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Flyover Film Country is a podcast about movies set in places oft-forgotten by Hollywood. Olivia Clement and Isaac Sims are your co-hosts, bringing unique perspectives from Arkansas and Oklahoma! Produced by Walter Lyle.
Sean Baker (00:02.336)
I'm Isaac Sims. shit.
Jordan Gottsponer (00:09.338)
Holy crap!
Sean Baker (00:11.168)
It was quiet enough for just long enough.
Hey, let's rally guys. Let's rally. I'm Isaac Sims
TTFU (00:20.071)
Let's rally. I'm Olivia Clement.
Walter Lyle (00:22.719)
And I'm Walter.
Sean Baker (00:24.467)
And this is Fly Over Film Country, a film podcast hosted by residents of Arkansas and Oklahoma. Go Sooner.
TTFU (00:32.497)
Go Thunder, Thunder are playing right now. They're currently losing. TTFU forever though.
Sean Baker (00:33.528)
Go Thunder, TTFU, we bring a perspective somewhere between the average moviegoer and your cousin enrolled in his sophomore year at film school at the University of Oklahoma. They have a film program. They're Oklahoma's film scene growing, popping off. We want everyone to know that the movies are great and we are building a community of film fans in flyover country. Say that 10 times fast.
TTFU (00:47.687)
they do.
TTFU (00:51.229)
Pop it off, yeah.
TTFU (01:01.189)
No, I won't. I shan't. But I will.
Walter Lyle (01:07.267)
I'm talking like the aliens from Mickey 17.
TTFU (01:10.621)
haven't seen it yet. No spoilers! Anyway, today... Okay.
Walter Lyle (01:12.53)
OHHH, sorry.
Sean Baker (01:13.742)
They don't really sound like that.
TTFU (01:18.141)
Today, we are discussing the results of the 97th Academy Awards. It was... 97. And they've all been interesting. You guys have watched them all, I assume, right? We all went back and watched them in preparation for this, just to make sure. Every year, yeah. I remember when they first invented the Academy Awards.
Sean Baker (01:22.67)
Can you believe there have been 97?
Walter Lyle (01:31.299)
I've seen everyone.
Sean Baker (01:31.821)
Mm-hmm, yep.
Jordan Gottsponer (01:33.572)
Been there for every year.
Walter Lyle (01:42.019)
Always hated it! Wait, wait, that calls for a...
TTFU (01:42.461)
Like chocolate. Yes!
Sean Baker (01:43.48)
I hate chocolate.
Sean Baker (01:49.152)
I know that one. know that one. Nosferatu.
TTFU (01:54.077)
This... Guys, it's been a long day and this just has been so delightful. Dune. Good. Anyway, it was a very fascinating awards race. It was really interesting to see what happened and we're gonna be talking about that and talking about the weird show where Anora, spoiler alert, Anora swept and we're gonna be talking about how
Sean Baker (01:59.48)
Doing good, doing good for your soul. We should all have bad days before we record.
Jordan Gottsponer (02:03.523)
You
TTFU (02:23.961)
It won five of its six nominations and Sean Baker won four, which is crazy. That was history we witnessed. And we also have a special guest with us, our special guest, introduce yourself.
Jordan Gottsponer (02:38.019)
special guest. Oh my name is Jordan. Mr. guest, if you will.
TTFU (02:40.541)
Mr. Guest. That is a lost name, I guess, so...
Walter Lyle (02:40.685)
First name special, last name cast.
Walter Lyle (02:46.58)
Hahaha
Jordan Gottsponer (02:50.465)
I guess I guessed.
TTFU (02:52.571)
Yeah, you guessed correctly, Mr. Guest.
Jordan Gottsponer (02:56.383)
Hello, I'm Jordan. If you hear a lot of audio coming through my side, my neighbors are doing a lawn party and they've been playing Not Like Us and Kendrick's newest album non-stop. So just a heads up for you.
Sean Baker (02:57.358)
Jordan's following up. Yep.
Walter Lyle (03:12.213)
Mm. Cool.
Sean Baker (03:13.134)
Nice.
TTFU (03:13.341)
They... Why aren't you... I would be over there. I mean, I'm honored you're here, because I would be over there.
Walter Lyle (03:17.313)
Yeah, why are you sitting in front of your computer right now?
Jordan Gottsponer (03:18.019)
I did, low key, did debate about just pop it over for a second, but we have movies to attend to.
TTFU (03:24.88)
I would have.
Sean Baker (03:27.554)
Yep. Yep. so let's do some, just kind of setting the scene for, our viewing experiences of the nine seventh Academy awards. Jordan and I got to nice right, right on time as always Jordan and I got to watch it together. That was really fun. He was coming back from new Orleans, party and art at Mardi Gras. how many, did you go to seven or eight Mardi Gras parties?
Jordan Gottsponer (03:30.883)
Thanks
Walter Lyle (03:38.755)
transition.
TTFU (03:38.896)
Jordan Gottsponer (03:50.38)
No, no, I hit up five parades. Five. Yeah, yeah, Yeah, one, two, three, four, five.
Sean Baker (03:52.92)
Four. Five.
Prime number. So he's coming back and he texts me and said, yo, I can stop and watch. then he ended up crashing and we had a fun time watching it. After I, yeah.
TTFU (04:00.667)
He counted them.
Jordan Gottsponer (04:09.108)
What Isaac didn't know was I just needed a place to stay.
Walter Lyle (04:12.621)
hahahahah
Sean Baker (04:15.96)
I'm always happy when you take advantage of my kindness, because we get to hang out.
Jordan Gottsponer (04:19.807)
In any time you name the place, I'll take advantage.
Sean Baker (04:23.736)
So... I'd... Okay.
TTFU (04:32.389)
It's just so funny every time.
Sean Baker (04:37.345)
Olivia and I made predictions. We got the the old letterboxed ballot that they do every year and I don't know if you have the drum roll sound bite queued up. Thank you!
Walter Lyle (04:40.225)
Yes.
Sean Baker (04:53.474)
We tied. We got the exact same number. counted them up and we both got 14 of 23 predictions. You can end it now, please stop. Start it over. scrap it. So, yeah, I think you whimsically predicted that Dune Part 2 was gonna come through and get best picture and I...
Walter Lyle (04:54.979)
TTFU (04:55.389)
I don't know if I realized that.
Walter Lyle (05:06.977)
No, it's really long.
TTFU (05:08.221)
That's just what it's gonna be for the entire rest of the episode.
Walter Lyle (05:11.907)
We get to yell over it.
Sean Baker (05:22.072)
thought that Conclave would and we were both wrong. So, Anora did. Anora won Best Picture. Good night everyone.
TTFU (05:26.221)
I just, Anura, yeah, I was just hopeful.
So.
Walter Lyle (05:35.671)
My timing is really good on these, I need y'all
TTFU (05:38.802)
You're crushing it.
Sean Baker (05:40.45)
Olivia, where were you when you watched the 97th Academy Awards?
TTFU (05:44.751)
I was home alone, which sounds sad. It had been a long weekend for me. Honestly, the past couple of weekends have been long. It's fine. I'm doing okay. But it was just kind of chaotic day. And I was invited to a friend's house to do a watch party with him and one of our friends. But then he also had several of his friends who I did not know coming. And I was like, I'm just going to watch this by myself. And it was delightful. So.
I was downstairs in my living room having a good time. So.
Sean Baker (06:17.516)
Let's take a quick poll. Who likes being by themselves?
TTFU (06:22.917)
thousand percent.
Sean Baker (06:24.482)
Okay, so it's not sad. So don't say it's sad, Olivia. Just say I was home alone. I watched it. Be confident. I want you, friend, to be confident in yourself and your viewing habits.
Walter Lyle (06:24.631)
I mean... Yeah!
Walter Lyle (06:32.139)
Now what would be sad?
TTFU (06:32.483)
I don't think it's sad.
TTFU (06:36.989)
Did you talk to my therapist today? Because this was a conversation we had today in therapy. anyway, anyway, moving on, moving on.
Sean Baker (06:42.444)
Mm-mm. I should probably be in therapy. Walter, you like being alone? Were you alone just kind of sitting with the TV off while the 97th Academy Awards were going on?
Jordan Gottsponer (06:45.826)
Thanks
Jordan Gottsponer (06:53.279)
Ha!
Walter Lyle (06:56.099)
I don't even know when they were, so probably.
TTFU (06:56.135)
He was asleep.
Sean Baker (07:00.078)
Sunday night to Sundays ago.
Walter Lyle (07:03.341)
To Sundays.
Jordan Gottsponer (07:05.347)
Two Sundays ago.
TTFU (07:05.703)
Two Sundays.
Walter Lyle (07:08.515)
I don't know, what time did they start?
Jordan Gottsponer (07:09.197)
Sunday, Sunday.
Sean Baker (07:11.918)
They start at 530 central, I think. Something like that.
Walter Lyle (07:14.303)
Okay, I was gonna say I might have been asleep, but that's a little early for me to be asleep. Okay.
Jordan Gottsponer (07:15.267)
It was a I think it was 630 central I mean
TTFU (07:20.315)
I think it was 730. Just kidding. I think it was actually 630.
Walter Lyle (07:22.051)
Um, I was probably... I was probably just big chillin'.
Sean Baker (07:22.116)
Yeah.
Big chillin Walter. That's why they call you that. Jordan got to watch most of it. I had to put my nine month old daughter down to sleep and Jordan was like texting me updates. It was like different categories were being won. And so like flow was one of them and then, adapted screenplay or was I in there when editing got
TTFU (07:44.401)
Ha ha!
Jordan Gottsponer (07:53.219)
Yeah, we did something like that.
Yeah, because I was like halfway through the night. So yeah, I think I texted you costume design or something like that. One of the crafts.
Sean Baker (07:57.208)
given to a Nora.
Sean Baker (08:05.582)
Yeah, that went to Wicked. So, just some quick notes. The viewership for this year's telecast was up just a little bit. Initially, numbers came out on Monday, and it said it was down 7 % the viewership. They made it available to stream on Hulu for the first time. So theoretically, the numbers should have been slightly bigger since there's more ways to watch it just than watching it live.
on ABC. But did y'all hear about how people were getting like kicked out of Hulu? Right toward the end, like right before Best Picture and the last three or four awards? Yep. Right, it only happened to some people, so.
Walter Lyle (08:41.187)
Mm-mm.
TTFU (08:44.75)
Yeah, but I watched on Hulu and that didn't happen to me. So I don't know if it's just because I'm better than everyone else. Okay. I'm better than Jordan.
Jordan Gottsponer (08:51.052)
It happened to me.
Walter Lyle (08:52.747)
Mm-hmm. She's better than Jordan.
Jordan Gottsponer (08:54.595)
So I tried to get it on Hulu. When you logged into Hulu, it was not available when I...
TTFU (09:02.311)
So, okay, hold on. I'm confused. I thought you guys watched it together.
Jordan Gottsponer (09:07.007)
We did it on YouTube TV.
Sean Baker (09:09.358)
The details are fuzzy.
TTFU (09:12.305)
You took a picture together.
Jordan Gottsponer (09:16.235)
Well, yeah, we were together at one point.
Sean Baker (09:16.888)
Who's to say?
Sean Baker (09:20.814)
Who's to say that wasn't Photoshop?
Jordan Gottsponer (09:22.935)
Who? Maybe that was AI.
TTFU (09:23.857)
Wow.
Sean Baker (09:25.73)
Yeah. We're leading you, you both down a very lynchian experience. No, we were there together. I don't really, I just, I, I just remember asking Jordan, how are we watching this? And he said you were casting it from your phone, right?
Walter Lyle (09:30.113)
Hahaha
Jordan Gottsponer (09:30.915)
Ha
Jordan Gottsponer (09:41.571)
from YouTube TV, so I try to get on with my Hulu accounts and Did not work whatsoever anyways
Sean Baker (09:43.406)
This is such great content.
Sean Baker (09:48.078)
Yeah. Anywho, so it was slightly up. Conan, I thought did a very good job. Kind of both self-deprecating, but then also very talented at moving things along. Do y'all have any thoughts about just how he hosted? I think some bits may come up more as we discuss different things, but the moment that sealed it for me when I knew that I was gonna love
the rest of the evening and that solidified Conan as a good host to me was when he brought the Los Angeles Fire Department out and they roasted Joker 2's director's house burning down. And Jordan and I both went, my gosh. RIP.
Walter Lyle (10:21.335)
Sorry, I'm.
TTFU (10:37.592)
Yes.
TTFU (10:46.393)
It was good. That was a good joke. Are you saying Conan?
Sean Baker (10:47.906)
Yep. Good joke.
Conan? Did I say Conan? Conan?
Jordan Gottsponer (10:53.527)
You definitely said Conan. Yeah, no, no, Olivia, you're not crazy.
TTFU (10:53.679)
Is that like your s- Okay, okay, I just wanna make sure- Okay, I was like, am I having a stroke? Which is possible. Conan. Conan. Yeah. You just be safe. Cause you're a silly guy.
Walter Lyle (10:55.715)
So I'm hearing Conan.
Sean Baker (10:58.136)
Conan.
Sean Baker (11:02.254)
Conan, Conan, Conan, Conan.
Jordan Gottsponer (11:04.451)
Conan the Barbarian.
Sean Baker (11:06.968)
You know what? I'd just be saying stuff.
Walter Lyle (11:07.341)
There you go.
Sean Baker (11:11.502)
I am a silly guy. Yeah, what did y'all think about Conan?
O'Brien.
Jordan Gottsponer (11:21.5)
I thought I think he's a perfect host for the Oscars.
Walter Lyle (11:23.875)
Did he do a good job?
TTFU (11:25.297)
Yeah, I think so.
Walter Lyle (11:26.849)
I like Conan a lot.
TTFU (11:28.623)
Yeah, I think he did a good job. I missed the very beginning. So I did not see the opening sequence. Apparently that was pretty good. But I did see later that he roasted, what's her face? Carla, Sophia, Garcon or whatever. That was really funny. And I loved that people did not know she was actually gonna be there. And when they cut to her, it was like a jump scare to them. That was good.
Sean Baker (11:45.804)
Yeah, that was really funny too.
TTFU (11:58.301)
So anyway, I thought he was really funny. I did appreciate the the fire, the LA fire department coming out and roasting Joker too. That was good.
Jordan Gottsponer (12:07.651)
What y'all think of the dune worm that he kept bringing out?
TTFU (12:11.133)
I thought that was funny too. What'd you think of it?
Sean Baker (12:14.402)
I hope he has the dune worm on his podcast. That'd be great.
Jordan Gottsponer (12:14.433)
I it was funny too.
TTFU (12:17.597)
That would be amazing. So.
Sean Baker (12:20.174)
If he just, what if they recreated the bit from like way back in the day when he first started late night hosting and he brings the dog out and he's like, Ginger, no! And the dog like shoots. But it's the sand worm. It's like, yeah. Sand worm, no. That's one of the all time like great TV gags. Ginger,
TTFU (12:32.828)
Hahaha!
TTFU (12:37.629)
It's a sandworm. Sandworm, no!
Jordan Gottsponer (12:37.655)
Ha!
Jordan Gottsponer (12:40.931)
Bad saver.
TTFU (12:43.101)
You
TTFU (12:46.886)
It's really good.
Sean Baker (12:50.136)
Did I, in preparation for this episode, I realized, so I didn't realize it when Jordan and I were watching it, but as I kinda went back through my experience, I found this to be true. Not as many really famous Hollywood people as you might expect. Glenn Powell wasn't there. Florence Pugh wasn't there. Meryl Streep wasn't there. Did that occur to y'all, do y'all care about that?
Walter Lyle (13:09.763)
Why weren't they there?
Walter Lyle (13:19.843)
Why weren't they there?
Sean Baker (13:22.52)
I don't know, Walter. They just weren't, okay?
Walter Lyle (13:25.123)
didn't know if there was like,
TTFU (13:26.597)
Well, part of me wonders, I think they've started filming... What? The Odyssey? Yeah. The Odyssey is part of it. I also think that Meryl Streep wasn't there because I think they've started filming the next season of how to... Nope. Not how to get away with murder. Only murders in the building. Yeah.
Walter Lyle (13:29.079)
Is there tea?
Sean Baker (13:29.128)
The Odyssey.
Jordan Gottsponer (13:32.515)
Yeah, I would say half of Hollywood's in the Odyssey, right?
Sean Baker (13:50.126)
how to get away with murder in this building.
Sean Baker (13:54.722)
Selena was there.
Jordan Gottsponer (13:56.77)
Well, yeah, she was in Amelia Perez.
TTFU (13:57.177)
Yeah, because she's... yeah.
Sean Baker (13:59.714)
Yeah.
Jordan Gottsponer (14:03.041)
I definitely noticed that during the ceremony, like they only were cutting to like the main people who were in the movies that were nominated, which you should, you should pay attention to the people playing in the films that are being nominated. But yeah, I noticed a lack of like, quote, star power.
TTFU (14:10.716)
Mm-hmm.
TTFU (14:22.491)
Yeah. What do you think that means? Anything? Doesn't matter?
Sean Baker (14:24.878)
no, think, I think it could, it could be like a, it's not, you know, it's not as special as it used to be. It's not like truly Hollywood's prom night. I do think that.
TTFU (14:40.177)
Mm-hmm.
Sean Baker (14:44.526)
filming schedules probably has a big role to play. The Odyssey is going to be so big y'all. And that is a huge, huge cast like Anne Hathaway, Zendaya, Tom Holland, Matt Damon, I don't know. All these people, all these really, really famous people are in that movie and I think that that actually has more of role to play in it than we may anticipate. Anyway, just wanted to point it out. Also,
TTFU (14:50.951)
Guys, I can't wait.
TTFU (15:03.527)
Mm-hmm.
TTFU (15:09.467)
Mm-hmm. Yeah.
Sean Baker (15:12.946)
There were apparently two movie trailers, ballerina and the amateur. And usually there are lot of movie trailers during the Oscars. That was pointed out to me, like, or that was pointed out when I was preparing for this episode as well. And I thought that was weird. And I kind of, that's a weird vibe for like, Hey, movies are great and everybody should go see movies. And then there's two trailers for kind of.
what are gonna be, I anticipate, action movies.
TTFU (15:47.517)
Is Just two? That played the whole time? I didn't realize that. That's really fascinating. Do... I might want to open it and someone just coughed and threw me off. So... Anyway, I'm upstairs, so it's fine. Right? It's fine. Anyway, moving on. Going back to this. Sorry, everyone. No... I'll blink. Yeah, I'll blink if I need to. I will s-
Walter Lyle (16:05.699)
I'm sure it's fine.
Sean Baker (16:08.046)
You
No, Sparatu. He's like...
Jordan Gottsponer (16:11.885)
Blakey, you need help?
Walter Lyle (16:12.643)
Noooo
TTFU (16:17.117)
I'll scream nose for autobot if I need help.
Sean Baker (16:20.251)
TTFU (16:24.336)
Anyway.
Do we think Hollywood is kind of over itself and like doesn't care about movies? No, maybe not itself, but maybe over movies, caring about movies. Does that make sense?
Walter Lyle (16:38.487)
I am.
Sean Baker (16:38.766)
They don't care about movies, they only care about themselves.
TTFU (16:39.517)
Yeah, we know. Yeah.
Sean Baker (16:43.522)
I think so. think that might be an accurate take.
Sean Baker (16:51.884)
I thought Defying Gravity was really good. I thought that was a really fun way to open the night and kind of like pay tribute to the Wizard of Oz and a damn good musical number, you know?
TTFU (17:03.258)
Yeah.
TTFU (17:07.207)
Did you ever watch it? Wicked. Right. No, no, no, no. I just, I was asking because it was one of the movies that was nominated in lots of categories. And so was just curious. I wasn't trying to call you out. I was just curious, like, have you seen it yet? So, but you haven't. It is a, it's a phenomenal movie, like musical number. Yeah.
Sean Baker (17:08.994)
Watch what? No, but I know that number. Yeah.
Jordan Gottsponer (17:11.523)
Called out.
Sean Baker (17:23.48)
Sure, yep.
No, I haven't. I'll-
Yeah, yeah, it's incredible. And they were great. And Ariana Grande and Cynthia Erivo, great way to open it. And I was, I was pleased. Now, James Bond tribute. Let's talk about it.
TTFU (17:43.291)
I didn't see this.
TTFU (17:47.195)
It was weird. Everyone had really bad reactions to it though, right?
Sean Baker (17:51.182)
Jordan, did you see it?
Jordan Gottsponer (17:53.252)
I remember checking out. I remember it came on and I was like, what's happening?
Sean Baker (17:58.846)
I was taking, yeah, I passed through when it was going on. And you said, there's Doja Cat.
Walter Lyle (18:02.701)
Can I say something crazy?
Jordan Gottsponer (18:02.977)
And I... Yeah, we were like, there's Doja Cat, yeah.
TTFU (18:05.723)
Say something crazy. What? In the tribute for James Bond? Proof-froomed.
Sean Baker (18:09.452)
Yeah, she per- she perf- she performed Diamonds are Forever, think. She perfermed! Target, do you cut, perfermed!
Walter Lyle (18:12.712)
She be fine.
Jordan Gottsponer (18:13.827)
There's your cat perfumed. Little Swedish chef came out of there.
TTFU (18:15.613)
You
Sean Baker (18:22.188)
Yeah
Walter Lyle (18:24.227)
Did you get perfumed? The James Byrne tree beat. Earth to Earth Scars 2020 fame.
Jordan Gottsponer (18:24.759)
Yes, we have a perfect.
Jordan Gottsponer (18:32.291)
gonna raise a tree, babe.
Sean Baker (18:32.386)
Welcome to Turgid.
Sean Baker (18:37.816)
That's Sant Olivia.
Man
TTFU (18:43.709)
Shit!
Jordan Gottsponer (18:45.731)
You
Sean Baker (18:45.998)
Don't you care?
Sean Baker (18:55.128)
Ooh, that was good.
TTFU (18:56.925)
my god
Walter Lyle (18:57.731)
Hehehehehe
Jordan Gottsponer (19:00.515)
Yeah, yeah, it's really warm in here.
Sean Baker (19:00.886)
It is actually really hot up here, I kinda wanna take my sweatshirt off. Yeah.
TTFU (19:02.637)
It's- it is really warm in my office.
Walter Lyle (19:02.967)
D-D-Dir-Dirger Kurt.
TTFU (19:08.58)
my gosh. Anyway, Doja Cat performed.
Walter Lyle (19:11.031)
Yeah, Durgicurd is good.
Sean Baker (19:13.358)
Ray Ray did skyfall. I'm just gonna keep I gotta keep going Ray did skyfall and I thought she was pretty good But it was weird. Like why did we? Why why did it happen in this year? We didn't have a Bond film. It was recently announced that Amazon paid Wild amounts of money to get creative control of that franchise and they're gonna butcher it like they have Lord of the Rings and It's gonna be a soulless cash grab
TTFU (19:20.199)
Good, someone needs to. Okay.
Sean Baker (19:43.91)
And Jeff Bezos was quoted as saying, I don't care how much money it takes, I want you to get rid of Barbara Broccoli. And then this happens and it's not the year that we get No Time to Die where Daniel Craig's James Bond is killed off. just, none of it makes sense. And it takes up space and people are always complaining about how long the Oscars are. So did you know that?
Jordan Gottsponer (20:00.726)
spoiler!
TTFU (20:05.634)
huh.
Jordan Gottsponer (20:06.389)
No, I haven't watched the most recent one.
TTFU (20:07.965)
actually didn't know that, also those movies have out for a minute, so it's on me. Yeah. Also...
Walter Lyle (20:11.491)
I didn't either, but I don't care.
Sean Baker (20:12.77)
Yeah, I'm not defending myself. Y'all should have at least heard about it, so.
Jordan Gottsponer (20:15.042)
What the hell?
TTFU (20:18.557)
Okay, I should have heard about it. Okay. I did. I did. You're right. I did. And I stand by it.
Jordan Gottsponer (20:19.465)
Okay... Okay...
Sean Baker (20:20.216)
Okay. Yeah. Hey, you said I was full of shit earlier! Hey, you shut up! Yeah. No, it's fine.
Jordan Gottsponer (20:24.483)
There's a bit of mercy.
Sean Baker (20:29.742)
So moving on. Okay, okay, wait, wait, here's a good little segue. I did not see, I saw all of the nominees except for best picture, except Wicked and I'm still here.
TTFU (20:36.102)
Okay.
TTFU (20:48.062)
wow, I'm impressed.
Sean Baker (20:48.834)
Yep, I saw eight. wait, yeah. Seven.
Jordan Gottsponer (20:49.347)
Whoa, okay.
Sean Baker (20:56.974)
How many did you guys see?
Jordan Gottsponer (20:59.107)
I saw seven.
TTFU (20:59.453)
6.
Jordan Gottsponer (21:03.639)
Wait, how many did you say, Olivia?
TTFU (21:03.759)
Yeah, I think I saw a six. Six, I think.
Sean Baker (21:03.95)
So you miss, yeah, you miss.
There were nine nominees, I think.
Walter Lyle (21:09.879)
You said I have best picture nominees? I saw two! Hey, that's probably more than usual, right?
TTFU (21:16.849)
Hey!
Sean Baker (21:17.41)
Which ones did you see? Doon, Doon part two. Nice. Jordan, I wish we need to find the, the, the, the, the texts that Walter was like live texting his substance experience. He was watching it on another monitor while he was editing pictures during the day. And he was like, this is gross. What the hell? my gosh. And I said, dude, just watch the movie. And he just like, would it stop?
Walter Lyle (21:18.679)
The Substance and Dune Part 2. Yeah.
Jordan Gottsponer (21:21.027)
Okay, well.
TTFU (21:35.261)
yeah.
Jordan Gottsponer (21:36.298)
Ha
Jordan Gottsponer (21:40.171)
Ha
Sean Baker (21:45.006)
processing how he felt about what he was seeing.
Walter Lyle (21:47.043)
And I like, at one point, at one point like I took my lunch break during the day and I was like, I had to pause the movie while I ate lunch because I can't eat while I'm watching this. I did, no, yeah, I watched the whole thing. it was crazy.
TTFU (21:53.799)
That makes sense, that makes sense. Here's-
Jordan Gottsponer (21:55.374)
Did you get through the whole movie? To the end? The end is gnarly.
TTFU (22:03.343)
If I could have live texted you guys my thoughts as I was watching it, I would have, a thousand percent. But I was in a theater, and I have class.
Walter Lyle (22:09.015)
Yeah, you know theater. Listen, unrelated question. If I started an aura, does that count?
Sean Baker (22:13.558)
Okay. I am a professor.
Jordan Gottsponer (22:13.795)
Okay.
TTFU (22:15.835)
Okay. I, well I am actually, so... Anyway.
Jordan Gottsponer (22:16.895)
Hahaha
Sean Baker (22:25.34)
no.
Jordan Gottsponer (22:25.387)
No.
TTFU (22:26.649)
I'm gonna give it to you.
Walter Lyle (22:28.109)
Can I get half credit? No, no, half credit, half credit. I got what I needed.
Sean Baker (22:28.854)
No, you're too easy on him, Olivia.
Jordan Gottsponer (22:29.687)
Wait, you watched the strip part and then that's it?
TTFU (22:29.948)
You get-
Sean Baker (22:33.816)
Did you get, did you get halfway through, did you get halfway through it?
Walter turned it off after
Jordan Gottsponer (22:41.699)
All I needed was a couple of minutes.
TTFU (22:45.501)
PFFT!
Sean Baker (22:50.712)
my gosh. This is insane. Yeah, Walter, Walter, Walter turned it off after they get together. It's really boring after that. It's about, you know, commitment or what is this about? Was it supposed to be like a class commentary?
TTFU (22:51.569)
unhinged episode this is.
Walter Lyle (22:53.347)
No, I
I'd say it was about to the first half and I was like, this is so dry now.
TTFU (23:11.207)
BORING!
Walter Lyle (23:13.499)
Boo!
Jordan Gottsponer (23:13.795)
Strip!
Sean Baker (23:14.668)
What- was this supposed to be how you can't buy intimacy in a relationship?
Walter Lyle (23:19.585)
Jordan Jordan Jordan went strip
Jordan Gottsponer (23:24.067)
What?
Walter Lyle (23:24.833)
Take your clothes off again!
TTFU (23:26.22)
You
Sean Baker (23:27.842)
I'm gonna... What's everyone drinking? Tea?
TTFU (23:31.485)
I almost got a long drink, but I got a PBR instead.
Walter Lyle (23:32.365)
I got the long drink.
Sean Baker (23:33.526)
LONG DRINK.
Jordan Gottsponer (23:36.715)
Ying-wing, baby!
Walter Lyle (23:36.909)
YINGLING! Y'all are both drinking my college beers.
Sean Baker (23:37.55)
Dang. Y'all are getting lit.
TTFU (23:38.577)
Nice.
Jordan Gottsponer (23:42.487)
It would have been Pabst Blue Ribbon.
Walter Lyle (23:46.563)
No, for real, did start Enora and I did turn off not long after like all the nudity started, which didn't take long. And I'm thinking if I do try to watch the movie again, I might just kind of skip past all of that. Cause like call me a prude or whatever, but just like, just don't need that. I don't need to see all that. So, and I'm sure it's important to the story. Maybe it's not, I don't know.
Sean Baker (23:47.34)
Hey, Heineken? Heineken?
Sean Baker (23:57.268)
I fast-forwarded a lot of that first 30 minutes. Most of it.
Sean Baker (24:13.57)
I think the woke left are really upset with you right now.
Walter Lyle (24:15.907)
Yeah, I think so, dude.
Jordan Gottsponer (24:21.431)
Walter, I watched it with all my doors open, all my windows open.
Sean Baker (24:22.187)
You don't believe in empowering women, Walter.
Walter Lyle (24:25.379)
Wait, y'all both said crazy things. Isaac, what did you say?
TTFU (24:27.293)
You said crazy things.
Sean Baker (24:31.086)
I said, you don't believe in empowering women, Walter.
Walter Lyle (24:31.395)
Isaac, what did you say?
No, I don't.
Sean Baker (24:39.884)
Anorra's lowkey really good, I just gotta put that out there.
TTFU (24:39.951)
And you know what? Why should you?
Jordan Gottsponer (24:42.266)
We need to move on.
Walter Lyle (24:42.785)
Yeah, why should I? I have seen like the other non-sexual clips from Anora, like just the, I could tell the cinematography and the editing was like crazy good, like on another level. Yeah.
Sean Baker (24:53.678)
It's, it's, I think it's well deserved as a win. don't know if y'all want to talk about this right now. Um, if I was going to give it to, if I was going to give best picture to anyone and not just, I did legitimately think that conclave was going to win because it won the sag ensemble. And that could be a predictor for best picture. was with parasite at least. And it was such a weird race that.
TTFU (24:55.481)
Oscar worthy?
TTFU (25:14.823)
Mm-hmm.
Sean Baker (25:24.192)
It wasn't an aura was looking like it was going to win, especially after one PGA and DGAs. Those two are strong, strong predictors for what's going to win best picture. And ultimately they were that proved to be correct. But I just knew that a lot of like conclave made almost a million dollars. A ton of people saw it was quietly very, very popular and loved. So I was just like, I think conclave is going to win it. If I could.
The number one movie that is gonna be remembered out of this group is Dune Part II. And I just don't, it's like, why can't we give it to Dune Part II? We gave it to Everywhere All At Once, Everything Everywhere All At Once, a couple years ago, which I also thought was well deserved. But why can't we give it to this, this is so, in my opinion, such a greater achievement than Everything Everywhere All At Once.
Jordan Gottsponer (26:16.515)
Have you heard the theory that Denis has done something to where the Academy is like blacklisting him currently? So I think that's part of it. I don't know all the rumors and what all that entails, I mean, there's no rea- We've talked about it before. There's no reason why that movie shouldn't have been a front runner, why he shouldn't have been nominated for best director, yada yada.
Walter Lyle (26:16.576)
Well, and it's...
TTFU (26:23.545)
Yeah, yeah, I've seen that.
TTFU (26:42.287)
Also, you're saying Dune's the only one that's gonna be remembered. I think you're vastly underestimating musical theater nerds. Wicked will also be up there, like...
Sean Baker (26:43.342)
I had not heard that.
Jordan Gottsponer (26:52.406)
Amelia Perrette, yeah, Wicked, yeah.
Sean Baker (26:55.28)
I Amelia wicked.
Jordan Gottsponer (26:56.642)
No.
TTFU (26:58.045)
I
Walter Lyle (26:58.499)
Amelia Wicked. remember, I can't remember if we did a dedicated episode for Dune 2 or not, or if we just like mentioned it in like another one. I said something about Dune part 2 where I was like, there has not been, I think it's like the first time since the Lord of the Rings back in the early 2000s that we had like such a huge franchise like reach that level of acclaimed success. So yeah, I was like, I agree with you.
Jordan Gottsponer (26:59.66)
A million.
TTFU (27:20.774)
Yeah.
Walter Lyle (27:27.647)
I don't care, I clearly don't care about the Oscars that much. It doesn't affect how I view movies or like what I think is good or not. But I do think that it had just as much potential as Return of the King to like sweep.
But it didn't.
Sean Baker (27:45.356)
And it's, yeah, and like, you know, you look at timing, past lives was released really early in the year and it ended up getting a ton of nominations last year. the same for everything everywhere at once that came out in March and then April just had legs and then that ended up sweeping everything. So Jordan's, you know, note about. Denny potentially being blacklisted is could, could have some,
Walter Lyle (28:15.467)
go ahead.
Jordan Gottsponer (28:16.035)
I've heard the thing too where people are waiting, the Academy's waiting to nominate Dene for Dune Messiah, kind of like what Walter was talking about, a Return of the King situation. I just don't think they, I don't think they know what Dune Messiah is and how it's not a, it's not a feel-good, well-ending, technically second book, but third movie.
Sean Baker (28:17.016)
Credence.
Sean Baker (28:33.688)
Right, yeah.
Sean Baker (28:43.81)
Yep. And yet, people do think that Dune, I did listen, I didn't read it, but I listened to Dune Messiah, and I remember some key things about it. The way it ends is pretty profound, but a lot of people think that Dune Messiah is God Emperor of Dune, where he becomes a sandworm god that they all worship. I don't know if y'all knew that. But.
TTFU (29:06.839)
you took a long enough pause between sandworm and whatever, I don't even know what the second word was, emperor. And I was like, God, yeah. And I was like, he becomes a sandworm?
Jordan Gottsponer (29:08.001)
Yeah, yeah.
Sean Baker (29:15.458)
God.
Walter Lyle (29:16.899)
You
Sean Baker (29:20.792)
He does, he does, he becomes like, yeah, it is, you wanna have a good time, you wanna cap off your day, Olivia?
Jordan Gottsponer (29:21.443)
Yeah, he does. Spoilers.
TTFU (29:22.82)
What?
I... No.
Walter Lyle (29:29.217)
I don't. I don't want to have a good time.
Jordan Gottsponer (29:30.403)
You want to have a good time? Include a sandworm in your life.
TTFU (29:30.457)
I don't, not like this. No.
Sean Baker (29:33.432)
You wanna cap off your haggard day, Olivia? You go read about God Emperor of Dune Wikipedia page.
TTFU (29:40.034)
No. I shan't. I won't and I shan't.
Sean Baker (29:45.132)
shan't. I won't deny shan't. So anyway.
Would y'all have given it to someone else? and Olivia, what you were saying about the... I think other movies will be remembered, but I think that Dune Part II is the major, major achievement. And I would put Brutalist at a close second, but that's neither here nor there. Wicked will be remembered. Wicked, hell, Wicked could win Best Picture next year. Wicked for good. They could win Best Picture next year.
Jordan Gottsponer (30:20.586)
yeah, for sure.
TTFU (30:23.818)
I really could. I just know that when they sing for good, it's going to leave me weeping. I just know it. And it's going to be...
Sean Baker (30:36.078)
Who do you relate to in Wicked?
TTFU (30:40.959)
Elphaba, 1000%. Like, no question. I'm no Galinda.
Sean Baker (30:50.648)
Would you say we have AlphaClinda energy with the two of us?
Walter Lyle (30:57.847)
baby.
Walter Lyle (31:03.041)
We lost Olivia's audio.
Sean Baker (31:03.938)
Yeah, we lost you. can't hear you. Well, you figured that out. I'm going to, I think the other big thing just talked about best picture.
Sean Baker (31:18.092)
Other than Mikey Madison beating Demi Moore and fulfilling the plot of the substance, I don't know if you knew that Walter, Demi Moore was poised to win and Mikey Madison beat her and it's literally the plot of... It's so ironic. Walter was like, hell yeah Mikey Madison that's my girl, first third of Anora.
Walter Lyle (31:26.583)
Yes.
Jordan Gottsponer (31:26.797)
Thank
Walter Lyle (31:30.073)
And then the young, the young hot girl got it. Yeah.
Jordan Gottsponer (31:32.387)
Hell yeah, America, baby.
Jordan Gottsponer (31:40.867)
Yeah
Walter Lyle (31:41.507)
you
STRIP!
Sean Baker (31:48.726)
Anyway, Olivia, you back with us? I think she's figuring things out still. The, okay. Adrian Brody's speech and his whole thing. got to talk about that. Olivia is still figuring things out, but I. Okay. So first of all, Adrian Brody is like that in interviews. He's rambly. He takes his time. He's intentional, but when he won.
He like was not saying anything and he was rambling and I don't mind that he, kind of like that he told them, stop the music, I'm not leaving, I've been here before. It's an achievement. Very few people have won multiple Oscars. I think that's cool. His speech was just really, really bad and he didn't say anything meaningful. So, I don't know. Jordan, you and I were watching it together. We were just kind of like, ugh, gah.
Jordan Gottsponer (32:44.803)
I think it was they clocked it at like five minutes. Yeah, I
Walter Lyle (32:45.315)
How long was it?
Sean Baker (32:48.152)
Five minutes and 45 seconds? Yeah. It's the longest in Academy history.
Jordan Gottsponer (32:53.891)
I didn't know what to think in the moments when he said when he said, stop, stop, I've been here before, I've done this, you're gonna let me finish.
Walter Lyle (32:55.619)
Come on buddy.
Walter Lyle (33:03.971)
Stop stop, I'm doing something, stop!
Jordan Gottsponer (33:05.635)
I was like, okay, he's telling the Academy, you know, shut up because up until that point they had already played off several winners such as the winners for Dune for Sound and whatnot. They just said they cut him off after 50 seconds and I was like, yeah stick it to him. But then I was like, well the Academy kind of
Sean Baker (33:06.008)
doing something. Yeah, that was literally it.
Jordan Gottsponer (33:33.411)
just listen to Adrian because he's a raise your hands because he's a bigger name and kind of just said yeah we'll stop everything to let him meander for five minutes 45 seconds but we're not giving these other categories the time of day some of those winners didn't even get to speak because they were just playing off it kind of left a bad taste in my mouth at the end
TTFU (33:41.106)
Mm-mm.
Sean Baker (33:54.424)
Yep, it was like a cool thing because he called out kind of what everyone was thinking. If you're gonna reward these people, you need to let them speak. I forget who it was. There were three people who went up for an award and only two of them got to speak because they very abruptly and rudely started playing them off. But at the same time,
Jordan Gottsponer (34:15.256)
Mm-hmm.
Jordan Gottsponer (34:19.04)
Yeah.
Sean Baker (34:22.294)
Adrian Brody's speech was so poor and so-
just like meaningless that it was kind of like, well, kind of sucks that he was the one who ended up having the most time to say what he wanted to say. Olivia, did you get to see all of that kind of when it happened with Adrian Brody?
Jordan Gottsponer (34:35.049)
Exactly.
TTFU (34:40.292)
Yeah, yeah. Is my mic- does my mic sound okay? Okay, cool, cool, cool. Thank you. Sorry for the technical difficulties, especially to Walter. Hope that doesn't screw anything up post production. okay, alright, sorry. Anyway, back to Adrienne Brody. Yeah, I thought it was weird and it was just like, what are we doing, man? Like, I- I- Here- here was my problem with honestly a lot of the speeches, especially with like, the Amelia Perez speeches, and I know we're talking about Adrienne Brody. It just-
Walter Lyle (34:43.149)
Yeah, you're good, you're good.
Sean Baker (34:43.426)
Yeah, you sound great. Welcome back. So glad you could join us again.
Walter Lyle (34:50.155)
I'm furious, but we'll talk about it later.
TTFU (35:09.382)
You have a moment to say something meaningful and you don't say anything meaningful whatsoever. Like he could have talked about like what's going on in the world and how that mirrors the time that the movie that he won the Oscar for was set in and like all these things. And instead he just talks about whatever. I just like, I don't even remember what he talked about. Like, yeah.
Jordan Gottsponer (35:32.513)
That, and that's the point, yeah. It was just meandering.
Sean Baker (35:34.008)
It was stupid. Also, that was, and that was a lot of people's realization that he's married to Harvey Weinstein's daughter. And it's kind of like, wait.
TTFU (35:42.023)
Mm-hmm.
Walter Lyle (35:42.613)
TTFU (35:46.586)
Also, did you guys know? Yeah, did you guys know that at one point, Adrian Brody bought a giant castle for his ex-girlfriend who is now married to Chris Hemsworth?
Sean Baker (35:46.616)
Can we give this to Timothy Schalbe actually? You already have an Oscar.
Walter Lyle (35:49.975)
Ha
Jordan Gottsponer (35:50.403)
Come on, come on!
TTFU (36:05.394)
Just interesting. He's a weird dude.
Walter Lyle (36:06.723)
Yeah. Hmm.
Sean Baker (36:07.138)
Hmm, yeah, yeah, apparently he doesn't have like the best reputation. Again, all this came from some post-Oscars dig digging. I think it would have been more interesting if Timothee Chalamet had won, because it would have signaled a, no, people are paying attention to how Hollywood is evolving. But ultimately, the voters casting their ballot for Adrian Brody,
Jordan Gottsponer (36:08.108)
He's a brutal, brutal boy.
TTFU (36:15.23)
Sure. Yeah.
TTFU (36:29.628)
Mm-hmm.
Sean Baker (36:37.164)
says we're still kind of the same old Hollywood. We like the pianist stuff. We like the, the historical great man, you know, I mean, they gave it to, I mean, Killian Murphy's performance last year was really good, but, that's two years in a row where it's not, it's the same archetype and it's not as much of a, you know, rabble rouser like Bob Dylan or, someone understated like Coleman Domingo.
TTFU (36:41.682)
Mm-hmm.
TTFU (36:49.278)
Mm-hmm.
TTFU (36:58.686)
Sure. Do... Yeah. Do you guys think that Hollywood would rather give the best actor award to an older man versus a younger one, and for the best actress award to a younger woman versus an older one? Have you guys seen people talk about that at all?
Walter Lyle (37:26.029)
Hmm. I mean, now that you mention it, though.
TTFU (37:27.774)
Ahem.
Sean Baker (37:28.482)
Yeah, no, yeah, makes sense.
Jordan Gottsponer (37:28.899)
Yeah, I can see it now that you've talked about it,
Sean Baker (37:32.59)
I mean it was a famous like Chadwick Boseman died and they still couldn't give him an Oscar. They still gave it to Anthony Hopkins for the father in 21 and it's just what are we doing? What are we doing? Come on.
TTFU (37:32.786)
So.
TTFU (37:39.814)
Right.
Jordan Gottsponer (37:42.252)
yeah, they did.
TTFU (37:45.104)
Yeah, and it's just an interesting, I mean, and people I've seen where people are theorizing, like, they're gonna the Academy is gonna Leonardo DiCaprio, Chalamet, like he won't win until he's been doing this. Which is really unfair. It's honestly it's unfair to Leo and I don't even like Leo like that. Because he's a phenomenal actor. And so is Timothee Chalamet. And like, we've talked we all love
Sean Baker (37:56.78)
Yep. That's probably what his game plan has been.
Walter Lyle (37:58.211)
you
TTFU (38:13.886)
We love Timmy. We're big fans of him, right? And so it just doesn't really make sense when he, you know, he put in all of this. I mean, he worked on his Bob Dylan singing voice for five years. He learned how to do all this stuff. And I think Jordan, Isaac, and I talked a little bit about how the AI is used in The Brutalist. And part of that was to...
to change Adrienne Brody's voice. And that feels, it just feels like, are we prioritizing here with the Academy? And that gets into a whole other slew of things. It's just really interesting to kind of think about the way they seem to only really sort of reward older male actors and then reward younger.
Jordan Gottsponer (38:53.804)
interesting too.
TTFU (39:09.704)
female actors or actresses.
Jordan Gottsponer (39:12.067)
I guess I'll play Devil's Advocate for a second. I actually, between the two, I actually thought Adrian deserved it more than Timothy. I thought his performance... Yeah, and in Tim... I get what you're... I totally understand what you're saying, Olivia, too. With Timothy, he's fine. He's more than likely gonna get an Oscar. This is not the end of his career. If we were comparing apples to apple... No more Kintrig albums.
TTFU (39:21.094)
And I haven't seen The Brutalist, so...
Sean Baker (39:21.422)
I do too. I agree, I agree, yeah.
TTFU (39:26.536)
Sure, yeah, yeah, yeah.
TTFU (39:34.632)
Sure. This is it.
Walter Lyle (39:35.191)
Nah, he's done dude. He's cooked.
Sean Baker (39:38.338)
He's turning into a God Emperor worm.
TTFU (39:40.382)
Here's the deal. If the Oscars were real, if they were true, like if they were really like honest, he would have been nominated twice. Because I think his performance... Yes, for Wonka. His performance in Wonka was so good.
Jordan Gottsponer (39:41.516)
Ha ha ha!
Jordan Gottsponer (39:53.015)
for Wonka and...
Walter Lyle (40:01.709)
in case we forgot.
TTFU (40:02.846)
Thank you.
Anyway, but his performance in Dune was so good and captivating and interesting and so I just and he's I Think he's been in what 10? Best picture on nominations in the past. How are many years like? It's that's insane Yeah for sure
Sean Baker (40:28.482)
Yep, he's playing his cards right, for sure. And yeah, I think it's cool that his speech was the way it was when he won at SAG. That was unexpected. And then he just gets up there and he's very bold about his plans. And he said, I want to be one of the greats. I aspire to not just the greats, like...
TTFU (40:40.517)
Yes. Yeah.
Sean Baker (40:53.998)
I don't remember who, what actors he named specifically, but then he said, I want to be as great as Michael Phelps or Michael Jordan. And yeah, Viola Davis, which I thought was super tight, but yeah. And that's why it was more, Oh, it would be cool if he won best actor just from that attitude. Like, come on, that's cool. That's like new and exciting and not Adrian Brody and who I think is phenomenal in the brutalist.
TTFU (41:00.594)
He named Viola Davis.
TTFU (41:04.99)
Mm-hmm.
TTFU (41:16.04)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Sean Baker (41:23.618)
but he also won for the pianist.
TTFU (41:25.968)
Mm-hmm, yeah. Timothy wants to be the very best, like no one ever was.
Sean Baker (41:32.926)
I love our friendship, Olivia. It's so great. He was dressed like the man with the yellow hat. was catching little cartoon monkeys out there on that red carpet. Yeah. I want to talk about one category and get your thoughts on it. To me, the most boring win of the night was Kieran Culkin winning for a real pain.
Walter Lyle (41:34.723)
catch them.
Jordan Gottsponer (41:37.473)
Yeah.
Walter Lyle (41:38.029)
is my real test.
Jordan Gottsponer (41:43.107)
So many monkeys at the Oscars this year.
TTFU (41:46.418)
You
Sean Baker (42:01.55)
That's not a indictment of that performance. It's not a condemnation of that movie. I really like that movie This win reminds me of several years ago when
Judy, who was it? it Drew Barrymore won for Judy? Can you, Renee Zellweger won for Judy. And it was just kind of that whole award season. It was just kind of, she's going to win. And it was just, this is just how it's going to go. And that's kind of how I felt about this category. This is the one where I really am kind of, I have personal feelings about
TTFU (42:23.78)
Un- Renee Zellweger?
TTFU (42:33.8)
Mm-hmm.
Sean Baker (42:46.21)
Guy Pearce not winning for the brutalist because that performance I feel like is even better than Adrian Brody's. is a powerhouse of a performance of just kind of encapsulating everything wrong and sometimes right with American capitalism and how it enables, it simultaneously enables and suffocates great works of art.
TTFU (43:11.326)
Mm-hmm.
Sean Baker (43:14.158)
He is that movie to me in a way where...
the brutalist would still be incredible, but it is not totemic in the same way if Guy Pearce isn't in that performance. So, I don't know, did y'all see a real pain? Do you like that performance? Do you think it's Kieran Colkin just being Kieran Colkin? Speak. Elaborate.
Jordan Gottsponer (43:40.868)
I'll just say I haven't seen a real pain, but I kind of get to your sentiment. I thought Guy should have won that, but we all knew kind of going in, like you're saying, it's like, Kieran's gonna get it. It's obvious based on the track. It would have been probably the biggest twist of the night starting out the Oscars if somebody other than Kieran got it. Yeah, I think if we're talking about who should have won, Guy should have won.
I don't know what else to say.
TTFU (44:15.198)
I did see a real pain and I haven't seen the Brutalist so I can't speak to Guy's performance. I do think Guy Pierce is an underrated actor. I think that he is really good in everything I've seen him in. Which I don't actually think I've seen him in that much stuff, but I think what I have seen him in, he's been great. And he also, to me, I don't know if this is just me. I feel like he is almost like a chameleon and whenever he shows up I'm like...
Who's that guy? And then it's like, this is Guy Pearce. How did I not recognize him?
Sean Baker (44:54.894)
Have you seen the Rover, Olivia?
TTFU (44:57.502)
Uh-uh.
Walter Lyle (44:59.543)
Darover.
Sean Baker (45:00.046)
The Rover might be my favorite performance of Guy Pearce, other than the Brutalist. You should check it out. it's him and Robert Pattinson in a dystopian hellscape. It's really good. Robert Pattinson doing a crazy voice.
TTFU (45:06.942)
okay, I need to watch it then.
Do you I love when he does a crazy voice. Anyway, back to this, back to your real pain and Kirin Culkin. well, we're not talking about it yet.
Jordan Gottsponer (45:17.283)
you
Walter Lyle (45:21.443)
I was about to start talking about Mickey 17. We'll save it.
Jordan Gottsponer (45:24.026)
Oh, I still haven't seen it yet. Shhh, shhh. Stop, I haven't seen it.
Sean Baker (45:25.196)
I got a job to do.
Walter Lyle (45:26.829)
We'll save it.
TTFU (45:27.896)
Stop it. haven't seen it yet. Anyway, back to Kieran Coulkin. don't- people kept saying that. I don't think that that's exactly- like he was just playing himself. I don't think that's necessarily true. I think that he probably shares some similarities with that character, but I don't think it's- I think he shows us a version of himself. I think all actors show us a version of themselves that they don't- that's not entirely them.
Sean Baker (45:47.117)
Yeah.
TTFU (45:57.604)
I don't think A Real Pain is as wonderful as everyone who has talked about it all award season has made it seem. It's a good movie. I'm not saying it's bad movie. It's a good movie. think Kieran Colkin's performance is really good. I really like Jesse Eisenberg's performance in it. I have not understood really the hype. And I love Kieran Colkin. I think he's great. I have not understood the hype around the movie. I... So...
Those are my thoughts on it. I would probably, I think if I were to watch The Brutalist, I'd probably agree with you guys.
Sean Baker (46:33.922)
Yup. To finish up, we're gonna do our first ever alternative Oscar Awards, which we'll do every year, entitled The Waltzies.
TTFU (46:46.942)
Woo!
Walter Lyle (46:48.867)
Just keep going for a second because I gotta pull it up. on. Yay. Woo. Yay. We ca-
Sean Baker (46:50.67)
too late moving on Jordan we're gonna start with you
Walter Lyle (46:55.139)
There it is.
Sean Baker (46:59.554)
Okay, that cut was so violent, wow.
Walter Lyle (47:04.309)
It goes on for nine seconds. If I don't, if I can let it go and fade out or I can just cut it hard, cut it hard.
Sean Baker (47:09.602)
so can't fade it out. Out the door.
TTFU (47:10.366)
Cut it. You've got to cut it.
Walter Lyle (47:12.971)
Out the door.
Sean Baker (47:14.872)
Jordan, can elaborate as much, actually don't elaborate a lot, but elaborate a little bit on your Waltz Awards and then we're gonna move to Olivia's and then me. Unless I need to go to let Olivia put in her awards.
TTFU (47:30.534)
Yeah, I didn't know this was happening. really sorry. Hold on.
Jordan Gottsponer (47:33.091)
I'm going say I only put down a couple, so I'll just go over my couple.
Sean Baker (47:35.576)
To Olivia, to, to quote Scott Pilgrim burst the world. Didn't you get my email explaining the situation?
TTFU (47:41.65)
Hahaha!
Jordan Gottsponer (47:42.093)
Yeah
TTFU (47:45.694)
I skimmed it! Nope, that's literally what happened.
Sean Baker (47:46.442)
And you're like, I skimmed it. And I say, you will pay for your insolence. Anyway, Jordan, take it away. And then I'll go and then Olivia, that gives you some time to add yours in.
Jordan Gottsponer (47:51.043)
you
TTFU (47:55.344)
Yeah.
Jordan Gottsponer (47:58.404)
Okay, okay, okay.
This is going to be real brief. I think first off, can you all hear me?
Sean Baker (48:12.098)
Hey don't stop, okay? he froze. We're here, we're here. Yep.
Jordan Gottsponer (48:14.787)
Can you hear me now?
TTFU (48:15.336)
Don't stop.
Walter Lyle (48:16.833)
I can still hear you.
Sean Baker (48:20.106)
no... right at the... Dude you're just saying up, up, over and over again. Yes.
Walter Lyle (48:21.603)
Did we lose him?
Jordan Gottsponer (48:25.805)
What? Can you hear me now? Okay. I don't know what the hell just happened. Anyways, briefly going to... Please do.
TTFU (48:29.32)
Good.
Sean Baker (48:33.838)
Cool, I'm gonna mark this so Walter can edit it out.
Walter Lyle (48:37.507)
I just texted Jordan and said, we can hear you, just keep going.
Sean Baker (48:41.016)
D-h-h-h-h-
Jordan Gottsponer (48:43.235)
Okay, so Best Original Song, delete the freaking nomination. Why, or category, why is that a category? That's my biggest waltz-y. Just, unless the original song has anything to do with the actual story that is being played out, there's no reason for the category to exist. So, thank Allah, I'm just kidding. Like that was an important song to the story. And also just a great moment in the movie.
Sean Baker (48:50.499)
Yes.
TTFU (49:12.764)
Yes, a thousand percent.
Jordan Gottsponer (49:12.833)
So delete that category. There's just no reason at this point. This goes back to one of my favorite movies of the year, Civil War. Where was its nominations? I would have had Civil War nominated and winning sound design. I don't think I've ever been that terrified in a movie. I remember watching that one and whipping my head back because I thought I heard gunshots from behind me, which is not a good feeling when you're in a movie theater.
Here's my biggest, hot take though, best picture winner, Nickel Boys. I don't think of all seven that I saw, and I'm pretty sure the three I didn't see wouldn't have affected me in this way, I'm still thinking about that movie to this day and I watched it over a week ago. And I think to me, I could go on and on about that movie, but that's like my biggest like...
Sean Baker (49:43.148)
Incredible movie.
Jordan Gottsponer (50:12.243)
My biggest wish was that movie winning Best Picture. Other than Dune Part II, we all wanted that one to win, of course. But if you took out Dune Part II, Nickel Boyz to me should have been the winner. And then, lastly, something that I would have loved to have seen was Best Supporting Actor nominee and winner, Shia LaBeouf in Megalopolis. Auntie, wow! Auntie, wow! What a performance.
Sean Baker (50:36.654)
Auntie wow!
Jordan Gottsponer (50:41.975)
Where was that? Come on, Academy! Jeez.
Walter Lyle (50:46.977)
robbed.
Jordan Gottsponer (50:48.363)
Absolutely.
Sean Baker (50:48.46)
I wanna say real quick, I'm kinda coming around on Megalopolis. I gotta watch it again, cause I think I could be wrong about it.
Jordan Gottsponer (50:57.603)
Oh no! Jump ship while you can! Make a philopolis!
Sean Baker (51:01.003)
Yeah. Anyway. You good? Okay.
TTFU (51:04.562)
I'm good. I'm ready to go. I'm locked in. Ready. All right. The first two are silly goofy. The next three are serious. Best killer dad needs to go to Cooper, AKA Josh Hartnett from Trap. Just, he is a married dad who works too hard, who loves his kids and also murderers on the side. It's...
Sean Baker (51:08.855)
Awesome. All right. Take it away.
Walter Lyle (51:30.317)
There you go.
Sean Baker (51:32.045)
Nuts.
TTFU (51:32.574)
It's just compelling and complex and so good. It's not a big deal. Anyway. Don't we all? Anyway, moving on past that, because I don't want to talk about it. Uh, most likely to give me body dysmorphia, the substance. So... But it was so good. It was so good.
Sean Baker (51:36.078)
It's not a big deal.
Jordan Gottsponer (51:37.955)
We've all got daddy issues.
Sean Baker (51:49.1)
Damn.
Really good. Still proud of you for seeing it.
Walter Lyle (51:52.461)
That's the opposite of the message of the movie, Olivia.
TTFU (51:54.778)
No, it's still... Hey, thank you. You should be. No, no, no. I know it's the opposite of the message of the movie, but also it's really more of a commentary on everything. It doesn't do anything to absolve my body dysmorphia. You know? Such as being a woman or a person truly just existing. Anyway.
Walter Lyle (51:58.465)
I know I am. I am proud of you too.
Walter Lyle (52:11.405)
Sure, sure, yeah.
TTFU (52:20.114)
I think it would be cool if we added a best indie film or just like move towards talking, like adding, being more inclusive of indie film in the first place. And my best indie film would be, I saw the TV glow. Loved that film. So good. I just, really just struck all the right, courts for me. So, and then best score challengers. I don't know. That's not even a question. Like it's, it's, it,
Sean Baker (52:32.994)
Ching.
Walter Lyle (52:47.393)
Yeah, challenges didn't get nominated for anything, right? Crazy.
Sean Baker (52:49.518)
Nope. That's the real reason Zendaya didn't show up.
TTFU (52:50.61)
Did it get, that yeah, I mean really, like had it been nominated for anything, she probably would have showed up, but like, whatever. Anyway, justice for the challenger's score. And then best film was Doom Part II. That's just, just Doom Part II. And that's mine. What are we doing?
Sean Baker (53:08.462)
What are we doing y'all?
I would
Jordan Gottsponer (53:11.437)
doing two popcorn buckets at the same time.
Sean Baker (53:16.238)
Nice.
TTFU (53:17.886)
Nice. Nice.
Walter Lyle (53:20.599)
Take this. This soundboard slow. I was on the draw on that one and it took a long time to load. It took, I'm clicking the soundboard on Netscape over here.
Jordan Gottsponer (53:23.203)
You
Sean Baker (53:24.908)
Yeah, you clicked that like three years ago.
Sean Baker (53:29.806)
What are we doing, Walt?
TTFU (53:32.147)
Ha ha ha!
Sean Baker (53:34.024)
Shit. Dial up.
Jordan Gottsponer (53:34.455)
Just make the sound.
Walter Lyle (53:36.551)
Say yeah. We're all, we're all just old enough to remember trying to play Neopets on Netscape. Yeah.
TTFU (53:37.694)
Ha ha!
Jordan Gottsponer (53:40.707)
You
Sean Baker (53:43.426)
Yep, dial up.
TTFU (53:44.37)
Just... just old enough. Maybe not Jordan.
Sean Baker (53:48.063)
I thought you were talking about tiles.
Jordan Gottsponer (53:48.675)
How am I say, are we? Hold on, I'm young.
TTFU (53:53.502)
okay, Jordan Haldry.
Walter Lyle (53:54.977)
Ooh.
Jordan Gottsponer (53:56.312)
We don't need to share my age on the internet.
Walter Lyle (53:58.275)
We're going to adopt. going to try to dox you, Jordan.
Sean Baker (54:00.718)
He's 17.
TTFU (54:00.744)
Okay.
What's your date of birth? Your mom's main name? I'm just asking questions. I'm trying to get a note. What was your childhood address?
Walter Lyle (54:08.707)
You're your childhood pet. Yeah, yes.
Jordan Gottsponer (54:09.251)
Did say 17? Are y'all hanging out with minors?
Sean Baker (54:09.752)
What was the first pet you had? What's the time stamp that you turned off in Aura?
TTFU (54:19.259)
HAHAHAHA
Jordan Gottsponer (54:21.281)
need to delete my search history BRB.
Walter Lyle (54:21.432)
Strip!
Sean Baker (54:25.13)
okay, my words, costume design, give it to Nosferatu. Why the hell not? Original song, nobody, because I agree with Jordan, this category should be deleted. Clemente Ducol and Camille and Jack Odyard's singing, accepting that award was absolutely disgraceful. If yes, it was.
TTFU (54:25.534)
There's a search history?
Jordan Gottsponer (54:31.083)
Yes! Yes!
Walter Lyle (54:31.212)
Yeah!
TTFU (54:32.178)
Why not? Yeah.
Jordan Gottsponer (54:50.295)
They're French, right? Okay, we need to bring back the guillotines.
TTFU (54:53.47)
And you can tell.
Sean Baker (54:53.838)
Everybody, all of the positive energy left the room for like 30 seconds when they wouldn't get off the stage. can't, yeah for real. They're not making it out. If this category is going to stay, I think that they need to really strictly enforce and encourage. The whole point of this category is that there were lots more musicals whenever the Academy Awards originated, so let's make these types of movies or get rid of the awards.
Jordan Gottsponer (54:59.927)
Bring back the guillotine's French Revolution, there, butts.
TTFU (55:03.87)
That's right.
TTFU (55:19.912)
Mm-hmm.
Sean Baker (55:22.976)
If I had to give it to someone, would give it to Claw Machine by Sloppy Jane and Phoebe Bridgers from I Saw the TV Club. Best Supporting Actor Nominees. Ty between Jesse Plemons in Civil War and Guy Pearson, the Brutalist and Austin Butler for Dune Part II. And I don't give a rat's ass. I'm giving it to Austin Butler because that is an incredible supporting performance as Fade Ralpha.
Jordan Gottsponer (55:29.379)
So good.
TTFU (55:29.448)
So good.
TTFU (55:39.644)
Yes. Yes.
Sean Baker (55:53.26)
You remember that? When he's in the ring and he goes, rawr!
TTFU (55:53.89)
Yes. Yes! Yeah. Yeah. Truly, like, honestly, I would believe... If I... If that was the only thing I ever saw Austin Butler in, I would be like, oh, this guy's a psychopath in real life.
Jordan Gottsponer (55:54.167)
He goes...
Walter Lyle (55:59.809)
You
Sean Baker (56:06.51)
It was my, it was my favorite. Yeah. That's my favorite performance supporting performance of the year. And it, I've told y'all about it on the podcast, but when he sees, Fade Rautha sees Paul Atreides use the voice to silence the Reverend mother. And it's, it like cuts to Fade Rautha for just a second. And he gets this like evil smile on his face. And you can tell that he's like titillated by whatever Paul is doing. And it's like.
TTFU (56:22.974)
Mm-hmm.
Jordan Gottsponer (56:35.811)
kind of turned on, yeah.
Sean Baker (56:35.928)
power and magnetism and I was like, this is a good performance. This is like a perfect performance to me. production design in the telecast went to Wicked, whatever, don't care because they're gonna win a ton of stuff next year for Wicked for good. I would give it to the Brutalist because they didn't have like a shoestring budget but it is impressive that they made that.
Jordan Gottsponer (56:42.179)
I had the same reaction.
Sean Baker (57:04.962)
that all of the architecture look real, given the constraints of their budget and that they didn't have $100 million budget, so I would give it to The Brutalist. It is an incredible looking movie. Best Cameo, but I don't think they used AI for the, all that stuff. Best Cameo, Fred Durst, and Y2K. I laughed my ass off when he showed up. That was super, super funny and I don't even know that much about Limp Bizkit, but I could appreciate that. That was really good.
Jordan Gottsponer (57:14.615)
AI helps.
TTFU (57:25.48)
That was so good.
TTFU (57:33.916)
You don't need to.
Sean Baker (57:35.342)
Best voice performance Lupita Nyong'o, the wild robot. Incredible voice performance that changes as the movie progresses.
TTFU (57:43.826)
Lupita should have at least, honestly, I was gonna say at least two, but she should have 10 Oscars.
Sean Baker (57:45.966)
10 Oscars.
Jordan Gottsponer (57:50.359)
Doesn't she have two? She has one. Okay.
Sean Baker (57:53.262)
She has won. Yep. She won for 12 years a slave. I don't think she has any others. Yep. But she's winning at life. Tell you that much. Yeah.
TTFU (57:54.024)
She has won. I don't sh- I think she just has won. Yeah, and she hasn't won anything since. She should have won for us. She is winning at life. Yeah, she's dating Dawson from Dawson's Creek. Did you guys know that?
Sean Baker (58:09.642)
If y'all could date anyone named after a creek, who would you date? Best score, challengers, obviously. Olivia said it all. Thank you, Olivia. Best director, Rommel Ross. Who won best director in the telecast? Sean Baker. Hey, Sean Baker, you get three. You get three. We're giving best director to Rommel Ross because damn, that movie is directed well. And an incredible point of view.
Jordan Gottsponer (58:10.915)
TTFU (58:17.672)
Yes, obviously. Yeah.
TTFU (58:26.396)
Was it not Sean Baker?
Jordan Gottsponer (58:27.363)
Sean Baker, you, Sean you won.
Sean Baker (58:38.744)
Best picture given to Doom Part II and my Flyover Country award, best representing Flyover Country, is Rebel Ridge.
TTFU (58:45.916)
Mm. Mm-hmm.
Sean Baker (58:48.792)
That's like, I'm just saying it. The Flyover Country Award is the best picture for our podcast, so.
Walter Lyle (58:56.385)
I should watch this movie.
Sean Baker (58:58.328)
You should.
TTFU (58:58.792)
think you would like it.
Jordan Gottsponer (58:58.819)
You should watch movies in general.
Walter Lyle (59:01.283)
I watch. Can I say, I, hey, I saw a movie last night in theaters that half the people in this podcast have not seen yet.
Sean Baker (59:01.678)
Good job, Jordan.
TTFU (59:03.912)
Hey, Walter?
Sean Baker (59:07.8)
He did.
TTFU (59:14.622)
What's it like to be better than me and Jordan?
Jordan Gottsponer (59:15.329)
What is it?
Sean Baker (59:15.544)
That's true, you and I have seen it, Walter.
Walter Lyle (59:16.973)
feels really good. Is this how I feel all the time? Cause I'm feeling on top of the world right now.
TTFU (59:19.268)
Yeah.
Jordan Gottsponer (59:22.755)
I hate feeling inferior. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm going to find a showing tonight. Hold
Sean Baker (59:23.263)
Well, do you get to feel this way for one day?
Walter Lyle (59:26.157)
Yeah.
Walter Lyle (59:29.795)
Yeah, it's past 10 p.m.
TTFU (59:31.217)
Yeah.
Sean Baker (59:32.29)
I've a job to do huh. Nasha, just loved me through all of the bad stuff. I've got to work on my Mickey voice in preparation for our next episode.
Walter Lyle (59:36.649)
Hehehehehe
I was trying to do it earlier today.
Yeah
Sean Baker (59:48.394)
Okay, yeah we can do that. I don't have anything else to share. Would y'all like to say anything else about the, we're almost at an hour exactly, this is great. Any other final thoughts about the 97th Academy Awards?
TTFU (59:48.903)
You can make it.
Walter Lyle (01:00:01.208)
pretty cool.
TTFU (01:00:04.478)
Except for Amelia Perez winning. They got two. Stupid.
Sean Baker (01:00:04.61)
Walter did not watch, noted. Hey, they got one, yeah, whatever. That's true, yeah, yeah, yeah, that one. But you know what? At least they didn't win more. And Zoe Saldana, whatever, yeah, we like her, it's good. anywho.
Jordan Gottsponer (01:00:07.233)
He's pretty cute, pretty cute.
TTFU (01:00:18.44)
You're right. You're right. Whatever. Anyway...
Jordan Gottsponer (01:00:25.239)
think a big win for independent cinema and overall a good, a solid Oscar ceremony and a solid movie year. don't have, other than, million per res, I don't have any complaints.
Sean Baker (01:00:28.78)
Yes, absolutely.
TTFU (01:00:34.333)
I agree.
TTFU (01:00:41.074)
Yeah, same.
Sean Baker (01:00:41.452)
Yep. And we got a great movie year coming up that we're really excited for.
TTFU (01:00:46.857)
yeah, yeah. No one got slapped and almost died this time, so thank god for that.
Sean Baker (01:00:53.24)
Yep. That was good. Walt. That was good. thank you for listening. gosh. Please know, please remember to rate, review and subscribe on your respective pod catcher and give us five stars on special on Apple music. That really helps us out a huge thank you to our producer, Walter Lyle for producing this episode and editing out all the times that I breathe heavily into the mic. Cause I know they are plentiful.
Walter Lyle (01:00:53.815)
We'll get them next year.
Jordan Gottsponer (01:00:55.395)
What am I One can only hope.
Walter Lyle (01:01:00.909)
We're gonna draw blood next time.
Sean Baker (01:01:22.954)
Our art is by Macy Lummis. Our music is by Korden Jocks. They're both Pluto Rock artists and they do great work. Go check them out. Our next episode is... It's Mickey 17. I'm gonna go up and become an expendable.
Walter Lyle (01:01:37.603)
Ugh, I can't believe I died again.
Sean Baker (01:01:40.36)
They're gonna print me out, but it still scares me every time.
TTFU (01:01:40.798)
Thanks.
TTFU (01:01:46.918)
Am I gonna have to learn to do this voice?
Sean Baker (01:01:47.234)
We will catch... Only if you want to.
Jordan Gottsponer (01:01:47.779)
We're gonna have to watch it to, a little bit, have to find a showing tonight.
Walter Lyle (01:01:48.928)
Yeah, that's required.
TTFU (01:01:53.438)
I'm going right now!
Walter Lyle (01:01:53.854)
Hahaha!
Jordan Gottsponer (01:01:56.148)
Announce.
TTFU (01:01:58.162)
Bye!
Sean Baker (01:01:58.318)
Noooo
Walter Lyle (01:01:59.683)
I'm playing us out
Sean Baker (01:02:05.07)
Olivia said bye, I don't need to say anything else.
Walter Lyle (01:02:08.493)
Shut up, the music's playing. Get off the s- Get off the stage! Strip!
Sean Baker (01:02:10.092)
And on that note...
Hey, please stop this, I've been here before. I've been here before.
Jordan Gottsponer (01:02:13.591)
Boo-shoo-oo-oo-oo!
TTFU (01:02:14.524)
This guy stinks.
Sean Baker (01:02:24.275)
Good job guys!