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The other day, Heartland Institute Editorial Director Chris Talgo was a guest on "The Absolute Truth with Emerald Robinson" on Lindell TV.
Chris was invited on the program to talk about our analysis of The Heartland Institute's blockbuster poll in December which found that one in four voters who used mail-in ballots in the 2020 presidential election admitted to submitting an illegal vote -- activities like voting in a state in which you are not a permanent resident, filling out a ballot that is not your own, or signing a ballot that was not your own. Whether or not those illegal activities were done with malice or by accident, those votes should have NOT been counted in the 2020 presidential election.
As a follow-up, Chris and others at Heartland analyzed this data to see how various levels of this illegal voting activity with mail-in ballots -- again, admitted to by Americans in our survey -- would have affected the 2020 Election in the six close swing states. Out of 29 scenarios, in which we continually lowered the level of illegal votes cast, Donald Trump would have won, not Biden, in 26 of them. Have a listen, and be sure to visit Heartland.org to view the results of our poll and analysis for yourself.
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This is the Heartland Daily podcast the other day, Hartland Institute editorial director, Chris Talgo was a guest on The Absolute Truth with Emerald Robinson on Lyndale TV.
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Chris was invited on the program to talk about our analysis of Heartland's blockbuster poll in December which found that one in four voters who used mail in ballots in the 2020 presidential election admitted to submitting an illegal vote activities like voting in a state in which you are not a permanent resident, filling out a ballot that is not your own or even signing a ballot that was not your own.
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Whether or not those illegal activities were done with malice or by accident.
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Those votes should not have been counted in the 2020 presidential election.
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As a follow up, Chris and others in Heartland analyzed this data to see how various levels of this illegal voting activity with mail in ballots.
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Again, admitted to by Americans in our survey would have affected the 2020 election in the six close swing states out of 29 scenarios in which we continually lowered the level of illegal votes cast.
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Donald Trump would have won not Joe Biden have a listen and be sure to visit heartland.org to view the results of our poll and analysis for yourself.
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What can you tell on national television on 60 minutes right now?
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What can you tell the American people about the integrity of the 2020 presidential election in the state of Georgia?
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I would tell everyone that Georgia has a verifiable paper ballot which means that when you rescan the ballots and when you do a hand recount, it did two things.
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It verified the count, but it also then verified the accuracy of the machines so that our machines did not flip votes.
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Then we also had a, a new online absentee ballot portal which is photo ID and over 70% of the people that used it in the runoff election used that form.
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And so that was secure.
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We never got rid of signature match.
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We actually did double signature match when you applied for the absentee ballot, you had to sign your name and we matched that signature.
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We verified it.
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Then when we sent you the ball, when the county sent you the ballot and they and you sent it back on the outside of your envelope, we verified that signature.
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So your signature was matched twice.
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We had safe, secure, honest elections.
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That was our old pal Georgia, Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger repeating the big lie that America's elections in 2020 were the most secure in history.
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Yet, as you've seen throughout this program, Rensberger claims are simply untrue and now a Georgia court is adjudicating claims that the electronic voting machines themselves are easy to hack.
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Our elections in 2020 were not safe or fair least of in Georgia, whether it be the possibility of corrupted voting machines or the very easy to see ballot stuffing schemes orchestrated by the Democrats and their allies.
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The 2020 election was a purposeful disaster by design under the guise of making everyone safe from COVID.
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Election.
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Authorities in the run up to the 2020 election changed the way that America conducts a sacrosanct elections.
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It reduced the need for voter verification.
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I excuse me, voter identification verification and encouraged widespread ballot fraud which the Democrats who were desperate to oust the orange man from the White House were more than happy to exploit.
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And now we have the proof that the fix was in a mind boggling.
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Survey survey was conducted by the Heartland Institute and Rasmussen which determined that a shocking one in five voters admitted to committing voter fraud in 2020.
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I say it's mind boggling because I can't figure out what's scarier that so many Americans gleefully held the Democrats to rig the 2020 election or that so many of them happily admitted to it.
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More unnerving is the thought that there are probably many more people who committed voter fraud but simply refused to admit it to inquiring pollsters.
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As you can see from the analysis that RM and did of the results of their joint poll, 21% of likely us voters who voted by absentee or melon ballot admitted to having filled out ballots for people other than themselves.
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Moreover, and this is especially important in those hotly contested states in 2020 such as Georgia and Arizona.
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At least 17% of and voters copped to casting ballots in states where they were no longer a permanent resident, Justin Harris, the Director of the Socialism Research Center at the Heartland Institute correctly described the results of the poll is stunning.
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Furthermore, the results of the Rasmussen poll proves that despite all the claims for elite media and political officials, the 2020 election was a shambolic corrupt affair that likely resulted in a false win for Joe Biden and Trump's wrongful removal from office with us.
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Now is Christopher Talgo.
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He is an editorial director and socialism, research fellow at the Heartland Institute.
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Christopher is here with us to share more insights and that disturbing report that his organization did in conjunction with Russ reports on how corrupt the 2020 election was.
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Chris, thanks for joining us.
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Yeah, thanks for having me.
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You know what it's kind of shocking.
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I, I guess a big revelation of this study is and I think it's disheartening is how lightly so many people take our elections which are really sacred to the heart of a constitutional republic.
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Yeah.
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So what what we found in our initial poll was that at least one in five voters admitted to committing one type of election fraud.
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And that's an important distinction to make because they could have committed multiple forms of election fraud.
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So that, that one in five number was our, was our low baseline.
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After we looked into the raw data supplied by Rasmussen, we actually came up with a new number.
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It's at 28%.
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So 28% of those who voted by mail in 2020 admitted to us that they committed one, at least one type of mail and voter fraud.
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So what we did then was we, we asked ourselves, you know, the election in the six swing states was very, very, very close.
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We're talking less than 20,000 votes per swing state.
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So we took the data that Ra Houston supplied us and then we applied it to the the mailing voter data that the states, you know, have on record.
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And we, we just extrapolated the numbers and said, well, you know, if 28% you know, committed election fraud, what would that have translated in terms of the mailing vote in th in those states?
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It's very important to remember that in those states, Biden, Biden had almost doubled twice the size of the mailing vote that Trump did.
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So when you extrapolate the data and say, well, if, if some of those were you know, those mailing votes should have been discarded because they were illegally cast.
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We show that in multiple scenarios, Donald Trump would have won the swing states and would have won the electoral college.
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The paper goes into you know, intricate detail here.
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But what I want the listeners to understand is even if we said that the, the mailing of the fraud rate was the same on both sides, Trump still wins.
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And then even if we say that the, that the mail in voter fraud levels were much lower than the Rasmussen poll says he still wins.
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So under a variety of scenarios, Trump would have won the 2020 election had mail in voting fraud been prevented from occurring before we get to the rest of this podcast.
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And this is simply looking at the melon melon voting fraud.
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We're not even getting to some of the other issues that surrounded the 2020 election.
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So I guess that is also another aspect of this that is extremely shocking because you're looking at just 11 facet of a lot of problems in the 2020 election, whether it be, you know, change in rules extended dates, all this and just looking at the melon ballots, did that surprise you?
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We were surprised, we thought that the the number was going to be in the 10% range.
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And when it came back at, you know, our initial number was one in five and then upon further analysis, it was actually 28%.
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We still think that that is a, a lower number.
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, keep in mind that we asked the, the, the poll questions in late 2023.
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That's about three years after the election occurred.
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We waited, you know, a long time because we thought that people would be,, more prone to be honest, you know, that far out as opposed if we had done it, you know, in a month, a couple of months after the election.
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So the this is self admitted.
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We, we, we have no reason to believe that they're lying about this.
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And, you know, common sense says that it was probably a little bit higher.
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And what does this really say about, says itself knew that there was no need for melon ballots, the increase in melon ballot due to the COVID pandemic that it wasn't going to cause widespread illness or, or put anyone in danger.
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And yet they continued to allow this narrative that there had to be melon massive melon voting.
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And, and in fact, we now know so based on a lot of reports and we actually talked about one earlier today that they, that they censored anyone even in the lead up.
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And I was one of those people they censored in the lead up to the 2020 election.
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And certainly most certainly afterward that questioned how bad the mail in ballots were to the outcome.
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This is pretty damning for the government agency that says this is the most, it was the most secure and safe election in history and continue, continues to have their hands all in our elections.
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In the introduction, we go into great detail as to how many media officials and you know, government officials just kept, you know, scolding us that this was the most safe and secure election.
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And if you, you know, if you question it, you're an election denier, you're wacky, you have, you know, no standing whatsoever.
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That is just simply not true.
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And we actually go and,, spent a lot of time digging up reports,, from the early two thousands all the way up to 2020 in which the New York Times, the federal election commission and many other sources said mail in voting is really, really prone to,, to, to be fraudulent.
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We should really discourage that as much as possible.
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But,, you know, emerald, another really important thing is that in the lead up to the 2020 election as we showed in the paper, every single swing state, every single swing state went out of their way to unconstitutionally change their voting rules.
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This is supposed to be only done at the state legislature level.
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However, secretaries of state and others in these states went out of their way to make it so much easier to commit voter fraud by mail.
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And it's also important to understand that they,, mass mailed these ballots based on notoriously inaccurate and outdated voter rolls, voter rolls as we've shown are not cleansed annually, which they should be.
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And that means that a flood of ballots, we're talking tens of millions across the nation went to people who no longer live that residence.
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And when whoever happened to live at that residence at that time could have so easily cast a vote on behalf of that person dropped into a ballot, dropbox or whatever.
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and then that vote was cast and counted.
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What do you hope happens as a result of your report?
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Do, do you think that state legislatures will read your report and make changes?
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Absolutely.
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We, we have a pretty extensive policy recommendation section at the end in which we are trying to get state legislatures to do something before it's too late.
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We've only got a couple of months, you know, here before the 2024 elections going to take place, we need states to make sure that they do what's necessary to make sure that the vote is free, fair, safe and secure.
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real quick, Florida and Georgia did a great job of this right after the 2020 election, Florida in particular passed a bunch of reforms saying, hey, every year, we need to make sure that our voter rolls are clean.
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Hey, we need to make sure that we are encouraging people to vote in person.
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If you're going to be voting by mail, you should have an excuse, which is the way it should be.
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We are asking and really hoping that more states jump on board and it, it really is important that the swing states do this.
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We're a state based think tank.
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So we have, you know, connections with state lawmakers across the nation.
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We're doing everything we can to make sure that they make the necessary changes to prevent a 2020 relapse.
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Yeah, I hope they actually take this seriously.
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Take your recommendations to heart and do something about it.
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We're running out of time.
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No one questions that we're, we're down to the wire on securing and fixing these problems before, before while we can, before people go to vote for you and our audience, you want to take, take a look at this very extensive and detailed report and perhaps share it with a lawmaker you might know in your state, you can go to heartland.org.
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Heartland.org.
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Thanks so much Chris for jumping on with us today.
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This is really important work that you all have done and and we're happy to get to share it with our audience.
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Hey, thank you for bringing to everybody's attention.