't have any positive side effects.
Speaker 3:Only six percent of chemotherapy ever gets to the cancer cell. But with this compound, the technology has been proven that it only kills the cancer cell because that's the only cell that has beta glucosidase. These are big words. I'm not trying to confuse everybody. And then rhodinase is the enzyme that protects us and all our healthy cells.
Speaker 3:So there is no cases of people dying of cyanide poisoning. I'm gonna put my reputation on that. I challenge anybody to find me a case where it's actual happened because all the research that we've done and thousands of people have done is these are hoaxes. These are stories about somebody that got rushed to the emergency room because they ate too many apricot seeds. And then quietly they went home and continued taking them and wiping out their c word.
Speaker 3:Wow. That's those you can look at these stories. Oh, such and such gets rushed to the hospital. Yes. If I eat 50 apricot seeds for the first time in my life, the enzyme activity will kill some C word cells.
Speaker 3:I will get a severely upset stomach, but that's called autophagy. It's a scientific term. So And you don't wanna start out eating too many not because you're gonna poison yourself because that hasn't happened but because your body's immune system's not used to dealing with B17. Now I've got all these studies about enzyme activity. Our body only creates enzymes in the foods we eat.
Speaker 3:So the more varied our diet is, the more enzymes we have to deal with those foods. It's a very common sense thing, but our kids nowadays are growing up on food that is absolute just processed garbage. So the only enzymes they're developing are is the body trying to digest these, these garbage with no nutrients in it. So when they come across something that's different, that could make them sick because they don't know how to deal with it. So studies have shown and people know that the more varied your diet is, more healthy you'll be.
Speaker 3:But the more natural your diet, the less processed your diet, the more B17 you have in it. What happens is that the science proves with the like with the Hunza's that it actually kills the cancer cell before it ever metastasizes. If you can do that you never have to worry about the tumors or the lumps or the bumps. And so that's why I say it's never cured. My thirst is never cured.
Speaker 3:It's only prevented for another day. So when I drink this water, I'm not thirsty right now but I will be tomorrow. So don't be confused about the c u r e word. And that's the word that they demonize and say they only cures for cancer are chemo, radiation, surgery. But they call a cure a five year survival and your life is ruined.
Speaker 3:That's not what I call a cure.
Speaker 1:So what's interesting though is that with the Hunza people, and I didn't read the article in detail, I'm assuming that they probably have extremely low rates of cancer. So that's zero. Oh, there. Okay. There you go.
Speaker 1:So zero.
Speaker 3:Yep.
Speaker 1:And so that's They're
Speaker 3:not the only no. They're not the only I'm I'm sorry for interrupting.
Speaker 1:No. Please I
Speaker 3:did well, I do wanna point that out. I just hired a gentleman from Kazakhstan. Great man. I can't wait to have the world know about this guy. But I didn't know when I hired him, he grew up in this country and he said, John, when I was a kid, the apricot trees were like weeds.
Speaker 3:They were everywhere. We had we would dry them on the roofs of our houses and I would eat them as a kid. So when people would talk about apricots, he's being bitter, I'd laugh at them because I I enjoy them. I eat them as snacks. I've done it my whole life.
Speaker 3:But I left Kajikistan when I was 16. So I don't I didn't know, you know, what the situation was with cancer, I never heard about it when I was growing up. So after he met me, we met like four months ago and now we're we're partnering today, I'm meeting him to do some social media. But he said, I called my mom back at home and said, mom, do we do does anybody in our family ever die of cancer? Does anybody know about it?
Speaker 3:And she said, no. We don't nobody has cancer here. This is like one of those Kazakhstan countries that nobody knows about. You know, they're Russian. I don't even know that much about it.
Speaker 3:But he said, those six countries all have apricot trees like weeds. They're everywhere. They eat the fruit, but they all know to eat the seed and they don't have cancer, Seth. So it's not just this one little place that's famous above Pakistan called the Hunza's. By the way, our company has gotten the exclusive rights to buy all the seeds in Hunza because not the because the we don't want the people having them, but we wanna continue to let people know about this.
Speaker 3:So we've literally gone out in the world and find these other societies that don't have cancer. And it's the one thing that's come with all of them is they eat plenty of amygdalin, also known as nitrilicides. That term is for some various other compounds that contain cyanide, kind of like cyanocobalamin. But the fear that people have of it breaking apart is is no different than if you had the fear of when you shake salt on your steak tonight, if you're worried about it separating into sodium and chloride and killing you. Amygdalin will not separate unless it comes in the compound of of beta glucosidase, And science has proven over and over again, the only place you find that in the human body is in a cancer cell.
Speaker 3:What a miracle system that God made.
Speaker 1:Well, and that's and so that's the crazy part is just that they're not using it to try to cure cancer. They're just eating it, you could say almost preventatively, but they're even doing it to be preventative. They're just doing it because they know how healthy it makes you. And it gives it gives the body the nutrients it needs to just not have cancer, to be regularly cleansing those cancer cells. And so so you're you're let me pull up your website here, rncstore.com.
Speaker 1:So, obviously, you know, look. You can go to Amazon right now, and you can find apricot seeds. Great. We bought them before. You can find there's actually good ones on there.
Speaker 1:You can get organic apricot seed. You can find them. But what you have done is, a, you've focused on what you just described, sourcing very, very high quality apricot seeds, but you've also have you sell which is this is what what my wife was taking. She wasn't eating a bunch of apricot seeds every day. She was just taking the Laetrile b seventeen.
Speaker 1:So explain to me what is the like, what is Laetrile b seventeen versus apricot seeds, and how does that work? How does this work as a preventative for people?
Speaker 3:Well, b seventeen is is is the the other name for amygdalin. It was it was it was in the chain of b vitamins, and that's why Krebs named it in the sixties. He he came up with b fifteen which was pangamic acid which is found in the apricot seed and that's for another show. Then b seventeen. So it's it was named b seventeen but the FDA has never approved any vitamins since the nineteen fifties.
Speaker 3:So if Google that, is B17 a vitamin? They say no, it's not actually technically but it doesn't matter. It's a nutrient. It's purified. It becomes Laotrole and in the sixties Krebs was having a hundred percent success rate with treating people with the c word using purified Laotrole if they hadn't done chemo radiation surgery.
Speaker 3:So he had a clinic in San Francisco and he was having this great success. He wasn't an MD. He was a PhD biologist. And so he was doing it on the DL, on the download. That wasn't a turn back then.
Speaker 3:My dad discovered it in the sixties, but didn't start using it until he tried it on our cat. He used b seventeen purified elytra on the cat and it wiped out the cat's c word within weeks. Then he tried it on a patient and the rest is history. Over 6,000 patients and anybody that hasn't doesn't know the story can go back and watch some of our stories. The key thing is that Krebs said get as much b seventeen into the body as you can as quickly as possible along with enzymes and b fifteen if you have full blown c word.
Speaker 3:Doesn't mean don't do what your doctors are saying. Doesn't mean don't eat organic foods. Doesn't mean don't do red light therapy. Doesn't mean all those other things. But do that so that the so that the effects, the natural effects of the purified leiatoril can kill as much of the c word as as possibly available.
Speaker 3:But you need the enzymes as well. But we're concentrating today on the one thing, Seth, that's the most demonized and now is is flooding the world with people are waking up to the fact that if they can just have some killer b seventeen in their bloodstream, they may never get the c word in the first place because the Hunsas don't eat the apricot seeds for health. They eat them because that's all they've ever done. They use it on their they use the oil on their face. We've pressed the oil out of the seeds, and and the the the ingredients in this little bottle of oil are just apricot seed oil.
Speaker 3:We didn't add any additives or anything else, so we're making it available to people. But like you said, I've had people say, can I just grow an apricot seed in my backyard? It's the same thing. Absolutely. That's what I'm hoping that people realize this is a nutrient like vitamin c that prevents scurvy.
Speaker 3:Vitamin b seventeen will prevent the c word. For years, I had to hide behind, you know, confusing words and don't say too much. Now I have so much proof, Seth. So many documented, case histories that it's overwhelming. And so it's not anymore, oh, prove it to me.
Speaker 3:I've got the proof. I've got the stories. I've got the doctors out there doing it right now. Wake up audience. Wake up people and get it into your system so you don't have to worry about the c word.
Speaker 3:You don't have to have the news that I've been diagnosed with a deficiency disease. And now they wanna cut organs out of me and poison me to help me fix a deficiency disease. It's crazy.
Speaker 1:And so if somebody wants to start taking this preventatively, which actually like, my my mom, for instance, you know, she takes every day. And she's even told me that she's noticed her nails are growing better. Her eyelashes are growing thicker, which is actually, she was just here this past weekend, and she said, Seth, I'm just curious. I've been doing the late trail for about, you know, two months now, the b seventeen. And she said, do you know of any kind of side effects that cause my nails to get stronger and my eyelashes?
Speaker 1:And I said, I don't I don't know. I'll ask John Richardson. But, so she she's taking it preventatively. But if someone wants to just take this preventatively, what do you recommend? So the website, which I'll put in the link below, rncstore.com, go to shop.
Speaker 1:Right? So we got Laetrile and b seventeen supplements. What do you recommend for someone in terms of they wanna say get, you know, a monthly supply of this just to be taking along with, say, whatever other vitamin or, you know, their daily mushroom that they're putting in their smoothie, whatever it is. What's your recommendation?
Speaker 3:Yeah. We've always, kind of we put together the prevention bundle for that purpose to make it as cheap as possible so that people can do it on a every three month basis. So you take one capsule each day. That gives you a hundred milligrams of b seventeen a day, five hundred milligrams of b fifteen, which is the oxygenator. The c word hates oxygen.
Speaker 3:That's that's been proven beyond a doubt. And then the pro enzymes which are the pancreatic enzymes. I could do a whole show just on the importance of pancreatic enzymes and we call this the prevention bundle. So people could continue eating animal proteins and be able to, you know, be able to digest those animal proteins. My dad said, if you have full blown c word, you wanna get off the animal proteins because that same enzyme used to digest the meat is the same enzyme that eats the outer protein coating that hides the c word.
Speaker 3:So it's it's all scientific, Seth. And I've got so much proof about this that I don't I'm not even in fear of them coming after me because I've got I've got Tom Wrens spent three days here and said, John, you have a legal you know, you have absolutely everything you could possibly need to prove this, and there's no doubt about it. It's been hidden from everybody before, but now I'm telling everybody. So you asked me what I suggest. I don't recommend.
Speaker 3:I suggest that people take in the prevention bundle on a daily basis. And then if somebody has is actively dealing with something or they've had it in the past, doctor Murphy, John Murphy, MD, right here in Arizona told me five hundred milligrams a day. And you know what? My dad said that in the seventies. But Doctor.
Speaker 3:Murphy has 400 patients currently right now taking B17 as part of their treatment program. And it's called adjunctive therapy. So that's the that's that's what that's what it is, and that's the easiest way to get it. You can get on a a subscription and and for set it and forget it.
Speaker 1:Fantastic. So rncstore.com. I'll put that link in the description. Also, we've got a promo code Seth, just s e t h. They'll still get a discount on it, which is always great.
Speaker 1:And, John, thank you so much. It's been wonderful speaking to you. I always feel good after talking to you, and thank you for doing what you're doing, and I look forward to next time.
Speaker 3:Awesome, Seth. I can't wait to see you next time.
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