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Let us know what's up Picture this: It's ugly sweater day at school, and a well-meaning comment goes hilariously awry, serving as a gentle reminder of how we need to be thoughtful with our words. As we transition into the festive season, our latest episode tackles the unique challenges faced by parents and teachers of children with special needs, offering practical advice to create inclusive and personalized holiday celebrations. We discuss strategies for accommodating diverse preferences, l...
Picture this: It's ugly sweater day at school, and a well-meaning comment goes hilariously awry, serving as a gentle reminder of how we need to be thoughtful with our words. As we transition into the festive season, our latest episode tackles the unique challenges faced by parents and teachers of children with special needs, offering practical advice to create inclusive and personalized holiday celebrations. We discuss strategies for accommodating diverse preferences, like encouraging students to bring their favorite snacks, and reassure parents that it's perfectly okay if their child prefers skipping Santa for something more enjoyable.
A touching moment in a movie sparks memories of a child named Xander, leading to a heartfelt discussion on the bittersweet realization that some experiences may not fit the conventional mold. We explore the emotional journey of parenting children with special needs, emphasizing the importance of open conversations and finding comfort in the love and support of family. This episode invites listeners to reflect on how holiday traditions may evolve and how the genuine joy and excitement of children like Xander, especially for school and the support of dedicated teachers, bring light into challenging times.
Forget material gifts; it's the experiences that count! We wrap up this episode by sharing personal stories about the significance of creating memorable experiences that resonate with each child. With anecdotes like Xander's thrill at Wild Adventures, we explore how meaningful moments can outshine traditional gifts, urging parents and educators to focus on what truly brings joy to children. As we muse over the unpredictability of life, we draw parallels to Tom Brady's football strategy and encourage listeners to embrace what makes their children happy, ultimately fostering lasting memories that go beyond the fleeting allure of material possessions.
Join us as we dive into the world of special education with two educators who have walked the same path as many of you. In addition to teaching in self-contained and collaborative settings, our hosts bring a unique perspective to the challenges and triumphs of raising a special needs child. From classroom strategies to heartfelt family moments, they offer practical advice, empathy, and a community of support. Discover how their personal experiences can shed light on your journey and gain valuable insights into navigating the complexities of special education both in and out of the classroom. Welcome to the tribe!
Speaker 1: welcome to the next
episode.
Does that make sense?
The next episode of the life in
the IEP tribe podcast?
sure we'll go with that.
I think we're like on number
six now, the newest, the
freshest.
No, we'll just say that we're
now starting episode six of the
Life in the IEP Tribe podcast.
Nope, I'm not going to do it.
Okay, so you guys can't see
this, but I have this board that
I use and it's got all this
really cool like built-in stuff
and I really want to push the
buttons, but I don't know that
it's necessarily the best use of
our time and equipment.
So how are you doing today?
Speaker 2: Laura, I'm doing all
right.
How are you doing?
Speaker 1: You know I'm pretty
good.
So we're recording this midweek
and you know, oddly enough,
it's been a long time since I
have felt this awake at almost
530 in the evening, in the
middle of the week.
Usually we hit Wednesday and
I'm already Friday, tired Right
Like I'm whooped, but no feeling
pretty good.
It's been a good week with our
kids.
Our kids have been awesome.
Of course, we can't talk about
them as far as who they are and
whatnot, but I will tell you
this story though.
So we were hanging out in my
classroom and in our school that
we work at, they do these theme
days right, right For the
holidays, and so some of these
kids that we've had we've had
them for multiple years, this
isn't their first time with us
and you know it's not.
They're not new to the group or
anything like that, so they're
pretty familiar with all the
paras and us.
And so we had the ugly sweater
day and one of our paras who I
mean she's been in this game a
long time and knows this
particular student has known him
for many years Well, I mean as
many as he can be, because he's
in elementary school.
But she looks at the student
and says, oh, student's name, I
love your ugly sweater.
A boy, his smile turned upside
down and he's like, ah.
And as soon as the parrot said,
I thought to myself this
probably wasn't the best use of
words.
I mean, as the parrot said, I
thought to myself this probably
wasn't the best use of words.
And she had to rush over and
console him because he was
convinced that this teacher of
his called him ugly.
Speaker 2: I heard that his lip
poked out pretty far and started
yeah, if he would have tried to
walk.
Speaker 1: He would have tripped
on it and, but he got over it
pretty quick and and she felt
bad and we all laughed.
I mean it was really.
I mean we didn't laugh at a
crying kid, Probably so.
Anyway, nobody got laughed at,
Nobody got poked fun at, but it
was a funny situation.
Yes, and so as we move into
this holiday season, you know we
were chit chatting and there's
some things that we think would
be beneficial from the parent
side of the IEP and as far as
approaching holidays with our
children that have special needs
, and there's a lot that comes
along with that.
So my question for you, Laura,
to get this thing kicked off, is
what are some great ideas for
the holidays?
Speaker 2: Okay, no pressure.
I know you talked about from
the parent side, but I think
there is a couple of things like
from teacher's side as well and
as we know that our students
with disabilities, they have
different likes and dislikes
than the norm and for teachers
we found it difficult to figure,
okay.
So what do we do for some of
these celebrations?
You know what do we have?
So we take the Grinch's, what
is it called hubulation, and
they have the roast beast and
they have these cute Grinch
flavored thing, you know, not
flavored.
Speaker 1: Ew.
Speaker 2: That sounds horrible.
Speaker 1: I feel like I just
licked an ashtray?
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, anyway.
So Grinch themed foods?
Yes, yeah, anyway.
So Grinch themed foods.
And you start like putting
green pudding in front of our
children and that's not going to
go over very well.
Or you try to give them grapes
and bananas and strawberries,
although it might look like
Grinch head with the Santa hat.
They're not going to get it and
be like no.
So sometimes having parties is
difficult this time of year for
the teachers, and I know one
thing that we've done in the
past is, hey, just have your
child bring in their favorite
sweet or salty treat, because
not all of them like sweets
either, and you can't just have
a pizza party.
They don't all like pizza, and
so or they don't like the brand
of pizza that we got.
Speaker 1: Oh, that's a thing,
that is a thing.
Speaker 2: Or chicken nuggets.
We can't just go and get you
know a box of chicken nuggets
and ask the kitchen to cook them
for us, so that can bring some
struggles.
So what we've as teachers, what
we've found works is asking
parents for donations to do that
.
Or at the end of the school
year, last year we had a
breakfast, because all our kids
like breakfast foods, it seems
like, especially if they're
carbs, and so having a breakfast
party, and so you know, having
a breakfast party, but that.
So with that, I also want to
stress to parents don't worry
about the norms when it comes to
buying for your child or doing
the things that your friends are
doing with their kids.
And you know your kid might not
want to go see Santa, and
that's okay.
That's okay Because really and
I know, jared, you and I've had
this conversation about Xander.
You know well, we wish he could
do this or we wish he would
enjoy that, but he really
doesn't care.
He doesn't feel like he's
missing out on anything.
But he really doesn't care.
He doesn't feel like he's
missing out on anything when we
might feel like he's missing out
, he's living his best life and
none the wiser of or maybe the
wiser not caring.
So I think that would be my
first suggestion is just don't
worry about what everybody else
is doing, or try keeping up with
what everybody else wants to do
.
If your kid has no interest in
having an elf visit them every
year, it might be terrifying for
some kids.
There's this thing in my house
that keeps moving around every
day and that's okay, I think.
Just feel out what your kids
want to do and make new
traditions if you need to.
Speaker 1: So, teachers of
special education classes, feel
free just to reiterate, feel
free to focus in on the things
that your kids do enjoy, versus
trying to get them to enjoy
things that they may not, just
because of their classes, do it.
And then, as for parents, you
know it's kind of tough.
So just the other night we were
, um, watching I guess we're a
lot of you know we were watching
a movie the other night and it
was, uh, what was it?
Called?
Wonka, that's what it was, and
if you haven't seen it, it's,
it's pretty.
I enjoyed it, you enjoy it.
And uh, it's a story about
willie wonka before he has his
chocolate factory, and it was
pretty cool.
I guess the movie came out
maybe a year or so ago.
But while we're watching this
movie, I I found myself like the
young man that was playing
willie wonka.
I'm looking at him and I'm
thinking to myself well, he
looks familiar.
I'm just watching and watching
and then it hit me as we're
watching this movie, I got to
thinking, oh, oh, my goodness,
he looks like Xander, like the
hair and the face and everything
.
I mean he just looks like
Xander.
And then I so I guess we're
going to have some real
conversation for a second here.
So then my mind starts to kind
of kind of wander and I started
thinking about Xander and and
how you know, we're watching
this movie and he's.
He's never going to be a part
of a musical production, he's
not going to be any type of
entertainer from a traditional
standpoint right.
There's a lot of the norms that
we see around us that he's not
going to get to participate in.
And then for a moment it's kind
of heartbreaking because you
think about the things that you
enjoy as a human being, you
think about the things that you
enjoyed as a kid, and to have
the thought cross your mind that
my child, that I would do
anything for, is never going to
experience some of these things.
And this isn't me saying that if
your kid has special needs or
whatever, that they're doomed to
a life of misery.
That's not what I'm saying.
What I'm saying, though, is
that, if we look at our child's
situation realistically, based
on evidence, based on normal
progression of child growth,
some of our students, some of
our children, are not ever going
to be average.
They're not going to be what is
considered normal, and one of
the things I'm super thankful
for is that we have this
relationship where we can talk
about these things and we can,
you know, share with each other,
and knowing full well that,
again, xander's not a burden.
We love him.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: And that we're not
saying we're giving up on
anything that he may possibly
accomplish in the future.
But again, if we're going to
tie it to evidence, there's a
lot of things that he's not
going to experience and it's
really great to be able to have
those conversations and to hear
each other and then be reminded,
like you said, I don't know
that there's a part of his life
that he dislikes.
I mean, think about all the
things that we go through in
life and you know we grunt and
groan every morning because we
got to get out of bed and go to
work, right, right, I mean,
that's just, that's normal life.
I don't care what you do.
You can love what you do and
still not feel like getting out
of the bed and going.
He doesn't have that.
Speaker 2: No, he is up.
And sometimes, before his alarm
goes off, he is up and ready to
go.
And he's sitting out here 20,
30 minutes before the bus gets
here and smiling and giggling
and all sorts of things.
He's ready to go.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: And so at 19,.
As a high school, a 19-year-old
high school student should not
be this excited to go to school.
Speaker 1: No, but he does, he
loves it and we have been
fortunate that Xander's had
great teachers over the course
of his life.
He's grown up in the same
county and been in the same
school system since he started.
But it's hard, and so then we
start to think about, we start
to kind of feel sorry for
ourselves and that's what it is
at the end of the day.
But that's okay.
Find somebody you can talk to
about.
That right.
There needs to be safe spaces
and if you don't have a safe
person, you can email us If you
know us, you can call us If we
work together.
We can have the conversation
face-to-face, but know that it's
okay to experience those
feelings and share them with
somebody.
It doesn't make you a bad
parent.
And so it reminds me.
I'm going to share a story real
quick and then I'll stop
hogging all the airspace.
I talk a lot, I really do.
I mean sometimes anyway.
So let's see, I don't remember
exactly how many years ago it
was, but Zander was little.
He couldn't have been, I mean,
maybe preschool age, maybe a
little bit older.
But Zander, when he was little,
I mean his motor went 100 miles
an hour nonstop from the time
he opened his eyes in the
morning till the time he closed
them when he fell asleep.
He just went, went, went and
stopped.
There was no speeding stopped,
there was no speeding up, there
was no slowing down.
And my parents do this really
cool thing to where they try to
set up experiences for our
family around the holidays.
Instead of people just getting
a bunch of gifts for each other,
they'll try to find something
that we can all do together.
Bunch of gifts for each other,
they'll try to find something
that we can all do together,
whether it's go, stay at a cabin
or get an Airbnb somewhere
that'll hold the family and
really spend time together and
have a great time.
Well, this one particular year,
my parents rented a cabin at a
state park that's roughly about
an hour and a half away from us
two hours, sounds right, yeah,
somewhere in that vicinity.
And this particular Christmas it
was myself and Brandon and then
Xander.
So it's me, xander and his
older brother, brandon, and we
went to go meet the family out
at this cabin in the state park.
We went to go meet the family
out at this cabin in the state
park and you know we get out
there and like my brother's out
there with his family and his
kids and my sister's out there
with her kid, and people were
staying the night.
So everybody's going to stay
for a few days, but it wasn't
going gonna work for us, like
there's no way that brandon and
xander and I and that's with my
family, who has been nothing but
supportive this time I mean, my
goodness, we need to put some
pictures out xander hanging out
with his grandfather, who is his
best friend, like, without a
doubt.
Speaker 2: So so it's not even a
gram that is gone here, there
and everywhere with the kid.
Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2: That makes sure that
he's taken care of.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean,
my family has been such a great
support system.
Yes, but there's no way we're
staying there more than the
course of that day, Because
while some kids can just go play
on the playground and their
parents sit and watch or walks
can be taken down by the river.
You know, I have a son that is
quick, as as quick as can be,
and you know you turn your head
and he's gone.
Speaker 2: That's no fear.
Speaker 1: Right, he's taken off
and and so it got to where it's
like I was spending more time
corralling him than spending
time with my family.
And so I get back in the car
and I'm making that drive home
and can't help but think to
myself you know, it's not that I
, it's not a matter again of
hating the situation, hating
what's going on, but the idea
that at that time that my son
can't just go play on the
playground with those other kids
, and he has two cousins.
Speaker 2: That are born the
same year that the two cousins
played together and grew up
together and Xander grew up up
he's the same age and that, yeah
, that there wasn't that
connection there that was
between the other two is hard
and and so and we talk about
that, that kind of stuff pretty
often.
Speaker 1: Um, so if, by some
chance, you're a parent of a
child and you find yourself in
these situations, number one,
know that it normal.
It's normal to have feelings
like that.
You love your kid, you want
them to experience all the
things that you can think of
that you enjoyed experiencing.
You want them to be able to
have that same opportunity.
So it's heartbreaking when
there is sometimes reality
presented that it's not going to
happen, when there is sometimes
reality presented that it's not
going to happen.
Speaker 2: So it's okay to feel
these feelings, but it's so
important to talk to people
about it, find somebody safe to
talk with and know that it's
okay to have these desires for
your kid and sometimes these
experiences that they had no
interest in or could not
participate in when they were
young, where you would see the
typical child participating in
them.
Sometimes, like a lot of other
milestones that they have, it
may just be delayed.
Sanders still likes to go see
Santa Claus, where when he was
little he didn't have a whole
lot to do with him, but he still
likes him now.
In fact, the high school has
Santa come see his class, and so
sometimes that, although you
might not experience these
things as a little when they're
little, they might like them
when they get a little bit older
.
So you might just have to delay
these experiences and find the
things that they do like.
Xander loves to travel and
Xander loves to look at
Christmas lights and say you
know, sometimes we'll just drive
around and let's look at the
lights or the trolley tours of
the lights.
That's one of the things that
we like to do and that the whole
family can do, but that he
enjoys too.
It may not be something you or
I grow up doing, but now we've
started this new tradition
because it's something that he
enjoys, that everyone can enjoy
something that he enjoys, that
everyone can enjoy.
Speaker 1: Well, and something
that I want to add too is that
so this particular state park
and cabin that we went to,
however many years ago, I'm
going to go visit again this
Christmas season.
So it's going to be almost gosh
, I don't know.
Probably 14, 15 years, almost
to the day, right and trust and
believe that boy's going to be
on that playground.
Speaker 2: Well, we've gone one
other time.
Since your first experience,
this will be the second time
that we've gone Yep, that's
right and the second time he
went and he had a good time.
We spent the night.
He slept in the room in the
bunk beds with his best friend,
paul.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So we were able to
spend the night.
Speaker 1: And just to tie to
what you're saying, though, is
that all those things that at
that point, I was like, oh, he's
not going to experience this,
he's not going to enjoy this?
Well, he's enjoying the crap
out of it now?
Right, and that's okay, and
that's a good thing, right?
There are things that we would
kind of challenge our fellow
parents in this journey is
really take some time to kind of
figure out what is it that your
kid jives with, and be cool
with that, because I don't know
how much money we've spent on
toys and Trinkets yeah this and
that You're like okay, well, the
kids should like this.
Just for him to smile and say
thank you and put it down.
Speaker 2: Right, maybe that
evening or the next day pick it
up and look at it.
But there's no sense in buying
things just to buy things.
And I know for Xander and this
may not be for everybody, but
for Xander Xander doesn't go and
count how many presents that
his brothers get, nope, and how
many presents he gets, because I
know keeping things even is
kind of a big thing for a lot of
families.
And there's been times that
Xander has had the same amount
of presents as his siblings.
And then there's also been
times where, you know, we've
spent a little bit more money on
Xander because instead of
buying him the toys and the
items, we took them somewhere
and so it was like a family gift
, but it was really his gift.
Like last year we went to Wild
Adventures because the kid loves
some roller coasters and he
loves some Christmas.
So if we could have, he could
see all the Christmas trees.
You ask him Santa, what do you
want?
What do you want for Christmas?
A Christmas tree?
You have a Christmas tree, a
star?
You have a Christmas tree, a
star, you have a star.
A present, a present, a red
present.
So he can't even, you know.
Speaker 1: He's just like
whatever.
Speaker 2: He just likes the
holiday, he loves watching the
movies, he loves the experience
of it and really doesn't, you
know, isn't upset with what he
does or does not end up with
under that tree and even with
that whole, the whole idea of
experiences, I think it's really
cool that you mentioned the
lights.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's
something that doesn't cost you
know anything more than gas,
like you and the kid or your
family, you, you know, whatever,
whatever that family dynamic is
get in the vehicle and go look
at some lights, and that you
know that doesn't doesn't cost a
thing in it, but it's an
experience.
It's.
So what we have found is
experiences make all the
differences in the world, and
and so, yeah, so we're like,
we're like super jazzed to see
what it is that, how he responds
to, what he gets this time
around, and we would love to
hear any I don't know
suggestions or ideas, or you
know, what does your kid love to
do?
Maybe you're a teacher?
What student that you might
have with special needs?
or an IEP, or you know whatever
what do you find that they
really jive with and they really
connect with and really enjoy?
Because, at the end of the day,
I mean stuff, just stuff, fades
away anyhow, right?
I mean I don't know that I have
anything from Christmas when I
was a kid, right, I don't know
that there's anything that was
so magnificent.
I held on to it, right, for my
entire life.
I'm sure I have Christmas
ornaments Now you do because you
will keep things and store, not
like a hoarder, but you hang on
to stuff.
I tried that before and I
forget where I put things.
I remember one time it was a
fun christmas story.
So these kids always do these,
the schools do these like santa
shop where the kids can go buy
stuff for their families, their
siblings and their parents and
all that.
So we were living in
pennsylvania at the time and my
parents had given me money and
and I went into this whole Santa
shop and went shopping for
whatever.
And I remember specifically
buying my brother, who's six
years younger than me, a couple
of Hot Wheels cars and so he had
.
He came into a room and I was
trying to hide them until
Christmas and so I he ended up
finding them.
I don't know how I found, if he
saw me put them, where I put
them or if he, I don't know but
he ended up finding the Hot
Wheels cars and I got so mad at
him I'm like, all right, cool,
you're not getting them.
Of course I didn't know, but he
ended up finding the Hot Wheels
cars and I got so mad at him
I'm like, all right, cool,
you're not getting them.
Of course I didn't mean it,
because that's just mean.
But I swear to you, I have no
idea where I put those cars.
Still to this day, I don't know
where they are.
I don't know where they went.
He probably found them.
Well, you know, know.
Now you say that he probably
did because he's a sneaky little
cuss.
Speaker 2: Yes, he probably
found him and went and played
with him and hid himself yeah,
that makes sense, but I did I.
Speaker 1: I felt pretty crappy
about that, but I don't really
remember why I told that story.
Oh, we're talking about stuff
and having things from.
Speaker 2: But yeah, presents
and I mean presents are good and
present kids love to open
presents.
We're not saying don't get, get
your child presents, we're not
saying that at all.
But you know, give them those
memories and those experiences
too.
If you have a child like ours
that he just wants to go and do
and I know we have a friend and
coworker too that had said her
son loves experiences and loves
to be outside so a lot of their
gifts are outside items.
Even it doesn't get as frigid
here as it does in other places
and so they can use those
outside toys a lot longer there.
But even if it's cold, I know
they'll take them outside to
play.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, yeah,
where we live, it's like it's
winter for, like I don't know, a
week and a half or something
like that, but I'm not
complaining.
So, with that said, do you have
anything else you want to add?
Laura, let's do a recap.
If you're a SPED teacher, know
your students Like take the time
to see what they like, and if
they don't care, then don't put
the time in Like it's okay to
find the things they like and
invest in that your time and
whatever you want to invest in
that, so that you can help them
have an experience.
Speaker 2: Speaking.
Yeah, I guess I do have
something to add Speaking of
that, like we did last year.
Traditionally, you know,
teachers get little.
You know goodie bags and some
different.
You know candies and toys and
over the years we found out that
our students really don't care
about those things.
So last year we got a class
present, we pulled our money and
got them a trampoline for the
class and instead of sending
home goodie bags, we'll probably
either sit at the bottom of
their backpack or make their way
into a donation box or bottom
of a toy box.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you,
xander comes home with stuff
every Halloween and Christmas
and like if we didn't eat it,
right, it would be there the
next Halloween or Christmas.
He does not care.
But luckily for him he's got a
dad who will eat just about
anything.
So I help him with the candy
when I can.
So, okay, so one, find out what
the kid's like.
Invest in that.
Watch the smiles.
Number two if you are a parent,
it is okay to one be kind of
bummed if you realize that
there's some things that your
kid is not going to be able to
experience right now.
But know that if they're not
interested in it now, they can't
be disappointed, right, they're
not going to sit there and be
upset about something that they
don't care about.
So what do they care about?
And so we talked about Xander,
xander's experience.
X xander, you can drive him
around the block and he's all
about it right, especially if
you take him in a convertible
with paul yeah, yeah, yeah,
we're gonna.
We might have to show that
picture because that kid was all
about that ride, going out
getting some some soda pop with
his, with his paul, but really
do take the time to to enjoy
whatever is there.
So, football story, and then
I'm probably going to be done,
there's an application to it, I
promise.
So I I've been a football fan
for as long as I can remember.
I was raised a dolphin fan.
Um, as I can remember, I was
raised a Dolphin fan.
Yes, it hurts, it's hard, but I
am, and so I've been fortunate
enough to follow the Dolphins
during the Tom Brady era in New
England.
And that guy, golly, I'm pretty
well convinced that he sold his
soul to the devil, because
nobody wins games like that.
I mean it's ridiculous, but
anyway.
So Tom Brady retires, comes
back, plays again, wins a Super
Bowl and anyway, anyway, doesn't
matter, he wins a bunch of
Super Bowls.
Can't stand the guy.
That's not true.
I don't even know him, but I'm
going to go on with my story.
Speaker 2: You wish he was a
dolphin.
Speaker 1: Every game I watched.
I'd say I hate this guy.
I wish he was a dolphin.
But there was this interview
and he was talking about how he
was successful as a quarterback
and his response was really cool
.
He said I took whatever the
defense gave me and then if the
big play was available, I'd take
that.
But I always took what they
gave me.
I never tried to force anything
that wouldn't work.
I never tried to force a play
just because I wanted that play
to happen.
I looked at what was in front
of me and I took what they gave
me.
So again, this is coming from a
quarterback that's played in 10
Super Bowls 10, 9, and 1-7,
which is ridiculous.
Nobody does that.
But that same concept can bring
an awful lot of joy to our
classrooms, to our families, and
that is look at what you have
right in front of you and take
whatever is given.
If little Jimmy just wants Hot
Wheels, then get little Jimmy
Hot Wheels.
If little Jimmy don't care
about Hot Wheels and he wants to
just run around in the backyard
, find something that he can run
around the backyard with.
If he doesn't care about
running around the backyard and
he just likes to go for a ride,
just take him for a ride, and
that can be a part of the gift,
because what you're building is
an experience that's just going
to grow.
You're building on these
experiences over the course of
life, and one of the great
things about experiences is
memories.
Speaker 2: Might be inside out,
making those core memories.
Speaker 1: Yep, yep, same thing,
and those are the things that
are so incredibly important.
So, recap, and then we're done.
Speaker 2: Recap the recap.
Speaker 1: Recap the recap If
you're a teacher, go Curtis.
Speaker 2: Know your students,
get to know them, learn them.
If you're a teacher, go curtis.
Know your students, get to know
them.
Speaker 1: Learn them if you're
a parent same thing.
Speaker 2: Just focus on what
they, what they like, what they
enjoy tom brady love them, you
hate them.
No, you hate them.
But she was a dolphin, she was
a dolphin.
Speaker 1: So, with that said,
we're gonna wrap up this episode
.
Uh, thank you for hanging out
with us.
I want to say thank you to our
one listener Mom, I love you,
and that's it.
We'll talk to you guys next
time.
Have a good day, oh, and a
Merry Christmas, because I don't
know if we're going to do this
again before then.
No, oh wait.
No, we'll do it.
Yeah, why was I?
You know, what I don't know.
Speaker 2: We've got a couple
more weeks right.
Speaker 1: We need to go ahead
and bush stop.
Speaker 2: I think we've at
least got two more episodes
before.
Yeah, all the festivities and
company goings and things,
meetings, word.