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With Brian Harrington, an OG Bitcoiner, we delve into why we must challenge our heroes amidst the public clash of Trump and Elon, and how Bitcoin offers a solution by empowering individuals to thrive outside conventional systems.
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Hey friend, listen. I know the world is scary right now. Corruption, war, inflation, demographics,
degeneracy, disease, unrest, hatred, and despair. We didn't come here to tell you how it is,
but that it's going to get way better.
Always the best. I love it. Yeah. All right. Brian, welcome. Welcome to the pod. Everybody.
This is Brian Harrington. He is a long time Bitcoiner. He's been around, gosh, Brian,
you've been along years. Brian presently worked for Fold. He used to work for Choice. He's
a marketing guy, a marketing guru in the space. Check him out at Brain Harrington, right?
Like your Twitter?
Yeah. And yeah. So welcome to the show. We got JD, myself. Today we want to talk about slaying
your heroes. Kill your heroes, right? You all hear this phrase. I think it's, I think JD mentioned
it's kind of appropriate considering what just went down on Twitter over the last two hours.
So Brian, I think let's jump off with you in terms of like just the high level stuff. We'll
bring you down obviously to lower level stuff. But you know, the high level stuff is like
slay your heroes. And we have Trump and Elon literally essentially going to war, political war
live on Twitter right now. Why do we need to slay our heroes, Brian? Like what can you tell us
about politics?
Yeah. So I think just that. Yeah. So I used to do political campaigns back in a different life. I
did political campaigns. And as I studied Bitcoin, as I went through the arc of the classic, like
I went through the arc of the classic, you know, elected student body president, voted most likely
to be president, like that kind of like, oh, you can fix the world by talking to people. And it's
talking to people. And it's actually just your idea, like you your idea being presented effectively
to other people, they will buy into your idea, and then your idea will get put into the world.
And that will help the thing. Right. And that's how your idea of politics works. And I mean,
politics, like the news for a way just politics in terms of like, organizing humans together,
you pull that in there, right. And then when I started, when I went to work, like as an adult
on political campaigns for the first time, you realize that, like your, your percent of things
that you can actually go to bat for, for the candidate that you're representing, like, you
know, if you're in the 80 or 90%, like, pretty good, like, that's pretty good. And you kind of
just got to do your best, like on the rest of it, as far as like rationalizing it or whatever. And
and the other thing that I think is really interesting about what we're watching with
trumpeting on right now today is, you know, rich people, like Bitcoin, Bitcoin is tough to wrap
your head around, no matter who you are, right. And so we all go through like a classic story
arc of wrapping your head around Bitcoin. Rich and influential people are not excluded from that
we've watched rich and influential people have to publicly wrap their head around Bitcoin and go up
and down with that, right. Politics is the same way, like when I would work for these different
people in Orange County, they would, you know, you'd have people with means you'd have people
very successful in an area of business, right. And they would say, like, I'm going to be a
congressperson, like, I can do this, I can self fund the race, I'm going to be a congressperson.
And they go through the whole thing. And they get punched in the face by the reality of the
two party system, and the like, nuance of the things and just the realities of like,
that world. And at the end, they're effectively like, well, that game is stupid anyways, like
Yeah, the classic cognitive dissonance. Yeah. And these aren't unsophisticated people like
these are very sophisticated, like, like, very productive, like, affluent, just like,
successful people back a lot of images, right. And I it just is funny that we're almost watching
the same thing happen to you on and like, look, doge and private government efficiency. That was
cool. Like, that was interesting. That was a lot. A lot of things were pointing towards this time
could be different. Um, and I'm and look, and even by your guys's intro, like, I try to lean
optimist as much as I can, as much as I can, like optimism, realism, optimism, I really try to be
that guy. And so um, but it just it just kind of further highlights that, you know, the political
system is like, pretty, pretty entrenched and just gonna continue to do like, be in how it is,
like how it is. And I think if these guys and those two guys together, can't change it at like,
at a fundamental level. Yeah, it's, it's pretty locked in, like, it's pretty locked in on how it's
gonna be. So yeah, that's my thoughts on the on the stuff today. I remember you posted, I can't
remember if this is on Twitter or Facebook, but you posted something was like, like, young Brian,
and it's like you with the geo, like GOP, like, conference for Orange County, and then like new
Brian, it's like you full beard, like you were clean shaven with a tie and then like, full beard,
like black shirt, like drinking beer, Bitcoin, you know, I'm, well, what's completely ironic
about that was that my picture on the on the left was with Neil Kashkari, who is now a central
banker, like further add irony to all of it. I'm curious, what do you see in Bitcoin? That,
that gives you any hope about it, though? Right? Because if it's pretty entrenched, like,
why would it? What difference would Bitcoin make?
So Bitcoin is like, the only thing that I found that I can go to bat like 100% for. And I think
that's why I was saying that about the candidates, like the candidates, right of like, um, and,
and they're even like, kind of pointing that out with Elon, right of like, of the Oh, like,
all the dough steps in the right place. But then it's like, but you got like subsidy stuff over
here. And it's like, very conflicted, like muddled, right. And so that then causes the story
of like, why it matters or whatever to be muddled. And whereas Bitcoin, it doesn't have a muddled
story. Like it doesn't, like people will try to muddle it. But like Bitcoin, Bitcoin fixes this
and the ability to just like, it No, it's like very simple. Actually, it's actually extremely
simple. And the fact that even just regular, like, yeah, it doesn't, you don't have to over
complicate on the story for how it would make the world coordinating together. Better.
Yeah. Yeah. The, the things happening today, like in my mind, the things happening today are just,
we talked about this before the pod too, but, and I've posted this meme a bunch of times.
So sorry for tooting my own horn. But it's just, you know, this endless circle,
we actually have pod about it. It was just this endless circle of like a snake eating its own
tail, right? Like Fiat causes this problem. How do we fix the problem? Well, we got to elect new
politicians and they can wield the ring of power. And then, and then the problem doesn't get any
better, just gets worse. And it just happens to get worse every single time. It just goes
around this circle. And it's like, the only thing that can break the circle is if we stop using
Fiat. And it just takes so much time to see that, like to see the break, like it has to break
people's mind. Right. Yeah. Here, here's the other reason why Bitcoin has a chance to like,
finally break the circle. And it's because the people that buy into it, like as an investment,
yes, but also like mentally and philosophically, like buying into the concept of it,
you have financial upside and there's no other calling out the circle.
What part of the black, like the black pill of like looking at society is when you call out,
like your choices are either join the circle and carve out some sort of financial pie from it
so that you and your family is okay. Or just be like, that game is dumb and extremely frustrating
and be poor. Like those are your choices. And Bitcoin is like, no, literally bet on the opposite
and become rich while solving the circle and helping your family.
And there's not, there's never been a protest. And like Bitcoin, Bitcoin is like fierce. And
I'm not the first person to say this. I think Eric Kasin says this very well. He's like,
Bitcoin is like fiercely political. It is fiercely political while at the same time being
extremely apolitical. And there's, and again, there's not very many, a human brand, a human,
you guys are branding as some, you can't, a human brand can't be political and apolitical at the
same time. Like, cause you can't, because we all attach onto it. And it is what, because,
and again, even Elon, like Elon attached and like was the Republican guy, like Trump attached and
like was the Republican guy. And you can watch and successful people can pivot and switch and
like whatever. But for the season, they, you label it and that's how you drive forward. Like, right?
But like Bitcoin is another reason that gives it so much power. Bitcoin is the most unlabeled thing
in the world. Like you have to, this was a, this was a George McHale thing. He's like,
you have to have an opinion about it. Like, it's like Kanye or Jesus. Like you have to have an
opinion about it. And you can't, you like, there's no, there's no middle, you can't not have an
opinion. Like you have to choose, where are you on it?
JD, you have something to add?
It's kind of hard to follow up Kanye or Jesus, but I'll try. I agree with that completely. And
it's actually Elon or Trump, right? I think one of the unique attributes of this actually
entire debate is who Elon is, is kind of completely out there in the open, right?
All this stuff with Ashley Sinclair, all this stuff with, you know, just kind of his baby
mamas, like it's kind of out there. He doesn't deny it. He doesn't ever like hide anything in
any way, shape or form as far as we're aware, right? Like he's pretty public.
Don't mention Tesla Q, but whatever.
But in the same way, like Trump was a similar boat, but he had like a little more skeletons
in his closet that were, you know, protected by larger like NDAs, like Stormy Daniels and
all that stuff. And so where I'm going with this is slaying your heroes has to happen if you're
trying to be true to whatever you're trying to be true to, because no one is perfect except
for Jesus Christ. And why that is important is like even Satoshi, right? Satoshi, he, she, they,
them, whatever, you know, wasn't perfect in that there are flaws in Bitcoin, right?
Chakaru, like it's had to be developed and continue to mature and change as the world has
changed. And so I think the, the most important quote of, you know, the last 20 years was in
The Dark Knight, which where you had Harvey Dent kind of talk about, it's like, you know,
you either die the hero, you live long enough to see yourself become the villain. And that's
kind of what we're seeing play out in real time is Elon had this very, very specific reason for
getting political that he parroted over and over and over again, which is if I do not help Trump
win, we don't get to Mars and humanity dies. That was his belief. And so it was very, very specific.
And so in this same vein, that was his political North Star, which was, if, you know, we don't
do something, then we're not going to get there. And I argue that actually he's being very true to
that same North Star, because again, it's like for him, it's Mars, look at his companies,
you know, boring company, they're going to be able to dig tunnels underneath the ground on Mars to be
able to connect all these different, like Mars habs that they're going to create, right? Optimists,
that's how you actually get around Mars with electric vehicles, because you can't, you know,
refine anything that you find on Mars, because we don't know what the heck is up there. And,
you know, SpaceX, like he's very, very true to the North Star that he's trying to create.
And I would argue what happened today is the exact same thing, where it's like, hey,
the person standing in the way of us actually getting good things done is Trump. And I'm
actually very okay with this as somebody who, you know, kind of voted that way. Not kind of,
I voted that way twice, three times. Because the point for me was, hey, we need to get out
of this mess. And I think Trump is the best guy to do it. And I still think he is. But on the same
token, truth matters. And so part of my vote in this way, like I kind of, you know, I didn't plug
my nose, but I kind of walked in with open eyes of knowing that Trump had some skeletons in his
closet. And I do believe that if, you know, the allegations that Elon made are true, we should
know about that, like slay your heroes. Because again, you can't learn if you don't know and if
you don't actually like want to learn. So I'm very okay with, you know, this stuff coming out,
if it's the truth, because that's what should come out. And it's like, there should be ramifications
if, you know, what's that is true. And it's like, if they're slow rolling it because of that,
and they're trying to whitewash it, like, you know, shame on you, Dan Bongino, shame on you,
Kash Patel, shame on you, you know, Pam Bondi, like, you guys are meant to uphold truth and
you're not doing that at all. Like slay your freaking heroes, guys. For the record, I wrote
in Kanye on the second one. And I was the first elected GOP person in the state of California
to endorse Kanye West when he ran for president as well. I didn't get up any press traction,
but that's true. I was on I was on OCGP center committee, and I publicly endorsed Kanye West
for president and then voted for him. Do you want that back now after the anti semitism? Or do you
still stand by that? I think all three of those guys are all post brand. What I wanted to say
about Trump and Elon is that they're, they're, like we talked about being post money, like your
post money, and that doesn't matter to you anymore. Both these guys are now post brand.
And so when you talk about when you were teeing up the subject for today's podcast, like slaying
your hero and even yourself, like you have to slay the old version of yourself. Like and I think,
I think in the way you're saying that Elon has stayed true to himself and true to himself,
like through all of it. And like, I agree with that. And I almost think I almost think Trump
has too. But it's hard to follow. And I and I think that's what is the is the knock on him a
lot is that it's it's hard to follow. And it's too. It's too. Like just the classic, like,
oh, it's too brash. Like, we don't like the storytelling or like the whatever, like that
thing. Um, I, and I almost think that that's what is. It's funny, because I almost think that both
of them would agree with even like bond or his meme about the circle. Both of them agree that
it's dumb. And people in the only way to ever actually call it out that it's dumb is to not
need it anymore, which is what circles all of it back to Bitcoin. And it's like, and like in. So
the kind of the other top some of the other topics for today was like, I've tried to talk a lot about
Bitcoin personal finance. And it's like, I was just at the Bitcoin conference, talking on a panel
like what to fire people get wrong about Bitcoin. And it's like the fire people are right in a
certain sense of like, you have to get post money to stop caring about the game, which that's fine
and true. But their way of getting post money doesn't pull up society at all, like everyone
else is still stuck over here, which is the classic thing of like, why, why Bitcoiners are
so obsessed about it. And why like, Bitcoin makes the world a better place like Bitcoin
actually gives the path to the world being a better place. Because if you're so if you're
a single individual, and you get post money, and you get post brand, then you effectively just
become an online shit poster. Now, like that's what you're doing, like whether you're a VC or
a celebrity or like whatever. This is why I've called out that I think YouTubers and Twitter
people, influencers are the modern day philosophers, which might give them too much
gravitas. But that's the same thing. Like what were the philosophers doing? They were sitting
under the tree in the middle of the town being like, why is there a town here? Like, what are
we doing? You guys like look at you're scurrying around all stressed out about about why? Like
about what? And that's literally what we're now watching happen on like the social media all day
social media all day is people that are at work that have jobs, reading about people that are
post jobs and don't need a job or for whatever reason, talking about why are we here? It's like
that's what's happening every day. And so then you have, you know, then you have the very people
that are at the hugely top of that game that are then like making the rules to help the circle
like of life. And yeah, and big like Bitcoin offers a way to you yourself get out of the mess.
And if everyone exits the mess in this way, that's the way that the dumb circle, you know, ends.
Yeah, I love you. I mean, man, there's a lot there. I've never heard the term
post brand before. Like, I can understand post money. Okay, you have enough money to not play
the game. It's like, cool, it makes sense. But post brand. That's like, I mean, in my,
you'll probably have a different taste on it. But in my head, that's basically saying, yeah,
absolutely. Trump, Elon, Kanye are post brand, they can do those when they can do anything with
you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, they can do anything. Because they're, yeah, it's just, there's just
your post brand, right? Like you don't have a reputation to protect because it's impossible
for anyone to tarnish your reputation. Just like it's impossible once you get to a certain level
of wealth to like spend your wealth fast enough, right? That's awesome. I've never heard that
concept before, but it makes a ton of sense. Okay, now in terms of like, the other thing you said,
like Bitcoin gets you, this ties back to an earlier point you had. Bitcoin is this middle ground where
it's you, you get blackmailed on a current system, you either get to play the game and
protect your family, and you buy a house in the middle of nowhere, buy a bunch of guns,
and et cetera, just eject from family once you get it, or eject from reality once you get enough
money, right? Or you go the other route, you just go super poor, homeless, get into debt,
doesn't matter. Because there's no point in living, et cetera, right? There's no point
in participating. Bitcoin is this third rail, the third way, which is, bro, you can literally
fight the system and get paid for it. It's crazy, right? The Bitcoin, I used to have these like
super long discussions with my buddy about whether or not Bitcoin's going to be anything
like, here's the new boss better than the old boss. Like, it's just going to be the same old
boss over and over again. And I was like, dude, there's no way that's going to be worse. I mean,
it's going to have problems for sure, but there's no way it's going to be worse than fiat.
Come on. And part of that is, and there's also like the, oh, well, is Bitcoin going to win and
all this. It's like, bro, Bitcoin funds its own campaigns. And it keeps everyone on the same
page more. So that argument is the best single argument against Bitcoin. Oh, the Bitcoin elite
will be the same as the current elite. Single best argument against Bitcoin. If you're on the
other side of the internet and you're skeptical about Bitcoin, and that's your reason, at least
you pick the best reason. Okay. At least you're hanging your hat on the best reason because,
but here's back to the whole thing. Trump and Elon in the fiat economy in the current way that
the fiat economy works and the fiat social contract works, it's zero, like one of them
has to win at the expense of the other. Yeah. But Bitcoin, Bitcoin like allows both of them
to hate each other and hate each other's brands, but still be functionally tied together.
And that's, what's been interesting about watching Bitcoin drama over the years,
when you watch Bitcoin drama over the years, everyone knows each other. Everyone, when you
have a wallet developers from eight years ago, nine years ago, arguing with each other, it's
because they worked in the same company. Like that's why they're arguing with each other because
they know each other. They know that before everyone had hundreds of thousands of followers
and before it was worth all this money, they knew each other. And so they have regular human,
there's also a lot of churches, also a lot of churches, like church drama, same thing. They
all know each other. They all know each other. And that's why it is, but there's nothing,
there's when there's no economic incentives to help people ever overcome their
like interpersonal problems. Social media a little bit solves this because at least you can like,
like, what's funny is that even the day prior, and I didn't read this whole story, I don't know
all the Barstool characters, but like, even yesterday, there was a big Barstool like public
breakup based on again, people that have very big, powerful brands and lots of people, but then,
and what happens whenever there's a brand fight, people immediately then go for the money,
like try to, you know, capture the advertisers, capture the whatever, like take them down.
And so, yeah, I just think that the point of the story is Bitcoin drama.
People are still locked in together on the same economic thesis.
Yep. I really appreciate David Bailey. And why I appreciate David Bailey is because he has no,
no, he blocks people on Twitter, whatever. Everybody, you know, all the big, all the big,
big pointers do. But the thing I appreciate about him is even if there's somebody who
hates him, or he hates or whatever it is, there's still a space for him,
or space for them at his conference, right? Whether or not they come is, you know,
is neither here nor there. But like, he does give people a space that don't agree with him to talk.
And I would go to this whole like slaying your heroist thing. I actually think that's part of
the defense mechanism of just kind of Bitcoin and a non-fiat world, because that's how you had to
kind of work in a good society. The perfect example is going to be wolves, right? You know,
they used to think the alpha was the wolf at the front. But what they learned was the alpha was
actually the wolf at the back, right? You have these packs of wolves that are walking. And the
weakest are the ones that are leading because those are the ones that you can, you know, sacrifice
in a battle. Essentially, you have like the weak wolves up at the front kind of leading the pack.
And then the second group are like the aggressors. Then you have the family, the wife and children,
and then you have the alpha at the back. But going to slay your heroist thing,
like what's really interesting in that is that wolf analogy is a perfect
description of how a properly functioning society should work, is your heroes should be out front
to be slain because you need to kind of use that feedback in the loop of understanding of,
hey, is this working? Yes. No. Okay. How do we do this better? And I think that's the whole
thing with fiat is the problem we've kind of come into is there has never been the arrival
slash the opportunity for the fiat system to die because it's constantly being put back on life
support. So again, that wolf analogy, it's being kind of like forced into the alpha position at
the back and it pushes everything before it. Perfect example is Japan, right? Like Japan's
usually a leader in terms of, you know, the world economic system going well or not going well. And
now Japan is kind of having this like catastrophic cataclysmic event, but they just keep injecting
money into it. Same thing with China. China has this cataclysmic event, but they keep injecting
money into it. And so, you know, the slayer heroes thing from an economic perspective is we've never
actually allowed the Keynesian zeitgeist to die. And so we've never actually had the opportunity
to try something else. And so it's going to be really, really cool to kind of see that happen,
but it's also so rad when fiat dies. Oh my God, it's going to be awesome.
Yeah, it's going to be wild. I like your analogy because something that I was going to say is that
I think for a certain season of Bitcoin Twitter, the slayer heroes was almost like the,
it kind of fell into the whole like, oh, Bitcoin doesn't mean marketing like stuff and
influencer, like in people of influence, or then it plays into the whole thing about,
oh, then politics doesn't matter. Like influence doesn't matter because we're all,
and it's like, people do matter though. Like that's what's so funny about the whole thing
actually is that it like the people, thought leaders, people that put themselves out there,
say things, develop followings, show patterns. Like part of the reason why in like, I don't
think influencer culture is necessarily bad because now you can find the literal advice
for anywhere you are in life. Like I don't have to read books. I don't have to read parenting books
by people that wrote them 20 years ago and have no idea about the current reality of anything.
Like I can literally watch in real time, other millennial parents, like practicing what they
preach in real time and are, hey, does their family, like, does it seem like they have it
or not? Like, and then you pattern after them. Bitcoin, and I think Bitcoin is the same way.
It's like patterning, patterning after people is like helpful. And so, but then it's helpful
until it's not. And then when you have to level up, you have to kill the old way of thinking
and you're right. And a lot of us, it's very emotional to have to like kill the old way
of thinking and it hurts. So one of the things that comes to mind is at the conference,
there's a side event, Thank God for Bitcoin side event. And Jimmy Song gave a talk there.
And one of the things that he talked about, I don't know if it goes into Slayer Heroes kind
of mentality, but it certainly goes into like the level up, like, bro, you can't just like,
okay, cool. Like you have, you can't be in the camp of do nothing and give up on the system.
And you can't be on the camp of like, get rich off the system and reject. Like you have to go,
like, but you have to thread between the two horns of the bull to kill the bull. And part of that is
like, you have to get uncomfortable. You have to suffer. You have to go like be hard, like be
uncomfortable in the world, level up, level up, level up, get hurt, level up, get hurt, level up,
like push yourself towards, towards the end. Or else it's like, what are we doing here, guys?
Like, if we're all just getting rich, like rich for what purpose, right? For what? Why? Why? What
difference does it make? It's like, no, the purpose is to break this insane circle of absurdity to
finally like kill this snake that's eating itself and never dying. No, this is what I've been saying
a lot, too. I don't think I buy it. All the characters, all the characters in this game or
in the revolution or whatever, if they're all playing it safe, like it's not going to progress.
It can't. It can't. It physically cannot progress if everyone is like playing it safe.
What? Sorry, I'm going to step on you there. My my big question is going to be before we
dive into like the opposite side of this. But like, if you had to pinpoint the biggest hero
you need to slay, you know, who is it for you in your life? You know, for me, it is myself.
It is that vision of myself that I constantly think about. But when I look in the mirror,
I don't see. And I think there's a really interesting and it's like, you know, like
the word I think I'm looking for, like titillating mystique in human psychology to like think about
this future that you really want, like, oh, like that's that's where I am. But then actually
destroying your preconceived notions and getting to the brass tacks of like, but am I really there?
Am I really that person? Because that person is not real. And so that's what I'm personally
working on is just actually taking a good, long look and being like. That is who I want to be,
but is that person even real? Is that person even realistic? And if, you know, either of those two
things are true, how do I actually get there? And part one of how do I actually get there is I need
to actually destroy this guy and get rid of these vices that I'm struggling with to actually move
myself to the next place. And, you know, part one for me has always just been discipline and waking
up early. And, you know, we talked about this on a couple of different things, but the most
important thing that I think I've done in my life in the last two years is start taking cold showers.
It's literally flipped everything in my world upside down. And it's probably the
most beneficial thing I've ever done. Yeah. To answer your question about like,
what's one thing that's like, you got to slay that guy to move forward. I think for me,
or doing the thing that's uncomfortable, it's like literally it's being on a podcast like this,
putting my face out there, getting into marketing. Like I would love nothing more than just to be a
private individual that just participates with the people in my life and has no public anything.
But you guys, we can, we can kill the snake. It's like, no, no, no. That guy has to die.
Like I got to put myself out there to kill the snake because otherwise, like, again,
what are we doing here? And for like, I would, I would so much love just to,
to be a private individual and just not participate and be like, cool.
Yeah, we're going to be good because Bitcoin is going to win. But yeah, I don't need to do
anything about it. And like, no, you, you do, you really do. And getting everybody on that page is
like, I'm getting myself on that page. It's like taking me years just like to do that. And it's
man, tough. Yeah. Yeah. For me, it's, it's honestly, I resonate with a lot of what you're
saying, JD. Um, I think I've been really focused on, I don't, this is where this question is taking
me. I've been really focused on just taking action, like action in the present, rather than
like thinking about action. Um, and that's just such a classic, like, I don't know, like life
coach YouTube video, like thing to say, but, but where I've been, and I guess and actually,
and not addicted to random action, like, for me, it's time.
Like, I think we have plenty of time. Like, I think we have plenty of time. There's so much
time. There's so like, if we're already, we are already infinite beings playing infinite games.
It's already it's already infinite beings, infinite games. And I don't
know, like, having 45 minutes of not stressed every morning, and not in like with my kids,
and not and don't envision in your head the like, wow, like playing on the floor with the
no, no, no, no, like literally just sitting, sitting in the chair, drinking coffee in the
same room as them, not not rushing out to do the thing, not rushing out to do the thing,
not letting your brain ruminate on the thing, just literally being like,
it is okay. And killing, like, and yeah, just killing that anxiety and killing that just
worry. Because it is okay, like it is okay. I love that. So much time.
I love and I'm sorry to know, I'm sorry, I need to stop saying I'm sorry.
But it's like, that's, that's the thing I just like, I say that a lot. That's something I got
from my parents. But I love everything you said right there, Brian. And that's actually
something I'm working on to have, like, when I'm with my kids constantly thinking about,
oh, I have to do these things. And stopping that thought, like literally slaying that thought
and being like, no. Is my work going to care if I were to get hit by a bus tomorrow? No,
I mean, sure, they're gonna be sad for five seconds, but they're gonna refill somebody
that seat and keep going. And so I'm, that's the first question I ask. I'm like, okay,
but are my kids gonna care? Yeah. Am I gonna be sad? You know, would I be sad even if I'd be dead?
Like, would I be sad that I didn't get this moment with my kid? Yeah. And so slaying that
thought of hurry, that's that thought of like, hustle and hurry are good. But in context,
it's completely important to understand putting them in their proper place. Like one should be
God, two should be your spouse, three should be your kids, and four should be work. And that's
very easy to do. Your God is work. And then you kind of talk to your God, but they're actually
number four. And then you have your kids and then you have your wife, like that prioritization
of life. If it's in the wrong balance, you're never going to succeed ever. And so you really
need to slay that Leviathan of work because the Leviathan of work is always the most pressing
because you need it for money. And so once the money changes and the denominator changes,
I actually think that balance of work is so much easier to get. Correct. No, absolutely. And that's
what I just know, dude. Why were our parents? Why were our parents tired and stressed out?
Because the money sucks. Why could the church not fix that for them? Because the church wasn't
talking about money. Amen. And that's, that's all of it. That's, that's all of it. And so if we
really if I really believe that, and but then doing a lot of the like, your nervous system,
yeah, just like actually getting into the science, like other nervous system and being like,
no, this is why you're feeling what you're feeling and why your brain is operating how
you are. And you actually can master that you actually can master that and change that.
And so it's like, yeah, all the people. All the people that talk about like, yeah, working out
and the cold showers and whatever the like rhythm is that each person has all that's right. Because
your brain, like your brain and your body is, is all like, that's how you interpret the reality.
Yep. So this, this kind of takes us, it was, I was at the playground with my kids this morning,
and I had this thought, like, what are we gonna talk about today on the pod? And it was like,
the first thing comes to mind is like, how does Bitcoin make the stories we tell our children
better? Right? And it goes directly to you guys's point here, which is, well, and I was thinking
about this earlier this week, too, because I and everyone's heard this thing. It's like,
you're always you're preaching to your children all the time, no matter what. Right? If you're
not home, that's a sermon to your child. If you're home, that's something you're if you're spending
time with your kid, that's a sermon to your kid, right? So like, how does Bitcoin tell better
stories for our kids? Well, immediately, bro, we can do like, the whole and I think this this video
was just on Twitter. And I saw right before this whole thing started, right before this pod started,
which is like the guys like, oh, yeah. When the money inflates, the first thing that happens
is that you can no longer afford a single income household. Oh, well, if both parents are then
working, well, what's the story you teach your kids? The story you teach your kids is work is
way more important than your family, like way more important, right? How does Bitcoin fix this?
How does Bitcoin make this better? It just rolls that back. Like, bro, it was such a mistake to
go down that road. That's not to say women shouldn't work or anything like that. It's just
to say, bro, it was a mistake to make work so much more important than the family.
Yeah. I just made a throw in just another fancy topic like the like AI. So a lot of people be like,
oh, AI, AI. Like, I had this thought earlier this week, where I just I let I let my four year old
like talk to chat GPT, like voice mode, just about Ninja Turtles about whatever. And like it would
and again, it just goes and goes and goes and goes. You know, like when you're talking with
your four year old, this isn't my idea. This is like a Reddit thing. And then I just tried it out.
You their brain, they never hit a wall, like the classic dad wall or the classic mom wall where
you hit a wall and you're just like, I actually don't know anything else about the Ninja Turtles.
I actually don't. We exhausted everything that I know about them. And so I don't know the backstory
of April and how they met that she met them. I don't I don't know. And but that the chat GPT knows
Maple on chat GPT knows and they talk and talk and talk about it over and over and over again.
And I was like, how how crazy is it that like the four year old is with AI now. Bitcoin does the
same thing on the financial side, like the story, the new story for the family is that they are
going to like potentially not hit a wall, but potentially hit the hit a wall of way later.
Like, why do we all we how do we go from infinite toddlers, infinite toddlers with
infinite imaginations into tired and stressed adults, because the world beats you down and
beats it all out of you. That's like the classic arc, right? But it's now like literally through
like imagination, they're not going to hit a wall there. And if the parents through having better
money are going to actually the actual physical reality that they live in is going to be better
and better and better. That's then team them up for like actual abundance, like actual abundance,
because then you pull all of that forward. And at the all the way end of this is when you get
into like Brian Johnson territory where he's like, we actually like you actually could expand human
life way farther than it is right now. When like, why do we make bad eating decisions? And why do
I make bad health decisions? Because your nervous system is jacked up from years and years and years
of being stressed out all the time. Absolutely. And so like, that's super optimistic, like,
that's super optimistic, just expanding, like, Bitcoin gets rid of the, like, all of our
productivity being siphoned off of us. Computers have the ability to push our minds farther than
they've been able to go. And then the new generation is like, they're experiencing that
reality from the beginning. I think on that same vein, Bitcoin is going to make religion,
the most important thing in a lot of people's lives. And that story you tell yourself about
anything long term is actually going to be the thing that you are the most concerned with.
Because at the end of the day, when it comes to a world where you're thinking about one,
two and three generations beyond you, your most important thing is not going to be how do I spend
my money as quickly as possible, it's losing value, your most important thing is going to be
how do I spend my time and effort, adding the most value for the most amount of people,
even if I never see the value I'm adding come to full fruition. Like, we're going to see
cathedrals again, we're going to see chastity be important again, we're going to see people
making better decisions in terms of who their mates and partners are. And that's actually really
exciting because right now we're in this culture that edifies, you know, having baby mamas,
it edifies not having relationships with your kids, it edifies me, me, me. And I will say,
you know, in a non-communist, socialistic way, but Bitcoin does really resurface this whole idea
of we, we, we, starting with the family, because the family unit will become the most important
thing again. And that in my mind is going to be a really cool thing for society because it's going
to be like, hey, I maybe want to live closer to my parents, I maybe want to live closer to,
you know, the people that I grew up with. Like, I think people are going to become more,
you know, tribal from a perspective of, you know, I'm from, you know, Chicago, or I'm from
Boston, or I'm from New York, or I'm from, you know, wherever it is, because at the end of the
day, that tribe is going to be building something. And it's like, okay, I'm going to go to that place
to build that thing that they're building, because you're going to be known like Detroit
for cockroach or whatever it is. Yeah. And I think that, oh, and I just had this thought this
morning, and it's, it's, it's crazy, but hear, hear me out. So right now, this is probably gonna
take way too long to explain. Sorry, everybody. So right now, the way that a lot of people
interact with the world is kind of like this, especially like in Christian circles, it's kind
of this, this, oh, I'm encountering somebody who's annoying me, like a co worker or whatever.
And they're, they're just like, literally great against my soul, like every time I have to deal
with them. The immediate response is, well, that's a you issue, you got to like, internalize,
just remember, God deals with you, right? So like, and you're probably so way more annoying to God
than etc. But he still loves you. So you internalize that, that pressure, right? And then,
you know, okay, cool, internalize God's love for me. And then I can be more loving to somebody
else. It's like, that's your your standard pattern. And it's not to say that's not biblical
by any stretch of magic. It's totally, it's totally good. But there's this really interesting
thing that happens when you have kids, which is, you're now responsible for that little adult
being so annoying, right? And you have to tell the kid, bro, you're being annoying, like,
we're gonna, and you have to shepherd and redirect and, you know, change the behavior of the child,
because you think it's annoying behavior, right? But that kind of is an unlock for,
or maybe it's not an unlock, but it feels like it's an unlock for dealing with the very annoying
co worker all of a sudden, right? So now you have like new tools. And like, just imagine everybody
who now has kids and deals with that. It's like, and everybody now has these new tools to be able
to deal with the annoying person. And it's just, you can just imagine like the bring it forward,
the imagine the the quality of human the quality of humanity, right? When everyone is like
shepherding and redirecting and pushing people towards better ends, just because it's like,
yeah, I have the tools because I have kids that I know how to do that. Right? It's just,
bro, we're gonna it's just rocket launch on humanity. It's gonna be awesome.
Yeah, no, when you're not stressed out all the time, it's way easier to have empathy.
Like when you're or when your options when you have more options, it's way easier to have empathy.
And I think and I also think that's why, dude, I, I, this is where I don't know if this is like
aggrandizing of millennials. But just I shouldn't identify with everything that's like, Oh, like the
reason why parenting is so hard is because you're reparenting yourself. Like I just all of that.
And again, I don't know if that I don't have every generation does like that. And it's just,
again, continuing that whole thing. But no, it definitely feels like that. And and and work,
work, modern modern work has its own version of that, where it's like, you like you feel anxious
because of entrenched habits of how companies operated for a long time. And you have to
retrain your brain in your like nervous system that it that it is okay. Like it is okay.
The money doesn't suck anymore. Like you've got this, like you're you're in your house right now.
You're you're in your house right now. It's okay. And you just have to tell yourself that. And so
what I love about that germ and that thought is the generational curse. I think a lot of people
a lot of people don't realize how real those are. And so as we continue to move down this,
you know, lower time preference funnel with Bitcoin and with, you know, just trying to build
things that actually like last longer than five minutes again, we're going to get to a place where
people can actually like take good hard looks backwards. Like look at your mom, look at your
dad, look at your grandparents, look at your great grandparents, whatever you have access to,
and try and gain an understanding of, okay, hang on, you know, I am just perpetuating these things
that, you know, my dad learned from his dad who learned from his dad who learned from his dad or
mom or whatever. I want it to stop for my kids. So I need to sacrifice and I need to do the work
to actually break that. And I think to your point about telling better stories,
Bondor, you're getting to a place where at the end of the day,
if you're not trying to make the future for yourself and your kids a better place,
you are going to be forgotten and you are going to be kind of left behind because people are not
going to want to associate with you. Like if you're just going to sit in your own squalor
and not actually change, I actually think there's going to be a pretty big purge of friend groups
and other things when people kind of look at a long-term time horizon, like, oh, this guy just
wants to go to Vegas and like gamble or do nothing. Like you're not really adding value to anything.
So like, what's the point? Yeah. You want to talk about slay your heroes. I mean,
you want to talk about slay your heroes in the context of generational curses, right? Like,
bro, that's the real slaying your heroes. That's facing the random behavior that you inherit from
your parents and slaying that behavior. And it's so like, man, that is the hardest hero to slay
because you're completely blind to it. That's normative, right? The way that you treat somebody
where everybody thinks that you're just a total asshole, but like, you just think that's normative.
It's like, man. No one congratulates for that. No one's going to congratulate for that
because you're just back to like baseline or like back to table stakes. That's why it hurts.
Yeah. I think that's actually a great point too, is one of the other heroes you need to slay is
actually your expectations of others. You need to remove all expectation from other people that you
have placed upon them, because the only expectations you can meet and or exceed are your
own. If you expect someone to give you a pat on the back, you are probably going to be disappointed.
If you expect someone to pick something up, you are probably going to be disappointed until you
learn otherwise. But that point of getting back to table stakes, like if you expect your spouse or
your kids or someone else to change something in your household, especially as the man,
you are probably going to be disappointed. The bigger disappointment actually to your family is
you. You as the head of the household are responsible for trying to create the change
that you want. I'm saying that to myself as much as I am to anybody else, because at the end of the
day, there's a reason men are historically at the front of households and at the top of these
food chains of biblical households, because at the end of the day, going back to the wolf analogy,
they are the sacrifice. You are leading at the front and from the back, if we're using that wolf
analogy. You need to slay your bad habits. Those are the things that should be at the front of the
pack with an understanding of the habits you're leading behind with, with your alpha. That is how
you create success for your family. You are leading from the back, but you are also putting
your own crap on the altar to be sacrificed so that everyone can benefit. As Bitcoin grows in
the culture and gives people time to be able to do this, as opposed to fiat, we're in like
generation five of fiat, eroding that. Generation after generation, my parents worked, their parents
worked, and valued work above the family, and then we're just going to be undoing that. Rolling back
each generation is going to be like, yo, my kids, I'm spending as much time as I can with my kids
as it is, but then my kids are going to learn that story, learn that behavior and be like,
oh yeah, that's normative. It's normative for me to spend that time with my kids, and their kids
will benefit from the added time that they spend with their parents. And then it just, it goes from
there, right? It's just, man. I just thought of something. I think that, all right, this is a very,
this is a very influx thought, but I've never been able to super identify with the like,
just, oh, like spending time with their kids is really important, or like family time is really
important. Like this whole thing of, and one in a while, I think I'm almost connecting this back,
like my dad worked, but my mom didn't work. And like, what did that actually functionally mean
for me? Like very, very personally, what did that actually mean? It meant that my family had less
income than other families. Like that's actually functionally what that meant. So it's no wonder
that as I'm an adult, when I hear that, I'm like, it's no, it's no wonder that I literally have an
eye roll of like, are you serious? Like, are you serious? Because I, because my, Sharon and I both
work now, and my kids' lives are like 100x, like infinite more, better than my four and two year
old life. And so, but again, maybe that's then like that, and this is funny about that. Maybe
that's my like, Bitcoin privilege coming through. I feel like, like, it's, and I haven't come full
circle to like, develop the empathy yet, because I'm just very like, dude, life is really good.
Life is really, really good. And like, I don't know. It's like, I want them to have both. Like,
I want them to understand. I, it's, I guess, I guess for growing up, it was always an either or
thing. Like, you either have time with your parents, or like, the family is whatever, or
your family has money. And maybe that was just the friends that I grew up with, or the town I was in,
or whatever. But dude, that's, that's totally fiat, right? Like, zero sum game, you can either
have income, or you can have time. It's totally zero sum, right? And Bitcoin is just wrecking
ball through all of that. You can have both. It's going to, yeah. No, absolutely. And that's,
and then so then your kids, so the story your kids get is that your family, your family brand,
your family money, and your family time is all literally like, compounding together to put a
dent in the world. Like, you are compounding together to put a dent in the world. That's
interesting. Like, that's extremely interesting and fun. I love that. That's so good.
One, one random thing on that is family brand. The Trump family, in my mind, is doing it correctly.
Because they have a thing that they've built that generationally, they're all working on.
They've built an empire, and they are building an empire. And I think that's one of the things
that unfortunately, the middle class doesn't really fully grasp and understand. It's like,
why when you go to Ireland, why when you go to the UK and all these other places,
you have family crests? Because you had something that the family was building, right? Something
that this unit was building. I think that's actually one of the worst cravesties of the
fiat world is we have this boomer generation and then their parents, and then like the silent
generation, all these people of old eras where they don't think in the collective of the family,
right? We have the family unit of husband, wife, kids. But it's like, in Asia, they do it right,
where they have multi-generational households, and they pool their money together. And so,
we live in the most prosperous country in the world, the United States. But the biggest
hamstringing we've done to ourselves culturally is bifurcate the multi-generational understanding
of family. Because I would bet most of our parents are like, mine aren't, but I would bet most of our
parents are millionaires. And most of their parents were millionaires by standards of,
if you take the actual amount of value that they had for spending power now,
if that had been accrued and put together, even just an account that was compounding at 10%,
most people would be able to retire. And actually, fiat would be a game that could actually be won,
right? You wouldn't need Bitcoin because people are able to have pensions that are self-funded
by their family. And so- It's the standard thing. We got one of the siblings is a doctor,
one of the siblings is a lawyer, one's an accountant, and between all of us, the family
is managed. But fiat just completely pulls the rug out. I think they had to constantly break
the compounding. At least in my family history, they constantly had to break the compounding and
move from state to state to state in chasing the opportunity that would help keep up with
the hamster wheel, right? And so your network, your physical network of opportunities breaks,
of the humans, your real estate compounding breaks because you're constantly resetting
the mortgage in a new town. And you're like, so each of that, every single time that breaks,
the compounding stops. And you're right. Trump families, like the Trump family,
um, are like, I and I think, um, yeah, just are really interesting example of that. And a funny
thing to think about that on that is that, but Elon doesn't have that, like, he doesn't have that,
um, that's not a part of his thing, which does put him at a disadvantage in the like,
kind of game that is out there, because the Trump family has lots of deputies and lots of
angles of lots of different people. Yeah, that's interesting.
So how, like, how do you build this family brand as a Bitcoin? I mean, we, maybe it's something
like, maybe it's something that our generation will never be able to grasp, right? Because we're
just, we're literally just trying to process this. And as Bitcoin goes forward, our kids will have
just that little bit more opportunity to be able to grasp this, and their kids will have,
you know, just a little bit more and it, it compounds and eventually goes to that end.
What do we do today, towards that end, right? Like, we're, we're just, we're just like literally
ruminating on it right now. Like, what could we possibly even do? But I love that vision. It's
such a good vision. I think it's also goes a little bit into JD's point about the cities
themselves having a revival of like, what they are, or whatever, or being from their matters,
I think goes a little bit into it. So I think it's, I think it's just a thing that will,
like, continue to develop, I will say, I don't, I don't think it's purely from stacking up a bunch
of Bitcoin and handing it to your kids. I think that can be part of it. I think that can be part
of it, that we're the, we're the generation that's coming of adults, or young adults,
middle aged adults, during the time of Bitcoin's monetization. That'll obviously be a part of the
whole story. But I do think we're still on this like middle, where I do think owning businesses,
owning homes, owning, like, I do think local city councils, like centers of influence, churches,
it's like, centers of influence of towns. I don't, that game, I don't see like changing,
necessarily, like that game of having a brand or being known for something or your name ID,
like simply your name ID, people knowing your name, like increases your opportunity set.
Yeah. That was a fantastic, I mean, that's post brand too, right? Like, once your,
once your name is known, well, man, associate your name with a particular neighborhood. Oh,
yeah, you got to, oh, you want to do that? Yeah, you got to talk to, you got to talk to Bondor,
because that's, yeah, that's the guy who knows this neighborhood, like,
and that's your thing about California. Right? Absolutely. That's where, which is why,
so which is why I don't really believe in the whole like geographic arbitrage within the United
States thing. Like, look, the, no, the United States as a brand, as a locale has a certain,
like esteem to it. That is a thing we could talk about what's fluctuated and going up and whatever,
like, but that is a thing. And then every state has its own like esteem and also, and so if you're
not happy with your current locale, that's fine. But you should think seriously about the one you
pick then. Because you want that compounding. And I think this is where some Bitcoiners,
yeah, they believe that Bitcoin compounding is the only thing. So like, oh, all everything else
is a shit coin, right? Like that everything is a shit coin thing. Like, oh, picking what town you
live in is a shit coin, you can just be a digital nomad. I'm gonna say the other side of that. Like,
I'm gonna say the other side of that. But I think I actually believe that compounding multiple things
with Bitcoin is like, a hugely like beneficial thing. And so yeah, for me, like, and like part
of why I get along with you guys so well, it's like, no waking up in California every day.
Like, it hits me. Like, I honestly talk about Slayer Heroes. I think I used to I've, as I've
just like, identify as like being from California and like that, that honestly, almost like pumps me
up on some days even more than like being a Bitcoiner. Whereas like back in the day, I think
I would have only just been like Bitcoin, Bitcoin, Bitcoin, Bitcoin. But now I'm very like, no, I'm
like extremely proud to like, live where I am and be just a person where I am. And I want to pass
that along. Like to my kids. Yeah, people do not talk about the cost. Like you have exit voice
loyalty. And everyone's like, just hard slamming on exit, right? Yeah, don't be loyal to these
people. Don't bother changing them. Literally just exit and people that there's no conversation
about the cost of exit. And the cost of exit is this compounding. There's this super old quote
somewhere, you'd have to look it up. But it's the idea of like, long steadfastness in the same
direction. Apply that to a locality, long steadfastness. Like, oh, California is super
broken. Like nobody's gonna argue that. But like, the person who sits down and is like,
long steadfastness in the same direction of fixing California, bro, they're gonna have so much
honor attributed to them decades later. It's like, man. And you have to be okay sitting in the
uncomfortableness, like sitting in the end, you have to be okay, being misunderstood. And that's
been a big one for me of like, wanting, wanting the pat on the back in the moment, or even wanting
in the external acknowledgement is like one thing also, but even the like, I've gone up and down on
liking the phrase about low time preference stuff. Because I think sometimes when you talk about low
time preference, it can come across as very like, um, apathetic, and like not urgent. But in terms
of being able to like, let something slow burn resolve itself, rather than like rushing to solve
it has been a big thing for me in lots of areas of my life of like, not like, it's okay, like allow
yourself to be misunderstood, allow yourself to not feel the urgency to solve something immediately.
And yeah, that's how I because I think sometimes it's like people are, you rush to change your
locale to get it's a classic thing of like, are you running from something or running towards
something? Because you're running from something, you're gonna hit something else in the new place
also. And, and again, you're just breaking your compounding. Yeah. And you're proving to yourself
that when you hit that thing, you pivot and move sideways.
Jamie, were you caught a little bit of that? Sorry to handle something really quick. But the
yeah, just it just goes back to the
as we continue to evolve as a species. And if Mars actually happens, let's take that as an
example. If we go to Mars, there will be people who never want to go to Earth.
They just won't. It's like this is home. And the compounding value of those people on Mars is
is actually going to be, they're way more valuable on Mars, because they will understand
the needs of that society. They'll understand, oh, I don't open the Hab because everybody will die,
or whatever it is, right? There's just intrinsic value that they can add with a shorthand that
they don't need to speak about that they're going to think about that somebody new is not going to
think about. And so I think that's actually one of the things, you know, travel is great. Like
I've been to, you know, over 50 countries, right? Been to a lot of places, but I still think the
United States is the best country in the world, in my opinion. And I bet you somebody from Brazil
is going to say the exact opposite. Because again, I have an understanding and a belief of the
potential of this place, because I see it in the same way that I don't understand and see that same
potential in somewhere else. And so what's exciting for me, as I continue to slay these
idols and these heroes of, you know, Vandalust or whatever, and it's like, cool, I'm gonna go
travel. That's like, well, why? To what end? It's like, oh, okay. So what I'm traveling for is to
learn and to gather information. But ultimately, it's like, do I need to go touch every piece of
plain, you know, dirt on the world? No, not really. I did at one point in time,
and I really wanted to, but what I'm realizing now is I'd much rather just, you know,
grow the garden that I have here with my kids. I think the idea here that's the most
fascinating is there's two pieces. God tells Joshua before he goes into the promised land
that I will give you every place you set your foot. And that, to me, is one of the
most important things to understand as a Christian, as I guess there's, you know,
the Jews at the time, like, as a religious person who believes in God, as a Christian for me,
because that has a lot wrapped into it. I will give you, God will give you every place I've
promised you that you set your foot. That means you need to go do the work and put your foot there.
One. But then two, you need to understand what you're doing and where you're going,
because if you put your foot somewhere, like you're putting your foot in your mouth,
I'm going to give you the consequences of that too, right? It's not just all the pleasantries,
it's also the bad things. And so I think people need to be a little more calculated,
as you were saying, Brian, about why they're making decisions to, you know, be where they
are, what's your restriction, because if you're in Silicon Valley, you're going to bump into a
lot more people who know how to do tech stuff. And if you're in LA, you're going to bump into a
lot more people who know how to tell stories. And if you're in Chicago, you're going to bump
into a lot, and like, da, da, da, da, forever. But I think the most important thing for anybody
watching is the Chinese proverb of, the most valuable time to plant an oak tree was 20 years
ago. The second most valuable time is now. And so it's like, get to work.
Fun fact, that's not a Chinese proverb. It's just-
It is now.
Yeah, it's totally misattributed. And I don't think anyone knows exactly where it is,
but like, look it up. It's like, it's kind of funny. It's like, not a thing.
I would say it's Abraham Lincoln. It was definitely an Abraham Lincoln quote.
Yeah, Abraham Lincoln, for sure, Abraham Lincoln. I just want to say one more thing before we
probably have to shut this down, but Brian, I loved your running towards versus running away
mentality. And like, when you're running away from something, yeah,
you're going to hit something else, right? But if you're running towards something,
you're looking where you're going. You're able to navigate, right? You're running towards,
you have a goal that you're going towards. And to connect it with what you're saying, Katie,
bro, how did America get here? It's like, people were running towards the new world. I mean,
they're running away from the old world, but they're running towards the new world because
they saw opportunity. They saw, hey, this is a place where I can set myself up correctly.
Now, do we have Mars yet? No, not yet. We really just have a broken old world. There's no other
land that can be settled, right? It's just fiat everywhere. There is no other place that's
Bitcoin denominated or different. It's just fiat everywhere. No matter where you run on earth,
you will encounter fiat and the incentives of fiat and everything else. So plant your flag,
like run toward a future where fiat is dead.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We have the ability to create that reality where you are. What Joshua makes
me think, guys, you can work on anything. You're going to kill, you will be successful.
You will be successful in whatever you do. So choose where you're going to do it and let the
compounding start. And then follow through, like do it long steadfastness in the same direction,
because bro, don't break the compounding. Like if you're going to exit, like exit one time
and like play that card very strategically. Otherwise, man, compound, compound, compound,
compound, compound, right? Fix the system, fight, put a flag, defend your territory,
the whole thing, right? You gave me a thought for the first time I ever had about the Tower of
Babel. For those of you who don't know, the Tower of Babel was essentially the people,
all of the people of the world were speaking the same language. They were kind of unified, right?
And God saw that they were starting to build this giant tower called the Tower of Babel.
And it was going to be this giant like Mecca, essentially, where everybody in the world would
be able to see this like fantastic tower. And in the creation of it, God, it said,
confused their language to where they couldn't communicate with one another.
So it's like, you know, imagine you're building something with a dude and you're laying bricks,
and then you ask him to hand you another brick and he can't understand what the hell you just said.
Like, that's kind of the way it's described as it happened in the Bible. And correct me if I'm
wrong on that, guys. But the thought that I'd never had before is what I was like, why did
this happen? Like, you know, I was always under the impression that God made that happen because
he was nervous that humanity was going to evolve to love itself. But the thought that I just had,
based on this conversation that we have today, is God knew that we needed tribes to focus
ourselves in on planting our flag to be able to conquer and commandeer the entire world.
Because if we did not have the commission to go out and to populate every land,
we probably would have just stayed in one place and built what we thought was a utopia.
But at the end of the day, you know, what we know from physics, the star, you know,
the sun is going to explode and can turn into a black hole at one point in time. And so God knew
that in order to fulfill the purposes of expansion and not just taking over the world,
but taking over the galaxy, he kind of had to focus us by dividing us in a way. And that's
the first time I've ever had that thought. Just thought it was really interesting.
Yeah, that's interesting. All right, guys. Brian, it's been a pleasure.
JD. Brian, you got any last thoughts? Any shout outs? You got a, you got a, I mean,
yeah, I mean, just if you're here on YouTube, like hit subscribe, hit the thumbs up button.
It genuinely helps search Brian Harrington on YouTube. And I'll see you.
All right, guys. Till next time. Cool. Peace.
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