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You will never truly reach your full potential, but you will always be in the process of becoming your best.
This podcast will is all about tapping into continual progression mentally, emotionally, physically and spiritually.
Josh (00:00)
Welcome back to the process of becoming podcast. My name is Josh. And my name is No. Guys, if this is your first episode, the process of becoming, let's explain that a little bit. So the idea of this podcast is Dino and I have come to an understanding in life and we both live a life understanding that we will never become that version of ourselves that we know we can become. And as you progress on your journey, you're always going to want to become better. So hence the name, the process of becoming, you're always gonna be in the process. This is not the process. You never knew the process.
Dino Music (00:03)
And my name is Dino.
The idea of this podcast is, you know, when I ask for an understanding of life, and both of the life understandings, that we will never become that version of ourselves that we know we can become. And as you progress on your journey, you're always going to want to become better. So, hence the name, the process of becoming, you're always gonna be in the process. This is not, to Josh's point, you're never gonna be perfect. And I think the cool part about why we started this is also we're in two different, I don't wanna say paths, but two different lives, right? From where we came from, to what we do now.
Josh (00:30)
And I think the good part about why we started this is also we're two different, I don't want to say fabricate, but two different lives, right? From where we came from, from what we do now. And I think that's the best part about it all is regardless of where you're at in life, regardless of what your goal is, values, whatever it is, you can always get better at that, the entire people of life that I think we miss out on a lot. But that's the journey. That's the fun part, right? And it's doing it together. So, yeah, dude, I'm excited. We got today. Me too.
Dino Music (00:39)
And I think that's the best part about it all is regardless of where you're at in life, regardless of what your goals, values, whatever it is, you can always get better. And that is the entire piece of life that I think we miss out on a lot. But that's the journey. That's the fun part. Right. And it's doing it together. So, yeah, dude, I'm pumped. I'm excited. What do we got today? What do you want to what do you want to kick this off with? Mr. Josh.
Josh (00:59)
I want to kick it off with the first time. It's awesome to see your face in person. So, uh, we recorded an episode last weekend. I was at a hotel down in, uh, where was I? Cape Gerardo. I was in Southern Missouri, uh, for a volleyball tournament. Recorded an episode. Internet connection was terrible and therefore the audio was terrible. So, yeah, it was a great episode though. Um, so we're going to kind of rehash that topic and just give it to you real. Uh, we just spent about 45 minutes playing with the audio. So.
Dino Music (01:03)
Oh stop dude, you're too kind.
Spring? Oh, I was about to say Springfield.
Hotel or net sucks man, it's just terrible.
Josh (01:26)
It's gonna be good, but how you been, man? You have a good week? Yeah, bro, absolutely, bro. I've been, I've been pretty good. Had a lot of personal stuff come up, but nothing crazy. Just a lot of thinking. I was out actually one day, and one day, I had a weird like headache or some shit, and it's the first time I think I've ever had any allergies, and I didn't even know what allergies felt like, bro, because I've never had them. So I had to ask some people. I took my Claritin and some other stuff, and it worked, and I'm like, okay, this, okay, I understand this now. So that was a new.
Dino Music (01:28)
Yep. Yeah, bro, absolutely, bro. I've been pretty good, had a lot of personal stuff come up, but nothing crazy. Just a lot of thinking. I was out actually Monday and Wednesday. I had a weird like headache or some shit. And it's the first time I think I've ever had any allergies. And I didn't even know what allergies felt like, bro, because I've never had them. And so I had to ask some people. I took like Claritin and some other stuff and it worked. And I was like, okay, I understand this now.
So that was a new challenge. But yeah, dude, outside of that, everything's been rocking. How about you, bro? How's life?
Josh (01:55)
That's awesome. But yeah, dude, outside of town, you can rock it. How are you from? Dude, that story reminds me of a buddy that I had growing up in elementary school. He was born in Pennsylvania, but moved to Louisiana before he really knew anything about life. He was maybe moved back from Louisiana in like sixth grade. Amazing basketball player, by the way. But the first time we had frost on the ground, he came outside with his hat and gloves, his sled, and he thought it was like actual snow. And he was like all fired up. So I think it's really funny that you mentioned like, dude, I didn't know what allergies were. Like it freaked me out.
Dino Music (02:18)
I think it's really funny that you mentioned like, dude, I didn't know what allergies were. Yeah. What that one makes you is that like the allergies that you have nowadays, not so crazy, but it's just the company you get all the time. It's a little bit different. That is true. Fun fact, and I don't know why this made me think of this, but there's this concept and it's interesting. But if you look at how many people have peanut allergies now, it's insane.
Josh (02:24)
But I will throw in there too, is that like the allergies that we deal with nowadays, um, not to go crazy, but the shit that they're pumping into the atmosphere all the time, um, it's a little bit different than it used to be. So that is true. Uh, on that, and I don't know why there's this concept, uh, it's interesting, but if you look at how many people have peanut allergies, it's insane. But when you go backwards and you figure out like what really happened. So whenever you're first like peanut allergy takes to when the
Dino Music (02:46)
But when you go backwards and you figure out like what really happened. So whenever the first like peanut allergy case or when the, when it kind of started to become publicly known. So at the time it was like one in 4,000 kids or something would get it. So the school systems completely were like, Hey, no nuts, no peanuts, no nothing. And you would think like, Hey, if we remove the bad stuff, you would see less of it. In fact, because they removed the bad stuff, they saw a lot more of it. Um, so I just thought that was interesting because sometimes it's like
Josh (02:52)
when it kind of started to become publicly known. So at the time it was like one in 4,000 kids or something to get it. So the school systems completely were like, hey, no nuts, no peanuts, no nothing. And you would think like, hey, if we remove the bad stuff, you would see less of it. In fact, because they removed the bad stuff, they saw a lot more of it. So I thought that was interesting because sometimes it's like, you don't experience those things, but you should because that is also what makes you better. It makes you get through that stuff.
Dino Music (03:15)
you don't experience those things, but you should because that is also what makes you better or makes you get through that stuff. Right. It's like, dude, if you never go outside, I think back to bench warmers. I don't know if you've ever seen that movie, but that dude that locks himself in the closet and like afraid of sunlight. But it's like, dude, if you never go outside, the first time you go outside, you're getting sick. You know what I mean? So it's like, you got to experience those things. So I don't know why that made me think of that. But first time for everything, right? Right. We're going to have to release a video for this video. And you can take it. But that point, you know.
Josh (03:21)
It's like, dude, if you never go outside, I think back to Ben Chalmers, I don't know if you ever seen that movie. And then you let a lot of people lock themselves in a closet and like pray to something like that. But it's like, dude, if you never go outside, the first time you go outside, you're getting sick. You know what I mean? So like you gotta experience those things. So I don't know why that made me think of that, but first time for everything. The energy in the room, right? We're gonna release some video for this too. We are in a new location. But to that point, Dino, there's like a big correlation of like as we progress as a society to like all the illnesses and like the...
Dino Music (03:45)
There's like a big correlation of like as we progress as a society to like all these things like the Celiac and all these other things. And when you think about it, when I was a kid, now I'm aging myself, but we didn't have that now. I was in, I was out there playing in the third year. I was getting exposed to all that stuff so.
Josh (03:51)
uh, celiac and like all these other things. And like you think about it when I was a kid, you know, I'm aging myself here probably, but we didn't have technology. Like we have the other days I was in this, I was outside playing in the freaking dirt, I was getting exposed to all that stuff. So if you're a parent listening to this, like let your kids be kids. Like my kid, I mean, freaking my babies, we'd take them to target when they were little and they would sit there and lick the cart and handle my wife's freaking out on my, if they're building their immune system, you know what I mean? Like, I don't know what it is, but for me, like I hardly ever get sick. Like once a year.
Dino Music (04:03)
Your parents didn't invest, but I like your kids and you kids. My kids, I mean freaking my babies, you take them to Target and they're little heads up there and they're just like. I love that. My wife's freaking out. I'm like, hey, if they're building everything. We're making them stronger. I don't know what it is. But for me, I'm like.
Josh (04:20)
And I think a lot of that is because I built such an amazing new system as a kid. I think that makes 100% sense. But also because you, even though you're not old, okay, I don't want to say it, but you're dad. I'm wise. You're wiser. You're more knowledgeable. But I think a lot of it is you don't have to take care of yourself now too. But due to your point, I think that is a big thing. Like even my mom, she was more overly protective, but even saying that doesn't sound right because she wasn't at the same time. You know what I mean? She's like, let me go outside. Let me do, let me make a lot of dumb mistakes.
Dino Music (04:22)
I think that makes 100% sense, but also because you do even though you're not old. Okay. I don't, that's not what I'm saying, but your dad. Okay. So you're wiser. Yeah. You're more knowledgeable, but I think a lot of it is you also take care of yourself now too. Um, but due to your point, I think that is a big thing. Like even my mom, she was, uh, more overly protective, but
even saying that doesn't sound right because she wasn't at the same time. You know what I mean? She like let me go outside. She let me do she let me make a lot of dumb mistakes. And because of those things, it made me better. And into your point, if you're a parent listening to this, I think you should let your kids go. Fuck, you know, get hurt a little bit sometimes like let them let them go let them experience life. Because if you don't, and you shelter them forever, they're never gonna learn how to handle problems as they grow up. So damn, son fire, bro. This is this is a good start. All right.
Josh (04:49)
And because of those things, it made me better. And I think to a point, I think your parents listening to this, I think you should let your kids go, you know, get hurt a little bit sometimes. Like, let them go, let them experience life. Because if you don't, you can talk to them forever, they're never gonna learn how to handle problems that they've brought. So, I think it's- Hey man, we can end the episode right there. I think that's all we need right there, bro. Just a good start. It's true. You know, giving parenting advice over there, is gonna be a great parent. Oh, I do call on that, bro. Hey, that's actually a big thing of my future. I'm gonna be a dad, I'm always gonna be a dad. So.
Dino Music (05:11)
Aw dude, come on now. That's actually a big thing of my future. I wanna be a dad. I've always wanted to be a dad. So I actually take that. I know that might've been a joke, but I take that. Like, thank you, bro. I appreciate that. Thank you.
Josh (05:17)
I know that might have been a joke. Nah, that's for real. Thank you, Rob. I appreciate that. I have a gift of intuition and I've never, I haven't talked about this in the podcast. I don't call it a skill because I believe intuition can be a skill, but I actually have a gift of it. Like within a few seconds of meeting somebody, I can tell you a lot about that human being just from like reading by, I don't know how it all works, but it's just there. Like it's, I've only been wrong once or twice. So pretty cool. So we will be a good dad. A lot of people who were born, were you around?
Dino Music (05:26)
I believe it's a good thing. It's cool. But I should have skipped it. Like, within a few seconds, if you meet somebody, I can tell you a lot about it. I don't know how it all works. But it's just there. It's kind of been a normal thing. Have you been around a lot of people when you were born? Like, were you around people your whole life kind of thing? Really? That makes it even more interesting. Because where my mind goes, it's like, if you have that type of intuition,
Josh (05:46)
people your whole life kind of thing. No. Really? Yeah. That makes it even more interesting. It's like where my mind goes, it's like if you have that type of intuition, you know, you have to experience people often, you know, or just know all these little cues. And to your point, that is actually a real thing that, you know, through practice, you can be more intuitive of those things. But a lot of it is like, the little cues that you don't think about, that's how you can tell a lot about a person. And it's funny because they don't even know they're doing it.
Dino Music (05:54)
you know, you've had to experience people like often, you know, or just know all these little cues. And to your point, that is actually a real thing that, you know, through practice, you can be more intuitive of those things. But a lot of it is like the little cues that you don't think about, that's how you can tell a lot about a person. And it's funny because they don't even know they're doing it, but they're giving you exactly what they think or feel based on those cues, even though what they're saying might be different. But yeah, that's interesting, dude. That's fucking awesome. I made it up there for you. Mm, that explains it.
Josh (06:14)
but they're giving you exactly what they think or feel based on those views, even though what they're saying might be different. But yeah, that's interesting. I've been an observer my whole life. So like, even now, I've never been that, I have a personality of fun and being excited that I can be that guy, but my natural state, if I'm in a crowd, I'll just be quiet and I'll observe. You know? I love that. It's a way I've always been. And you learn, again, it's a skill, but also for me, it's more than that because it's so developed.
Dino Music (06:26)
than that, I have a personality of fun. I can be excited to be that guy. Yep. My natural state, like, I'm gonna crowd.
Dude, I love that. Dude, I love that. I think there's a true science to that too. Of being the guy who's silent in the room or person that's silent but pays attention. I mean dude, even leaders, like as a leader it's not just, oh you go in there and you talk all the time. You sit back and you actually pay more attention than you do talking. You know, there's a reason to that.
Josh (06:43)
But that's always where I've been just an observation mode
Dino Music (07:02)
right? Because then you get to see more things, you get to really observe and break it down, right? Where I think a lot of times we don't do that. That's interesting, bro. It makes total sense though. Makes total sense.
Josh (07:11)
Yeah. And as, and as a dad now and a husband, like it's created the skill set of like being able to go into a restaurant. Like when I go into a restaurant, like I don't have like an exact count, but I know how many people are in the room. I know where they're at. I know if they're like, I can pick up whether or not they're a threat or potential threat. Um, and obviously like most men experience as well, like I know where all the exits are. It's wild. And it's like always on the top of my mind is like, I, if shit were to go down right now, how would it play out and how like, what's the safest exit? Get my family out of here kind of thing. Yeah, it's weird. It's just like.
Dino Music (07:25)
Right.
Yep, it's crazy.
That's so interesting, man. I always thought that females were more intuitive to that type of thing because they're the protectors in a way of like, not protect, like we're obviously more protectors, but they always go for worst case scenarios. They try to think through everything. So that's interesting, dude.
Josh (07:39)
360 degree. I always thought that females were more intuitive to that type of thing because they're like protectors in a way of like, not protect, like we're obviously like more protectors, but like they always go for worst case scenarios. Like they try to think through everything. Yeah. So that's interesting. Yeah. I always look at life through a positive lens. I don't think worst case, but it's always there. Subconsciously it's there. Yeah. Makes sense. Wow. I love it. Yeah. I think it's a skill as a dad too. Like it just, like when you have kids, that just kicks in. It makes total sense. So I think it's you have to, right? Like, I mean it.
Dino Music (07:56)
Right, right, makes sense, makes sense. I love it, dude.
It makes total sense though. I think because you have to, right? Like, I mean, it's one of those things where it's like, when it's just you and you're working for you, like even if you have a wife, even if you have a significant other, there's a bigger meaning when it's your kid. Because that is you, that is you point two. And so I think it takes the meaning up higher and the responsibility up higher, that like naturally your mind goes to like, all right, what can I do? How do I protect them?
Josh (08:09)
it's one of those things where it's like when it's just you and you're working for you like even if you have a wife you can have a son or a daughter there's a bigger meaning when it's your kid because that is you that is you point to and so i think it takes the meaning of hire and the responsibility of hire that like naturally your mind goes like all right what can i do how do i protect them how do i make them better like how do i this is me how do i help me you know what i mean from the outer version of you so i think that's where like your point was your dad at
Dino Music (08:28)
How do I make them better? Like, how do I, this is me, how do I help me? You know what I mean? From the outer version of you. So I think that's where, like to your point, when you're a dad, you just see it raise even more. If you know before the podcast, obviously, Jay P is running out of time. So Jay P, I think you're up. So, Jay P, I think you're up.
Josh (08:38)
Yeah, 100%. JP and I would record a podcast, obviously JP, a friend of mine, and he's an ex-Navy SEAL. He recorded an episode where he was talking about a situation that happened in a restaurant with his family. His two daughters went to the bathroom and he heard them screaming. He got up to go and he literally, everything slowed down for him. He was walking, he saw a reflection of somebody walking behind him in the salad bar glass. He knew there was a car idling right outside the door.
Dino Music (08:44)
He recorded an episode where he was talking about a situation happening in a restaurant with his family. And his two daughters went to the bathroom and like heard them scream. So he got up the door and he literally like, everything just slowed down for him. He was walking, he saw a reflection of somebody walking behind him in the salad bar glass. He knew there was a car idling right outside his work. And he knew that like three minutes before his daughter went to the bathroom, there was a guy working on the switcher. He said, I'm going that direction as well, before he hit the street.
Josh (09:04)
And he knew that like three minutes before his daughter went to the bathroom, there was a guy wearing a blue sweatshirt that went that direction as well. Before he heard the scream. So he goes back there. There's a men's and women's door. They're both locked. He knocks on the door and asks his daughter, like, Hey, are you OK? No response. And then he's like counting down in his head, like three seconds, like he's getting ready to kick this door in. Well, the guy in the blue sweatshirt comes out and like of the men's room. And he's like.
Dino Music (09:15)
I would often ask my daughter, like, hey, are you OK? And that was fine. And then he's like, down and down his head, like, a few seconds, like, you get ready to take the bullet. Or the guy who was right there comes out, and like, of some energy, and he's like, it's like also emotion making when they're thinking of, like, putting the TV against the wall and putting the situation out. Or then right at the start, his daughter is like, hey, daddy. And like, here's ice cream, because other daughters are going to like him.
Josh (09:29)
It like also emotion making a decision of like putting this dude against a wall versus like playing the situation out. Well then right as this guy comes out, his daughter is like, Hey daddy. And like here they scream because like other daughter turned the light off, you know, but no response. So like this all played out, but his Navy SEAL training and his intuition, like it just like, that's the level I want to get to is like everything slows down and it's like freaking deal. You know, I mean, I don't know. I'm a tool for that.
Dino Music (09:44)
Yeah. Holy cow. So are you going to go in the Navy? Is that what you're telling me? Like, bro, you're going to go be a SEAL dog? Hey, bro, that's not true. You can do anything you say your mind to. But that's insane. Bro. Yeah. But the cool part, I think, is because when you know JP and when you know where he came from to see that in action. And one piece I want to take out of that is the slow it down.
Josh (09:59)
Yeah, it was such a cool story here.
Dino Music (10:11)
Dude, slow is smooth, smooth is fast. And I think no matter what situation, especially when it's life or death, you have to like calm everything down. You know, if everything's moving too fast, you're making the wrong decision. But I think that translates into life too. That is a very interesting story. Holy shit, I'd be scared.
Josh (10:19)
call him everything. No, if everything's moving too fast, you make the wrong decision. But I think that translates into life too. That is a very neat story. Yeah. The cool thing about it is he says too, like he's like the reflection of the dude following me was his son. So his son like picked up on it. Like dad's in, dad's in go mode and like I need to be in go mode too. So it's like a power of observation. You know, kids are always watching and they're going to catch more than you ever teach them. So, and obviously some of that might be genetic because, you know.
Dino Music (10:33)
No way.
That's crazy. 100% dude. Holy. Yeah, we'll go with that one too. Dude, that's actually interesting. Yeah. How about you share the message for us, please? Dude. All right. One thing I want to touch on, I kind of hit on this before we went into this. I've been thinking about.
Josh (10:47)
JP's a stud. Yeah, yeah, we'll go with that one too. See, I'm gonna have to text him and be like, hey, we talked about you on the podcast, can you distribute this horse? Yeah, I'll share this. Yeah, I'll share this, bro. All right, one thing I wanted to touch on, I can pass it on here, I believe, and run it to this. I've been thinking about, just from experiences, you know, just hanging out with people, talking to people, one thing I know that people do often is we judge people, right? Like we judge them based on what we think is right or wrong.
Dino Music (11:04)
Just from experiences, you know, like just hanging out with people, talking to people. One thing I noticed we do often is we judge people, right? Like we judge them based on what we think is right or wrong. And we're so quick to question someone or put someone down or if we disagree with something, or maybe it's not the life that we would live, we're automatically like putting a term or judging someone essentially for those things. And
Josh (11:16)
and we're so quick to question someone or put someone down or if we disagree with something or maybe it's not the life that we live, we're automatically putting a term or judging someone essentially for those things. And I've been thinking about that mentally and I think a lot of problems come from stuff like that. Right, whereas, you know, especially when we get into the topics of belief, visualizing the same life that you want, I think when you judge, you're actually telling the world that
Dino Music (11:32)
And I've been thinking about that, man, because I'm like, I think a lot of problems come from stuff like that, right? Where it's, you know, especially when we get into the topics of like belief, you know, visualizing, seeing the life that you want. I think when you judge, you're actually telling the world that you don't want to see yourself succeed, right? Because judgment is a form of like, essentially putting others down without telling them, but the world is yours, everything, right? So I've been thinking about this piece, because I'm like, dude, you know, one of the things I learned early on, and especially from my mom,
Josh (11:46)
you don't want to see yourself succeed, right? Because judgment is a form of like, say you put another down without telling them what the rules are, it's everything. Yeah. Right? So I've been thinking about this piece and I'm like, dude, you know, one of the things I learned early on, and especially from my mom, but as I got older it started to hurt more. But when I noticed I judged people, it actually impacted me more in a negative way than when I started to just accept it and just be like, oh, okay, that's...
Dino Music (12:01)
But as I got older, started to click more. But when I noticed I judged people, it actually impacted me more in a negative way than when I started to just accept it and just be like, oh, okay, that's, yeah, I don't know why, but I'm like, maybe there's a good reason. You know, and just saying maybe there's a good reason or like having a little bit more of a positive outlet helped me see things in a more positive light. And I think a lot of that played a role in who I am today, but I think a lot of the problems we face is we judge people just based off what we think is right or wrong.
Josh (12:14)
Yeah, I don't know why, but I'm like, maybe there's a good reason. You know, I'm just saying maybe there's a good reason or like having a little bit more of a positive outlet helps me see things in a more positive light. And I think a lot of that played a role into where I am today, but I think a lot of the problems we face is we judge people just based off of what we think is right or wrong. You know? I don't know if you've ever thought about that or like delved into that, but like, what are your thoughts about that?
Dino Music (12:31)
You know, I don't know if you've ever thought about that or like dove into that. But like, what are your thoughts about that? Like, no, I agree with you wholeheartedly. It's, I want to say it's like a fan-general, but I believe it's an academic insight and I think so can be replaced with being a little bit. We paint this picture based on a very small amount of information and we make it based on public space. So, I, a way to kind of fix that is you live a life of genuine curiosity.
Josh (12:36)
No, I agree wholeheartedly. Um, it's, I won't say it's like a pandemic, but I believe it's an epidemic in life. And I think social media plays a big role in that. Um, we, we paint this picture based on a very small amount of information and then we make a judgment based off of it. Right. So, um, I, a way to kind of fix that is to live a life of genuine curiosity, right. Instead of being like, well, what the hell, why did that guy do that? It's like, well, dude, why did he do that?
Dino Music (13:01)
Instead of like a lot of that guy. Correct. Yeah, curious. Yeah, yeah, thousand percent. To that point, I actually heard a really powerful speech the other day. It was talking about perspective as the Alex. And a lot of people, you said that on the show, but it kind of returned to the brain a little bit. Where it's like, ah, perspective as the Alex, but it's not really true. Because...
Josh (13:04)
Like I'm curious, right? So more curiosity, but to that point, I actually heard a really powerful speech the other day. It was talking about perspective is reality, right? And a lot of people, and we've even said that on the show, but I kind of reframed my brain a little bit, where it's like, all right, perspective is reality, but it's not really true, because we see our life from our own perspective, right? You see your life from your own perspective. I'll never have your perspective. But where this comes into play to your point is perception.
Right? So it's like, all right, your perception of me.
and my perception of you, the way to kind of get outside of your own perspective in life is to look at things from their perception. So you step outside yourself and almost see it from a third party. And it's like, instead of me judging you for what you're doing, it's like, all right, well, I'm judging you against my perspective of what I would do or what, how I would do it better versus like, all right, well, why did he do it this way? And I'm looking outside myself. It's like, all right, well, I'm going to look outside of this whole situation from a third party. Maybe he's doing it better than I could do it. And maybe that way is the right way. Right. That's something here that I have to consider on a daily.
Dino Music (13:42)
the
Josh (14:06)
basis working with other leaders on big projects, where it's like, no, my way is not necessarily the only way I have to think about it from their standpoint. So when you get out of that judgment, and it's just genuine curiosity, all right, well, you know, even to that point with Abby stepping in, it's like, well, why does her brain go one way and mine's the other? And then I think about it from an outside perspective, and it makes a difference.
Dino Music (14:23)
And I think with what you said too, it's like, you can't make a decision based on the information that you have, especially if it's this tiny, because it's going to be the wrong one. And, you know, with also looking at it from a third person point of view, I think you also have to step in that person's shoes, right. And look at it from their perspective, because I think that's where the real power is and also to your point too. It's like when you're talking about the different leaders that you might be working with, it's easy to assume or think that your view is right. But I think it's also important for it works both ways.
Josh (14:25)
you said to it's like you can't make a decision based on the information that you have especially if it's this tiny because it's going to be the wrong one. And you know with also looking at it from a third person point of view I think you also have to step in that person's shoes. Right and look at it from a therapist perspective. Because I think that's where the real power is. And also if you're a point of view it's like we're talking about different leaders that you might be working with.
it's easy to assume or think that your view is right, but I think it's also important for, it works both ways, right? Because that's how you come to the commonality of what is the right thing to do, what is the right action to take. And if you don't do that, you're missing out on a huge piece, right? It's like a, I know in school we used to do the diagrams, right, the three diagrams. Van diagrams, baby. Yep. But if you have only one circle and you're trying to make a decision that requires three, right, to come to the commonality,
Dino Music (14:53)
right? Because that's how you come to the commonality of what is the right thing to do. What is the right action to take? And if you don't do that, you're missing out on a huge piece, right? It's like a, I know in school we used to do the diagrams, right? The three diagrams and then the middle. Yeah, Venn diagram, right? But if you have only one circle and you're trying to make a decision that requires three, right? To come to the common out, you're always going to make the wrong one. So it's like, you got to almost look at it from, okay, my circle, their circle.
Josh (15:16)
make the wrong one. So it's like you gotta almost look at it from okay my circle, their circle, third person circle and then it's like what's the commonality? I think if you do that you'll find the answer that you're looking for at least the direction you go. But dude I agree with you I think social media plays a big role in it and I think if the world
Dino Music (15:21)
third person circle and then it's like, what's the commonality? And I think if you could do that, do you'll find the answer that you're looking for, or at least the direction you need to go. Um, but dude, I agree with you. I think social media plays a big role in it. And I think if the world would a hundred percent change and be different, if we all chose to step in other people's shoes and just try to see the world in their view, right? Like I think we solve a lot of problems that way.
Josh (15:35)
100% change and do different things from all I chose to step in other people's shoes and just try to see the world in their view. Right? I think we've solved a lot of problems that way. You know, and that's actually one thing I'm very thankful for that I picked up on early on because I've been around so many different cultures, so many different people, so many different types of things. Right? Like, you know, you hear those people back in the day when they're like, yeah, dude, I used to hang out with the drug dealers and the gangsters and also the nerds, right? But I think there's some value to that because you see all kinds of perspectives.
Dino Music (15:44)
You know, and that's actually one thing I'm very thankful for that I picked up on early, early on because I've been around so many different cultures, so many different people, so many different types of things. Right. Like, you know, you hear those people in back in the day where you're like, yeah, dude, I used to hang out with the drug dealers and the gangsters, but also the nerds. Right. But I think there's some value to that because you see all kinds of perspective. Right. Now, reality becomes real, more real from your view because you have those perspectives. So to your point, like perception is reality.
Josh (16:05)
Right now, reality becomes more real from your view because you have those perspectives. So to your point, perception is reality, not necessarily. It's your reality. Reality is based on a bunch of different factors. But again, if you have factors with different kinds of groups, different kinds of thinking, you get to kind of form the core belief or the core reality that we're living in. Yeah, I agree wholeheartedly. And I think that's a really positive message that we can even spin and direct right to a marriage.
Dino Music (16:14)
Not necessarily. It's your reality. But reality is based on a bunch of different factors. But again, if you have multiple factors with different kinds of groups, different kind of thinking, you get to kind of more of the core belief or the core reality that we're living in. I agree wholeheartedly. I think that's a very positive message. That we can even commit and practice great human rights awareness. Absolutely. So many people in this world, they are only fair about their perspective and their point of view and problem.
Josh (16:35)
Right? Because you know, so many people in this world, they like, they are only care about their perspective and their point of view in the problem or the discussion or the fight or whatever it is. And it's like, that's people ask all the time, like, why don't like, do you and Kim fight? No, we don't. Not a whole lot. Because like, it's easy for me to distract my ego and be like, no, I want to see it from your point of view. And then instead of me trying to push my point of view, it's like, let's look at what's what we actually know and what the facts are.
Dino Music (16:44)
And it's like, if you ask all the time, I don't like that. But if you and him fight, you don't. Not a whole lot, because it's easy for me to distract my ego and be like, no, I want to see it from your point of view. And then instead of me trying to push my point of view, it's like, let's look at what we actually know and what the facts are. What happens when you remove ego and you actually look at it from another perspective is, or their perception is an invasive collaboration. Because hey, I'm not against you. I'm with you. There's even been fights that get in my head. Hey, I'm on your team.
Josh (17:00)
You know, what happens when you remove your ego and you actually look at it from another perspective is or perception, their perception is it invites a collaboration. It's like, Hey, I'm not against you. I'm with you. And there's even been fights that Kim and I has like, Hey, I'm on your team. Like, I want to figure this out. Like, I'm not trying to make you look bad or feel bad. So that's something that you deal with on a consistent basis. Or even if you just deal with humans, like it's such a valuable point is like, Hey, remove judgment.
Dino Music (17:15)
I'm not trying to make people back to that. So that's something that you deal with on that consistent base. But even if you still think it's such a valuable point, look at Noble and Tent. This person is probably not doing this just because they're off, they're not thinking, I want to ruin Josh's life. They're just living their life with their limited scope. And sometimes it just takes you as the leader or the person controlling the situation to give them a better perspective than to step into theirs.
Josh (17:23)
look at noble intent of like, hey, like this, this person's probably not doing this to piss me off. They didn't wake up thinking, I'm going to ruin Josh's life today. Like they're just living their life, doing their own thing with their limited scope. And sometimes it just takes you as the leader or the person controlling the situation to give them a better perspective and to step into theirs. Especially with a marriage, but even without marriage, right? So people you work with, the people you're around, if you do that, you start to appreciate them more.
Dino Music (17:44)
you with a marriage, but like even without a marriage, right? So people you work with the people you're around, if you do that, dude, you start to appreciate them more and watch how closer you guys get and bond and watch how much they come become on your team, or like, they're part of your team now. Right? Oftentimes, it's like two people competing instead of like, hey, how do we get together, get on the same page and let's push forward. Right? And I think a lot of that is, again, our own ego.
Josh (17:51)
and watch how close you guys get on and watch how much they come on your team or like they're part of your team now. Oftentimes it's like two people competing instead of like, hey, how do we get together, get on the same page and let's push forward. And I think a lot of that is again, our own ego. And removing that ego opens up so many doors, regardless of if it's relationships, physical, mental, spiritual, whatever you're working towards, but it opens up all these doors. But it changes your life.
Dino Music (18:10)
and removing that ego opens up so many doors, regardless of if it's relationships, physical, mental, spiritual, whatever you're working towards, but it opens up all these doors. But it changes your life too. And I think it's kind of cool that we, we just started talking about this because I do believe that is also the process of becoming a better version of yourself. It's that you have to see the world in a different light and your light is not always the correct one.
Josh (18:22)
And I think it's kind of cool that we started talking about this because I believe that it's also the process of becoming a better version of yourself. 100%. It's that you have to see the world in a different light and no light is not a way to correct the wrong light. Yep. It's good. Man, there's so many different directions you can go with that. I agree. I want to throw out one thing here. I forget. I actually posted this. There was a Lex Breeden post and he put, I'll pull it up and we'll figure it out.
Dino Music (18:38)
I want to throw out one thing before I forget. I actually posted this. It was a Lex Friedman post and he put, I'll pull it up and maybe clip it. We'll figure it out. But he talks about how even evil people believe that they're doing right. And he's like, sometimes, you know, it's like, that's why we as people need to step out and see like, hey, are we the evil people that we think we're doing the right thing, but maybe we're not. And I know that's kind of crazy to say or think, but it's true.
Josh (18:48)
But he talks about how even evil people believe that they're doing right. And he's like sometimes, you know, it's like that's why we as people need to step up and see like, hey, are we the evil people that we think we're doing the right thing but maybe we're not?
And I know that's kind of crazy to say or think, but it's true. A lot of the people that do that shit, the evil people, they truly believe that they're doing something good. And that kind of makes you go, okay, hold on, I gotta, what am I doing wrong here? You know? Like, I gotta step out and really see my life, because I think it opens a lot more doors.
Dino Music (19:06)
A lot of the people that do bad shit, the evil people, they truly believe that they're doing something good. And that kind of makes you like, okay, hold on, let me, I gotta, what am I doing wrong here? You know, like I gotta step out and really see my life. Because I think if you do, it opens up a lot more doors. Where that takes my brain is on the global scale. Something I've been doing a lot over the last year. It's like, and this is an interesting perspective for you.
Josh (19:20)
Dude, where that takes my brain is on a global scale. Cause this is something that I've been thinking about a lot over the last year is like, and this is an interesting perspective for you cause you're not born in, you weren't born here in this country, but like my whole life, like, and even now, like to this day, like America is the best, America is awesome, America is the freedom fighters of the world. Well, over the last year, I've been questioning that a lot. And it's like, all right, we've been told our whole lives that China and Russia are the enemy.
Dino Music (19:34)
I have a light, even now, to this day, America is the best, America is awesome, America is the dream player to the world. But over the last year, I've been questioning that a lot. It's like, all right, we've been building our whole life in China, in Russia, in Vienna. Yep.
Josh (19:46)
Over the last year of my own research and looking into it myself, Russia is not the enemy. Russia is the scapegoat for a lot of stuff because they don't buy into the superpowers of that B and they do their own thing. Right. And like
Dino Music (19:46)
over the last year my own research and looking into myself, Russia's not the answer it's a scapegoat for a lot of stuff because they don't buy into it they do their own thing, right? they tell the truth a lot, there's a lot of stuff to get squashed so it makes me question everything and you look at all the different things that are coming out and you're never going to see it again America is exactly the child of the world of what we do and how we build things
Josh (19:57)
They tell the truth a lot. Like there's a lot of stuff that's getting squashed. So it makes me question everything. And then you look at all the different things that have been coming out and you're never gonna see it in the mainstream media. But America isn't exactly the poster child of the world and what we do and how we go in and do things. So to that point, it's like, if it's on a global scale, how much more so on like just a day to day, the things that you believe in, the things that you've been told, you gotta start questioning stuff. You gotta start doing your own research, thinking for yourself. And I think that I was-
Dino Music (20:11)
So to that point, it's like, it's on a global scale. How much more so when I get to pay to pay for the group and people ask their questions about it? Dude. They're doing it on YouTube. And I think that's how we solve that problem is us. It's the you version, right? Because to your point, if that's happening on a global scale, bro, how many people is that affecting? And how much of us has it affected? And.
Josh (20:26)
It's us, it's the you version. Because to your point, if that's happening on a global scale, we're old.
How many people is that affecting me? How much of us has it affected me? And if we don't take control ourselves, it will never change. And I know it seems impossible when you look at it from a global scale. But if you can change yourself, you can change your family, you can change your family, you can change your town, your country, your whatever, it grows but it starts with you. So dude, that's a... yeah man, it's an interesting view because I'll be honest, as long as I've lived here, I love this place. It's allowed me to have the opportunities that I have.
Dino Music (20:37)
If we don't take control ourselves, like it'll never change. You know, and I know it seems impossible when you look at it from a global scale, but if you can change yourself, you can change your family. If you can change your family, you can change your town, your country, your whatever, and it grows, but it starts with you, you know? So dude, that's a, yeah, man. Uh, it's an interesting view because I'll be honest, even as long as I've lived here, I love this place, right? It's, uh, it's allowed me to have the opportunities that I have. It's allowed my family to have the opportunities that we have.
Josh (21:02)
on my family that have the options that we have.
Dino Music (21:05)
But I've always questioned a lot of those things. It was funny, I had a conversation with my dad and he was telling me about like 911 conspiracies and shit. And I was like, dad, dude, I've studied this since I was like 14. I was like, dog, you're a little late to the game. But dude, I've always just had the questioning just because of what I grew up in. And it was tough because it's like, if I met you 20 years ago and had this conversation, me and you might've not gotten along. You know what I mean? Just because we had those two types of opposing views. But.
Josh (21:08)
and
Dino Music (21:33)
I think that happens more often than we could imagine. So like I'm grateful to have the type of view that you have now. Now it wasn't to this extent, like I don't know all the stuff I know now back then, but there was always those question abilities of like, I don't know, man, that kind of seems off. You know what I mean? But yeah, dude, it's a very interesting thing. Very interesting thing.
Josh (21:35)
So like I'm grateful to have the type of new that you have now. Now it wasn't to this extent. Like I don't know all the stuff like no now. But there was always those question abilities of like, oh man, that kind of thing is off. You know what I mean? But yeah, it's a very interesting thing. I saw a meme last night made me laugh. It took me a second, but it made me laugh. It was a time traveler travels back in time to September 1st, 2001.
And he ends up talking to George Bush and he says, hey, did the 9-11 attacks happen yet? And George Bush says, no, not yet.
Dino Music (22:03)
Okay.
Josh (22:10)
Oh, that's funny. I laughed. That is a good one. I actually shared it a couple of times. Oh, really? I haven't seen that because I've known it the whole time. So I haven't been looking for confirmation. Yeah. Did you see the thing where like the BBC broadcast like talked about building seven coming down like two hours before it actually came down and like actually aired footage of it? Yeah.
Dino Music (22:12)
what I did. Fun fact FBI did come out and say they did mess that up and it was their fault just saying you know yeah that's it. That's my point we all knew it we all know we just don't wanna
Josh (22:32)
Yeah. And like they, people are like, oh, it was a time delay. I'm like, no, like there was people that actually like went into it and looked at like, no, like they had the footage of building seven coming down before it was like a possible thing. Yeah. It's a whole, it's crazy. I think we just changed your podcast name to the impossible. Yeah. The truth. We need some of that X-Files music. All right. Let's dive into this. I don't want to scare everybody off. Cause I know not everybody is ready for the conspiracy discussion, but today guys, we are going to be diving in and talking about belief.
Dino Music (22:36)
and well now
I think we just changed our podcast name to the process of becoming and uncovering the fucking conspiracy But do that is insane all right, let's go
Josh (23:01)
Right? Belief is one of those things that we felt like would be a great topic because, um, it's one of those things that ebbs and flows through the journey. Right? So just starting out the discussion on belief is understanding that belief is one of those things very similar to the process of becoming that you're always going to be in the process of building. You're going to have days of high belief days of low belief. Um, but really this, the punchline is that you got to discontinue executing when beliefs higher beliefs low. Um, it's, it's like a muscle, you know, the more you flex on it, the more you understand and live it intentionally and intentionally understand how it works.
Dino Music (23:13)
the
So, yeah. It's like a muscle. So, yeah. You've got to have more understanding of the ability to essentially and essentially understand how it works. Mostly you'll be able to ask the question and even more so you'll have that because you care. Dude, I love that you said it is a muscle because it really is. And it's something you have to train. And where my mind goes, and I think this is the best place to start, is where does that even belief come from? Because, you know, it's not like we don't believe anything our whole lives, right? And then now we're like, oh, how do we start believing, right? We're...
Josh (23:31)
the more belief you'll be able to have harness and even more so you'll have that consistent momentum to carry on when belief is low.
Dino Music (23:53)
We are at this point right now when we do have beliefs that we have, regardless of if they're right, wrong, maybe on the dark side, maybe not on the dark side, maybe more positive, whatever it is, but we still have beliefs. And I think a good place to start with this whole process is where do our beliefs come from? Right? Because I think a lot of us just assume that what we have now is exactly the truth in who we are. Right? But you guys got to remember and it's, and I say you guys got to remember, but all of us got to remember.
Josh (23:53)
We are at this point right now and we do have beliefs. You know, we have. Regardless of the right, wrong, maybe on the dark side, maybe now on the dark side, maybe whatever it is, but we still have beliefs. And I think a good place to start with this whole process is where do our beliefs come from, right? Because I think a lot of us just assume that what we have now is exactly the truth in who we are. Right, but you guys gotta remember, and I say you guys gotta remember, but all of us gotta remember that a lot of the beliefs we have now have been built.
Dino Music (24:19)
that a lot of the beliefs we have now have been built, trained through our experiences through our life. Right. And also with this too, and this is what makes it hard to switch out of is, you know, Rome wasn't built in a day and neither was your thought patterns. Neither was your belief systems. When we say belief systems, it's, you know, how where's your brain go and how are you believing and what are you believing in and how'd you get there? But I think the whole purpose of where you kind of have to start is how did you get to the belief you have now?
Josh (24:23)
through our experience and through our life. Right? And also with this too, and this is what makes it harder to push out of, is, you know, Rome wasn't built in a day.
and you hear what your thought pattern is, you hear what your belief system is. So when we say belief system, it's where's your brain going, how are you believing in, and what are you believing in, and how would you get there? But I think the whole purpose of where you got at the start is how did you get to the beliefs you have now? Looking back at it, right? Like, hey, I believe this, but who else in my life has made me talk with this or showed me this? And then now you record that, what can you like, well, do they have the life that I want? Where are they at now? And...
Dino Music (24:47)
You know, and looking back at it, right? Like, Hey, I believe this, but who else in my life has maybe taught me this or showed me this? And then now you reference that person. You're like, well, do they have the life that I want? Where are they at now? And now you start to really put those, your belief system to who kind of started it off for you and look at, Hey, does this match to what I want to be or who I want to be? And does this make sense? And I think that's where you really have to kind of start is like, where did your belief system start? You know, um, Josh, for you, when it comes to.
Josh (25:01)
How do you start to really put those your belief system to who kind of started it off with and look at, hey, does this match to what I want to be or who I want to be and does this make sense? And I think that's where you really have to kind of start. It's like, where did your beliefs start? Josh, for you, when it comes to looking back and seeing that place of the places that you learned those systems or those beliefs, what would you say to someone or a tip or how do you kind of start breaking that mold?
Dino Music (25:17)
looking back and seeing, you know, that place of, the places that you've learned those systems or those beliefs, what would you say to someone or a tip or how do you kind of start breaking that mold? You know, like obviously I said, look back and see where that started, but is there anything else that you would add to that?
Josh (25:28)
Like obviously I said, look back and see where that started, but is there anything else that you would add to that? I think that it's really important that if you want to break the mold is to identify what molded you in the first place. Right. And then really look at it from the, you kind of made the point of like, is that what you want to be? And understanding that you don't have to be that way. You know, you see it all the time in the world with, you know, people that may have grown up in inner city and they're pretty isolated. They're around like the same thinkers or the same thought patterns.
Dino Music (25:40)
at it from the point of like is that what you want to be and understanding that you don't have to do that. You know, that world with people that may have grown up in the inner city and they're pretty isolated, they're around the same
and then they leave there and they become very successful. You can see a lot of times with that. Absolutely. It's because they've been exposed to other beliefs and then they just make a back-up decision of like, oh shit, they have a choice to continue believing that or have a choice to open up their mind and have that growth mindset. Like no, this is new. Absolutely. This is better. I'm gonna go this route. I don't need to teach that. Just give my friends hope that that's true. And again, just come down and think of it for yourself. A little bit of what we talked about was like the whole global situation. Yep. The learning how to think,
Josh (25:56)
And then they leave there and they become very successful. And you see a lot of times with athletes, um, it's because they've been exposed to other beliefs and then they just make a conscious decision of like, Oh shit, I have a choice to continue believing that. Or I have a choice to open up my mind and be have that growth mindset. I was like, no, like this is, this is new and I like this better. I want to go this route. Like, I don't need to believe that just because my parents told me that was true. You know, and again, it just comes down to thinking for yourself a little bit of what we talked about with like the whole global situation, um, but learning how to think, not.
what to think, you know, and unfortunately, we talk about the public education system all the time. It was intentionally set up that way, right? So lots of documentation for it. So it's the reason why, you know, if you are listening to this podcast, like we give you a lot of credit because you are trying to learn how to think better. And again, I'll never, you know, I said this the day I go to the grave, a personal development piece is so important because you get to see other people's perspectives, and you get to have your mind exposed to other people's beliefs. And then you get to make a decision. It's like, all right, well,
Dino Music (26:26)
Correct. I like that. I like that. You talked about some public cases. Mm-mm. It was just set up that way. 100%. It's the reason why, you know, regardless of the podcast, you get a lot of credit because you are trying to learn how to think better.
Yeah, I'll never, you know, that is the day I go to the great, my personal development is so important because you get to get together people with that vision. You get to have your mind exposed to other people's views and then you get to make decisions. Like, I know, well, that's awesome. I want that to my own, you know, so for me, going back in retrospective and thinking about it, like, I believe this is a bit of a honor, or that, like, hey, you just get to really sit in and see what the future has in front of you. I didn't have a whole lot of positive views because of the way I was brought up, but where I started to re-expose those things was when I was 14.
Josh (26:54)
That's awesome. I want to I want that for my own life. You know, so for me, going back and retrospectively thinking about it's like my belief systems early on, where that like, hey, you just get wasted and you beat the living shit out your family all the time, right? Like, I didn't have a whole lot of positive beliefs because the way I was brought up, but where it started to be exposed to those things was playing sports. Because I was naturally really athletic. And it was like, okay, well, my coaches are telling me that I'm awesome. And then I go home and I'm getting told I'm a piece of shit.
But like I choose to believe that I'm awesome. Like I want to live that, I want to do that more. So that caused me to go out and excel in sports more and to practice more and to put more into it, which only led to my belief, right? So it's a very important piece there is there's action involved. And I think it also broke the mold of what you thought was right. Yeah. Right. And another thing you said too, it's like there's also those athletes that are very successful or not necessarily maybe the most successful, but they end up going backwards and ruining the opportunity they have because they were still stuck a little bit.
Dino Music (27:32)
And I think it also broke the mold of what you thought was right. Right. And another thing you said too, it's like, dude, there's also those athletes that are very successful or not necessarily maybe the most successful.
but they end up going backwards and ruining the opportunity they had because they were still stuck a little bit in that past mindset. It's like they had the opportunity, worked hard for it. They had some moments where they isolated from that group, but because they continue to believe a lot of the same things that were taught early on, they end up going back into it and all of a sudden their life is ruined. Now they're getting fined. Now they're going to jail. Now something bad is happening. Now they're back to the bottom and they were once at the top and it's like, what happened? Well they...
Josh (27:49)
mindset right it's like they had the opportunity to work hard where they had some moments where they isolated from that group but because they continued to believe a lot of the same things they were taught or beyond the end of going back into it and all of a sudden they're like the truant now they're getting fined now they're going to jail now something bad is happening now they're you know back to the bottom and they were once at the top and it's like what happened well they got away from the big systems but got back into them yeah right and i think your point is it's you have to
Dino Music (28:11)
They got away from the belief systems, but got back into them. Right. And I think to your point, it's, you have to be able to see all these different sides of those things. Right. Because again, you know, what we just touched on is, is changing your beliefs or what you think helps open your mind to a new, new realm, new possibility, new, new person that you can become, you know, and, and I think that's a big piece of it, man. Um, you know, one thing I even recommend doing is, you know, writing all those stuff down, right? It's like, Hey, what are my beliefs?
Josh (28:17)
be able to see all these different sides of those things. Right, because again, what we just touched on is it's changing your beliefs of what you think helps open your mind to a new round, a new possibility, new person that you can contact. Yeah. And I think that's a big piece of it, man. You know, one thing I would even recommend doing is writing all those stuff down. Right, it's like, hey, what are my beliefs? Yeah. You know, and go journal and pull. It's like, all right, what do I believe? What do I believe about relationships? What do I believe about life? What do I believe about money? What do I believe about...
Dino Music (28:40)
you know, and go journal through them. It's like, all right, what do I believe? What do I believe about relationships? What do I believe about life? What do I believe about money? What do I believe about sports? What do I, whatever it is, you know, when you really start picking it apart. Because when it's there, now you can question those things. You know, a lot of us try to work through a lot of shit in our mind, but then we don't really get anywhere because it's too much and then we stop and then all of a sudden, two weeks later, you're like, damn, I was thinking about that and I stopped, I don't know what happened. So I highly recommend like writing that stuff down because it's clear, you know, and then you can start challenging those things.
Josh (28:48)
sports or whatever it is, you know, when you really start taking it apart. Because when it's there, now you can question those things. You know, a lot of us try to work through a lot of shit in our mind, but then we don't go to get anywhere too much, and then we stop, and then all of a sudden, two weeks later, you're like, I don't think about that, and I stop, I don't know what happened. So I highly recommend like writing that stuff down because it's clear. You know, and then you can start challenging those things. And dude, that's what I did too. Because early on, and I've talked about this wherever...
Dino Music (29:10)
And dude, that's what I did too. Because early on, and I've talked about this wherever, I really started to take soccer serious because that is where a lot of my belief in life kind of started to change. But I started writing all that stuff down and started questioning things that were normal to me. Like, hey, why I don't think I'm good enough to do this? Or hey, why I don't try as hard in this even though I know I'm capable? And it's just like all these questions started to come about and I'm like, none of my thoughts actually make
Josh (29:15)
I really started to take soccer seriously because that is where a lot of my belief in life kind of started to change. But I started writing all that stuff down and started questioning things that were normal to me. Like, hey, why I don't think I'm good enough to do this? Or hey, why I don't try as hard as this even though I know I'm capable? And it's just like all these questions started to come about and I'm like, none of my thoughts actually make any fucking sense to what I want.
Dino Music (29:39)
any fucking sense to what I want. You know what I mean? But again, it's all just built on the ceilings that we have from the past. So yeah, man, it's a it's an interesting thing. But I think there's a lot of a lot of value to this piece, because I think it's like the glue that holds everything together, you know, because it's like, yes, I do believe actions come before the belief. But if you keep taking actions and actions and actions, but then you never really try to believe or look for a way to believe in something more, you kind of stay stuck there, you know,
Josh (29:41)
you know what I mean? But again, it's all built on the feelings that we have from the past. So, yeah, it's an interesting thing, but I think there's a lot of value to this piece because I think it's like the glue that holds everything together. You know, because it's like, yes, I do believe the actions come before the belief. But if you keep taking actions and actions and actions, but then you never really try to believe or look for a way to believe in something more, you kinda stay stuck there, you know? And I don't know what your thoughts are about that.
Dino Music (30:08)
And I don't know what your thoughts are about that, but I do think that you have to start practicing certain things to start really seeing that life. But then you also have to train that belief because again, belief is that centerfold in my opinion. Yeah. I think that a couple of things I want to say on that is the whole idea of you probably
Josh (30:10)
But I do think that you have to start practicing certain things to start really seeing that life. But you also have to train that belief because again, belief is that center point in my opinion. Yeah. And I think the couple of things I want to say on that is the whole idea of you talking about journaling and writing it down. That is so important, guys, because your mind, you have to understand it has a tactical advantage over you. Right. And I'm sitting here in the library looking at the book of the guy who said that, David Goggins. But it's true. Your mind knows exactly. It's weird. When you think about it, you get really introspective on it.
Dino Music (30:37)
If you think about it, you get really introspective. Your mind knows exactly what is going through your back. Your mind knows. If you're trying to say something in your mind, it's like, no, you better, your mind knows. And now you want to go back to your mind. It's really not a weird thing. It's wild, right? So that's why I bring you to time. So I'm going to visualize it. But at that point, your mind really goes into it. And if you were raised in it, more or less indoctrinated, you need something.
Josh (30:40)
your mind knows exactly what is going to bring you back to comfort and your mind controls it. So it's like, if you're trying to say something in your mind of like, no, I want to be better. Your mind knows that now like you, you want to go back to comfort. It's a really magical, weird thing. Yeah, it's wild, right? So that's why training your subconscious is so important and visualizing the whole, the whole process. But to that point, it's like, your mind's always going to bring you back to that. And it's like, if you were raised in more or less indoctrinated to believe something, it's going to take some time to get away from that. You have to understand that. And it's going to be very intentional.
Dino Music (31:05)
It's going to take some time. You have to understand that. It's going to be a very thin, long, moving direction. So your point about access and taking action. So yeah, action comes before it goes into a lot of work.
Josh (31:09)
I'm not, I want to move in this direction. So to your point about actions and taking actions, like, yes, action comes before belief, but why? Right. Because usually it's the action that spurs, like the thought process of, okay, like I'm capable of more, which is the spark of the belief. But then also you're kind of forced in that process to come to a realization. Like, Hey, if I want to go and continue doing this, I got to change the way that I've been talking to myself. I got to change my viewpoint on my past experiences, you know, and just to tie that to a fitness journey, we see it all the time.
Dino Music (31:36)
you know, and this is the side of the industry that you see all the time. People say, I can't do this, okay, so my parents are fat. And then we see them break through that hole, they look under the ground, and they break their picture on the street. Right, I found that amazing. Yeah, every one of my family smoked. I was a non-smoker for such a long time, I started smoking at only eight. And then it's at that realization, but I'm not just a non-smoker, right? And I guess the biggest thing you save yourself is health, and peace. They're all alive. So you have to change the story that you're telling. You weren't born in the poverty and the destine
Josh (31:39)
Like people would say, I can't do this. I'm big bone. My parents are fat. And then we see them break through that mold and they lose hundreds of pounds and they completely break generational curses. Right? I've done it with me. Like every one of my family smoked. I was a non-smoker for such a long time. I started smoking at a late age. And then just had that realization of like, dude, what am I doing? Right? And like the things that you say to yourself, the self-talk, the beliefs, they're all aligned. So you have to change the story that you're telling yourself.
You weren't born into poverty and destined for poverty. Your future does not have to equal your past. So like, what are you saying to yourself? And what are you, like, what's dictating those beliefs that you have? Because the words you say to yourself and your thought processes play a really big role in it. I like that. I think we undervalued the conversations we have with ourselves, right? I think you hear this all the time, right? At least I've heard this all the time. But it's like, when you talk to yourself the same way you talk to your best friend, the answer is no, you're doing something wrong.
Dino Music (32:06)
your future does not happen with your past. So what are you saying to yourself? And what are you, like, what's dictating those things like that? Because the words, say to yourself, and the thought process, is like a beautiful thing. Boom. I like that, because I think we undervalue the conversations we have with ourselves. Right? Because I, and you hear this all the time, or at least I've heard this all the time. But it's like, would you talk to yourself the same way you would talk to your best friend? And if the answer is no, you're doing something wrong. Because you
Josh (32:34)
because you should not be talking to yourself in a way where you're putting yourself down. Right? Your parents, I think, becomes even more clear. Right? Because if I'm like, hey, John, the way you talk to yourself negatively, would you talk to your kid that way? You're like, hell no. So why are you talking to yourself that way? Yeah. Right? Because again, dude, that subconscious is so powerful. And would you let anybody else talk to you that way? Thousand percent. If it's a no, then why are you doing it to yourself? Yeah. And it's kind of crazy because it's...
Dino Music (32:36)
putting yourself down, right? Hey, with parents, I think this comes even more clear, right? Because if I'm like, Hey, Josh, the way you talk to yourself negatively, would you talk to your kids that way? And you're like, hell no. So why are you talking to yourself that way? Right? Because again, dude, that subconscious is so powerful. Thousand percent. If it's a no, then why are you doing it to yourself? And it's kind of crazy because it's, it's like, we're our own best friend and our worst enemy at the same time.
Josh (33:01)
It's like we're our own best friend and our worst enemy at the same time. And we can choose which one we are. Yeah. But I think to your point with talking and self-talk, it's such a big piece because the more you talk to yourself in a positive way, you have maybe these affirmations that you're telling yourself, you start building this tap of your brain where it's so much easier to walk down and then subconsciously that's, that positive thought becomes a first thought and not a negative thought. Yeah. Right. I, there's this example, but it's how the brain works, right? Like.
Dino Music (33:05)
And we could choose which one we are. But I think to your point with talking and self-talk, it's such a big piece because the more you talk to yourself in a positive way, you have maybe these affirmations that you're telling yourself, you start building this path in your brain where it's so much easier to walk down. And then subconsciously that's that positive thought becomes the first thought and not the negative thought. Right. I, there's this example, um, but it's how the brain works, right? Like.
neurologically, if we do something so many times and do it repetitively, it becomes engraved. Okay. And the best analogy that I've heard of this is like, Hey, you see this big tall grass field, right? And the grass is like six feet tall. Okay. So the first time I walk through it, I need a machete and I'm cutting through, I'm trying to make this path. And it's tough, right? Okay. Second time, it's a little bit clearer. I still need it to kind of cut some branches, whatever.
Josh (33:31)
Neurologically, if you do something so many times and do it repetitively, it becomes a grade. Okay? And the best analogy that I've heard of this is like, you see this big tall grass field, right? And the grass is like six feet tall. Okay? So the first time I walked through it, I need a machete and I'm cutting through, I'm trying to make this fat. And it's tough, right? Okay, second time, it's a little bit clearer, I still need it to kind of cut some branches or whatever. 50th time, okay, well now the grass is already planted.
Dino Music (33:56)
50th time, okay, well now the grass is already kind of implanted. So it's a lot easier. I don't need my machete anymore. I don't need to cut down all these trees. I don't need to move all this stuff. It's, it's easier to walk by right now. The hundredth time I'm laying down stones. Okay. So now I'm making the path even easier to walk through. It's not as tough anymore by the day 200, 300, 400. I have a whole entire walkway that's six feet wide. I, it's a clear path to clear road, easy to walk down. That's how our brain works.
Josh (33:59)
implanted so it's a lot easier I don't need my machete anymore I don't need to cut down all these trees I don't need to move all this stuff it's easier to walk by right now the hundredth ground I'm laying down stones okay so now I'm making the path even easier to walk through it's not as tough anymore by the day 200 300 or 400 I have a whole entire walkway that's six feet wide it's a clear path clear road easy to walk down that's how our brain works so when you're negatively talking to yourself what you're doing is you're building that type of path in the negative ground
Dino Music (34:24)
So when you're negatively talking to yourself, what you're doing is you're building that type of path in the negative realm. But it also works in the positive, right? Like when you look at someone who's very successful or people who do well in life and you think about their thoughts and how they operate, it's like, what is the difference? It's positive. But why is it more positive? It's because they've walked down that path thousands and thousands and thousands of times, just like Rome wasn't built in a day. Neither was your mindset. Right. And it takes practice to do.
Josh (34:30)
But it also works in the positive, right? Like when you look at someone who's very successful or people who do well in life and think about their thoughts and how they operate, it's like, what is the difference? It's positive. But why is it more positive? It's because they've walked down that path thousands and thousands and thousands of times. Just like Rome wasn't built in that day, you go with your mindset, right? And it takes practice to do. And to that point, we talk about it all the time, two most important days of your life or the day you're born or the day you figure out why.
Really cool thing is when you pave a path like that, you now inspire other people to walk down that path, right? Which is really cool. This is interesting. I wasn't planning on bringing this up to the next podcast that we recorded, but I'll bring it on now because it fits perfectly in this conversation. Listening to a Tony Robbins audio book and he was telling a story about his friend named Jerry Coffee. Jerry Coffee was a pilot in Vietnam and he and two other men were shot down, right? They were held captive in Vietnam for seven years.
Dino Music (35:01)
I'm not sure if you can hear me. Thousand percent.
Josh (35:25)
They were in a cage that was about as wide as your body and it was six feet long so that you could lay down and sleep at night. So seven years they were in captivity and he made the decision very quickly after like the initial shock of being caught. He made the decision that he was gonna turn this into a positive experience. He started talking to God and he started communicating with himself in a very positive way and looking at it as an opportunity and a blessing. So every single day he would do push-up sit-ups and he's barely being fed. He is getting beaten for literally seven years.
Dino Music (35:46)
So every single day he would push up to the notes and he's barely being said. He gets these literally set pieces. And when he ended up getting out of there, he looked back on it and he said, I would not bring that up if I could do a thousand times those out of the way. And he ended up going on with a very, very positive life. Okay, second guy, kind of committed suicide and he got to the end of his first year of time. Third guy, got out, he got rescued, and he was in the hospital. Okay, so how did he do?
Josh (35:52)
And when he ended up getting out of there, he looked back on it. He said, I would not trade that if I could do it a thousand times over, I would do it all again. And he ended up going on to lead a very, very positive life. Okay. Second guy ended up committing suicide in captivity after a certain period of time, third guy got out, he got rescued and he was, he's in an insane asylum to this day because of how they communicated with themselves. So like in that audio, um, Tony Robbins paints the picture of like, if you want to change your life, the only thing you gotta change is how you communicate yourself, everything else will follow it.
It's the most important thing. So like when it comes through the beliefs guys, you have to understand that like, he could have easily believed that, Hey, this is the worst thing that's ever happened and I'm probably going to die. Right. Every day. It was probably a subconscious thought, but guess what? He retrained his subconscious to see it as a positive and he made it out and lived a successful life afterwards and was able to tell that story to inspire other people and to help people. Wow. Yeah. So it's all on how you communicate with yourself and that, that is, it comes purely down to, Hey, I'm either going to choose to believe this or I'm going to choose to believe this.
Dino Music (36:40)
damn 100% that's insane dude wow holy cow
Isn't it crazy that the power that we have as humans? Man, it's, I always questioned why we just don't figure it out. And I say, I question it, but I know, right? It's the ego, man. It takes over. We like comfort. But if you really think about it, man, if you spent 20 to 30 minutes, even just like dedicated time talking to yourself in a nice way, it's better than not doing it at all, it'll change your life. If you just dedicate some time to.
Josh (36:52)
Isn't it crazy? The power that we have. Yeah, it's amazing. Man, it's, I always, don't figure it out. I stay that way, but I know, right? It's a key building. It takes over, you have to help. But if you really think about it, man, if you spent 20 to 30 minutes, even just like dedicate time, talking to yourself in a nice way, it's better than not doing it at all. It'll change your life if you just dedicate some time to.
Dino Music (37:21)
to talk to yourself in a way that you would talk to someone else who you're trying to see when or be successful or do something good. But it tells you how much power we have and hold that we don't even see that we have in whole. And a lot of the times, man, we're looking for external things to be our savior, right? Like to your point of Jeffrey Coffey, he didn't look for external ways. He knew he was like, Hey, man, I'm in this thing. Okay. Like I'm stuck here. What can I do? How can I take control?
Josh (37:21)
to talk to yourself in a way that you would talk to someone else who you're trying to see when or be successful or do something good. But it tells you how much power we have and hold that we don't even see that we have at all. And a lot of the times, man, we're looking for external things to be our savior, right? Like to your point with Jeffrey Coffman, he didn't look for external ways. He knew. He was like, hey man, I'm in this thing, okay? Like I'm stuck here. What can I do? How can I take control?
Dino Music (37:50)
And it's like, dude, if you ask anybody, hey man, would you ever want to go back and live seven years in basically a cell where it just fits your body and you're able to just lay down enough? They'd be like, hell no, not a chance. I wouldn't even do it for a year. And the fact that this guy would go back and do it all over again a thousand times and to see where he's come out of is mind blowing. But it tells you the power that we have as humans. And dude, this is the whole point of why we're doing this. And by no means have we made it. By no means have we got to this destination. Guess what? We never will.
Josh (37:50)
And it's like dude, if you ask anybody, hey man, would you ever wanna go back and live seven years in basically a cell where it just fits your body and you're able to just lay down and all. And you're like, hell no, not a chance. I wouldn't even do it for a year. And the fact that this guy would go back and do it all over again in a thousand years and to see where he's come out of is mind blowing. But it tells you the power that we have as students. And dude, this is the whole point of why we're doing this. You know, and by no means have we made it. By no means have we got to this destination. Guess what? We never will.
Dino Music (38:19)
We're going to keep going and that's the whole point of this is we're on the journey just like everybody else.
Josh (38:19)
We're going to keep going. And that's the whole point of this is we're on the journey. Just like, are you saying that we're in the process of becoming so good movie. Hey, man. All right. So who, if you could pick any actor to play you in that movie, who would it be? For me, it's Jeremy Renner. Cause people say we look the same.
Dino Music (38:27)
I would say we are in the process of becoming. It's funny dude, just don't jab it out there. It's gonna be a movie one day. One day, we're gonna have a movie about our lives. I'm putting it out there right now. I want you guys to start pre-ordering it, write shit down, it's gonna happen. I can't give you a time frame, but it's happened.
Oh, this is a good one. Really? Okay. So when I think about who looks like me, I don't quite know. Okay. But there's, there's a couple of people. Okay. Depending on the type of vibe we want to put out with the movie, I'm going with Ryan Reynolds, okay, or John Cena. I know, I know, bro. I know. Come on, dude. I know. And that's why I would. So would you not want them to be in our movie? You know what I mean? That's what I'm saying. Okay. My second option is John Cena.
Josh (38:50)
Yeah. Okay. So when I think about it, it looks like I don't quite know. Okay. But there's, there's couple of people, okay. Depending on the type of vibe you want to go with, with Ryan Reynolds. Okay. Did you just compare yourself to Ryan Reynolds? He's every man's man crush. I mean, that's, that's pretty true. I can see it. Yeah. I mean, I would love it. Yeah. Okay. My second option is John C.
Yeah. I mean, you look just like him. It's mostly the shoulders and the biceps. I love it. Um, and then the third person, it's going to be your eyeball. Jackie Chan, Jackie Chan. You can't have Jackie Chan play. You're not Asian. Yeah, man. That's racist.
Dino Music (39:15)
I mean that come on dude. Thanks. Okay, I'll take that Yeah, oh you think so? I'm Jack dude. Yeah 250 pounds. Yeah, I wish um, maybe I don't I don't know And then the third person this is gonna be oddball out Jackie Chan Jackie Chan, bro. I'm serious, dude That's does it doesn't matter dude, listen, I'll just start taping my eyes a little bit what okay, maybe not
Josh (39:44)
That's funny. All right. So we kind of, we kind of went through like, all right, like all the different things that affect belief and belief systems. Let's get into how we increase belief. And I want to start this off. And, um, probably about a month and a half ago, I learned the proper way to do affirmations. So I want to walk through this because what you said, there's two things that you said early on, primarily, they both led into like, um, this self-deprecating discussion and thoughts about yourself or words that you said yourself.
Dino Music (39:45)
Um, but yes, Jack Chan.
get in the house and I want to start this off.
probably about a month and a half ago, I learned the proper way to do affirmations. Don't go off through this, because what you said, there's two things that you said earlier on, primarily they both led into like, this self-deprecating discussion and thought about yourself or where to take yourself. So, number one thing that you can do to kind of get over that is something that I give as a practice tool to a lot of people.
Josh (40:13)
So number one thing that you can do to kind of get over that, this is something that I give as like a practical tool to a lot of people that I mentor is if you have all these self-deprecating thoughts, get into the habit of doing a mind dump journal, right? Whenever you're emotional or whatever it's going on in your life, just mind dump, like whatever words, it doesn't even have to be sentences, just write the words. And you know, a lot of the times these people come back, it's like, Hey, like I was writing all these bad things. I'm like, okay, well, how did you feel when you wrote the things that like you're writing about how you feel about yourself?
Dino Music (40:19)
that I mentor is you have all these self-defining thoughts, get into the habit of doing mind-definition. Whenever you're emotional or whatever is going on, you're like, just mind-definition. Whatever words, is that even an extension? Just write the words. And a lot of times when people come back, it's like, hey, I was writing up a bad thing. I'm like, okay, well, how did you do when you wrote the things that you're writing about? How did you do it by yourself? They're like, oh, well, I started looking at it, and it's like, you'll start from me to you'll need it. Right? You get to say, I'm writing this, and he says, okay, we'll now try to read it out loud.
Josh (40:40)
They're like, Oh, well, you know, I started looking at it. And it's like, it was hard for me to believe it. Right. Because like I'm writing this and it's like, okay, well, now try to read it out loud. And when you try to read these things that you're writing down about yourself, if you can even write it, cause I went through that process, I couldn't even write these things about myself. Cause I'm like, dude, as you're writing it, I'm like, it's not true. It's not who I am. Right. And that's the whole idea of the exercise. So the second one is the affirmations, how to actually train your brain. And I've said it on the podcast before about how
Dino Music (40:50)
you're writing down about yourself, if you can just write it, because I went through that process, I pretty much write it myself. Actually writing it, I'm like, I guess I'm true, I'm not who I am. I asked the whole idea to answer that. So the second one is the affirmation. I would actually train you on things. And I said on the podcast before about how I'm against affirmations because of how most of mainstream media or mainstream people talk about it. So a new way to kind of discuss how to do affirmations, and this comes from the book
Josh (41:06)
I'm against affirmations because of how most of mainstream media or mainstream world talks about it. So a new way to kind of discuss, um, how to do affirmations. And this comes from the book, the miracle morning. Okay. TJ taught this to me and it's been a game changer. So it's a three step process with affirmations. The first one is going to be the what, right? So whatever it is that you're, you're wanting to do it's I'm committed to blank. No matter what, there is no other option, right? So I'm committed to, you know, becoming the best leader I could possibly be no matter what, there is no other option.
Dino Music (41:20)
So the three-step process of affirmation. The first one is gonna be the block. So whatever it is that you're wanting to do, I'm committed to blank. No matter what, there is no other option. So I'm committed to becoming the best and I can possibly be, no matter what, there is no other option. Second piece is the block. I am committed to becoming the best leader because blank fills the blanks.
Josh (41:36)
Second piece is the why I am committed to becoming the best leader because blank you fill in the blanks, right? Then the third part was really important to how right? This is the action stuff to ensure that I am committed to this action. I am blank and you list out the actions. And that's something that write that down one time and then read that every single day. Right. And then we can go down the Tesla route of the three, six nine, but, uh, read that at least one time every day. I've been doing that on my drive in, in the morning, just reciting that.
Dino Music (41:42)
right? And the third part was really important to how to get yourself to ensure that I'm committed to this. Actually, I am black, you are South, yeah, something that write that down one time and then do that every single day. Yeah, one time.
Really what it's done to me is it's focused on things in the day. I know I'm not committed to doing that. I can easily go through this thing over here because it's on my plate. But no, I'm committed to it. I'm going to take care of this for a few days. So just another way to do affirmation is that comes from a book from New York. I think that's a really good breakdown. And it's funny because I've actually listened to a podcast. I haven't read that book yet, but I've listened to a podcast from the guy, the author of it. And it was, I forgot who he was talking to, but it was such a beautiful, it might have been Ed Milett actually.
Josh (42:02)
And really what it's done for me is it refocuses me on things during the day. I'm like, no, like I'm committed to doing this. I could easily go do this thing over here because it's on my plate, but no, like I'm committed to this. I'm going to take care of this first. Right. So there's another way to do affirmations that comes from the book, the miracle morning. I think that's a really good point. Yeah. And I've actually, I haven't read that book, but I listened to a podcast from the guy at the office. Um, and it was, I forgot who he was talking to. Um, but it was, it was such a beautiful, it might have been in my life actually.
Dino Music (42:32)
Um, but there's a.
Josh (42:34)
Um, but there's, Hey, call me. He want to go on the podcast and say, you're going to have to wait. Yeah. I'm like, Hey, not yet, bro. I'll pencil you in. I have my people call your people. Yeah. You're my people. Um, but no, I think there's no more power to that. Because again, like I've been talking about walking that path and it's like, if you can make it as clear as possible, it helps a little bit. No one. If you look at the book.
Dino Music (42:37)
Yeah, did you tell? Yeah, yeah, I figured. I figured you're like, yeah, bro, let me I'll let you know when I'm ready. Who are your people, bro? Is that me? Am I for people? I'm like, dude, why is that my life texting me right now? You know? But no, dude, I think there's so much power to that. Because again, like when we talk about walking that path, and it's like, if you can make it as clear as possible, it helps solidify it too. You know, and even if you look at the book of like the law of attraction, it talks about that.
Josh (43:02)
law of attraction. It talks about that. Now it doesn't go down into the what, how, and why. But what it talks about is when you're going into affirmations or ten things, they act with you. You can't be like, I am a millionaire. I am this right now. I'm the best. I am the process of becoming this. Or hey, I am working towards becoming this. And just that little shift of words, it's like subconsciously your brain knows what's true and what's not. And it's like you can
Dino Music (43:04)
Now it doesn't go down into the what, how and the why, but what it talks about is when you're going into affirmations or saying these things, they have to be real. Right? You can't be like, I am a millionaire or I'm, I am this right now. It's like, I'm the best. Like, no, I am the process of becoming this or, Hey, I am working towards becoming this. And just that little shift of words. It's like subconsciously your brain knows what's true and what's not. Right. And it's like, if you can again, shift the way you put those words down or write those affirmations, it can.
clear up so many things and make it more believable and true and going after it. Right now with one thing that I want to kind of recommend doing is, you know, and we've talked about meditation, visualization and all these things, but when you take something like affirmations, write it down every day or read it over every day and commit to that. Right? Like don't look seven, eight years down the line, just focus on that day, but how you start to take control of it. And by the way, when you do start taking control of it, there's never a moment where you wake up and it's just good. It's there.
Josh (43:32)
clear up so many things and make it more believable and true and go after it. Right? Now, there's one thing that I want to, I would recommend doing is, John, we've talked about dedication, visualization and all these things, but when you take something like affirmations, write it down every day or read it over every day and commit to that. Right? I don't want the seven, eight years not in line, just books on that day, but how you start to take control of it, and by the way, when you do start taking control of it, there's never a moment where you wake up and it's just good. It's there.
Dino Music (44:01)
There's never going to be a moment where you practice something well enough and all of a sudden it's like, haha, I got it. I'm a master. It never happens, right? If you don't train it, you lose it. It's like a muscle. So the more you can do it, the longer you can do it, the better it will get. Right. The little reference of the 30, 60, 90 kind of thing. But I think if you can start that and if you can give yourself a whole year and you can dedicate, now I'm not saying you got to be perfect and win every day, but when 50% more or when 50% of those days are shit. If you can win 60, 70 or 80, you're going to get a better result.
Josh (44:01)
There's never going to be a moment where you practice something well enough and all of a sudden it's like, haha, I got it! I'm a master! It never happens, right? If you don't train it, it's like a muscle. So the more you can do it, the longer you can do it, the better it will get, right? A little reference of the 3069 kind of thing, but I think if you can start that and you can be yourself a whole year, and you can dedicate. I'm not saying you gotta be perfect at winning every day, but win 50% more, or win 50% of those days, or shit, if you can win 60, 70, 80, you're going to get a better result.
Dino Music (44:31)
But if you can commit to a year and even just do that alone, like not adding in meditation, visualization, which I highly recommend doing too, right. And reading and doing all these different things, but just that alone, watch how your life changes. Because again, when you get into now energy and all these different things, if you're constantly referencing that type of affirmation and you're constantly focusing on it, your mind starts to open. And all of a sudden you start to see these opportunities, these doors that were always there. You just never saw that they were there.
Josh (44:31)
But if you can commit to a period, and even if it was a good adipome, like not adding in the meditation or visualization, which is how I recommend you to, right? Reading and doing all these different things, but just that alone, watch how your life changes. Because again, when you get into now energy and all these different things, if you're constantly referencing that type of affirmation, and you're constantly focusing on it, your mind starts to open and all of a sudden you start to see these opportunities, these doors that were always there, you just never thought that they were there.
Dino Music (44:59)
And so I think it's important to like what you're saying, dude, it's, you got to stay committed to doing it. It sounds fun and great. It's not going to be easy. And it might not be easy for two weeks, three weeks, four weeks. It's going to be a challenge, but the more that you do it, the better you get. Right. For you, it's easier to hop in those things because guess what? You've been doing this for how many years now, right? Like, so it's, it's a lot easier for you to catch onto those things. Just like when you're an athlete, it's a lot easier to go pick up that football again and throw it, it might be rusty, but you still have a lot of that muscle memory.
Josh (44:59)
And so I think it's important to like what you're saying, dude, is you've got to stay committed to doing it. It sounds fun and great. It's not gonna be easy. And it might not be easy for two weeks, three weeks, four weeks. It's gonna be a challenge, but the more that you do it, the better you get. Right, for you, it's easier to hop in those things because guess what, you've been doing this for how many years now? Yeah, right, so it's a lot easier for you to catch on to those things. Just like when you're an athlete, it's a lot easier to go pick up that football again and throw it.
It might be rusty, but you still have a lot of that muscle memory. So because you've done the work, I think for you, that's why you see that impact a little bit faster. So I just want to set that home for people when, when you're going in and starting journaling and starting these affirmations, no, it's not going to be fast. It doesn't happen quick and don't compare yourself to other people too, because it's different, right? Then where you're at with the thought process, where you're at with your life, it takes time. So I just want to say, give it time with this. Right. And guess what?
Dino Music (45:26)
So because you've done the work, I think for you, that's why you see that impact a little bit faster. So I just want to set that tone for people when you're going in and starting journaling and starting these affirmations, know, it's not going to be fast. It doesn't happen quick and don't compare yourself to other people too, because it's different, right? And where you're at with your thought process, where you're at with your life, it takes time. So how I just want to say give it time with this, right? And guess what in seven, six, eight weeks, watch how things start to shift.
Josh (45:55)
seven, six, eight weeks, watch how things start to shift. Seven, six, eight, you know, seven, six, eight, nine, thirteen, eleven. Let's see a birth certificate. You're like that, you're like that kid in the lovely word sees it's got a beard. You're like, all right, let's see this birth certificate real quick. Well, now that point, it's a really solid point, right? And just to paint a picture of why I can step into these things is because I have the belief that.
Dino Music (45:57)
7 6 8 7 6 8 damn that's a listen bro. I'm foreign. Okay numbers don't make sense to me All right, I say I'm 29 dude. I don't even know if I'm 29 anymore now you're questioning my beliefs, bro And I'm struggling right now I'm 13
Josh (46:21)
in the past when I've added something positive that was different that I thought, I didn't believe it at the point, but I thought, hey, this is going to make a difference. And then in hindsight, looking back and having the belief that, hey, it did make a difference. Right? So again, it's changing the story that you share yourself and it's looking at your past experiences and it's giving a new meaning to them or like having the faith really like, hey, I'm going to change this. And it's something I put on my Instagram quite often is like, if you want to change your life, you have to change what you do on a daily basis, something. It doesn't have to be your whole day.
But if you want to change your life, you need to change something on a day to day basis, otherwise nothing is going to change. Right? So do this and then understand like, okay, I'm going to step out and I'm going to start journaling and hope that it works. And guess what? It might take you six, nine, eight weeks, whatever you just said to understand and look back and have that hindsight of like, all right, which is the point we made multiple podcasts ago of auditing. It's like, all right, well, what has changed? What is changing? Okay. Well, my outlook is better, more positive. There's more like more things flowing to me.
Dino Music (47:19)
more positive, more things flow in the same way. So it's a combination of those things, but the belief isn't gonna be there. It's gotta offer a place, knowing that hey, it's too positive, trust me dude, they're telling me to do this and then looking back and doing it. Thousand percent. There's an example, I was actually self reflecting a little bit on just life yesterday. And there's a dude, like a friend of mine, and I kinda forgot what kinda big of a impact he had on me on the start of this journey,
Josh (47:19)
Right? So it's, it's a combination of all these things, but the belief isn't going to be there in the beginning. You just got to operate on faith knowing that, Hey, this is positive. I trust these dudes are telling me to do this. And then looking back and seeing the belief in action. There's an example I was actually self reflecting a little bit on just like yesterday and there's a, there's a dude, like a friend of mine. And I kind of forgot what kind of big impact you had on me on the start of this journey, but you know, to your point, whenever I first started.
Dino Music (47:45)
you know, to your point, whenever I first started just trying to get out of this belief that I had and just starting to see what is possible in life, right? And what I can do and what I can achieve and that I can have these how this house, this car, you know, this life. And, you know, it was it was a struggle at first because it felt different, right? It was challenging a lot of the things that I thought before. But along with that, too, it was so new that I kind of felt crazy doing it or weird, right? And within a month or two of doing it.
Josh (47:48)
just trying to get out of this belief that I had and just starting to see what is possible in life, right? And what I can do, what I can achieve, that I can have detail in this house, this car, you know, this life. And you know, it was a struggle at first because it felt different, right? It was challenging a lot of the things that I thought before, but along with that too, it was so new that I kind of felt crazy doing it or weird, right? And within a month or two of doing it, so one thing I used to do was I'll go to my gym at my college.
Dino Music (48:14)
So one thing I used to do was I'll go to my gym at my college, right? Where like our basketball court and I would do a lot of my soccer stuff there. And I would always see this guy who played on the basketball team. He's a friend of mine right now. His name is Josh Johnson. Awesome, dude. It is, it is a pretty solid name. I'm pretty, I had a feeling you would like it, which is also ironic that your name is Josh, but just hear me out with this. Okay. So I remember I started this journey. I started journaling. I started doing, you know, meditation.
Josh (48:18)
right where like our basketball court and I would do a lot of my soccer stuff there and I would always see this guy and play on the back. He's a friend of mine right now. His name is Josh Johnson. It's a solid name. It is a good solid name. Which is also ironic that you're here with me. So I remember I started this journey. I started journaling. I started doing you know meditation you know writing down my goals because I don't know if you guys remember but
Dino Music (48:42)
you know, writing down my goals. Cause I don't know if you guys remember, but, uh, whenever I got that athlete mindset book, right, it was around that time where things started to pick up. So I started practicing and, uh, there was one day me and him just like, you can, there was a mutual respect that you, but we never had a conversation yet because I would be in there at 6 AM, 7 AM, 5 AM, come in early, multiple times training and every single time I was there, he was there every single time. 5 AM. And I would see him do his drills, work his ass off and then go over
Josh (48:46)
Whenever I got that after mindset book, right? It was around that time where things started to pick up. So I started practicing and there was one day me and him just like, there's a mutual respect that you, but we never had a conversation yet because I would be in there at 6 a.m., 7 a.m., 5 a.m. coming early multiple times training and every single time I was there, he was there. Every single time. 5 a.m. and I would see him do his drills, work his ass off and then go over, just go book and write stuff down and I was just like, interesting. I was like.
Dino Music (49:11)
his notebook and write stuff down and I was just like, interesting. I was like, I don't know why but I'm like, I'm like there's something here. I was like, so I just one day I'm like, Hey bro, like what's up dog, you know, like saying, you know, and we had a small conversation. And within that small conversation, dude, everything that I was doing, he was doing. And that was the first time in my life where I was like, Holy shit, dude, I'm not, I'm not alone in this. You know, this is, it's interesting that this moment
Josh (49:15)
I don't know why, but I'm like, I'm like, there's something here. I was like, so I just pulled down like, hey bro, like what's up dog? You know, like saying, we had a small conversation. And within that small conversation, dude, everything that I was doing, he was doing. And that was the first time in my life where I was like, holy shit, dude, I'm not, I'm not alone in this. You know, this is, it's interesting that this moment happened at this time because it removed the creepiness for me. And I felt like there's someone out there who's doing it from a different view.
Dino Music (49:38)
at this time because it removes the craziness piece for me. And I felt I was like there's someone out there who's doing it from a different view. I was like, Whoa, I was like, is this a sign? Is this something? I'm not too sure. Fast forward to now, me and him have had conversations about meditation, all this stuff you and I have been talking about, like, when it was still fresh in my mind, I started talking to him about it. And he was already thinking those things too. And that was the first conversation I had with a person that was into self development at that age, same age as me.
Josh (49:45)
I was like, whoa, I was like, is this a sign? Is this something? I'm not too sure. Back forward to now, me and him, that conversation about meditation, all this stuff you and I have been talking about, when it was still fresh in my mind, I started talking to him about it and he was already thinking those things too. And that was the first conversation I had with a person that was into self-development at that age, same age as me, in a different sport, and it was just kind of mind-blowing. And I know it doesn't seem like a big deal. It's a huge deal. But to me it is, right? Because it confirmed a lot.
Dino Music (50:06)
in a different sport and it was just kind of mind blowing. And I know it doesn't seem like a big deal, but to me it is, right? Because it confirmed a lot for me. But now fast forward, it's like I'm still close with him. You know, he's still going out chasing his dream and I love it. And dude, he's been along that journey and he played a pivotal role for me at that time to keep me going. But you know, and it could be a sign that your name is Josh too, right? Like, I don't know. But I go back to that because again, just from trying and doing these things, even just that small piece kept me going.
Josh (50:14)
But now fast forward, because I'm still close with it. I'm still going out chasing a dream, and I love it. And dude, you've been along that journey, and you played a pivotal role for me at that time to keep me going. But you know, it could be a sign that your name is washed too. Right, like I don't know. But I go back to that, because again, just from trying and doing things, even just that small piece kept me going. And the reason I bring that up, those small pieces will happen in your life. You just gotta be aware and self-aware of those things.
Dino Music (50:36)
And the reason I bring that up is because those small pieces will happen in your life. You just got to be aware and self aware of those things because he was there the whole time. I wasn't aware because I wasn't doing those things. The door wasn't open. Right. And I know that's kind of a different example, but that could work in any other way too. It doesn't have to be just meeting a specific person. It could mean coming across a book. It can mean listening, watching a movie and seeing something like there's all these different pieces that can help validate what we're doing, if that makes sense. You know,
Josh (50:43)
because he was there the whole time. I wasn't aware because I wasn't doing those things. The door wasn't open. Right, and I know that's kind of a different example, but that can work in any other way too. It doesn't have to be just meeting a specific person. It could mean coming across a book. It could mean listening to watching a movie and seeing stuff like, there's all these different pieces that can help validate what we're doing, if that makes sense. Yeah. So I just wanted to hear that because, he played a big role in combining the thoughts and the direction I was going with my life. You know what I mean?
Dino Music (51:04)
So yeah, I just wanted to share that because, you know, he played a big role in confirming the thoughts and the direction I was going with my life. You know what I mean? Yep. For sure.
Josh (51:13)
Dude, it's energy attracts energy. And even thinking about that, like I can see that in my own life. You're like the people that you spend the most like that I am naturally gravitate towards are the people that understand all this. Like not that I dislike other people here at work that don't get it. It's just that it's different. Like we're literally we're on a different wavelength. You know, it's like I appreciate your respect to you. But like me and you have these amazing conversations for a reason.
Dino Music (51:34)
I'm not sure if you have these amazing conversations. For sure. And it's like, you didn't just one day, you're like, hey, let's have these amazing conversations about energy and crazy shit. It just started happening. Dude, and I don't even remember how. Like, I really don't. Because it was like, I wish I could go backwards and look at it now, you know, dude, because it's funny, I've had so many people when I bring up this podcast, they're like, dude, I didn't even know you and Josh were that close. I was like, really? I was like, dude, that's like one of my best friends, dude. I was like, you didn't know that? But again, it's because
Josh (51:38)
You know what I mean? And it's like, we didn't just one day be like, Hey, let's have these amazing conversations about energy and crazy shit. It just started happening. Yeah. I don't either. Cause it was like, I wish I could go look at it now. Yeah. No, you can say 20. I've had so many people when I bring up the podcast, they're like, dude, I didn't even know you and Josh for that. Oh, I was like, really? That's one of my best friends. I was like, you didn't know that? But again, it's because even though we have
Dino Music (52:05)
Even though we have quick conversations or don't spend hours and hours talking, we cover so much information and talk about crazy shit like this in the short amount of time, but it was like, it was a build up. You know what I mean? But to your point, it's energy attracts energy and what you put out is what you get back. And it's kind of crazy that this is where we're at in this life.
Josh (52:06)
conversations or don't spend hours and hours on hours talking. We cover so much information to talk about crazy shit like this in a short amount of time. But it was like, it was a build-up. You know what I mean? But to your point, it's energy attracts energy and what you put out is what you get back. And it's kind of crazy that this is where we're at in this life. And I think it's funny too, because I'm trying to think back to like the initial spark too. And I can't recall it. But one thing I can tell you with 100% certainty that you and I have never had small talk.
Dino Music (52:29)
I can't, I can't tell you. But one thing I can tell you is that I can see this from when I never had to. Never? That's actually so true, bro. We've never been like, oh, I see it. That's so true. I love this weather. Like, it's always been like, it's good. That's a mind blowing thing because you and I have had conversations for like two minutes and it's not, it's never been something like, oh, hey man, how's everything? Like it's, oh, it's like, dude, I saw this thing. And dude, you gotta, always, you gotta check this out. You gotta check this out. So I gotta check this out.
Josh (52:35)
Never. Like never. Yeah. We've never been like, Oh, how's your day? How about this weather? Like it's always been like just real discussion. That's a mind blowing thing. Yeah. It's never. Yeah. I got this thing on TikTok.
Dino Music (52:58)
Dude, okay, so I've been listening to this pastor and I'm like, all right, here we go. Let's go. Dude, that's wild. Yeah, especially when you got the algorithm of you, dude. You have an insane algorithm.
Josh (53:01)
Oh man. I've been like with this whole TikTok man. I'm like, I'm I'll buy it. Like, what do we got to do? Let's get some investors. Cause I, there's so much value in truth on there. Yeah. I'm telling you. Yeah. It's funny. I was talking to TJ about that. He just downloaded and he's like, dude, how do you get your algorithm? I'm like, let me, let me tell you a grasshopper. I don't even know how it works, man. It's all energy. Just attracted it to me. It is.
Dino Music (53:18)
with let me show you the way and you it's true algorithm is energy right uh...
Josh (53:25)
Guys, I want to kind of throw something in here as a litmus test for belief, right? So you might be listening to this and you might be like, oh, hey, I have a high level of belief. But the litmus test is, and you can kind of throw in on this too, because it's very basic. What I'm going to say is do you have a positive outlook or a negative outlook? You know, because if you have a negative outlook, you're always going to be telling yourself why you can't. And that belief immediately follows that. It's again, it's energy. You're now vibrating at a low energy. You are going to attract things to you and that only tanks your belief from a low energy standpoint.
Dino Music (53:45)
and that's what he's immediately followed by. So yeah, the energy is now by the low energy is going to attract things to you and that only changes from the low energy to the high energy. Whereas it's obviously having a higher expectation, right? What if this goes for the low energy? Your beliefs don't imagine the public.
Josh (53:54)
Whereas thinking positively of having a higher expectation or hey, what if this does work out? Your belief is automatically gonna follow that you agree
Dino Music (54:01)
Absolutely. And I think you also hit on something where, cause we talk about positive and negative all the time, but we never reference what that means. Right. And I think whenever you're sitting with your own thoughts and you're trying to figure out whether it's positive or negative, I think it's easy to tell yourself you're not negative and you're being real or like, nah, man, I'm just being realistic, you know? And I think that's also a problem because when you do that,
Josh (54:23)
What you're telling yourself is you really believe that you can't have these things and this is not possible, but guess what? It never happened. But again, the worst part is we don't see that negative. We think we're trying to be real. Dude, I want to go so deep on that. What is real? Now, that's an even greater question. What's real? Whatever we believe is real. Kind of. I was reading about a paradox yesterday, and I forget what it was called because I just dove into it.
Dino Music (54:23)
What you're telling yourself is you really believe that you cannot have these things or this is not possible. So guess what? It never happens. But again, the worst part is we don't see that as negative. We think we're trying to be real, you know?
Now that's an even greater question. Whatever we believe is real. Kind of, right? Because.
Josh (54:48)
But it's talking about like, there's actually no physical way for us to know that anything outside of us actually even exists. Now this is Howard three, do you get, I'm like, bro, do you know, are you even real? How do I know that you exist? Tell me, tell me, you're my best friend. Tell me how I know.
Dino Music (54:56)
Now this is how our small talk goes, just so you guys know. This is literally it. This is like, I go to your desk and two minutes in, this is what we're talking about. You know, like you. You.
But it's so fucking good though, man, because it's a good point. It's like, what is real? But that's also the beauty of it.
Josh (55:17)
Well, what's real to me is totally different for you. You're right. You know what I mean? For the most part, absolutely. Because again, it goes back to what we talked about a few weeks ago. I don't even think we talked about this in the podcast. But for me, I know, like, all right, when I leave here, I got to go to soccer practice. I got to go to volleyball. I got this. I got this. I got this. Right? I could paint a picture in my mind of what you're going to go do, but how do I even know you exist when we're not together? That's a really good point. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, you have no idea. This is only the beginning. Yeah, like I know the real Dino. No, I don't. You could be leaving here and...
Dino Music (55:20)
You're right. For the most part, absolutely.
That's a really good point or even yeah, you don't have no idea this is the only thing you see this is only real
Josh (55:46)
going and committing mass crimes somewhere like Batman or saving, saving lives. You know what I'm saying? But that's again, it's a perception and perspective. Like we paint this picture of people and these things and these situations in life. But how do we even freaking know? You don't. You don't. You literally get to create whatever you want. That's the moral of the story. You can create it, right? Like I can create a story for your life and who you are and
Dino Music (55:50)
I can't tell you I can't confirm this or not okay I'm not gonna confirm anything
Dude, you don't. But that's also why I think we make a lot of the wrong decisions.
you are energetically, you know, you guys are. For sure. But the whole idea is like I can create this for you, right? You know, it's going to lead you to the other things, but how do I actually do that? You don't. Right? So, again, think that into your own life. It's like, all right, well, this, and this could happen, but how do I know that? Mm-hmm.
Josh (56:14)
energetically, we know who each other are. But the whole idea is like, I can create this story of, all right, Dino's going to leave here, he's going to do these things. But how do I actually know that? Right? So again, paint that into your own life. It's like, all right, well, this, and this could happen. Well, how do I know that? Right? I'm going to go create whatever I want. Because if I can create the story of your life, what you leave here, I can create anything. You know what I'm saying? I want to switch that, dude. I want to follow up with this. But it's also how you can remove expectations. Yeah. Because with social media, we just teach people where...
Dino Music (56:28)
I'm going to go lose whatever I want. But I can create the story to realize it. That's right. I can create it. That was percent. I want to switch that to not switch it. Like, I want to follow up with this. But it's also how you can remove expectations. Because with social media, when you see these people who are 25, 27, 28, younger, millionaires, successful, you're like, oh, they must have grinded 24 hours a day. That's what we think. That we're painting that story. But how accurate is it? It's not always that accurate.
Josh (56:42)
25, 27, 28, you know, dungard millionaires. That's what we like. Oh, he must have grinded 24 hours a day. That's what we think. Yeah, paying the story. That we're paying that story. But how active is it? It's not always that active. But you know what other stories we never talk about though? Is the story that would help us confirm more of our own beliefs in the way of like a positive route. Right? So it's like, when we look at these people who are playing five and we're like, oh, 29, I can't do what he does. What about the guy who's started the enterprise?
Dino Music (56:56)
But you know what other story we never talk about though, is the story that would help us confirm more of our own beliefs in the way of like a positive route, right? So that's like, when we look at these people are 25 and we're like, ah, I'm 29, I can't do what he does, but what about the guy who was 40 when he started enterprise, you know, what about that guy who started a business at 55?
Josh (57:12)
You know, what about that guy who started the business at 55? KFC was started when you were 75. We don't talk about that. We never talk about that. But that's the problem with our reality. It's we go into what we see, but then we kind of fill in the gaps ourselves. And guess what? Those gaps aren't always right. Yeah. Most of the time they're not. Yeah. But to your point, it's like, we don't know those things, but then we like try to make, uh, make it real. We try to make it like, oh, this is reality. But you, this is also what happens.
Dino Music (57:18)
We don't talk about that though. We never talk about that. But that's problem with our reality. We go into what we see and then we kind of fill in the gaps ourselves and guess what, those gaps aren't always right. Most of the time they're not. But to your point, it's like, we don't know those things but then we like try to make it real. We try to make it like, oh, this is reality. But dude, this is also what happens with a lot of people and why a lot of people struggle to communicate with other people is because they have this perception
Josh (57:41)
with a lot of people and why a lot of people struggle to communicate with other people is because they have this perception of like, oh, Josh hates me. Why? Well, he didn't say hi to me. I'm like, bro, what? So what if he has to go on at home? What if he just got told with a word about it and he's hired? What if he's focused on this project yet? But it's like, we go to the thing that we just like, this is it. This is it. There's no other option. Bro, how? Yeah. It's that story that spins in your own mind.
Dino Music (57:48)
Oh, Josh hates me. Why? Well, he didn't say hi to me this morning. I'm like, bro, what you so what if, what if you actually going on at home? What if he just got done with the workout and he's tired? What if he's focused on this project yet? But it's like we go to the thing that we just like, this is it. This is it. There's no other option. It's what, bro, how?
Josh (58:09)
Happened the other day here, I was super like distressed at work, had a lot of stuff to do. Wasn't upset, wasn't angry. I was in a positive mindset, but I was just in go mode. Like I'm, I'm a grinder, right? So I got into go mode and I wasn't my super positive, fun self with Nick, who sits behind me, handsome Nick, for those of you that know him, sits behind me. And he's like, he came up midday. He's like, dude, are you mad at me? I'm like, no, he's like, you barely talked to me today. You know what I mean? I'm like, nah, dude, I'm just freaking grinding over here. And like to him, you know, and I do have a resting bitch face when I work. I have to confirm that.
Dino Music (58:32)
And to him, you know, and I do have a message that I'm trying to deliver from that. I just get focused. Yeah. But again, it's important to understand that.
Josh (58:36)
But I just get focused, you know? But again, it's the importance of understanding that like your presence can literally dictate the energy of other people. So to that point, something I wanna throw in there is, like we've all been around these people that, you know, we look out to as like a super positive person or a good influence. And really a lot of what dictates that is their presence in your life and how they speak into your life and how they interact when they're with you, right? So if you wanna be that person that pours belief in other people, just interact positively with people. Tell them that you're proud of them.
Dino Music (58:41)
your presence can literally dictate the energy of other people. On your percent. So at that point, something I want to throw in there is that you've all been around these people that you look out to as a super positive person or a good influence. And really a lot of what they take is their presence and how they speak it into life and how they interact with it. Sounds perfect. So if you want to be that person that works with other people that interact positively, tell them they have asked them to encourage you to write small talk doesn't exist.
Josh (59:06)
Ask them encouraging things right small talk doesn't exist for me if I get into a small talk conversation with you I'm like, dude, what are the positive things going on in your life? What kind of goals are you working towards? Not like hey, oh, yeah, it's beautiful out there today. Like yeah, I know I was out there too, you know
Dino Music (59:14)
100% Dude same Yeah, it's like what value does this add to me like I rather sit there and do to your point I think this is also something that's so beneficial to life is when you can sit there and it's like dude Even if I meet you in the first five minutes, like I want to know what your goals are why you're doing what you're doing How'd you get there? It's like bro. How'd you figure that out?
Josh (59:35)
Yeah. How come you figured that out? Yeah. You know, like I remember dude, we went to a rock wedding in Arizona and I met some of the stars and like my first thing, the guys were calling me about how they do rock and all this stuff. I'm like over here like, dude, what do you guys do now? Like what is your life like now? How many kids do you have? How'd you get there? You know what I mean? Like how's it like? How do babies have it? Yeah, yeah. I'm very interested in rock and all that stuff. I'm like, oh, I'm interested in rock and all that stuff. This is a fun place. Oh geez. But dude, it's like going deeper, right? But.
Dino Music (59:37)
You know, like I remember, dude, we went to Rob's wedding in Arizona and I met some of his friends and like my first thing, like as you're telling me about how they knew Rob and all this stuff, I'm like over here, like, dude, what do you guys do now? Like, what is your life like now? Like how many kids you have? How'd you, how'd you get there? You know what I mean? Like, how's it like? Yeah, yeah, that was, I'm very interested. I still haven't figured that out, you know, but eventually we'll get there. Google is a fun place. I'll figure it out. But dude, it's like you're going deeper, right? But I think to your point, too, it's also that you have to be
Josh (1:00:04)
I think to your point too, it's also that you have to be, for others, what you wish you would, or what others would do for you. Right, and that's how you have to operate. For me, that's a big piece that keeps me going, because I know what I wish I would have. I know what I wish I would have. So I try to be that for other people. And because of doing that, I don't do it for myself. And I think because I don't do it for myself, it allows me to see the value I give to others, but that is also what fills my cup. And when I do that, naturally I can see the value.
Dino Music (1:00:07)
for others what you wish you would or what others would be for you, right? And that's how you have to operate. Like for me, that's a big piece that keeps me going because I know what I wish I would have had. I know what I wish I would have. So I try to be that for other people. And because of doing that, I don't do it for myself. And I think because I don't do it for myself, it allows me to see the value I give to others, but that is also what fills my cup. And when I do that, naturally, I just see these pieces start to fall in line.
Josh (1:00:33)
pieces start to fall in line and everything works out. That's where my mind goes. But it goes because I know I'm doing the right, excuse me. Yeah, boss. Thank you. But I know I'm doing the right things. Right, so, and again, I think it goes back and forth. But I think you have to look at it from that view, just kind of like your perception. It's like you gotta put yourself in their shoes. We've also gotta be the person that you wish you would be. Yeah. Or you wish you were a hat. Yeah. Right, so, I think that puts a big role in that too.
Dino Music (1:00:35)
and everything works out. Like that's where my mind goes, but it goes because I know I'm doing the right, excuse me, thank you. But I know I'm doing the right things. Right, so, and again, I think it goes back to energy. But I think you have to look at it from that view, just kind of like with perception, it's like you gotta put yourself in their shoes. Well, you also gotta be the person that you wish you would be, or you wish you would have had, right? So I think that plays a big role in that too. Guys, I understand you, but this is a really big thing.
Josh (1:01:01)
Yeah, guys understand too with this whole belief thing, that there's like, there's going to be days when, and moments that like, you don't believe, right? Like going back to the affirmation things with the leadership thing, um, ended the day yesterday, had a really awesome day. Um, you know, I'm a leader here at first form on the leadership team. Had a very positive discussion about like, just my role and expectations of me and a couple other guys here, but it like, also tanked my belief at the same time because of like how much further that I have to go.
Dino Music (1:01:05)
There's gonna be days and moments that you don't focus on. Going back to the affirmation things with the leadership thing, ended the day yesterday, had a really awesome day. I'm a leader here at First One with a leadership team. Had a very positive discussion about just my role and expectations of me and a couple of guys here. But it also tanked my belief in state of mind because of how much further that I have to go. And I had that moment of like,
Josh (1:01:31)
And I had that moment of like, man, like, I'm not like those guys. Like, and, but guess what? On my ride home, I still did my affirmations. Why? Maybe they weren't my most high belief affirmations because I know that my words matter and those thoughts that I had of, Hey, I got a long way to go. Words are going to trump thoughts every time. So to Dino's point earlier, I'm just going to say it again. You got to get out of your head and you got to speak. Right. And you got to write and you got to just get it out because when it's right around in your head. Um,
Dino Music (1:01:36)
and guess what, I still did my affirmations. Why? Maybe they weren't my most high-belief affirmations because I know that my words matter. And those thoughts that I had, okay, I got a long way to go, words are gonna count as thoughts. So, to Dino's point earlier, I'm just gonna say it again. You gotta get out of your head and you gotta speak. You gotta speak. You gotta write, you gotta just get it out. Because when it's right around your head, just to take this to a spiritual place, the devil has controlled your mind. And he's gonna think all kinds of things.
Josh (1:01:59)
just to take this to a spiritual place, the devil controls your mind, right? And he's gonna paint all kinds of horrible pictures and it's gonna tank belief. So if you're somebody that struggles with that, try to actually get out of your mind, journal, speak these things, and speak what you want, not what is. I love that. And I'll add to that story. I don't think you lose belief for a person out there. I think it's just concealed. It's a little bit smaller. It's not as strong, but I don't think that ever goes with that.
Dino Music (1:02:07)
I was percent. I love that. And I want to add something to that story. I don't think you lose belief or it's just not there. I think it's just.
Concealed right? It's a it's a little bit smaller. It's not as strong, but I don't think it ever goes away Right, and I think it's important that you keep doing those things, you know, but even with that too It's like hey Maybe you might be for you might have this long road to go But a different perspective that I can I could even just pick out of that is like well What if the skills you have now and who you are? Maybe you're not gonna be like those people But maybe there's a need for a person like yourself right now I'm not saying you have all the skills that you need to do exactly
Josh (1:02:29)
And I think it's important that you keep doing those things. You know, but even with that too, it's like, hey, maybe you might have this long road to go, but a different perspective that I could even just take out of that is like, well, what if the skills you have now, maybe you're not going to be like those people, but maybe there's a need for a person like yourself. Right now, I'm not saying you have all the skills that you need to do exactly, you know, maybe take something to a further level yet because there's still so much knowledge to
Dino Music (1:02:50)
you know, maybe take something to a further level yet, because there's still so much knowledge to learn. But what if your style is still very important and actually has an impact that you just don't see yet? Right, now I'm sure you've thought about that already, but it's like, again, it's quick to see that thought and be like, damn dude, I'm not there. I don't know if I'll ever be there, blah, blah. But it's like, hold on, no, I have good skills. This is the things I need to work on, but this is what I'm really good at, right? And I think it's also important to go back to the things that, not that you're comfortable with, but the things that you know you do really well. And then even if there's things that you need to work on,
Josh (1:02:54)
But what if your style is still very important and actually has an impact that you just don't see yet? Now I'm sure you thought about that already, but again, it's quick to see that thought and be like, damn dude, I'm not there. I don't know if I'll ever be there, blah, blah. But as I hold on, no, I have good skills. This is the things I need to work on, but this is what I'm really good at. And I think it's also important to go back to the things that not that you're comfortable with, but the things that you know you do really well. And then even if there's things you need to work on, it's like, all right, I do this really well, and I got you're doing the work.
Dino Music (1:03:19)
It's like, all right, I do this really well. And I got here doing the work subconsciously or consciously, whatever, but I can do the same thing for here. Now, how can I combine those two? I hope that makes sense.
Josh (1:03:23)
subconsciously or consciously whatever, but I can do this day and day for a year. How can I combine those two? Yeah. Oh, a hundred percent does. And that's honestly what happened. Like I immediately went into like a retrospect of like, you know what, like the, the disbelief came from the gap and the skills that I don't have to your point is like, I like, cause I was being compared to like people that run billion dollar companies and it's like, all right, well, if they did that, a, I know it's possible B I know that me developing the skills and
Dino Music (1:03:32)
See, I'm not surprised.
I know that me developing a skill and going through that whole process, I believe that I can develop other skills and those skills that I develop on my own, I can make them a lot easier. So it wasn't really necessarily a disease, it was just like a fear. I know how hard it was to get a cure and it was just like that, I was just wrecked according to the time. So I left it on a great topic.
Josh (1:03:51)
going through that whole process, I believe that I can develop other skills and those skills that I develop are only gonna make me more dynamic, make me more valuable. Right, so it was that, it wasn't really necessarily a belief, it was just like a holy shit. Like I know how hard it was to get here and it was just like that like deep breath before you put your head down and climb the next mountain kind of thing. You know what I mean? So I left it on a very positive note, but guys like that all came from a lot of action.
And looking back in retrospect, knowing that, hey, like I believe that I can improve and that all these things that I've done got me to where I am. And anything I do from here on forward is going to get me to where I want to go. So it's a high level of belief. And really what I want to kind of say there is because to Dino's point, there are layers of, of thoughts, right? It's what's your prevailing thought? What is the core thought that you have? Is it a positive or is it a negative? Because yeah, we all deal with the negative belief happens all the time, right? It's all around us, but what do you bounce back to? What's your bedrock?
Dino Music (1:04:15)
and looking back in retrospect knowing, hey, I believe that I can't tell these things that I'm not who I am, and anything I do to hear on the floor is going to take me way over the top. Really, what I want to kind of say there is because, you know, the point that our writer put up was awesome.
Right. It's what's your privilege. What is the core topic you have? Is it a positive or is it a negative? Because the ability is negative. 100%. I know it's not. I don't know about that. But what are you about to ask me just because I'm not? Mm-hmm. No, I can't react like that. Mm-hmm. I love that, dude. It's going back to that core. And I think you said it perfectly. You know, for me, man, and I don't know how long we've been going. I think we've been going for a while. I like it. The last thing I want to touch on it as far as like even for myself,
Josh (1:04:43)
Is it like, no I can't or yes I can? I love that. It's going back to that core. Yeah. And I think you said it perfectly. You know, for me man, I don't know how long I've been doing it. Power. I like it. Last thing I want to touch on it as far as like, even for myself, and I'm sure you've heard before, but I've always had like a type of perfectionist mindset and I don't even want to say I've always had. I believe that you have to be perfect. And because of that, I feel like, even if I do things really, really well.
Dino Music (1:05:01)
But I have always had like a type of perfectionist mindset and I don't even want to say I've always had I've believed that you have to be perfect and because of that my whole life Even if I do things really well the one thing I mess up on that's the thing I end up focusing on you know and it's still I still carry that over to this day like it's it doesn't just leave But it gets I get better at controlling it Right and it's like dude. That's something I struggle with because it's like you know as I'm telling as we're talking to you guys And talking about like hey, you just got to win
Josh (1:05:13)
One thing I messed up on that's the thing I'm not focusing on. You know, and it's still, I still carry that over to this day. Like it doesn't just leave, but it gets, I get better at controlling it. Right? And it's like, that's something I struggle with because it's like, you know, as I'm telling you, as we're talking to you guys and talking about like, hey, you just gotta win, you know, more days than you used. Dude, for me, I feel like I'm not perfect. I'm not winning. You know, and that was a tough thing for me to break. And on again, I still have those moments. Right? But I go back to that too because...
Dino Music (1:05:28)
you know, more days and you lose. Dude, for me, I feel like if I'm not perfect, I'm not winning, you know, and that was a tough thing for me to break, you know, and again, I still have those moments, right? But I go back to that too, because, you know, it's again, it's a process. It's the journey of it, dude, you know, and it's like, we're all humans, you're all going to go through these even those guys who run billion dollar companies, guess what, they're having the same thoughts you and I are having right now. But again, we try to fill in the gaps, and we assume that they're perfect. So we got to be perfect. You know, one of the best blessings that my mom and my dad used to tell me is like, dude,
Josh (1:05:40)
You know, it's a process, it's the journey of it, dude. You know, and it's like, we're all humans, you're all gonna go through these. Even those guys who run a billion dollar company, guess what, they're having the same thoughts you and I are having right now. But again, we try to fill in the gaps, and we assume that they're perfect, so we gotta be perfect. You know, one of the best plus things that my mom and my dad used to tell me is like, dude, you watch professional soccer players every single Saturday, Sunday, and wake up in the morning. How many times have they missed a goal? I'm like, well, fuck, they actually missed a lot. How much more money did they make from you?
Dino Music (1:05:58)
You watch professional soccer players every single Saturday, Sunday, wake up when you wake up in the morning. How many times do they miss a goal? I'm like, well, they actually miss a lot. How much more money do they make than you millions? And I'm like, damn, dude, I miss at a high school game. This dude misses and he gets paid 100 million. I'm I think I'm OK. Right. But again, you know, for me, that was always a challenge. But I share that because it's like it never just goes away. You just get really good at taking control of it.
Josh (1:06:10)
And I'm like, damn dude, I missed an ice-cold game. Those people missed it. They hit me on your butt. I'm like, I'm okay. Right, but again, you know, for me, that was always a challenge, but I share that because it's like, it never just goes away. You should get really good at taking control of it. Right, and it's like for you, you're always a guy who wants more and wants to do better because you get grind, grinder, right? Hustler.
Dino Music (1:06:24)
right? And it's like for you, dude, you're always a guy who wants more and wants to do better because you're that grind grinder, right? Hustler. Let's put it I think Hustler sounds better. Sorry. Not even gonna go there with that one. Okay, Hustler. But I won't tell Kim. But but I think it's one of those things where like even for you, you still have those moments too. But again, you got good at controlling because guess what? How did you feel when you got home? You probably felt 10 times better than when you left this. And I think that's the important piece is never you're
Josh (1:06:31)
but I think most of it sounds better. So I'm not gonna go there without it. Yeah, Grindr, we'll just avoid that. I gotta delete that app now, damn it. It's good. I want to. But I think one of those things where like, you still have those moments too, but if you got good at controlling them, because guess what? How did you feel when you got home? You probably felt 10 times better than when you left this. Yeah. And I think that's the important piece is, never, understand that those things, never just go away, just get that out of control. Yeah, 100%. And to that point, like the whole perfectionist mindset,
Dino Music (1:06:54)
Understand that those things never just go away, you just get better at controlling.
Josh (1:07:00)
I think it's okay to have that mindset, but also have the understanding and the knowledge that, hey, it's okay to have that mindset because that is drawing me to this point, right? So if perfection is a hundred percent, well, hey, 90% is still pretty damn good. And if you don't have that perfection mindset, maybe your peak is 75, but then you're operating at 60. You know what I mean? So it's the energy that's drawing you forward. What is the expectation?
Dino Music (1:07:02)
Absolutely.
Josh (1:07:26)
because if it's a really high level of space, it's kind of just a cheesy thing, but like, hey, shoot for the moon, you'll land among the stars, right? I don't think it's true at all. I think it's fucking true. Yeah, but it is. And Coach Brian talked about this. He's like, dude, I change perfection knowing that it's not real, because I know other people look at it and they are a thing and they're not willing to even work or try to go for that. He's like, so I'm gonna go for that, knowing it's not attainable, but because I go for that, I'm gonna get closer than anybody else can and I'm gonna be the best that I can. Exactly. Well, you can do that with life and that's your point, that's what you're saying.
Dino Music (1:07:29)
0%.
I don't think it's cheesy at all. I think it's the fucking truth. And dude, Kobe Bryant talks about this. He's like, dude, I chase perfection knowing that it's not real. Because I know other people look at it and they understand the same thing and they're not willing to even work or try to go for that. He's like, so I'm gonna go for that knowing it's not obtainable. But because I go for that, I'm gonna get closer than anybody else can and I'm gonna be the best that I can. Well, you could do that with life. And that's to your point. That's what you're saying is, dude, if you shoot like 75%, you're not gonna hit you're gonna go 60.
Josh (1:07:55)
is dude, if you shoot your half 75%, you're not gonna hit it, you're gonna go for it. But if you shoot for 120, knowing that it's not possible, you're gonna probably drop the hand top. Guess what? Cover a lot more ground than if you set the bottle all the way. Yep, it's the expectation you place in yourself and the sense of urgency, right? But it's also knowing that, hey, don't beat yourself up because it's not realistic, you know what I mean? And again, what's real? But at the same time, it's like, if you know you can't be perfect, but you're still shooting for it, you're not gonna be beating yourself up on a day-to-day basis, because guess what?
Dino Music (1:08:00)
But if you shoot for 120, knowing that it's not possible, you're gonna probably drop at 95. Well guess what? You covered a lot more ground than if you set the bar lower. That was a question I wanted to ask you.
Josh (1:08:25)
You go to bed every single day, knowing that you did your best. And it's a question I wanted to ask you, could you brought that up? What is a win for you every day? Like, what does a winning day look like? That's a good question. I think for me, so I can go back to it. I've gotten really good with like my morning routine, my habits. But I still look at that as a component, right? Because how I look at it is like, if I can do those small things, even though I know I'm going to have it or I know how to do it, where I've done it for so long. If I start my day off with a win.
Dino Music (1:08:52)
What is a winning game?
Josh (1:08:53)
I'm writing a hack, right, momentum, right? And then the next way I look at it is, all right, how do I add value to someone either in the building or my team? How do I make something today? Right, so I try to categorize it in all different ways of how I can win, you know? And the first thing that I do is like, if I can wake up early, just like I normally do, and get my stuff done, even again, even though I do it so often, I look at that as a win, because, you know, something coming from a perfectionist mindset, like a lot of us do.
Dino Music (1:08:56)
right? And then the next way I look at it is like, all right, how do I add value to someone either in the building on my team? How do I make someone's day? Right? So I try to like categorize it in a couple of different ways of how I can win, you know? Um, and the first thing that I do is like, if I can wake up early, just like I normally do and get my stuff done, even again, even though I do it so often, I look at that as a win because, you know, someone coming from a perfectionist mindset, like a lot of us do, I would normally look at that as like, well, that's just what I'm supposed to do. And it's like, sure. Yes, it is.
Josh (1:09:20)
I would normally look at that as like, well, that's what I'm supposed to do. And it's like, sure, yes it is. But why don't I give myself a little bit of grace and be like, oh yeah, you did that bar act and what's the next thing? Because that's building my mental. Right, so my first one of the day is always my college. It's always my morning class. It's always that thing. And if I can do that, even if it's not perfect, I'm like, I got it done, cool, what's the next one I'm looking for? And the other one is the people. I'm like, how do I add value to people? I'm a people person. I understand that if I can lead back to the goal, I think that is the key to me accessing more in my life.
Dino Music (1:09:24)
But why don't I give myself a little bit of grace and be like, hell yeah, you did that? All right, cool, what's the next thing? Because that's building my memento, right? So my first one of the day is always my powerless. It's always my morning tasks is always that thing. And if I can do that, even if it's not perfect, I'm like, I got it done, cool, what's the next one I'm looking for? Then the other one is the people. I'm like, how do I add value to people? Because I'm a people person. I understand that if I can give back to the world, I think that is the key to me accessing more in my life, right, because that energy piece, right? So if I could do it without the expectation of getting something back.
Josh (1:09:49)
Right? Because that energy is, right? So if I could do it without the expectation of getting something back, I know I'm doing the right thing and I know I like to work out the way it's supposed to be. So I always look for ways, how do I make someone's day? Where can I add value? Where can I help someone? Where can I see someone smile? And it's not just like one person, I'm like, all right, cool, I made Josh's day, now I'm going back, but fuck everybody. You know what I mean? It's like, okay, how many times can I do this to do this in a day? And then depending on how the day goes, obviously, you know, we all have different jobs.
Dino Music (1:09:54)
I know I'm doing the right thing and I know life will work out the way it's supposed to be. So I always look for ways how do I make someone's day? Where can I add value? Where can I help someone? Where can I see someone smile? And it's not just like one person. I'm like, all right, cool. I made Josh's day. Now I'm going back to fuck everybody. You know what I mean? It's like, okay, how many times can I do this? Do this in a day? And then depending on how the day goes, obviously, you know, we all have different jobs, different, different requirements. But what I look at is like, all right, how well did I do? Did I not do well? No, did I mess something up? Okay, now what can I do to correct that?
Josh (1:10:16)
different requirements but what I look at is how well did I do, did I not do well, did I mess something up, okay, now what can I do to correct that? Because to me, you know, it's hard to look at the things that you do wrong. So I try to see where I can improve in a way where it's not beating myself up so that I can correct it even if it is a conversation with someone or if it's something that attacks that I didn't do correctly. Because if I could retroactively look back at that or be aware of that and break it down and be like, okay, hey, what could have I done differently?
Dino Music (1:10:24)
Because to me, you know, it's hard to look at the things that you do wrong. So I try to see where I can improve in a way where it's not beating myself up so that I could correct it, even if it is a conversation with someone, or if it's something that a task that I didn't do correctly, because if I can retroactively look back at that or be aware of that and break it down and be like, okay, hey, what could have I done differently? I'm making more wins because that is the process of winning, right? If I lose or do something wrong, I'm taking it in a positive way and looking at how I can fix it.
Josh (1:10:44)
I'm making more wins because that is the process of winning, right? If I lose, if there's something wrong, I'm kicking in a pot of wins that I can pick. Right? Like before, if you would have told me, like, hey, you have to watch a game video, you know, after you're done with the game. I wouldn't want to do that. Like, I'm like, I don't want to see all the things I made wrong. I don't want to know about it. Like, I just want to forget it and do wrong. Well, for me, I'll be able to retroactively look at those things. Yep. Right? So I hope that kind of helps with answering your question. But like, for me, I look at it in any single way that I can.
Dino Music (1:10:52)
Right? Like before, if you would have told me like, Hey, do we have to watch game video, you know, after you're done with the game? I wouldn't want to do that. Like I'm like, I don't want to see all the things I made or did wrong. I don't want to know about it. Like I just want to forget it and move on. Well, for me, a big win is being able to retroactively look at those things. Right? So I hope that kind of helps with answering your question, but like for me, I look at any single way that I can make someone's day or do something of value to the world. And again, I try to look even as something so small as saying, hi, I'm like, what bigger purpose could I had an impact on?
Josh (1:11:13)
make someone's day or do something of value to the world. And again, I tried to look at the universe something so small at the same time. I'm like, what bigger purpose did I have an impact on? Outside of just making you smile and making you laugh or giving you a few seconds of like, oh, okay, cool. I needed that, right? I'm like, what is the bigger purpose on that? Because to me, then it takes that small win into something bigger. How would that make sense? Really, it's a win when you say hi to somebody because they're like, damn, Ryan Reynolds just said hi to me. Really?
Dino Music (1:11:22)
you know, outside of just making you smile and making you laugh or giving you a few seconds of like, ah, okay, cool. He's, oh, yeah, I needed that. Right. I'm like, what is a bigger purpose on that? Because to me, then it takes that small win into something bigger. I hope that makes sense. Hey bro, I'll take that one. I'll take that one. I need an extra hundred pounds, dog.
Josh (1:11:40)
Hey bro, I'll pay you. Was that John Cena that just said I didn't? I didn't make that comment. Dude, I would say for me, it's literally almost identical to yours. Okay, what I would add to that for my winning day is was I present where I was? Was I where my feet were? That's something as a father, somebody that's very ambitious with his career and like just personal physical fitness and all that, is like, was I where I was, right? Was I working with my kids? Cause that's a loss, like immediately. So I look at it that way. And then the second thing,
Dino Music (1:11:49)
Really.
Right. That was percent.
Josh (1:12:10)
is a successful audit of my day, similar to you, but I audit my conversations, right? It's like, hey, what could I have done here? And did I give 100% to that conversation and 100% of the value that I knew I could give, right? Or did I hold something back, which I mean, I can't remember the last time I've done that. So yeah, very, very similar to yours though. Value, bro. Yeah. It's crazy how we're a lot alike when it comes to this. Yeah, 100%. I think there's a secret to that. You know, not even, but I think there's- Success leaves clues. Yeah, 100%.
Dino Music (1:12:25)
Right. I love that, dude. It's crazy how we're a lot alike when it comes to this. But I think there's a secret to that, you know, not even a secret, but I think there's beauty. Yeah. 100%. I think that's the best way to put it. It really does. You know, but I think the more that you can do that and also with this, too, there's never going to be a time where everything is perfect. You're not going to win everything. Like even in your days, as good as it can go, there's going to be a loss. And don't sit on those losses and.
Josh (1:12:39)
I think that's the best way to put it, if it does. But I think the more that you can do that, and also with this too, there's never gonna be a time where everything's perfect. You're not gonna win anything. Like even in your days, if you're busy, you know there's gonna be a loss. And don't sit on those losses. Focus on the wins. Look at the losses and look in the long run. Right, but even to your point, dude, as president as you can be, as much reflection as you do, I bet you there's always a loss that you can pick out of your day. I bet you there's always something you can get. Well, I definitely could have done that,
Dino Music (1:12:54)
Focus on the wins. Look at the losses and what can you learn from them, right? But even to your point, dude, as president as you could be as much reflection as you do, I bet you there's always a loss that you can pick out of your day. I bet you there's always some you can be like, well, I definitely could have done that better, like always. But again, there's a lot of things that you do well. The reason I bring that up is because again, cause I'm a perfectionist or hate saying even I am because it's confirming or telling me that this is why I am. These thoughts that I believe
Josh (1:13:08)
always but again there's a lot of things that you do well the reason i bring that up is because again because i'm a perfectionist or hate saying even i am because it's confirming or telling me that this is who i am these thoughts that i believed or this mindset that i thought you got to kind of work through is just being perfectionist it's not real right and i think when you can realize that it gives you a little bit more grace to keep going on that momentum because i think a lot of the momentum gets killed when you're not perfect
Dino Music (1:13:21)
or this mindset that I thought you had to kind of work through is just being perfectionist. It's not real, right? And I think when you can realize that, it gives you a little bit more grace to keep you going on that momentum. Because I think a lot of the momentum gets killed when you're not perfect. So that would be my two cents into that, I would say. Love it. You think so? All right. I'll go with that, dude.
Josh (1:13:36)
So that would be my two cents into that. Freaking love it. Well, we're at about hour 13. I think this was extremely, extremely valuable. Um, definitely better than the one we recorded last time. Yeah. A hundred percent. Yeah. That was just, I wasn't in the right head space because the wifi kept seeing like bull crap. So I think this one was amazing. Everything happens for a very, very good purpose. And, uh, we definitely made this one better, but guys clean takeaways for this one are.
You got to expect more. You got to have a more positive mindset. You got to take an audit of what is affecting your beliefs. And you got to make a conscious decision to believe differently. Right. Yes. It's really that simple. Right. And then you get into action, understanding that you don't have that belief to take action, the belief will come right. As long as you are looking at what is and not what was. Right. So books that we referenced was the miracle morning, and then I'm going to throw up that Lex Friedman post. So you got to make sure I grabbed that.
Dino Music (1:14:17)
I think you are looking at what is and not what works. So, books that we referenced was The Miracle Morning, and then I'm gonna throw up that flex-cube and post it. Yeah, absolutely. Guys, I hope you have an amazing, amazing weekend. I appreciate all of you listening. As always, if you took anything of value away from the show, please share it. Our main mission here is not to monetize this and make it killing, because obviously we don't, we just want to have value to the world and change people's lives and help people understand that you can be better. Oh yeah, thank you.
Josh (1:14:27)
But guys, I hope you have an amazing, amazing weekend. I appreciate all of you listening. As always, if you've took anything of value away from the show, please share it. Our main mission here is not to monetize this and make a killing, because obviously we don't, we just wanna add value to the world and change people's lives and help people understand that you can be better. All you gotta do is make the decision to be. Love it, and we'll go back to the health side of things today in our viral clip, please if you guys have any questions, do not hesitate for a minute or two to take a nerd. I also don't hesitate to talk to us
Dino Music (1:14:45)
Love it. And also with that too, we also have a Q&A in our bio. So please, if you guys have any questions, do not hesitate to put any there anything in there. And also don't hesitate to reach out to us, right? We're here for the reason of helping or doing as much as we can to add value to the world. So thank you guys. We appreciate you like comment, subscribe. I think that's a thing. I don't know. I heard that from YouTube. So do all that stuff. Help spread the message, share it to someone who can take value from this. And yeah, that's all I got, man.
Josh (1:14:57)
health and security as much as we can to add value to the world. So thank you guys. We appreciate you. Like, comment, subscribe. I don't know if that's a thing. I don't know. I heard that. So through all that stuff, I'll spread the message to share it with someone who can take value from this. And yeah, that's all I have to say. All right. Talk to you guys next time.
Dino Music (1:15:16)
Peace!