Cinema Beef Podcast : The Hips Always Get The Lips (Roustabout/Cry-Baby)

Rebel Without A Pause Month begins with a singing a swinging time. Mike and Gary are joined by special guest Richard Schmidt of Hello! This Is The Doomed Show to talk about two such films. It's carnival hype and mid-20s abandonment issues with Roustabout featuring Elvis Presley and Barbara Stanwick. Then, we have fast cars, cool kids and tight pants with John Waters' tribute to such movies being Cry-Baby.

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Episode Chapters:
00:00:15 - Podcast Intro
00:03:41 - Recent Watches: Evil Under The Sun
00:05:15 - Recent Watches: Tap and Scott Pilgrim
00:09:52 - Recent Watches: Buffet Infinity
00:12:25 - Recent Watches: Our Hero Balthazar
00:14:52 - Recent Watches: Action and Gritty Cinema
00:17:42 - Jackie Chan and Dubbing Debate
00:21:59 - Goodfellas: Henry's Women Revisited
00:23:32 - Lee Cronin's The Mummy Quick Review
00:29:17 - Horror Movie Trends and Tropes
00:32:55 - Malignant and James Wan's Style
00:33:49 - Rebel Without A Pause Month
00:34:34 - Roustabout (1964) Trailer
00:38:11 - Roustabout: Mike's First Elvis Film
00:42:39 - Roustabout: Richard's Critical View
00:49:16 - Roustabout: Gary's Appreciation
00:54:37 - Elvis Filmography: Girls, Girls, Girls
00:57:04 - Elvis Filmography: Favorites and Worst
01:05:03 - Colonel Parker and Elvis's Legacy
01:09:04 - Transition to Cry-Baby
01:09:19 - Cry-Baby (1990) Trailer
01:11:15 - Cry-Baby: Introduction and Richard's Praises
01:17:41 - Cry-Baby: Mike's Perspective
01:22:58 - Cry-Baby: Gary's In-Depth Analysis
01:27:18 - Cry-Baby: Waters' Style and Influence
01:34:24 - Public Service Announcement Audio
01:35:59 - Podcast Wrap-up

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Gary Hill

Host of the Butcher Shop podcast series Cinema Beef and Last Call at Torchy's

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Host of Hello! This is the Doomed Show and author of Giallo Meltdown, Giallo Meltdown 2, & Doomed Moviethon.

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Hello folks, welcome to CineMaBeef Podcast. I am with your host, Gary Hill. With me today is Mike Merriman. How you doing, sir?

I'm doing well, trying to keep cool. We hit ninety five today, so uh

It's probably gonna be the using the A C on regular rotation until the end of September. So My pocket book is not ready, but what are you gonna do?

I think it might be fifty fifty degrees here right now. If with with the it looks sunny outside but it's deceiving'cause I I'm kinda cold right now. I

I don't even think our overnight low is gonna be all the way down to fifty.

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Oh boy. With a s special guest, uh LC Earn last time, but this is take two of the show, so I'm proud to say he's back. And uh back to play again.

Um, from Hello This is a Doom show, uh what I always call a real podcast. He he p he puts work into his show, people. Uh

Your great Richard is here. How you doing, sir?

Hi, I'm good. Thanks for having me back again. I'm glad I didn't blow it last time.

No, no, nothing like that. No, I I blew it last time. It's a different set, you know.

That was just practice. That was just practice.

Mm-hmm.

This is the real shit.

It's a little cracky for us, you know. It's all good. Yeah.

Uh, this may change this time around, but um same way we should always start the show. Uh Richard, what have you been watching lately?

Uh let's see. We watched um uh an Agatha Christie adaptation.

called uh Evil Under the Sun from nineteen eighty one with uh good old Peter Uustinov as the U Poiro character.

And uh it was amazing. Well, half amazing. Uh Jane Birkin's in it, Roddy McDowell's in it, um uh Miss uh Avengers herself. Wait.

Avengers? What was the British show with the With uh Diana Rigg.

That's the one.

Okay. My brain said Marvel, Marvel's Diana Rig was there. No, uh it was really good except the score was distractingly terrible. Um

somebody reworked, maybe Cole Porter himself or maybe somebody just ruining Cole Porter's music. So the movie's set in the thirties, so they took a bunch of Cole Porter songs from the thirties.

and reimagined them as a score for a thriller.

It was terrible. It was like distractingly bad. Um the movie was good, but the score was like Lead and I were both like, this is this is wildly awful music.

Uh to to make up for that, um I we also rewatched Scott Pilgrim, uh the f the film.

uh for kinda another twelfth or fifteenth time. I don't know. I'm I'm a I'm a Scott Pilgrim enjoyer.

Okay.

And uh the big one, the first time watch that was actually shockingly great, uh, was Tap.

Starring Gregory Hines?

Um, I don't know if you've seen this one. It's got Gregory Hines and Sammy Davis Jr.

Um, who else is in it? Uh uh just a lot of cool black actors from the time. Um a lot of famous tap dancers. Arthur Duncan from the Lawrence Welk show, I know.

All your uh listeners are big Lawrence Welk heads like Liette and I are.

Man, my grandmother watched fuck out of Lawrence Balk, so I I I I watched way more than I was supposed to, you know.

Oh I'm we have it recorded on uh we have like

at least thirty D V D Rs full of'em because we don't trust that they won't all be taken down. So we watch it like We watch at least three episodes a week, I think.

You can remember my grandmother was Lawrence Welk.

Yeah. It was it was the price is right'cause you know, we always knew when the price is right was over.

Loved it.

It was time to go the fuck outside'cause that's when the stories were coming on. Yeah.'Cause you didn't stick around for the soaps'cause you in trouble then. Um

Yeah. And for some reason there was a ch a show on T V where there was country line dancing.

And like it was like reality TV for reality TV and she knew all the fucking couples and all all their names and everything. And I'm like, well that's a that's odd.

My my Sicilian grandma, you know, l loving this freaking country line dancing show. I couldn't tell you why, but

Oh. She dug it.

That's cool.

So unrelated,'cause she lied dancing Joe. Yeah.

Well, tap dancing, line dancing, they're not that different, you know.

So I always saw tap on like on in like previews and like on the shelf at the video store. Yeah. But it did interest me back then'cause, you know, I knew Gregory Hines from

Running scared and not much else because that was a film. But you know, I was sure I would enjoy it the hell of it now because I knew he was a big

He he's incredible in the movie. He's ripped like'cause we watched White Knights, uh, him and um

Was it Barishnikov? Uh the the the trying to uh get out of the the Soviet Union movie, the defecting movie. And he was in good shape in that. He is

RECK!

in this like from head to toe. Like he looks like hot as hell, man. I was really, really blown away. And all the dancing is credible. It's a sweaty

uh grimy New York movie and th the s I think the soft focus is on like the whole movie. New York looks gorgeous and ugly and it's just ooh.

I loved it. It's that's uh definitely my favorites of the year.

This had to be like around ninety, right? Right around ninety ninety.

Yeah, eighty nine, I think.

Yeah, ninety end of like ugly New York and films really at that point, I would say. You're close to it.

Yeah. Uh my only complaint is and this is not a spoiler, you're gonna wanna slap the shit out of Gregory Hines character, man. He he has the answer to all of his problems in the first thirty seconds of the movie.

And he spends the the next hour and forty avoiding the answer. And you're like, Gregory.

Get your shit together.

But yes, highly recommend.

Ooh boy. Yeah, again I'm I never seen White Nights either. It's just one of those things that didn't interest me when I was ten. You know, but now it may interest me, so I may go back and watch it at forty five. Right.

It's good. It's a solid film.

He's in another film, I was watching all the Hackman stuff when he died and Mikhail shows up in another film, I forget what it's called. But he play he plays a Russian in that movie too, but you know, opposite Gene Hackman in a starring role.

It has one of those it has Soviet type for the for the thing. Uh company business or something like that it's called.

That sounds familiar. I don't think I've seen it though.

Yeah, he's in that movie too.

Let me s let me see, scroll through the old uh letter box here.

I watched a movie, a new movie, called Buffet Infinity. Have you guys heard of this one? This

is madness. So I had heard about this movie kind of being a bizarre concept and kind of a little out there and it's definitely one that's gonna it it's gonna find its audience but

I'll uh when when I explain it, it's either it's either gonna click and be like, Oh, that sounds interesting, or what the hell I'm never gonna watch it. So

What it boils down to is there's two local restaurants. Uh one's like a sandwich shop and one is like a local buffet. And through one hundred percent ads, think like

eighties, early nineties style T V ads. In fact it reminding the style of the movie, the way it's shot and filmed, reminds me a lot of like a WNUF. Um, like the commercials in there where they try to replicate that era.

Um so these two local eateries are going to war basically through like their ads on T V and like that's pretty much the whole movie. Now as you would guess the ads start

kind of like regular, like they don't seem aggressive at first, but then like one restaurant will kind of throw in like a jab at like, oh, we don't just serve sandwiches here. And then the next one will take a jab at like

how buffets might be gross for things sitting under a heat lamp. But it starts very like subtle and then the aggression just pours on and pours on and it it goes places that like I don't wanna spoil like where it ends up going but This is such high concept that uh

Yeah, it it's like hard to recommend for just general audiences. I would say check it out. I mean I kinda had a blast with it. It would it was probably the most different bizarre thing I'll watch this year.

Well, actually I don't know. We're only in May, so we uh we got seven months left. So I can't say that as a matter of fact, but so far It it's the most different kind of creative thing I've seen and on top of that I ended up really liking it.

So it doesn't just get points for being weird. I I also did like it, thought they did a really good job. So I'd recommend it. Um so that's yeah, that's buffet and sanity. I saw

What else? I saw a movie called Our Hero Balthazar and

I don't know if you guys have heard of that one. That was a little m uh indie movie that released here last week. And I believe one of the leads is in Stranger Things or was,'cause I sh I I stopped watching Stranger Things a couple of seasons into it, but I'm pretty sure Um I I think

Well well, if you guys are able to I think it's the the actor, the kid that got stuck in the upside down like in the first season or two that they had to get I think that's the kid. If if you guys are even familiar with Stranger Things. But uh so he's one of the leads and

This movie is all sorts of messed up. This is kind of like a disillusioned youth, uh, Gen Z for the new generation, and it kinda starts with um

Two guys from totally different walks of life. Uh, and of course they have access to the internet.

So you see kind of like the similarities and how messed up your life can be, um, despite your like kind of socio economic status and They kinda connect and there kinda is character arcs here where

who you might think is like the terrible one in the beginning. It's actually shifts and lots of subtext, lots of things to say in this movie. So I would imagine most people are gonna have to catch this on VOD because

Um it was probably like a smaller limited release. I don't live in like the biggest city, but we do have a couple indie theaters here, so I'm fortunate that I get a lot of uh

the under the radar stuff. So I recommend it. I I really liked it. I thought it was pretty gritty and

pretty uh accurate in its uh depiction of kind of the youth of today. I mean, think of all your messed up youth movies of the past and this one I think is good for this generation because it involves kind of the internet and how

Lots of things can go awry. Especially I uh I think it's it's it's very good at the performative nature for a lot of this new generation, when kind of that performative nature can go wrong, when it's like not okay or funny.

to perpetuate the performativeness in what you're doing any longer. So that's about as detailed as I want to get. Nice. Um

One that I've seen many times, but I just took the plunge and got the 4K because it was on sale. Uh Police Story 3, aka Super Cop.

Uh Jackie Chan movie. Yeah, I saw this originally when I released it.

I think nineteen ninety two in the theater when I was Yeah. I was a preteen back then, yeah.

This is the first time I ever saw the Hong Kong cut. Um, from my understanding that there's not a huge difference. I think it's like a five to six minute difference, but it was so cool that the four K had both versions and man

Some of these four K's, like, they just look so good. Like the ones that they really put effort is crystal clear, the sound, the stunts, and and to me this is an era of Jackie Chan where

Uh it it was very peak because like he was always known for his great fight cor choreography and stunts, but I think

kinda the late eighties, early nineties, when possible, they actually put together really good stories and characters too. Michelle Yeo was in this one as well and uh

You know, I I thought this was just fun. Good story and then everything else you would expect and it it that kind of humor injected into it as well. So that's an that's another one highly recommended.

They they announced uh with the arm armor of God for this week.

All her gods.

Eighty years old or yeah.

Yeah.

I'm not sure.

I have project uh I have project A one and two on my wish list. I just the these prices are so outrageous now it's it's hard to justify. Um in the last one I I guess I'll keep it to the third one.

Um I I grabbed the four K of Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Garcia. Um

Nein.

Sam Peckin Paul.

Yeah, this was this was actually a blind bye for me. I I I am uh a fan of Sam Peck and Paul. At least the movies from him I've seen. He he really does that kinda gritty

Uh 70s cinema well. And this one, I mean, it w it's kind of like a modern western almost in the way.

somewhat of a road trip, uh going to track someone down for a ransom and as you can guess things go awry and uh violence ensues and what a finale with that vi like it it gets pretty bloody um at the end and uh

Yeah, the uh I was a big fan of this one. For uh I don't do a lot of blind buying anymore. Again, one because of the prices. It's just I don't want to buy something that like I I don't think that highlighting is just gonna sit on a shelf forever. So um but

If I if the dr if the director has a track record and like consensus reviews have it pretty well reviewed.

I'll I'll make an exception. So yeah, so I'll I'll leave it at that. But it was a it was a productive week of movie watching for me.

Had Ben Gazaro in that movie, right? In it's been a while.

Yeah.

I keep putting it

the police story three, the D V D, not the four K. I haven't gone four K yet, but that even that D V I mean the Blu ray looks amazing and that was the first time I'd seen it since the theater. It was like

Yeah. Yeah, those uh like that era it's like have the memories of like how good they were but when you actually revisit them again and it's just like, Wow, we were like spoiled with like what was coming out in the theater all the time back then.

I think my first Jackie was it was on Joe Bob, I believe. He showed the protector on there.

And uh all I remember uh from that viewing was Jackie fighting Big John Stud, the wrestler, in that movie. That's all I remember about that movie. And Danny Aiello, of course, you know.

Yeah, on Joe Monster Vision, I think it was on for sure.

I don't see for me it's hard to remember my first Jackie Chan movie, only because when I was growing up my dad ha would watch or he'd have a lot of like uh just General Shaw Brothers movies on the TV. So I probably just saw

lots of martial arts movies in general before I could even pinpoint Jackie Chan. Um but I remember Drunkenmaster was pretty early on from what I saw, which I've always loved.

I saw a special on TV and they were talking about Rumble and the Bronx.

Thank you.

And they were showing him getting injured in the stunts and to watch the after the credits of the movie.

Yeah, Blue Burr Blueberry will get in the movie.

to see him break his shit. So I was like, Okay, when's it playing? And I opened up the newspaper. Oh, it's playing today. Guess I'm going to the movies today. So I saw Rumble in the Bronx and dude, that might have been the first

It was definitely the first in the theater. It was one of my first since I was a little kid of an obviously dubbed movie.

Because that dub.

of Rumble in the Bronx, that English dub, is bonkers. I refuse to watch that in the subtitled form.

I don't ever want to see that movie anything but dubbed. It's that dubbing is so good. The the the sister character that he falls in love with and the the little kid next level and all the the bad guys are all freaking dubbed.

Yeah, that that it's it's funny because like a a lot of modern movies like I wanna watch

like original language with subtitles, but there's something about that era, especially and I don't know if it's because growing up most of the Shaw Brothers like when I would watch those martial arts movies, it was usually what was on TV and it was always English dubs.

So in my mind it's like just imprinted that that's what they're supposed to sound like when you when you watch them. And and and now most of the time when they're on any streaming service, the English dub is available. So it just seems like the right way.

To watch them for me.

Uh the first dub I ever saw probably would be uh in a an American dub because

Mad Max, I saw my cousin Joey probably when I was like eight or something. But he had that that bootleg for from the American VHS.

Where they had a different voice doing Mel Gibson'cause he was too Australian apparently. You know

So if you watched it you know. But we're sure most of you guys have seen the the the the full Australian cut, but

Watching it now could I have it on laserdisc. I watch it on lazy disk.

And I watched it on in four in four K or in H D, whatever. And now now it's a different experience. But back then it was the only experience that I knew was hearing this other voice coming out of Mel Gibson, you know.

Yeah.

Uh

Yeah.

Strange.

Um I watch some stuff. I I

I forgot I was watching but I it turned into Goodfellas and you know i i it always um it usually does maybe like six times a year in my Sicilianist will not go away. And now they let me watch Goodfellas six times a year and

You start to notice stuff as as an adult who who knows some things now, you know, and Henry's big problem was the women in Henry's life in my opinion. And it we reviewed this a long time ago and I didn't mention any of this.

Because one uh gets'em fucked because she forgets a gets forgets a fashion accessory or her hat uh fucking Lois

And the other one gets him busted because, you know, the fucking bitch wouldn't wash dishes because yeah, she left all the all the cocaine residue on all the dishes, so he tells her to use a dishwasher, you know, and you know, he gets busted for that shit.

Didn't they say she was she was snorting more than she was like packaging or whatever?

But you know what coke up de Mazar would still get good play for from me all day long, is all I'm saying.

No joke. No joke. Oh my god.

Even now, I don't even care. It's just uh But yeah, that nineteen ninety Den Baser, she just uh coked up or not man. Yeah. It still plays incredibly well, but said it just

We reviewed the film long ago and I mentioned with with Dave Z, like, yeah, this this hits a little too close to home. A lot of these holiday parties and shit, like

talking shit about beating the fuck out of their kids in a special way like they do and you know but yeah, it's it's it's still really great. Um

Today I work, uh,'cause I have a projector in my what I call my forces of of of idiot solitude with my big coworkers that I can't stand. So I turn a movie on the wall. So I watched uh

And I was afraid'cause it's two hours and fourteen minutes long. I watched uh Lee Cronin's The Mummy,'cause you gotta say the whole thing apparently,'cause he's John Carpenter or something and

I was like with this runtime you're getting real fucking silly. And you know, I was not disappointed in the silliness of this movie.

Because there's parts and this is about a family in crisis, obviously. The daughter she gets kidnapped.

She comes back, she's got some kind of mummified spirit in her or something, because we go fucking crazy and tear her skin up and all kinds of nasty shit and take possession of her siblings and all kinds of crazy shit and uh

But there are parts where I'm just laughing at this goddamn movie and I should not be laughing.

But the the f there's a funeral scene there where of course if there's a religious Hispanic grandmother she's gonna die in a movie like this and you you're not disappointed when she does die because let me tell ya, it's hilarious. And uh

Home girl steals her false teeth out of the coffin and puts it in her mouth in a hilarious way and I cannot I'm just I'm fucking dying. I'm fucking dying.

That scene.

man i mean but it's probably I watched no previews for this and I prefer new horror films that way, me not watching no previews for any of the things.

Same, same.

And so I went into blind and you know what? It was one of the best blind experiences that I had. It's it's

as if Resident E I mean R Evil Dead and the Exodus had a baby and made this movie and they made it silly and leave it open for a sequel because guess what? Uh

It's one of those bobba duck situations where the spirit's so alive and they're keeping in the basement things and uh spoilers. Uh but uh It's um really fun and really silly and I I highly recommend it to people to check it out'cause

I had a stupid fun time with it. I know you reviewed this mic for sure.

Wow.

Uh yeah, it was it was definitely funny. Yeah, I I was wondering like man, I I wish I would have just kept the whole thing in Egypt.

Um instead of'cause to me it was just kinda weird once the family left and they were trying to go back and forth with the film between two locations. But yeah, this is

I feel like they basically came up with a way to do mummy mythology within an Evil Dead framework. And that might not be on accident because

um of like Evil Dead Rise. So we'll see. Yeah, it's it was goofy. I r I mean me personally I was hoping for more of like

an actual mummy in um my mummy movie, but um this one's definitely polarizing. Like I I a lot of people loved it. I was like kind of lukewarm on it. I thought the gore was surprisingly

I was not expecting like s what we got in some of that the scenes. Um the like you said, the grandma's death was really well done. I had I had a f some issues with like the mythology and the story, but

I think if you can kind of throw all your preconceived notions out the window of what well I guess no pun intended on that, but uh of what a mummy movie should

you might have fun with it. So, I mean I I'm I'm kind of person that says check everything out. Like unless it's like terrible, I'm j watch it because

I'm just one opinion and I tend to see everything I can in theaters. I'd probably see more if I had time, but raising kids kinda limits you how when you can just

get out of the house to go do something like that. But uh I I have the regal pass, so I see as much as I can. But uh yeah, so I it's probably It's gonna probably hit VOD in not too long'cause I think it is out of the theater since so much has been released.

It just kept just kept ramping up and I didn't care about the exposition. I didn't care about the little girl at that point because she just kept going crazy and Tay doing shit and just get more fucking nasty.

And I just didn't care about like the exhibition of why this this this child is is a mummy child. I didn't care. It just kept getting more silly. So I I didn't take it seriously at that point.

But I but I was there for it in in an odd in an odd way.

You know, I didn't I didn't care about the family imperil, but I really didn't care at that point. It just kept getting more silly.

Defin yeah, it's definitely like to me it was like a possession movie. Like I don't know, d like I could almost f see that, um

Maybe it started out as like more of a generic possession movie and they're like, Hey, what what can we do to differentiate it from every other modern possession movie I know? Uh, tie it in the how'bout she instead of being possessed by a demon, she's possessed by a mummy and

Yeah.

Because I thought the opening of the movies, our like our cold opening, was like the best potential like uh segment of getting like something actually having to do with mummy stuff.

And then from there it just kinda turned into a totally different movie. And some people like it because of that. Me, I was less on board with it because of that, but

Again, that's just kinda like preference thing. I I don't know if I think that makes sense.

I love a traditional mummy film. I I think the the hammer one is still my favorite one of all time. It's the hammer uh fifty fifty eight one.

Yeah. Where he pull he pulls the backbreaker move and just uh

Yeah.

hard to explain. It's just uh it's so fluid that the Crisper Lee backbreaker move in that movie. It's uh

I it's like I'm thinking about Glass.

ten years, last fourteen years of horror movies?

that you've gone to theaters and like what's the percentage of possession movies? Like how are we not like rebelling? Like, dude, can we just

Stop. Like just just stop for a while. It's like how zombie movies stopped for a while.

You know, like everybody was zombie, zombie, zombies, zombies, and then World War Z came out and people were like, Yeah, you know what? We're good.

Here's three here's three separate series of The Walking Dead. Just kidding, here's four separate series of The Walking Dead. You know, it's like so people were burnt out on that shit and you didn't get zombie movies anymore.

You mentioned that and I have a lot more fun with Z Nation, I'm not gonna lie to you than every

Which was hilarious.

It was crazy.

A lot more fun with that show.

But yeah, possession movies I need to break, man. Oh my god.

Let's just let's just put every Japanese horror film that's coming out, just put'em all in American theaters.

Just just subtitle'em or dub'em. I don't care anymore. Just put'em in American theaters and just do that instead of possession movies. Like

This this the same thing's happening to me with like the uh Well like the Thai and Indonesian horror movies where it's like

Okay, a long time ago our family did something that they shouldn't have and they got cursed and our main actor is gonna have to pay for the family sins unless they can figure out how to break the curse.

Now, some of them are really good.

Um Satan slaves I thought was good and pedagore terrified.

Those are like the cream of the crop, but the problem is then you get like five more alongside each of'em and it's like, Okay, like we're doing the same bit and

Yeah, you you're always gonna have new interpretations throughout the years, but sometimes when the volume comes out so close together it's just like what are we doing here?

Yeah, it's big like like east like your virtue says the big stretch like it is hot, like pretty soon like the slashes will be hot. These possession ones like the ones that the ones that catch on

I'm surprised they catch up but not surprised like the smile, the smile movies. I'm surprised'cause once you watch'em they're they're just okay, but you know the the marketing campaign for smiles.

That was way bigger than the movie would ever will ever be. So, you know, it got you in the theater, so I'll give'em that, you know.

I'll also give him credit for that monster because that monster my jaw hit the floor.

When the the big creature reveal thing in those movies, like and then looking up the the post pr the the uh behind the scenes footage and being like Y'all built that shit? Like

And just use CGI to make it look a little better on camera. I wouldn't want to be in the same room with that thing. I don't care if it's fake. Get that thing away from me.

What's the one with the where the tumor comes to life? I forget what which is that the one film?

It's like a giant frickin' inverted mouth going long. It ain't right. Don't care for it.

I'm thinking of one where where like a tumor comes to life or something, it becomes a monster. I I I'm thinking of that movie.

Well malignant.

That's the one. That's the one.

Monkers friggin' movies.

I'm like, well, this has happened, you know.

It w I think that was James Wan too, wasn't it?

I think so. I I'm still at the camp where I think James Wan's best film is Death Sentenced, but you know, that that's me talking shit over here, I guess, you know. It's just uh

We're getting dead silence too though that nobody asked for. That's coming.

Yeah, I don't that's such a weird decision, like

Just leave it alone. That movie's fine. Just leave it alone.

Oh this could go for a whole show. I'm not gonna do that to you guys though.

Today uh we're kicking off Rebel Without a Pause month. I'm excited to do all these shows actually. We're gonna have three in all coming out very close together'cause uh scheduling problems and recording mishaps, whatever. You'll get real fast and uh

Tonight, uh with with Richard. I was excited to do this'cause he uh says that him and his wife have all the Elvis films and I say, Okay, you know, sketch up for me, man. We're doing roused about with with the with the king.

And uh King Cry Baby himself, uh Cry Baby, Johnny Depp, uh John the John Waters movie, uh with that.

I'm gonna go in order of a release on this. And do you rouse them out burst after the trailer?

He goes a new year, aren't you?

Hey, alright, knock it off, buddy.

Get off buddy!

Come on. No, that's karate.

Come on.

All of us!

All worked up, but cutting loose from any dolly who can tie him back.

You better leave, Charlie, please.

Because it isn't right for me.

ايه ايه ايه ايه ايه ايه He's back, he's ready, and here he is now.

Selvis Presley, free wheeling, free swinging on the Carnival Midway, where there's girls galore.

The main attraction for any two-fisted roustaba.

Rouse the mountain, strummin' and humming till the crazy.

Start coming to the girl shows and the side shows.

And danger and daring on the ground.

You wanna try it?

Well, right behind me then. James do.

Do that.

No thanks.

Thank you.

Goodbye, dear.

Where the hell are you?

How could you? Can I?

You know what you just did?

Now forget it, mister. Here, take another ball. There's Kathy up there, too.

Look, I'm a real peaceable man, son, but I'll tell you what I'm gonna do.

I'm gonna pick up one more ball. If you're still standing there after I throw it, I'm gonna break your spine.

Roused about from nineteen sixty four. Um yeah, QPlot synopsis is this.

After a singer loses his job at a coffee shop he finds employment at a struggling carnival, but his attempted romance with teenager leads to friction

Ooh yeah, leaves the fridge with her father. I'm sorry.

I realized it was her father in the movie actually. I didn't even realize yeah, i i it's yeah, whatever. We'll talk about it later. Uh stars Elvis, of course, a as uh

What's he called Charlie Parker? That's not his name. This freaking movie. It's Charlie something, alright.

Yes, Charlie Rogers. Um the great Barbara Stanwick.

Uh you should know that name. Um double indemnity, she's been in tons of stuff over the years. As uh Maggie Morgan, Joan Freeman as Kathy Lean, Laif Erickson with the Viking name as Jo Lene.

Not mess with your man Jolene, another Jolene. Uh

Tons of other people in this movie. Including one Billy Bardy. I had to mention that because yeah, it's Billy Bardy.

It's weird to see him young. We'll talk about it. Uh Roused about Mike, I'll let you go first, my friend. Uh what are your thoughts, sir?

All right, so

first Elvis movie for me, at least all the way through. Uh you know, through the years I've seen clips, obviously I'm familiar with who Elvis is and his music generally.

speaking, uh grew up uh well I didn't grow up with him. I grew up l listening um through my dad's like collection. Uh

at the time it was cassette tapes. I mean he I'm sure he had albums growing up, but uh we would go to like the Swap Meet or just record stores and pick up cassettes and he was a big Elvis fan so kinda learned about his music there. But interestingly enough

I don't remember ever watching Elvis movies with him. He he was a fan of all kinds of movies, but I just don't remember Elvis movies being on the TV. I always kinda knew Elvis was in movies.

Um, so when uh you put together this episode, I was like, Okay, cool, take the first one in. So my first impression was uh I really like carnival circus movies.

um whether their horror genre or anything, I just think that is there's always great potential for what's going on at the carnival or circus when the people go home and you kinda see how the carn just the workers are interacting and mingling and

their kind of interpersonal relationships outside of like just the job of having to work at the carnival. So for this one

I I assume Elvis is playing like a familiar character to what he does in a lot of movies, kinda like the bad boy. Um the all the ladies love him. He's he's kind of juggling, kinda like uh

different relationships or different potential uh relationships. Uh the the authority figures are kinda giving the old shaking fist like you gotta do things our way and

So y you kinda see like the generational conflict here. I mean, at this time Elvis was, I guess, n considered new or modern generation, uh, rebelling against uh the older generation.

So there's a lot of elements uh that I found fun here. Um I thought the musical numbers were pretty entertaining. Um and overall it was

It was cool. Like it was good. Um, but Because I don't have a huge context and reference point for just the Elvis filmography, it's hard for me to

compare it or like where it should place among um his movies. And it makes me wonder like did this setting of this being one of my favorite cinematic settings, did that enhance my uh enjoyment of the movie and is there better out there that Elvis offers in his uh s in his film, so

We will probably find that out shortly with someone who's much more familiar with Elvis' films than me. So for the moment I'll I'll leave it there and and kick it back to you, Gary.

Cole Richard!

Yeah, I am a big Elvis movie fan. Um Lietta and I kind of like throughout our course of our relationship watched all of them together. Uh she'd seen um, so many of them as a as a kid with her mom and I had like never watched them and my parents

um had like the worst record collection in the history of records. So there was no Elvis in my home. So like I'm I was sort of unfamiliar with his music and his films. And then we just got addicted to watching his movies.

And we bought frickin' all of'em as, you know, as cheaply as possible, which uh wasn't hard to do because They're uh I think it's uh

It's just not something that people seek out. I uh not too many people seek out. I mean, obviously I have this wonderful book called Elvis Films FAQ by Paul Simpson. So somebody out there is super psyched about Elvis' movies.

Um

But Roused About is not in our list of favorites. Uh it is a good movie. I think it's a well made movie, and when you compare it to some of his worst

It's it fares very well. It's it's like it doesn't feel cheap or crappy. It's like a real film. Uh but the reason we don't like this is'cause we don't like Elvis movies where he's too much of a dick, where he he rides the line in this movie and then goes over it a few times where you're like

God, stop being a dick for two seconds. Like, oh, it's so frustrating. Um

They did a thing where they changed part of the script and it made him less understandable. So he in this movie he's got a big chip on his shoulder. He can't talk about how he feels.

He he has to be a tough guy and an ass every single instance because he was an orphan raised in um a s a little town outside of Shreveport.

In the original script, according to the trivia, he was a deserter who was in, I'm guessing, early Vietnam and fled during a firefight.

And he was so he was kicked out of the army. So he's got a lot of bitterness and shame about being a deserter.

uh, or a coward or something. I'm not sure exactly uh what the beef was there, but they cut all that stuff out because they didn't want that in Elvis movie. They thought that was too heavy. Too heavy for an Elvis movie.

Uh but I love the carnival setting. Uh just like you, sir. Um it's really cool and it feels fleshed out because uh Colonel Parker, the the the devil, the actual devil in human form, was an old Carney, so they used him as a technical advisor on the film.

and uh the the screenwriter secretly based the villainous

um, carnival guy who's trying to run them out of business and buy up their their carnival and take it over. He based that guy on Colonel Parker.

Still without telling anybody, but everybody who saw the movie was like who knew Colonel Parker was like, Oh, nice.

Um the I got lots of trivia on this one. Uh sharp-eyed viewers will notice that uh I think it's Richard Keel is the strongman for uh good old Jaws.

from uh the the double oh seven franchise is in there. Um apparently Raquel Welch is in the scene at the beginning when uh at a tea a tea house where uh Elvis totally uh picks on some frat boys and starts a fight because he's too proud not to be a douchebag.

Like the works worse speakeasy ever, I swear to the goddamn tea house. Oh yeah.

My God, it's so silly. So silly. Like there's trouble at the tea house. Get the cops out there.

Yeah.

But um he's in the movie with Barbara Stanwyck, as he mentioned. Um he was Elvis is a huge movie fan, and so he was totally in awe of Barbara Stanwyck.

who he said she really helped him as an actor, gave him lots of tips. Um she

did not like being in an Elvis movie. She was very upset about that, but she was, you know, professional and later said that um Elvis was a hard worker and she thought he had very nice manners.

And uh oh the thing I didn't know, apparently Mae West was supposed to be in Barbara Stanwick's role, but because this was an Elvis movie

she couldn't be the star. And as soon as she found out that she would be her name wouldn't be above Elvis's, she bailed on the on the movie.

So imagine May West. And uh this this era would have been so amazing.

Okay.

She got a real Joan Crawford complex going on there, so you know.

Yep. Yep. Exactly. Um One of the other things I learned was Elvis's bandage after his motorcycle accident was to cover a real injury. Uh Elvis loved doing his own stunts during fight scenes.

and got clipped during one of the the the the opening fight scene and had uh a bunch of scars a bunch of scars, a bunch of stitches in his head.

Front from that fight. So luckily he was in a uh motorcycle accident in the movie. So they could have that bandaged up for the whole time.

Um but he later said this was his favorite film, that this is he was he thinks this was his he thought this was his best work. And apparently that was very rare of an opinion because he hated most of the movies that he was in.

Uh but yeah, and I I can totally talk about um my favorite uh my wife's and my favorite Elvis movies. Um but we can do that whenever.

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Yeah, I don't describe it actually. It's the um the third time I watched this because I watched it once for research and once for the first time and once for the second time and it keeps getting better with the um Yeah, he he's viewing really for me because I mentioned the

Carnival Tag is working r working real well in this movie and the people within the Carnival and the lingo within the carnival and

I mentioned Billy Bardi, I've always been a fan of his since I was uh probably as small as small as he is in this movie, you know,'cause'cause of Willow and stuff like that. You know, Billy Bardy has always been in things and

I never seen him young. Apparently he's thirty eight in this movie, according to him in the movie, but uh yeah. Um One thing I like about Elbus' character besides him being a dick through part of it as um

Be really easy to go in this place and in this place and say, you know, these are a bunch of yokels, they're working at a carnival, you know, I'm I'm I'm I'm you know, higher up than them and higher stature and whatnot and

He didn't really. His character kinda respected everything they had going on, like right from the jump, and he was kinda fascinated by it so

Yeah.

I love that about his character in the film. But like the the opening The opening where he just begging to get an ask of whooping his reason.

Sees the Frat boys, I guess he wants to bang their girls or something because Elbers just tears into them through through song, which is that great uh that Poison Ivy League song, which I think is uh

as relevant today as it is back then, you know, it's it's just um it's pretty great and I like that song and the song where he's riding his motorcycle through the country, that song's pretty great and

Elvis's, you know, Carnival Barker c come by tickets of this or that song is is pretty great too and

Of course, cotton candy uh promoting their diabetes, their uh their elders. Good job. Uh

Yeah, cotton candy was part of the food groups back then, I think.

But no, this was fun though. I enjoyed uh enjoyed most things about it. I I I wouldn't think there was really a lull in there where, you know, except where Elvis' dick came back again where he just said, you know what?

You know, I uh homegirls turned me down and so I'm gonna go work for somebody else though. And uh that wasn't a

That wasn't cool, y you know, but whatever, Elvis. And, you know course it's that it's it's that movie. She has to come back and save the carnival at the end of the movie, so with his swab singing and dancing and, you know

Telling folks to come play, you know, that that that that thing where you throw the ball at the little fuzzy things, you know, stuff like that and um but no, I never watched a lot of these Elvis films before either. I um the ones I saw

I saw because I was attracted to Elvis Swimming in the p in the film, if that means anything,'cause uh Oh yeah. I'm a big I'm a big Anne Margaret fan, so I saw Beaver Beaver Las Vegas and I saw uh

I love Nancy Sinatra. So I saw Speedway for sure and uh

couple of the select ones because Jailhouse Rock was big the Blu B the Blues Brothers, so I saw that. I know it's not the best one in the world, but I watched that one and

Just winter throughout. And you know, films like this, films like the the beach movies with Frank with Frankie and that stuff like that, you know, it's kinda like One of those you know they're ridiculous.

But at the same time they're kinda like a pure good.

to where you turn it on when you want something positive to watch that it in no way, shape, or form you can feel bad after you watched it.

So you you turn it on to, you know, g get a dumb laugh at something and you know what you feel? Not bad after it. So I I appreciate films like this for that reason, for you know Elvis, I know a non actor, I get it in a lot of these movies and he sings through all the situations and

His power, his level of power at this point in nineteen sixty sixty four, is still very strong amongst the American people and

You can sell'em here like you could sell Taylor Swift to two s fourteen year old girls at this point, you know. And

Just uh he's there. He he was it at this time. Like like Michael Jackson in the eighties, he was it in uh in um

It works.

for that reason'cause I'm almost mesmerized by you know him in this movie to say, you know what? I I really buy what he's selling but at the same time there there's that respect that he shows throughout the film.

to the people around him, to where he's not just playing the cocky prick all the time. He sh he plays the carrying prick at this a it during two thirds of this build.

So it's it's uh it's a happy medium to me. But uh that's uh how I feel about roused about, um

Initially I'm sure I have more to talk about, but I uh I done quite a bit. I I w I would watch it again and more stuff too.

Yeah, for sure.

Hm. Yeah, I I it I think it's for me it's like one of those situations where it's because it's like the first Elvis movie I saw.

Um where its placement goes will obviously start to s shift once I see more of his movies. So Going into this recording, since we had a little extra time, I was able to see one other one and I I kinda picked it it's on Prime and I kinda picked it

Uh specifically because I I look at kind of the ratings that they have on there and I think this one was a four point eight out of five.

Sometimes I try to cross reference those because what they're listed on Prime, you go somewhere else and it's like, oh, it's not that quite high. Um

But this one was called uh Girls, Girls, Girls. And I'm sure uh yeah, this was an interesting one. I mean to me this was like a straight up

Girls Love Elvis movie. Um he basically comes into town and he gets a job in like a in a night.

singing with the band and He's like a boat captain for like at the local harbor um on a sailboat and he's juggling relationships.

Beautiful women love him. Like it it has like every characteristic you would expect by casting Elvis in your movie.

Yeah, I thought it was pretty entertain I mean it was kinda like cheesy as far as like the story and placas. It's not I don't think there was like a whole lot to the story, just kind of like your typical love

Triangle or love twist involving like multiple women that want to uh claim Elvis as their own. But

I mean what can I say? He kind of excels in that role, like so far from what I've seen. Like he's made to play that kind of role, which is kinda like the obvious thing for him. Um but yeah, I'm definitely going to

Check out more. I have some actual recommends.

Yeah.

that are some of uh his his better uh reviewed movies. So uh I plan to get on it. Nice. And maybe we'll have like a follow up uh all Elvis Episode of Beef in the Future.

I'll be into it.

Yeah, you stumped me because like I there's there's always that handful because he did so many that I'm like What was girls, girls, girls?

Yeah. You know, so I I quickly like referenced the book real quick and it's been so long as you as we talked about on the recording that didn't make it, that was not in my list of favorites.

And also isn't

I thought from that recording like you recommended me one with girls on the title, but I knew it wasn't girls, girls, girls. So I was like, Well

Oh yeah.

Uh I was like I guess this is semi uh uh adjacent to the actual good one he recommended, so I'll give it a shot. And I we

Girls that.

We and we did get uh Love Me Tender. He did sing that in there.

I think Girl Crazy was the other one that we were going to be able to do.

Girl happy.

Girl happy, yeah. Girl happy. Yeah.

But yeah, so so my list of favorite Elvis movies is not

the good ones, like a real good Elvis movie. Um, like they're great films, but they're just not endlessly rewatchable like the kind of uh that that

breezy, wonderful escapist entertainment you were talking about, Gary, where you put these things on to just frickin' escape. You put on fun and Al Capoco to just escape, you know? Uh but like

King Creole is really good. Uh it's it's like one of those bittersweet movies. Um, Elvis who really wanted to be an actor, I think, according to that book.

Um he the whole goal of his music career was to get on screen in Hollywood because he was such a big movie fan and he was of course frustrated by the types of films that he got stuck in.

And he was also scared to be broke. So

He just did whatever Colonel Parker said. Because of course, Colonel Parker being the piece of shit he was, convinced Elvis that if he stopped doing what Colonel Parker said, he'd be broke in in seconds.

as he was embezzling money from Elvis constantly.

So uh the frustrated actor Elvis got to do some stuff like King Creole with um Walter Mathau and some other good people. And it's just a good movie. Uh it's a very serious film. It's one of his most serious ones.

Um another really good film is of course um Viva Las Vegas. That's just that's just good stuff. Um not a favorite of mine, but I I c if you watch one Elvis movie

Do that. And if you're not into it, then you can like move on with your life. If you get into it, then check out my list. Um another fun one is follow that dream. Follow that dream is Unlike a lot of other Elvis movies, I think he sings a little bit less than that one.

Uh, but he plays a kind of local yokel with his family who ha they fall on hard times, so they just live on the beach in Florida and they run afoul of some gangsters who are doing some illegal gambling.

around the area and it's just a really good movie. Uh very funny jokes in it, but also like kind of a tender, uh a love me tender kind of movie, if you will.

As for my list and my wife's list, um, we absolutely love Uh a little movie called

Uh Blue Hawaii. Blue Hawaii is awesome. Highly recommend that. Uh Angela Lansbury plays Elvis's mom and she almost steals the whole movie. Her character's super flighty and goofy. She's like

the anti Jessica Fletcher in that movie. It's really fun.

Um, Girl Happy is my all-time favorite. I could watch that every day of the week. Girl Happy is is just

As fake as fake can be, I think there's two or three scenes that are outside. Everything is a soundstage and the most beautiful candy colored bullshit. This cannot be real sets you've ever seen.

Uh absolutely adore it. And it's got Shelly Fabaris in it, who is uh one of Elvis's most frequent collaborators as a leading lady. Uh Shelly Faboris is wonderful.

Uh and and gorgeous. She's just so beautiful.

Um and then there's Um spinach.

which is not a good film at all. Spin out is bad, but

I always say that spin out is like watching every Elvis movie at once. It has every cliche. It has every goofy side character. All the why are we doing a song here?

Why is he responsible for these people's lives? Oh, he's the big hero. What? And you can't even you can't even like

Keep your head on straight. It's so insane. It's a crazy movie, but I highly recommend it. Um His worst movies though, like

the worst movies. Uh Double Trouble. It's a uh it's not a twin movie. It's not Kissin' Cousins. It's a diamond heist British movie where they're trying to kill a girl.

because she's accidentally smuggling diamonds. I think that's what it is.

they hide some diamonds in her luggage or something. She might also be Secret Royalty, I can't remember. That movie sucks. It's so it's I I do not recommend it. Um I never say that that It's just don't appeal to me.

Uh but the worst of the worst is harem scarum. Harem Scarum is set in some magical Middle Eastern land and all the racist stereotypes are there, but almost worse, and I say almost worse.

than his th than the racial stereotypes Elvis's costumer.

He should have murdered this person who dressed him for that movie. He's got on like MC hammer pants.

Oh boy.

in the movie and it is grueling. Like Elvis is always cool in these movies.

Even when he was a little chubby, even when he looked a little washed out from frickin' poppin' pills, he at least looked cool. But in Harum Scarum, man, you just wanna turn the movie off just for the costume.

How does it how does it compare to Ishkar Ishtar at the Ast House?

Oh my god, Ishtar.

The the I wish Elvis had done the songs that they do in Ishtar.

I bet y I bet you could do some AI shit right there. Take Ishtar, all the songs, and have the Elvis do them.

Yeah, something that's a work through now.

That that's a good waste of uh electricity and water right there.

So they came out, put the work in, okay, goddamn it, you know.

Chat GPT, stop fucking around.

But yeah, those those are the main ones there. Um

There's stuff that I need to rewatch because, you know, we get stuck in our loops. Girls, girls, girls is definitely in there. Um

I think Love Me Tender, I don't remember Love Me Tender at all. So I have some stuff I need to rewatch. Um there's I I really

I don't recommend um Jailhouse Rock as well. Jailhouse Rock is where he's King Dick. He's just such he's the king of dick and roll in that movie. I do not like him at all.

In that one.

Oh man. You mentioned the Colonel yeah, Colonel Tom Parker. Yeah, he was that guy I think uh the Bos Lerman film, um

And brilliantly played uh somehow more creepier in that movie as he was as Mr Rogers in the other film, uh Tom Hanks. You know.

It's it's I now I I got goosebumps just listening to him talk as Mr. Rogers in the fucking film.

'Cause it it was like a sl slow, small roopinol coming over your shoulder saying, Hello neighbor, you know. Just no, no Tom Hanks.

But no, he played the he played the villainous colonel pretty well in that movie and I I enjoyed the hell out of that.

You know, Elvis was an adult.

He wasn't he was an adult person. Yeah. But he just got swept up in this Vengali guy's life and

It's it's I already hated him. And then you watch that Baz Luhrman movie and you just want to get in a time machine and just take a machine gun to him like Inglorious Bastards.

Yeah. Is there a second Elvis Carnival film?'Cause for some reason I remember uh some some film where he's with some kids at a carnival.

Oh yes, that's one of my favorites. Thank you. It happened at the World's Fair.

'Cause that was Spanguli once and that's where I saw that. And I was just curious what that movie was. I didn't know what the hell it was'cause

That's got little Kurt Russell, is little Kurt Russell cameo.

He would show the long, long trailer with uh with Lucy and Desi. Well the whole crew's in that movie actually. And uh

So I was wondering what the hell that movie was'cause I remember Spring Louis showing that Elvis movie on there. I remember it's like kids on like on the uh

The motorcycle ride that was on it went like tilt the tilt the world kind of but it just was on a track, you know. Yeah. Mhm. That's all I remember is that, you know, but uh um

But yeah, my my my kinship with Elvis is it goes far back as my weird upbringing in music wise with my family because I got the oldie stuff from my mother and mom.

And I got like the California punk scene from my cousins and you know, it was like a real mixture of shit.

But I I will say that, you know, Elvis was up there, he was always the icon that was in your face and you know, of course people accuse him and rightfully so of

Um stealing rock and roll from from from the African Americans and they're not wrong about this, but you know, he wasn't alone in this. He had a very gospel rich background, so he his his uh His heart was in the right place.

Vielen Dank.

Um I just uh

Burn and Love is is a beefy uh karaoke classic. I I'll do that a karaoke in a second.

I I I just uh I like these kind of movies. It it's it's one of those things that sticks with me. And the more and more of them that I catch um

Or just a pure good. I mean we we did Can't stop the music a long time ago with the village people.

On paper, it's not a good movie. On the screen, it's not a great movie either. But you know what? There's nothing negative about it.

So you you leave with positivity.

You know, they're gonna succeed and they do in the end of the movie and you get you know, the late Great Valley Prime, she just passed away. Uh

Doing that milkshake song with the village people and you know what? I'm there for it. You know. Um

Yeah, Doug does quite a bit. But we yeah, we're more than down to do more albus films with you man or or whatever whatever else you wanna do, but you know, you wanna do more albus stuff, you just let us know and I'm sure Mike is uh down like a clown all day long, you know.

Yes, I am.

Thank you.

Um that's where we'll leave this. Um we'll be right back with uh motorcycles, leathers.

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Cry Baby from nineteen ninety Cheapablot Synopsis is this in nineteen fifties Baltimore, a bad boy with a heart of gold wins the love of a good girl whose boyfriend s sets out for revenge.

Uh this is written and directed by one of John Waters. Um

Yeah, the stars a bunch of people that I love. Uh Johnny Depp as Try Baby, uh aka Wade Walker.

You know for many many things. If not, turn on your TV, you might find them. Like play Roulette, you'll find them somewhere. Uh Amy Lokane, you probably find her in less places, but I remember this and the movie Airhead.

That's and that's about it really.

Legendary Susan Tyrrell. I I've seen her in many, many things in cult cinema and other places just as great as Ramona Rick.

Uh Polly Bergen again, another legend. Uh this is Brennan Williams. Uh speaking of legends, I think he's eighty years old now, still doing his thing. Iggy pop as Belvedere Rick.

Uh, Ricky Lake, who was so cute when she was sick. Not not so much now, but uh as Pepper Walker Crybaby sister.

Tracy Lords, uh Wanda Woodward, Tim McGuire as Mona Hatchet Face Melt Malarowski, Derny Burroughs as Milton Hackett.

Stephen Mailer is Baldwin. Kim Webb is Lenora.

And uh one of my one of my heroes of of uh John Waters cinema, Alan J. Wendell as Tojo, the the premier photographer. I love that guy and stuff. Troy Don, who you legend.

Mig Stoll, John Waters, Dreamland Original, Lover. Um goes on. Patty Hearst shows up in this. Willem DeH Willem Dafoe shows up in this. Um

I love this, I love this, I love this. I've seen it many, many times. Spoilers, people. Kick to you first, Richard. Uh thoughts on Crybaby Sir.

Well, you know, I Don't know how controversial it is, but you know, I'm not a fan of the early John Waters stuff.

I think it's important. I think it's wonderful. I just don't wanna watch any of it ever again. Uh that's just not for me. Basically, I'm a polyester up until he

May never make another movie. Let's hope he makes another movie. Hollywood just dicked him over and he said, I'm not putting up with it. So good for him for leaving.

But uh Cry Baby is my favorite John Waters movie. Um all I have a lot of like

rewatchables, you know, like Cecil Cecil Be Demented and Serial Mom and Dirty Shame and you know, those those are great movies. Uh but Crybaby I could watch

All the time. It's just it holds up and it's so fun and energetic. Uh it it flies by too. It this movie moves.

I don't know if any of other John Waters movies move as fast as this one does and it just keeps throwing crazy shit at you.

And

um, all of the bad boy characters, all the rebels in this movie, the rebels without a clue or or a cause are just so endearing.

Um, even with their big giant stars and stripes forever. Uh they're like the biggest frickin' uh a rebel flag I've seen outside of Florida,'cause we have a big giant one here in Tampa.

Bye-bye.

Uh but it's like ah whatever. They're rebelling against those damn squares. Let'em let'em have their rebel flag. They mean something different to these friggin' nerds. It's so fun. The soundtrack is just like oh

So toe tapping. Um the the over the top sensuality, the grotesque sexiness.

is so awesome. I can't even um I don't know what's more disgusting uh than uh Johnny Depp's fricking glycerin tears.

that they're th the girl licks off his face. Oh my God, those those fake tears look so nasty. Looks like a a a human uh a human waste product you should stay away from.

But uh yeah, this is glorious. I I I have uh a pal of mine who does not like John Waters and he he does not like this film, and I'm like Maybe we're not pals, I don't know.

Thank you.

Who are you?

But yeah, just absolutely uh cannot recommend this enough if by some chance you haven't seen this. Um this one um back to back with uh

with uh hairspray is is how I got into John Waters. They were looks like double barrels coming at me and just uh absolutely wonderful stuff.

Those were like the safe ones that you would watch because they were I'd say the most accessible because these were on these were on the video show for probably we're all about the same age and they're there and you know you can turn it on in your house and your parents won't say

Why the fuck is this man fucking this girl on a couch in an alley? You know,'cause that that doesn't happen in this movie. There's there's points of penetration that you think are gonna happen but they don't really happen in this movie.

Yeah.

You're not gonna get scandalized like your grandparents if you they they're

We want to watch pet.

with you and you're like, Oh, do we have to?

What's um oh god. I'm I'm thinking the wrong thing though. Oh no tea bagging in the bar. I remember that about that movie and P P week here in Baltimore, that's a no go.

It's uh

Whatever Pekersdad says of that movie, I don't hate that movie like people do, but I I I I tolerate it, you know. Oh gosh. Martha Plimpton, you're a queen. I'll say that all day long.

Um, Mike, what's your thoughts, sir?

I actually echo a lot of the stuff said on Crybaby. It was between this and hairspray, th these were the ones that were kinda on TV a lot when I was growing up and I had little context or reference on what they were

Uh about I mean, obviously the surface level stuff, just the singing, the song numbers, all the dancing, it was cool and entertaining.

Um but I had no idea that Crybaby was kind of a parody of like fifties rebel

movies'cause I just wasn't familiar with like James Dean when I was like eleven, twelve years old. I I didn't know that like this was kinda like ramping up tropes from those movies to such like a satirical level.

I also didn't know, which my dad informed me. Um so I'm I've I've been pretty much in California my whole life, but I was actually born in Maryland and John Waters is a Baltimore guy, his his origins.

So, um, my dad knew kind of of that and he would kind of talk about how yeah, John Waters like rep

Baltimore a lot. Even sometimes when it's in passing, like he's not doing the thing where you're constantly driving around showing landmarks, but it'll get thrown into the dialogue or like uh

some of like the the aftermath of like different events from the areas the movies uh take place in. Um, there'll be some aftermath of something that happened in Baltimore or they'll reference like Baltimore riots sometimes and

As a kid I had no idea what they were talking about. But I thought that was always a cool aspect. Uh you know, when When directors and writers kind of implement um something personal to them growing up, so that was a cool touch.

uh that there's a lot of Baltimore really stuff. And Maryland's kinda one of those states too, like w when you were talking like civil rights era stuff, they're kinda like I I think they were always considered a northern state, but they're right on kind of that border.'Cause I think Virginia's right under them. So like

Um you probably get just a lot of mix of different characters like in that in a border state like that. Um Killer cast, the music numbers are great, uh what the movie

uh is saying is is is pretty cool. Um I think it just has rewatchability because of his pace. I I totally agree. It's like uh on this rewatch, I I saw it a lot growing up, but it had been a while since watching it for the show and

You kinda ha are uh for me, I I had a memory of like several things that happened in the movie, but it's like they just kept getting ticked off like one after the other as the movies just flying by and uh

I thought William Dafoe as kind of like the uh warden at the jail was hilarious. Like just even having actors in like small little roles that kinda stand out, just the dialect he was speaking in was a riot to me.

Um I I love kind of the represent like kind of the overtop over the top look.

at the representation of like the the squares and the drapes and like it reminded me of like uh when I saw the outsiders for the first time and you have kind of like the rebels and

and the squares and that. So I I was kind of familiar with like those dynamics when I saw Crybaby, but it like I said, because this is like a musical comedy in a lot of ways, it's it's ramped up. When Crybaby's recounting the story of Uh why he has no parents like that.

So

Such a ridiculous like background. Like it's not just that his parents were like outlaws. It's like

this crazy over the top story. Um

Yeah, Amy Locane, I w w on our last when we attended our recording last time I forgot the one other thing I do remember her from in this era. She was uh the girlfriend character in school ties with uh Brandon Fraser.

Yes.

Um I I knew there was something else from those years that I seen her and I couldn't remember last time and I I didn't look it up when we were recording, but yes, school ties. Um

And yeah, she she was good as kind of like the you know, I wouldn't call her like a bad girl on this, but she has like that streak.

of of rebellion in her and I actually kinda like that there there's

character arcs in this, you know, like not all the characters end up in a different place than they were in the beginning. And then of course like the over the top funny finale with the game of chicken and the cars. Um

Really cool. Uh this movie's a winner to me. Uh I think it it makes a great pairing with hairspray. Um they feel like they take place in the same universe.

Um, just that style. And yeah, I I would say for people that aren't familiar with John Waters, like these are probably good entry points to check out first and

They get a lot weirder and odder from here. So uh if you're on board, you know, take the plunge and then see what else he has to offer. And uh yeah, uh I highly recommend this one.

Yeah, I I I think this forever ever since I saw when I was a yeah probably

Twelve years old when I got this on VHS, you know, probably somebody dubbed the tape or something. I watched it a bunch and um All you guys mentioned is is great that there's those little flourishes that you know

that you you would notice if you weren't a John Waters fan that show up in this movie. There's the point where they they're at Turkey Point, which I love. I love the idea of Turkey Point'cause it's like a point it's like a place where everybody can go.

We have D Dupree who's the one black guy probably in the whole place. There's probably more. But you know, they they accept him in nineteen sixty four at this with this place which is Ah, you know, that's to say, you know, in a place like this for first full of supposed rednecks'cause this is

what Alison's grandmother calls the Redneck Riviera. You know, and and

They accept them I don't know they accept most people, they accept Allison and you know,'cause try baby digs her obviously. And but there's the part where they're at the the the the the dancing and they're all making out like

S some of the most the wickedest tongue blade I ever seen in my life. And the kids are sitting Pepper's kids are sitting on the and on the side watching all this and they switch lollipops like they're making out with each other.

I don't notice these things when I was when I was younger, but you know, there's like the little the little perverse shit that he throws in his movies that you don't think you've seen that then you you think twice like, yeah, th th this is why they're supposed to live pops'cause they wanna be like these grown ups and

You know. Not kiss, but they're just like they're making out with each other, but they're brother and sister, but you know

weird inbred humor, I don't know, but I I I loved it that that that's in the movie. Um

I love that the female protagon protagonists are just as powerful as the men in this film because you know the crybaby girls are tough, you know, they they they could do anything the men could do, even Pepper who's pregnant in the film, again bless a thick Ricky Lake, a love her to death.

She showed up at the talk show and I watched a ton of it'cause it was on T V but it just it just didn't have the same feel as when she was when she was heavy. She was very a very cute, full figured woman, you know.

Um

Have you seen baby cakes with her?

I've heard of it. It's it's out there.

it. It's so awesome. It is one of the most baffling movies you've ever seen'cause um way back in the day when I first started listening to podcasts, I listened to We Hate Movies.

Yes, yes.

They talked about baby cake.

And I was like, I gotta see this. And it ended up being just as crazy as they described it. Like that movie is wild. It's so it's just the most wrong headed bunch of shit you can watch.

Yeah, for sure. I I s ye I it was there. I I heard the same reason you heard it because of the We Hate Movies episode I I binged like all of'em at some point in time.

Oh, yeah. Same.

No. Um I still listen today actually.

But yeah, the songs in the film though I I I was wondering why, you know, as I'm older now and I enjoy the space a lot more, why they sounded so familiar

is that all the original songs the'cause I he he picks a great soundtrack anyway. You can listen to Cry Baby Going back to Pink Flamingos. He has The Girl Can't Help It by Lil Richard in there and he picks a great soundtrack.

If you ever heard of John Waters Christmas compilations, those are amazing. It's just um But he has original songs in this film, you know, and all and they're all arranged and produced by Dave Alvin, who's the lead singer from the Blasters.

And I love the blasters from Streets of Fire.

And they have that great song from from Dust Till Dawn. So I just I fell into the blasters and now I listen to like the whole catalogue. Uh Dave Alvin, the owner of the hugest Adams Apple known to man, just sticks out, you know. But he

wrote wro I'm sure wrote these songs too and this is why they're so good because if you listen to Blasters they have the same kind of like rockabilly, you know, don't take no shit feel, but in a in a nineteen sixties sense.

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You know, uh King Cry Baby i introduces, you know, that he can sing and, you know, wi with her obviously. She she she comes on stage with him and does the thing and

uh hatch face playing the saxophone s sort of convincingly. I'm not sure if that happened for real life or not, but you know, it looked good, you know. And um

Yeah, I just I think about like I said, the pacing is probably the best of any John Watersman, like you mentioned, and it moves along. I remember

The USA network version of this, which I think they call the T B cut now, you can get it places like on the Blu ray and the D V D places now and I kept looking for a version with those little extra flourishes in there. Like there's it's just like little shit in there.

But like that's this film was filled with little shit like Patty Hurst is uh

One of my favorite things for the the f two minutes she's in the film. The mother and then in the courts, you know, I don't think there's any greater dialogue delivery ever is

Can we take Wanda the fuck home? It's just wonderful. Just adults who are so oblivious that don't know how curse words work.

And she said this so nonchalantly. It's just uh like yeah, this this is great all all together and

Baldwin, you know, who's sort of her boyfriend but not really her boyfriend. He just seems like he's being around to be like a brown nose to Mrs. Vernon Williams uh the whole time.

trying to get it at the same time. Yeah, as it's like a as like a status symbol. He wants Allison.

So you're kind of relieved when she like follows her cry baby because he he genuinely digs her and uh I just... I like films like this and I watch this probably as much as my sister watched Dirty Dancing and I was forced to watch Dirty Dancing as a kid a lot and and uh

This is about the dirty dancing. Uh

Oh wow. Yeah, by a mile, by a long mile.

Oh my god.

Oh my gosh.

There's a great quote from John Waters about regarding his music that he chose for movies. Uh it was some interview years ago where he was talking about how his movies are really expensive, but they still look so cheap.

because the music rights he had to pay for was the most expensive part of movie making because he's he blames it on when he was a kid.

He and his friends would steal records from record stores. They would wear big coats to record stores and shove records up in their coats.

Oh man.

you know, pay for like one thing but steal twenty things. And he's like and he's like, but I've been punished for that ever since when I have to pay royalties for songs and movies'cause it's so expensive.

It's amazing, you know, what what they caught they paid to have them in their films. Like a a great example is uh Ralph my favorite Ralph Backsheet film, American Pop.

I think when they that movie came out they paid like a million dollars total to use all the that great music is in the movie, but like it it sh it struggled to get a release later on because they lost the rights to that music.

Of course. Yeah, you don't get it for a long time

A shame because I I think it's

One of the most perfect pieces of animation that ever exists, you know, is American Pop. If you haven't watched it, um

There's more Ralph actually than than Fritz the Cat, although I love Fire and Ice uh quite a bit, but uh it's hard hard to pick a favorite, but American Pop is probably my favorite. Uh

I can hear ha that in my head, man. No no song, man. No coke, man. I can

The whole movie builds up to night moves. It's so insane.

It looks so good though. It looks so good.

Oh man. Yep. I uh we're a bac we're a bakshe household here.

God bless the matte painting, that's all I'll say about that movie, you know.

But this is great though. I I I'll I'm I'm biased'cause I've seen it so many times of course, but you know as far as improving on the world that they they built in films like this that came out

Thirty years ago. Um it's it's It's a perfect tribute to it and I think John Waters is his testament to that'cause he loves he loves this kind of stuff and he made his version of this and you mentioned a dirty shame and I think it's one that's underseen in my opinion'cause

There's not many films that have the the dirty hokey pokey in it and that's uh that belongs to Tracy Alman now. It belongs to her and uh

I buy a hook lines, hook lines thinker, uh a woman who gets a concussion and all she wants to do is have weird sex. And I'm fine with that.

Yeah. God, that there's that watching that for the first time with my mother in law.

We we just we just rented like, hey John Waters, this should be fun. We had no idea that it was rated NC seventeen for dialogue.

For dialogue alone, that movie was N C seventeen. And we were

Uh I would just every few minutes I'd look at my mother-in-law as this crazy shit's going down in that movie and she's laughing. She can't even breathe she was laughing so hard.

She loved that movie so much. It was a testament to John just just dunking somebody into the John Waters world.

Wonderful place to be.

First man with with with fucking impantilism and it's come on though, you know.

That scene scares me.

That's that's the guy from the movie, the the photographer guy plays that guy in that movie. Yeah.

No. That's the only moment in that movie where I'm going.

I don't like this.

Yes.

But Knoxville Knoxville fits right in that movie. So there's that, you know.

It's exactly his acting skill level. It's exactly his level of an acting is that.

considerate as an actor myself because everything I watch with him in it e even that not so good Dukes Hazard movie I I have a good time with because he's in it, you know.

Never saw that.

It's uh Jay Chan I lo I love Broken Wizard so it's uh directed by Jay Chandra Sage Garner, so I'm I'm all I'm all for it to watch it at least one more time, probably.

Nice.

Thank you.

It's not super troopers, but I'll watch it again. Yeah.

But uh this is great and um

I think we'll leave it at that. You guys should watch Crybaby if we even convince you to to do so. And uh And roused about two, that's on Prime. Good go check it out, guys. Um we will be right back to close out the show.

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Uh, first of all I I wanna thank Richard for for coming on the show. We got a huge milestone coming up and that is the three hundredth episode of Pellos to the Doom show and I don't know if you could disclose about what's coming or w what you guys are doing, but y this it's your show obviously, so

It's gonna be cuckoo is what it's gonna be.

Uh, we are gonna try to get all the co hosts in one recording for the first time and hopefully it won't be complete chaos'cause it's always

uh just ever the episodes have like pretty much been uh me and one other person. Very few episodes had three. So this is gonna be uh me with

Brad, Jeffrey, Simon, Mark, and Lieta is gonna make a cameo as well. So it's gonna be uh

gonna be a real full Zoom call. So it should be fun. Uh but yeah, we're just gonna do some like reintroducing guests, reintroducing the the co hosts, like who

who we are and all that stuff and do a little history of the show. Uh definitely not gonna try to talk about any movies other than whatever our um our listeners request. We got some some feedback we're gonna go through. So I'm excited. But yeah, three hundred episodes

It seems like after fifteen years we should have more than that, but

Back in the day, Brad and I were doing like four episodes a year at the beginning before we were really committed to it. I mean, these were like three hour episodes.

Well we can do.

an entire you know, like Lucio Fulci's entire catalog and and by the time three hours are done we never want to see each other again. You know, we're so sick of talking. Uh but then, you know, we picked up steam and we've been going. I'm I'm

just so happy that it it gives me opportunities to come hang out with people like you, man. I I love that you were on the show and I love that I finally got my shit together and got on.

Yeah.

Well yeah, yeah.

Yeah.

Gary B for uh half hour, yes indeed. We we're gonna play two hours though for sure.

It's kind like Charlie Rose, but not quite. You know, it's uh

Um but yeah, you're welcome to come back whenever wh whenever you want to. We usually do the th these on Thursdays and Thanks. I'll keep you in the loop and uh I'll I'll keep you uh Uh amongst my my my my crew regulars, you know,'cause I I it's always good to have uh

somebody else who who who knows what they're doing in my back pocket to say, you know what? De these guys can run the show up by like croak and die before production so they all there's a so the show must go on, people, you know.

Um that's exciting shit through three hundred episodes. I I think um I don't know where at with the with with my sh with this show because I truth be told, um when I had the show on talk shoe, uh we put like forty nine episodes up on there.

And that got lost'cause talk shoe shut down and my computer died with those episodes on there. So like forty nine episodes are or lost in the ether somewhere unless it has them downloaded somewhere, which sometimes they do, but you know.

Yeah, I gotta give up hope on that one. So so I think

Somewhere near there maybe. I'd I'd do a a head count here on how many episodes are actually up. But um excited breeze, sir. I really I really am.

Thank you.

I think uh

Mr. Napa will be uh watching over all of you just like maybe like maybe like puking ghost fumes on your guys' heads like he's a proper Eli Roth the head maybe. Just uh

So you're not going to be able to do that.

You go i if you go through the archives of the show, we got a lot of it on YouTube. There a lot of it is on the doommovie thon dot com, but a lot of it's on YouTube. Find the NAFA episodes.

Because he true to life, uh just like he was hanging out with him, he would not let you finish a sentence without doing a a pun, a sexy pun.

It was always so anarchic on the show. I loved I loved those episodes so much. I'm so glad that we have those.

to to so people can hear him from beyond the grave. Cause man, that that dude was one of a kind. And his he's so funny on those episodes. I love it.

Nice, nice brother. Mike, would you come up, sir?

Uh what do I got coming up? Well, the latest fresh cuts we got was on Obsession, which just released and

This week we have a couple of choices. The uh the movie that called Passengers is probably the biggest release, but there's

Also another one called Sackarine and there's also another one called Corporate Retreat. So it's one of those weeks with a few choices. Um we usually go with the biggest one just because Um for the specific show, it just kind of makes sense to do that and then we cover the

smaller releases on the other show, the main show, No More Room in Hell. And the latest one on that, that's currently out as episode seventy four. We took a look at uh

What was it again? Oh Wolf Guy, the Sonny Cheebo movie and uh Frankenhooker because

Oh what a pair.

This this rotation was my picks and I I was kinda looking at like the fact that all these universal monster movies

keep getting remade and re envisioned constantly. So I was like let's take a look at a couple more of the uh bizarre uh remakes of them. So that was a fun episode. We had uh Gary, it was you, right?

That's me, yes indeed.

Yeah, it's been out for a couple weeks. I think we are scheduled to record our next one this Sunday and it's Ven it was Venom's Picks and I I can't remember I know one of'em is Vampire Hunter D, the second one, and

Uh is it Bloodlust that the subtitle is? I think maybe.

Okay, and then I j I can't remember what the other one is that he paired with it, but that'll be recording this Sunday, so probably the next

That'll be out. And Gary, I guess, uh eventually we'll have another episode of uh Welcome to Springwood, is it called?

You see your friend Tell and burning for Springwood.

We're almost done with season one of Freddy's Nightmares, so I think if we get Suzanne to stop watching the Cubbies one day we'll uh we'll get together. We'll we'll boot that back up again and keep on going until we finish it and maybe we're gonna something else. We'll see what happens. But uh

This is keeping pretty occupied over here, th this show here and hopefully Torches pops up again, but you will hear

Well I have coming up next. Oh stop it, cat. Ah i not stop a cat, but you know if she needs to stop it unless. And she fucking Let's just go over there.

You guys hearing me? I'm sorry.

Uh Uh they're recording this recording this Tuesday, actually.

Uh we're doing another installment of this month, The Rebel Without a Pause. Where there are two very different Willem Dafoe roles. Uh one where he plays the Rebel and where he's pursuing the Rebel. Uh we're doing Catherine Bigelow's feature debut, The Loveless

And we're doing the first David Lynch appearance ever on the show, uh Wild at Heart, uh starring Nicholas Cage.

Willem Dafoe, Harry Dean Stetten, um

Laura Dern uh Lulu's mama uh yes is in that movie as well. I'm gonna call her Lulu's mama right now'cause I don't care. She she's her mother in real life and the mother in the movie.

Uh the great Diane Ladd. I just just hammered it up in that fucking movie. I love it so much.

And uh Nikade singing Elvis.'Cause it and it sounds not bad. So there's that, you know.

Um yeah, that's coming up next, but you're gonna get sick of hearing my fucking voice. And then in that same week, we're recording another one. Fancy that.

With uh whoever shows up, but um

That last one's got the Torches guys on there, so Lee will be on there, Cameron be on there, X will be on there joining the Torches guys and supposedly Suzanne if she shows up. You know, if Suzanne shows up she's in

uh that Tuesday episode. So the Thursday after be a split squad probably of course'cause you know we do those these kind of things on this show. Uh Thrashin.

And Airborne is our last installment of the Rebel Blood of the Paws month and those are films I watched on cable, especially Airborne, and I'm looking forward to talking about Airborne uh quite a bit actually,'cause I watched it so many goddamn times and

I don't see somebody as a badass inland skating myself, but you know, it it is what it is. You know. Uh yes, all that's coming up.

Next must be fun too. We'll talk about that when we get to that. Uh very special guest on that show too. But um Uh stop rambling right now and uh with the minutes uh of the fucking show and say thank you all for listening to this show.

And uh this has been the Cinema Beef Podcast for if you've got beef, we've got the grinder. See you next time.