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This podcast is dedicated to changing the automotive industry for the better, one conversation at a time.
Whether you're a technician, vendor, business owner, or car enthusiast, we hope to inspire you to improve for your customers, your careers, your businesses, and your families.
Matt Radder [00:00:00]:
Just keep my nose on it.
Lucas Underwood [00:00:02]:
There you go.
David Roman [00:00:02]:
That is a good way to do it.
Matt Radder [00:00:04]:
Spread the COVID Yeah, spread the COVID.
Lucas Underwood [00:00:07]:
Fucking Scott palazzo.
David Roman [00:00:11]:
Earmuffs, kids earmuffs.
Lucas Underwood [00:00:15]:
Hang on, hang on, hang on. Where's it at? It's in here somewhere, I swear. No, that's not it. No, we don't want that one. No, that won't work either. This one him? Yep. You can't hear it.
David Roman [00:00:27]:
You can hear what? The beep. Yeah. Anyway, Scott Palava has COVID. Oh, yeah, he's here.
Matt Radder [00:00:39]:
By the way, I was like I swear I saw him.
Lucas Underwood [00:00:42]:
I think everybody just avoids got block anyway, so it's not a problem.
David Roman [00:00:47]:
The COVID Yeah, the new variant. Do you know what mutated? No, would you guess? Take a guess. What mutated? It's the exact same virus. One very small aspect of it. Mutated. What the spike protein. Do you know how the vaccines work? I'm not going to continue. I don't want to get banned.
David Roman [00:01:18]:
We do try to put these on YouTube. YouTube's getting crazy. They are cracking down. They're not just cracking down on the couf, they're cracking down on anybody talking about anything medical that does not conform with very set standards. Like, hey, you have to conform with this organization and if you don't, you guys are going to get demonetized. Eric Berg. Dr. Eric Berg.
David Roman [00:01:46]:
He's a chiropractor.
Lucas Underwood [00:01:48]:
A doctor.
David Roman [00:01:51]:
Don't make all the chiropractors mad. Maybe we have chiropractor that listens, anyway, so he's a chiropractor, but he does.
Lucas Underwood [00:02:00]:
A lot of hang on, I've got a very important question I need to ask first.
David Roman [00:02:05]:
Yeah.
Lucas Underwood [00:02:06]:
Did TSA say anything about the tinfoil hat that you put in your luggage?
David Roman [00:02:13]:
Dr. Berg got demonetized on a bunch of his videos. He had the number one video on YouTube about Keto the Keto diet, the number one video. You're talking millions upon millions upon millions of videos. He's got the number one video and that video got demonetized. And the reason is that a lot of his content does not conform with the set standards that YouTube has said are the definitive answers on their truth on medicine and health.
Lucas Underwood [00:02:46]:
He's the dude with the diarrhea thing.
David Roman [00:02:49]:
Does he have a diarrhea thing?
Lucas Underwood [00:02:50]:
Yeah, it turns out that his strategy is if you get the stomach bugger, if you get diarrhea, that if you eat a lot of Probiotics that it will fix it and I don't know, it turns out it works.
David Roman [00:03:05]:
Have you tested on this?
Lucas Underwood [00:03:06]:
Oh, yeah. We give our kids Probiotics if they get sick and they feel better substantially faster. So conventional medicine says, no, it doesn't work. There's no evidence that says that this works. The truth of it is we give our kids that and the stomach bug is dramatic.
David Roman [00:03:21]:
I think you need to talk to your doctor and conform to who standards because otherwise we won't make our $3 on this video.
Lucas Underwood [00:03:32]:
I don't know how we're going to eat. We split the double cheeseburger between the.
Matt Radder [00:03:35]:
Two of us cheer burger. I just went to Mexico.
David Roman [00:03:39]:
We got to introduce our guests.
Lucas Underwood [00:03:42]:
Guest, introduce yourselves.
Matt Radder [00:03:44]:
Go ahead, Kyle.
Kyle Buss [00:03:45]:
My name is Kyle Bus. I'm the shop foreman at Garageworks in Inglewood, Colorado. We're an off road shop in the town, and we do a lot of Jeeps and mopar.
Lucas Underwood [00:03:57]:
Yeah, I drove by it the other am.
David Roman [00:04:00]:
Oh, hold on. We have two guests.
Matt Radder [00:04:01]:
He must have seen the geez, he must have seen how terrible it looked.
Kyle Buss [00:04:04]:
The lack of signage.
Lucas Underwood [00:04:05]:
No, I was just going to I.
David Roman [00:04:07]:
Feel bad that you guys have to work on Jeeps, junkiest vehicles on the job security.
Matt Radder [00:04:12]:
Job security. It's on my name tag. My name is Matt Bradder, owner of Garageworks, employer of Kyle. Not only me, a couple others.
David Roman [00:04:27]:
So you're like, you're the owner and then the person that runs the place, you took them with you and then didn't close the shop?
Matt Radder [00:04:36]:
That's right. Shops open.
Lucas Underwood [00:04:38]:
So you didn't you didn't see the fire trucks racing that direction here a few minutes ago?
David Roman [00:04:46]:
I doubt it wouldn't catch on fire. Somebody might get crushed by what was that crazy story that dude says?
Matt Radder [00:04:53]:
Extinguishers are working pretty well.
Kyle Buss [00:04:55]:
They certify that's my second job title is firefighter.
Matt Radder [00:04:59]:
That's right.
Kyle Buss [00:04:59]:
Put fires. I've worked with and for him that had plenty of fires the first place we worked together. I don't know. I should be telling the story because I think he's a listener, too.
Matt Radder [00:05:15]:
Just don't talk about the place. Good.
Kyle Buss [00:05:17]:
But we were having a conversation much like the one we're having now. And ten minutes prior, he had been welding in the corner. And I'm looking behind it, I'm like, wow, there's a fire over there. That's weird. And then it dawned on me what was actually going on, and I was like, Fire, fire. And we all started running into each other. And then they were fighting over fire. Fighting the fire extinguisher.
Matt Radder [00:05:41]:
Someone should just use it. Don't fight over them.
Lucas Underwood [00:05:43]:
Use them well. So, like, every fire we've ever had is like the very first one literal fire or we're not going to share this with Paul Danner, okay? We're going to keep this to ourselves. Paul shouldn't hear this part. But the very first one was a can of brake cleaner looking for a vacuum leak. And instead of a vacuum leak, I found a spark leak. And the problem was, it was after the whole can of brake cleaner that I found a spark leak. And so my entire staff runs outside, and I'm like, they ran past fire extinguishers to go outside.
David Roman [00:06:14]:
They're like, we're letting this thing burn. That's a well trained staff. Self preservation above keeping the shop afloat. Yeah, I did the same thing. But I wasn't looking for a vacuum leak. I was trying to clean off oil that I just spilled all over the car. And the car was I sprayed all, everything with brake cleaner. Just tons, tons of brake clean the oil off.
David Roman [00:06:36]:
Then I started it. There was a spark leak and then just pretty intense. What should I do?
Matt Radder [00:06:45]:
You sound very accidental.
Lucas Underwood [00:06:46]:
Yeah, I think David probably was.
David Roman [00:06:49]:
No. At the time, I wanted to be a shop owner. Stupid, I know. Now let it burn. Let it go. It's fine. I'm well insured.
Lucas Underwood [00:06:59]:
I'm going to give you a piece of advice. Fire extinguishers, if you expect them to work, when you pick them up and use them, you have to tap them on the floor every so often. If you do not do that, the stuff inside becomes packed.
David Roman [00:07:14]:
So we have to have ours checked once a year.
Lucas Underwood [00:07:17]:
Oh, it does not matter. Oh, it does not matter? I picked one up that he had checked maybe two weeks before and it did not work. He's like sorry. I'm like sorry.
David Roman [00:07:28]:
That's the universe telling you something. Yeah. Hey, that fire extinguisher is not going to save you. You better let this thing burn to the ground. Not yours. Place. Your place is nice. It's very pretty.
Lucas Underwood [00:07:38]:
Thank you. I appreciate that. What about your place?
David Roman [00:07:42]:
It was built in 1929. Was added onto several times. We find signs and things. The wiring hadn't been upgraded. The code people told me that tens of thousands of dollars later how did.
Lucas Underwood [00:08:02]:
That feel to you?
David Roman [00:08:04]:
It was like a gut punch. It was awful. I was days away from going completely bankrupt, as in, I ran out of cars. I didn't have any money, but at least I had work. That was money. And I thought I was a couple of days away from no work and no money. I'm done. Just a couple of days.
David Roman [00:08:33]:
Like that close. You know what I was doing? I was emailing vendors and asking them to can you float me a month?
Lucas Underwood [00:08:40]:
I don't know if you know this.
David Roman [00:08:41]:
You know who floated me a month? Shopware. They're good people. What trash? SMS. Are you guys using techmetric? I'm sorry, what? Hit the button.
Lucas Underwood [00:08:51]:
Have you ever heard of that?
David Roman [00:08:53]:
Thank you. They floated me a month for freezes. Hey, do you know who else floated me? Text me.
Lucas Underwood [00:09:06]:
This is important. I don't want to change the subject.
David Roman [00:09:08]:
The company emails me back and he goes, I got you, bro.
Lucas Underwood [00:09:12]:
David.
David Roman [00:09:12]:
And he floated me a like, I was that hard up. I was emailing companies, asking them to float me.
Lucas Underwood [00:09:20]:
Could you do me a huge favor?
David Roman [00:09:21]:
What's that?
Lucas Underwood [00:09:21]:
Could you stop tapping on stuff?
Matt Radder [00:09:23]:
I was waiting for that.
Lucas Underwood [00:09:25]:
Can you hear, like it's deafening us.
David Roman [00:09:31]:
This is why we wear headphones.
Lucas Underwood [00:09:32]:
Do you need fidget toys? I've got fidget toys.
Matt Radder [00:09:35]:
There's a table out there.
David Roman [00:09:37]:
Yeah, whole table. Is there?
Kyle Buss [00:09:38]:
Yeah, there's fidget spinners out there.
David Roman [00:09:40]:
I can't do. The fidget spinners are just kind of boring. I like the squeezy toys.
Lucas Underwood [00:09:45]:
Oh, they got ATI squeezy toys out.
Matt Radder [00:09:46]:
There with no squeakers.
David Roman [00:09:48]:
Yeah, no, I bought one, though, actually fell out.
Kyle Buss [00:09:53]:
Found one in the shop the other day, my new toy. It's a tennis ball. I go around, bouncing around, and I told him, I was like, if I come out in the shop and I find someone not doing something, if I hit you, you're fired. You're out.
David Roman [00:10:08]:
See, I need a one. Him could just come fire people left and right. I've offered you yeah, no.
Lucas Underwood [00:10:19]:
What, you don't trust my firing skills?
David Roman [00:10:21]:
No, that's fine, but they won't take you seriously. Like, get out of here, Lucas.
Lucas Underwood [00:10:27]:
Oh, they take me seriously. I can make them take me seriously.
David Roman [00:10:32]:
You're going to whip out the Eviction finger?
Lucas Underwood [00:10:34]:
That's exactly right.
David Roman [00:10:35]:
Gone.
Lucas Underwood [00:10:36]:
Give them an Eviction sticker too.
David Roman [00:10:39]:
You didn't give Matt stickers.
Matt Radder [00:10:40]:
I've got a sticker somewhere.
Kyle Buss [00:10:42]:
I didn't get one.
Lucas Underwood [00:10:43]:
Kyle didn't get one. See, this is actually your fault, David. We'll find it.
Kyle Buss [00:10:47]:
I did get to hear you're the.
Matt Radder [00:10:48]:
Sticker guy in here somewhere.
David Roman [00:10:50]:
Yeah. Amongst many, he hands out stickers, like bumper, like business cards have a sticker.
Kyle Buss [00:10:57]:
Something about Matt. He's pretty good at firing customers. Stickers like one of my favorite things about him.
David Roman [00:11:03]:
Customers are fine.
Matt Radder [00:11:04]:
Yeah.
David Roman [00:11:05]:
I have a harder time with employees.
Kyle Buss [00:11:07]:
We do too. We actually had a really hard time.
Lucas Underwood [00:11:09]:
Letting yeah, I want to hear about this story, Matt.
Matt Radder [00:11:12]:
I usually let them fire themselves.
Lucas Underwood [00:11:14]:
It turns out that didn't work so.
David Roman [00:11:15]:
Good that they don't leave.
Matt Radder [00:11:16]:
What if they don't?
David Roman [00:11:18]:
What if they don't?
Matt Radder [00:11:19]:
Then I guess you have to.
David Roman [00:11:21]:
You have to. Yeah.
Kyle Buss [00:11:22]:
The problem with him and I is we're like really sympathetic people, and we really want to create an environment that is full of people we want to be around. And there could be, like, one personality trait that we were really drawn to in someone.
Matt Radder [00:11:35]:
You hang on to that one piece and you're like, well, hey, today. So we'll come in the morning and we're pissed. Right.
Lucas Underwood [00:11:41]:
Ready to do the day.
Matt Radder [00:11:43]:
Okay. Today's the day. Yeah. He's late. Hour late.
Kyle Buss [00:11:47]:
Had enough time to stew on it overnight.
Matt Radder [00:11:49]:
It's going to happen today. And then he comes in and it's like full tilt all day.
Lucas Underwood [00:11:53]:
Yeah. Oh, buddy, I've been there, man. They know.
Matt Radder [00:11:57]:
They knew what they were doing. Right. And you're like, okay, well, maybe seeing something.
Lucas Underwood [00:12:02]:
Yeah.
Matt Radder [00:12:03]:
And then the next day, it's the same thing again.
Lucas Underwood [00:12:04]:
I did the exact same.
Matt Radder [00:12:06]:
You got to write the letter at 08:00 A.m., and you got to call HR. And you got to cancel. You get the last check right then.
David Roman [00:12:12]:
Yeah.
Lucas Underwood [00:12:13]:
So I'm just going to name the person that David needs to fire. So by the time the episode comes out, if he's not firing them, it's.
David Roman [00:12:18]:
Going to be like, what are you doing to me for?
Lucas Underwood [00:12:22]:
It's in your hand. You've been talking about it for six months.
David Roman [00:12:24]:
Freaking weeks.
Matt Radder [00:12:25]:
Guess we're lucky. Six months now, maybe.
David Roman [00:12:29]:
Yeah. This will come out in January of 2024.
Kyle Buss [00:12:34]:
We'll forget we had done it.
Lucas Underwood [00:12:38]:
I remember the same thing. And I remember that recognizing what was happening, the patterns yeah. And knowing that it was not healthy and that it was not working but was not taking action, because every single time I was right there on the verge, I was ready to do it. Boys, they'd change. They'd have a completely different attitude the next day.
Matt Radder [00:13:00]:
When you want to be it's that same hero syndrome, right? That same thing with the business side. It's that, well, I want to be the guy that can help this guy figure it out. Right?
David Roman [00:13:09]:
Yeah. There's some of that there, too.
Matt Radder [00:13:12]:
And you're like, when they're young, I can fix him. I can turn him into the person I was, but now am.
Kyle Buss [00:13:17]:
That's part of it, too, is like when I was a young technician and first in the automotive industry, because you're so old now.
David Roman [00:13:26]:
I'm not that 22.
Kyle Buss [00:13:28]:
I'm 30. But when I was 21, 22 did.
David Roman [00:13:33]:
I get to that.
Kyle Buss [00:13:35]:
But when I was at that age where you're first starting out, you're a loop tech or an apprentice, you don't exactly take it seriously. And I probably did a lot of dumb things, but at the end of the day, I always was really excited to come to work. And you hope that you can inspire someone who is younger, new to the automotive industry. You hope you can inspire them to want to do what you do.
David Roman [00:13:59]:
Right. This TikTok generation. They're goofy.
Kyle Buss [00:14:03]:
It's hard. I don't get it.
Lucas Underwood [00:14:07]:
Yeah, it's tough.
David Roman [00:14:08]:
It really is. I don't know. I had a 19 year old working for me. He did not appreciate any of my jokes, which was a problem.
Lucas Underwood [00:14:17]:
But your jokes are pretty lame.
David Roman [00:14:20]:
My jokes are fantastic. They're gold, all of them. Anyway, it's getting awkward. They're like he's like, I hope they.
Kyle Buss [00:14:32]:
Don'T talk about my job.
David Roman [00:14:36]:
One of his jobs was to torque the wheels of the car. Any car that came in the shop, we torque the wheels on before it leaves. Even if we don't do anything to the car or an oil change, we still torque the wheels because I don't want those wheels coming off. And so you check the torque? Well, he got it in his head that he could just set it to like 100 footpounds, and then that's it. So, he'd walk around with his torque wrench at 100 footpounds, and nobody told him this. He had been to tech school, and somehow he got it that this was okay. And so, at some point, he had checked the torque on the wheels of a Ford something, and the torque spec is like 148 footpound or whatever. It was more than the torque wrench that he had.
David Roman [00:15:25]:
And we asked him, hey, did you check the torque on those wheels? He's like, yeah, they're good. Okay. Did you ask one of the other techs for the torque wrench? No, I use the one I normally use. Okay. But the torque on that car on that truck is higher than what your torque wrench will go. Well, I just check them at 100. You just checking every car at 100?
Matt Radder [00:15:46]:
Telling me this now?
David Roman [00:15:47]:
Hondas. Yeah, little car, like every car. What if it's more than 100? It's like, I don't know where to check. We give you the phone, the torque specs on the phone. We've shown you this. Well, you know what? He fired himself.
Matt Radder [00:16:10]:
I like it. Yeah, it's easier.
David Roman [00:16:13]:
It is easier.
Matt Radder [00:16:14]:
And then a month later, you realize, should have done that.
David Roman [00:16:17]:
I should have done that sooner. Yeah.
Kyle Buss [00:16:19]:
You said something earlier about how you looked at his year to date cost.
Matt Radder [00:16:24]:
Oh, yeah.
Kyle Buss [00:16:24]:
What you had paid him and what.
Matt Radder [00:16:26]:
I think we got.
Kyle Buss [00:16:27]:
And you compare that to things you could spend that money on instead.
Lucas Underwood [00:16:30]:
Yeah, for sure.
Matt Radder [00:16:32]:
Good thing he doesn't listen to this kind of stuff.
Lucas Underwood [00:16:34]:
Yeah, kind of. The last one that was not hard.
Matt Radder [00:16:37]:
To figure it out.
Kyle Buss [00:16:38]:
Yeah.
Lucas Underwood [00:16:39]:
The last one that made their exit from our facility, it had gotten to the point that you could see the good drive. You could see when they were at it, but then you could also see this day that, well, I'm going to spend all day doing a headlight reconditioning. And you could say something to them and it didn't change anything. And it was like, I'm hardest part.
Matt Radder [00:17:00]:
I think the hardest part for me is when that's a tie to something that's likely in their personal lives. Right. When it's not about you and it's not about the shop. And it's just we had one that a full time tech that left the same kind of thing. Do you want it to be what it was? Sometimes you can't get it back there.
David Roman [00:17:21]:
You do.
Lucas Underwood [00:17:21]:
But here's the problem, is that in life, if there is no consequence for action, then we're in trouble. Right. What I figured was as I was helping, but what I was doing was hurting.
Matt Radder [00:17:36]:
Sure.
Lucas Underwood [00:17:36]:
Right. Because I was not enforcing any type of consequence for bad behavior. So therefore, I become an enabler.
David Roman [00:17:43]:
Yeah, that's a good way to put it. You're enabling bad behavior. Destructive behavior. Yeah.
Matt Radder [00:17:50]:
And them.
David Roman [00:17:51]:
Yeah. Well, specifically to them, because you're just eating it.
Matt Radder [00:17:55]:
Sure.
David Roman [00:17:55]:
You're just paying them for subpar work or no work thing.
Kyle Buss [00:17:59]:
For us, too, it was causing us to be wishy washy, and it would have us flip flop on stuff where we would then become inconsistent in doing our own personal tasks. And you give up on something just because you're like, all right, we need to figure out another way to make.
Lucas Underwood [00:18:16]:
This person successful because they're unwilling to do this. So I have to do that. Takes me back to the Nate thing, god rest his soul. When we were going through all that trouble and all that mess was going know one I feel like had I stepped in and said, I'm not tolerating this and he had gone on, I think it may have been a red flag to everybody in his life. Something's up. Right. And I can't be responsible for what dude does, right? I can't be responsible for his actions. But then, in the same aspect, I think about how much further along I would have been with the shop right now, even though he's been gone for years.
Lucas Underwood [00:19:02]:
Because it stopped me from implementing process. It stopped me from truly implementing Dbis. It stopped me from truly implementing the 300% rule. It stopped me from doing things because he always had a problem with everything. And so I never implemented the things because I was always thinking, well, am I wrong or is he wrong?
Matt Radder [00:19:23]:
Sure, you start second guess yourself, question your own spot, and then that does no one any good.
Lucas Underwood [00:19:29]:
Well, I mean, think about how many technicians shop owner comes back and says, we're going to do this and how many technicians are like, right.
Kyle Buss [00:19:36]:
Going back to the torquing the wheels thing, we had a technician who is.
Matt Radder [00:19:42]:
Older than the both of us combined. No, not quite.
Kyle Buss [00:19:44]:
No. But explaining to him that we torque wheels. Every car that comes through the shop, the wheels get torqued. And that was something he didn't do.
Matt Radder [00:19:53]:
Before our biggest I hate torque sticks. Sorry.
Lucas Underwood [00:19:57]:
Yeah, I mean, I don't sure, you.
Matt Radder [00:19:59]:
Can put them on.
David Roman [00:19:59]:
They have a run them on, put.
Matt Radder [00:20:01]:
Them on with that. It keeps you from over torquing it. But that is not the last thing to touch that.
Lucas Underwood [00:20:06]:
You know, even Eric, who's an extremely experienced technician, we've had conversations and like, when he first started, I said, here's what I expect. And he's know.
Matt Radder [00:20:18]:
I don't remember what happened with that. Didn't it happen once? And I said something, or you said.
Kyle Buss [00:20:22]:
I think I went to him first. And then I told you to reiterate because then it just because you saw it happen without we're all on the same page. It needs to be that way.
Matt Radder [00:20:30]:
I know Kyle told you to do this. This is how it works here. This is a hill we die on, right? This is where we buck stops.
Lucas Underwood [00:20:36]:
Absolutely. How many times have you seen shops that lose that process?
Matt Radder [00:20:41]:
It's a consistency thing.
Lucas Underwood [00:20:43]:
Exactly.
David Roman [00:20:45]:
For something like that, though, it's very consequential. Like, you make a mistake on that. You use just torque stick or whatever wheel comes off. That's dangerous. Right now we've got an issue. But sometimes you let go of the inconsequential. Like, I've got a tech that will not check the tickets before he gets started on the work. He sees the part, he puts the part on car leaves.
Lucas Underwood [00:21:12]:
Oh, the oil leak.
David Roman [00:21:15]:
What oil leak?
Lucas Underwood [00:21:17]:
Clips. Is this the tech that didn't read about the clips for the olive?
David Roman [00:21:21]:
Oh, yeah. So he was supposed to put oil cooler lines on. The oil cooler lines had clips on there. Like, check the ticket. Just open the ticket, see your parts list, make sure that's another thing. Make sure you have your parts, because if we forget to order something, you don't want to be in the middle of the job. The car has to leave today. And nobody noticed that the parts didn't show up, right? Check for your parts.
David Roman [00:21:46]:
Make sure they're right. Like, we should do our jobs. We should check everything off. Okay, fine, but make sure they're right. Don't come to me with everything disassembled. Go, this version right, I lose it. You couldn't tell me when you started, like you knew what it looked like. You couldn't tell me before he said, what in thinking anyway? So he didn't put new clips on line.
David Roman [00:22:10]:
Pops off sprays oil absolutely everywhere, everywhere on this truck. And he calls me, he's like, the lines popped off. Did you use the new clips on the test drive? I don't think you even pulled it out. I think you started it. And like, 80 PSI. Just and I go, did the old clips break? What clips? The ones on your part shelf, dear. He's like, oh, I didn't see him, man. Did you look at the ticket? No, I can see if he's opened the ticket.
David Roman [00:22:51]:
He hadn't even opened the ticket. And so it's stuff like that. Okay, so that made a mess. But there were 8000 tickets that didn't get checked before that. Does that make sense? And I'm not babysitting it how many other things?
Matt Radder [00:23:11]:
Tiny things.
David Roman [00:23:12]:
Tiny things you let go along the process there that then turn into something consequential, but you let it go because it's not okay, he didn't check it. It's not that big a deal, but it is. You let it go, and it stacks.
Lucas Underwood [00:23:27]:
I'm going to tell you something. If you let somebody get to the point that they think they've got one over on you or they think that you're not going to do something about it, it becomes a game for them.
David Roman [00:23:35]:
They'll push just to see those are psychopaths. That's a really small percentage.
Lucas Underwood [00:23:44]:
Yeah, I agree.
David Roman [00:23:45]:
I'm telling you what it is, is that they go, this is outside my comfort zone. I don't want to do it. So I'm going to see if they're going to make me do it.
Matt Radder [00:23:53]:
Just test it.
David Roman [00:23:53]:
They're going to test because they're like, Kid, don't do it. They called me out on it. Don't do it. They wrote me up. Okay, I'm going to now stretch myself to make this part of what I do. Or they quit. They fire themselves, or you're forced to fire them, but they'll test. And I think nine times out of ten, the shop owner acquiesces and goes, well, I guess it's not that big a deal that they don't chuck the ticket.
David Roman [00:24:24]:
It's not that big a deal that they don't clock in and out of the jobs. It's not that big a deal. And you start to let go, then.
Matt Radder [00:24:32]:
You don't hold them accountable to it and you don't set your expectations, and then the next guy you bring on does the same thing, even though they are better.
Kyle Buss [00:24:39]:
That's the standard.
David Roman [00:24:40]:
You keep them away from that guy.
Lucas Underwood [00:24:45]:
I don't think that's a very effective strategy.
David Roman [00:24:47]:
That is not an effective strategy.
Lucas Underwood [00:24:49]:
How it worked out for you?
David Roman [00:24:50]:
It is not.
Lucas Underwood [00:24:51]:
I mean, look, I don't know. I've had employees in the past. Have you ever had your kids? Like, they come in and they decide that they're going to help you clean up and they clean so poorly, they make a bigger mess. It's kind of their way when they do it, though.
David Roman [00:25:07]:
Only kids do it.
Lucas Underwood [00:25:08]:
Well, you know what I'm saying, though. Now all of a sudden they don't have to clean again.
David Roman [00:25:12]:
Do you have kids? Do you guys have kids? You don't have any? Yeah, just all you just the four legged kind.
Kyle Buss [00:25:19]:
I've got two dogs, if that counts.
David Roman [00:25:22]:
No, they don't.
Matt Radder [00:25:23]:
They make messes.
Lucas Underwood [00:25:25]:
David hates dogs.
Matt Radder [00:25:26]:
They don't help.
David Roman [00:25:27]:
No, I love dogs. What are you talking about? I hate people that call them who's? My fur babies. It drives me crazy. Like, do you have any kids? No. Okay. It's not the same. It's not the same. Oh, you need surgery.
David Roman [00:25:45]:
That's expensive surgery. Go ahead and put them down. That's what you do with it. Oops. That's what you do. It's so cold in here, dude. That's what you do with a dog. You don't do that with the kid.
David Roman [00:25:56]:
The kid gets the surgery regardless. At some point, you have to put the dog down. You don't Old Yeller your kid. You don't I got to take the dog out back and shoot it. I have to. It's got the rabies or whatever the mange.
Lucas Underwood [00:26:14]:
I mean, I just need to point.
David Roman [00:26:15]:
Out that it's so cold in here, my ring fell off my finger. It's so cold, I'm freezing. I don't know why. You know what it is? Yeah.
Matt Radder [00:26:25]:
You hate dogs.
Lucas Underwood [00:26:26]:
You've got a very cold heart.
David Roman [00:26:27]:
No, I don't hate dogs. What are you talking about, dude?
Lucas Underwood [00:26:30]:
If we went back and listened to you talking about that golden retriever, go over there and sniff that tripod right there.
David Roman [00:26:36]:
It's not that one. I think it's the one next to you.
Lucas Underwood [00:26:40]:
Well, come over here.
David Roman [00:26:41]:
It's not my dog, though. It's not my dog. It's my father in law's dog. I hate that dog so much. Or hate that dog so much he's stupid. He's a pure bred yellow lab. And you're thinking, well, okay, he's a beautiful dog, but he's also inbred. And so you can just imagine, like, the stupidest dog.
David Roman [00:27:04]:
He's dumb. He's dumpy, too, with like, a big fat yellow lab head. And one eyeball is going that way, the other one's going the other way, and he's looking at you and you no, no, I have Forrest Whitaker eye. I've got the lazy eye.
Lucas Underwood [00:27:19]:
No, he's got like, these tripods we're in pennsylvania. And David pulls these tripods out, and.
David Roman [00:27:26]:
He'S taught, I'm handling the tripod, and I'm like, Why? Is the tripod sticky? No, the tripod sticky. And I'm looking at it. I look at the tripod, it's covered in something sticky. And I go, it's dog pits. And the tripod sit in my bedroom, like in this corner where my wife doesn't touch my stuff. I've got this little corner of the bedroom where she just leaves it alone. She knows that's my pile. I pile clothes, and I've got stuff.
David Roman [00:28:02]:
I got everything. She leaves it alone. She leaves me alone with that pile, and I put the tripods there. And at some point, that dog found it appropriate to go into my bedroom and piss all over that corner.
Lucas Underwood [00:28:13]:
So home Slice over here gets him some cleaner, and he starts spraying it down. When he sprays it down, it wets it. And so now the whole room smells, like, getting to this entire event.
David Roman [00:28:25]:
The dog pisses all over the house. He just finds a corner that doesn't smell like piss, and he's like, oh, mine now. And he pees all over it. So now we've got, like, find out.
Lucas Underwood [00:28:37]:
It'S your father in law doing it, not the dog.
David Roman [00:28:39]:
He can't make it to that part of the house. He's got a path. Trust me, it's not him. He leaves his own messes.
Matt Radder [00:28:48]:
Physically impossible.
David Roman [00:28:49]:
It's physically impossible for him to make it to that corner and whip it out and then piss all over the it's not going to be a thing. The dog, however, does it for him. And so, like, proxy, maybe that might be a thing.
Matt Radder [00:29:04]:
Proxy.
David Roman [00:29:05]:
Everybody's told us that the dog needs to be fixed. That'll slow it down at least. Because the dog's not my father in law is like, oh, you'll take out his or you'll crush his playful spirit. What are you talking about? The dog humps everything. On top of that, he's pissing on everything. He's ruined my house, destroyed all my carpet, destroyed the furniture, the wall. He pisses on the walls. We have streams of my poor wife, she follows him around and cleans it off.
David Roman [00:29:40]:
I want to shoot the dog. That's all I want to do. I told George, george, my father. I told George, I said, the day you die, I'm going to shoot this dog, and I'm going to bury it out in the backyard. And every morning, I'm going to enjoy watching my dog piss all over your dead dog's bones.
Matt Radder [00:29:57]:
This started with him arguing he did not have a cold heart.
David Roman [00:30:01]:
I hate that dog so much.
Lucas Underwood [00:30:03]:
Just saying.
Kyle Buss [00:30:03]:
He's not exactly making a case.
Lucas Underwood [00:30:05]:
I just want to point out that he did say he didn't hate dogs. He did.
Matt Radder [00:30:09]:
Just one dog.
David Roman [00:30:10]:
Just that dog.
Matt Radder [00:30:11]:
One.
David Roman [00:30:12]:
Just that dog.
Lucas Underwood [00:30:13]:
I was just curious. I just wanted to make sure I've.
David Roman [00:30:15]:
Been good to my dogs. I love my dogs. I've been good to sweet them. Look, I have this little dog. Her name was Annie. Love, my little Annie. Foofu. This little tiny dog.
David Roman [00:30:29]:
This lady that I used to work with, she found this dog, like, just walking around all like, mangy, mangled up. And she had stuff all in her fur and stuff. And so she decided, I'm going to take care of this dog. So she took her and got her groomed up and got her shots and made sure the dog was healthy. And then one day, somebody got in this dog's face, and the dog bit the person in the face. And once the dog bites a human, apparently, like, you kill the dog or whatever. This dog's like this big. Okay, so the rules, like, don't get in the dog's face.
David Roman [00:31:04]:
There's something wrong with the dog. It triggers I think the dog was half blind, too. It snaps at you and will bite you in the so she's one day we're at work and she's crying, and she's like I'm like, what's going like, we're gonna have to put Annie down. Like, why do you have to kill Annie? It was little Orphan Annie. That's why they named her Annie. Anyway, we're going to have to put her down. I'm like, why? Well, she bit my brother in the face. I'm like, don't put her down.
David Roman [00:31:32]:
Like, we'll take her. So we took her, and I had her for years. She bit my brother in law in the face.
Lucas Underwood [00:31:37]:
He deserved that.
David Roman [00:31:38]:
He deserved it. And I loved her so much more after that. We had this little dog that we kept for years that they were going to put down. I love dogs. I loved my dogs. This dog, however, is awful. Is the worst dog ever. And you can't train.
David Roman [00:31:55]:
You're like, oh, he's bad owner. You can't train. He's stupid. He is stupid. He's untrainable. He's too dumb.
Lucas Underwood [00:32:02]:
Wait, are you talking about your tech or the dog?
David Roman [00:32:06]:
Tech's given up. He doesn't care anymore. The dog, however, doesn't know better.
Kyle Buss [00:32:11]:
Does your tech know where the bathroom is?
David Roman [00:32:15]:
Here's what happens. Sometimes the tech does not like to lift the toilet seat up, which is not a problem, I guess, for the most part. I don't care. Whatever. I don't poop at work, but I don't no pooping at work. That's what I tell my text. No pooping at work, poop at home. Anyway, he doesn't lift the toilet seat up.
David Roman [00:32:38]:
And we have a female worker there, and she does not appreciate it when he just whips it out and just I don't think he even holds. I think he does this thing. He's all over the place. Yeah, he's windmilling it, and then he's done. And he walks out. And then you walk in and you're like, what the hell just happened in here? I clean it most of the time.
Lucas Underwood [00:33:05]:
We had one that and I don't know. I think we never figured out who it was, but somebody like, I know that Scott walked into the office one day and I mean, he was like the color of that cable right there. He was so upset. And he's like, whoever the fuck is blowing this toilet up is going to stop. And I'm like.
David Roman [00:33:28]:
Bro, you all got.
Lucas Underwood [00:33:29]:
Your own bathroom back there for a reason. Because it normally smells really bad. I put in a really high volume fan to make sure it'll almost suck your clothes off if you turn it on and the doors open. You got to be careful. And so he said, no, you don't understand. And so I walk back there and somebody has clearly been standing up pooping.
David Roman [00:33:50]:
And it's like, on the toilet, standing up. Evan Luke I had a one tech, he called it. He would say, hey, I got to go poop. And I'm like, dude, I got a waiter. And he's like, no, I'm going to go hadukin it. What? I'm just going to spread the butt cheeks out and blast it out. I'll be out in a minute. Was it like that or did the guy have, like, diarrhea and he sprayed?
Matt Radder [00:34:21]:
It looked physically impossible.
Lucas Underwood [00:34:23]:
It looked like it dripped onto the toilet seat. It looked like one just went punk and then fell in the toilet seat. Or fell in the toilet. And we suspect it was the same one that we had to change our Internet settings for.
David Roman [00:34:40]:
Why did you have to change your internet settings?
Lucas Underwood [00:34:42]:
Because I come to work one morning and I got an alert. I typically do not look at what people are looking at. It's none of my business. I don't care what you look at on your phone.
David Roman [00:34:50]:
You're paying for the Internet. It's kind of your business.
Lucas Underwood [00:34:51]:
Well, I understand, but I trust everybody that works for me. And so everybody had been saying this one particular person was spending a ton of time in the bathroom. They're like, it is nonstop, man.
David Roman [00:35:02]:
Oh, no, we know where this is going.
Lucas Underwood [00:35:06]:
I got found four gigs.
David Roman [00:35:08]:
Four gigs.
Lucas Underwood [00:35:09]:
Four gigs in less than 30 days because this person hadn't started it was four gigs in less than 30 days to a particular website.
Matt Radder [00:35:17]:
Impressive.
David Roman [00:35:18]:
And so I blocked website, I think.
Lucas Underwood [00:35:20]:
So I blocked it. And then it was a different website.
David Roman [00:35:22]:
And then I blocked that.
Lucas Underwood [00:35:23]:
It was a different website. And then it started popping up as reddit. So everybody came in.
David Roman [00:35:29]:
Yeah.
Lucas Underwood [00:35:30]:
So everybody came in one morning and I was like, guys, I've just got a question. And they're like, what? And I'm like, I know this is going to be super uncomfortable.
David Roman [00:35:38]:
You had the conversation.
Lucas Underwood [00:35:40]:
I'm like, it's none of my business what you look at on your telephone, but the fact that we have enough time in the day to consume approximately 1GB of pornographic material.
David Roman [00:35:56]:
Ear muffs kids, I'm going to have to not play this episode on my kids. They're going to ask me, hey, Daddy, what's this listen, they're still little. They're still little. I don't want to have to explain this to them. You see, when a mommy and the Daddy.
Lucas Underwood [00:36:22]:
I could not imagine him having a Bird podcast.
David Roman [00:36:26]:
Somebody was saying, like, sex. Over and over and over. It was a political podcast that had political undertones anyway. And they were talking about chomos and that situation and like and my daughter's like, Teddy, what's sex? And I said, don't worry about it. And they clicked it conversation with you.
Lucas Underwood [00:36:53]:
And then my daughter, if she pressed.
David Roman [00:36:55]:
I would have said it was smooching.
Lucas Underwood [00:36:57]:
My 13 year old sending me that video that we watched earlier.
David Roman [00:37:00]:
It's terrible. Well, maybe at 13 that's going to be a thing. But my daughter's not 13.
Kyle Buss [00:37:09]:
What did they do when you had that conversation with them? How did that end up?
Lucas Underwood [00:37:12]:
Nobody said a word.
David Roman [00:37:13]:
This is making me uncomfortable. Veer off of it.
Lucas Underwood [00:37:16]:
We had it was complete silence.
Kyle Buss [00:37:17]:
Technician that was spending so much time in the bathroom.
Matt Radder [00:37:20]:
He had a shadow.
Kyle Buss [00:37:21]:
There was a shadow on the wall. Our freshly painted white walls. There was an outline of that person.
David Roman [00:37:29]:
What? From what?
Kyle Buss [00:37:30]:
He's just so dirty.
Matt Radder [00:37:32]:
He wasn't making stuff. Pig pen rolled around in the dirt. He wasn't working that hard, but big guy, close to the wall.
David Roman [00:37:43]:
Oh, and he would press up against it. Yeah, that's a thing.
Matt Radder [00:37:45]:
But he didn't move. Like, there was a streak from his hand, so that's good. His arm wasn't moving. I guess that's a good point. Maybe it was the other the free one.
David Roman [00:37:58]:
That's why he didn't consider it.
Matt Radder [00:38:01]:
Didn't even think of it. I saw the shadow. I was like, okay, yeah, we're good.
David Roman [00:38:05]:
Listen, I don't want to think that that's I've got a tech that spends a little too much, a lot of time in the bathroom. I don't want to even go down that road.
Kyle Buss [00:38:14]:
I have a solution. So I worked at a dealership when I was 2021, and it was probably the most vulgar group of human beings I've ever worked with.
Lucas Underwood [00:38:26]:
Sounds like we love them.
Kyle Buss [00:38:27]:
It was probably my most fun dealership experience. And they were always pranking each other. They'd put drill a hole in deaf bottles, put a tire valve stem in there, and then zip tie the air chuck to it and throw it in a trash can next to someone until it blew up.
Lucas Underwood [00:38:45]:
It would make I love that crazy.
Kyle Buss [00:38:48]:
Sound and scare the crap out of you. Anyone that spent too much time in the bathroom, that was grounds to be messed with. So they would go to Taco Bell and Burger King or whatever and get ketchup packets and put them under the toilet. They would put them under the toilet seats if you spent too much time in the bathroom, and they would do that. And if you ever got it, you knew like, all right, I need to stay out of the bathroom. I need to focus. It was probably an HR nightmare, but it worked.
David Roman [00:39:17]:
The old shop, there you go.
Lucas Underwood [00:39:19]:
The old shop had the floor was charred because it had like a different floor in the bathroom, and the floor was charred right at the edge of that. And so we had gotten to the point, like, you could see underneath the bathroom door just a little bit, and we'd like toss firecrackers and stuff in there like nobody's business.
David Roman [00:39:35]:
Firecrackers dangerous.
Lucas Underwood [00:39:37]:
And so finally I got to the point. My Fodifo, my cousin, he was always in there, and it was always like 30 minutes, 45 minutes, an hour. And so finally we just got to the point. We were taking cans of brake cleaner. And I'm going to tell you what. If you light a can of brake cleaner under the door, there is only so long that MFR will stay in that bathroom. I'm going to tell you what, you cover that floor and brake cleaner and you light it. Going to need to come out and get a fire extinguisher sooner or later.
Lucas Underwood [00:40:02]:
You ain't coming out. I'm just going to be real with you.
Kyle Buss [00:40:06]:
That's a more reasonable approach to it. If you get the motion lights that turn off after.
Matt Radder [00:40:10]:
There you go.
Lucas Underwood [00:40:11]:
That's an idea.
Kyle Buss [00:40:12]:
We had that in our first shop.
Matt Radder [00:40:14]:
And I'd have it face the toilet. It's got to face away. Face the door, right?
Kyle Buss [00:40:18]:
If nobody goes in there for a certain amount of time, the lights go out.
Lucas Underwood [00:40:21]:
There you go.
Matt Radder [00:40:23]:
That's a pretty mental reminder.
David Roman [00:40:25]:
It worked at our first shop. Really? You've been in there for 20 minutes?
Kyle Buss [00:40:29]:
Yeah, well, it was like less than that.
Matt Radder [00:40:31]:
Like five minutes.
David Roman [00:40:32]:
I'm going to assume he's death scrolling and not doing anything inappropriate in there. I'm just assuming he's death scrolling.
Lucas Underwood [00:40:40]:
Does the bathroom have an odor to it?
David Roman [00:40:44]:
Yeah. No, I know there's sounds coming. Like I know what he's doing in there, but we talked about getting like.
Kyle Buss [00:40:50]:
A cell phone blocker just for the bathroom.
Lucas Underwood [00:40:52]:
The cell phone blocking paint.
David Roman [00:40:54]:
Yeah. The WiFi, the tinfoil hat. Yeah.
Lucas Underwood [00:41:01]:
I mean, is it bad that it comes to this?
David Roman [00:41:06]:
What's that?
Lucas Underwood [00:41:07]:
Is it bad that it comes to this?
Kyle Buss [00:41:08]:
That's usually never the problem, though. This is like something else.
Matt Radder [00:41:12]:
We learn that constantly, right? It's like a text in the bathroom too much and what do I do? Why is he not I've been that technician. Why does he not want to be in his bay doing his work? And there's always a problem, right? It's just working through a flag.
David Roman [00:41:28]:
Yeah. I have a situation, though, where that guy does the exact same things at home. Like he's got an actual medical issue, but he will not go to the doctor. I told him it was a b one deficiency. That's what he needs.
Lucas Underwood [00:41:44]:
Old Doc David.
David Roman [00:41:45]:
What's that? It's b one. That's what I'm saying. You take some extra b one. I told him I'm like, hey, you need some extra b one, I'm going to buy you the pills.
Matt Radder [00:41:53]:
YouTube's definitely going to block this one now.
David Roman [00:41:56]:
Oh, crap.
Matt Radder [00:41:57]:
Give it medical.
David Roman [00:41:58]:
No medical advice.
Lucas Underwood [00:42:00]:
I follow what the who says?
David Roman [00:42:02]:
Who is the authority on anything in the CDC and the FDA? All the government agencies. I like them all. Even the IRS love them. I'm telling everybody this. They do know that they created a whole agency, a whole division in the IRS just for pass through entities. S corp, LLCs. DBAs.
Lucas Underwood [00:42:31]:
They're coming for us.
David Roman [00:42:32]:
They're coming for you? Yeah. And they said that we're only going to target multimillion dollar operations. We're not going to go after this family of four making $200,000 a year. We're not going to go after them. We're going to go after the million dollar operations. Except that, turns out, to date, they have audited more low income people than they have because they don't have the money to fight it. They don't have the money to fight it. The percentage of the IRS disputes this because they say that we're sending letters, more letters out to millionaires and telling them that they're being audited than low income.
David Roman [00:43:22]:
The problem is, whenever it makes it to an agent actually doing the audit, that is a higher percentage of lower income earners are getting the agent auditing them than millionaires. It's 1.27% chance of having an agent audit you if you're low income versus a millionaire. Only sees that 1.1% of the time.
Lucas Underwood [00:43:45]:
That's crazy.
David Roman [00:43:46]:
Yeah, like crazy.
Lucas Underwood [00:43:48]:
It is. It is completely crazy. I don't know. I've kind of lost faith in our politicians. I watched this video the other day where a politician was explaining that AR stands for assault rifle.
David Roman [00:44:04]:
You see those all the time. Yahoos don't know.
Lucas Underwood [00:44:09]:
They just don't understand. Just made a complete fool of themselves. I think we have found ourselves in a position where the people that have been elected and are put in power are terribly clueless.
David Roman [00:44:23]:
No, I'm okay with that. I'm okay with completely clueless politicians. It is not the people that we elect. It's not them. It's not them. It's all the people we didn't elect that are also making the rules. For example, we have lots of agencies in Washington that are entirely unelected, that are then passing rules on things like, hey, how much junk is coming out of your exhaust pipe? Like, who elected you to make this rule? Oh, no, I was appointed by no, I was hired by a guy that was appointed by somebody that you elected 45 years ago, and they created this agency, and then that guy's been in the head of this agency, and they just on and on it goes. And we made the rule.
David Roman [00:45:14]:
Otherwise they're going to cut our budget.
Lucas Underwood [00:45:15]:
Right. They have to develop a job for.
David Roman [00:45:17]:
Themselves, and they have to continuously push the standard, because if all of a sudden everything's clean, they don't have a job anymore. Right. So what are they going to do? It's like, oh, well, those standards are old standards. We need these newer standards that's happening.
Kyle Buss [00:45:35]:
Here with the carb compliance.
Matt Radder [00:45:37]:
A lot of the you guys run into any of that?
David Roman [00:45:41]:
We live in the Free State. I live in the Free State of Cambridge.
Kyle Buss [00:45:44]:
Very jealous.
Matt Radder [00:45:45]:
Yeah, it's a nightmare. I mean, we have to catalytic converters. It's crazy. So rough numbers. A cat that would have cost normally $600. Right. Retails maybe around $1,000. Big parts vendors are selling them to us now for 1000 just because it's carp compliant, because they know what they have in stock local, you can order the same thing from Magna Flow, whatever.
Matt Radder [00:46:08]:
Right. And you're getting the same part for $600. But they're like, no, we know what we have. You have to have a carp compliant cat and we'll sell it to you for $1,000. And now the new fake list number is 1700. So consumers sees a huge increase in cost in replacing cats which are stolen daily in Denver as constant problem here. But it has to be a carb compliant cat. So to replace it, what do you do? I mean, you can't just weld in.
David Roman [00:46:30]:
A cat, they're worth more because they are carb compliant, because the hierarchy you're compounding.
Matt Radder [00:46:36]:
The problem that makes it real hard.
Kyle Buss [00:46:39]:
Too is to sell a customer that. So for example, I have a 1993 Jeep Grand Cherokee and it needs a catalytic converter. And I called our exhaust shop and asked what it would be to have it welded in for me personally, and it was around $3,000. And I was like, a car that's not worth $3,000, you expect me to spend that kind of money putting a catalytic converter in just to make it?
David Roman [00:47:07]:
Do you guys have like emissions testing?
Matt Radder [00:47:09]:
Yeah, in the certain counties. Certain counties. So like what they call the high what do they call it? It's a high traffic. Yeah, there's a certain term for it, but there's certain counties in the Denver metro area, denver, Jefferson County.
David Roman [00:47:22]:
Are they actually sniffing?
Kyle Buss [00:47:23]:
Yeah, and they're not just on ramps to the highways. They will have the quick pass stuff, but yeah.
Matt Radder [00:47:29]:
So when you do your emissions appointment, they go in, you on a Dyno, it gets a tailpipe sniffer.
David Roman [00:47:33]:
Wow.
Matt Radder [00:47:34]:
If it's within five years or newer, then they'll just do a quick scan and no check engine light, you're good to go. But yeah, they scan it and they sniff them.
David Roman [00:47:45]:
What's the cut off though? How old?
Matt Radder [00:47:48]:
We do emissions on.
Kyle Buss [00:47:54]:
Forty s and idle DJ.
David Roman [00:47:56]:
Five s.
Matt Radder [00:47:58]:
If it's older than I can't remember the cut off date, it's like 79.
David Roman [00:48:01]:
But your 93 has to be oh, absolutely, yeah.
Kyle Buss [00:48:04]:
Eighty s. I live in an emissions exempt county, so it doesn't matter for me.
Matt Radder [00:48:07]:
But still he can't go to a shop and have it worked on, because if he brought it into our shop and said, hey, we need to replace the cat because it's plugged up. We cannot replace the cat without putting a carb compliant cat. In other words, we're bypassing emissions. So even though his county doesn't subscribe to that, it doesn't matter.
David Roman [00:48:25]:
Did you guys voted this nonsense in?
Matt Radder [00:48:27]:
I didn't vote it long before I moved.
Lucas Underwood [00:48:32]:
Know it makes you wonder. One of the things I've often thought about is there a directive in some of this and North Carolina is doing away with some of the emissions.
David Roman [00:48:41]:
Right.
Lucas Underwood [00:48:42]:
They're backing away. Much of the auto repair industry is saying like, hey, we don't want you to take emissions away. Well, because 1360 safety inspection and they're almost saying they're going to do away with safety inspections too.
Matt Radder [00:48:54]:
We don't do safety. That's why you see all those broke down cars.
David Roman [00:48:59]:
It's like Florida, we don't have safety inspections in Kansas. You don't see the busted cars or whatever. Most of the sketchy cars come from Missouri, which has safety inspections. They do. They have safety inspections. They come over and they're like when you see a Missouri plate at a Kansas shop, 99% of the time the problem is 60% of the time, enforcement.
Lucas Underwood [00:49:22]:
The problem is enforcement because they don't want to charge anybody to do the safety inspection and they don't want to pay the shops to do the safety inspection. 13.60 and like ninety cents of that is the states. And so you're basically getting $12 to inspect a car and so just to.
David Roman [00:49:39]:
Pull it into the shop it's a marketing thing though.
Lucas Underwood [00:49:41]:
Well, I understand that, but I guess my point in saying that is that they're talking about doing away with that in the state of North Carolina. So I don't necessarily have grounds for what I'm about to say. But it does make you wonder if the right people were in place, could they recommend emissions rules and laws and things that force the consumer to buy a new vehicle? Is that possible?
David Roman [00:50:07]:
What do you think they're doing?
Kyle Buss [00:50:08]:
I don't think it's that far fetched. I think maybe I'm wrong, but I think they're kind of pushing that with electric vehicles.
David Roman [00:50:13]:
Yeah, I mean they're 100% doing that with electric vehicles.
Kyle Buss [00:50:17]:
There's a local shop, I don't know. They're north of Boulder, I believe, but they actually got fined by the EPA because they were tuning Hondas and they were selling, like, the Honda ECUs. And they almost had to shut their doors because they got so heavily fined by the EPA for modifying vehicles in a way that would cause them to fail. And it's I don't think anyone's off limits.
Matt Radder [00:50:43]:
Even if you're not even failing. That's the thing. It can still pass, it can sniff clean. But if you modify the emissions equipment, the letter of that law is so.
Lucas Underwood [00:50:53]:
Thin there's no grade.
David Roman [00:50:54]:
That's my point though.
Matt Radder [00:50:55]:
Right. And so my point is if it still passes and it still blows clean, why is it a problem? It's like the difference between one beer per hour and five. You can have one if you still blow under .8, whatever your state is.
David Roman [00:51:08]:
Right?
Matt Radder [00:51:08]:
Yeah, but that's not the same. Right.
David Roman [00:51:11]:
And the person that made that rule was not elected.
Matt Radder [00:51:14]:
Right?
David Roman [00:51:15]:
Yes. That's the problem. You can get mad at the politicians all you want. They're just dummies. They're dummies because if they knew how to do absolutely anything productive, they wouldn't be politicians.
Lucas Underwood [00:51:28]:
You know whose fault this is? This is Scott Bolova's fault. He's a politician and he calls this.
David Roman [00:51:35]:
He is a politician.
Lucas Underwood [00:51:37]:
A bad one.
David Roman [00:51:38]:
My point stands.
Matt Radder [00:51:39]:
All I'm saying is just called him a dummy. He's going to kill us.
David Roman [00:51:44]:
It's funnier if you don't say it out loud. Anyways, he brought the coup on us. Now we all have the coup. What now? I'm fine, I'm fine. I'm a pure blood.
Lucas Underwood [00:52:01]:
There's. Seth thorson. Might as well come on in. We're wrapping up here.
David Roman [00:52:06]:
Yeah, we're wrapping up. Anyway, I'm a pure blood and therefore don't have to worry about it. That's how it works.
Lucas Underwood [00:52:15]:
And there went our YouTube channel.
Matt Radder [00:52:19]:
Shut down.
Kyle Buss [00:52:19]:
Guys are at risk, you're high risk.
David Roman [00:52:22]:
They're not going to demonetize us. You know why? We don't make any money.
Matt Radder [00:52:27]:
Take away what you don't have.
David Roman [00:52:28]:
Yeah. What are they going to don't have.
Kyle Buss [00:52:30]:
To worry about the IRS either.
David Roman [00:52:34]:
Unfortunately.
Lucas Underwood [00:52:35]:
Such a backlog at this point.
David Roman [00:52:38]:
One day they're going to show up. My know that's that's the only thing I will say is I wish Lucas and Dutch Silverstein wild success, because one day I am going to have to call them and go, hey, the IRS is here, I need a check.
Lucas Underwood [00:52:56]:
I've got the David fund going. I appreciate yeah, it's it's steadily growing. I don't think it's growing to the rate which it's going to require to get you out of an orange jumpsuit.
David Roman [00:53:09]:
I just got three letters. It just got three letters.
Lucas Underwood [00:53:11]:
Did you ever wear the orange jumpsuit?
David Roman [00:53:13]:
No.
Lucas Underwood [00:53:14]:
Would you wear it to AST I.
David Roman [00:53:17]:
Don'T know where it is. Probably I would wear it because, you.
Lucas Underwood [00:53:20]:
Know we're supposed to dress up for the go kart race.
David Roman [00:53:24]:
Yeah, I heard about that. I'm not going to participate in that nonsense.
Lucas Underwood [00:53:28]:
You're not going to wear your jumpsuit.
David Roman [00:53:30]:
To the no, I just got three letters. I don't even know what they say. I don't know what they said. They were long and wordy. They weren't a bill. I'm sure it was a demand for something. It'll list the name, address, Social Security number, all the stuff they wanted from me. I don't know.
David Roman [00:53:51]:
You know what it was?
Matt Radder [00:53:52]:
Target letter.
David Roman [00:53:53]:
It was that freaking ERC thing I'm like, yeah, I'm going to try that and see what happens. Shouldn't have even messed with it. Shouldn't have messed with it. See? See what? I tried to get some of that tax money back. Yeah, don't try to get that nonsense. Just leave it alone. Yeah.
Matt Radder [00:54:12]:
Let alive. Thank you.
Lucas Underwood [00:54:16]:
Guys for being here.
Matt Radder [00:54:17]:
Sure.
Kyle Buss [00:54:17]:
Absolutely. It was a pleasure. Bye.