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What's on the menu at Lucid Cafe? Stories of transformation; healing journeys; thought-provoking conversations about consciousness, shamanism, psychology, ethics. Hosted by Wendy Halley of Lucid Path Wellness & Healing Arts.
You're listening to Lucid Cafe. I'm your host, Wendy Halley. Hello, friends, old friends, new friends, all the friends. Thanks so much for joining me for another episode of Lucid Cafe. So quick update on the "Become Your Own Shaman" introductory online course.
Wendy:Alright. So after this episode is finished, I'm doing the pivot. I'm diving into recording course content, which will be followed by all the post production work, so I'm still hoping to release the course later this summer. So wish me luck. Okay, so today's episode is all about healing with frequencies light and sound frequencies to be specific.
Wendy:If you're a regular listener, you may have heard me reference the harmonic ellipse, the new energy therapy chamber I have here at my wellness center. Well, today, I'll be talking with the inventor of the Harmonic Egg/ Ellipse, Gail Lynn. She's a renowned visionary, inventor and pioneer in the realm of frequency healing, celebrated for her groundbreaking creation, the harmonic egg, which she invented in 2016. Since then, she went on to also create the Ellipse and the LIFT. These innovative sound and light frequency chambers, designed with the aim of fostering holistic healing and wellness, stands as a testament to Gail's visionary approach to promoting mental, emotional, physical and spiritual well-being.
Wendy:In today's episode we talk about the harmonic egg ellipse, its design, how it works and the experience, as well as Gail's book: Unlocking the Ancient Secrets to Healing, Why Science is Looking to the Past for the Future of Medicine. So please enjoy my conversation with Gail Lynn. Hi, Gail.
Gail:Hello. I'm so excited to be here. I really didn't even prepare for this. I always prepare for podcasts because I wanna know who I'm talking to, but I already know you. And so I all the way up to the time we got on, I've been doing editing of our documentary and running around.
Gail:There's it's tax time and all that stuff. So I'm so happy to be here.
Wendy:I'm so happy you're here. I've been wanting to do this for a long time. And now seems like the perfect time, especially since I have graduated to the harmonic egg, harmonic ellipse.
Gail:Yeah. I call it the harmonic egg ellipse because it's really the harmonic egg second version. Only reason is because we wanted to change the door design. Everything else is the same.
Wendy:Right. Right. Well, I'm mightily impressed with this technology that you brought into the world, and so I wanna get into that, but I wanna get into whatever we can talk about as far as how it works and the impacts it has on folks and what I'm starting to notice. I have some questions. But first, you wrote a book called Unlocking the Ancient Secrets to Healing: Why Science is Looking to the Past for the Future of Medicine.
Wendy:So when I started reading the book, I was surprised at how personal it was. Like, the first half of the book, the first part of it is about your journey to creating the egg. And you're very candid. It's a very personal look into your life, which I appreciate because it makes you real. It just feels authentic when someone is really honest because everyone's path has difficult experiences and challenges.
Wendy:And you put forward some of your difficult experiences, but how they all kind of lead you to where you are now, which is a powerful place.
Gail:Absolutely. I did not want to even have my name on the book. I have a ghostwriter, and I wanted it to be anonymous. I didn't wanna be judged. I didn't wanna be out in the limelight.
Gail:And so I told her, I said, let's just put anonymous on here, and we'll talk about what the Egg can do and people can get agitated. And I felt like, you know, the eggs wanted to have a voice. And so she said, Gail, you can't do that because the whole concept of the egg is about who you are and the energy that you are, and everything is energy in any kind of invention that you are subjecting your your energy to is gonna have the energy of the inventor. And and I did like I said, I didn't wanna put myself out there like this. But now that it's out there, I feel and I hear from people how inspired they are to read my story and to say, oh, my gosh.
Gail:If you can do it, Gail, I can do it because you're not you didn't have a silver spoon in your mouth. You weren't born rich. You've had many challenges where you fell down and you got back up and you dusted yourself off again. So thank you for acknowledging that because it was really hard. I can't even imagine what I know now.
Wendy:Right. But there's something about acknowledging those difficult experiences and there is a universality to it, right, that everyone can probably relate to at least an aspect of your story. I mean, you have an interesting picker of men. You you're men picker, like a relationship picker. There's, like, a theme there of these really strong, charismatic, and turns out domineering men that you had a series of relationships with that really kind of forced you.
Wendy:It sounded like, from what I gathered, if I understood correctly, it forced you to really take your power back in a way that you hadn't been able to do from earlier in your life.
Gail:And and let that be, let that be a lesson to the kids out there that they can do the same thing. My dad was an alcoholic, and so my first husband was an alcoholic. My first boyfriend was an alcoholic. Let me start let me go back up. 1st boyfriend, second boyfriend, alcoholics.
Gail:1st husband, alcoholic. 2nd husband was an addict.
Gail:It was more food. A symphony over and over, and it was attracting this a symphony over and over and it was attracting this, this type of person. And so when I did some shamanic work, when I did some shadow work, when I did some clearing, I realized that I was playing a recording that was attracting this over and over and over again. I built so many men up and spilt so many businesses for men. And I thought, You know what, I'm freaking done.
Gail:This time, it's for me, the harmonic gag was for me, it's the divine feminine. It got away from the masculine, and now I've attracted a man to my life that holds me up as the divine feminine and holds that space for me to be successful, for me to shine. I'll start crying here. He's really my Viking warrior, and he doesn't have ego. He is so proud of what his Goddess has done, and I don't take him for granted, not in the least.
Gail:He's just such an instrumental part of my life, and I'm so glad that I cleared the energy of all the toxic, narcissistic, sociopathic men in my life so I can be where I am in this in this place of magic now. Sorry. You go ahead now.
Wendy:I think that's it's beautiful. And I'm really, really happy to hear that you found someone like your guy. That's great, and that you were able to allow him into your life.
Gail:He's amazing. Yeah.
Wendy:And here you are. Right?
Gail:Here I am in all my glory. All my glory. Trying like a baby.
Wendy:Yeah. No. It's beautiful. And it's really fucking real. So there.
Wendy:And it's also like I was saying kind of universal. I mean, who here, anyone listening got their relationships right from the beginning? Like, no. If you
Gail:did, you're awfully magical and I wanna meet you.
Wendy:Yeah. No. I think if it does happen, it's extremely rare.
Gail:Yeah.
Wendy:But for most of us, it's a huge learning curve. And then a lot of us kind of get stuck and sort of settle into something that's not serving us, but maybe we don't feel like we deserve better. So we just stay in that and just learn to live with it. I certainly know lots of folks who have done that, which is heartbreaking.
Gail:I mean, I I hear about it all the time. And then there are a lot of people that actually do energy work and find that they clear a lot of that energy that they're projecting, and they get divorced. And I actually tell them congratulations. They said, Well, wait a minute. Divorce was supposed to be a sad thing, but not if those two people weren't supposed to be together and they get to find their magical person, and you outgrow people.
Gail:I feel like I've outgrown a lot of the people that I've been with in the past because I keep doing my work. I keep growing. And if people don't grow together, then they grow apart.
Wendy:Right. So talk about resonance. Right? It just you no longer match. There is something about dysfunction finds dysfunction, so it keeps it alive in some way.
Wendy:And then if you start healing yourself and evolving, then, of course, it's naturally gonna like, this relationship doesn't fit me anymore or this job doesn't fit me or this career or whatever. And then it kind of propels you into new territory, which is what healing is all about. Right?
Gail:Right. Well, there's a lot of people I was raised Catholic, so the sacrament of marriage is something to be taken seriously. And so I have a lot of friends who are in miserable marriages because they believe that they can't break that sacrament. But you know what, God, Jesus, would they really want you to stay miserable and then make another person miserable, another soul, another one of God's children? So there's that thing where I wonder, you know, where is the fine line?
Gail:Do you want to be happy? Or do you want to uphold the sacrament of marriage?
Wendy:It's a great question.
Gail:I chose to be happy.
Wendy:Yeah. I vote for happy. Happy is good. Yeah. Life's too short to suffer needlessly.
Wendy:If you are aware that you're suffering, there's no need to if you can try to shift that or you just have to develop a relationship with it.
Gail:Yeah. 100%. So when I wrote the book, it was supposed to be anonymous, but energetically, it just couldn't be. So I gave in, and now I've done hundreds of podcasts, TV, radio, and now working on a documentary just to inspire and give people hope that they can find the place that I am in for themselves.
Wendy:Beautiful. And I think it's happening. Yeah. Let's talk about that. I met you back in it was 2013, because it was a very important time in my life.
Wendy:It was a turning point for me. And I had seen the gentleman you refer to as your mentor in an interview talking about his light box, and I had a very strong reaction to it. And within I think it was within 48 hours of watching that interview, I had booked my sessions at your center and had booked my flight out to Colorado and had a very cool experience. Was a profound experience, and I was working on a business plan on the plane ride home. And then a year later, I quit my state job and opened my center.
Wendy:It was exactly the same week that I was at your center in October that I opened my center in Vermont. And so I had, the same light box as you, and then graduated to the next version of that light box, and then the flood in July of 2023 last year wiped out that box, and that enabled me to get the harmonic egg ellipse, which I'm wicked excited about.
Gail:I love it.
Wendy:So you and I have had this sort of, it's not the same path, but there's this sort of trajectory around this.
Gail:Oh, we're in the same sorority of having the same mentor. Right? And it was definitely challenging. And the lightbox was beautiful. But to me, it was very masculine, it had the angles, so it was hard to clear.
Gail:And it was also, I think, more physical and environmental than it was emotionally and spiritually healing.
Wendy:Yeah, that's a good way to put it. Yeah.
Gail:Yeah. And so I felt like there was a lot of past life regression work that I did to find out how he became my mentor, and why that was part of my journey. And it was absolutely beautiful. And when that time was over, a season, a reason or a lifetime, it was a reason. And when that time was over, I sent him love.
Gail:And that wasn't really what he wanted, but that's what happened. I had to take my power back and be on my own journey. And I had shamans coming in their son, Gail, you're going to invent your own modality and technology. I said, Nah, I need a teacher. I need a guru.
Gail:No, Gail, you are the teacher. I said, No, I don't want to be the teacher. And I remember saying to one of the shamans, women don't invent things. Well, I grew up in automotive, and Henry Ford and Thomas Edison and the Detroit area. Mostly men invent things.
Gail:And she said, you know what? I think she wanted to slap me. But she said, you
Gail:need to get that. She
Gail:she was that type of person just really real and authentic. And she said, you need to shift that and that you need to change the script. Women do invent things. And so that was kind of the launching pad for me to say, Okay, well, I guess here we go. So the egg came through with a lot of feedback from clients that use the light box where they said, oh, I don't like to lie flat.
Gail:It hurts my back. And so I said, Well, we need people reclining in a chair inside what? Oh, inside where life begins. How about an egg? How about the spiral trajectory?
Gail:Victor Schauberger talks about the power of the cosmic egg and how inside the egg, you always have a good vibration, a high vibration spiraling around. Well, then I studied Edgar Cayce, Wilhelm Reich, and The Orgone Box, and Nikola Tesla, and Royal Reif, and started putting all this stuff together in my little engineering mind, and said, well, it only makes sense to use the 3, 6, and 9, 360 degrees. We have the hexagon platform, which is 6 sided. We have the dodecagon outside paneled with 12 panels. So we have the 3 sixes and nines in there.
Gail:We have Edgar Cayce's work saying before he passed away, bring together the spiritual forces of light and the spiritual forces of sound, and we'd have a great modality for the future. We're vibrational beings of light. Why aren't we healing with sound and light? This is ancient technology that's coming forth. And then you have Royal Rife who did amazing work with frequencies, but now people are using the spooky 2 and the Royal Rye frequencies, and they're not the same.
Gail:He used a universal microscope. He tested every single client or patient and was able to stain their cells and figure out which frequencies to use. They're not one size fits all. And the frequencies that he created in the forties and the fifties, there's a different mutation of parasites. We have a different mutation of cancer.
Gail:We have a different mutation of all diseases, it's not the same. There's always change. So I wanted in the egg, I wanted to not use the solpagiosuite and frequencies, but the waveforms of instruments. And when we use a waveform of the instrument, we're finding that the waveforms of instruments communicate with an organ or a system of the human body, just like the Aborigines knew how to use denture do to heal broken bones. And the Native Americans used drumming and flute.
Gail:And the Egyptians used flute. And the Greeks used different instruments. And the Peruvians used different instruments, a lot of flute. So the flute has a very simple waveform, and that waveform seems to be affecting the liver and clearing anger and helping that organ. The drumming seems to be working to build the immune system and and really help the root chakra.
Gail:And then you have guitar strings, we say, oh, heartstrings. Well, the guitar and pedals can help the heart to come into balance in the heart chakra. The same with the crown chakra with heartstrings or with strings. And so when you look at the kidneys and the and the chakras and the emotions behind the kidneys being fear, and the lungs being grief, and the liver being anger, and the stomach being worry as well as the pancreas, I looked at how can we get the waveforms of the instruments to come into play with each individual body because there is no one size fits all. And then when you combine the colors, it's just mind blowing.
Gail:It's mind blowing what it does inside that little cubic air space. And then we created it with wood because and then we have the, harmonic egg ellipse is walnut. So the grain of walnut is very tight, so it's antifungal. It doesn't hold energy or information. And walnut is so sustainably harvested, and it grows so fast.
Gail:So I feel like I'm being responsible to the environment. I'm bringing in a living, breathing element to your locations for people to forest bathe in, if you will. And they're they're reclined for 40 minutes of music and 10 minutes of silence. And the silence is where the magic happens because that's where you can integrate and listen to yourself and listen to your body and really fully embrace who you are, what you're releasing, and what the intention is that the practitioner helped you set before your session.
Wendy:And how many people take that kind of time anyway, even 10 minutes of just being quiet and sitting silently? We don't.
Gail:Mary, we don't.
Wendy:The answer is we don't!
Gail:Yeah. But that's when we get all our downloads. Right. That's when we're quiet and silent.
Wendy:Yeah. And especially after a session, at the end of a session, because you're in a state that makes you more open
Gail:Yeah.
Wendy:To receiving stuff.
Gail:Yeah. It's beautiful. It's so beautiful. There are going to be people that come out and say nothing happened. But a lot of times I just tell them, I love you.
Gail:Thank you for coming in. It was great to meet you. A lot of times, I'll talk to their partner later on at a later date, and they say, oh my gosh. I can't believe how much he or she changed. And I said, Well, they said nothing happened.
Gail:Well, something happened. We don't all listen to our bodies. And so that's the thing I try to encourage people to do. Listen to your bodies. If you have something going on, you don't necessarily have to go to the doctor and say, what's wrong with me?
Gail:What do I take? You sit in silence, and you say, what's wrong with me? What do I need?
Wendy:Yeah. That can be a tough thing, I think, for a lot of us because we're so in our heads. We start analyzing and using an intellectual process to try to decipher what could be wrong with us. And then we go to doctor Google and we find out we have cancer.
Gail:Right. Or do we? Right.
Wendy:Everybody, when they do a Google search, they'll find out that it's probably cancer.
Gail:They're dying. They're dying.
Wendy:So because it's such a hard thing to describe to people, the ellipse, the egg, what I've come to say, how I describe it is that it's akin to being inside of a giant musical instrument, like a cello or a grand piano, and because it's wood. And so you're inside of it and you're resonating with the instrument itself, and you become a part of that process. Does that make sense?
Gail:Absolutely. Because you may give off an energy or a frequency, say it's, like a Lyme disease. Somehow in that cubic airspace with the sacred geometry and with all the intention, it can pick up the maladies or the imperfections in the body and neutralize that frequency. So there's the egged energy and then there's the human energy, and they intertwine in there and create a beautiful orchestra to help to balance and reset the body.
Wendy:And that's one of the things I wanted to ask you. So having had the previous light boxes and then graduating to the harmonic ellipse, It's different. I mean it's the same concept where you're using light and sound in a chamber, but it's so esoteric, but I don't know if this is gonna sound nuts or not, but it almost from my own sessions and watching people have experiences. Does it have its own intelligence?
Gail:Well, I believe that there is a self organizing system and a conscious technology happening with the harmonic egg. And I can't claim to understand it. But because I'm an engineer from Detroit, so I get stuck up in my head. I've had so many center owners, the most probably profound one was when the crates arrived in Peru and landed on the land there, there was a lady in the Belgium egg who told the practitioner, Oh, the Peru egg is there. And so she called me up and she said, Gail, is the Peru egg there?
Gail:I said, Yeah, but it's not even assembled yet. It's still sitting in the crates. And she said my client felt it. She felt the energy of the Peru egg. And so, of course, I think people are crazy because I try to stay very grounded, very engineering, very left brained, and I said, this is insane.
Gail:But over and over and over, I've heard people say, the egg is getting more powerful. And the only thing that I can come up with is there's more eggs on on different parts of the land in 10 different countries now. And so I believe that the more eggs out there, the more that they're growing in power to support the land that they're on, the clients that they're interacting with, and they're creating, even bigger intelligence.
Wendy:Like a grid of sorts?
Gail:Yeah, a matrix or a grid, where they're all connected. And we've had, which is I find interesting because with the sacred geometry and with the power of them, we still have the pyramid standing. We still have a lot of ancient structures standing. We know that you could have a tornado here, and buildings are being destroyed, houses are being destroyed, fires are happening. How is it that these ancient structures have survived all these mother nature incidents, we've had a fire here in Colorado, the Marshall Fires.
Gail:There was an ag center in Lewisville. The fire didn't touch it, but thousands of homes and business cells were burned down. We had hurricanes in Fort Myers. The hurricanes didn't touch the ag center in Fort Myers. We had the natural disaster in Maui.
Gail:We have 2 eggs in Maui. They weren't touched. We had a flood in, Traverse City, Michigan. That that ag center is now closed, but the flood didn't affect the egg at all. So what is happening?
Gail:Oh, the tornado in Texas. It actually leveled a building in the same parking lot, but left the building with the egg in it. Like, what's going on with nature that it understands what's happening with sacred geometry? So to me, there's an intelligence there that it's communicating and giving off, and I can't claim to understand it, I don't think we can measure. I don't think we have equipment that can measure the scalar waves and the energy that we're using in the egg.
Gail:Mhmm. There's just not equipment out there yet.
Wendy:So you're talking about the greater impact that the eggs are having kind of collectively, but then there's the impact it has on the person who's sitting inside or the the photograph of the person if you're doing a remote session or animal friend or land or whatever, which is a really cool component of this technology is that we can do remote sessions. And I've done a couple and it's pretty astounding. So I'll just say that.
Gail:Just like sending prayer. Yeah. Sending prayer to somebody. You're sending them energy. When you have somebody's energy in the egg, and you're capturing when they were perfect, their full birth name and their birth date, their energy's in there.
Gail:We've had center owners say that they open the doors and they smell the smell coming off of the photo as if that energy was in there. I do remote sessions. I've done a remote session in the Peru egg because I want to feel the energy of that egg. I've done a remote session in New Zealand egg, the England egg, the Belgium egg, and every time, it's different because I'm picking up the land, the intention that's being held by the energy of the practitioner. So it's all energy.
Gail:And that's why this type of work is very scary. The future of medicine is here. When Einstein and Tesla and everybody says, medicine of the future will be frequency medicine, it's here. And we have to be very discerning about the energy that we surround our bodies with, people included. But these modalities are going to come out in droves, and some of them are gonna be hurtful, and some of them are gonna be helpful.
Gail:And it's our job to be discerning. When you have that little feeling in your stomach, that gut feeling that this might not be good for you, you shouldn't subject yourself to it. I've been hurt by so many healers and so many machines, because I didn't listen to that small still voice. And then I ended up with insomnia for 2 weeks, or picking up sadness or fear or any kind of anxiety from a healer maybe going through a divorce and I'm getting their energy. And I'm empathetic.
Gail:So I'm picking it up. But I'm smart enough to know now from doing all my work that it's not mine. So people leave with anger, and they say, oh, that session made me angry. I had a lady tell me, oh, I did a float tank session, and it made me really angry. And I said, well, because water holds information and water holds energy, are you sure that you didn't pick up the energy from the last client?
Gail:Because she said, I don't know where this anger came from. It's weird.
Wendy:Mhmm.
Gail:It's not yours. You picked it out from the water. Well but they said they cleaned it. And I go, chemical cleaning is different than energy cleaning.
Wendy:Right.
Gail:Water holds information and energy. We know that from Imoto's work. So then you have other modalities now being put together. So people are opening centers and putting all kinds of different frequency modalities in a meta spa or some kind of a healing center. And are we really doing this with integrity?
Gail:If we're not informing the clients? You're gonna be walking through lots of different energy frequencies, some of which may be good for you, some of which may not. Are we being responsible if we put a lot of these things together and doing energy work on people without permission, which we know is a no no as a healer, you need to get permission from people. So are you bringing them into an environment where you're not getting permission to put them through all these different energy, Tesla lights, PEMF machines, EE systems, harmonic eggs, all in the same center, I'm just wondering what that's going to do to people. And are we canceling out some really beautiful things because the energies aren't they're dissonant even though they're good by themselves.
Gail:Are we canceling them out by putting them all together? That's a question that I've been asking myself recently.
Wendy:Well, I mean, I imagine a lot of people who have those kinds of practices are not aware that they're doing that. I imagine their intention is not to cause any kind of harm.
Gail:Correct. Correct.
Wendy:But it's a good point. It's a really good thing to think about, and I love the idea of learning what's right or not right for you, And that is a tricky thing though, right? Is discernment is how does anyone learn what's right for them? Because your brain can talk you into or out of anything, but your heart knows the truth, and your gut will back it up.
Gail:Well, I'll give you a funny story. If I muscle check, do I need chocolate? But you know what? Hell, yeah. I'm gonna need chocolate.
Gail:Yeah. It's gonna test. Yes.
Wendy:And I always need chocolate. Always. That's always me. Chocolate. It's it's yeah.
Wendy:That's just a fact.
Gail:But we can trick ourselves.
Wendy:Yeah. Exactly. I have tricked myself into needing chocolate, and and it serves me. So for now, it works!
Gail:I feel like if it's over 70% cacao Mhmm. Then it's healthy versus a toxin. I like the antioxidant properties.
Wendy:Because that's that's exactly what I tell myself. I like really dark chocolate, and so therefore it's healthy, and I'm fine. Everything is fine.
Gail:Correct.
Wendy:But that idea of discernment, what's the difference between true intuitive guidance and wishful thinking? You have to know yourself really well, and even when you know yourself really well, it can still interfere with your ability to read that kind of thing.
Gail:And it happens to me all the time. I know myself really well. And I go to the chiropractor and I told him, I said, I have a a posterior ponticulus. So I have a alien extra bone attached to my C one. I said, you know, you can't crack my neck because I have this.
Gail:He goes, well, I'm gonna just adjust the c 4 through 6. He grabbed my neck and he popped it and it's been 2 months and it still hurts. What happened is an activated the trauma from an old car accident that I had in 2016. And I haven't been able to, you know, and I knew better. I knew better.
Gail:And I even told him don't do it. He did it anyway.
Wendy:Well, the doctor knows best. Right? I mean, that's that's one of my big things is we live in an age of expertise. Right? And everyone is an expert, and then you have to go to them in order to to get your answers.
Wendy:And in some cases, it's valid. Right? Because some people have training. Right. Well, but what I'm referring to more is the worldview, the cultural worldview of expertise, where you just give your power over to someone else because they have the letters after their name or they say they're an expert in this thing.
Wendy:And then, like, you're saying, if your gut is telling you or your heart is telling you, like, oh, this doesn't feel right and yet you override it and you do it anyway. It's a hard lesson to learn, but all of us do it. We do it all the time, actually. But what you're suggesting is that we don't have to is that Right. We can turn our focus inward and get to know the terrain of our inner landscapes in a really intimate way so you can know exactly what's right for you and what's not.
Gail:Yeah. We take our power back.
Wendy:Exactly. It's all about that. So I had like 3 questions pop into my head as we were talking and now I've lost them all because we go in so many great directions.
Gail:I love it. I love talking to you. And I remember when I met you, and I remember our journey with the lightbox.
Wendy:We had some times, didn't we?
Gail:We did. We did remember I dated your brother, I think one date.
Wendy:Yes, you did.
Gail:You took pictures of me when I was in my Halloween costume when I was what was I was some kind of a warrior princess and I was with my horse and you were taking pictures. Do you remember that? Yeah. Yes. We
Wendy:do. Yes, I do. Gloria, your sister reminded me of that. Oh, no. Yeah.
Wendy:So I had forgotten about it. I'm like, Oh, my God, that's right. When I went out there in 2013.
Gail:Yeah. I was so excited for you to have the egg. And I thought, I want people to be really good egg guardians, and I think the egg finds them. And so I'm so glad the egg found you.
Wendy:Oh, I am too. Thank you. And you really were instrumental in making that happen, and I appreciate it greatly. I had been coveting the egg since you invented it, and there was no way I was gonna be able to make it happen until mother nature intervened. Thank you, mother nature.
Gail:Yeah.
Wendy:And brought that flood. So I'm actually in much better shape now because of that.
Gail:Beautiful.
Wendy:But, yeah, it's been a journey. I've had my journey, you've had your journey, and look what came out of yours. I mean, it's pretty astounding. And I'm just, like, every day falling more and more in love with my Ellipse friend, which we're now calling the fairy pod. One of my herbalist friends, she got in and she said, you know what it reminds me of?
Wendy:Being inside reminds me of those really beautifully illustrated children's books from the 19 thirties, I think, about fairies. And there's the milkweed pod with the ribbing. Oh. And the fairy would be inside of it. Yes.
Wendy:It's a fairy
Gail:powerful and we as clients, we open up and we're we're like, come out of this cocoon, we emerge as a butterfly, by going into the egg and doing our shadow work and releasing trauma. That's so beautiful. I get testimonials every day and they I cry a lot because the testimonials are so amazing. But one of them came through last week or so. And the title was the love bubble.
Gail:That's what they call the harmonic a, the love bubble. I said, that's so cute. First time I heard that the love bubble. That's adorable. Yeah.
Wendy:Yeah. Well, let's talk a little bit about what it can do for folks who might be interested in trying this modality.
Gail:Well, if the body doesn't know disease by name, and if we have an innate ability to heal, what can't it do? So there is no silver bullet. And like we said, it's not going to be for everybody. Some people are not going to want to crawl into a large wooden egg and heal. Not just the thing.
Gail:They want to go talk to somebody. They want a hands on healing session. They want needles put in them. They want different kind of energy work. And that is totally beautiful because there is no one size fits all.
Gail:So what we find is that the egg has its expertise in balancing the autonomic nervous system, bringing your sympathetic and parasympathetic into balance. And we know that when the autonomic nervous system is in balance, your body can heal naturally because because we have that innate ability from source, from god that we can heal. We know that when we cut ourselves, it's gonna scab over and it's gonna heal. We know when we break a bone, we may have to get that bone set from the Western medicine, of course, but we know it's gonna heal. So when did we lose sight of we can't heal from Parkinson's?
Gail:It's a degenerative disease and just keeps getting worse. We can't heal from cancer. That's a death sentence. When did we get so hoodwinked into believing that our body can't heal, but we know a bone can heal? And to me, that's pretty amazing.
Gail:We know organs can regenerate. So what happened in history that took away our power?
Wendy:Yeah. I think it's a really complicated answer. I don't know if I have the answer, but I can also speak to it. I could go on a tirade probably, but I won't.
Gail:Yeah. We know. And your audience knows the answer. It's about greed. It's about we also we wanted quick fixes.
Gail:Back in the day, we were farming and we were working and we had really hard days. And we wanted quick fixes. So the pharmaceutical company said, Oh, cool, We can provide quick fixes for these people. We'll come up with a bunch of pills to help every malady that they have, and it'll be a quick fix. But we're just putting a Band Aid on things that, are gonna keep getting worse and worse and worse because you're not putting any antibiotics on the wound, you're just putting a Band Aid on it, and it's festering, and it's getting worse and worse.
Gail:So it's no one's fault. It's our now job to say, with technology, our lives are easier, We're sitting behind a desk. We have time to heal. We don't need the quick fix anymore. Let's look into the root cause.
Gail:Let's listen to our bodies. Let's know that high blood pressure can be just dehydration. So can allergies and asthma. So can so many different things. Heavy metals.
Gail:Do a heavy metal detox. We've helped Parkinson's with heavy metal detoxes, and it's a neurological heavy metal load in the brain that causes the tremors. And we're smelling after their egg session. We're smelling the heavy metals coming off, off gassing in their body. So there's so many things that I've created a little bit of, music soundtrack for the 5 main reasons for disease, which is inflammation, stress, liver disease, heavy metals, and immune system issues.
Gail:And I think if we look at any disease, we're gonna go back, oh, that's from stress. Oh, that one's heavy metals. That's inflammation. Well, stress causes inflammation. So maybe that's a root cause of stress.
Gail:And stress is the number one killer. So if we are just doing a de stress and a relaxation session for people in the Harmonic Egg and the Harmonic Egg Ellipse, then we're giving them a beautiful gift.
Wendy:Absolutely. So, yeah, I guess we've just kind of collectively become externally focused. So we are looking to external sources to help make us feel better. And then there is the quick fix thing like you were saying. Remember when microwaves first came out?
Wendy:Maybe it was in the eighties and they were huge and really loud. And I said, it'll be a sad day when a microwave is not fast enough. Yeah. And here we are.
Gail:What we want and people get they complain that they're at McDonald's and their hamburgers and that out in a second, which don't go to McDonald's. But we have become this quick fix, I me, mine society, in love with power and forgetting about the power of love, and the power of us, and that we're all 1. And what happens to one of us happens to all of us. Yeah.
Wendy:It's easy to forget all of that because we get so caught up in our own our own stuff. But I can see how modalities like the one you created can help or can be a remedy for that because it's all about harmonics. Right? And I mean, we're really just as a society walking around in disharmony. We have a lot of disharmony.
Wendy:And so music and light are great ways to bring you back into harmony. Yeah. Well, specific music and specific light. Yeah.
Gail:Yeah. Maybe not the rap music that you're, you know, killing people and stuff. Let's let's probably not that music. Right? But Jonathan Goldman says frequency plus intention equals healing, and that's why we help, each client's set an intention.
Gail:And then once you and more are gathered, it's more powerful. So you've got the practitioner as well as the client holding those intentions and holding the space inside the egg, and so it just makes it much more powerful. I can manifest like crazy now. I just think of something and it happens. So I've gotten to the point where I have to be careful what I think about.
Gail:And I actually almost made a huge mistake with my intention. It's a quick story. I'll tell it quickly. But you know, I can't say anything quickly. But my boyfriend got a puppy.
Gail:And, the puppy was oh, my gosh, Every time I went over to his house, I like to relax. But he cooks me dinner 5 days a week and sends me all of leftover. So I'm at his house a lot. And the dog was just jumping all over me. She's crazy.
Gail:She's there. She's a puppy and I couldn't relax. And I remember him saying she chewed up the curtain, she chewed up his mattress, she chewed up a quilt, she was tearing curtains off the windows. I mean, she was horrible. She ate a whole couch.
Gail:And he said, if she touches my brand new leather couch, that's it. I'm gonna get rid of her. And I thought to myself, I hope she does the next day she did. And he said, I'm gonna get rid of her. Fortunately, I told him, I'm so sorry.
Gail:This is my fault. I'll pay for the couch. I'll pay to get it fixed. Because I knew that this puppy was something that he needed. And now it's his bestie, and I think she's 8 years old now.
Gail:And she's funny, and she's such a good thing for him. But that intention that I set almost made him get rid of that dog. And so we have to be careful what we wish for when we're very clear, and the egg helps us to clear, so we're connected to higher power, higher source, higher self. So, that's my That's
Wendy:what I was going to ask.
Gail:That's my short answer.
Wendy:I mean, you kind of answered the question that I was going to ask is how does manifestation work with respect to the egg?
Gail:Yes, when you can clear your baggage and connect yourself to your higher self or source energy, you're connected to the universal wisdom, and you are open to receiving what's yours by divine right. It's beautiful. And I I know that kids and animals heal very fast. And I remember talking to a doctor one time, and I don't know why I didn't know this answer, but he shared this with me. I said, you know, I don't understand.
Gail:Kids are in there for 11 minutes, 16 minutes, and they don't need tubes in their ears. And then they have cysts, and they just disappear magically. And my horse had a cyst. And in one session, within 3 days, it was gone, and the skin was sagging the next day, and the cyst was gone, and the next day, the skin sucked itself back up, and it was normal. And he said, Gail, because animals and children only know love, if we, as adults, only knew love, then healing would be easy.
Wendy:Okay. I mean, okay. Right?
Gail:I don't know. Love's love's a high vibration. The Beatles sing about love, all you need is love. I mean, there's so many things about love out there. And it is a high vibration.
Gail:What if we can live in a place of love and gratitude always when we eliminate disease? I really feel like disease is low alkalinity or acidic, and it's low vibration just like when you read, David Hawkins' work. You know, when he says that 250 hertz was fear and a 1000 hertz, and I think it's more than that now is Christ consciousness. But as the planet's changing, our frequencies are increasing, so we might be at Christ consciousness now at 1500 hertz. And so I don't believe disease lives there.
Gail:But when we're in hate and fear and anger and shame and guilt, I think that's that's where a disease lives.
Wendy:Well, I mean, it's an interesting way to look at emotionality, right? And of course, it's how it works is that your thoughts and your emotions have frequency to them. Mhmm. And of course, fear would have a very low unproductive frequency, not a helpful one. So, of course, the medicine for that would be love.
Wendy:That makes perfect sense.
Gail:Yeah. So I mean, I think I just try to spread my love glitter and you know how hard glitter is to get rid of. I just tried to spread my love glitter everywhere I go in the stores and you know, give gratitude and respect for people. I don't care if you're the trash man picking up my trash, I'm gonna respect you, because you're a soul being and we're all connected. My dad taught me that.
Gail:My dad was a factory worker with a 7th grade education. My dad and my mom are both medical error deaths and is third leading cause of of death now because they blindly followed their generation. Baby boomers blindly followed medical authority, and they're dead because of it. My dad was had a lot of common sense and a lot of respect. And he said, you know, the CEO of a company puts his pants on or her pants on the same way that you do.
Gail:And you should respect the factory worker as much as you respect the CEO of the company.
Wendy:I love that. And it's true. Wouldn't it be great if everyone kind of approached life in the way that your dad suggested? So in the little bit of time we have left, I'd love to hear about this documentary you've been working on that you referenced a little while ago. What's going on with the documentary?
Gail:Wow. Well, I didn't want to do that either. You know, people just put this idea in my head, and then it it it germinates and it blossoms, and then I get crazy because I'm a type a personality. So I decided that people need to hear that food can be your medicine, music and frequency can be your medicine, love can be your medicine, and that we need to be more discerning. I didn't want to have a documentary, oh, you know, the systems are crashing, and the world's falling apart, and everything's falling apart.
Gail:We already know that. I wanted to do more of the how. Yeah, everybody already knows that. So we touch on it in the beginning, we know what's wrong. But then we tell people how, how can we raise our consciousness?
Gail:How can we get more nutrients in our food? Because our food is nutrient depleted. It sits on first of all, it gets picked before it's ripe, so it doesn't get all the great energy from ripening on the vine, And it tastes different in the store. I can't eat store bought produce. I mean, I eat it, but it's gross.
Gail:I always tell my boyfriend tastes like produce. And he's like, well, what do you mean? It doesn't just taste like produce.
Wendy:It's like generic. Yeah.
Gail:Because my dad yeah. My dad had a garden, and the tomatoes in the garden were so amazing. And so it gets picked before it's it has the nutrients in it. Then it gets shipped maybe on a plane and radiated or in a truck and it's sitting there. Then it gets put under fluorescent lights and depleted of even more, and then people are touching it and all their energies in it.
Gail:So people need to clear their food. And so we talk a little bit about that. We talk about frequency and and color and music as medicine and how a tone missing from your voice could actually correlate to a physical illness or a disease. I work with Ani Williams, and she's one of the people we use for the harmonic gag music.
Wendy:Which are badass sessions, by the way. Let me just
Gail:Oh, sangaya sounds. Oh, my gosh. Amazing. She's she's interviewed. We interviewed her.
Gail:And the the magic of it is, Annie lives in France. She She used to live in Sedona. But she lives in France. And so I thought, well, this is a long shot. Can we really afford to I've self funded the documentary, and I'm not made of money.
Gail:So I said, can we really afford to fly Ani here and would she do it? So I called her up and I said, hey, we're filming the documentary. This is the date, and this is the location. And by all magic, and there's been probably 10 other synchronistical, magical things that happened on the set, She said, I haven't been to the US for 4 years. I'm flying in March 10th.
Gail:We needed her March 12th. I said, Well, where are you flying into? I said, We need you in Sedona. She goes, I'll be flying into Phoenix. Just blew my mind.
Gail:Everything about this documentary has magically come together. So we talk about the tones. If you're missing a tone from your voice, the tone of e missing can cause lung problems in asthma, emphysema. And so I was sitting next to a guy on the plane coming home from Sedona after filming and interviewing Ani. And he had lung cancer.
Gail:And so we started talking. And so she says the zodiac sign of Leo is the one that's mostly depleted of E. And so a lot of lung issues if you don't do your work and replenish your tones. And he happened to be a Leo. He had lung issues.
Gail:He was fascinated by the conversation. His wife was sitting there too. And replenish the tone of e using the pitch pipe and blowing into it. And I replenish the tone of e using the pitch pipe and blowing into it. And so we talk about that.
Gail:We talk about love and what love means to these experts that we've interviewed. We've interviewed neuroscientists, naturopathic doctors, spiritual healers. We talked a bit about autism with Susie Miller. We have Ani Williams. We have sound and light experts.
Gail:And then we have little old me on this quest to to get answers and try to educate people and inspire people and provide hope. And then we have a brilliant filmmaker who just has some drone footage that is amazing of me and Holly, my horse, and the peacefulness that we have and the bond that we have in our nonverbal communication is brilliant. And then we have an eagle's nest out here at the reservoir. And so he was probably pissing the eagles off with his drone. But he got some amazing footage of the eagles.
Gail:I thought, they're gonna grab that drone and throw it down or take it away from you. And so we have some amazing footage with the Eagles, which to me indicated freedom and Holly indicates freedom, my horse. So taking our power back and and just realizing how beautiful this planet is and how beautiful we are. And so I hope that the film inspires people to be more discerning, to maybe grow some of their own food, even if it's just microgreens, to get some more nutrients, and to really explore music and and sound and light as as medicine.
Wendy:Beautiful. Do you have a title for it yet?
Gail:-Yes. Are you ready? -I am ready. -It's time.
Wendy:-It's time.
Gail:It's time. Alright. Time for us to take our power back, time for us to grow our own food, time for us to be more in love, in love with ourselves and in love with nature and each other. It's
Wendy:time. Okay. So you're in post production now. Is that correct?
Gail:Yes. We're in editing. Yep. We're finished with filming.
Wendy:And any I mean, I don't know if you've gone down the distribution road yet. Is it your own production company, or are you working with an existing one? Or
Gail:Well, I hired a production company, so we had a producer and then on set, you know, we had the gaffer, the sound guy, the lighting guy, the camera, you know, the second assistant director, the whole crew. Not as big as the one I did in Hollywood, of course. But so we had a whole crew involved. So I'm looking at the film festivals, but what came to me the other day was maybe I have each different ag center in their location host a community screening at a local theater. We have a theater here in Greeley, Colorado that I went to to see a film called Fracking the System and learned that it was just $300 for him to rent that theater for 2 hours, and he called it his community screenings.
Gail:We have a 140 egg centers in 10 countries. Maybe each egg center does a screening in their town, and that's how we get the distribution out there. Film festivals are a little bit particular. If you film at Sundance, they don't want you to screen it at 1, they don't want you to have screened it before. There's a fee to enter.
Gail:And they want a certain format of the film. And there's, you know, you can't screen it for anybody until you get to the festival. So I don't really wanna wait a year.
Wendy:Yeah. Yeah.
Gail:I don't wanna wait a year. And I'm not a rule follower. I'm a rule breaker. Because history is made by those that break the rules. Damn it.
Wendy:Yes. Indeed. Alright. So that's a that sounds like a plan. I mean, I'd be up for that hosting a viewing
Gail:Yeah.
Wendy:Here in Little Montpelier, Vermont.
Gail:Yeah. And I think it'll get people who love film. And then it'll get a lot of your egg enthusiasts that will come and then those 2 groups intermingle and talk to each other before and after the film. I think it could be really powerful and it is a grassroots effort. And then, of course, I wanna fly to some of the locations.
Gail:I'd love to see you again. And love to meet the people in Rutherford, New Jersey, because they're like, Oh, well, we'll totally host a screening here. And you guys could do the q and A at the end because from the training that you've received and the people that you are and you know, about sound and light and you know about food as medicine, and you know about love. It's one of our brand attributes for the company, for Harmonic Gag, LLC. So I think you guys will do do it justice to answer the questions on a q and a after for the viewers.
Gail:So I don't know. We're, I haven't even run that past my team yet. So I'll ask them be out, and, Louis I
Wendy:won't tell anyone.
Gail:Yeah. No. You won't well, you'll just tell everyone. You won't tell anyone. No.
Gail:It's fine. I don't worry about it because if they if they don't like the idea, well, I usually collaborate with people, and I love to get other people's wisdom and advice. It helps me to make decisions and sometimes helps me to change my truth because my ego is not so big that if I get more information, I can say, I never thought of it that way, and I can change my truth.
Wendy:Very cool. Alright. So I did think of one other question that I wanted
Gail:to No more questions. I'm just earlier.
Wendy:We're done here. We're done. My time is precious.
Gail:Yeah. I got 9 forties and 9 40 ones to file and checks to write and send out from taxes.
Wendy:So I'm doing you a solid one by discontinuing this conversation. Just keep that on.
Gail:Distracted from taxes.
Wendy:One of the questions I wanted to ask you is how much do you think each harmonic egg ellipse center owner, how does the center owner interact with the egg? And I'm developing a relationship. I'm getting to know her, but I'm just wondering if there's an impact, can the center owner have an impact on the effectiveness of the treatment that someone receives or is it totally divorced from that?
Gail:No. I believe that you 2, your egg and yourself are 1, and that your energy does influence the egg because I've had different center owners and different clients talk to me about center owners. And there are some center owners that have lived in fear because that's what we do, and it's palpable to the clients. So the more you can stay in a place of abundance and love and joy, and being of service, and staying out of fear and lack, the egg and your energy are going to influence the client sessions just like any modality in any practitioner in any location. I even believe location matters.
Gail:If you're you have your, healing center next to a restaurant, tattoo parlor, cleaners with a lot of toxicity, I believe that could affect the energy of the the egg and the client sessions because everything is energy. So you wanna clear the energy. Most of the center owners are so in tune with their egg that it's increasing their intuition. It's helping them to help their clients to set intentions and to help them with their healings. And it's really beautiful.
Gail:They name them, and their names come to them from the eggs, which in my engineering mind, I think that's a little cuckoo. But my eggs do
Wendy:the same thing to me.
Gail:And I thought, what's that voice? It's the voice? Betsy, what the heck? What? And I realized it was the egg who had named herself.
Gail:Yeah.
Wendy:That's adorable.
Gail:It is adorable. It's beautiful. It's fun. It's not that far out there when we think that in in terms of everything being energy. And then when we can be quiet and listen, and when we can clear all that emotional baggage and, and trauma from ourselves and be connected to the universal wisdom of source energy, it's not that far out there.
Wendy:I hear you. Makes perfect sense. Yeah. And I anthropomorphize everything. So, I mean, it's it's kind of the way I see everything is alive with essence, and you can have a relationship with it.
Wendy:So I just didn't know if it would translate. So I have to really keep my ducks in a row then extra.
Gail:I believe so. Extra, you know, because you're taking on the responsibility of helping people on their on their journey.
Wendy:So highly aware of that.
Gail:And having a better quality of life. Yeah. And so you're an instrumental part, you're integral to their process. And so anybody that owns a healing center has to be really careful about their energy, what they're giving off, what they're embodying, so that they can be a great steward for their clients.
Wendy:Alright. Well, on that note, Gail, thank you so much for coming on. I'm really glad we were able to make this happen.
Gail:Thank you. Yeah. And it got me out what, you know, an hour or so away from taxes. That's good, too. Well, let me say one more thing if people want to find us on the websites harmonicang.com.
Gail:And you can find all of our locations, including Wendy's location in Vermont. And, we create only consciously created music, And that's also available in soundtracks on the website with song notes so you can use those at home. And also, my very vulnerable book is out there as well.
Wendy:Yep. And I have copies here at the center if anyone local is interested in picking up a copy.
Gail:Yeah. Save on shipping.
Wendy:Save on shipping. Yeah. Alright. Well, thank you again. Thank you.
Wendy:I love the ellipse. Since reopening mid February, I've logged quite a few hours in my new egg shaped friend. All the stress from last year's flood is pretty much gone. I've been incredibly productive, and I'm feeling better than I have felt in a really long time. It's deceptively subtle, but it's mighty powerful.
Wendy:I love seeing the before and after transformation in the people who come in for sessions. It makes me smile every time. If you'd like to learn more about any of the Harmonic Egg products Gail has invented or to find a center close to you, please visit harmonicegg.com. I'll also keep you posted on the release of Gail's documentary, It's Time. Thank you for hanging out with me today at the Lucid Cafe.
Wendy:I didn't mean to make that rhyme, but it's kind of cool that it did. In the next episode, a deep dive into sacred geometry. Until next time.