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Salam, everyone, and welcome to the very first episode of the Unfiltered Faith Podcast. I'm your host Saabreen. And today, I'm very excited to introduce my very first guest on this podcast, my sister, Aminah. Okay. So on this episode, we're gonna just jump into something kinda controversial, something that me and Aminah and the rest of my sisters have talked about a lot in our household, which is why there's so many, you know, Muslim women kind of embracing this form of modern or western feminism instead of looking towards their religion for the liberation, I guess, they want.
Host:Right? So, anyways, I'm just gonna start off with asking you what are your thoughts on the subject.
Speaker 2:Salam, guys, I'm Aminah, and thank you for joining us. And, yes, this is a topic that me and my family and my friends have talked about so much. I think it's a hot topic in the world, like, dis like, disregarding the Muslim world, but especially in the Muslim world because we have so many issues. And I think social media is just like this like, what do you think about social media, Sabo? Like, I just people are always fighting in the comments.
Speaker 2:People are always arguing with each other. There's always, like I don't know. I personally think
Host:Why why do you think why do you think there are like, why is it why do you think feminism is is such on the rise? But especially, I think we've seen we both were raised Muslim in a in a very practicing household, were raised around a really good Muslim community here in Houston. And now we've
Speaker 2:seen Uh-huh.
Host:I mean, it is good. I mean, to be raised.
Speaker 2:Okay. It is good, but there's a lot of
Host:There are issues. Of course. There are issues. But, like, but, like, why why do you think we've seen, like, this kind of rise in, like, in, like, embracing, like, this sort of liberation that so many women feed into. Oh my god.
Host:Like, men are so bad. Men are this, men are that. Don't listen to your man. You know, don't be submissive. Like, you know, all these these things that we hear, like, oh, yeah.
Host:Women empowerment and blah blah blah blah. Like, yes. But you know who also gave women empowerment 1400 years ago? Our Prophet did. Right?
Host:But we don't we don't look at that history. We think that so much of this liberation comes from the west and that we've we've
Speaker 2:beaten to to everyone. I agree. Everyone. And I don't I think it's it mainly happens to Muslim women in the west. I think the subject is not black and white.
Speaker 2:It depends. Yeah. It depends on where you're raised. It depends on your experiences. It depends on your good your especially your bad experiences, particularly with men.
Speaker 2:It just depends. Now there's a lot of reasons why women would turn to modern feminism. Number 1, I would feel like would be their culture, unless you're, like, a convert. I mean, it depends on the culture you come from. Me and Saabreen are we're Pakistani and Burmese.
Speaker 2:But, like, you know, like, Arab culture, Middle Eastern culture, Desi culture. You know, we we make so many things normalized in our culture that we say is Islamic, but it's not. Yeah. It's not. I agree.
Speaker 2:And I think that it it it there's a lot of good things about our culture, but there's also a lot of bad things. Like, a man can do whatever they want, usually. Yeah. And a woman is, like, scrutinized for everything. But that's not only in our culture.
Speaker 2:That's in society as well. That's what I've learned since being a woman. You're judged for everything. You're damned if you are. You're damned if you don't.
Speaker 2:Okay? I think culture, number 1. Okay? Women feel, maybe feel stuck, maybe. But the way And the but again, it depends on the way you're raised.
Speaker 2:Okay. I think some woman feels stuck in their household or in their culture. You can
Host:say school's
Speaker 2:And then they see but wait. They see the western world and, oh, freedom. Oh, that's what I want. That could be one reason. Okay.
Speaker 2:Luckily, we weren't raised like that. Yeah.
Host:That's what I'm gonna say. It goes back to how to how you were raised. Alhamdulliah, I mean, our parents were brought up here, so they weren't as cultural. I mean, they they definitely have cultural things about them, obviously. But but to be honest, our nani, nana, and our dadi and dada, are not very
Speaker 2:are grandparents.
Host:They're grandparents. They're not they're not very, like, traditional either. Like like, I mean, they yes. They are traditional, but, like, they, they didn't put culture above religion. Yes.
Host:Alhamdulillah. They did not.
Speaker 2:They did not.
Host:I think that's the reason why we are the way that we are. But I think a lot of women, they're raised in households where it's very misogynistic and like the like very misogynistic culturally where like the woman does everything. Like, if you're the oldest daughter, then, like, woah. Like, forget it. Like, you're just so you're screwed.
Host:You're screwed, honestly, because everything's on you. You're required to do everything. The the men and the boys and the brothers in the house will need to help out around the house or help out in the kitchen sometimes. And I'm not saying that, like, they have to do everything, at all, but it's a it's a it's a life skill. Right?
Host:It's just expected the woman takes all that burden. So whenever they see, like, oh, yeah. I know it. Women's empowerment, feminism, this is wrong. You know, your man should be doing this, this, and this.
Host:Right? Like, I do get why they feed into that. It is because of, you know, if they're raised, like, with proper Islamic values, then they maybe wouldn't think that way. But I also think that as an adult, when you turn into adult, it is your job to study your own religion and to and to, like, understand how you were raised. You you're supposed to question yourself and be like, hey.
Host:Was the values that I was given as a kid, was I raised that way? And am I doing am I rebelling against it? And is that right to rebel against? Like, that's what I mean. You have to think No.
Speaker 2:I agree. I agree. You have to do your due diligence, especially as you get older. But I also think that, another point I wanna bring up is that I don't think feminism started off as a bad thing. I I think it was, like, ness at least in the Western world.
Speaker 2:Actually, I don't know. You have to do your research in in history. I Islam does give Muslim women all that its rights. Okay? Like, our Prophet, Peace Be Upon Him, liberated us.
Speaker 2:But but I don't wanna just, like, blame men all the time because I I don't wanna be on this, like, I hate men train because I I think there there are amazing men out there. But, honestly, they they took away our rights. They wanna Mhmm. They, you know, at the end of the day, they were they were still, like, you know, in the Arabian Peninsula. And and after our prophet, peace be upon him, died or passed away, you know, some people went back not went back to their old ways per se, but you can't it's very hard to change your roots.
Speaker 2:And, I can't think of it at the top of my head, but I took a woman's fiqh class, and it was talking about how, like, Islam is not the problem. It's it's people's miss like like, uneducate Islam is not the problem. It's people who are miseducated. Is that a word?
Host:Yeah. Are uneducated. And they're not educated enough. I took I took a woman's
Speaker 2:class, and it really opened my eyes because, my teacher, she was saying like, oh, you know, Islam is not the problem. Islam liberates a Muslim, and it protects us. It gives us rights. There's so many rights that you're not even aware of because, like, the Muslim community doesn't even teach you about it. They low key no.
Speaker 2:Not low key. They high key gatekeep it. But also, like, it's it's when after the our Prophet, Peace Be Upon, passed away, you know, people, they didn't go back to, like, Jahaliyah ways, but, like, they not everyone, but some men and women just, like, you know, it's really hard to remove all your roots if you came from a certain lifestyle in a certain way. You can change, but it may you may still have rev like, remnants of it. You know?
Speaker 2:I forgot the story, but she told me the story of, this Muslim. Like, it was, like, I think 30 or 20 years after the prophet, peace be upon him, passed away. And it was like this woman I I know I'm not, like, giving references. I just I'm we're just this is just a conversation, so I'm just trying to remember what I learned. I don't know if you know the story, but there's this woman and, she wanted to leave her house.
Speaker 2:And her husband was like, no. You can't leave the house. And her husband's father was a sahaba, I think, of the Prophet, Peace Be Upon Him. And, again, I could have to, like, double check this. And this is just a conversation.
Speaker 2:I'm not any scholar or anything. Like, do your due diligence and research, but this is what I've learned. And, her her her husband's father so her father-in-law got mad at him. She was like, the prophet didn't, like like, the prophet allowed women to leave their house, especially if they're going to the masjid. I think she wanted to go to the masjid, and he was like, no.
Speaker 2:You can't go. And she was like and the and her father-in-law was like, don't stop acting like the times of Jahiliyyah. I have to, like I don't wanna the the gist of the story is okay. I'm not I may not I may not be saying the whole story correctly and forgive me because I, I took this class like 2 years ago and I'm I'm forgetting everything. But I think the gist of the story is to show that, like, even, like, Islam gave us rights, but a lot of the times, the society that this Islam was in or brought was brought up upon or, like, the men in it or even the women as well would how do you explain it?
Speaker 2:Would would What do you mean? Like, take away their rights?
Host:Well, they wouldn't tell them what their rights are, I guess. They wouldn't be aware of what their rights are. I think I think that's the right thing to say.
Speaker 2:Well, look at the story I just said. Right? She wanted to leave her house, and her husband said you can't. Okay. Now there's, like, protectiveness if you if your wife is leaving, but then there's just, like, control.
Speaker 2:Right? Mhmm. I, like and her her father-in-law got mad at her husband saying you can't just you can't, like, can't you she she is a free woman. She's free to do what she like, especially if she's not doing anything bad. I think I could be wrong.
Speaker 2:She wanted to go to the masjid. Mhmm.
Host:Or even if
Speaker 2:there's a prophet with there's a story of Omar Ibn Khattab with his wife. Right? She wanted to go to the masjid. Yeah. And he was like, no.
Speaker 2:You can't. And she's like, that was the time of Jahiliyyah. You can't do that. Like, I'm going to the masjid. It's my right.
Host:Mhmm. And so So this is everything that she learned from. This is not just our random Random interpretation.
Speaker 2:But but I could be wrong. Yeah. If the story about 30 years Yeah. Past the, after the prophet peace be upon him,
Host:I could be after after the story. Everything we're saying Allah knows best. First of all, everything we're saying, we're not saying we're claiming to hide. It's a 100% true. Allah knows best.
Host:This is, from stories that we've heard from from scholars and from teachers.
Speaker 2:But my point is my teacher told me this story what for the point of making that, You know? It shows you how, yeah, women had, like, like, Islam liberates women, but society and a lot of men, not all the men, would try to, like, restrain our rights Yeah. Restrain us in a way. And and that gives me to point 2, which is, I know I'm talking a lot. My second point is that, you know, I don't like blaming men for everything, and and it's not all their fault.
Speaker 2:I think a lot of it stems from society and and and being, uneducated, but it's also men. Like, again, look at the red pill community. You know? Like, when you just
Host:Yeah. We're gonna have a whole other separate conversation about that, but then in the next episode, that's part 2.
Speaker 2:Islam is so beautiful, and I've like, I'm only 20. I've had my own personal experiences with this. And then I also hear so many women who had Islam weaponized against them. And it's so common. It's so common.
Host:That brings to my to my next point is how hadith and religion have been used to justify oppression and violence against women despite Islam being completely against it. We also we understand that throughout history, no matter what, before Islam, after Islam, women will always be used as as as just be used Yes! To control everything. For for to to to justify violence, all this stuff. Right?
Host:There is a reason why when when Islam came down, there are so many regulations for women. People tend to look at the Quran and they're like, oh, it's, like, very male centric and it's very male. But it's but the the truth is Allah wanted to ensure and and give us so many protections, and he's telling the man. Because at the end of the day, it is the man's job to maintain and protect us. Unfortunately, just like all of human history, people will, men will take that and abuse that and abuse that power.
Host:Right? They'll abuse it. Too much or they'll do nothing at all. All they're just or or they're just be too open with the woman, which is wrong as well, which is a kind of an issue that we're also saying today. Men also take,
Speaker 2:like okay. You should have gira over your Yeah. Your woman. Protective jealousy. But then people take it to another level.
Speaker 2:Like, you know, if you go on on TikTok, and it's a man and his wife and a Muslim, and then they'll be like, oh, dayooth can't throw that word out like it's nothing. It's just severe. If you go to the Middle East and you call a man a dayooth, it's like you can't just say that.
Host:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And, like and also, like, it gives me, like, where are people's manners? Like, like, you go to social media, and it's like, oh and the only thing people talk about is women. Oh, you're doing this wrong. Your hijab is this. Oh, shut
Host:up. That's what I mean. So Shut up. So, like, there's, like, you
Speaker 2:just like, if you just, like, why do you wanna talk about women all the time?
Host:They bring up they bring up the hadith where it says, like, most women will go into the hellfire or whatever. Right? Always always you always hear that. Or there's the other hadith that the Prophet said that a woman's intelligence is, like, 2 times less. So, less than a mania I'm talking about.
Host:Right? There's something like that. There's there's one that says that, but there's there's context to everything. Right? And then when you don't, first of all, like, there are so many hadiths out there.
Host:The ones that, like, let sound the worst, especially, remember, it's translated to English. In Arabic, it's gonna sound a lot more different. Right? Those are the ones that people are gonna take and run with. But, also, this goes back to a lack of being educated.
Host:Right? It goes back to lack of being educated. Because imagine if you're a woman. Right? And you hear that in this religion that the that the the the the leader of your religion said that a woman's intelligence is 2 times less.
Host:I might be might be misquoting stuff astugfirallah like, what a man is. Right? And you hear that on most, you know, most, people in the hellfire are women. Whatever. Right?
Host:Of course, you're gonna be like, oh my goodness. Like, naturally, you're gonna be like, I don't wanna be part of this religion. Why why why would I follow this? Right? And that's why then then you see why they flock to, like, feminism and why they flock to oh, like, people are giving them a solution.
Host:Like, the the this movement is getting a solution. Oh, yeah. No. You're Empowered No.
Host:You're just as equal and blah blah blah. So number 1, we have to understand understand and not be so harsh on why these women are following it. Right? There's a humanity. We have to be humane.
Host:I'm not saying it's correct, but we have to be humane. Number 2, there is context to everything. There's context to all these hadith. This Islam will never flat out and and say that women deserve to women are less intelligent. Women are women deserve less.
Host:Women it's okay to be violent against women. No. Of course. Now we know that. Right?
Host:But, unfortunately, so many hadith have been skewed to, you know, justify violence against women.
Host:Another point I
Speaker 2:wanna bring up is how there are different types of hadiths. Right? There's Sahih, and then there's . I took a class on this as well. I didn't go through my notes again.
Speaker 2:Okay? But, and, again, I'm not claiming I'm some scholar or anything. I'm just this is just a conversation again. I did learn, though, as you read more Da'eef which means more weakly narrated, they're not completely authentic. They get stricter on women.
Speaker 2:I don't know if you've heard of that. I I don't know if you've heard that. The more, like, the more that like, if you go into the line of hadiths that are that are Da'eef, it becomes more there's more rulings on women, whereas Sahih hadiths aren't. And what I found interesting, I'm kinda going off topic, was I also recently learned that there's more Sahih Hadiths on men's awrah than women's awrah. It's not funny.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Host:But they don't talk about that. No. Because no. But my
Speaker 2:point is is that, like, I'm not saying, like, like, don't talk about women ever. But why is that, like, the only topic that men and women wanna talk about online. Leave us alone. Thing is is that and and and as as I you know, like, I've I'm 20, but I've lived in Spain for 2 years. I've lived on my own.
Speaker 2:I've seen the world. Alhamdullilah been blessed to travel. And what I've noticed is just that as a woman, you're just, like and people will call me a feminist for this is not about that. I you're, you're damned if you are, and you're damned if you don't. Like, I don't know if you realize that, Sabo.
Speaker 2:My sister Saabreen has, lived in New York for 2 years. And it's just like and my dad told me from a young age, Abu told us, like, as a woman, you're gonna be judged more. It's just the fact because men men get a pass for everything because they're a man. And what's sad is that Islam came to eradicate those stuff. Allah didn't make us the same.
Speaker 2:Men and women are different. We have women have advantages over men and and and some some and men have advantages over women. Okay? But we complete each other. We're not supposed to compete with each other.
Speaker 2:We complete each other. But that doesn't also mean that you have to be stuck in a specific gender role as well. Do you understand what I'm trying to say? Like like, and I think if you don't align with that specific gender role that people think is, like like, how do you say it?
Host:What do you
Speaker 2:mean? Untangible, then you're doing something wrong. And this is not only Islam. Right? This is the this is, in society in general.
Speaker 2:Just know something. I apologize if we sound like we're going back and forth and all over the place. This is the first podcast, and it isn't honestly It's my first podcast. It's a conversation, though, at the same time. Yeah.
Speaker 2:But, the two points that you brought up was, okay, culture, the way you're raised, and, citing men. I think those are the two reasons.
Host:Why so many women are following with liberalism versus Islam?
Speaker 2:But but and I used to, like, hate on them. I don't have I guess I have a little bit of sympathy for them because, like, now some people jump on it because it's a ban on it.
Host:I mean, I
Speaker 2:have some people. Some people go into it because so you know my experiences. I'm not gonna disclose that out. I know. But I've personally have had Islam weaponized against me by men.
Speaker 2:Okay? And it made me, astugfirallah not like my religion. I never stopped praying. I never did any of that. But it it's like you it's when you keep hearing the same BS over all the time by men and women, okay, it's really hard to differentiate religion from people, which is why You can.
Host:You have to do the diligence. Like, overall, you have to like, that's the thing. You you don't know what someone's going through. You need to be sympathetic with them. And, like, I like listen.
Host:I'm not ever saying that this is okay because I personally make it very clear. I hate hate modern feminism. I hate I don't like saying that I am not a feminist. I'm not a modern day feminist by any means. I think it's disgusting.
Host:I think it's backwards. The fact that this whole 50 50 b s splitting bills and, you know, and and, you know, opening up doors for men and, like, trying to take on the role of a man. No. Like, I'm a woman. I'm created to be a woman.
Host:Allah created me this way and have certain needs and wants. So many women today are, like, so mad that they don't have a really, really good guy or, like I mean, the truth is there's there's a sparse crop of good men today, let's just be honest, and good women. I'll say that even too at this point. And women necessarily. I think they're just hidden.
Host:Yeah. That's true. They they probably are women. Probably, sorry. Hidden.
Host:Not women. Probably hidden. But, like, you I I I don't like it, but we have to understand that I think it always goes back to a lack of education. Why do we know so many men's scholars, but we don't know we don't know any women's scholars? Why is there such a lack of encouragement for women to be educated in Islam, and we'll only expect men to, which is so wrong.
Host:We should encourage women to be muftis and to be scholars and to be and to be, Ustadas. Like, we don't we don't see that anywhere in the west. Maybe maybe it's more in the Middle East, but we it's not really encouraged for women to be educated into even know about their rights. Right? And so I feel like if they were, then we wouldn't have so much of this issue.
Host:But also at the same time, like, we and the west are so susceptible to marketing and to movements. Right? Like, I feel like also in this a new topic now,
Host:a lot of, you know, like, marketing and a lot of, like, political movements, like, liberal movements. Like, they'll tokenize the hijab and use Muslim women and, like, on their posters and, like, use Muslim women and speeches. And, like, they'll have Muslim women even speak on their behalf and stuff like that to show that, oh, yeah.
Host:Like, we're all on the same side. We're all on one side. Yeah. Like, we all support yeah. Like, yeah right.
Host:As soon as we bring up, as soon as I I if I were to tell these people, yeah. No. I don't wanna work. And I don't want to work. I don't want to work.
Host:I am really hoping, Inshallah, may Allah bless this podcast. This can be my main source of income so I can work for myself. But being the main income holder, like, I don't want that. If I were to tell these woman, yeah. No.
Host:I don't want that. I I like listening to my husband for a lot of decisions because I I trust him, and I wanna take that burden off of me. They're gonna flip. They're gonna they're gonna turn on me. They'll only want you if you follow their rules, if you follow their laws, if you follow their their movements and whatever.
Host:Look at what's happening right now in Palestine. May Allah, may we see a free Palestine in our lifetime, inshallah, ameen. But, like, look at what's happening. All of these people who are supposedly were so pro Muslim women and who are so feminist. Where is your feminism now when all these women are losing their children?
Host:Where is your feminism now whenever they're starving? Where's your feminism now when they don't have access to, having pads or or tampons or or or hygienic products? Right? Where's your humanity now? Right?
Speaker 2:It's for white people.
Host:Well, we know that.
Speaker 2:Obviously, feminism only benefits white people.
Host:But White women specifically. You know? Like, where is your where is your feminism then? No. Everyone's silent.
Host:Whenever we are speaking about about an issue that actually affects us in our community, they don't care because they only care about their agenda. They only care about pushing their narrative. We're just tokens. We're just we're just used. Like, we that's that's what I mean.
Host:That's why this woman following Western feminism bothers me so much because at the end of the day, this movement, these politicians, the people that create this movement, that are headed this movement, they don't care about us. They only use it to tokenize you and to make money and to market you. That's it. I will say, like But
Speaker 2:can I again, let me go back to my point? We wouldn't have a lot of the rights we have now if it wasn't for mod for not modern feminism. We wouldn't have the rights we had now. If it wasn't for feminism, it
Host:already shows you how backwards the West
Speaker 2:already was. I agree. But, like like, Islamic the Islamic world wasn't perfect. Now I've lived in Spain, and that used to be Andalusia, which is, like, the Islamic, like, Muslim Spain. Okay?
Speaker 2:They had it for almost a 1000 years. Muslims ruled over that land. And when you learn about, like, you know, like, they're they're the peak of of education, science, like, everything. Okay? Geography, whatever.
Speaker 2:When you learn about women in that society, they were free. Like like like, they have so many rights. They were educated. They were scholars. They were doctors.
Speaker 2:The first woman, in the first university that was created by a woman in Fez in Morocco. You know, it's just like and and and and this has nothing to do with Islam, but then you go to villages in Pakistan and in Afghanistan, and you have men who say, oh, women can't be educated. And it's obviously that's a load of crap. It's not true. But my point is is that it it like, when you it's
Speaker 2:I think all of this stuff is tied together.
Speaker 2:It has to
Host:do with colonialism. It has to do with, purposely being, you know, lack of education. It it's all tied to something. Right? Like, the Muslim Ummah right now is so is so, just separated.
Host:We're so fractioned. We're we're we allow western powers to tell us what to do. We should be one Ummah, but we're not. We're the fact that we're we're in a state right now in the world where where we don't have an empire. We don't have a Khalifa.
Host:We're all in different states. Right? And we've allowed that to happen. And it's because we've given up, who we are as Muslims, and we've we've given the the for this dunya as, you know, the leaders of the world. Right?
Host:And it it all leads it's it's all connected. Right? It's that's what I mean. So, like, you know, like, yes, feminism, going back to your point, and, yes Aminah, feminism was good in, like, maybe, like, the thirties, forties, fifties. We really didn't have rights, bro.
Speaker 2:No. No.
Host:We didn't. And I agree and I agree and I agree, but do you know who had rights? Muslim woman. Muslim woman for all for most of history have had rights. It's always men and and and uneducated people that that try to control women.
Host:And that's what I'm trying to say is that,
Speaker 2:like I think sort of the downfall of the Muslim Ummah was colonialism. And my aunt
Host:told me,
Speaker 2:my aunt has a master's degree in Islamic studies, and she said, colonialism ruined everything. Now granted, women have always been oppressed. It's just a fact. Okay? Even if if it's in a good society.
Speaker 2:Okay? Because, again, I said this one in the beginning. We're damned if we are. We're damned if we don't. Okay?
Speaker 2:That's just like, I just that's just what I've learned. Okay? And, unfortunately, that's the sad reality of it. And it's it's not only with Muslims. It's the world.
Speaker 2:Okay? But but and I think that goes into woman like, modern day feminism having that attitude of I just don't give a crap what anyone says or thinks I can do whatever I want because it's it's like put up their done, because because they're
Host:done. I understand. But You have to be intelligent about it, though.
Speaker 2:I agree. I agree. But my point is is that colonialism ruined everything and made people backwards. Even desi culture, right?
Host:Like, Pakistan comes from Hindu
Speaker 2:culture. No. But It does. I know. But that was also affected by the British, bro.
Host:Yeah. Yeah. I Agree.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Like, the, like, the Europeans were the most misogynistic. They thought women were freaking witches and would kill them. What a load of crap. I know it was this Salem witch trials and or whatever.
Speaker 2:If a woman seemed, I don't know, just intelligence. There's a lot
Host:of tangents in this podcast. It's okay. It's okay.
Speaker 2:There's a lot
Host:of conversations. No. But it's
Speaker 2:a lot no.
Host:No. No.
Speaker 2:But my my point is is that it is there's a lot of factors, but I think the going back to this point, I think that modern feminism didn't start off as bad things, and we reap the benefits of it. You can't deny that. However however, my issue is to say that It got it got extreme.
Host:My issue is that is that is that, like, we see, like, the west as, like, the beacon of equality and of empower women's empowerment when it is so wrong because their idea of equality is men and women are exactly the same, which I don't believe in equality. I don't believe in equity. Because we're different. Me too.
Host:Because women can't do the same things that men can do and men cannot do what women can do, and the west completely annihilates this. That's what I don't get. So, like, we look at the west as, like, this beacon of hope and, like, the rest of the world is just backwards and tribal and trash. Right? Like, everything that Muslims do and what we're taught is jihadist and wrong and blah blah blah blah, which jihad is even a bad word.
Host:That's how it showed you how uneducated people in the most educated place in the world, which is the west are. We had the best universities, right, are so uneducated. Anyways, so, like, it it it bothers me that we see them as this beacon of hope. And I agree. Like, I think if we're gonna look at feminism as an ideology in the west in the thirties, forties, fifties, it was good because it to this woman didn't have rights rights that, that that that, Islam granted to women 1400 years ago.
Host:Women couldn't even open up credit cards. They couldn't have properties in their own name. They we had so many more rights, right, in these supposedly backwards communities that the west didn't have for years and years and years. So you have to wonder why feminism I as an ideology even came up in the first place. It's because so many of the women didn't have rights, and that's the truth.
Host:They didn't. If you look at, like, a show like Bridgerton, right, which I love bridgerton. Like, every let's just be honest. Every girl loves bridgerton. It's such a it's a it's a really good show.
Host:Right? But even look at looking at their society. Right? Like, women couldn't, like, choose, to be honest, their man if their husband or their brother said, oh, you're gonna marry that man? They had to marry them.
Host:They didn't have a choice. They had to that blows my mind, oh my god. The woman had to give a dowry, astaghfirullah-adheem. Oh my goodness. Can you imagine that giving are you the prize? Sir, no.
Host:Like, that's so backwards. That's what that's what I mean. They had to give the dowry. They they women didn't even have the right to go to universities
Speaker 2:I know. I know. I know. I know. People do.
Speaker 2:Crazy.
Host:And a Muslim woman found the first university.
Speaker 2:You know?
Host:You know?
Speaker 2:I have a really crazy like, story. When I was in Spain, this idiot guy, he was like, he told me. He was like, do you think women in the Middle Eastern are more educated, or are people in the West? I said the Middle East, and he laughed. I said, do you not know anything?
Speaker 2:I said, sorry. But it's just true. He was just such an idiot. Okay? He I was like, we literally created the first universities.
Speaker 2:Americans don't even know geography. Shut up, bro. American Americans are sheep. Okay? No.
Speaker 2:They don't want anything. Okay?
Host:They don't even know where China is on a map . No. Honestly No. Actually, they wouldn't.
Speaker 2:But it's but no. But you're right. But, I also think another thing is that, like, the Muslim community is is the worst. Okay? I honestly, this is an unfiltered podcast.
Speaker 2:K. Maybe I'm a hater, but I Islam is a communal religion. Okay? And and not not all communities suck. Obviously, that's not true at all.
Speaker 2:A community is a is a necessity for people to thrive. To an extent, I don't like being involved in or in the community because it's very toxic. And, you know, you would think Muslims would have each other's back, but we're divided because we fight each other the most. And it's ridiculous. And especially for women, like, like, just like again, I told you.
Speaker 2:I'm gonna go to this point again. We're damned if we are and we're damned if we don't. Like, Muslim men and women are be so quick to judge a girl if, for example, she takes off of her hijab. It's none of your business. Okay.
Speaker 2:Yes. It's between her and Allah. Leave her alone. Or if, like, like,
Host:I'm gonna be starting on the topic of of men and their opinion on hijab. It bothers me
Speaker 2:a lot. But, like no. But it's like it's like also, I just feel like, like, why why do Muslim men a lot of them. Okay. I don't wanna I don't wanna, like, generalize because I've also met amazing Muslim men.
Speaker 2:Okay? But why do so many Muslim men, especially online? Why do they hate women? It's like they're scared of us. Because, you know, women are very powerful.
Speaker 2:Allah created us, like, not weaker than men, but we have we have different abilities than men can't. You know, like, our our the energy that a woman gives off is just way more powerful than men. Again, we have the power to bring life. You know, you're you like, it's so disgusting how some people in the Muslim community talk to Muslim women when this is a future future these are the future mothers of your Ummah. Like, what's your issue, bro?
Speaker 2:And I'm and and I I you if you wanna talk about the disrespect for men as well, that there's that too. I agree. I hear men have a lot of
Host:Next episode!
Speaker 2:That's that's that's another topic we can get into. But, the fact of the matter is that women are way more oppressed than men. It's just a fact. Okay? Like, you
Host:know In all of history, of course. But I do think for the first time in history, we're actually low key seeing, like, some men being oppressed. Like, I'm not even gonna lie because sometimes this feminism stuff is so ridiculous that, like, it it oppresses men and their rights. Right? We know we know people like I say, we know we know people who have been divorced.
Host:And according to the state law, even though they've been divorced for years, the man still has to pay the woman, not even child support, the woman money. Why? That makes no sense. I understand child support. But to pay the your ex wife for what reason?
Host:For no reason. Right? That's completely wrong. That's completely wrong. He's paying money to his ex wife for for for what?
Host:You know? Islam doesn't allow that. There's a, I believe, a period where he does have to, but then after that, he doesn't. Don't I'm not saying I'm not a scholar.
Host:Yeah. Alimony. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Host:Like, which is wrong. That's that's wrong.
Speaker 2:I agree.
Host:You know? And that deserves to keep his own wallet, but only on his children. You know? But Like
Speaker 2:And this it's it's it's a lot of issues. You can't really pinpoint it. And that's why I think this topic is really big. Our our podcast is all over the place because, like, it's it's really hard to pinpoint it. I think number 1, again, it comes from your personal experiences, how you're raised, society.
Speaker 2:Because society I don't think men are born bad or people are born bad. It depends on how you're raised and and with the environment that you come from. Okay? That that shapes your beliefs. Your Mhmm.
Speaker 2:Again, your subconscious mind grasps everything, and that shapes your who you are, your belief system, your personality, how you act, everything. Okay? It affects how you perceive things as well. That's why you have different opinions on different topics because, some scholars grew up in different areas. Right?
Speaker 2:That's another thing. And then I also think it comes from the biggest culprit I personally think is insecurity. I think people are just
Host:absolutely there is such oh my God. Next episode. Next episode. We're gonna we're we're we're gonna pause right here. But in the next episode, we're gonna talk about why so many Muslim men, go towards red pill podcasts.
Host:Why they listen to red pill podcast for masculinity. Right? There's a that is a very, very big, and I feel like controversial topic even more than feminism because that's a much more hot topic. Feminism has been like a really huge movement for a very, very long time in the west. But, yes, thank you, Aminah, for being my first guest.
Host:This is this podcast is not done. We're gonna have a part 2, so please stay tuned. Thank you. Thank you.
Host:Thank you all so much for joining me on this very first episode of the unfiltered faith podcast.
Host:I appreciate your patience as I navigate this new journey. I'm still getting the hang of it. This podcast is all about having hard, unfiltered conversations. I feel like in today's world, we all we often only hear one type of narrative, and we miss out on diverse perspectives and thoughts even if it may be controversial or, you know, don't really think the mainstream view. We frequently encounter a single story about minorities and Muslims and especially Muslim women.
Host:There is a misconception that Muslim women are, you know, were kind of timid or soft spoken or not opinionated. And I feel like this couldn't be further from the truth. We do have our own thoughts, feelings, and perspectives. My hope is that this platform becomes a space where we can share unapologetically and foster a better understanding of what's happening in the world and and and why we are the way that we are. So, anyways, thank you again for joining me on this first episode.
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