Off the Record

Andrew aka DJ Lazuli interviews Brooklyn-based grunge rock band Superbloom at The Cave in Chapel Hill

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00:00
DJ Lazuli
Hello, everyone. This is Andrew from WKNC 88.1 FM. I am joined here with Superbloom here in the Cave at Chapel Hill, North Carolina. Why don't all of you tell me who's here and what you play in the band?

00:17
Matteo Dix
Hey, Andrew, it's Matteo here. I play drums.

00:21
Brian DiMeglio
Hey, I'm Brian. I play bass guitar.

00:25
Tim Choate
This is Tim. I play guitar.

00:27
Dave Hoon
This is Dave, coming in from enemy territory. I sing and play guitar.

00:32
DJ Lazuli
Awesome. So I'm pretty big fan. I added a couple tracks off of debut a couple months back. I remember it was Planetary that sent it to me. Shout out to Planetary and great guys over there. First thing I wanted to ask, tell me about how Super Bloom came to form, specifically, how did y' all get the name?

00:56
Tim Choate
Yeah. So Dave and I have known each other since were kids, and we've been playing in bands together, like, basically all our lives. But when we moved to New York, we wanted to put a band together. So we put out. Actually, no. First we recorded a demo with a friend.

01:17
DJ Lazuli
Nice.

01:18
Tim Choate
And through that friend we met Brian. So we jammed with Brian, we hit it off, and then were looking for a drummer, so we put an ad out on Craigslist and Mateo replied to the Craigslist ad.

01:32
DJ Lazuli
It's always a good way.

01:33
Tim Choate
It's like a success story for Craigslist, I think.

01:36
DJ Lazuli
Yeah. It's one of the few good things I've heard off of Craigslist in the entirety of its existence. Essentially.

01:46
Matteo Dix
Shout out the dresser that I got.

01:47
Brian DiMeglio
A few months ago.

01:48
DJ Lazuli
Well, hey, that's. That's two things I've heard now. That's awesome.

01:51
Tim Choate
We. We met Mateo. Nobody got stabbed, which was good. And we hit it off, like, right away. And now, actually, Brian and Matteo live together and they just met through the band. So it's like everyone's super tight and it has just worked since then.

02:06
DJ Lazuli
Awesome.

02:08
Tim Choate
And the name came around. How did the name come around?

02:10
Dave Hoon
I don't know how he found it, but we mentioned, hey, Brian, after, what, like a week or two of hanging out?

02:18
Brian DiMeglio
Yeah,

02:20
Tim Choate
Yeah.

02:21
Dave Hoon
Like, what do you think of Superbloom? And Brian freaked out. He can reenact that right now if you want. Hey, Brian, what do you think of Superbloom?

02:32
Brian DiMeglio
That's the sickest fucking name I've ever heard. It's a great band name. It's still the best band name ever. Sorry, everyone else. It's amazing. Great job, Dave.

02:43
Matteo Dix
So when I. When I saw the Craigslist ad and the guys reached out to me, they. The band name was being touted as being, I think, low Places, like the Garth Brooks song. And I was like. And apparently that came about because what, you guys were literally in a bar and they played Garth Brooks in the background and you were like, low Places seems like a good name.

03:04
Tim Choate
Low Places is the best drinking song of all time.

03:07
Matteo Dix
Okay. So I was like, oh, that seems. That seems decent. That seems okay. And then practice number three. No, number two. We did one. And they were like, okay, you're cool. Yeah, come back for the. For a second. And then they were like, oh, okay. So I guess, you know, do you want to be in the band? And I was like, yeah, definitely. And Dave goes, okay. Well, by the way, we're called Super Bloom, not Low Places. That's how I was informed.

03:29
DJ Lazuli
Last minute change there. Well, that's interesting path. You know, I feel like some of the best band names just kind of come about out of nothing, trying to think of some good ones off the top of my head.

03:42
Brian DiMeglio
I remember talking to Dave at practice about it, and if I Remember right, in 2017, there was one of those enormous. They're literally called super blooms. Those like flower blossoms on Death Valley where all the flowers go off at once. And it was just like a kind of hot word. And I think that's maybe how it came up, but maybe the origin and actual. Yeah, it's named after, like the actual super bloom in Death Valley.

04:08
DJ Lazuli
That's awesome.

04:09
Brian DiMeglio
We got the word.

04:10
Dave Hoon
And one day we'll cut a live album live from Death Valley.

04:15
DJ Lazuli
Let me know when that happens. I would definitely love to hear that. Yeah, and maybe a little difficult recording conditions, but pretty typical question up next. And I already know one of the answers based off of the may I say, awesome shirt. First of all, what's some of Superbloom's biggest influences? The shirt is fantastic. Planet by Failure, by the way, since I realize this is an audio recording and you can't see what the shirt is.

04:50
Tim Choate
Yeah, this is a Failure Fantastic Planet T shirt. The designs by Campton Moger from. Currently from Heavenward, but he used to play in Teenage Wrist.

05:02
DJ Lazuli
That's a great band too.

05:03
Tim Choate
Yeah. Also huge influence. Failure Teenage Wrist. Like a lot of the, like, newer sort of, like, I don't know, rock and kind of grungish kind of bands, for sure. Like when we first got together, I personally was listening to like, a lot of Super Heaven, Teenage Wrist, Balance and Composure, Drug Church, that kind of stuff. But we also, you know, were raised on all of, like, the classic 90s rock and alternative rock. Dave's Dave's rocking old school Rage against the Machine, Evil Empire shirt.

05:37
DJ Lazuli
These are all great bands I'm hearing. I. I think almost every single one of the ones you've listed I've played on my radio show multiple times.

05:47
Matteo Dix
I think. Also, like Tim said, we all grew up listening to a lot of 90s music, but also just a lot of sort of heavy music with poppy hooks and, you know, like, good melodies. I think that's a big underpinning in general of what influenced us in a lot of the songwriting. But yeah, melody and loudness. Deftones. Like anything from sort of more pop punk stuff to Deftones to everything that Tim just listed to obviously anything new.

06:15
Dave Hoon
We should check out that.

06:19
DJ Lazuli
Yeah, I'm trying to think.

06:21
Dave Hoon
It's edited.

06:22
Tim Choate
Don't worry.

06:23
DJ Lazuli
I'm a big fan of this band called Bleed. There's another band called Trauma Ray that's pretty rad. Those are the two that are coming to mind right now.

06:39
Tim Choate
Yeah.

06:39
Brian DiMeglio
Yeah.

06:40
DJ Lazuli
I think Bleed just kind of came around. I think they just dropped their debut EP like a couple months ago. So still definitely just breaking out. Yeah. I had to make sure that the song I was playing from them on my show was clean and it was very difficult to find the lyrics just by searching Bleed.

07:03
Matteo Dix
We played a show last night in D.C. with Dayx and Dosser and Rememberables and definitely check out those guys.

07:12
DJ Lazuli
Nice.

07:13
Matteo Dix
If you don't know them already, they're. They're very good. Was our first time playing with them. But they're all great bands. All have reasonably recent music coming out. Similar vibe. Yeah, really good.

07:22
DJ Lazuli
Awesome. So kind of bouncing off of that. When you guys talked about that vibe of the sound, like, it's easy to identify when you hear it. Like with the bands that you listed, like Teenage Wrist, Balance and Composure. A lot of discourse. I've seen online labels superbloom as just straight up grunge. And I know genres and labels is something that can be pretty contentious among musicians. So what's your take on all that? Do you care about being labeled grunge? Do you see yourself as something else? Does it. Do you even care at all about it?

08:03
Matteo Dix
I personally don't. This is Mateo. I personally don't care necessarily, but it doesn't upset me. I listen to that type of music. I listen to grunge. I grew up listening to a lot of those bands from the 90s, from sort of Seattle, etc, so it's very flattering. I don't think any of us set out or sat around a table and said, let's make grunge music or let's write music that sounds like this. And I'll let Dave and Tim speak more on this. But I think we. They. We write music that we want to listen to and that we like and that tends to be kind of guitar driven, heavy, melody laden music, which in some respects is what grunge was or is. So yeah, it doesn't bug me personally. I don't know what you guys think.

08:53
Tim Choate
Yeah, yeah, I think we've always sort of set out and I'm sure like you might get a lot of bands saying this, but for sure it's true with us. Like we just set out to write and play the songs that we wanted to hear and listen to. And I think a lot of it is like, you know, we love feedback and heavy distortion and just being really loud, but we also love catchy hooks and like melody and all that too. And harmony for sure. These guys do a lot of work on harmony. So yeah, I think it's like just the music that we want to hear.

09:26
Brian DiMeglio
It's tough to define stuff sometimes. For sure. I definitely also don't mind grunge or whatever people want to call it, you know, if they're talking about it, then we're ahead. So you can call it whatever you want, but definitely some grunge, you know, definitely some crunch, like alternative influence in there. But yeah, call whatever you want. Enjoy. You know.

09:46
DJ Lazuli
Awesome. Yeah, I definitely. I frequently have arguments. Not even arguments, just extended discussions with my roommate about this exact topic. Because we always talk about the idea of musicians going in with a specific genre they want to like almost follow the formula for. And we both always say that's just not the way to do it. It always comes across very mechanical and it's. It's like it was like generated through some sort of software. But if you. If you go into it with just like meshing all of your ideas and it comes out as just a sound, that's the. That's what we think is like the really organic way to get some of the best music out there. So I was definitely curious to hear Yalls take on that. And it's nice to know that you seem to agree with that.

10:39
Brian DiMeglio
Yeah, definitely.

10:41
DJ Lazuli
What does a typical writing session look like for you guys in terms of whether it's jamming or actually writing lyrics, any of that.

10:49
Brian DiMeglio
I'll leave some of the lyric stuff to Dave for sure. Usually Dave and. Or Tim will bring like a demo. Dave sends over a lot of like acoustic demos with vocals, things like that. That we'll check out and listen to. And then either with just Mateo in the practice room, kind of working on some arranging and some drum parts before, or sometimes we'll all go and meet together and kind of play through the tracks, work on the arrangement. It's pretty, like, open process, just, like, trying out different ideas, just like adjusting parts in the song together as a whole. Just kind of hearing it in the room. Because something can sound great on its own, but if it's not gelling with everybody together, it's tough to. Tough to recreate and do live for sure.

11:34
Brian DiMeglio
So, yeah, usually Dave or Tim will I bring the backbone of, like, a chord structure and then we'll kind of piece it together as a team.

11:49
Dave Hoon
I'd say that's pretty accurate. But what tends to actually happen is we bring in a song, we play on it, and then we'll record it on something like this and we'll take it home. And then by the next practice, the song's either dead or it's completely changed. And then, you know, rinse and repeat until we get to a point where we invested so much time into it can't be dead. Lyric wise. I don't know. I don't know how to, you know. Yeah, I use thesaurus.com rhymezone.com a lot. Big slant rhyme kind of guy.

12:28
DJ Lazuli
So there's some great websites. Shout out to them.

12:32
Brian DiMeglio
Yeah, user resources, baby.

12:34
Dave Hoon
Exactly. So I don't know if anyone else.

12:38
DJ Lazuli
Yeah.

12:39
Tim Choate
Like the. Like were saying earlier, like, the whole process of creation and like, kind of like putting our own sort of like, sort of feel, vibe, identity, whatever you want to call it into the song. It's. For us. It seems to happen after a lot of, like, writing, rewriting, changing, rewriting. Kind of like throwing it against the wall a lot. And what was a big change, I think, for. For all of us was like, we all come from playing in heavy, heavier bands. Like, you know, we played in punk bands and hardcore bands and loud bands where we're kind of standing up all practice and, like, going crazy all practice. But when we got together, we sort of like, were like, all right, let's buy some seats and. And like, let's. Let's get together and like, let's talk through the parts.

13:22
Tim Choate
Let's think about the parts. Let's like. Let's like, actually talk to each other and not just, like, play as loud as we can for an hour and.

13:27
DJ Lazuli
A half, making it feel a bit more, like, orchestrated.

13:30
Dave Hoon
I never touched a major chord until.

13:34
DJ Lazuli
This Shit, let's see what else I got. I think you guys have already kind of touched on this a little bit, but are there any bands you would love to work with in the future? Whether that's touring or collaborating with on records or split EPs, etc.

13:51
Brian DiMeglio
Touring's a pretty long list of bands we'd like to work with. Deftones, probably number one should be dope. Deftones, Hard As Nails. Be great. Be a lot of fun. I love tour that band Basement if they're torn. I don't know what their deal is, but I always really like them.

14:11
Matteo Dix
I think a lot of the bands that Tim mentioned earlier, a lot of the.

14:15
Brian DiMeglio
More.

14:16
Matteo Dix
I don't know if I want to say contemporary, but let's say more recent bands that are in maybe of a similar style or stylistically could be associated to what we do. Would be amazing tour with them and obviously kind of having similar maybe audiences. And we've been able to become quite friendly with some of them, which is great. So I'm not ruling out to mention Heavenward and people like that would be amazing tour with, et cetera, but I mean, dream big. So I don't know. Tim, do you have some bigger names?

14:51
Tim Choate
This is all pretty new for us. We just released the album in June. We're on our first run right now. We're here in North Carolina. We have a few more cities to go, and it's been crazy fun so far. But we like, you know, obviously daydream about all the bands that we could, you know, go on the road with and play with, you know, locally. There's like, you know, a band like Quicksand, who we all love. And, you know, they're in Brooklyn. We would just want to, like, roll over and be like, hey, let's go on a tour together.

15:27
DJ Lazuli
That'd be killer.

15:28
Tim Choate
Love them. And there's a bunch of bands on the road right now that we're really into. Like Military Gun and Spice are on like a little run right now, but we would basically jump on, like, we would love to jump on with, you know, any bands that dig us and want to take us out. And we're pretty, like, you know, psyched to be out now and would definitely be psyched to go out with anyone. Really?

15:56
DJ Lazuli
Yeah. So this is your first actual tour?

16:00
Tim Choate
Yeah.

16:01
DJ Lazuli
That's pretty exciting. I know. I had some questions about that, but I felt like being a little bit more free form for a second.

16:09
Tim Choate
Yeah, for sure.

16:11
DJ Lazuli
So how. How far into the tour are you right now?

16:14
Tim Choate
So we're just Getting rolling. It's a short run, but we played in D.C. last night. Y with some awesome bands. Day Aches out of Virginia, Doser out of Baltimore, and. And the Rememberables, who are in D.C. for the most part. All really cool bands and just good people, like human beings. We had a ton of fun with them last night. Tonight's our second night here at the Cave in Chapel Hill. It's our first time down here. We're all psyched to be here. Then we're heading out to Atlanta tomorrow and then we're doing shows down at the fest in Gainesville. And it's going to be our first time down at the fest. It's like a legendary festival down there. So we're really excited to be. To go. Hit it up.

16:58
DJ Lazuli
Awesome. Curious. Any first impressions of North Carolina?

17:03
Matteo Dix
Excellent.

17:04
DJ Lazuli
Glad to hear it. Even though you chose the wrong city to come to.

17:08
Matteo Dix
Yeah, yeah. Go Wolfpack.

17:10
DJ Lazuli
That's right.

17:12
Matteo Dix
We did choose the wrong city. It was out of our hands, really.

17:15
Brian DiMeglio
We didn't.

17:15
Matteo Dix
We didn't. We didn't choose it. No. First impression is great. We only arrived here a few hours ago. So really looking forward to seeing hopefully a little more tonight. See, hopefully get a decent turnout and maybe get a chance to hang out afterwards. But yeah, it's awesome. The whole tour kind of came about. Tim mentioned fest and that was kind of the spark that ignited the whole idea.

17:37
Brian DiMeglio
We.

17:38
Matteo Dix
We got a chance to get booked for fest, which is. We were obviously very excited about it was gonna be our first ever show outside of New York. And then we figured, hey, why not make it a trip, kind of, you know, book ourselves some shows on the way down. So hence why it's a. You could say a short run. But yeah, it's amazing. I mean, you know, we. Especially after, I think the year that last year was with not playing any shows, we played our first show in like 18 months or whatever a couple months ago. A few months ago was our first show back after Covid. So from that to now, being able to actually be on the road with the guys and doing this for the first time is super exciting.

18:18
Tim Choate
Awesome shows after the year that everyone had have been like, really special so far. Like when we got back together for the first time, we played at a venue in East Village called Bowery Electric. And I remember, like, you know, the room was. It was just like packed and people were like hugging each other, like getting each other beers, like, cheersing. There were people who were like, getting emotional. It was just like, unreal to be back In a room together.

18:45
Brian DiMeglio
Yeah.

18:45
Tim Choate
And it just, like. Once we got on, it just, like, went insane. Like, we just, like everyone just, like, went off. It was like, cathartic for everyone, I think. So this whole thing has been just, like, really just a ton of fun to be a part of.

18:57
Dave Hoon
And to answer your first question,

19:00
Tim Choate
We're.

19:01
Dave Hoon
Here for the barbecue.

19:04
DJ Lazuli
That's right. Any.

19:05
Dave Hoon
Any recommendations? Yeah, gotta go to the backtrack if it's good enough.

19:12
DJ Lazuli
The pit in Raleigh. That's what I know. I think there actually is one in Durham, which is probably closer to here, but Chapel Hill is not my territory, so I can't help you out there, sadly, unless you find, like, a Smithfields. That's everywhere. Well, departing from the tour. Questions a bit. I had a couple more scattered ones. I'll start with one that's a bit more on topic. I really like the album art, Polin. I remember I showed some tracks to my friend and the first thing he said was just, oh, my God, that album art. I was like, yeah, I would love to know the story behind it. And then I got the email about interviewing you. So now I want to know, what's the story behind the album art you.

20:06
Matteo Dix
Guys want to do? I mean, the album art is by an amazing artist called Patrick Turk.

20:10
Dave Hoon
Okay.

20:10
DJ Lazuli
Who?

20:12
Matteo Dix
He's incredible. He's out of Texas.

20:15
DJ Lazuli
Houston.

20:15
Matteo Dix
Houston, Texas. He's, I think, primarily a collage artist, if not exclusively. And I believe Dave found the art on just, like, on Instagram. Yeah.

20:29
Dave Hoon
Of lame, but just Instagram, which is kind of lame. But it was like, whoa, what is this? It was like a. The one we chose as part of, like, a series of 20. The kind of the same thing. What was it called? There's Blue Star.

20:46
DJ Lazuli
Blue Star.

20:51
Dave Hoon
The Legend of Blue Star or something.

20:53
DJ Lazuli
Right.

20:54
Dave Hoon
Which is basically like. Like an urban legend, apparently, where they, like, soaked kids, you know, temporary tattoos and, like, acid or something, and, like, kids put it on and got fucked up, but apparently it's not true. But it's kind of a crazy thing to do an art piece on. Yeah, that's not the only reason we picked. It was just kind of crazy. So anyhow, it just kind of spoke to us. We actually bought the original art from him, too. And now he's kind of, like, on our team a little bit. We have a shirt with him right now, and we want to work with.

21:28
DJ Lazuli
Him in the future.

21:29
Dave Hoon
Shout out to Pat.

21:32
Tim Choate
Yeah, the. The whole canvas that we got is, like. It's like a full piece of artwork. That's the collage that's on the album art. And the album art is like a sort of like a cropping of that collage that Dave worked on. Just, you know, he has the visual eye for the band and created sort of like that. That cover image. We were trying forever to put a superbloom logo on it and a pollen logo on it and just have the album name on there and the band name. But it just was like the artwork is just so cool and there's so much going on and it's like it just works the best by itself. So were all really happy where it landed. Which was like the most sort of like original, sort of like authentic part of the art.

22:21
Matteo Dix
Yeah, I just wanted to say. Huh?

22:26
DJ Lazuli
Yeah, go for it.

22:27
Matteo Dix
I just wanted to say what I really like about the artwork is that I feel like in most cases, maybe traditionally bands would either commission the artwork or they would get someone to work on it for them, communicate some sort of vision. And then you have the artist put the whole thing together. And I feel like it was totally reversed for us. We actually. The piece was pre existing, so the piece already existed and we saw it and loved it and then reached out to Patrick and I think were pretty surprised maybe by how just into the whole idea he was. And he was kind of saying that he'd always wanted to have one of his pieces be album art. And he felt like it really fit what he was doing.

23:06
Matteo Dix
And it turned out that he was actually really into the band or became into the band. And he basically gave us complete free reign. He said, look, if you guys buy the piece, essentially it belongs to you and you can fundamentally do whatever it is that you want to do with it, which was amazing. So, yeah, again, shout out to Patrick. He's been incredible to deal with and his art is sick.

23:27
DJ Lazuli
It's a easy way to get a new fan. Hey, can I steal your art? Put it on this album? Yeah, yeah, definitely. You guys sound great.

23:34
Matteo Dix
Yeah, exactly.

23:37
DJ Lazuli
No, that's definitely a really cool way.

23:41
Tim Choate
Yeah.

23:42
DJ Lazuli
Like you were saying. I feel like with most artists, especially like a lot of. A lot of like mainstream artists, it's like they have their own specified designer that they have that sort of goes with them throughout the records and helps design all the album covers. But it's seems like a lot of things I've heard about, like the formation of stuff. Stuff with this band seems almost like accidental and it's awesome. Like with the. The name, it was just like, hey, Super Bloom. Yeah, we're doing it. And then the album art Is just. I don't know, it's a. It's not a story you typically hear, but I definitely a fan of it, so I believe my memory is sort of failing me.

24:22
DJ Lazuli
But I think the tracks that I specifically added to our rotation and the ones I was the biggest fan of were whatever, Unleashed. I was wondering if you guys had a track you were proudest off of Pollen.

24:34
Dave Hoon
I personally like Pollen the best. That's not really answer. I mean, it's not like a fun answer, but I just like that one the best. It's fun to play. Maybe that's why.

24:45
DJ Lazuli
Doesn't have to be a fun answer.

24:48
Dave Hoon
Yeah, it's really fun to play.

24:49
DJ Lazuli
Yeah.

24:50
Dave Hoon
So it makes me. Makes me happy about you guys. Brian.

24:56
Brian DiMeglio
I'm a double dip on Pollen. It's great. I think it encapsulates a lot of what we have going on in a bunch of different directions at the same time. Yeah, it sparks joy. Pollen sparks joy. I think the arrangement's really good. We spent a lot of time figuring out what were going to do for that third verse. We rewrote it so many times. It's outrageous. But it really landed. And I think you can hear the work and the.

25:29
DJ Lazuli
I really hope that came through in the audio that is staying in, if it did.

25:35
Matteo Dix
Yeah.

25:36
Brian DiMeglio
I'm super proud of everything on that track, how it turned out. The guitars are slammin, the drum grooves are tight. I got some sweet bass lines in there. Vocals are good. It just rips front to back.

25:48
Dave Hoon
Brian also engineered that song, also all the songs. So he's talking about. He got that.

25:57
Brian DiMeglio
Some. I captured some of it. We had a bunch. Yeah. Pollen's great. 1994 also hits really hard. Whatever, of course, is like just another just absolute slammer that's been hitting. Very proud of it. Yeah. And you know what? The one that no one talks about because we didn't release it as a single that I think is sweet is Glass Candy Wrapper. It definitely flew under the radar. It's nice. It's just totally, you know, it's pretty out there. It's later album track for sure, but some diversification on there.

26:30
Matteo Dix
Leash. You mentioned Leash. Yeah, I like Leash. Leash is one of the probably, if not the oldest song on the record in terms of when it was actually written and even recorded. Right. It was like a. One of the earliest recording sessions we did for the record then wasn't even at the time. Kind of almost wasn't. Not necessarily that it wasn't going to be on the record, but it wasn't recorded with the record in mind almost. It was that far in advance from memory. I could be wrong.

27:02
Tim Choate
But,

27:04
Matteo Dix
Yeah, I like leash a lot. It has, like, a special place in my heart because it's a little. It's a little more dated in terms of how we recorded the other stuff. But I think we're. Honestly. It took us a little while to put the record out, and we had a lot of time to go over everything and make sure that were happy with everything. So I would honestly say that there's no songs on the record that we just put on there because we needed something. There's no, like, fodder. It's. It's just sort of. There's no filler, rather. It's just. We got a chance to really make a record with complete independence and only songs that were proud of and happy with how they turned out.

27:42
Matteo Dix
Which feels really nice to look back on it and not have a single song that you're like, oh, I wish we hadn't done that, or, you know.

27:48
DJ Lazuli
So I like.

27:49
Matteo Dix
I like all of them.

27:51
DJ Lazuli
That's awesome.

27:52
Tim Choate
Yeah. As a whole, on the record, we, like, wanted to sort of have the album have sort of a movement to it. And so there's, like, acoustic songs in there. And then, like, Last Candy rapper that Brian mentioned has, like, its own sort of acoustic vibe to it. So it's like, there's ups and downs. And we kind of wanted to, like, have the album sort of be just like a bit more of, like, a movement, like a journey then it. And then like a. You know, just a bunch of, like, loud songs with feedback, like, back to.

28:23
Matteo Dix
Back to back.

28:24
Tim Choate
My favorite track is I really like how Whatever turned out because when we recorded it, were. When we wrote it, rather, it was over the pandemic. And were, like, all sort of in different areas of the country at that point. So I think Dave and Mateo, I think you guys laid down the demo with the guitar and drums, and I was, like, out of state. And you guys sent it to me and I wrote, like, a really wacky guitar solo over it and, like, those weird guitar parts over it. And I was, like, kind of nervous about what the response would be, but I sent it back and everyone was down with it. So I was like, okay, cool, we can keep it. So I like that. The dude's like, let me kind of go nuts with it, actually.

29:10
Dave Hoon
We were all in New Hampshire without Tim, and he sent it, but were, like, partying and whatever. We didn't get back to him for, like, three days. And so we just left him on Reed, just, like, his idea. Hang, like, dangling in the wind. And then we're like, oh, hey, by the way, your guitar solo is sick.

29:29
DJ Lazuli
Just wondering, as someone who is an aspiring cinephile, what's everyone's favorite movies or TV shows?

29:38
Brian DiMeglio
My favorite movie is Catch Me if youf can with Leonardo DiCaprio. I watch it. I try to watch it every year on my birthday. It's sick.

29:48
DJ Lazuli
Nice together.

29:49
Tim Choate
We did. We did.

29:51
Matteo Dix
I was at Brian's.

29:52
Tim Choate
I.

29:52
Matteo Dix
My parents live in Europe, and I was at Brian's for Brian's family home for Thanksgiving last year. And it was on TV. It started at, like, 11, and it was on TV, and were both like, this is the perfect TV movie we're gonna watch start to finish. It wasn't your birthday, though, sadly, that's true.

30:07
Brian DiMeglio
It was my birthday, so I missed it. But love a good scam. So that's for me.

30:16
Matteo Dix
Love a good scam.

30:18
DJ Lazuli
Since it's a little bit drizzly. One last question. If you had to visit one country that you'd never been to before, what would that be?

30:27
Brian DiMeglio
I think going to Japan would be sick. I'm trying to eat some really good ramen, check out some serious quality snow, see what's going on.

30:38
Dave Hoon
Texas.

30:40
DJ Lazuli
That's the absolute worst choice.

30:43
Brian DiMeglio
You're fired, Tim.

30:46
Matteo Dix
You know, I really want to go to China, actually. I quite recently decided that I would really like to go and spend a decent amount of time there. Traveling around and eating all the food and seeing all the things. If I had to pick just one country, just because it's enormous enough to be able to do that. But also Brazil.

31:08
DJ Lazuli
Y' all gonna come to Brazil?

31:13
Tim Choate
I was gonna say Brazil or Mexico and Mexico City. I would want our bands to play there because I've seen, like, festivals and stuff that happen down there. I think Deftones has Dia de Los Deftones in Mexico City. The music scenes seem amazing. Just go out there and play for a new crowd. It would be sick.

31:36
DJ Lazuli
Yeah, well, since we ran into some unfortunate circumstances with getting good audio quality here, and it's starting to rain, I think that about does it. I really want to thank all of you for taking the time to do this interview. I had a blast, and really glad that I can share this with the listeners since they've definitely heard a fair share of the album over the airwaves.

32:00
Brian DiMeglio
Appreciate it.

32:00
DJ Lazuli
Any last words?

32:03
Matteo Dix
Shout out to Kalei, who's here with us on tour and is just an all around legend. Sunbeam. Tigers. No. Thanks for Andrew. Thanks for coming down to meet us in enemy territory. Like you said, Go Wolfpack.

32:15
Dave Hoon
Of course, our wolf pack became one stronger.

32:21
Brian DiMeglio
We really appreciate you taking the time. It's been a lot of fun coming all the way down here. It's been good, so thank you.

32:27
DJ Lazuli
Awesome.