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Welcome to NBA School and the Basketball IQ Podcast! I am your host Charlie Lawrence, and if you want an educated breakdown of all things NBA, this is the place for you!
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Welcome to MBA school on the basketball IQ podcast. I'm your host Charlie Lawrence. I'm here to give an educated breakdown on all things NBA we are here for episode I think 1716 of the basketball IQ podcast. I'm your host Charlie Lawrence and markeith is back. So I'm so glad you said he just woke up. I need to keep saying hurry that March Madness season is here. Man Did you pick Oakland over Kentucky? No. Damn. Why would I do that? I think I feel like I heard one person did
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and they crazy
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but you see that one of the press conference he was like you know I might not make it to the league but I can compete like among is the guy that made 10 threes Oh,
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I was crazy. He made like seven threes and like the first time
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I was COACH CALIPARI stand him said they might get rid of him. Yeah, I've seen I just saw I literally before we receive record I just saw a clip of coward talking about him. And he's like, apparently he has a really bad quote from like five years ago where he was like, my job isn't to win national championships My job is to get the guys to the league when he's done a good job at that but you know, produce some good talent he does that's why he's my favorite they're my favorite college coaches because he's NBA guy. So we're gonna be playing a game called College check which is a direct ripoff it's not my name have a guest named Pierre on the numbers on the board slash through the wire podcast yeah
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I completely ripped it off for him. The first thought that their English the first half of the no cuts, we don't edit that. I'm human. The first half of the podcast will be that the other half will be an overall breakdown of the NBA as best and unexpected storylines. So I will start off with the player. It'll just we'll do a nice little warm up. You know, since it's on here, do you know what school John Stockton went to?
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John Stockton John Stockton boy
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um, usual quote, I'm human.
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The school is in my home state. So I didn't grew up in this part of the state but it's still there
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and went to Gonzaga with the desire. Yeah, here's the first superstar they went to Gonzaga. I'm not
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gonna lie to you. I don't even know what I even noticed.
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Because I was in Spokane, Washington. to
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Washington.
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Yeah, all right. You gotta give me one no. All right. Kevin, love UCLA. Peasy Come on, bro. I know we played with two all right. You got the we're going to there's going to be a pattern here with these you know where do your holiday went to school from Chatsworth, California.
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No. I was just talking about this.
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It didn't we have conversation or marketing about like, la high school guys. Yeah. We didn't talk about judo. We didn't. We went to Campbell Hall apparently in North Hollywood
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what the Kansas? No,
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no, he's not Paul Pierce. Did it go from LA to Kansas?
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We kept a close. Yeah.
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Really close. CCl, UCLA, UCLA he was UCLA. Yeah, Drew Holliday went to UCLA. He went to UCLA. I swear to God.
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You never hear him pop up in the conversations about UCLA.
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It was drafted in 2009. He was high school class. went to UCLA.
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know you're not gonna notice. All right. Talk to him. Troy Brown Jr.
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Former Laker Troy Brown Jr. for like one year giving me a conference you don't even know the conference back to Oregon go go Let me confirm this Troy brown for the go to Oregon my hated rival org No, he did this oh he went to Centennial Ohio and you know what he went to high school here?
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Yeah he from Vegas. I didn't know alright now I got a I did two star level guys alright well man you're basketball geek man so I'm gonna you know a lot information to make it hard for you alright
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Danny green Danny green blue blood
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I know you ain't got to do
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very close
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it's very close Lulu that Drake school
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that when I said do and I said very close to giant clue. By the way. This school is like two hour driving distance from Duke man I was gonna say something else but that would be a dead giveaway. So anyway, yeah. I don't know. Let me see what his I don't know if he was coached by the guy I'm thinking of but I feel like it was
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is it do you think if I gave you a hint of who else went there? Would that help a little bit?
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Probably not. But there was a conference. ACC
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ACC. I think I'm not going to conferences. Let me let me look at Carolina conferences. Alright, as I just said it into the mic. You didn't catch it. Nice.
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Blue. Yeah, North Carolina. Yep.
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Like what I said dude, because like UNC is like two hours away. Very close. All right. By the way, his Twitter is Instagram was Green Ranger 14. That's gonna point that
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was it going? Well, when we when we wasn't just talking about? Yeah, yeah. Demarcus Cousins.
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I'm a California guy. California. Kentucky boy, he played with John Walter. Yeah, I just seem to talk about on podcasts. That's why he talked about Callum pocket that
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was talking about them like they find a game at Kentucky. Did they win the national championship? Not a loss because they feed DeMarcus Cousins the ball.
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That's why they lost that's why they got sucked out
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by Joe Missoula Joe Mizzou. Boston Celtics coach played against him in March Madness.
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Oh my God. He did. Is he really valuable? I have a My best friend as a Celtics fan. He's gonna grow me for this. I didn't How old is he's 35
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So he would have been what 21 I just looked at his birth year All right. Do you think of a hit you with like so so far, you're one for three? You got Danny green but not drawdown? It's kind of you know,
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I'm a I'm an orthodox.
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Okay. Can you tell me what high school LeBron went to? St. Mary's All right. Okay. I'll do other two since that was a layup
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all right. No, no, I'm fit to pursue
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Chris Paul,
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Chris Paul.
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Pretty sure is another North Carolina school. I think there's another legendary Hall of Famer that went to the school to Yeah.
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Only schools in North Carolina there's a lot of there's
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Duke UNC Davidson which stuff went and then there's this one for like the four major
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Chris Paul, Tim
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Duncan also went here. I don't know what's crazy is what?
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I used to be a major Chris ball.
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I know I remember on the last last night we talked.
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In fact, don't notice
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It's crazy let me give you the initials of the school
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aid manager WF wait for ya. All right,
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I'll give you that one your 34345 I'll give you that one you know Christopher Emanuel Paul you know you know him and JJ Reddick had beef in college for Yeah. Chris Paul there's like a clip of him like punching JJ in the screen Chris was a wild boy was
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waters in the look markeith gave me
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let's see. Let's see the messy here.
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If you gave me like a super old day, I might. I might not get it. Or maybe
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DeAngelo Russell
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I wait. I first second. I thought I was thinking la school but I was like, Wait, hold on. Hold on. He's not you know one of them. Yeah. So you said DeAngelo Russell, how do I go and DEVIN BOOKER went to school. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Good luck. Yeah. Okay. Crying to the doubt. Kentucky here Willie Cauley Stein.
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Probably contact
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Darren Fox. Definitely could talk to him at a bio bell.
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He wants to get talking to Jesus che
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got the old
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name like top 10 dudes and ABA. Alright,
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we gotta get a roleplay All right. One of our very own Austin Reeves,
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Oklahoma State now you want the regular welcome
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bonus points Can you name the other college you went to we went to I just learned this as I'm looking at it I only thought he went Oklahoma to but apparently went to another heat
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transfer was it good to go no, no,
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no this is a D one school apparently RON BAKER went here
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let's state is Kansas is
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yeah, I'm not gonna get it. Yes. Apparently went to Wichita State first and then transferred Oklahoma. Have you ever heard him talk like on a podcast? He's like one of the whitest white guys I've ever heard. Yeah, talk a little bit talks about golf like constantly.
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When offseason he had like, grew his beard out he did not look like a Hooper.
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He looked like a country club member who's like I love that guy though. Love Austin. I'm gonna get a dirty wonder. My white Hooper seems we got
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Daniel Wieber. State
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in Utah. That was easy one. Yeah. Sorry. All right. You want to just do we have two minutes left? You want to just rattle off some and then I'll just name them all. Since I'm like, six or six right now. We Jordan and as most
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of you do. Yeah. Jordan hit me. Jordan. Yeah. Oh,
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this the most relaxed podcast episode ever. By the way. I'm gonna point out normally I'm getting intense at this point. This is like
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Jared
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didn't go to college. St. Benedict's prep school. Yeah. The Jordan is both come on. Give me No, he didn't go to No, he probably I think I thought he would have went to like St. John's or some some in New York
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College now though. Yeah.
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What? What was what school was that? The heat was at Texas a&m.
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Yeah, play golf. Where you put Yeah, okay. All right. Just talking about
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Josh Hart. Villanova. He's a New York knick you know, he went to Villanova. You know, you know, remember Did you hear what Matthew said yesterday marketing? Well, he was like, because I asked I was like if you were good enough to go to the league, what college would you go to? And I and I said Kentucky, just because I know I'm going to the lake bro. And then Matthew said Villanova because he's gonna get drafted by the Knicks the GM is gonna be like, No,
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I left plenty of time. Got any plan? 48 minutes.
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So you go So, in this sold in this hypothetical scenario, you're like a five star. Like you're the guy. So you're not are you going to do or are you going the route of like being like, like what James Wiseman did when he went to Memphis he's like I'm gonna be the superstar here
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honestly I want to compete in March Madness row so
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you want to compete more him? Yeah. So that would probably
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probably go to school you're probably going to like UNC, Arizona,
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Unc. Okay, Arizona respectively follow the footsteps of Gilbert Arenas. Another great shooter. And now we transition to an overall look. Since I haven't done traditional basketball content for the last month it feels like because straight game shows because it's not gonna lie. There's not a lot to talk about. That's been going on. It's not a lot. It's a lot of LeBron contract stuff. You're gonna get 60 million over three years or per year or so we're
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gonna do low hanging it up. We're thinking about
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hey, I want him to retire. I don't want to. I wonder as a LeBron fan, I want you to LeBron. LeBron.
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Please retire. LeBron. LeBron. Like as a Laker faithful I need two more years it two more. You can bring brawny
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you know I have this theory that like the league is gonna like tamper this to haven't be a Laker I swear to God, I swear I think it's gonna happen there's gonna be some some money exchanged something
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on the Bronco make it happen.
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So we're gonna go through the Eastern Conference just kind of general thoughts about contenders. pretenders. Obviously, the Boston Celtics, the hated rival, have been EA throwing everybody out there currently on a seven game win streak, the 32 and three at home.
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Man. I as Boston Philly.
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Like I said, my best friend is a Celtics fan and I keep talking to he's like, why don't you watch our games that often? I'm like, bro, y'all be having 25 Point leaves in the third quarter. Yeah. And other games are fun. Other than the Milwaukee game a couple days ago. Yeah. But that was without Jonas. So yeah. I mean, do you think anybody in the East has a real shot to beat them? Because I see only two. And the only reason they are the two is personnel reasons.
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Yeah, I was gonna say like, definitely. Milwaukee because the star power. Yeah. And the one
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time they played the Celtics with the honestly, November like, 33.
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So Cleveland definitely got a chance.
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Cleveland was like, nah, nah, ever. Mobley and Jared are gonna get out the game.
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Yeah. But you'll be surprised. You know, I'm saying like, I think Orlando is a good team. And he's, like, young competitive in it. Don't give up you know, so they can dogfight. Yeah. And
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they got Seattle got Apollo. So I'm repping. Orlando. Definitely.
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I just don't think the next would be healthy and time.
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That is like the that was my other option. Was the Knicks if they're healthier? Yeah. Because if you have watched the games against the Celtics, they're always really competitive with them. But Yep, sorry, Matt. But I just, I mean, you're probably as it goes, like if the season ended today, they would play Orlando in the first round. I think that's probably like Nixon five, or six.
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Because I haven't been to the playoffs. I'm going to experience Yeah, never do Indiana. So and
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then there's the Michael Myers of the NBA sitting at seven. My hero. They're just sitting in a
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way and I noticed waiting for the blades just started turning to all star team in playoffs. It turned out that the Golden State Warriors from brass it's as ridiculous as every year. Every year
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I saw a clip on a sorry pier, but I saw a clip of like PR from numbers on the board being like Jimmy Butler is the most overrated player in the league. Because there's no other guy that exceeds his performance in the playoffs. But then we don't give it about him in the regular season. We don't do that to anyone else. Like yo kitch we expect to perform well. Yeah, like everybody that has great playoff. We expect them to do well. But with Jimmy is like nah, nah, we just know it's blood average. 12 We don't care.
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But let's do it. We don't care. I'm here to tell you right now. We don't care.
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It's really like it's really crazy how much his numbers like increase in the playoffs like
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yeah, we looked at it. I want to hit how many So, how much points per game do you think go up in the playoffs? At least last year?
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Last year? Yeah, I think he like at least plus five plus five.
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Alright, so last year, Jimmy Butler averaged 23 points per game in the regular season a lot higher than I thought I was sliding on the playoffs. He averaged 27. Oh, it was close. Yeah. And then the year before that he also average 27. And then 2021. That was that weird year where they got there. picked by Milwaukee. Yeah. And he averaged 14. So wasn't a great Jimmy Butler. Stock season. But can we just point out how the Hawks have had like the biggest fall from grace, they started out the year really well. But now they're nine games both 500 and still in the 10 seed because of how God awful the bottom of the East is. Yeah. I've been playing without tray for a long time now. And still just sitting there waiting to get they might beat the bulls and make it to the second playing game. Which is the funny part.
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And I don't know how because like, they really like don't got nobody on that team for like, I mean, the Johnson Murray cool, but like Ian Johnson has been really fun. Oh, Jayla Johnson. And he had Dawson reuse like that. I was I was I was shocked. I first played a game. Oh, my phone. I'm like, I put it back down.
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I'm gonna go make something you know, the fifth and scoring or no?
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The fifth invoiceberry. That's the NBA for you. Yeah. No defense.
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They're also the team that Lucas scored 73 on. So you know,
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they given but they given up, right?
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Yeah. So you got to pause moments. Right. We're going for three next week. So you think Milwaukee's the only team like Boston and East?
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Yeah, but can't forget about Philly. Yeah,
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would have helped. Actually, I am gonna forget about them.
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Because it's gonna come back first round. It's over, but
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I'm gonna Jada Joelle and B fan. So I used to have my first shirt I got was like a LeBron heat shirt. And then the second one was a Jordan Beecher.
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Donabedian lifestyle. Yeah. He never went up this year, if you get but if he wasn't if he was healthy.
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Now we gotta learn really slim my water ball. It's just I feel like as I've like, I've watched his career ever since he averaged 20 his rookie year. And I just feel like it's the same story every year, just totally different. Where like, like, the first three years when they had Ben Simmons is like, look at this really young fun team. And I play Boston and get murdered. And then post Ben Simmons with Harden, it's like, look at the potential, pick and roll. And then they play Boston and get again. So if they get the eight seat and they play Boston again,
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if they play Boston, Missy Mize was like, gonna be like, they're
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not going to probably I mean,
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if that'd be my
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last 10 games, that's they're not trending upward. So I don't see them really getting into the top six. Unless Embiid somehow finds a remedy. Yeah. But moving on to the more exciting conference, this conference that actually has a few legit finals contenders. Yeah, I wrote a story about this team last week. No, not last week, two weeks ago about OKC Thunder, I have a new category on my blog called make the case where I have six contending teams. And I try to make the case for each of them to make finals. And OKC was my first week. And my case for them was that che and Chet had been so dominant on both sides of the ball. And I had a bunch of geek numbers to back it up. But my rebuttal to that argument, and what I feel like is going to be their downfall against Denver. Is that they're too reliant on them. Yeah. Cuz Chet is the the reason their defense is good. Like it is him. Yeah. And then Jalen Williams is decent. I mean, third isn't defender. The elude Dorsa good. Let me look up so I said there yeah, when shit so when shit is at the rim, defending player shoot 11% worse from before. And when he's not on the force, which is best in the league.
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I mean, seven footer. Good timing on his books.
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But my main rebuttal is that che doesn't have a reliable sidekick. offensively. It's kind of a me over committee after like, it's it's che and then it's whoever's authentic. Yeah, I feel like to succeed in the playoffs. You need like a reliable second person like Jamal Murray. Thanks. You know, honestly, after those two, it can be committee but I feel like you need to have at least two where it's like, go give me one.
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Nah, I'm sure But I feel like somebody, Jada. Yeah, I feel like it'd be that second. I think he could be big like, he's very consistent. Yeah, yes. But then I've been to the playoffs so you'll never know who's gonna show up who not. Yeah, but I got no chance to be never in the playoffs. No chance. No chance.
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How many games you think they'll take? Five so you think how many I'm saying how many games you think okay, see, we went 111 Neither caches good for one. You're gonna get your one game.
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I think it Denver's is too good. As a team. Yeah.
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There's not really much to say about them to the nuggets. It's the nuggets, just the nuggets. There 49 and 21. And I feel like they've been coasting, which is bullshit. I believe they could be like, have a Boston tiebreaker? Yeah, if they were really like, in that queue mode. Yeah,
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I feel like some games like they really don't try as much. Yeah. If you ever watched him play the Lakers. You see the difference? Yeah, or
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Boston or Boston game. It's like you got a different series against Celtic. So talking about Minnesota, we're gonna have for the last two and a half, three minutes a little event session. About our team a daily like we're playing well. We're playing well and good, but not good enough. We're
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not playing good enough. It's like we're, we're there. Rather, we take two steps back. And then we take three steps and it's
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really annoying that like the media coverage would be like, Look at look at the Lakers. Like,
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like, look like as soon as they say that we lose.
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We lose the match. Dammit. So does that LeBrons off for two games for some reason? I don't know.
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Ad kind of ankle injury.
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He's not really healthy though. She's been very sudden. He was like the healthiest. He's been in his life. Like, middle school, high school
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and the crazy part. He's still not 100% Yeah, no.
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Was fun. If you would have told me before the season like, hey, LeBron is going to play most of the games. And the Davis is not going to have that injury where he falls on his back and then holds his lower back for five minutes, and then goes back into the tunnel. And then like or announces or like ad out for three weeks. With the lower back contusion that hasn't happened. Right. We're ninth in the West.
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Yeah, we're
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normally we I think we'd be fourth. Well, but the the roleplayers have just been selling can bag the whole season. Like Dorian Briony Torian Prince box where as I've seen where he has zero
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zeros across the board. And there's also another stat where if he plays less than certain minutes, we undefeated.
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Is that a flag? Right? What we're gonna end on that I'm gonna find that step. There's no way is that Torian Prince minutes. Step. Is that Is it like certain is under remember the number? I think he was under 20 minutes. Sure. Oh my god. You found it. Oh my god. Oh my god, Darwin. Darwin. I'm the new assistant coach. When Torian principle is under 25 minutes, which has happened 13 times 13 wins. Zero. That's 13 Oh, when this mother doesn't play paper that is crazy. But I don't know why. I think I know why. Darvin likes him so much. But because he played them Hawks. Darwin used to mean a system with hogs. Yeah, Darwin likes guys that played defensive. Don't do anything else for some reason. Yeah, like really like some
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Darwin, Darwin, Darwin he He bugs me
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breathe. The rockets. Rockets. Rockets.
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On a rise bra. That's something to look out for.
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But I'm just saying where it'd be the wizard choice.
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In a plate spurs. Yeah, so I wish we got a lineup like that. Yeah, imagine we got that right now. We might be 56
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On that note, we're gonna end episode 16 or 17 of the basketball IQ podcast Mark Keith was a pleasure having you on
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it was a pleasure man. Darwin call timeout or even called
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Darwin. Don't play Torian Prince and call timeouts. Please. Hi, this is Charlie's Dad. Thank you for listening to the basketball IQ podcast. Thank you all so much for listening to this episode of the basketball IQ podcast. And Remember kids, it's all about
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