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Welcome to "Visionary Voices" the podcast where we dive into the minds of business owners, founders, executives, and everyone in between.
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Let's begin.
So Drew, welcome to the show.
Thank you so much for taking the time.
So can you give us a top level view of what it is that you do right now and your journey
so far?
Yeah, so I actually have my hands in a few different things at the moment.
So I have a company.
that I own that is called DB Impact where I do consulting for small businesses and
startups.
And so that's kind of one avenue that I focus on.
As of this month, I'm actually going to be launching an investment fund with my partner
Tracy Gore.
So that is, we're going to be launching that here very soon.
That's going to be a customizable fund where we're working with a credited investor.
specifically in kind of fixed investments, real estate, oil and gas.
And then as of this month as well, put together a group of guys and we're actually
creating an online men's community for education and community and things of that nature.
So got my hands in a few different things at the moment.
And then there's some tech stuff on the social media side that is a work in progress as
well.
kind of all over the place.
you have that entrepreneurial spirit, right?
So I love to dive into your journey a little bit about, know, why did you get into the
business world?
What was that journey like?
And I guess what are some of the pivots you've had along the way, right?
Because you've gone into a few different industries there.
So, so what did that look like for you?
Yeah, I would say for me, I, so I went to college and although I did go to get an
education, I went really to play baseball.
So I was in college to do that and did a few different things.
wound up getting a.
teaching certification in exercise sports science.
So was gonna be a gym teacher and a coach, did my student teaching and realized this isn't
it for me.
And so at the time, my dad actually had just started a restaurant and he was about to.
And so pivoted a little bit to help him.
I was still doing a few other things at the time, but that was kind of my, I would say
initial kind of launch into the business world.
From there,
I've worked, I've either had my own business or worked in small and small medium sized
businesses.
so that's really just been my journey.
I've worked in a lot of different industries and for me it was really the growth portion
of things is the thing that really excited me.
And so I realized the getting things started, new ideas, I was always somebody that had.
you know, ideas for everything, right?
And so I realized that that was kind of where this was gonna be taking me, so.
Yeah, that makes sense.
And it makes sense that you're on that entrepreneurial pathway.
If you've got that need to grow and always develop and create new things, new ideas, that
is the entrepreneurial lifestyle, it?
it's definitely a fit there.
And then, so you mentioned you're in the tech and automation marketing space as well.
So what does that look like?
What's that business do?
And what do you work on that?
Yeah, so I would say that that's not its own business quite yet.
Really where that came from is when Tracy and I had...
kind of started the idea of launching our own investment fund.
I realized after talking to individuals that have their own funds, especially for
accredited investors, the marketing side of things and making sure that you're adding
value, people can see what you're doing is super important.
And what I was finding is there was a lot of AI technology that's out there, but a lot of
it was really focused on
very specific channels, right?
There's a ton focused right now on like faceless YouTube channels or faceless, you know,
Instagram reels and things like that, which is great, but it wasn't really what we were
looking for.
And so what I was trying to do is to figure out how do I automate 90 % of this process so
that I can still input the information that I want, have a chance to review it after AI
has actually...
you know, done its thing and then be able to schedule it and post it.
Right.
And so what I did is I just, I kind of went to school a little bit on my own and started
watching YouTube videos, found a couple different communities of people that were just
really into kind of that more no code.
automation and I'm definitely not a coder.
you know, I'm not, I know enough to be dangerous.
I say that a lot.
Like I know enough to be, to, to like I said, get myself into some trouble.
But ultimately what I did is I just kind of created a system where we can input
information, whether it be videos, audio, URLs.
So we see a blog that we really like and we want to use that to generate social media
content out of, and then as well as just
Text so if I have some ideas that I want the system to create for me That that's what
it'll do.
And so Ultimately, what I've been doing now is trying to figure out Talking to a few
different individuals in the the more I would say developer space, which is way above my
head and figuring out how do I how do I take the system that I've built but make it
user-friendly because
What we've built currently right now, as you know, I think you and I talked a little bit
about that the first time was there's a lot out there, a lot you can do, but you have to
take the time and you have to have the know-how to be able to actually implement those in
your business, right?
And so my biggest thing is I see working with a lot of small business owners or even in
the startup space and that technology is moving so quickly.
and everybody feels like they're really behind.
And so for me, it was really about figuring out how do I use the technology to do the
heavy lifting of what I'm doing, but I still want control because I don't want a faceless,
faceless reels are great, but if I'm working on an investment fund, I want my face, I want
Tracy's face.
want, you know, we have to be the brand as well, right?
So that's kind of where that's currently at at the moment.
And so really just finding the right developer partner that can really help me make a
really easy UI is really the next stage in that process.
yeah, so it's been a journey, a lot of learning, but that's, like I said, that's not quite
its own business yet.
It's just a piece that I use for my business and then the investment fund at the moment.
And so that's kind of where that's at.
Yeah, I think you raise a really good point there because there's so much out there within
the automation AI space, right?
And me and you, think are very, very alike in that sense.
I use a lot of these tools a lot.
And the biggest bottleneck companies do have is the front end is like, yeah, you can get
someone in to build out these automations and whatever that looks like.
But then the actual data input or the data manipulation, what does that look like for the
people using it, using the tools, non-technical tools?
And I think that is where.
the next step of tools are going to come in which is going to streamline that front-end
development process.
I mean there's a couple tools out there that can build on know Airtable and Make and all
those different tools and everything but again it's not the most user-friendly, it's not
the cleanest overall and so it's definitely going to be interesting to see how people
start to bridge that gap because right now you're right you need to go out and find
someone who is basically a developer or very technical to maybe even code that front-end
to make it nice and neat for people using it.
But I think you're completely right in the sense that people do need to start thinking
about, we can build these automations out, how are they actually going to use it and
utilize it properly?
I think that's going to be big question for a lot companies.
Big time.
I think the other part too, and this is something that I go through with any of the
clients that I'm working with is you can over automate, right?
And you can over, just because there's a system out there that is awesome, right?
You can use it to get a thousand leads, but if you don't have the foundation set up to be
able to actually.
work those leads and be able to go after those.
You're just wasting money and time, right?
And so that's the other part too, is figuring out how do we build something that's
specific for small businesses?
And I say small business, I mean like the solopreneur that doesn't want to spend five
grand on a social media company or a small team that's just trying to generate content.
That's really my goal and I feel like that's a massive need right now.
Because otherwise you're bringing in what I did, which is like eight different systems and
hours of a couple months of not sleeping to figure out how to do it.
And so that's really my goal with that is just to help people with that specific niche of
here's something that's user friendly.
You don't have to be super tech savvy to use it.
And so we'll see where the journey goes.
It's about finding the right partner now.
That's really where it's at.
Yeah, definitely.
And what you said there makes so much sense, know, over automating.
I definitely fell into that trap, you know, a good couple years ago when I started to get
heavily into the no code area.
But well, if there's an API there, let me just connect them and try and automate.
But it's like the task takes me 10 seconds to do.
why, why am I spending time trying to figure out how to code this together?
Like it doesn't always make sense to do so.
And plus, when it breaks as well, and you've got to try and troubleshoot something so
complex, because, know, within automation, you're getting a little bit more technical as
you know.
It's just all about the conditional logic, like where's the information flowing to and
making sure those things are working well.
And if information isn't getting sent through in the correct format, you've got to figure
out, how do I figure this out to fix it?
And then if the system's down as well, then you've got to figure that side of it out as
well.
And so it's like a never ending process of trying to fix things.
that's the part too where I said like, can get yourself, I get myself into trouble because
I'm like, I know I can functionally do some of this stuff, but I'm like, I need that next
high level person that knows way more than I do.
So, but yeah, you're spot on.
It's the finding the system that functionally works for the operation that you're trying
to accomplish.
And if it is gonna make your life easier, then it's to me, it's worth the time.
but the over automation of things, think people can really get into that.
Like just cause something's really cool, right?
Doesn't mean you absolutely need it for your business at the time, you know.
Yeah, I mean, it's that shiny object syndrome, right, which is so easy to get.
And especially you made a good point earlier about people feel very behind with technology
because it's moving at such a quick rate and so they feel like they need to hop onto these
things.
But ultimately you do need to give some time to think about, do we actually need to
implement this tool?
And plus, if you haven't got a business model that works, sales process that works, right,
as you said, you can download a thousand, 10,000 leads, stick it into clay, say like,
okay, we're going to do some email outreach and you're not going to get any replies.
It doesn't matter what tool you use.
If the offer sucks, it's just not going to convert.
So you still need to take the time to fix the core business methods, not think, okay,
well, we're going to implement this tool and that's going to fix everything and we're
going to get sales from it.
It's just not the way like business works at all.
Yeah.
I think, and I think the other part of that too, I've been in sales long enough to where,
you know, it started off as you just cold cold, you know, and like email was somewhat of a
thing, but it wasn't huge.
then email became a really big thing.
Then texts became a big thing.
Then it was all these different systems.
And what I'm finding is it's almost converting back to the, the relational more relational
sale because
Inboxes are getting flooded.
You're getting text messages from everybody and anybody nowadays.
And so it's really just, it's about that relationship port, you know, style, unless you're
selling a widget or a cup or something, you know what I mean?
Then it's about mass, you know, getting to the masses.
but I've just seen that kind of evolution of relational through all the technology.
And now there's so much technology where it's like, okay, how do you, how do you bridge
that gap a little bit better?
from that aspect.
So I think that's a good point you made too, is just the over.
Yeah, because I was going to say, I'm seeing the exact same thing where we went through
that phase of everyone being super transactional.
And now when you look at your cold emails, right, in your inbox, everyone sounds the exact
same.
You can't differentiate one from the other.
And so so interesting, as you said, we're going full circle back to the relationship first
approach to things.
And, you know, and I always say to my clients, like, the more people you speak to, the
more money you'll make naturally as a business.
So
just prioritize conversations with your ideal client.
And then naturally the money will flow from there.
But so many times people are just chasing that transaction, that quick sale, whatever that
looks like.
But especially now, maybe like a couple years ago, three years ago, inboxes weren't as
busy.
Some of the copy was still pretty new.
So yeah, it was converting well.
But I know a lot of people in just the lead gen space in general, and they're seeing like
month and month, their churns getting worse and worse, their results going down and down.
And so it's gonna be so interesting to see.
in the next five years what happens to a lot of these lead gen agencies and how they maybe
pivot away from that transactional cold email and something new.
But it'll be interesting to see what that evolution looks like.
Yeah, big time.
it's funny.
It's funny you say that too, as I just had this conversation with somebody about LinkedIn.
I used to love LinkedIn from a standpoint of like, I could reach out to somebody, I could
send them a message about whatever it was that I was, I was trying to connect with them
on.
And now, I mean,
I think five or six people a day, getting the messages and then all of sudden, if I don't
respond in 24 hours, I get another message, another message, and I'm like, okay, so
they're using some sort of automation.
Did they even take a look at why we would be a good fit?
You know what I mean?
And so a lot of times, I think that's, like the user fatigue or it's like, I just don't
have the time to respond to some bot.
And I think that's where the relationship side is really shifting, in my opinion.
Yeah, yeah, they'll completely agree and it's so funny because I get some which are saying
hey we can get you, you we can be your marketing partner, we can do this whatever and it's
like have you not read my LinkedIn profile?
Like, I literally do this for living.
Right?
Yeah, and those are the messages where you're like, okay, a hundred other people got this
same message and you know, it's just, it's just not going to work, you know?
So yeah, we're, we're completely on, on the same page with that for sure.
Yeah, definitely.
So tell me more about the fun that you're starting.
What's the mission with that and what's your plan to really roll that out and bring it to
the masses?
Yeah, to be very honest, it was something that I always kind of knew about.
It wasn't a it wasn't something on the forefront of, I would say, my mission or the things
that I was doing.
And I was lucky enough to meet Tracy, like I said, my my partner in that.
And she's actually the one that approached me.
Originally, I she just kind of hired me as a consultant to help with.
She does a million, a million different things.
And so I just helped with, you know, some of her websites and operations and just her
systems overall to get everything she was doing put together in a little bit more of an
efficient manner.
so after, after that happened, realized we had very similar values, you know, worked with
integrity, those types of things.
And, and she's been definitely somebody that's been more in the investment side of things.
for her career, real estate, things like that.
And so she's surrounded by people that are raising money, starting investment funds, know,
all these different deals.
And she's like, I want to do this.
Do you want to do it with me?
And I, I was like, yeah, you know, let's, let's do this.
And so our goal really is we're using a company called Avestor and they have been
unbelievable.
Super glowing recommendation.
If anybody is like thinking about starting a fund, like those guys are, amazing.
But what we really liked about Avestor is it was, they allow you to have a customizable
fund.
And so really what we decided is we don't want to do just, you know, short-term rentals
or, you know, apartment complexes or oil and gas or mortgage back notes.
Like we want to be able to have a fund that we can bring our investors into and give them
the option, depending on what their...
their risk profile is, they want to invest in.
And so that's really what we're setting up.
And so we're going to be launching our first deal in our fund here, probably in the next
couple of weeks.
So depending on when this is out, we'll probably be live by that point in time, which is
awesome.
But that's going to be a raise for a short-term rental portfolio in St.
Louis.
And so our role in that is going to be more helping raise just
purely raise money, not so much on the operating side of things.
And then we have a couple other deals that are coming down the pipeline.
We have another company out of Texas that does first lien mortgage notes, and we're gonna
be setting up a fund specifically to work with them.
And then we have some relationships in oil and gas.
it's funny, you start building something and then all of a sudden these opportunities
start coming out of everywhere.
And so for us, it's really just about...
making sure that we're finding the right deals, we're underwriting them properly, making
sure they fit the goal of our fund.
so that'll be the real cool part about it is our investors can come in, they can create a
profile in our portal, sign our PPM for our fund.
And then as we find new deals, they'll have first access to those new deals.
And so that's really the genius, I think, of the Avestor.
platform and the support that they provide.
So, but yeah, we're gonna be, it's gonna be a busy year with everything we have going on
there.
Yeah, definitely.
I think it's great business model for sure.
I'll dig into the business model a bit more.
when it comes down to having that partner within the business, before, if I'm wrong, but
you were kind of that solo entrepreneur, maybe had some contractors here and there.
But why did you decide to be like, do you know what, this person fits, let me definitely,
you know, create a partnership with them officially, through this business channel.
And how's that been used in transition as well?
that's a great question.
So I have in the past had other business partners to a certain extent.
the one thing I would say, anybody that's looking at getting into business partnerships
with anybody is, I think that people can kind of they can pretend when everything is
status quo, right?
but usually people's true integrity shows when things are either really good or they're
really bad.
And so, and I'm not gonna dive too far into anything specifically, but with Tracy, her and
I have known each other for a few years and there were some things that had gone on where
it would have been very easy for either one of us to kind of fluctuate one way or the
other.
And what I realized was,
When people really show, like I said, who they are in those moments, and when you realize
that the person they are, when everything is status quo, when they're that same person,
when things are really good or really bad, those are the people that I want to do business
with.
And I think when it comes to Tracy, that was something that was very obvious to me.
Her mission, her integrity, her values very much always stayed in line, no matter...
the chaos that was going on or the highs and the lows.
And so I know who I am as a person, right?
And integrity is a massive thing in business or just anything you're doing in life.
And so for me, I think that was like the major thing is I've had the experience on the
other end where I didn't recognize some of those things.
And so for me, it was just really important saying, hey, if I'm going to do something new,
what are the most important things that I'm looking for?
I guess that would be the same as like a relationship, right?
I mean, because that's what you're doing.
You're getting, you're more or less marrying that person, right?
On paper, legally.
And so, yeah.
So when things are going really good, are they gonna, are those values that they're
showing you, are they gonna stay in alignment?
Or is that gonna change?
Or when stuff really hits the fan, you know, are they gonna stay true to who they are and
what they're doing?
And so,
For me, was really the stuff I've gone through in the past really made me recognize what
is that, what's the most important thing?
You know what I mean?
And so that for me was the key to saying, yeah, this is somebody that I can do some really
awesome things with.
I'll always have my back and vice versa.
And so whether there's chaos, whether there's ridiculous success, to me, those are the
pieces that are the...
the most important in a partnership.
Yeah, I completely agree.
mean, I'm nearly, again, not going into too much detail with it, but again, I nearly got
into a partnership in the business sense.
And luckily before anything really went through and, you know, we gave halfway the
company, you know, some events transpired and we, you know, kind of saw the real person,
the real way they act about certain things in certain scenarios.
As we do have to be super careful, but it sounds like to me, you've taken those lessons
from the past.
And then, you know, it's not a rush decision.
You've really analyzed this person to see, okay, does this actually make sense?
You know, moving forward with it.
And like for me, like I've always thought, okay, it'd be cool to have and bring a partner
into the company, but it's going to be a slow burner, right?
It's going to be a case of, need to know the person for very long time before I go and
take that next step and all these different things.
But I completely agree.
I think you need to be very, very cautious overall to really stress test them.
It's just as you would a friend or relationship, whatever
Yeah, and I think the other thing that I would stress that's equally as important is just
peer-open communication, right?
I I think a lot of times, too, the times where things haven't gone well is you're almost,
if you're nervous to talk to your business partner about a situation that's going on, they
may not be the...
the person that you want to be in that business with, right?
Because we're all gonna have life stuff.
Like life is gonna happen.
And so that to me is just a major factor.
It's like, can I openly communicate?
Can we disagree on a situation and be able to have a discussion and be able to hear each
other's?
side of those things to understand like, I just being hard headed and what are they saying
and how is this actually a better way or do I just want to be right?
You know what I mean?
And I think if you can find somebody that's similar, that has that perspective on those
situations, it gives you the opportunity to have those debates without it ever affecting
the partnership.
Because if your goal is just to succeed and both be successful or multiple people be
successful,
then it becomes a moot point and you can actually hear what they're saying.
And so I think ego is a thing too, especially in entrepreneurship, you you want to be
right, you want to be, you know, the man or the woman, whatever that may be.
And so being able to lead when you need to, but then also take a back seat in certain
areas, I think is the flow of a partnership, you know.
Yeah.
And again, you made a really good point about, you know, entrepreneurs, we do have an ego.
Like we all just will have one because we want to win.
We want to win this game.
Right.
And so.
is why we typically are doing what we're doing, right?
Yeah.
exactly.
And, you know, when you look at the partnership side of things, well, there can be
conflict then because you both got an ego when it comes to certain things.
And I think Hormozzi said or Leila or either or, and they said like, whenever they have an
argument, all they see that as is one person has more information than the other.
So someone's uninformed and someone's informed.
So it's just a case of, well, what new information does this person have versus the other
person?
And then they can meet in the middle, be like, oh, okay, that makes sense.
And then decide what to do from there.
And I think that's a really good way of
dropping the ego and saying, this is just an information thing, right?
If we remove the ego, what's our decision?
Okay, we're against each other.
Okay, why?
What do you know that I don't?
And then they just meet in the middle and figure that side of it out, which I think is a
really cool way to approach a partnership.
It's a really cool way to do it.
big time.
it's funny, I mean, we're talking about this.
I think that's relationships in general too.
so like ego, for anybody to say you don't ever have an ego or like I have no ego, like
that's not possible, right?
Everybody has some level of ego to them.
But there is certain things too, and in my opinion, when you're creating partnerships or
you're finding business partners is what am I good at?
You know, and what are the things that that somebody else can maybe do better than I can?
And I think if you're the person that wants to do absolutely everything, that's not you're
going to you're going to work by yourself for a very long time.
Right.
And you're not going to definitely get as far as you probably could.
And so I think that's the other part where Tracy and I really realize, like,
There's something like she is the most amazing networker I've ever met in my life.
Everybody wants to work with her.
And so it's just there's so many aspects to what she does and is capable of.
And me on the other side, I'm very systems oriented and things like that.
That's not per se her strong suit.
It's not that you can't do it or like we can't do the other roles.
But man, there are some some real roles where if we can just lean into those, we're going
to be way more successful.
together and so I think that's the other part too is people being able to recognize like
I'm not very good at that so if I can find somebody that can drive that avenue man it's
gonna get us a lot farther you know
No, no, definitely because you know if you're both at the same, right?
You've got the exact same skill set then What's the point away in a way, right?
Yeah, if they bring something to the table, which you just don't have then yeah great like
it just makes a lot of sense I mean I have a client who has a really great co-founder
because one of them is very much business looking for the strategy The tech with tools and
then the other one is just a people person
And so he manages the hiring, know, managing the team, you know, the sales, all these
different things.
And it's so cool to see how they work together because they're two very different
personality types, but they work so well together because they just, you know, pick up
where each other, you know, has the weakness essay, which is really cool to find as well.
So I'm still looking, but...
it winds up being a relief to like when you find somebody that you feel like you can trust
that is, is going to, that has similar values to you that wants to do things in the right
way.
There's almost a relief of like, okay, I don't have to do that anymore.
And I can just shift my focus back to the things that I'm really good at, you know?
And so there's almost that like sense when you are somebody that's done pretty much
everything on your own.
When you find other people that can fit those little portions, you're like, man, this is
great.
Like you can take a little bit of a breath because you know they're gonna accomplish
things quicker than you could trying to do exactly what they're doing, you know?
yeah, I know totally and then you mentioned about the community side as well So I would
love to dive into that as well.
So why did you decide to start a community and what's the mission or the goal with with
outside of it?
that is a new development as of, I would say, three weeks ago, actually.
So from the time, you know, you and I originally connected.
That's something that the education and mentorship part of things has always been
something that I, it's been a passion of mine, something I've wanted to do.
And for a lot of the clients I work with, I use a system go high level.
and they are, for what they're producing, love their system.
I don't have to use it for a lot of my clients, but it just makes sense.
For the clients it makes sense for, that's the system I use.
And I have a client in Michigan and she's actually building an amazing community that's
really geared towards.
towards women.
so she had this individual, his name's Jared, and him and his wife have a salon and he's
actually, he's actually doing some amazing things with AI technology and health.
And so his backstory is phenomenal, but he had mentioned to her in passing, like, you
know, I'd really love to have
kind of a community, you know, for men and just some of the struggles he was going through
with entrepreneurship and she had called me and she's like, hey, you know, I talked to
Jared.
For whatever reason, was like something clicked and I was like, I gotta take action.
And so it was like Monday night at six o'clock and I was like, I just started typing and I
created like a 12 page white paper on what I thought this could be.
I went in and I redid a page on my website and built the online community in like 24
hours.
I was like, I gotta just take massive action.
And I already had the systems in place, which made my life a lot easier.
And I sent it to Jared and I said, know you just talked to Maggie, but like, here's my
thoughts, love your feedback, and let's do this thing together.
And I got a text back from him.
He's like putting the kids down, call you in 30 minutes.
We jumped on a zoom.
And so from there, we found three other guys that that we trust that, you know, are kind
of bought into the mission.
And so the real goal with the community is we're going to be launching that probably
mid-March, mid to late March.
And what it's going to be is an opportunity for men to
to learn from other men in different areas.
And so there's a lot of very specific communities out there for everything, right?
There's a community for everything nowadays.
And so what our goal really was is to find advisors that can come in that wanna do maybe a
call once a month, run a channel on a specific topic that they're really an expert in.
give guys an opportunity to come in and learn, network, join calls.
We're gonna have a whole learning center that's gonna be a mixture of, know, hopefully
when you're done doing your magic on this, this would be something that we're gonna put
into the community and give people an opportunity that are part of it and say, if you
wanna learn from people, if you need a mentor, if you need, maybe it's just.
You're new dad and you need a place to go a call once a month with other new dads to just
talk about struggles you're going through or things of that nature.
so I would say it's going to be a little bit more of a, I don't know if I like this term
yet.
So don't, don't hold me to this, but a little bit more of like a lifestyle community for
men where depending on what they're looking to learn, or just be a part of something.
so really where that spawned from was Jared and I,
met on so many levels when it came to the loneliness of entrepreneurship.
And I would say women typically do a much better job of finding community and being able
to talk about their feelings and the things that they're going through.
I think it's a little more natural for men to kind of hold those things in and feel pretty
lonely.
Jared and I met on that level and just said, you know what, we got to create something for
a place for men to go, depending on where they're at.
so that is definitely in the development stage.
We're moving quickly.
There's five of us that are kind of the board of advisors that we're just kind of taking
in everybody's information.
We're going to make that very reasonably priced.
So it's going to be 75 bucks a month.
And the cool part that...
that we're going to be doing actually is $25.75 that everybody spends is actually going to
go into a separate fund.
And we're going to let the community vote or pretty much give us recommendations.
And then in the beginning, every six months, we're going to be taking in those
recommendations.
then depending on how much money we have, donating that money back to specific causes and
in our community members.
communities like their personal communities.
So a big aspect of what we want to do is make an impact.
So it's going to be called Men's Collective Impact.
And our goal is just to make as big of an impact as we can on as many men as we can.
And so that's really going to be the main focus of that is not only giving back but
mentorship and just finding people that want to contribute.
If you're an expert in
say finance or taxes or you're a guy that's been a family man that wants to help new dads
go through whatever they're going through or maybe it's the mental health side of things
or the health side of things.
We're gonna try and find experts in all these different areas to really bring people
together and just give them a place to go and hopefully learn and not feel like they're
alone.
Yeah, I love the mission and from the process point of view, It's so cool that you spun
that up so quick from kind of idea to paper to creating something, you know, that's there,
which is really cool from the business point of view.
But from the mission point of view, I think it's so important because you're right, know,
women that they're really good at speaking to other women, right?
Find those communities, talking about what's going on.
yeah, much better than that for sure.
And it's so true, right?
Because
you when you're in entrepreneurship game, you know, I like the aspects that you said, you
know, if they're new dads, for example, and people can give advice from an entrepreneur
standpoint, because, yeah, there's plenty of advice out there if maybe you're working like
a nine to five, is, you which is fine.
But from the entrepreneurship side, it's, how do you balance raising a family, building a
business and everything in between?
Like no one has a book for that really.
And so getting advice from people, just being able to talk about it would be just a
massive value add.
And the groups that I've joined in the past, it's been like transformational for me as
long as obviously people in there are of the right caliber, say.
And it's been massive for me.
So I think it's a really good initiative for sure.
Yeah, and our, like I said, we're, we're at the real infant stages of this.
but our goal is really for, you know, if there's, if we have five, 10, 15,000, whatever it
is, people that wind up joining this group, there's going to be so many different aspects
of things that people, things that we're not even thinking about at the moment, you know?
And so the goal is to be able to grow that way, to give people the opportunity.
you know, if they want to learn,
Maybe it's just life skills.
You know, there's a lot of men out there that don't have mentors.
They don't have people that they can turn to and say, Hey, I want to emulate what that
person's doing.
Um, and may not even be life.
just may, it may just be business.
may just be life, you know?
And so the goal really is just to try and just encapsulate all those different areas and
figure out how to, how to make that work long-term.
And our goal wasn't to compete against other, uh,
there was a guy I spoke to that that was a, works with CEOs, you know, he's a, he's a
leadership guy, works with executives.
And the cool part was, is I told him, was like, we're not competing against you.
If anything, this is a platform for you to be able to, to potentially find new clients,
but then also give, you know, jump on a call once a, once a month.
And there may be some kid from, you know, wherever it is that just listens to something
you say and it clicks, you know?
And so it's, it's a
Our goal is to kind of lift all those other groups up by giving us kind of a place for
everybody to go to.
Yeah, definitely.
No, I think it's great mission.
I think it's going to do very well.
Can people find this out now if they want to sign up for a wait list at all, or what's the
plan moving forward when you come to release it?
I'll be honest, we have a call tonight and that was actually something that was on my
list.
We're in the process right now of finding our first like 10 advisors and making sure that
those we're trying to find guys in different, you know, different areas of expertise.
And so that's kind of the first step and just getting a lot of our content in the, the, in
the learning center more or less.
But yeah, that is going to be something that we're going to
we're going to come up with is just kind of somewhat of a quick form wait list that, you
know, everybody can kind of start getting ready for when we actually launch this thing.
So it'll be exciting.
yeah, that will be coming that we'll have available.
Well what I'll do is, by the time this is out I'm sure there'll be something there so
we'll put whatever link it is in the description below so if people want to sign up then
they definitely can.
And where else can people find you if they wanted to learn more about some of work that
you do or follow just your journey overall.
Yeah, so I my website, is dbimpact.com.
If there's, from an investor standpoint, we have infinitewealthfund.com.
That is where our fund is located and you can sign up to become a, if you're an accredited
investor, you can sign up and create a profile in our system there.
And then the Men's Collective currently is on the DB Impact website.
So.
That is where that's going to be located and that will eventually become its own, I think,
monstrosity.
So we're going to pull that out of DB Impact and make it its own thing.
yeah, social media as well.
Amazing.
Well, thanks for taking the time today to come on the show.
I've loved this conversation very much aligned in a lot of the work that we do.
So it's good to have that conversation.
Yeah, I appreciate your time and thanks for asking me to come join you.