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Hello folks.
Welcome to ISO Insiders.
This is episode two,
two, deuce Des.
That means we are, let's see, 3, 4, 5.
Seriously counting on the fingers.
That's what we're doing.
Now,
we're five episodes from failing.
Oh, right, because seven
is the magic number.
No.
Yeah.
If you make it over seven.
Maybe it'll work for you.
Well, we're trying to, no, we're
sticking with this, dammit.
We're sticking with this.
If we can do the other
podcast, which I won't name.
Yeah.
Because I'm not trying
to get us blacklisted.
No.
Yeah.
But, um, you know, if we can do that one
for like two seasons or three seasons.
Yeah, I feel like we can
do this one way longer.
Yeah.
There's always also
the episodes are shorter, so we
really have no excuse and we've gotten
better at producing these episodes.
Right.
Yeah.
Since we started, some of the
episodes is gonna be talking
about how we produce these.
What year was that?
That we started the other one?
2013 or something like that?
It was like 2013.
Wow.
20 13, 20
20 12, 20 13, I think.
2013.
And that went for like two or three years.
And then was the offshoot.
Right.
We can't mention the name
of this podcast because, um,
yeah, it's out there, but
it's, it's out there and kind
of YouTube kind of band us Well,
uh, band the first one,
the second one is still,
the second one's fine.
Yeah, but I'm not gonna mention that
because we we're, we're a lot more decent.
I
we are decent.
You know, we got older, we're more
mature ish, I don't know, mature.
Anyway, the whole point of this today.
Is what?
What are we doing?
Drones.
Drones.
Drones.
Not the deadly ones.
The, the,
the, uh, what's the deadly ones?
The one for the military.
Oh, I thought the, see, I just
watched Alien Romulus, so I
was wondering if you're talking
about like alien drone warriors.
Don't matter.
Oh, I'm tired.
It's been a long day.
I haven't seen that one.
I liked it.
It was really good.
ISN in theater still, or?
It might be, but it also just
got into streaming so you
can actually, uh, pay for it.
Oh,
okay.
But you could probably,
I'm not gonna pay for it.
I'll wait for it to
just, you know, pop up.
Oh, for free.
Yeah.
I, or you know, maybe I'm on a flight
somewhere and it pops up on the
Titan Street.
Actually, you know what, you are right,
because when we came back, when we were
flying to Missouri when the wedding, yeah.
They had like the latest movies.
Right on there.
And I was very impressed
with, I saw bad boys.
Me too.
I was very impressed with Delta selection.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And once again, we have
navigated away from the topic.
Well, it's about flying, but anyway, yes.
Drones, specifically DGI, uh, drone.
Uh, like one one drone.
Right.
One particular drone.
This is what they've
released something recently.
Yes, they did.
Okay.
What would, so.
Uh, tell the folks a little bit about
your experience with, um, drones.
Yeah, sure.
So,
yeah.
Um, first of all, I am a photographer
and a videographer, and when I
first got into the media industry,
I actually started with drones.
Um.
I am a part 1 0 7 holder, which means I
can do this professionally and get paid.
And I went through the whole school of
training with a couple of my mentors
in terms of airspace and particular
drone protocols, flying in safe areas
over people, all that wonderful stuff.
I even got certified to fly at night, uh,
in Las Vegas with 12, which is pretty fun.
Nice.
Um.
The drone in particular
that, uh, oh, one more thing.
I also used to work for DGI,
so that was back in the day.
The drone in particular that I'm talking,
that we're talking about today is the,
uh, DDGI Air three s, which was just
released on, uh, the 15th of October.
Mm-Hmm.
And that's pretty excited for this drone.
Because I haven't bought
a new drone in years.
I, at one point, when I was flying
heavy, I had six different drones.
I had the Mavic Air, I
had the Mavic to Zoom.
I had the Phantom four Pro
V two, and a couple others.
I don't even remember
the name of it anymore.
Like I just had a bunch.
Mm-Hmm.
Right.
But as I got into ground photography
more, I was like, I don't need
to have all these drones anymore.
So I sold like most of
them and I just kept one.
And nowadays I have the Mavic two Zoom.
And the reason why I stuck with the this
drone is because it got the job done for
what I was getting hired for nowadays.
And that would be roof
inspections nowadays or, um.
Inspecting light poles or something
like random things that I don't
need a top of the line drone for.
I don't need a Mavic
three thinning for that.
Right.
A DGI zoom, uh, does Mavic
Zoom tool works perfectly fine.
Oh, sorry.
Mavic two zoom.
I had that backwards.
Somebody's gonna be in the comics going,
sir, it's actually the Mavic two Zoom.
Yes.
Actually, I apologize.
I apologize.
I got it right actually.
So anyway, yeah, I haven't bought
a drone in a couple years 'cause I
was satisfied with the one I had.
Even though my mentor always told me,
if you have one drone, you have none.
If that one fails, you have no
backup, you're screwed on the job.
Thankfully I don't really
focus on that anymore.
But, um, the other reason why was
because there's all this talk of
DGI i's drones getting banned.
By the new bill that they're
trying to push through.
Uh, I believe it's Congress.
Mm-Hmm.
So I didn't wanna go and buy, put
down all this money on a brand
new drone, and all of a sudden it
becomes a nice paperweight because
it can't be registered with the FCC.
Right?
Yeah.
Mm-Hmm.
So I've been just chilling in the
background, observing all the new drones.
Drop, drop, like the, um, what was
the other one that I was looking at?
The, oh, the minis.
The nice beginner drones
that are just like.
Compact.
You don't have to register 'em
'cause they're under 250 grams.
Like that's cool.
Right?
Yeah.
Um, and they still could get
decent little jobs here and there.
I'm not saying for professional work,
but technically if you're really good
at editing, you could actually use
any of those drones for professional
work and just sneak it in there.
Um, I'm not saying you should Right.
But I'm saying that you can.
Mm-Hmm.
And I know some people who have.
Not me.
I don't own any of those drones.
I have the Mavic to Zoom, which
I can use for professional stuff.
But you know, there's the
other level of drones.
So you have the starter drones, you have
the the minis, then you have the Mavic,
then you have the, well, I don't even
think they have the phantoms anymore.
Like they don't really, they haven't
really made a new phantom in a while.
So I think the Phantom four Pro V two
was the one last Phantom that they
made, and that's the one I had and I
sold that one for my Sony A seven four.
And then you have the next
level of drones, the Inspires.
Mm-Hmm.
Those are the beautiful $6,000 drones.
That's not even counting the
cost of the lenses and all the
extra stuff that comes with it.
Mm-Hmm.
Um, the Inspire, I think the last
one they came out with, uh, came
out with was the Inspire three.
That's a beautiful drone.
And then you have the.
Big boys that they use on film sets.
Not actually, they used the inspires too,
but uh, I believe it's called the Matrice.
I'm so out of practice.
It's been a while.
Yeah.
But the matrice drones,
those are really big.
And, um, the only thing bigger than
that, that I can think of off the top of
my head would be the, um, agri drones.
And those are the ones that you can
use that farmers use, that you could
actually pre-program flight plants to,
um, spray crops and stuff like that.
Oh, that's cool.
It's pretty, yeah, it's pretty easy.
You just fill up the tank with
whatever you wanna spray on there.
Mm-Hmm.
Put in your flight plan and press a button
and it goes up and it goes really easy.
That's really cool.
Yes.
I think that drone is $15,000.
Yeah.
They're farmers.
They can't afford it.
Yeah.
Actually, you know, side note,
did you know most farmers,
American farmers are millionaires?
Yeah.
Mm-Hmm.
Isn't that crazy?
Mm-Hmm, bro.
I mean, there's only, well, that's a whole
other, that's a whole different thing.
But anyway.
Anyway,
yeah.
So.
I was excited for the DGI Air three s
based on the rumors and stuff like that.
So, you know what?
Let's actually go through the features
since the drone has been released.
Mm-Hmm.
So you have the one Inch
CMOs primary camera.
First of all, it has 14
stops of dynamic range.
It's a 24 millimeter format equivalent,
50 mega, uh, pixel resolution.
Like it's a beast of a camera
for, you know, what most
people nowadays would need.
If you are not, 'cause I know somebody's
in the comic gonna say, if you are
not a professional filmmaker, that
requires something like an inspire.
Your mileage may vary depending
on what you need this for.
Mm-hmm.
But for most people who just wanna get
like quick content done, this drone.
That's
probably the best way to go
about it.
Provides a lot without blowing the budget.
Mm.
Without blowing the budget.
That's, that's a very particular key point
and I'll, we'll talk about that more.
Mm.
So the second camera is the 70 millimeter,
um, 70 millimeter medium tele camera,
48 megapixels, one of a one point
third, uh, CMO sensor, which apparently
matches the primary camera's, uh, video
specs and color modes, which is cool
while offering three x optical zoom.
Right.
Hmm.
I think that's awesome.
You'll, uh, both cameras are
capable of four 60, uh, 4K 60
frames per second atrial video.
Um, and if you know how to color
grade the fact that you can
do 10 bit D log M color mode.
Yeah.
So if you can really color grade well.
Using, uh, final Cut Pro, premier da
Vinci, that kind of, that sort of thing.
Like you can get really beautiful
footage out of a drone like this.
And when I first started flying
and I really didn't understand
photography and I was just learning
everything at the same time, I.
Or and videography.
I used to wanna help people get their
colors to pop and stuff like that.
I'm like, oh, I'm flying my drone
and I'm taking the pictures.
I'm recording the video, but it does
not look anywhere near as vibrant
and colorful and stuff like that.
As the other people who I see
flying these things on YouTube,
not realizing at the time.
A lot of people on YouTube, a lot
of these pilots are color grading
their footage after the fact, so
they're just giving that extra.
Bedazzle on it, right?
So you know, I've gotten
better over the years.
So like this lets you do so much more.
And there's also this free
panorama thing, which apparently
stitches together multiple images.
That's pretty cool.
Present
free.
You have to pay for panorama.
I think what it means is you don't
have to stitch it together yourself.
Oh, okay.
They do it for you.
Okay.
Which is, it's very odd.
It's
free.
It's like you can do that on your phone.
It's like, it's like a feature, but how
many people actually use their
phones to make panoramas?
Not many, uh, only creative
people I see do it.
I've done
it a few times, but I
don't even have use for it.
But it's cool when you
actually remember to do it.
Mm-Hmm.
Um, one thing I'm really impressed
with is the f uh, facing lidar.
Um, and the, uh, three pairs of
vision sensors that allow nightscape.
It has.
So technically it's nightscape
omnidirectional, obstacle sensing.
I've seen some YouTubers test this.
So I'm talking about they'll be in
a forest and they'll have the drone
tracking them with active track.
Wow.
And it's actually pretty impressive.
It'll go around the trees and
the branches and stuff like that.
At night.
At night.
Oh, that's kind of cool.
That is impressive because I
wanna say for the last few years.
Uh, the other drone company, which
I really don't like right now.
And if you're a drone pilot,
you know why I don't like them?
Especially if you're a professional
drone pilot in America.
Mm-Hmm.
Should I mention that name?
I mean, they're, if you know,
a competitor is, I guess
let's just say DJ's
the biggest competitor.
Mm.
In America, if you know about
that company, you know, like for
the, uh, before they were pretty
good at doing this better than DGI
like their version of tracking.
Was better.
Not saying DJs was bad, but
theirs on drones was better.
Now, from what I can see, I
think DJ can give a run for their
money with their active tracking.
Ah, it's really impressive.
Okay.
Okay.
Um, another good thing that I saw
somebody test was their next gen.
Uh.
Smart return to home
with enhanced precision.
So that means normally you'd have to
let the drone take off, lock in, um,
with the satellite, and then if you
lose connection with your controller to
the drone, the drone will return home.
Oh, okay.
But now I.
This can actually memorize exactly
where it took off from without even
having to connect to a satellite.
And I'm talking about like, if you take
off, I'm not saying you should do this,
but you know, please do not try this.
But if you take off from, let's
say, a table in front of a window.
Mm-Hmm.
An open window, and you fly your drone
through that window, you're air three s
and it takes off and you lose connection.
Theoretically it's supposed to
be able to fly back down through
that window and land on the table
exactly where it took off from.
I haven't seen somebody try yet,
but I've seen some close comparisons
and it's, it's really accurate.
And I was like, oh, that's nice.
That is seriously nice because if somebody
like me, I'm always paranoid about.
Losing my drone.
Right.
And I, that connection, ha I have lost
my connection to my previous drones.
Mm-Hmm.
But their return to home feature
was really nice because it'll
just come over, fly and land.
Mm-Hmm.
But I've also seen other people on
YouTube completely lose their drone.
So that fear is always there,
that you could be the next person,
you know, experiencing that.
So, so this particular, is this new, this
is, uh, the enhanced position thing Yes.
On this particular
drone.
So I, I thought that was, uh.
I mean, I don't know much about
drones or anything like that, but I
figured that might make more sense.
I mean, these things are not cheap.
And also, uh, I didn't realize it,
it it, so it just kind of comes back.
So you're saying before it will come back
to the general area, but not exactly.
It, it like Yeah,
but it also relied on the satellite
fix of having the GPS signal.
Oh, okay.
This
doesn't need a GPS signal.
So this is like onboard sort of thing?
Yes.
Using the camera
system.
Oh, okay.
Cool.
And the sensors.
So I think that's pretty
freaking impressive, honestly.
Yeah.
And that gives me more
confidence to fly the drone.
Mm.
Knowing that it should, it has a higher
chance of return to where it should be.
Nice.
Awesome.
So I'm pretty impressed with that, um, 45
minute flight time, like, that's so cool.
Now.
Advertise 45 minute flight time.
Of course, if anybody's flowing drones,
you know, many factors can affect that,
including how hard you're pushing your
drone in terms of speed, wind resistance,
and of course, outside temperature.
The colder it is, the
faster the battery drain.
Hmm.
But my current drone.
I think I get 28 minutes, somewhere
between like 25 and 28 minutes.
Mm.
45 minutes is pretty cool.
Mm.
That gives me way more flight time.
It gives me a chance to really
get up there and actually get the
shot that I want without having to
have the drone come back, switch
batteries, set it back up again.
So that makes me, so
that's why you have to buy
two of these instead?
No, actually when one
die, send the other one.
No, no, no.
So actually, well there's this
thing that, uh, DJ I is known for,
which is called the Fly More Combos.
Mm-Hmm.
And they provide a whole bunch
of extra accessories, but they
also normally provide three extra
batteries depending on the drone.
Mm-Hmm.
So that way you just have them
charged up, ready to go, have
the drone come back down, switch
'em out, send it right back up.
Interesting.
Okay.
And of course this drone also
has the fly wall combo as well.
We'll talk about that.
Yeah.
Um, the 20 kilometer video transmission.
Um, I'm in America.
I have no idea how many miles
can Columbus gotta convert.
We gotta convert that.
It's horrible, you know, since I'm from
the Caribbean like you are, and I still
don't remember how to convert that.
I, I don't, that's
converted really quickly.
I 20 kilometers.
Just
ask the smart speaker.
We have one.
I have my iPad 12
miles.
Wow.
Oh, okay.
Wait, okay.
That's impressive because I
think my, my ma to zoom is
only up to seven, or is it 10?
It's been a long time.
I don't remember these stats
anymore off the top of my head.
Listen,
anything over a mile for a video
transmission, that's insane.
Especially on something that's, that's
considered a consumer product like.
Right.
But any particular, uh, safe pilot
knows that you're supposed to maintain
line of sight with your video.
I mean, with your drone, right?
You should not be flying your drone
where you can no longer see it
because it's a spec on the horizon.
Ah, you need to
be able to see your
drone to maintain safety.
Mm.
Because if anything could happen.
So that's not something I would ever test.
But I've had my drone guard far
before, but I also normally have,
um, visual observers with me.
Mm.
Like stationed down there, like away from
me with like mics or something like that.
That's what 12 would do if, or I
would be for 12 if he's flying.
Right.
So that was my assistant, by the way.
He's an awesome flyer.
When it gets cold, I let him fly instead.
Nice.
My hands ain't, my hands
don't deal with that.
So, um.
Yeah, it's a pretty impressive
drone, honestly, I'm not gonna lie.
And the footage I've seen
shot on it, I'm in love with.
Like, I really want this drone.
So let's look at what's in
the box of the base package.
You have the, actually this
is not the base package.
This is the fly more.
It has to be the fly more.
Let's see.
Yeah, this is, there we go.
So this is the base package.
Mm-Hmm.
You get the drone?
Yeah.
And a controller, you get
No, you get the, yeah, you get the drone.
A controller, a battery,
and a couple of cables.
A couple of extra propellers.
Okay.
And that's about it.
And a gimbal cover.
Oh.
Is that, is that for transport or it
can No, just to protect the camera.
Can fly with it.
Just to protect the camera.
You, you do not fly with that on.
Yeah.
Especially if you like seeing your, uh,
when the camera, when the, the drone
turns on, the cameras do a little dance.
Ah, right.
It's not gonna do that way down there.
Self, uh, orientates.
Yes.
So you always have to
take that off, right?
Um, I don't think I've
ever bought a DGI drone.
Um, that wasn't the base package.
I've always bought the fly more.
Package for extra batteries.
For extra batteries and extra accessories.
I mean, that makes sense.
Yeah.
Also, by the way, one of the reasons why
I left DGI, which because I was so in
love with the products, I was spending
more money than I was getting paid.
Ah, man.
I was, that's why you
need to work in the c-suite
so that you could just go into
the r and d like, all right.
Lemme get that man.
I wish,
I wish it was cool, like having all
the pre-knowledge of the drones and
stuff like that and sometimes being
able to take them out and test them.
Mm-Hmm.
But this is the reason
why I had like six drones.
'cause I was buying them so much.
Mm.
I was literally spending way more
money than they were paying me.
Damn.
So I had to leave.
So, yeah, here we go.
The Fly Mall combo gives you, I, it
looks like an ND filter set, uh, set
of course for the, um, the cameras.
Nice.
Um, three batteries, a shoulder
bag, which I always recommend.
Having the custom bags makes
your life a whole lot easier.
Mm-Hmm, the charging hub, and
of course, the same controller.
Now, if you go up to the fly more
combo, uh, with the RC two controller,
this is what I would buy now today
because it has the built-in screen.
If you don't have the built-in
screen, you gotta use your phone
and put it into the controller
and use that as the camera feed.
I hate that.
I'm sure that has like a
its own host of issues.
Right, because that's
like a connectivity, bro.
Somebody calls me, I'm screwed.
Oh no.
I hate when that happens because
yeah, I would imagine it's like
you have other apps running.
Yep.
You have.
You, you also have to con, you know, does
that controller, uh, charge your phone at
the same time or is it like you have to
like, kind of rely on just your battery?
I don't remember like, does it overheat?
Like those are the questions I would have.
My phone does
overheat, but this is the reason why
I kept, this is exactly the reason
why I kept my Galaxy Note eight.
Mm.
Because I wanted the ability to be able
to just have a phone that has no, um,
data connection, anything like that.
The wifi is off, it's just plugged
directly into the controller
from my, uh, Mavic to Zoom.
Mm-Hmm.
And that's all I have to worry about.
And it's a clean, it's a clean install.
So it's only DGI it apps on
there, or like the, the, uh.
Slider app, but nothing else.
Crazy to complicate the phone.
Mm.
But having the ability to have the
screen built into the controller means
I don't have to worry about that.
Also, that screen is pretty bright.
Yeah.
So it just takes away one less
thing when you're about to fly.
Oh, that's dope.
So it just makes life a whole
lot easier for any drone pilot.
So I would spend the money to get,
I would spend a 1600, honestly,
to get this particular package.
That controller for me, makes it more
than worth it of for ease of flying.
Okay.
So yeah, like it's an amazing drone.
And even though I, I, I would not,
like I told you, I was waiting to
see what would happen with this, uh,
with this band if it passes or not.
Next, uh, next year.
Mm-Hmm.
I don't like, need a
more complicated drone.
'cause technically today, if you
wanted to spend like $3,000, I think
you could still get the, um, yeah,
you can get the Maverick three.
Right?
And the Maverick three has a hassle.
Blad, uh.
Camera.
Yeah.
Here we go.
Has a hassle.
Black camera in there.
For God's sakes.
That's three cameras.
I don't need a hassle black camera.
I'm not out here making a
professional music videos.
I don't need all that.
Would I, would, would I turn it
down if somebody gave me one?
Absolutely not.
Yeah,
I would take that in a heartbeat and be
very gracious, but I don't need that.
That's not, that's not for me.
For me, somebody who's, you know.
Who can still color grade and take
simple footage and, you know, get
it to where it needs to be for, you
know, the corporate boring stuff.
This DGI era, uh, air three s is perfectly
fine and for anybody who wants to get like
that semi-professional look, but doesn't
wanna spend over three grand for a drone.
Right.
Especially if you're trying to
get the fly more combo or all that
stuff like this is perfectly fine.
Also, one thing that's really
impressive for me is onboard storage.
Oh, nice.
Yeah.
Normally it's eight gigs.
Look at how much it is for this drone.
42 gigs.
Yes.
This man, I could, that's impressive.
I can forget my micro SD cards.
I never do, but I could forget
my micro SD cards in my, um, or
forget to put it in my drone.
Mm-Hmm.
And that's will take care of it.
I don't even know if I need to.
Actually I would.
And the reason why is because I like
being able to take the, the, uh,
card out and put it in my computer.
Right.
You need to transfer the footage overall.
Exactly.
But
what if I forgot?
42 gigs.
We, I think actually get
some seriously good video.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And that a 4K solution.
Amazing.
Yeah.
I love that.
About this drone.
So.
It's like, this is exactly
why I would get this.
Ooh, that's actually a good question.
Does DJ at three s
support vertical shooting?
Uh ooh.
So both the wide angle camera and the
medium tele camera support vertical
shooting nine by 60 and the max video
resolution is 2.7 K 60 frames per second,
which is pretty damn glu especially.
That was really cool.
Yes, I could see
a lot of TikTok dancers.
Hey, using that.
Hey, you know what?
Hey, hey.
Don't, don't laugh.
Okay.
That would be pretty freaking cool.
No, it would be cool there.
There are some people out there who
create some 'cause like, you know, would
this be useful for people like that?
You know?
But I guess at the same time, a
lot of influencers, it is not like,
you know, usually the bigger they
are, the more they have a team.
Mm-Hmm.
So that means they would have to get
this for somebody in their team that
knows how to know what they're doing.
But if you're just by yourself.
That's like a whole other thing
you need to learn to then create
your, you know, there was this one
guy who did, uh, this song, I'll be
fucked up if you leave me right now.
Oh, it's like a song They
like, it went kind of viral.
It's some, this one dude, he went
viral because he's a drone operator.
Mm-Hmm.
So what he did was he
got in his dad jeans.
And then he would do this like shimmy
and the drone would just circle
him and that was his whole thing.
And he got so fricking he went crazy
viral off of something like that.
I mean, DGI has, um, man, it's
been so long, but DJ drones have
built-in modes that have like
really cool, complicated, um.
Like
movements and stuff.
Movements or
pre-programmed it that you could
just be like, okay, just do this.
Cool.
So like they have the spiral one.
Yeah, they have the pullback.
There's like at least 10
of them that you can do.
Oh, yeah.
Um, that just makes
life a whole lot easier.
And I used to experiment with those
and I forgot about it until now.
But I, I, I, what I like
about these drones is that.
DGI always improves upon the previous
generation, making it easy and easier for
like somebody who's about to start flying.
Yeah.
To actually really get into drone flying,
improving the safety, improving the video
camera and the um, photography specs,
the flight times and stuff like that.
Like they're just made
to be user friendly.
Nice.
Other companies, not so much.
But that's why like, um, I am a
fan of DJ I and their products.
Hence why, you know, here we have all
the, you know me, I have the DJ Mikes, the
cameras, the pocket three, all that stuff.
Like yeah, there's a reason why
they're just all about making
pretty damn good pro um, products.
They made good stuff.
They do.
They didn't include AI
with this one, did they?
I don't.
That's like the latest thing, right?
Think so.
AI everything.
But it doesn't seem like,
from what I can see here, it
doesn't look like there's any.
AI included or whatever.
No, I, I, I don't think so.
So this particular drone is, it's
called the Air three, I'm assuming,
air three s Air, there's the Air
three s, there's the Air two and Air
one or those, or this is, is this a
whole new problem or is a replacement?
No.
Okay.
So this is the Air three s
before there was the Air three.
Ah,
interesting.
But there was an Air two and
I think an an Air two s and
I think there was an air one.
Like I honestly, I stopped
paying attention, um Mm-Hmm.
With the, um, with the airs.
Mm-Hmm.
Because like I said, I, I decide
to, I decided to settle on the
Mavic to Zoom because one, I
wasn't flying that much anymore.
And two, I didn't know how fast
this band was gonna kick in.
Right.
And I didn't wanna spend money
on a drone that might just be a
brand new paperweight on my desk.
So, um.
I believe there was, oh, these
are the other ones called, but
the DJ Minis, which are really
good for people now starting off.
So they're up to the DJ Mini Four Pro.
Mm.
Um, there was the air and the Air two,
and I think the Air two SI don't really
remember the details off of those
because I don't really mess with those.
You didn't look at those.
Yeah.
Um, what I do wanna get is
the, uh, or the DGI avatar.
This is the, um, this is the
one you put the goggles on.
Oh,
and then you fly.
I've
seen, I've seen those.
I've seen those in some, uh,
drone roast, uh, roasting row.
Drone roasting?
No.
Roasting drones?
No.
Um, racing.
Drone racing, yes.
Um, I've seen like a few, I
think at some point it was weird.
I think in Vegas there, there's like
a course there and they had, yes, it
was on television for like a while and
then it just kind of like no one cared.
It was like
drone, uh.
Oh my gosh.
Somebody, somebody please
put in the comments.
I've, I've watched this quite a few times.
Yeah.
But I don't know if they use the avatar,
those drones that you normally see.
Yeah, they're really tiny.
Yeah.
They're like custom made stuff like that.
Yeah, they're, those are made differently.
But this one Interesting.
Tho the pilots that fly those
particular drones are extremely skilled.
Yeah.
Reflexes are.
On point.
Yeah.
I'm, that's not me.
I would fly this, this, the DI avatar
tube makes it just easy to try it,
you know, and actually get into
the hang of it and stuff like that.
You could do tricks with it.
Mm-Hmm.
But it's not on, uh, it's not on
par with whatever those pilots fly.
Those are like Corvettes,
Ferrari, Lamborghinis of drones.
Amazing.
Those things runs
off of gas, not gas, but all props.
That'd be funny if it did.
It
all props those pilots because
they're extremely talented.
Yeah.
Um, but yeah, let's talk about the other
part of this, the, uh, availability right.
Of these drone.
So like I said, these drones
were released on the 15th and
dj, I started to ship them out.
Mm-Hmm.
But.
Then customs intercepted
a bunch of deliveries.
Mm.
Because all of a sudden, DGI got
classified under the, uh, what's
it, the Uyghur Forced Labor, uh,
prevention Act, I think it's called.
Yeah.
Uh, let's see, let's see,
let's see, let's see.
Oh, sorry.
Uyghur.
Forced labor prevention.
Yeah.
Um, for blocking the imports.
Mm-Hmm.
So as of right now, you can't get.
As of right now as we're,
uh, filming this Mm-Hmm.
You can't get them through
A BNH or anything like that.
The only way you can get this drone
is ordering it through DJI Mm-Hmm.
Um, that's the only way that
you're gonna get it in any direct.
So
it's a direct order, so Yeah.
Yeah,
yeah.
And any sort of time.
Mm-Hmm.
And there's like two politicians really
pushing this right now, and I have a
feeling as a lot of other people in the
drone community feel that they're getting
paid off by a certain drone competitor.
Yeah, that's usually how it goes.
Lobbying, of course.
Yeah.
It's like there's the lobbies is
out there and stuff like that.
So
it's very annoying because there's so
many professional pilots that rely on
DGI drones because of the ease of use
and how good they are, what they do.
Mm-Hmm.
And some companies, instead of
actually, you know, being encouraged
to, you know, innovate better, decides
to just stamp out the competition.
Because, so it was funny you
you mentioned that, right?
'cause I would assume this would affect,
um, not just people who are doing like
in the creative field of things, but
um, I could in, I can imagine land
surveyors or uhhuh, even hurricane relief.
Um, oh bro, this has got
rescue missions, bro.
This has gotten
banned, um, because of the
security, uh, concerns.
Uh, for DI, drones and like of China,
apparently, like having back doors
into gathering data through them.
Mm-Hmm.
They've been banned from
like all government agencies.
A lot of states have banned
them from their, uh, civil
agencies, stuff like that.
Mm-Hmm.
Which it sucks because like
police departments use them.
Right.
Fire departments use them.
Uh, rescue services use them.
Uh.
The drone, was it the dj?
I was it the Mavic three?
The Mavic two?
There's an enterprise edition that
I remember I was familiar with
that had like a thermal camera
built in and stuff like that.
You could put a speaker on it.
It was just really cool that you could
put all these different accessories
to help you find and rescue people
has that, that drone, you know,
they couldn't use anymore 'cause it
got banned over security concerns.
So.
Yeah.
It's like if we can't use these, the
other competition that's out there,
I'm still not naming them 'cause
I'm not giving 'em free advertising.
Mm-Hmm.
They suck.
Like they're not up to
snuff with DJ's, drones.
Right.
And it's horrible because if DJ just
does get banned, right, there's a ton
of pilots that all of a sudden would
be outta business professional pilots.
Mm-Hmm.
I'm talking about the
ones that do real estate.
The ones that do surveying, the
ones that do 3D mapping because.
The only other competition out there
is ridiculous amounts of money.
Mm-Hmm.
For not as good quality.
Like think of what just happened with
our cable, with our cable provider.
Right?
Remember?
Yes.
How we,
we had to switch from, we had
to switch from one Verizon.
From Verizon
to another brand, and the other brand
we're having to pay more, right?
For, for less, for less upload speeds
because the building didn't allow for
the installation of files or whatever.
Mm-Hmm.
It's the same kind of thing.
We're being forced to, you know, accept.
Lower quality, mediocre, pretty
mediocre quality is, it's very annoying.
Yeah.
So like we as American, like the pilots
have tried to band together and like,
I know there's been a lot of efforts
to combat this, but if this passes in
the house, I don't know what's gonna
happen to the drone industry in America.
I know, I did remember DJ said that, uh,
there was a rumor that DJ was trying to
either work with another company here.
Mm-Hmm.
So all the drones will be built here
or have their own factory in America.
Somewhere.
So then, you know, it
wouldn't be a big deal.
And you know, they, the
played played a money game.
Yes.
It's, it's because
DJ I has come out and said that
they are not willing to, um, give
up on the American market, on the
US market, which I'm thankful for.
Yeah.
I sound like a fanboy, but as
somebody who's actually sold their
products, I use their products.
Like I am pissed about the fact
that, you know, we are unfairly
caught in the crossfire of this.
No, you, I think you're correct because.
Like I, I'm sure some people would
accuse you of being your fanboy or
whatever, but the effect remains when,
when there's a product on the market.
Like for instance, let's say Apple, right?
Mm-Hmm.
I, I think in my personal opinion
and from my own experience, and
this is very analytical, um, it's,
uh, when it comes to tablets, apple
makes the best tablets and everybody
else, and I've tried other tablets.
Mm-Hmm.
I've tried the other stuff.
It's when it comes to like a cost.
And like availability.
Mm-Hmm.
Perspective, Android.
Um, you know, like Samsung
sometimes is the only other
competitor right now that like to
keep up with them
and like to a other, to a
lesser extent Windows as well.
You're
talking about the surface?
Yeah.
To like, oh, Microsoft.
Yeah.
Microsoft Surface.
Yeah.
To like, to like a, to a lesser, I
call it a lesser extent because I've
had experience with all three mm-Hmm.
And when it comes to like
functionality, speed.
Mm-Hmm.
That's like my biggest thing.
Speed is like, um, apple.
Is a great, it's like, it's a, you can't,
you can't beat it in in one connectivity,
how it works and everything like that.
And some people say, oh,
well, you're like a fan.
But it's like, no, I have a pixel phone.
You know?
But it's like when it comes
to like, I, it is like.
This works really well
for what I needed to do.
And it's like, and then on top
of that, it's well supported.
It's like I, there's all these
things that I can do with it.
So I can understand what DGI,
the, I mean, I've been hearing
about DGI for like the last,
I mean, probably, probably 10
years,
probably half of it probably came from me.
Exactly.
Like I've been, I've been
hearing about this stuff.
I even want DGI equipment
on these cameras.
Yes, you do.
You know, the lidar, the LIDAR system.
Exactly.
So it's like when, it's like when you
look like, is anybody else doing this?
Yeah.
Is it good?
Yeah.
It's like, it's like, it's
not really that, right?
It's like, you know, so it's like,
you know, if you're gonna, because
to me it's like with, with them
threatening this sort of thing.
'cause from what I was gathered
from this article, it doesn't
sound like they have any proof.
No.
It's just
literally hearsay.
And DJ has repeatedly, you know,
repeatedly these accusations saying like.
Our, uh, our equipment.
Mm-Hmm.
Our products are made in these
two, uh, cities not made, uh,
where the Uyghurs, uh, camp is.
Mm-Hmm.
And I think, uh, somebody else
has mentioned the fact that
they're actually, most of their
products are made autonomously.
Ah, so it's a robot factory.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So.
I don't know how DGI is gonna defend
against this, uh, short of having
people come and inspect their factories
or something like that, which I hope
they do, but I think they're being
unfairly targeted, especially by
these two particular politicians.
Mm-Hmm.
Which are more than likely being paid off.
Yeah.
I mean, I'm, politics is shit show
right now in America, so wherever you're
watching this from, but, um, okay.
Um, I mean.
I, I feel like this is something
very simple to just prove.
Um, but that, like you said, it
really depends on what, how far these
politicians are real willing to go.
Mm-Hmm.
To, you know, and then I guess how much,
you know, 'cause I, I, I would assume
DJ would have to also play hardball
with their own, I'm sure they have
lobbies, lobbyists themselves Yeah.
To, to like, to counteract
this sort of thing.
So.
That's a whole legal matter
that I'm not too familiar with.
So I'm not even gonna bother.
But hopefully I wish them,
I wish them the best.
'cause I still want that LIDAR system.
It's like
we better get the LIDAR system
before all of a sudden they ban
the, uh, DJ I products in, in know,
might as well, you know, in perpetuity.
China could look at my face.
It's all good.
I don't care.
It's like, it is like.
Um, but yeah.
Anyway, but, um, so cool.
So this thing costs what,
like 1600 bucks base?
It starts
off, I believe at, uh, 10 99,
and then, oh, that's not bad.
Then it goes up to 1600, uh, 1600.
Like I said, I would get the 1600 version
only because for me, I love having the
three extra batteries to carry in case
the ND filter set and the, uh, screen
the controller with the built-in screen.
That's very key for flying.
Okay.
Especially with the, you know,
in, in terms of brightness and
not having somebody call me and
interrupt my flying at the same time.
So, yeah, this is, is, if I were
to hit the lottery tomorrow,
I'll buy this and just tra and
become a, a travel influencer.
Just like if you hit the lottery
tomorrow, buy me an Inspire three, please.
Okay.
That, I mean, that's a bit overkill
for travel blogs, but Sure.
No, no.
I won't even use
a travel blog.
I'll fly in my backyard.
Okay.
But yeah, it's like.
But that's what I like.
That's why I'm like, okay, so this sounds
like, so this, so pretty much you're
saying in the, in the, in the, like
say there's like three tiers of drones.
This is like what midair sort of thing?
Or is it like, um, man,
that's a good question.
Top to midair, or it's like,
no, I wouldn't.
I wouldn't say, uh, okay.
I think there's four levels.
Okay.
Help me out here.
So you have the beginners,
that's where you have the minis.
Mm-Hmm.
Then you have the, let's
go with like the semi-pros.
'cause you also have, you have the
airs, the, uh, the air systems.
Mm-Hmm.
But then you also have the
Mavic, like the Mavic threes.
With the Mavic three, you definitely
can get in the professional zone area.
Mm-Hmm.
But then you have the.
Industrial,
well,
no, not even industrial yet.
Because then you have like
the, um, the inspires.
Mm-Hmm.
And the inspires are capable of so much
with their, um, with their speed, the
lens choices, whatever you can do, like
you can really pimp those things out.
Mm-Hmm.
And that's why that cost goes all
the way to like $16,000 once you
add in all the accessories and
extra lenses and stuff like that.
But then, like I said, even bigger than
that, you still have the matrice drones.
Mm-Hmm.
And then after that.
If you're a farmer and
you got it like that.
Then you have La Jones, like
the Aris and stuff like that.
So there's many different levels.
Um, if anybody's, uh, you know,
considering getting the air three SI feel
like it's definitely worth checking out.
Gotcha.
If they don't wanna really blow the
budget and if they really wanna still
get really good footage, especially
if they're good at color grading.
Especially if they're good to color grade.
That's the key part.
D log is gonna help them out a lot.
Um, I look forward to it.
I'm gonna, I'm gonna wait till next.
Honestly, I'm gonna wait till next
year to even think about getting this,
because I wanna see where we're at
with DJJ Drones in terms of legalities.
Okay.
Because, yeah,
because if you can't fly
them, 'cause they're brand.
'cause you know that's a whole other part.
We didn't, you didn't get into
'cause we don't have enough time
for it, but, well, you, well,
here's the thing.
If they're banned, you can
register with the network.
You, I don't think they would take off.
Oh damn.
They'll know where they are and
they won't be able to, um, register
themselves on FCC network, so
I don't think they'll even fly.
That sucks
Geo.
And you know what, it could be
possible that if they're banned,
they could institute geofencing.
Mm.
If they do
that, your join is
definitely not, not flying.
You're
definitely not going anywhere.
Yeah, I, I mean, there's a couple of
ways around it, and I learned that
working for DGI, but I'm not trying to
get in trouble with the FA, so I'm not
gonna tell you how to do that either.
FA does, that's going off
to a few people recently.
A
couple of people, yes, for the most
part they don't really, but when
they do, boy do they drop the hammer.
Oh yeah.
Do not mess up.
Mm-Hmm.
With the FAA.
So yeah, I'm just saying like right
now, if you're trying to get the, the
air three s, it's probably gonna be a
little while before they figure this out
with, um, customs and stuff like that.
Mm-Hmm.
You could probably get through DGI,
um, themselves, dj.com or hell,
you could probably just go and
fly and buy one overseas and get
it and get one and bring it back.
Yeah.
I think that's legal.
I guess you just move out the country.
I'm going to New Zealand,
just move out country.
I'm going to the Shire.
I am taking my DJ I A three s
and I'm flying it over the hills.
If that works.
I love it.
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