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Podcast by a Panhandle Surf Angler for all anglers of any level. We will talk weekly to guests that are anglers and also industry professionals. I want you to walk away from this podcast with some knowledge either refreshed or new for you to become a better angler. Though it will start in the Panhandle of Florida, it will be around the entire United States so we can all learn something about fishing in different regions.
Speaker 1 (00:00:01):
This episode of Finding Demo Surf Fishing is being brought to you by the Kids Can Fish Foundation. That's right. They're still here and they're rocking it. They're doing great things with their camps and just keep on delivering so many great things for these kids. Every dollar that they get goes back into the foundation to help these kids get out with a fishing rod in their hand or a ca net. Uh, they learn it, they live it. It's all good. I mean, there's so many great things. So you can take a look at through the website, what they do, why they do it, how they do it, how they got started, or you can go back into the podcast and you can actually see the episodes. Tom explains the whole thing. You're listening to Finding Demo Spearfishing. Welcome back. It's 2026. It's gonna be a good year. Here we go.
Speaker 1 (00:01:13):
Hello. Hello. Hello. How are you? I hope you're doing great. Wherever you are. Fishing has been phenomenal since the last time we talked, and the last time I dropped an episode, uh, we talked about some fun stuff with finances and taxes and all sorts of great things. And, uh, people were like, whoa. He came back. I came back for one, but I'm back now. And, uh, you're gonna get 'em back in the ear all, all the time. Yep. We're back on schedule. So this week we are traveling. Oh, in case you didn't know. I guess I should back up a little further. I am now in Virginia. I am no longer in Florida. Yeah, I am now in the Chesapeake Bay. I'm in Chesapeake. How funny. Uh, fishing here. I've been out a couple times. It's not bad. Different game, but we're taking the digital bus like we always do on this show, and we're running down to Georgia this week. We're talking with Gold River Fishing. We're talking to Mr. Tyler, and we got a lot of fun stuff to talk about. We're gonna talk. Oh man. Salt fresh, uh, some great organizations skills. We got it all, man. It's all coming back. So without further ado, welcome to the show,
Speaker 2 (00:02:18):
. Hey, how's it going, Mr. Demo?
Speaker 1 (00:02:21):
It is good, man. It is good. So we met at the Kids Can Fish Running of the Bulls. Uh, you were out there meeting people, shaking hands, kissing babies, and I was listening to you talking and I was like, wait, you're part of an organization? Well, I'm a YouTuber. I'm like, okay, let's start there. And then it just continued. I was like, okay, cool. I look forward to it. And then I, I somehow convinced you to come on my show. .
Speaker 2 (00:02:45):
That's great to be here, Mr. Demo. It's, it's really, this will be my very first podcast ever. So I'm actually looking forward to it. And I'm, I'm just here to have a great time, relax and share some fishing stories.
Speaker 1 (00:02:57):
Well, that is good because that is what this whole thing is, man. It's just two dudes talking about some fishing and enjoying it and, uh, yeah, spreading the knowledge and making things better for people. That's, that's the key. So let's start it off at the beginning, like I do with every episode here. Tell us your story and what got you into fishing.
Speaker 2 (00:03:15):
Oh, gosh. So my family, I was originally from Pennsylvania. I grew up in Allegheny, Westmoreland County in Pennsylvania. And the day that I was born, my pap not even , not even 10 minutes of me being born, he walked into that room and he said, here's this first fishing rod. And from that moment on, like, I, obviously I didn't get to use it until I was like, you know, able to walk. But my first time fishing ever was, I was at Indian Lake. It was me, it was my mom, my uncle, my pap. And I don't know, like, I don't know if everyone's first fish is a bluegill or sunfish, but that's like how it happens. That's how you get started and now you're in a financial burden with fishing equipment, . But, um, that's, that's kind of how it, it grew up to what it is now of, um, how I engage with like, okay, I'm gonna go do fresh water today, and then maybe two days from now, hey, I'm gonna go do salt water.
Speaker 2 (00:04:21):
And then just being able to have that variety is wonderful. Um, I kind of took a liking to salt water fishing. I think I was 15. Um, we went to Ocean City, New Jersey. It was first time ever being to the beach. Um, I went to Ocean City, New Jersey. And the first fish that I caught, I think was a, no, that was my last year of going there. It was a stingray. Um, I caught my very first stingray. I'm like, whoa, this is so cool. Like, I wonder what other cool, like salt water, fish are there. And then I, from there, no pun intended, I got hooked into salt water. Um, and from there it was just one of those, like, I have, I have to have more of it, you know, there's, it's so peaceful, but at the same time, anything could happen. You don't know what's in the water.
Speaker 2 (00:05:12):
One day you could be like, oh, I'm gonna go ahead and just catch me with like a trout. And then the very next day you have an eight foot lemon shark on the end of your line. And it's just a wonderful experience. You don't know what's gonna happen, how it's gonna happen, where it's gonna happen, who you're gonna share those memories with. Uh, which is really key for me. 'cause doing this repetitively, um, and enjoying myself and then taking other people with me. Um, and then seeing their reaction. Like I get in the water with that, like, yeah, . So I think that's how it kind of started. And then I'm looking to grow from there and just make more memories.
Speaker 1 (00:05:50):
Dude, you just nailed like all the questions in one shot there. Shouldn't, shouldn't have sent you the pregame . No, dude, that's great. Yeah, I mean the, the tug is the drug man. I mean, it, it everything's so many great things about fishing. Um, well since you crushed the other one there, what's a bucket list fish catch for you? And we were talking pre-show and uh, I'm excited to hear the story here.
Speaker 2 (00:06:11):
Okay, so I was, I got stationed at Fort Stewart. Uh, it was 2018. I don't, I think it was, uh, spawning season for large mouth. It happened at DAM 36. It was right behind Second Brigade where one of the buildings where I was staying at. And I think it was like a four day weekend. And I'm like, you know what, I'm gonna just go hit the pond. It's right behind where I'm staying, you know, I'm not thinking much of it, you know. Um, and I was fishing there for a little bit. I was catching some catfish. I think I was with, uh, who was I with? I, it was, I know I was fishing with somebody, I can't remember his name off the top of my head at least, but I noticed that there was a vehicle off in the, off in the distance. Like there's a little slot where mps usually like to sit that catch people speeding, but it wasn't an MP car.
Speaker 2 (00:07:01):
So I'm like, ah, maybe he's just looking for directions. I then hook into this fish. Turns out it was game warden and he turned on his lights and hauled right over to me. I'm like, oh, you know that, you know, that's fine. I know I'm good with everything. I have my ice sportsman license. I have my Georgia State id and I have my Georgia fishing license. I know I'm set, I know I'm good. I have nothing to worry about. As soon as that, I was thinking that it breached and it was my double digit large mouth bass. And I went, huh, . And she is currently on my wall. Let me, let me go ahead and pull her off real quick.
Speaker 1 (00:07:39):
Oh boy. Uh, this is, this is where things get dangerous right here.
Speaker 2 (00:07:43):
And here she is.
Speaker 1 (00:07:45):
That is not a small fish.
Speaker 2 (00:07:47):
No. So this is the large mouth bass that I pulled out of that pond. And , when my sergeant, when he went to do a room inspection, he went to open up my freezer and he went, Tyler, what is that? I said, oh, that's just, that's my fish. I'm getting taxidermy. He's like, why, why is it in the commissary? You know, like, you can't do that. I said, don't worry, I'm getting taxidermied. I said, if you wanna look at it, go ahead and flip up the, the wet towel that I covered it with to try and preserve it so I can get it over to the taxidermist. And he unraveled it. He went, where in the world did you catch this? I said, literally right behind . I was saying like, guys would get bass boats, they would do all this type of stuff. And then lo and behold, you catch your double digit bass right where, right where you sleep. And that's the story on my bucket list fish. I've always wanted to catch a double digit large mouth. And it just kind of happened that day.
Speaker 1 (00:08:53):
It is, it's the funny thing about fishing, isn't it?
Speaker 2 (00:08:56):
Oh yeah. It's, um, ah,
Speaker 1 (00:08:59):
It's flash bang again. I
Speaker 2 (00:09:00):
Got flash bang. It's cool. . Oh my redness.
Speaker 1 (00:09:05):
Uh, that's the fun thing about fishing. I mean that, and I've, gosh, you can go out and say you're going after certain things. And I love that about salt water. You know, you can say you're going out for Pompano and next thing you know you're pulling in a frigging coia. Oh yeah. Where that come from? That
Speaker 2 (00:09:19):
Actually, that is a bucket list fish that I wanna catch salt water wise, that in mahi, I wanna catch mahi. They have such beautiful, vibrant colors. And it's just one of those fish where it's like, is unique. Like each, uh, mahi is unique on its own. There's like, it's not gonna be like, uh, let's say catfish for example. Catfish, they all kind of look the same. Sometimes they'll have like some scarring and whatnot. But the coloration from mahi mahi can vary between fish to fish. Like, you'll get one that's like a bright, vibrant green, or you'll get one that's blue, you'll get one that's almost all yellow. It's like you don't know which one you're gonna get. And it's like so cool on how, um, how they can just, like, I, I'm like speechless on just the, the coloration of them is like, someone just took neon. Like do you know the little chemicals in the glow stick? It's like someone just threw green, yellow, blue all over the fish. And that's what it looks like.
Speaker 1 (00:10:25):
It sounds about right Actually it does. I like that. Oh, okay. And some mahi and those, you got some places to go. All right. So the, let, let's talk about travel then. 'cause you're talking about going to get that. Well, where would be a dream place for you to go fish?
Speaker 2 (00:10:38):
Um, I'd say The Bahamas. The Bahamas I heard is really, really good for, uh, tropical fish, especially Mahi. Um, I heard there was some really big tarping down there. Um, I'm not sure about Kobe. I know Kobe is in the area, but I think like the two main fish, uh, I think mangrove, snappers down there.
Speaker 1 (00:11:01):
Did you just need to go to Florida? I just need to go to . I mean, I just
Speaker 2 (00:11:04):
Need to finish Florida more.
Speaker 1 (00:11:06):
I was like, uh, Pensacola. Navar Destin. Yeah. That would cover you 30 a Miami. Um, yeah, you, you're gonna be covered. You go to Florida, you can get all those. So that's, that's, well, it's
Speaker 2 (00:11:19):
A good thing Florida's right down the road. Like, I take a, a couple days go down to Florida Fish wherever. Um, I think one, one of the trips I went down to Florida was, uh, I went fishing for Bull Shark and that was fun. I went to Sebastian Inlet. That was fun. Um, yeah, learning how, excuse me, learning how to, um, kind of gauge Florida. 'cause Florida's kind of weird, if that makes sense with fishing wise, like here in Georgia it could rain, it could storm and do whatever, and it, the, the bike would just stop. You go down to Florida and it would rain and next thing you know, you're catching buckets of fish and, and you're like, what is happening? It's a complete 180 from Georgia. And it's right, literally right up the road.
Speaker 1 (00:12:13):
I mean, yeah, you, you can start playing the science game on that. And I mean, but the day after it rains, don't, uh, it sucks 'cause the salinity goes and you get a whole bunch of runoff and Yeah, the, the, the game gets really interesting. I've had some pretty good conversations about that, but right on that front. Mm, fish go nuts on the front, on the front end of a tail, end of a front. They love it. That pressure just gets 'em fired up. But thinking about, it's making me happy. Alright, let's transition into some, let's, let's transition to the knowledge piece here. So when you're gonna go out and, uh, again, bring us all the way through it here, you know, you're gonna go out and it's like you said, you're a mixed fisher. You do fresh, you do salt, you do all of it there. Um, so let's keep it, uh, let, let's play a little bit into the salt game a little bit more. Uh, how do you plan your fishing trip though?
Speaker 2 (00:13:02):
So how I plan my fishing trip is I kind of go by, um, I kind of play it off of what the fronts are doing and what the stages of the moon are. So I've noticed that especially like freshwater, right? The moon is definitely a big thing. And it's kind of the same way with saltwater as well, but with the, the temperature. Um, and like, say of like a front, for example, when a front moves in and, um, you have 98% full moon, a hundred percent full moon, and then you have a 98% full moon, I've noticed that your bites increase a lot more for both fresh and salt water, uh, during full moons. Um, and especially if for all my night fishermen, when you throw top water, for example, at nighttime, you're throwing top water, you're getting a lot more action. Um, and then it's also just at, I don't know what the moon does, it just triggers a feeding frenzy regardless. I don't know, uh, the science behind it, but I've tried it multiple times. I've had some buddies try it and they're all saying the same thing. Hey, the fish blow up faster and more aggressive during full moons than anything.
Speaker 1 (00:14:24):
Wow. See, and I normally hate full moon fishing, um, truly because I've had a bad luck with it. But with what you're saying, it makes kind of sense, especially with top water. That's an interesting point. 'cause you know, you got that nighttime look and they're gonna see it moving and they're gonna hear it. They're gonna feel, it gives 'em something to target. I like it. Mm-hmm . What, uh, what's, so what are you targeting when you're kind of fishing that style?
Speaker 2 (00:14:45):
Um, so when I'm targeting, are we, are we talking about salt or are we talking about fresh? 'cause I gimme
Speaker 1 (00:14:50):
Both. Let, let's gimme both.
Speaker 2 (00:14:52):
Um, so say I'm going after a predatory fish, not so much like a scavenger, like a catfish, for example. Um, I'll use cane pick roll, for example. Uh, cane pick roll. I'll usually use something flashy. Um, something that has bright, vibrant colors. Something that that triggers their predatory instinct. So when I'm working the water, I'm working my bait. Either I'm doing, um, finesse fishing, or I'm just doing straight retrieves, or I'm doing, um, what I like to call commotion fishing. Anything that makes noise on top of the water. Anything that vibrates, anything that shakes. Um, I typically like to throw, um, bladed jigs. I like to throw. Um, what are they called? They're not spooks. What are they called? What are they called? What, oh boy. Um, buzz baits. I like to throw a buzz bait to anything that make noise to trigger predatory fish.
Speaker 2 (00:15:53):
I like to use that. Um, but I also go based off of what the water clarity is. So if it's clear water, I'm gonna use more natural colors. I'm gonna use my browns. I'm gonna use my blacks. I'm gonna use my whites. Anything of a natural color, I'm gonna throw in, uh, clear water. Now I'll say if it's a stained tea, stained water, you have the option to throw a variety of both. I could throw bright, vibrant colors like neon greens, yellows, oranges, or I can go ahead and I could switch up and I could throw natural colors. And then say if I'm in dirty water, um, I'm gonna be throwing most of the time bright, vibrant colors. Um, let's say wacky worms. For example, if I'm fishing muddy water, I'm gonna throw on a hot pink, wacky worm. I'm gonna work the, the bottom with that. Or anything that's very, very shiny, I'm gonna throw in, uh, dirty water.
Speaker 1 (00:16:46):
That makes sense. Yeah, it definitely does. With the color. All right.
Speaker 2 (00:16:51):
For salt water with, for fishing off of the, the beach, I typically like to find where the waves are crashing. Know where the sand bars are at. Look for pockets of bait fish that, that keep getting, uh, caught up in kind of like, not like rip currents, but they kind of get pulled to one side and you'll see predatory fish sit in those pockets and they'll ambush. So that's what I'm looking for. When I'm doing salt water fishing, I'm looking for breaks in the wave 'cause I'm gonna fish behind it. Um, and then I'm also paying attention to the sandbars. Uh, all of those kind of play into a factor. I typically like to fish. Um, where the waves will start to formulate before they break. That's where I want to throw. Um, either I'm fishing with Pompano rakes, I'm used to drop shots. Um, now if I'm shark fishing, none of that's gonna matter 'cause I'm going way out.
Speaker 1 (00:17:44):
Yeah, you are . That's just, that's just, it looks good. That that seems about right.
Speaker 2 (00:17:52):
But during the redfish tournament, a lot of people were trying to get out far. A lot of people were trying to throw it shallow where the brakes and the waves were. But just that, that one, that tournament was just not friendly to anybody. All the conditions were not, were not favorable. 'cause there was one guy who was throwing a 12 ounce Sputnik weight and it was getting washed up on the beach. We couldn't stick anything. It was bad.
Speaker 1 (00:18:17):
Where were you?
Speaker 2 (00:18:19):
We were at St. Simon's Island. I was over at seventh Street and the guy next to me, he said, look, I can't get anything to stick. I'm gonna up my weight. I said, cool. I'm gonna bring out my spider weights. If you know what a spider weight is, it, it kind of fans out more so it'll dig into the sand. I couldn't get my eight ounce spider weights to hold. That's how bad it was.
Speaker 1 (00:18:41):
I'm shocked. 'cause I was on the other side of you. So I was, I was on the other island and I was in the channel. Mm-hmm. I was, I was going hard for that. And my, I was holding with sixes.
Speaker 2 (00:18:54):
Gosh, St. Simon's was not a fun time that
Speaker 1 (00:18:57):
Day. Were you getting caught ingra? Was it grass that was getting you We were getting
Speaker 2 (00:19:00):
Caught in grass in the current at the same time.
Speaker 1 (00:19:04):
Yeah. Yeah. You got doubled. I remember hearing about the grass situation and that Yeah. The grass was a grass at June. Grass was, was rude. That shut me down for Sunday. That was for sure. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:19:15):
It was bad. It was, it was to the point where, um, we had, I was almost max drag on a Iowa bg 8,000. And the amount of grass that I had on there was probably the weight of a small child. And it was just pulling it. And there's nothing I can do. Really? Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:19:37):
June grass, June grass. Like that is, it's the enemy of all surf fishermen. I hate to say it like that, but that was the first year that outta all the years I fished. That's the first year I dealt with June grass. Yeah. Which was a surprise. 'cause I, when I reeled in, I was like, why is there June grass? We're not supposed to have June grass this time of year. No one should have June grass right now. And, but, uh, that being said, I've been in, in touch with a lot of friends. Obviously I stayed in touch with everybody in Florida. Mm-hmm. They have June grass up until a couple weeks ago, which is not common. Not at all. So this year, uh, I think the June grass up and down was, uh, it was the enemy for everything. But on the same note, as much as I like to complain about it, it also indicates a very healthy fishery for next year with food laying down and nutrient, you know, revitalizing, I guess is a good word, redoing itself of that. So, um, but yeah, that was a, that was a beating man. It that
Speaker 2 (00:20:35):
Was not fun.
Speaker 1 (00:20:36):
That, that, that hurt the feelings. Um, but hey, we're gonna pause real quick because it's been 20 minutes and That's right. Folks, you know what 20 minutes means? It means you need to check your bait because what are you doing? You can't just let it soak. You're not, you're not out there catching sharks. They're the only ones that get the soaky bait. Check your bait.
Speaker 1 (00:20:59):
Oh man. It's fun, Tyler. You just get to sit there and stare. I forgot to tell you. Yeah, by the way, you just get to sit there and stare at me as I say . Oh, good times. All right. This paycheck's being brought to you by Ninja tackle, ninja tackle va.com. Great website. Matt lives right up the street from me now, thank God. And you get those nice ninja daggers. Love mine. You got all the sizes all the way from seven all the way up to over 13 footers, the newest one. And it is wonderful. And I mean, wonderful. That Rod is phenomenal. Matt did a great job with it. And if you're into, hun, oh, I can't say a certain word 'cause apparently it gets filtered, but if you're into accessories of the variety they has, he's got optics and a whole bunch of other really great things.
Speaker 1 (00:21:41):
Lots of good stuff on the Ninja Tle side. So go take a look that ninja tackle va.com. Get your order in. Always good stuff, man. Always good stuff. Yeah. You laugh . Yeah, yeah, yeah. The ai, as much as I love ai, AI's a little too smart sometimes. It gets you all. So we talked about a lot on that one. We nailed into the spots. Um, we actually talked about casting and setting into that one, so you really nailed into that with the rigs and the gear real done there. Um, but, and we talked a little bit about bait. Now, when you were talking earlier about set rig fishing at, well, let's, what I call it Pompano rigs. Rocking it out there with a sink or letting it sit. Um, what kind of bait do you use per species? Are you a All right, I'm a match the hatch kind of guy. Are you all right? I'm a I'm a chunk at this. What do you like to use and why?
Speaker 2 (00:22:35):
So typically I like to use shrimp. Uh, shrimp is always a really good, uh, good go-to. Um, but I don't, I'm, I'm kind of weird with how I bait my shrimp. I don't keep the shell on it. I like to expose the meat. Um, so that way, um, it, the meat's kind of soft. There's no way that I can get all snagged up in my hook. I just peel it. So where it's just nothing but the actual shrimp meat itself with no, uh, exoskeleton or whatever you want to call them, uh, whatever it is. So I'm not a scientist, I swear, . Um, but typically I like to do that. And I like to pair it with, uh, a fish bite. Um, I'll do like maybe a, a little sliver of clam. Um, I might do like a little sliver of crab. I kind of like to give it two different scents. Um, and I just get picked up by Kingfish, also known as Whiting. Um, love Whiting. Whiting is,
Speaker 1 (00:23:35):
It's an underrated fish. It's so good.
Speaker 2 (00:23:38):
Believe it or not. Uh, Whiting, in my opinion, is one of the better baits to use here in Georgia. But dependent upon the size, I'll take it home and I'll eat it. Um,
Speaker 1 (00:23:52):
I have a hard, I have a hard time with that one because they're so good. . They really are.
Speaker 2 (00:23:58):
They, they are really good. Um, I will say fish and grits. Um, whiting is the way to go for fish and grits. Um, and then obviously there's your Pompano Pompano, I, I just like to use just a, just a tiny bit of shrimp, not like a whole shrimp. I'll use like a tiny bit. And then I'll throw on one of those flotation beads with, uh, fish bite. And then that would be my Pompano rig. I would throw maybe a two ounce Sputnik weight on there. It'll dig into the sand. It holds perfect. That's, that's like what you need for Pompano in, in my opinion. Um, if you're throwing it, if you're throwing a four ounce Sputnik fishing for Pompano, it's either really rough right now or it's really rough right now. Um, I like to use just two ounces max for it. And it seems to work all the time.
Speaker 1 (00:24:54):
I, I would love to know what it's like to fish when it's need. You can use a two ouncer. That, that, that would be so nice that, that would be nice. Um,
Speaker 2 (00:25:02):
What, what was it? It was, um, Sebastian, Sebastian Inlet. Not at the actual mouth of the inlet where it feeds out into the main ocean. Uh, there's a bend that goes left. I threw on, uh, four ounce pyramid weight and it was standing still.
Speaker 1 (00:25:18):
Yeah. Yeah. You, you get some good days. All, all depends on that coefficient and that current man that can, that can really throw there. So, alright. I like what you did there with the, with the setup. All right, cool. I like that. Uh, very easy to follow and very easy to use. Um, so let's talk gear. What, what essential gear and tactical or tactical thinking about Matt's tactical fishing, uh, tactical fishing. Oh man, we're gonna make a new sport. Uh, what are the essential gear and tactical needed for successful fishing trip? And how can anglers choose the right equipment for their needs?
Speaker 2 (00:25:54):
Um, so let's start off with freshwater. So freshwater, you, you really don't need a whole lot. It's fairly simple to start off with. You can go buy like a little zip code 33. Um, you could buy one of those loose speed sticks for like 25, 35 bucks just to get you out the door, get you started into this. Soon to be very unhealthy obsession with fishing. Just don't mind all the equipment . Um, but for freshwater fishing, it's really simple. Um, your three, your three most common fish that you could target is best Catfish and Bluegill, also known as brim shell, cracker, sunfish. Um, those are like your three main, like fresh water fish where everybody starts off at. Um, you can throw, let's say blue gill, um, bobber, bobber stopper, little egg weight or a little split shot and a size six, maybe size eight J hook and some worms.
Speaker 2 (00:27:02):
And throw it out there and let it sit. Super simple, really easy to get into, really cost effective. Um, and it's just all around a good time. Um, 'cause every now and then even I like to enjoy pan fishing, just like relax. I'm chilling with a buddy. Um, we're drinking some adult drinks and just having ourselves a good time. And I mean, it is just, it's one of the most relaxing fish that you can do without having to exert a whole lot of energy. Catfish on the other hand, um, catfish, they'll eat just about anything. I could throw a piece of chicken liver out there and just let it marinate. And next thing you know, there's like a five pound channel cat, 20 pound flathead, depending upon where you are in Georgia, I think towards more of the Savannah going towards Atlanta side, they have some blues.
Speaker 2 (00:27:55):
Uh, um, I think, what is it called? Oh boy, I think it, oh, Geechee. Oh, Geechee River. Uh, they have blues, uh, in the oh, Geechee. Um, they're really, it's really, really simple for just freshwater fishing in general. Now, as far as like my bass fishermen, I love my bass fishermen, but sometimes , y'all do too much . You need like, maybe two, three rods max. You got your top water, you got your suspended, you got your bottom working baits. I had a buddy of mine who was really, really obsessed with bass, uh, bass fishing. He would load up his bass boat and he would have 20 rods worth of stuff already set, ready to go. I'm like, Hey man, I love your dedication, but why you have so much of this stuff? He's like, oh, I'll just cast it, you know, five, six times. If I don't get a bite, I'll switch out for another one and see what they want. I'm like, oh, .
Speaker 1 (00:28:50):
I, I understand .
Speaker 2 (00:28:55):
But, um, bass fishing, um, bait casters are a little bit more advanced. You gotta work the drag system, um, a little bit more because you're prone to birds nesting a lot more. Especially if you're using monofilament or braid on a bait caster compared to a spinning reel, um, which is like your open top. You flip the bale and you throw it out, you're good to go. Um, bait casters, in my opinion, are awesome. They got like a little bit of a sleeker design. I can work the drag with my thumb in the event that it is too big of a fish. I can just clamp down on it and just kind of use my thumb as a break to kind of help the real fight the fish, uh, help the rod in real fight the fish. Now, um, salt water dependent upon what type of salt water fishing you wanna do. Um, like say, Hey, I just want to go for whiting. You know, the like the inshore fish, excuse me, I oof whatever I ate earlier, did not agree with me. We're good .
Speaker 2 (00:30:02):
Um, but so inshore fishing, red fish, uh, speckled trout, um, snook, tarpon, um, some types of snapper. Uh, let's see. Sheeps head. Super, super easy to get into. Um, you're gonna be paying a little bit more than what you would in freshwater, but it's not like, um, hey, I'm gonna go get me a 12 foot surf rod with, uh, let's say a Stella 3000 by Shimano. What is, yeah, I think that's what it is. It Shimano Stella 3000. I think it's like the real itself is just an absolute beast. Um, it's like right on par with, uh, the pen torque two, which is, uh, both reels put out 70 pounds of drag open bale. Not the conventional open bale. 70 pounds of drag out of a reel like that is insane. Um, but also that drag system, once you start getting into much larger stuff, you're looking at spending a pretty penny, like anywhere between $800 to almost $1,300.
Speaker 2 (00:31:22):
That's like the high end, um, 10,500 series reels that are putting out these massive amounts of drag. Now I know, um, pen Penn made a, uh, spinning, uh, spinning reel. It's the, what is the pen slammer mark four 10,500. It puts out 60 pounds, 65 pounds of drag. Um, and it's cost effective. It's like 300 to $375 just for the reel itself compared to the pen torque two and the Stella. Um, that's starting to get into your, your big rigs, your, your heavy tackle. Like, hey, this is the stuff I'm using to catch 6, 7, 8 foot sharks. Uh, duking it out with a hundred to 200 pound Goliath groupers. The, these are the, the man eaters of the, the fishing community as far as the, um, spinning reels. Then you get into your conventional reels. You got your pen and you got your internationals by pen.
Speaker 2 (00:32:31):
You got your, um, TGA by Shinu. You got, uh, your meccas by, uh, Kuma. You got your, um, avid reels. Those are powerhouse reels that are putting out, depending upon the variant, um, they could put out anywhere between 65 pounds to a hundred plus pounds worth of drag. Um, we had an incident where I had my Tiago one 30 set up on a custom rod, which I'll get little, uh, I'll get into that a little bit later on, uh, in the podcast. But all I'm gonna say is the event that unfolded, what that type of equipment took me and three other dudes for a ride down the beach, it was not a fun time. . So when getting big equipment means yes, you have the opportunity to get something massive, but it's not always gonna happen. But when it does happen, it is scramble. Get the fighting harness, get get your belt, get, you know, cross your d's, dot your i's and pray that the the line, everything holds up. Otherwise you're gonna get a face full of rod blank and it's not gonna be fun.
Speaker 1 (00:33:49):
No, that doesn't sound like a good time. No, well you definitely nailed a lot of pieces there. Um, let, let's talk, uh, the last two pieces of that. Um, so let's talk seasons. Uh, what type of unique challenges and tips do you have for fishing during the season, such as winter and summer? Obviously those are the ultimate high and low there. 'cause you got too hot and too cold, lethargic, and, uh, and no one wants to be out when it's hot. What do you got for that?
Speaker 2 (00:34:15):
So, depending upon like the seasons with temperature wise, temperature is a really big factor in it. Um, 'cause obviously the, the colder it is, the more sluggish, uh, lethargic the fish becomes. Um, typically you see an increase in activity during the spring going into the summer. Summer's gonna be its peak then going into the fall. Um, for salt water wise, salt water, everything will start to migrate during the fall and in the spring. Um, so it kind of flip flops between spring and fall for migratory fish, like red drum for example. Um, they migrate, they'll go during the winter, they'll come in from the north, then they'll go south and they'll start to make their way down to the Florida Keys where there's a little bit more warmer water. Um, and then they'll spawn. And then during the spring they'll come back up and then it's rinse was repeat.
Speaker 2 (00:35:09):
Um, and then during the fall, uh, no, I already said fall, spring, everything will move back up. Um, because the water will start to get warmer, it'll start to migrate north a little bit more. And then there's also an increase in shark presence as well. So during springtime going into summer, they'll start to migrate up from the Florida Keys. They'll start to work your way up to, uh, the coast of Georgia, the Carolinas, Virginia for, uh, even Virginia. Um, you'll have all this migratory fish. And the next thing you know, you have your entire coastline just completely full of all these different varieties of fish that typically aren't gonna be there all year round, uh, because of the weather. Has that impact on certain species of fish. Um, like hammerheads for example, hammerheads typically like to live in more like tropical areas where it's kind of warm.
Speaker 2 (00:36:05):
Um, they're not like dusy sharks where they don't mine the cold. Um, you'll see dusy sharks, you'll see sandbars and more cold areas, uh, especially like in the New Jersey area. I was in New Jersey fishing that one time and we caught a sandbar shark, little, little sandbar shark, and we threw it back and, you know, there was, uh, it was like so cool 'cause it was my first shark ever. Um, but then actually reading into it, studying, you're seeing a pattern, um, on how different fish move now. One of my bucket list fish, the great white, um, I'm noticing that there, there's this one, uh, this one shark that I've been, uh, kind of tracking and watching its movements and kind of seeing what its habits are. I'm noticing during the spring it'll start to migrate north. It'll start to like be in the, like the Boston area.
Speaker 2 (00:37:01):
It'll kind of fan out more towards the, the North Atlantic portion of it. And then it'll come back down and then it will just circle in the Georgia area. Now, I don't know if you know this, and not a whole lot of people know, but the Brunswick area at St. Simon's is one of the number one breeding capitals for great white sharks. And so I'm noticing a pattern. It'll swim this area, it'll stay right out, like right by the St. Simon's area. And then it'll start to migrate down south port Florida and start to work its way down into the Gulf. And it's really cool just monitoring that one fish that you're tracking constantly just watching its behaviors and seeing if you can connect the dots between other different types of sharks. It's just, it's like, um, it's like you're playing chess and it's so, it's like so cool.
Speaker 2 (00:37:51):
Once you figure out what its patterns are, it's like, okay, I know what this fish is gonna do. What about all the other sharks or other different species of fish? Are their patterns gonna be same? How can I correlate the two with them? You know, am I noticing something here? What would be the best time for it? Um, I'm also like looking at, okay, the moon chart, oh, it was here at this area at this time with this particular temperature on this particular moon phase. And then I try and connect the dots to see is it reoccurring? Is it a fluke? Is it a coincidence? And then it's, it's so cool, just kind of finally, it's like you're solving a mystery.
Speaker 1 (00:38:32):
People don't realize that they can get, I mean, fishing's a rabbit hole if you really want it to be fishing can be the greatest research and rabbit hole ever. Um, Spencer broken reel 23 and did an episode with him a while back. Uh, and Spencer has a notebook full of knowledge that man to the day. And he will, he, he won't admit to this and I'll, I'll admit it to him for him, just because I've seen him do it. And I've watched him and I've chatted with him, that man will tell you when the fish will be there. He knows he's his own farmer, farmer's Almanac. The dude knows. But again, it goes back to what you were saying, he's been tracking all of these things over a period of time. You can really get into the knowledge. Hmm, that's kind of cool.
Speaker 2 (00:39:19):
The knowledge is there. It's just how deep of how deep do you wanna dive into the rabbit hole? Um, yes. And it's, it's super cool once you start, it's like an addiction. I, and it's a healthy addiction, but some of my friends that I hang out with say, you're crazy. I'm like, no. I just am very passionate about what I do.
Speaker 1 (00:39:39):
Well, another question in this category. We skipped it on accident, I misread, uh, let's talk about going to a new spot. So you get somewhere brand new, great example. You know, kids can fish. People come in from out of town. W what do you do, uh, when you're going to a new place? What do you, how do you do it?
Speaker 2 (00:39:54):
So when I go to a new spot, typically where I'm gonna look is for swells in the water to, uh, canals, runoffs, anything that can be used as a feeding frenzy for small baked fish to get caught in. I'm looking at those areas. I'm looking at areas of possible high traffic. I'm monitoring the current what, uh, when it's gonna be. Its lowest. Uh, I'm monitoring the tide, looking at the sandbars. When the, when the o when the tide finally goes all the way out, I'm looking at the beach like, okay, I'm seeing a little crevice here. It's kind of cut out. That can be a highway for fish to, to, uh, travel during high tide. So I'm kind of piecing together puzzles on the fly while I'm there. Um, I'll use this for example, uh, the St. Simon's Island channel. Um, I've always noticed on incoming tide, which will be the high tide, I noticed that the frenzy begins, um, with say, I'm gonna fish the pier like this Saturday I'm going to the pier.
Speaker 2 (00:41:00):
I'm, I'm looking for that high tide because when I'm throwing out, my bait is going to get pushed out into the open waters, into the channel and it'll sit there. Now what I've noticed is there'll be fish that are either swimming in or they'll, they'll, they'll do something called parking. They'll sit there, they'll wait, they'll wait for fish to come in, uh, like dead fish, um, fish that may be sick. They're waiting and, um, for an opportunity. And so anything that's coming from the ocean is getting pushed into the channel. And then that's where they're sitting. And then next thing you know, you're getting picked up and he is running. Um, I'm also looking for, uh, cutoffs. So kind of fresh water going into salt water, uh, like kind of brackish water areas. I'm looking for, um, narrow entryway for fish to use, um, to kind of traffic their movements.
Speaker 2 (00:42:02):
Um, there is, I'll use this one for example, down in Darien. Um, that's brackish water right now is peak time to go for strip bass, which is one of the, the fish on my wall. I haven't been, uh, going for stripe bass in a while, but I know right around this time is when they're gonna start using that particular body of water of where I've gone fishing for strip bass, currently schooling, breeding, doing all that kind of stuff. And I'm looking for cutouts. That's where they're gonna be at. You're looking for vegetation, you're looking for the brush. If you're inshore fishing. Now, if you're surf fishing is a completely different story. Um, but inshore fishing, I'm looking for those small narrow cutouts. I'm looking for swells. I'm looking for spill ports. I'm looking for anything that can be used to accumulate and trap bait fish.
Speaker 2 (00:42:54):
They'll be right there waiting. Um, me and a buddy of mine, um, chase, we went strike bass fishing and we were throwing beetle spins, uh, spoons and uh, spinner baits. And the first time this, this, I think this was the first time that he's ever gone, um, stripe bass fishing is when I had met him, he was just throwing like a spoon or beetle spin. And the fish hit so hard and so violently it almost ripped his rod out of his hand 'cause he was not expecting it. They were in that frenzy because there was, uh, a bait ball that was kind of pushed up in one of these spillways and they couldn't escape. So they're just going crazy. I'm looking for stuff like that. Um, compared to surf fishing, I'm looking for those breaks. I'm looking for the sandbars. I'm looking for areas of high traffic. I'm looking for possible, um, uh, what are they called? Not rip currents, but I'm looking for when I have a wave coming here, a wave coming here kind of vs out and then it pushes. And any of the bait fish that kind of get caught in that current, they're, they're kind of just at the mercy of mother nature at that point. And most predatory fish take advantage of that and they'll just pick 'em off and go. So I'm looking for those particular areas to fish.
Speaker 1 (00:44:21):
Yeah, the runs, run outs are great. Oh yeah, they really are. Uh, and let's finish up this category here. 'cause we gotta do a ba check here soon. Well, what are some tops, uh, fishing mistakes to avoid? And how can anglers continuously improve their skills and knowledge?
Speaker 2 (00:44:37):
Gimme one second. Quit holding your open bale reels like this. Why not?
Speaker 3 (00:44:47):
It's fine. It's fine
Speaker 2 (00:44:50):
This way, please.
Speaker 1 (00:44:52):
It's the proper way, but it's fine . It's fine.
Speaker 2 (00:44:56):
Every time I see that, uh, a part of me dies, , um, what I would, what I would recommend, all jokes aside, um, what I would recommend is listen to the old guys. And what I mean by that is they are a book of knowledge, um, dependent upon their field. Either they fish fresh water all their life, either they fish, salt, water all their life, listen to them, um, because they've been in the business for a while now, I'm not gonna say like charter business, but they know what's going on. They know how to properly do stuff. And most of the time, all of the, the, the older generation of fishermen that I have talked to, they would rather give you the information to succeed, then steer you wrong. Because it kind of gives them that sense of, look, I know that I'm not gonna be able to pick this up 'cause e even in due time, I'm gonna have arthritis and I'm not even gonna be able to grip this thing.
Speaker 2 (00:45:58):
So being able to give the knowledge to the younger generations for them to succeed would put a smile on their face knowing that, hey, I'm doing something good for the community. Even if I later on down the road won't be able to, to participate, I still have the knowledge to give you. Um, there was one guy, uh, I'll use this for example. He was, he was my father figure. Um, I've looked up to him all my life. It was my path. And he had taught me everything of what I needed to know for fresh water. He taught me, okay, this is what to do for, uh, to water fishing. This is, um, how you do finesse fishing. Um, and then this is how like he, he was like an open book of knowledge and any question that I had asked, he gave me the answer for.
Speaker 2 (00:46:50):
Um, so I would really say to the younger generation and people who are watching, listen to the old guys. Um, because at the end of the day, they're gonna give you the knowledge of what you need. Um, like there's this one guy now who had recently got me on the topic of, Hey, use this simple trick and it will work. I'm not gonna say what it is, but he said, use this simple trick and it will work. And so me and my buddy, we had tested it and we were just baffled. We looked at each other with like the most, like we had just seen Disney World for the first time kind of look like, and we're like nine, eight years old. We're like, we were so shocked. We went back to him in person the very next day and said, it works. And then his smile went from just ear to ear. He was like, I told you. And it was that kind of like cocky, see, see what happens when you listen. And we ended up catching 12 large mouth, uh, no, what was it? No, it was a pond that was high pressured and we couldn't get anything to bite. We did this one simple trick and we ended up getting seven blowups and three large mouth bass caught. And we went the very next day we told him and said, Hey, look like this works. He's like, see, I told you. So,
Speaker 1 (00:48:15):
So is that, is that gonna be on your YouTube?
Speaker 2 (00:48:18):
Uh, probably .
Speaker 1 (00:48:19):
. That's actually a perfect segue. Um, but while we're doing that, it's been 48. It's time baby. Yep. It's time for another paycheck. Yeah. Gotta bring that line in, make sure everything's still good. 'cause you still got more fishing to do.
Speaker 1 (00:48:38):
That's right folks. It is your next set of paycheck there. And this paycheck's being brought to you by Ds, custom tactical Delaware surf fishing, uh, team up there that does the pomp. It ain't easy. That's right. The crew up there has got a lot of good stuff. If you need rigs, if you need hooks, floats, beads, you name it, they got it for you. They got you covered on all of those aspects. Take a look at the website, ds custom tackle.com, get your order in real good shipping and hey, great product. I use it. I can honestly attest to it. You guys know if I don't use it, I don't talk about it on this show. That's just not how I roll. So ds custom tackle.com. Alright, so now that we're talking into that, let, let's talk about the social media. So you are a YouTuber. You do a lot of good stuff with that, and you've got some really cool sponsorships. Um, and you being a fellow veteran, you've also got some great organizations that you've been working with. So let's start a little bit. First, let's talk about your, your, let's talk about your social media and then let's talk about sponsors. Tell us, uh, tell us about your channel, how you got started as a digital creator in the Phish industry.
Speaker 2 (00:49:39):
So how I kind of got started, it, it, it was more of a joke. Um, I was fishing with my, uh, my good buddy Chase. And um, I just kind of threw an idea out there and I'm like, you know, that would be so cool, you know, uh, kind of going out, doing some goofy stuff. We originally, what I wanted to do is I wanted to make a, uh, like a comic relief phishing YouTube channel. That's where I was kind of going, uh, where it was just more, it was more nonchalant. There would would be more jokes, uh, stuff like that. And it kind of turned into a, Hey look, I can make this into a more broader spectrum. I can do episodes, I can do tournaments, I can do how to fishing tips and tricks. I can do so much more than just make a couple jokes, make a couple people laugh, you know, and I still kind of want to go through that.
Speaker 2 (00:50:31):
But on a more serious level, on kind of being more informative, more proactive, engaging the audience, kind of drawing them in, uh, and kind of like taking them on an adventure in a sense. Um, there has been two episodes so far. Um, it is, um, catching Monsters. I did a, a section on it, uh, and I was targeting Bo in, uh, Boin is a freshwater fish that I was targeting for a while. I know a lot of good spots. I know how they, uh, how they operate, how they feed, how their behavior is. And I've just caught so many of them. I'm like, you know what? It would be really cool if I could just do a segment on this. I could talk about it. Um, I can kind of give them the, the viewers that, Hey, you're tagging along with me. We gotta a set goal.
Speaker 2 (00:51:24):
We're gonna try and meet it. And the only way that that season will end is if we meet our targeted goal. Um, my targeted goal is catching a 13 pound boin. Um, because that took what the state record is compared to the world record is to the most common, uh, weighted fish of what I've caught so far. And then I kind of crunched some numbers. I'm like, okay, 13 is my targeted goal. It is a really decent fish, but it's not so disproportionate that it'll probably never happen. Um, so kind of engaging in them, uh, with the viewers that way and drawing them in like, Hey, this isn't just, um, me ranting about, you know, um, oh, look at this, you know, blue, blue fish, you know, just throw it back and call it a day. No, I'm taking you for an adventure. I'm giving you knowledge.
Speaker 2 (00:52:23):
I'm telling you, hey, this is pretty cool, but at the same time, I'm gonna make it entertaining. I'm taking you along for the ride. Um, and that's kind of how I want to set up my channel. I want it to be informative. I want it to be more engaging with people and kind of just touching base with them. Um, I know that I'm still currently working on the, the tournament that, uh, that we were at for the Kids Can Fish Foundation. Still a lot of footage that is three days worth of footage and I still have to make sure everything's good. It's properly edited. Um, any sort of, um, not family friendly. Uh, audio is cut it out properly. I have so, 'cause YouTube gets mad, they get mad, have so much stuff I have to take into consideration. What music am I going to use?
Speaker 2 (00:53:19):
Is it gonna be copyrighted? If it does get copyrighted? Is it safe for the YouTube platform? Does it give permission to be used in videos? I have to take all this stuff into consideration, um, while still trying to make it as entertaining as possible. Um, in total, I know, I know I'm gonna start throwing out numbers and I'm gonna start getting geeky with computer stuff. Just the raw footage alone is 37.6 gigabytes. That, and to put that in perspective, that is for, for my gamers out there, that is half of a Call of Duty download .
Speaker 2 (00:54:01):
And that is so much memory that takes up in the computer itself. That's just unedited footage. That's not incorporating the cuts, that's not including the deleted scenes, that's not InCorp incorporating anything. The music, the audio, the sound effects, the, the shaders, everything. And it's probably gonna be way more than that. And I'm probably looking at anywhere between 40 to 50 gigabytes. So it's very, very time consuming. However, do I enjoy it? Absolutely. Because I get to reflect back. I get to look back like, Hey, I did that. I wonder how other people are gonna react to it. Do they want more of this? If they want more of this, I'm gonna continue to do it because it's um, it's engaging. Um, but the joke of how it started was I told, we, me and my buddy, we went to the river and I said, Hey, the sunlight's hitting the river just right and it glisten just, just right. And I'm like, yeah, that's a Gold River. And then reality said, I went Gold River fishing. He went, what? I said, gold River fishing. He's like, are you running the fever? I said, gold River Fishing . And I'm like, that's my YouTube channel. He's like, oh, for moment there I thought you were having a stroke. And I'm like, no, that was not the time for Jokes . And I said, that's gonna be my channel. And then that's what it, it ended up, uh, building up to today.
Speaker 1 (00:55:29):
Nice. Well done dude. And you've done some good stuff. You got some really cool videos on there. I got the per a little bit, but when we started talking and I got to take a look there. Um, and, and along the way, I mean, you nailed a bunch of the questions. Well done, uh, , but you maybe I gotta stop sending people the pre-questions gets you too prepared, man.
Speaker 2 (00:55:47):
. No, no, no, no, no, no. Otherwise that'd be over here sweating bullets and stuttering every other word. . No, don't do that.
Speaker 1 (00:55:57):
So along the way though, you managed to pick up some pretty cool sponsorships. Let's talk about that. So tell me about those.
Speaker 2 (00:56:03):
So I have four sponsors in total that are 100% vacuuming. Um, and then I got a couple more that I'm working with and one just recently. Um, it's more of like a, a partnership, not necessarily a sponsor, not necessarily like a business deal, it's just, Hey, at this point in time, uh, I wanna work with you and this is how we're gonna do things. I'm so sorry, I trying to fix the flash banging issue. For whatever reason, my computer is spawning. Dude,
Speaker 1 (00:56:33):
You're good. Don't even worry about it. I mean, seriously, uh, I, you know, you talked about that whole gigabytes of footage. Uh, I hit download, uh,
Speaker 2 (00:56:43):
Speaker 1 (00:56:44):
Should reverify. Oh, okay, cool. Upload . So you're totally fine, brother. You're good. All right. Don't worry about it.
Speaker 2 (00:56:51):
So I, I'm leaning towards working with veterans and active duty personnel and, um, because I myself am a veteran, I can relate to their dark sense of humor a lot better than most people. Um, because when we get to talking and we start making jokes, a lot of people are gonna look at us like, you definitely wear Grippy socks, . But like, our sense of humor is just so uncomfortable. ,
Speaker 1 (00:57:28):
Don't judge me, .
Speaker 2 (00:57:30):
Um, it's just, it's just that level of knowing how these guys talk, knowing how they operate. Being a veteran myself, I can relate to these guys more. So one of the sponsors is Veterans Hunting and Fishing Network. Now, veterans and Hunting and Fishing Network is a relatively new organization. It was founded in 2019, um, and they got some really big goals. Um, veterans Hunting and Fishing Network. Main goal is to connect veterans to resources. Like I myself am a resource. So I go ahead, I reach out to them, I said, Hey, I'm gonna go ahead and do, let's say that that tournament, for example, the kids Can Fish Tournament. I said, Hey, I need two veterans to come fishing with me. Can we make this happen? And what they'll end up doing is they did a lottery and they draw two people and said, Hey, congratulations.
Speaker 2 (00:58:20):
You're going to go fish with this guy. You're gonna be in a video. You're gonna have a good time. Let us know. Take photos, take pictures. You know, and it was just a wonderful, wonderful time. Um, I got to know two of them. One of them is a retired army and the other one was retired Air Force. And he also helps with the Hurricane Hunters team. So I got to know their stories. Um, I got to tell 'em some of my stories, some of the jokes of what, uh, they Army, air Force, Marine Corps, Navy, whatever, pranks. They told me their best moments as pranks wise, I'm not gonna say what they are 'cause they're way out there. But, um, just know, uh, a Porter Potty was involved, , and, uh, we had a new cast member for the Blue Man Crew. .
Speaker 1 (00:59:14):
Yeah. It's always, people don't realize the amount of jokes that come from our world and porta-potties.
Speaker 2 (00:59:20):
Oh, yeah. Like, um, like myself, I, uh, I'll go ahead. I, I'll go ahead. I'll give you a joke myself. I was pulling staff duty one day. Now, for those of you who don't know what staff duty is, staff duty is like night guards. You're making sure everybody's good, everything's okay. And I went around checking the doors, the barracks rooms, just to make sure that they're locked. Well, if I found a door that was unlocked, you were snuggling Kermit the Frog that night. And what do I mean by that is I dropped off a bullfrog in your room in a random location, and I closed the door. And one guy, it's kind of gentle. It's kind of gentle. Yeah. I, I was being gentle with it. But one guy in particular said, I woke up to what the, uh, to the sounds of, uh, somebody screaming and he couldn't figure out where it was coming from. And he ended up staying up all night. He thought it was his sleep paralysis demon .
Speaker 4 (01:00:17):
Nice.
Speaker 2 (01:00:18):
Very nice. Um, but it's, it's the kind of jokes that a whole lot of people would be like, oh, that's, that's so mean. Like, why would you do that? No, there's been way worse stuff that's happened.
Speaker 4 (01:00:30):
Why wouldn't I
Speaker 2 (01:00:32):
? Um, I, I feel like I'm getting horribly sidetracked. You are good, dude. It's on the next one. But no, the, the, it connects veterans to resources to get them outdoors more so either that be fishing, camping, hunting, um, they're all for it. Um, it builds camaraderie post-military service. So like, um, that fishing trip, I'm building a bond with them. They're building a bond with me. And if they ever wanna just reach out, be like, Hey, I would really love to go fishing again. Can you make this happen? And then I can make an arrangement be like, Hey, send me these two dudes again and then send me maybe like four extra. And then that way I can continue to build that bond with the community and make, uh, new friends along the way. Um, they connect pro staff volunteers for veterans. Um, I, I guess you consider me as pro staff.
Speaker 2 (01:01:23):
Um, so I'm helping them, uh, get out and enjoy the finer things in life without having to spend an arm and a leg on equipment. I'll already provide everything, and all they gotta do is just show up and enjoy themselves, share their stories. That's, that's what it's all about for VHFN. Just knowing these guys, understanding their story, because, um, there, I'll use this, for example, there was a World War II veteran. His name was, uh, his last name was Smiley. He was a First Sergeant. And I got, and I sat down with him and I got to learn his story. Listening to their stories is just so like, surreal and just, they are a walking history book from, uh, the military's perspective. And it's like, there's never gonna be written down in a book unless if you're, say, um, who is that? Otie Murphy, NIE Murphy's gonna be in a book, but a lot of these veterans, their stories aren't gonna be out there.
Speaker 2 (01:02:24):
So when they tell you their stories, it's, it's forever with you. And it's that, that's what I like to work with within the military community because their stories are unique in themselves. Um, so they connect veterans to local community where they can access areas that have less pressure of being over hunted or fished. Um, so say Fort Stewart, for example, um, say if I wanted to take out veterans to go to Pond 23, pond 23 hasn't been fished in forever, or I'm just throwing random numbers out there. But this is to give you an idea, um, I would be able to give them that unique experience to enjoy that and also increases their chances of catching a fish, because that's, that's my main goal. Like, if they're not catching anything, I know it's gonna sound like I'm beating myself down, but I feel like I'm failing them, which I don't want them to, to go home empty handed.
Speaker 2 (01:03:26):
Um, so I want them to have the best time possible while enjoying themselves and they tell, uh, tell their stories. Um, it also helps veterans, uh, identify state wildlife resources available to them. Um, working toward, so Veterans Hunting Efficient Network is also, uh, working towards representing all 50 states. It is divided into seven regions where they have, uh, currently 10 represented, uh, representatives in, uh, each state. Uh, so what that is is like you'll have the Southeastern District, the Northeastern District, you'll have Central America, you have North Central America. You have a zoning map of all these different communities that are putting their, their time and effort. This is all like nonprofit organization. Um, so everything of what's happening is being donated out of just, Hey, we want these guys to enjoy themselves. Um, veterans Heart and Vision Network, they donate harvested meat to food pantries when possible. So like local food banks. So say in Georgia here, uh, wild Hog is a nuisance animal. There's no bag and no tag limit on 'em. So say if I were to bring, let's just say seven guys and we end up bagging 56 Bore Wild Hogs, what are we gonna do with 56 Wild Hogs? We can donate these to Veterans Hunting and Fishing Network and then in turn they'll process the meat and send it out to food banks.
Speaker 2 (01:05:01):
Um, and then Veterans Hunting and Fishing Network volunteers for disaster relief when possible. So say like Hurricane Helene, for example. Hurricane Helene was devastating, um, for the flooding in Tennessee, wasn't it? There was a lot of flooding in Tennessee, the Carolinas, they'll help out with that. Um, and then the president, the founder of Veterans Hunting and Fishing Network work is, uh, Robert Robertson. He's a really good dude. Um, I also work with Tristan Gomez. He's a really good dude. They're this whole organization from Veterans Hunting Efficient Network is what I want to work for. I wanna work with them and I want to help represent them as a community. And it's just something to look forward to. I see a lot of great potential in them. That's why I'm like, I reached out to 'em like, Hey, would you be willing to back me with my stuff and I'll help push out all the things for Veterans Hunting and Fishing Network as well? 'cause I love how you guys are doing things. And then that's how I ended up getting Veterans Hunting and Fishing Network on board.
Speaker 1 (01:06:10):
Well done, dude. Good job.
Speaker 2 (01:06:13):
Um, now here, here's one I've never in a million years thought was possible. This was my very first sponsor ever. And it was like throwing a dart. It was throwing a dart in the dark and hoping I hit the board. Yeah, well, I ended up hitting the bullseye. So Seeker Rods based outta Orange, California. The guys who make Rod Blanks for I think it was Wicked Tuna, um, they ended up sponsoring me. They said, Hey, um, they got back with me. They had emailed me. I said, Hey, look, I'm not asking for much. This is what I wanted to do. Um, I just want a couple companies I can represent. You know, I'm not, you know, me starting out, I'm not asking for much. And so I thought I'd throw a dart in dark at one of the big, much larger corporations. And he said, yeah, let's go for it. And one day, um, I said, Hey, how would you feel? Hold on. That's, that's the topic that we gotta hold off for later. Thi this is, uh, I gotta hold off on that story,
Speaker 1 (01:07:20):
Dude, we're already in an hour, so I don't know what, how much you wanna hold.
Speaker 2 (01:07:23):
Okay. So what ended up happening is I said, Hey, I wanna build the world's strongest Rod. He went, cool. I got a rod blank just for you as what the, I think it's the, what is it, Noah, who's the, who's that shark researching company out of, uh, Brunswick? Mm-hmm . It's Noah.
Speaker 1 (01:07:42):
Um, I mean, you got Noah. Yeah, they're the big ones there. And then you got what the white conservancy. But Noah does a lot of, some of that. Well, I could be wrong. I very much so probably wrong.
Speaker 2 (01:07:52):
I believe Secret Rods is the one that gave them the rods to use to tag great white sharks, specifically built for great white sharks. And they are currently holding the record for the largest shark ever caught. It was 3,427 pounds.
Speaker 1 (01:08:14):
That's
Speaker 2 (01:08:14):
Not light . That is not light. That is a ton and a half. Um, caught it on two pound test. Yeah. Yeah. And they, and the company was founded back in, uh, 1989. Um, and it's all 100% made in America. Um, these guys do a phenomenal job with all their rod blanks, um, guide systems, uh, composite blanks, uh, rod performance, like anything of what you can think of. They have it all. Um, and if you are interested in like creating your own blank, they just have the blank itself without all the attachments. So that's how I was able to build the rod of what I was looking forward to. 'cause I'd said, Hey, let's build the world's strongest rod. I have a guy who can make Rod, uh, who can make rods. I said, how about we make this happen? He said, yeah, let's do it.
Speaker 2 (01:09:07):
And so I ended up getting the rod blank. I ended up getting the guides. I ended up getting the size six Afco Uni, but I ended up getting AB 1 1 30 class rulers. Those are almost a grand for an entire set. Uh, a shaman Tigo 1 3200 pound test braid with 200 and I think it was 200 or two 50 pound top shot. The, the whole setup itself, rod real line was five to six grand just for that rod. And one day there was a group of nine people. We went to Gold's Inlet at St. Simon's. And believe it or not, it was right around this time when great white sharks started to breed. They're out here in Brunswick area. And our, the, the rod got picked up. I said, cool. Threw it in the strike. Now strike is 75 pounds of drag. That's a lot of drag, not stopping.
Speaker 2 (01:10:10):
I went, cool. Kept going for an additional five, 10 minutes. Not stopping. Okay. Getting worried, kept going. I said, all right, I need three guys to hold me. I got two guys on one side. I have one guy in the middle. I'm like, all right, max drag. And I leaned all the way back and just pressed the button in and went for the first time I have ever seen that Rod completely just buckle. And it was going, it wasn't a one 30 class, it wasn't an 80 class. It was a wicked 180 composite rod. It was in a class on its own. And we got it to bend and to plain like this. It was an absolute exhilarating time until it turned into a nightmare because now I'm getting drug down the beach with three people. And I know the guy who was videotaping it, Brandon Nettles, you still have to send me that video. It's still buffering . Um, and it ended up with two stress fractures on the rod blank on the, uh, rod blank itself. And I sent that over to, to, uh, seeker. I said, Hey, I broke the rod. They're like, what do you mean you broke the rod? And I sent him the video. I sent him everything of like the aftermath. And he's like, how did you manage that? I said, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (01:11:41):
Called a shark. And it, it's really big.
Speaker 2 (01:11:43):
Yes. And so the leader that we had, that I had made for that, it was the size 32 circle hook with, with uh, 16 ounces worth of weight on there, spider weight, 16 ounce spider weight. And it was 30 foot, uh, it was, the whole thing was 30 foot long talking about the bike section of the steel leader going up to a thousand pound swivels, going up to a thousand pound monofilament. And there was 25 feet of shock leader. And when we checked the aftermath of it, because Rod Blank decided to go, we were looking at all the abrasion marks 'cause sharks, they have very sandpaper skin. And so you could tell when something is chipping away at the monofilament, you can see the rub marks. And we had measured it out. It was roughly 20 feet in length.
Speaker 1 (01:12:36):
Oh, that was a great white
Speaker 2 (01:12:37):
. That was a great white you had great, that was the fish that I was chasing
Speaker 1 (01:12:40):
.
Speaker 2 (01:12:42):
And you could see the teeth marks on the hook. You could see everything with the abrasion marks on the monofilament from the shock leader.
Speaker 1 (01:12:52):
So what ended up happening, the hook pop,
Speaker 2 (01:12:54):
Um, when it finally buckled with the stress fractures? Yeah, it gave slack and then it, nothing, it was gone.
Speaker 1 (01:13:04):
Hmm,
Speaker 2 (01:13:05):
Interesting. 'cause we were using barbless hooks.
Speaker 1 (01:13:08):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (01:13:10):
'cause if you use a Barbless hook, it's easier to to pull it out and get the the shark. It increases the survivability for shark fishing. Oh
Speaker 1 (01:13:19):
Yeah. Yeah. So
Speaker 2 (01:13:20):
You crimp your barbs down, you file them. It, it's no longer a barb hook. 'cause Barb hooks they can take forever try and get out. Versus a barbless you just pop pull and send it back on its way.
Speaker 1 (01:13:30):
Yeah. Yeah. That's good. I'm sorry you missed your great white man.
Speaker 2 (01:13:34):
No, it's good. There's always another time.
Speaker 1 (01:13:37):
Absolutely. But,
Speaker 2 (01:13:38):
Um, another really good sponsor that's backing me is great anglers.com. So great anglers.com. I love it because it's an American company. I know the guy personally. I actually met the guy. Um, it is an app that you can use for phishing and so if you wanna pull it up on your phone, um, they got really, really cool stuff. So they got everything from bait and tackle shops on there to guide services to charter boats. Um, they have Tide charts on there. They have, um, uh, partner ads and everything like that. If you wanna advertise your stuff on there as well, you can do that. And the best part is it's free. Um, they're based out of, I wanna say Delaware. They're based out of Delaware. Um, and it's, it, it's just one of those coolest features. Like I can even pull it up right now.
Speaker 2 (01:14:34):
I can pull up locations and it'll give me the entire world of, okay, hey, this fish was caught in this location. What was he using? What time of year was it? Um, like if you scroll all the way down to Georgia, I don't know if you're on your phone or whatnot, but if you look at Brunswick area, Jekyll, you could see all the fish of what I've caught. Mm-hmm . You could, you could see what I was using, where I was at, what time was it? What was the, uh, I think that even gives you temperature and everything. Like it goes really, really in depth. So it's a helpful tool for fishermen who are starting out. Uh, they want to know, Hey, how can I do this? Use this app. And you can go ahead and you can find out, Hey, uh, let's go Jim Johnny caught a speckled trout at this area at this time using this bait.
Speaker 2 (01:15:27):
Um, maybe I should try that. And now they're getting interested. It's giving them information. And the best part is at the end of the year. So they'll have like a leaderboards for the biggest fish caught for, uh, the, the the year. Um, I'll go ahead. I'll use the small mouth bass. So say, um, Timmy little two shoes caught a seven pound small mouth bass. And it's the largest one of the year. Once that, once the new year starts, he has officially won that particular fish for the biggest one of that year. You'll get like t-shirts, you'll get a magazine, you'll get like a little placard paper that says, Hey, congratulations you caught this fish on this year. You were the biggest one for that. You know, species cool. It engages with them and I really, really like it. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:16:25):
A lot of comments on all the pictures.
Speaker 2 (01:16:27):
Yeah. It's like a super, super reliable app. Um, that it's like a cheat code if you use it correctly. It's a cheat code . Um, and that's what I would use for, um, people who are starting out. Mm-hmm . It's a really, really good tool. I would check out grid anglers.com. I would recommend them 100% of the time over Fish brainin. It's super simple to use and it's free.
Speaker 1 (01:16:57):
Good. Stunned. I like
Speaker 2 (01:16:59):
It. Yeah. And then we got one more. We got Country Feed and Outdoors. They're actually local to Georgia. Uh, they're located in Jessup, uh, country Feed and Outdoors opened in December of 2017 as a feed and seed store. Um, and then they shortly opened after they started selling live bait and tackle. Uh, William is the owner. He enjoys hunting, fishing. Um, he's, uh, committed to carrying products that work for the southeastern Georgia area. With the help of our customers and people in the industry, um, they have been able to do that. Um, lar they largely carry, uh, brands such as Iowa Lewis Strike Kings, decos, six Sense, Stella Spins, must Adds and Zooms. So they have all of the essentials to get you started, but they also have that opportunity. Uh, no, they also have the, the means of getting you additional tackle. So if say they don't have something of what you need, say like this Rod, for example, I said, Hey, I got this tournament coming up with Veterans Hunting and Fishing Network.
Speaker 2 (01:18:06):
Can we order X, Y, and Z rods and reels? I know that you guys don't have it. Is it, as you know, is it something that you guys can do? And they said, absolutely. We can do that. And their, their fishing guy, his name is Jesse. He is a phenomenal guy. Absolutely love talking to him. If you name anything fish wise, he'll he is, he's like an encyclopedia. He say, fish. And he's, he's like, I heard fish. And he's coming right over to you. He's super friendly. He's super helpful. I enjoy working with these guys. They always bring a smile to my face. They give you that family friendly atmosphere and they're also willing to work with you and, and give you like, the knowledge of what they have. So, um, when I had brought out that idea of, Hey, can I work with you guys? Can you work with me and then I can potentially help you guys while you guys are helping me? And it turned into that bond of, Hey William, Mr. William, how's it going? How's it going, Mr. Tyler? Like, it it is, it has turned more into as it doesn't feel like it's business related anymore. It's like, it's that welcoming atmosphere. And I would highly recommend them all of the time. Um, they're just super, it's, I don't, I don't even know what to say. It's just nothing but good things.
Speaker 1 (01:19:32):
Good stuff, dude. Good job. Yeah. I look forward to hearing more about it. I know we'll stay in touch and I look forward to hearing how the rest of the programs go. 'cause that'll be, uh, that'll be cool to see how it works. I think it's gonna be good.
Speaker 2 (01:19:40):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:19:41):
Well, let's, uh, let's, let's transition into a little bit more of your channel here and we'll get you outta here. 'cause I know we've been running more an hour and 20 here, so I don't want, I don't wanna keep you all night. I'll,
Speaker 2 (01:19:50):
I'll talk your ear off with fishing .
Speaker 1 (01:19:53):
Oh, this. I'm not even, I'm, I'm good, man. I got a camera and a phone. I got, I got this all day. So we
Speaker 2 (01:19:58):
Got it
Speaker 1 (01:19:59):
All. We, we, we started talking about the YouTube and how you got it started. What has been the goal of the channel though? Or No, I mean, rephrase that. You started with the goal. You talked about it, how you had an idea for it, how you've been building it. So you, you've really honed that in. So like, the next question is what I was gonna ask you, which is, has running your channel made you a better angler? And if so, how?
Speaker 2 (01:20:20):
I, I would say it has brought me closer to a, a lot of different people. Um, I wouldn't say it made me better as an angular. It ma it gave me more informative, a more informative angler. Not necessarily like, oh, I'm going out there every single day and just catching X, Y, and Z. No, I'm, I have all these different people that I get to talk to. They share their stories, they share techniques and that that's if they want to, because, you know, fishermen's tails and, you know, they, they hide their secrets. It's okay, keep your secrets. I'll find out eventually. But , um, but learning what they have to say, learning how they do things, how they run things, um, kind of gives me an opportunity to just listen. Not necessarily just get out there and go do, it's just the information that you absorb is a lot better when it comes down to, um, imple, um, implementing them out in the field. So sometimes, literally knowledge is power. Knowing how to do certain things is way better than just going out there and just phish. I mean, obviously phishing is part of it, but going out there with the techniques, the how-tos, the tips and tricks, they can greatly increase your chances on catching. So I would say yes and no. I know that's kind of like a gray question, not, but it's, it's like, it's like a double-edged sword. Yes. But no,
Speaker 1 (01:22:03):
I like how you answered it personally. You were truthful. So I mean, you gave it the whole, you gave it the reason that it was so that's a lot better than, you know, the, the fluff that it could have been. So we're good with that. Uh, when you got into this, I mean, it's always a fun question to ask this one. Do you have a mentor?
Speaker 2 (01:22:23):
I, I would say I had a mentor. Okay. Um, and if I, my mentor had to be anybody. It had to have been my pap. Um, he, uh, my pap and my uncle actually, um, those two is what started this avalanche of fishing. Um, that, that just, those two is what kind of broke the ice. And, and now I'm, I'm just going and I'm doing, and I'm, it's, I don't think they had taught me, I don't think I would be here today. Um, those two have been, fishing wise have been the biggest impact in my life just because they, they nurtured me up to who I am today. They taught me all the tips, all the tricks, all the how tos, the dos, the don'ts, how to work, finesse rigs, how to use this at this particular, it, it's just, without them, I don't think I would be here with the knowledge and the ability to just enjoy the water. Um, had, had they not even met with me to taking me fishing, I'd probably look at you and be like, no, I don't. I don't wanna go fishing. No, that's ew, that sounds gross. You know. Ew. You gotta touch worms. Ew.
Speaker 1 (01:23:50):
. Yeah. Yeah. You're wrong.
Speaker 2 (01:23:55):
I think, I think my uncle and my, my papp are the two biggest mentors of my life.
Speaker 1 (01:24:00):
That's good stuff. Good job, dude. Uh, let's talk about where, where can people find you, man? Talk about that. How do we, people get in touch with you? How do they get to that find of this whole thing about Gold River fishing?
Speaker 2 (01:24:13):
Well, um, if you are local to the Georgia area, I'm located within the Fort Stewart area. I haven't left my, my army home. Um, typically I like to fish anywhere on the Georgia Coast. Either be from Tybee all the way down to Brunswick. Um, now as far as my channel pages, you can find me on YouTube at Gold River Fishing. Uh, go ahead. Look up Gold River fishing. You'll see the, the black banner with the shark jaws with the globe in the middle. And you've got a hammerhead shark swimming up here. And you'll have like a little catfish that swims down. It's like a little yin yang . Um,
Speaker 1 (01:24:51):
Very fitting. It really is for that. It is like the pole. It's the top and the bottom. But that was just how I was like, yep, that's the apex. And that's, uh, I got that.
Speaker 2 (01:25:02):
Yep. And it, and it's so cool because it accurately represents me as a fisherman. 'cause I fish both salt and fresh water. And the hammerhead, I, I kind of use that 'cause a lot. The shark fishermen love to catch hammerheads. So we use that as the apex predator. I was thinking, ah, great white shark. Ooh yeah, great, great. White sharks are awesome, but you don't want to continuously target them. 'cause they're federally protected as like the, the hammerheads in Florida, they're federally protected versus in Georgia they're not. Um, so that's why I said, oh, hammerheads are like the go-to diehard shark, fisherman's dream. I'm gonna put that as on the top because it's the apex predator. And I did the catfish on the bottom. 'cause while it's bottom theater , um, I run three different platforms. I already gave my YouTube, you can find me on TikTok at Gold River Fishing. And then you can also find me on Instagram at Gold River fishing.
Speaker 1 (01:26:07):
Yeah. Insta likes to make it extra, extra tough for following, for some ungodly reason. I never understood that.
Speaker 2 (01:26:14):
Yeah, they're, they're, they're a little special, but I love 'em. They're like, that pug that awkwardly sits in the corner of your world.
Speaker 1 (01:26:21):
. Yeah. Yeah. Just definitely, definitely got the weird eyes on you, . Uh, all right, let's get these closing questions. Get you outta here for the night, man. Um, so let, let's talk about the beginners here. Let's, for someone just starting out into fishing, what's one piece of advice you get 'em, just to get 'em started on the right path,
Speaker 2 (01:26:40):
Just to get 'em started. You don't need the most high dollar equipment. Um, you don't need to go out and buy a 200, $300 rod. Start off with a little zco and then just talk to some of the old guys, um, and just get their stories, how they do things, how they can get you started. I would use, um, the older generation as a booklet. And then I would use like your zep codes. You lose, um, those rods Quantum, for example, but quantum switched over to salt water. Um, I would buy the, oh, Shakespeare Shakespeare's, yeah. Gives you a little Shakespeare 20 shake
Speaker 1 (01:27:21):
.
Speaker 2 (01:27:22):
And, um, just go, just go out there and get a feel for it. So that way you're not throwing a whole bunch of money into it. And if you don't like it, you're not spending a whole lot. So you're not really going into a money pit. It's like a, it's like taste testing, but fishing. Does that make any sense? It's like you're getting a taste tester.
Speaker 1 (01:27:38):
That's one way that, that's definitely an, an unexpected way to put that. But yeah, that, that, that does work. car, uh, you already answered the other one there, so we nailed that one. Before we wrap up, do you have any final thoughts or tips you'd like to share with listeners who are interested in this whole world that we love known as fishing?
Speaker 2 (01:28:00):
I just, I would say just get out there and just go fish. Just go enjoy it. Get a feel for it. Um, 'cause I mean, fishing may not be for everybody. 'cause I know it's time consuming. There's like some days where you're just sitting there and you're not catching anything, which is fine, but at the same time, it's, you're getting out there mm-hmm . You're not staring at a computer screen, you're not, you know, you're not doing, um, you're just, you're engaging in Mother nature, right? Um, it's here for a reason. Uh, like, that's, that's what I like to think. That's my process. Everything happens for a reason, right? And if it isn't here, there's a reason why it isn't here. And fishing is a reason. So I like to use fishing as a stress reliever. It helps me calm down after like a long week of work, I get to just kind of detox myself, kind of just bring it, bring me back down to here instead of like, my stress levels going through the roof. I could do enjoy myself, and then maybe there might be reward. Maybe I might catch a fish. That's my reward. And then it, it'll make me feel good. But at the end of the day, it's just calming. I don't it, I don't know. I, I , you know, everybody's different, but for me it's very calm and it's relaxing.
Speaker 1 (01:29:23):
I love it. All right, man. Last question. We'll get you front free. What's next for you? Flash, bang,
Speaker 2 (01:29:29):
Flash, bang. Ah, . All right. Last question. Uh, let's see.
Speaker 1 (01:29:38):
, it's no scroll. You gotta go right off the cuff, man. . Oh,
Speaker 2 (01:29:44):
Oh, just anything.
Speaker 1 (01:29:49):
Yeah, yeah. What's next man? What's next for you? What's, what's Tyler doing next?
Speaker 2 (01:29:52):
So what I plan on doing next is when my YouTube finally grows, right? It gets to that, that, that fan base, that, that, that, that, that line that it crosses right to go on and I can finally be able to do the things that I want to do right there. There's a lot of people out there that like, oh, cool, I can make all this money, blah, blah, blah. No, that's not, that's not what I'm going towards. That's not how I wanna direct myself. And if anything, I wanna go in the opposite direction. I wanna be able to give people the opportunity to enjoy the fishing. I wanna be able to give back to the community. I wanna be like, okay, cool. I'm gonna use X, Y, and Z front from here. I'm gonna buy this equipment and I'm gonna do raffles here. Um, like Jimmy, here you go from South Carolina, congratulations.
Speaker 2 (01:30:40):
I'm sending you a rod and reel so you can go ahead and enjoy your fishing. You know, I'll pay for the shipping, everything and just do giveaways. I wanna be able to do that. I wanna get back to the community. I wanna spark an interest. That's, that's my, that's how I wanna run my community, is they support me. I wanna give back tenfold. I want you guys to be able to enjoy the finer things in life. I have a trip that's coming up. Cool. I'm gonna do a raffle. Congratulations. You four are coming down to Georgia. We're gonna go do this fishing, we're gonna go off on a boat. We'll film a video, you know, awesome. Just being able to engage with my community on a level where I can actually finance it and, and not come out of their pocket. So I want, I, that's what I wanna work towards.
Speaker 2 (01:31:29):
I wanna be, um, I wanna be that guy, um, which everybody wants to be that guy, but I want to actually act on it and, um, just kind of build that name of what Gold River fishing can be. And I wanna be known as the, Hey, he's a giver, not a taker. He's going to treat you. He, he, he's going to like, like I, I want to see all my viewers as like brothers, sisters, family members. I want to treat them as family. If you're following me, you're backing me. Um, you're, you're supporting me. That what, what does family do? They support each other. So that's what I'm kind of perceiving my channel as. And if you are doing all these cool stuff, you're liking my videos, you're sharing it, you're following, you're commenting. And maybe you have like a, a question, Hey, how does x, y and ZX, Y, and Z do 1, 2, 3. I will be willing to give you the information and build you up as well. That's what Gold River fishing is all about. And I know in the near future when it does happen, I'm looking forward to doing it because I am itching away to do the first giveaway. I wonder who it's gonna be.
Speaker 1 (01:32:44):
, you're gonna do great things, brother.
Speaker 2 (01:32:47):
I appreciate it. I'm, I'm looking forward to it.
Speaker 1 (01:32:51):
Well, thank you so much for coming on the podcast, telling us your story, letting us know about all the good things you're doing. Um, we got some great stuff to follow and everybody, you know, I hope this has been helpful and I hope it helps you. I really do. So I look forward to talking to you soon, man. Thanks for coming on.
Speaker 2 (01:33:06):
Alright, Mr. Demo, you have a good one.
Speaker 1 (01:33:08):
All right, brother, we'll see you. All right, ladies and gentlemen. There you go. Great episode. I really enjoyed talking with Tyler. I really did. Um, all his socials are gonna be back on the page for Facebook, or I'm sorry, where you saw this. So it'll be on the transistor page. It'll be probably on the YouTube links as well. So you can all link back, go over to his one, his pages, give him a like and a follow. He's gonna have a lot of good things. And as you heard his goal, it's a good one. So be a part of that family. Be a part of that support. Do those good things. You've been listening to finding DMO surf fishing. It is great to be back with you. I look forward to giving you more episodes soon. Until then, hey, stay glorious. Keep doing the good things you're doing. Yeah. 'cause I'm outta here.