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Alright. Here we go. It is the debut of the Rob Staten show here on pucksports dotcom. It's all brought to you by Superior Linen Service. I'm in Seattle, Washington.
Puck:I'm fitting I'm snug into my starter's jacket from when I was, like, 12. It says it's a large, Rob. If you're see watching this on video at pucksports.comor YouTube, It's it's like a small now on me. I'm in Seattle, but Rob, of course, if you don't know Rob I know you know Rob. Rob stayed in Seahawks draft blog.
Puck:Again, his weekly appearance is gonna be brought to you by Superior Linen Service, family owned and operated since 1926. They provide the highest quality of products and service to the greater Puget Sound area. Get a free quote today at supplinen.com or give them a call at 253-383-2636. Check out Rob's work at ceoxdraftblog.com. His YouTube and Twitter page at Rob Staten.
Puck:Rob, you you tell our listeners, who are listening now watching, you you got a cocktail on your hand. Where are you doing the show from right now?
Rob:So I'm at the United Arab Emirates. So I'm in, I'm about 40 minutes away from Dubai. It it it's see, in England, pork, we don't have anywhere we can go that's warm. You know? If you wanna go anywhere that's warm, you wanna get any kind of sun, you have to fly somewhere a long way away.
Rob:So for me, that is, that is Dubai. We've come here a few times, and, kids love it. So they're, they're all talk to me better than a minute because it's about 9 PM. I am on a I've got a scotch and, looking forward to to talking some seahawks with you.
Puck:This is the first time, I think, in Seattle media history that we have someone doing a show from Dubai. We are breaking the rules today as we record this, and you are in Dubai. Okay. So I don't know if I'll ever get to Dubai. I may get there.
Puck:I kinda wanna get there. It looks interesting. What is it like? I have this notion what of what Dubai is, but what is it? You guys vacation there?
Puck:So tell me about it.
Rob:So, the first of all, the airport's amazing, and it kinda sets the tone for everything that you're gonna see. Like, everything's really modern. They really do try to create a a a good impression over here. Dubai, the main city, has got the the tallest building in the world, and they've got, like, a whole bunch of skyscrapers that have come up. The rest of it is pretty much desert.
Rob:You know, when you're driving through so we've driven to a place called Ras Ras Al Khaimah. And as you're sort of driving down the the main roads, there's just camels everywhere, you know, on the side of the road. It's got, like, camel farms everywhere, and then you sort of we're in this, like, man made island. It's like a big loop that comes, you know, off the of the side of the United Arab Arab Arab Emirates, but they just built this island, and then they put, like, these different resorts on it. So, I'm on a man made island slash beach.
Rob:We're about 20, 30 minutes away from one of the, you know, the liveliest. I think it's actually the most it's the most highly rated place to visit in the world, these days, like Dubai, because you can pretty much do anything here. You can go skiing here. They've got, like, a huge indoor ski center.
Puck:So Wait a minute. Like like, they've had fake snow indoors
Rob:where you
Puck:can go skiing?
Rob:Yeah. Yeah. They've got, like, the biggest one in the world or something, and then they've got a huge mall. And they're actually they've got all of the the touristy things you'd wanna do. But, really, you know, for me, a trip like this, Pulk, is to come and dump the kids at the kids club, get one of these.
Rob:It just keeps freaking so much. Sit sit with my wife and just chill out for, for a week.
Puck:Okay. I feel I feel guilty you're on you're on, and it gets not vacation. And this is the thing I wanna steal from you, you Brits, you Europeans. It just sounds so much better when you say you're on holiday. Yeah.
Puck:It just does, doesn't it? It's I'm on holiday rather than I'm by on vacation. I wish they could steal that from you.
Rob:Vacation sounds a little bit formal for me. Like, yeah, we're going on a holiday. Yeah. Yeah. It just sounds great, and, you know, you can sing the, the Madonna song as well while you're doing it, so it's great.
Puck:Alright. Dubai, Rob. That's where Rob is right now. He's in Dubai doing, the first Rob Staten show here on pucksports.com. Again, you can watch it on YouTube.
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Puck:Visit them atsupplinen.com. Give them a call at 253-383-2636. So you're getting a little r and r in Dubai because coming up is probably like your Christmas. You got the NFL draft is coming up on April 25th. You get knee deep into this draft stuff.
Puck:What, do you look forward to the draft more than the actual season?
Rob:No. I I mean, I still think that football is essentially at the end of the day what you know, it's all building towards. You know, you wanna watch that first game of the season. That's probably the most exciting thing because you kinda start the year. How is this gonna play out?
Rob:You know, you never quite know how a season's gonna unfold. So I think sort of opening weekend of the season's probably the most exciting thing, especially when you've got a team that's good and that can contend. But the draft's just it's just something a bit special. We don't have anything like this over here. You know, all of our sport over in England, the best teams, the biggest teams just dominate, you know, youth sports.
Rob:We don't have college soccer or college cricket, for example. You know, everybody just sort of when the age of, like, 7, 8, 9, 10, get signed up to play for Manchester United or Chelsea or whatever, and that's it. You never see them until they, you know, ultimately play for for the top teams in world football. You know? So to have something like a college football structure and then to see those players playing in front of, like, you know, 50, 60, 70000, 100,000 people, you know, and then to to go to the NFL is just really unique.
Rob:So I find it really I just find the whole process really fascinating, but there is something a bit special about draft date. And this is the best time put. You know, when you've kinda got the last 3 weeks where you what's gonna happen? What are the Seahawks gonna do? When it's all done, it's kinda like when Christmas ends.
Rob:It's like, wow. Is that oh, that's all. That's it. You're gonna pack everything away in a couple of days and wait till next year. So it
Puck:just it just ended properly. Yeah. This year is so exciting. Right, Rob? Because it's brand new.
Puck:You know, you've got I mean, of course, you got John and you got his whole crew that's still running the whole thing, but you got a brand new coach, a brand new coaching snout, a brand new philosophy. Now we get to know. There's always been this dynamic when it's come to John Schneider and Pete Carroll. Pete Carroll, of course, had the final say on on things. He was the president of football operations.
Puck:Now that's the title that Schneider have. So when we we've never known the answer to this, but when it came down to the decision in the draft, were they in lock step together on these decisions, or was there instances where, let's say, Pete Carroll over overrode, you know, a John Schneider We're we're gonna find out now maybe a little bit more into the thinking of John Schneider at this draft.
Rob:Yeah. We definitely are. And it's fascinating to see how maybe this first draft puck is gonna shape the identity of Mike McDonald's team in in Seattle. You know, what is what are they gonna try and build? You know, are they gonna try and build an amazing defense for this defensive minded head coach?
Rob:Are they gonna try and create an offensive juggernaut, you know, by really sort of building around that offensive line and eventually making a bold splash in a quarterback? You know, how is this gonna look? And, you know, all of those options seem to be on the table for this draft as well. You know? It's sort of foregone conclusion what they're gonna do with that first pick.
Rob:So I think we're gonna learn a lot in this first draft. We'll I think we're already sort of learning little things with what Jon Steinhardt has been saying over the last few weeks and, you know, the way that he's viewed maybe Geno Smith, the way these talks about, you know, wouldn't be on the team if the old coaching staff were here. It does seem, you know, a lot like he is he is doing things differently, and, it's fascinating. I can't wait to see what they're gonna do in this draft.
Puck:Okay. So let's, let's get to that right now, and then and then we'll circle back. So I wanna get to the off season moves, what they've done, because it was a kinda typical with these guys. It was slow. It was a slow burn, then there was a and there was a a bunch of frequent moves and and kinda moves kinda coming in every day.
Puck:Up at seox draft blog right now, seox draft blog.com, which, of course, Rob writes for. It's terrific content. It's unbelievable. Check out his YouTube page. Rob Staten on YouTube, social media, Rob Staten, but seoxdraftblog.com.
Puck:This guy, I don't know how he does it. He is pumping out so much damn content left and right, and it is it's unreal. And he's this is a side gig to a to a degree, but he's got a whole other job that he works, for BBC. But, in their latest one, the the Seahawks defensive line, there's been mock drafts that have had an Oregon Guard there. Dane Bruggler's had that.
Puck:Offensive line, defensive line. I think when we look at when we look at this this team and where they wanna go, I think we all can agree in the last few years what's been frustrating about it is they just have not been good upfront. And they get pushed around, They can't protect. They can't really run block. Defensive line's a problem.
Puck:Your latest one, should the Seahawks go have a defensive line in the first round? Talk to me through what you wrote there at seoxstrapblog.com. Why does it make sense to go along those lines on the defensive line?
Rob:I just think it's a a discussion worth having because to me, Pocahont, I don't know how you feel about this. I think it looks pretty obvious that they're gonna go offensive line. Like, all of their moves so far, paying Leonard Williams, bringing in Jonathan Hankins, resigning Daryl Taylor, you know, filling out the linebacker spots, filling out the safety spots. It all seems to to suggest that they're saving the offensive line, which has had very little attention just like a $3,000,000 contract for George Phan and a backup guard from the Rams coming in. It seems like they've set everything up with the draft to go offensive line.
Rob:So that would make some sense. I don't think anyone would be getting the pitchforks and the torches out if the Seahawks spend their 1st pick on an offensive line or even go offensive line, offensive line with their first two picks. But how should they build this team? You know, is is the pathway to being a contender simply having the most rounded balanced roster that you can have investing a bit in your offensive line, investing a bit in your defensive line, spending a little money bit of money at linebacker, spending a little bit of money here received or whatever? Or is it to really attack one side of the ball and go, we wanna make a defensive line that can terrify opponents in the way that the 40 niners who, by the way, have spent how many first round picks did they spend in a row?
Rob:It was Arik Armstead, DeForest Buckner. It was Nick Bose. It was Solomon Thomas. It was Jevon Kinlaw. You know, it was like every single year they were spending a 1st round pick on defensive line.
Rob:And lo and behold, not all of those picks worked out, but they created this formidable d line, this great pass rush, which caused the Seahawks and other teams so many problems and was the foundation for them becoming a contender along with Shanahan's offense. So what is best for the Seahawks? Is it just to fill that hole at the offensive line and feel okay we've invested in that now? Or should they be prepared to maybe build this thing a little bit slower, embrace that they're not necessarily gonna be a superb team this year? And perhaps the number one priority should be, maybe we can build a fantastic defensive line, and that can be the identity under Mike McDonald.
Rob:I'm interested to know what people think about that possibility and what you want to think about it because I think a lot of people look at the o line and think they've gotta go there.
Puck:You you know, I I just look at it as as whatever direction they wanna go in, I think those are the first two things I want to to address. I just want to address whether it's the offensive line first or we go defensive line. But I just think ultimately that needs to be addressed, both of them. I mean, it's just been such a a problem for them for so many years, and why they haven't been able to kinda take that next step is because they don't have somebody in the middle. They don't have somebody on the outside that wins 1 on 1.
Puck:They don't have a a boast. I mean, not many teams do. Not all that seems to have that, but they don't have a guy who can not scheme you up, just 1 on 1 beat your ass. And then on the offensive line, I mean, they've been looking for a center since they traded Max Under to New Orleans, and it's just been a revolving door. You know, we it's funny.
Puck:You probably get this when you talk football over there or or any sport. Right? We we get caught on these cliches with with all sports. I really think when it comes to football, it's I know it's a cliche, but if you cannot win the line of scrimmage and cannot win the trenches, you're just not gonna win. You're not gonna win consistently.
Puck:Sure. Yeah. You can be flashing on the outside and all that. I want them. I wanted it last year.
Puck:I was glad with when they did a couple years ago with Kross and Lucas. I wanna invest as much resources that they possibly can to upgrade both sides. But I will kinda fall more in line with you. Defensive side on the d line has been an issue for a long time. I mean, it you know, gone are the days where you don't have Michael Bennett, Cliff Averill, and anybody up that could, you know, provide anything in the middle for you.
Puck:Brandon Meibane, I mean, we're going way, way, way back where they just haven't had any of that kind of talent. And so that's what I think last year, what made it so appealing, for Jalen Carter, and then they decided to pass on Jalen Carter for for whatever reason. Not like they made a mistake with Witherspoon, but, you know, they have that guy that would have fit perfectly, but they they chose to, you know, probably this stuff on the off the field that was too much for them. But, yeah, I I would like to see it. I think they've I don't know.
Puck:What do you think? I think they've got pieces on, you know, on the outside. I mean, I think linebackers are gonna still be a work in progress, and the secondary's okay. But defensive line, if they can sure that up, don't you think it makes the guys in the back end better?
Rob:It absolutely does. I think what a lot of this is gonna come down to is what is the actual truth on Abe Lucas' knee? If he if they don't think he can come back, you're now looking at, well, a a a real void at left guard, a major question mark at center, bit of a question mark at right guard, and then again, a huge void at right tackle. And then that kinda makes your mind up. And this is a great draft for right tackles.
Rob:You almost have to take 1. You have to invest in that line because, otherwise, how are you gonna be able to function as an offense with the offensive line that they've got? And if they're just gonna fill it in with mid round picks that are rookies, it I I don't think that's gonna work for 2024. And this whole new era on the McDonald and Ryan Crub and offense may may fall apart in year 1 because they haven't got the chops up front on the o line. But if they are somewhat confident that Lucas can come back and with Fanta's insurance, it's a little bit easier.
Rob:It's more justifiable to say, okay. We'll we'll go and get one of the guards from Michigan, for example. Because they just beat everybody up last year. Right. It's a bit more understandable to do that.
Rob:And then to say, okay. Now let's have a look at that offensive line. Jaren Reid's got one more year in his contract. Jonathan Hankins is not gonna be a long term victory. It's gonna be a 1 year fit a deal to to play in Seattle.
Rob:You've really only got Leonard Williams for 3 years. Kam Young's on a rookie contract. There's not a lot else there in terms of long term building. And I just think increasingly as time has gone on, put I completely agree with you that the trenches and your quarterback are really the deciding factor as to whether or not you're a contender. But you have what you have to be able to get after the opponent's quarterback.
Rob:In the big games, you have gotta be disruptive. There is nothing more terrifying aside from having to play someone like Mahomes like the Niners did in the Super Bowl late in the game, thinking he's gonna win this and there's nothing we can do. The only other thing is going into somebody else's backyard in a road game and thinking that pass rush is gonna eat us alive. And people come to Seattle and have an easy time at the moment. If you have a fantastic pass rush with that crowd noise revved up again under a new coach, that will win you a lot of games of football.
Puck:And that's part of the problem, don't you think, Rob? I mean, you know, the last year and I you know, maybe even the year before, but especially last year, there's just no, like there's no passion inside that building. I mean, that that building has passion. It's not because of the offense. No.
Puck:And and and really no fan base is like that. A fan base gets after it because of how the defense performs. And part of the reason because everyone's has this story. Wow. No no one's going to the games anymore.
Puck:There's not enough passion for the Seahawks fan base. I think they've lost their way. Oh, it's because the defense has lost their way, and the defense was the one that inspired that fan base, to, you know, to make all that noise to get after, to be a difference maker. Because you're right. Last year, too easy to come in here now.
Puck:It's just too easy to come in here and and push people around. Look at look at the Steelers. Like, that was embarrassing last year. That was one of the most embarrassing games that, that it probably in the Pete Carroll era, because that team wasn't that team wasn't better than you. That team shouldn't have come in there with that quarterback and done that to you, and they did.
Puck:And they had their way, and it was, I mean, it was that that was probably the worst game I've ever seen Carroll and this regime coach and play and execute.
Rob:Yeah. They were soft. They were bullied. I went to the Thanksgiving game against the 40 niners, and there was a lot of niners fans there. Don't get me wrong.
Rob:But the atmosphere, the the crowd noise was amped up at kickoff. It took one drive. The niners just marched straight down the field. It was too easy. The guy sat next to me just turns me, I've never spoken to him in my life.
Rob:And he just goes, here we go. And and that's exactly and and it was that's exactly how it felt. Everybody felt deflated. It was freezing cold. I've traveled 5,000 miles to watch this thing, and I'm thinking at halftime, I could just go back to the hotel and have one of these scotches.
Rob:Like like, I don't need to be here. Like, I'm gonna be Apple Cup, you know, tomorrow or or Saturday. I don't need to be here for this. Yeah. So that is how it felt, and that's how it's felt for a long time in these home games.
Rob:The home record stinks. You know? And the best way to get that back, aside from simply winning football games, is to have a defense that that brings the crowd into it and and keeps the Seahawks in games and make sure that they're the ones bullying opponents, not letting the Steelers like you say with Mason Rudolph coming in and running it down your throat.
Puck:Okay. Who do you like there then? They they at 16, who who do you like for the Seahawks in the first run? Give give us a couple players when you've looked at the the draft and all the post combine stuff. Who are a few players that could be available there on the defensive line that you would like and would be a good fit for Seattle?
Rob:Well, the one that everybody talks about is Byron Murphy at Texas, and, you know, you just have to look at the guy. He's he's got very limited body fat, but he's £300, which is always a good sign, I think, with the defensive tackle. He's got a huge you know, without wanting to be too vulgar, are some thighs. You know, there is
Puck:There's no rules now. We could say I we we could say wanker. We could say whatever we want now. Yeah. He's got a huge ass.
Rob:Yeah. He has. It's it but it that's what kinda what that kinda trunk is what you wanna see from a defensive tackle. He does this amazing thing, Puk, where I've never seen a player do this before, but he goes down on one knee to leverage against defensive lineman. And then he that uncoils like a cobra, explodes through contact.
Rob:He disengages. He gets down the line from that starting position of of, you know, anchoring on one knee. He is more disruptive than a game record in Texas, and he did have the benefit of playing alongside. I don't know if you've seen this guy. This £380 beast is to Andre Swett who played alongside him.
Rob:But just the thought of him and Leonard Williams with, you know, Jarrod Reid, Jonathan Hankins, Cam Young anchoring from those tackle, it it's enticing. It sort of is it is interesting. There were other players. You know? There's this Darius Robinson guy who could I think he's very similar to Eric Armstead who can play inside out, who's just an absolute monster.
Rob:You know, I interviewed one of his former teammates who said he taught him how to play football. High character guy. You know, I was listening to Chris Long earlier today talking about him saying he's an absolute beast. This is Darius Robinson who was at Missouri. There are other guys.
Rob:You know, Braden Fisk at Florida State just had one of the best combined performances that you will ever see. He's got a few injury concerns, and that might knock his stock down a little bit. But in terms of testing, in terms of work rate, he plays every single snap like it's his last. We've seen Mike McDonald loves to stunt guys inside, you know, from defensive end and then have his defensive tackles run around the line and then get to the quarterback. There's plenty of evidence of Braden Fist doing that on tape.
Rob:So, you know, there are there are plenty of defensive linemen in that sort of, I would say, 16 to 50 range that you could target to come in and have a big impact. There's edge rushers as well. Chop Robinson. You know, I would recommend anybody who's listening to this, go and check out Chop Robinson's tape because it's whenever you make a comparison like this, you always have to be careful. But there are little flashes of Micah Parsons within Chopped Robinson.
Rob:His get off is unbelievable. Same with Braden Fisk. His get off is unbelievable. The way he bends the edge is exactly like my Micah Parsons, tremendous athlete. There's just something there, and then there's other edge rushes as well.
Rob:Jarrad Verst may well be there at 60. Latu from UCLA used to be Washington might be there at 60. Some very interesting defensive linemen. And if you wanna go in that direction and you wanna build your identity that way, the Seahawks will have a chance to do that. But, you know, granted, there are also some fantastic offensive linemen that are in this
Puck:draft as well. I wish somebody at at some point in my life will describe Puckett as, god, he's got a real good good off. Get off. You know what I mean? I just really would.
Puck:It just you know, it rather
Rob:I wish someone would say that I had a a great ass and thighs.
Puck:Alright. Now I'm gonna ask you the tough question though. Okay? We just talked about defensive line here, defensive players, offensive players. If Michael Pinnick is there at 16, what do you think they would do?
Puck:Well, he might be there. Right? And what do you want them to do?
Rob:I I want the Seahawks to draft a quarterback. You know? I want them to I want John Schneider to see somebody who he truly believes can be the answer to this franchise. I do have some faith in Schneider as a quarterback evaluator. I do believe in talk about Patrick Mahomes because that was reported seconds after he was drafted by Kansas City by the NFL Network or ESPN or whoever it which would rapport Shefter, whoever it was, said the silks would have drafted him even with Russell Wilson if he lasted to their pick.
Rob:That was immediate. That was long before we knew Mahomes was gonna be Mahomes and win 3 Super Bowls. He wanted to trade Russell Wilson away in his peak for the 1st overall pick in 2018 to draft Josh Allen. Josh Allen's a pretty good quarterback. He's drafted Russell Wilson.
Rob:I trust the guy's assessment of quarterbacks. I'd I'd grant him as a little bit of picking and choosing here because he also traded for Charley Whitehurst and seemed to love Drulock.
Puck:Hey. Hey. He won a playoff game. Alright? Touchdown Jesus won a playoff
Rob:game. And fantastic hair that I'm very jealous of. You. But but I trust John Schneider. So if he sees somebody in this draft and he says that that's the guy, I'm all in on that.
Rob:I'm I'm very happy to see that. The the have gotta draft the quarterback. This year, next year, they have gotta draft a quarterback. I am bored of hearing John Schneider say every single year, you know, Ron Wolf was speaking to me, and he was teasing me about never drafting quarterbacks, and it's 2 in 14 years. Enough.
Rob:You've gotta start drafting quarterbacks, you know, and you've gotta start investing in that position. If he is there at 16, I think that he could easily be a very strong consideration because of Ryan Grub's connection there. I have to believe that Ryan Grub likes Michael Pennicks, that we'll feel he's a scheme fit. The talk on the street is they wanna attack every single blade of grass. Michael Pemex will do that.
Rob:Is he a perfect player thrown underneath in the short game? No. But is he gonna throw 40 yard led passes in between 2 defenders to all angles of the football field? Yes. Is he gonna force the ball to DK Metcalfe, which I think John Schneider wants to do?
Rob:Yes. Because he did that to Roma Duinze. He did he didn't turn down one single one v one with Roma Duinze last year. So I think they would seriously consider him. I know somebody, at Washington at the University of Washington who is convinced that Pemex is gonna come off the board by the 13th pick of the latest.
Rob:Mhmm. He's come he's and he has been convinced throughout. And if you've detected in the media, there's been a bit of a subtle shift in the last few days with people saying, Chris Simms, he's a top 20 pick, and, Kurt Warner's saying he's gonna be a high pick. And then other people saying he's gonna go very, very early, and people are now souring a little bit on something like Drake May, for example. So I think there's a good, good chance that one of these quarterback media teams are gonna take him off the ball before 16, and he won't be there.
Rob:But if he is, I think there's at least a chance that he could be Seattle's pick.
Puck:Okay. So then what do we again, Rob's stating with us, so you can check out his blog, seox draftblog.com, his weekly appearance here at pucksports.com, all brought to you by Superior Linen Service, family owned and operated since 1926. They provide the highest quality of products and service to the greater Puget Sound area. Get a free quote today. Supplinen.com.
Puck:Give him a call. 253-383-2636. What do you make of the acquisition, the trade of Sam Howe? I mean, I I liked it on the service. I liked what he what he did here in Seattle.
Puck:Now it was against that defense. I think there's a lot to like, with with what Sam Howe can can bring, but the acquisition of Howe, Did they tip their hand that they won't go quarterback? Or, hey, we can still draft the guy. But first and foremost, what what did you make of the trade to acquire him?
Rob:I think it screams we don't believe that the quarterbacks that we like are gonna be available to us. And we cannot afford to go into this draft with just Geno Smith and either nobody or some horrible veteran quarterback who is you wouldn't wanna put him in the game. I think they wanted to invest in a young quarterback who they can develop, who could, if he needed to play a couple of games as Drew Lock had to do last season. Now Geno Smith is not a young player, but if he comes in, put that he's gonna have to come in and give the silks a chance to win a football game. And I think they they couldn't risk the quarterback that they like being there.
Rob:So I think that's why they went after somehow. However, if they truly believe in one of these quarterbacks, one of these top quarterbacks in this draft, I don't think the Sam Howell pick precludes them from taking that guy as well. I mean, look. This is the team that spent in 2012 a lot of money, not a lot of money today, obviously, but 12 years ago it was a Matt Flynn retained Tavares Jackson, still drafted Russell Wilson and and and knew they wanted Russell Wilson, by the way, even when they signed Matt Flynn. And then gave Russell Wilson a job and just ate all of the money that that Matt Flynn was being paid.
Rob:So I don't think Geno Smith's contract is that big that a similar situation can happen. I think what's gonna happen, though, is all the quarterbacks they like are gonna be off the board, and that's why they've traded for somehow.
Puck:Again, Rob, stating if you're watching or or or and you're listening, he's he's dialing us up from Dubai on a family vacation, first time in Seattle media history. We have had a guest on from Dubai. I get we are breaking news today, and we are breaking show of record here at pucksports.com. Do you do you think there's a chance how shines and unseats Geno Smith, or this is Geno Smith for 17 games next season?
Rob:I think Geno Smith will be the starter. I just the thing about Samahoul is if you watch a highlights tape of Samahoul put, you can convince yourself that this is a guy. But then I watched every game that he played at North Carolina and gave him a 4th round great, and and he went in the 5th round. And when you actually look a little thing, like, 21 interceptions is not gonna get done in the NFL. Mhmm.
Rob:However, you can and you can look people can say, the defensive line didn't do this or this the the 7 of them were were unfortunate or whatever and stuff like that. 21 picks is 21 picks. And if you look at his grade, it was in the same ballpark as Zach Wilson last year. So it he's shown something, but he's also shown stuff that needs to be worked on. He's not the most charismatic guy to listen to.
Rob:He he's not somebody who's gonna necessarily walk in that locker room and blow everybody away. And I think that for that reason, a a lot of the guys who maybe have already got lasting relationships with Geno Smith, it will make it hard to transition away from Geno Smith unless somehow absolutely blows over his socks off in training camp or Geno Smith just absolutely has a horrendous start to the season. So I think Geno Smith will be the quarterback, We'll see how it goes. We'll see we'll see what they do. I I I think they're gonna I think John Schneider is on a mission to get a quarterback for the long term in this for for this franchise, and that could be in this draft.
Rob:If not, then I I know as soon as this draft finishes, kinda what I'm gonna be doing over the summer, and it's gonna be watching quarterbacks because he he's gonna he's gonna be on that until he
Puck:addresses it. Okay. I I I I wanna rapid fire through some stuff. You're on vacation. I don't wanna keep it too long from your wife and and your more importantly, I don't wanna keep it from your scotch.
Puck:You drink as much of that as you possibly can during this. In fact, I think every episode now moving forward, and maybe we'll in addition to superior linen service, we get you a Scotch endorsement. Is that a do you know what brand that is? We can we can get you I'm gonna send you a bottle of your favorite Scotch. And I think every time that we do this, it'd probably be harder for me to enjoy it with you because it's gonna be in the morning time for me.
Puck:But it's not like I haven't had a morning drink in my lifetime. Offseason moves. Let let's try Leonard Williams, on board with that? You liked it?
Rob:Yeah. Happy with it. You know, it's a lot of money, isn't it, Paul? It's a lot of money. He's he's gotta deliver for that.
Rob:And but it let's put it this way. If you said, could do you want Leonard Williams for 21,000,000, or do you want Damian Lewis for 13? I'll take Leonard Williams for 21.
Puck:Okay. Yeah. I I'm I'm indifferent on it. There was nothing that he he blew me away with last year, but I kinda understood what the situation they were in. I hope it he has a better season than he had last year.
Puck:Wasn't like he was terrible. I just didn't know and think it was or, you know, he was an overwhelming success, I I think, a year ago. George Fant, I mean, that seems like an insurance policy probably for Abe Lucas?
Rob:Yeah. His his cap hits, I think, is just over $3,000,000, $3,400,000. So that that's what you'd expect to pay for an insurance tackle who can if he needs to play a bit of left tackle, he can do it. If he needs to play right tackle, he can do it. He can probably slot in at guard as well.
Rob:I think that's a really good signing. I think it's a really intelligent signing for somebody who can play multiple roles. And if George Fanate has to play 3 games in a row next season, I don't think anybody's gonna panic about that.
Puck:The linebackers, they they get Dodson from the Bills. They get Jerome Baker from the Dolphins. These guys are gonna now gonna replace what you lost in Bobby Wagner going to Washington and then Jordan Brooks going, to Miami. Short deals, 1 year deal, so not a lot of a commitment to them. But what do you think of those two signings there of Dodson and Baker?
Rob:Yeah. I've got a friend who used to work at the BBC. He was obsessed with the Dolphins. So I reached out to him and says, what's Jerome Baker like? And he he said, do you know what?
Rob:He's a really good player. He's not gonna have, like, 10 pick sixes next season. He's not necessarily gonna have 8 sacks, but you will you will never have to worry about him. And I thought that's good enough for me. That's kinda what the Seahawks need in that position.
Rob:And then with Dodson, he's intriguing, isn't he? Because it was, like, 10 games he started last year, and he was, like, the number one linebacker. So look look at Mike McDonald. Mike McDonald turned Patrick Queen into 1 of like, an epic bust into a guy who, like, half the Seahawks fan base was desperate for them to sign in free agency. So, I think that if he can do that with Patrick Queen, he's obviously had a huge impact on a very talented player, Ropon Smith as well.
Rob:Let's see what he can do with these 2 guys. They're probably gonna drop the line back at some point for some depth as well. So intriguing and interesting to see how they get on.
Puck:I know that Dolphins fan. Okay? You you tell him hello for me. I met him back at the US Open.
Rob:When is it Oh, you know Simon.
Puck:I know Simon. Oh, yeah. It was you know why I went up to introduce myself to to Simon Clancy who who were talking about BBC is those microphones. So they their booth when we were at Chambers Bay for the US Open was right next to where we were broadcasting the radio show. And I would always look over there and those what do you call the microphones?
Puck:What do they call?
Rob:We we have, like, a we call it a windshield.
Puck:The windshield. But you but for people who don't they've never seen it, in England or at the BBC, they hold the microphone. It's it's not like
Rob:like me. A lip mic.
Puck:Yeah. Lip mic.
Rob:Like, I
Puck:have it on a stand, but he was holding the lip mic, like, if remember Ted Lasso. Alright? If you watch Ted Lasso when the, the the soccer commentator, Arlo White. Every time they would show right. It's Arlo White.
Puck:Isn't that who it is?
Rob:Yeah. Yeah. It's Arlo White.
Puck:They would show Arlo, and he's holding up the the microphone, like, which is, like, touching his lips.
Rob:Oh, yeah. I mean, that's what I use. When I'm when I'm, calling something about I have it, and it has, like, a little bit that you you literally place it on your top lip, and you speak into it.
Puck:Yeah. So he had that, and he was and I'm like, what in god's name is that thing?
Rob:So I Do you guys know Top Fellows?
Puck:No. We don't know. No. I that was the first time I've ever saw it. So I went and just started talking to him about it, and then, you know, he's a charismatic guy.
Puck:We were b s ing and he's a huge, you know, soccer fan, so we ended up getting tickets to the Sounders game and all that. He was he was a blast. It was a blast being next to him for for that entire week, and then we just remained in contact. So I know who you're talking about. Right when you said but BDC Dolphins fan, I know exactly what we're talking about.
Puck:Noah, let's start in on this one. Noah fan. What did you think Noah fan? 2 years, 21,000,000.
Rob:Comfortable with it. It's it's not a great tight end draft. I wouldn't wanna go into the new season banking on a rookie from this draft class to to to bail them out. I think no offense got some untapped potential. You know, he's a former 10, top 20 pick.
Rob:I think he's had the misfortune of having the Vic Fangio slash drew lock time in in Denver, and then with the greatest respect, the Shane Waldron and Pete Carroll time in Seattle. And now let's see what he can do with Ryan Grub in this offense that I think you're gonna find ways to feature him in the passing game. He seems to be like somebody who could be really dynamic in the passing game, and we just haven't had the offensive coordinator to get that out of him so far. So I think that could actually be I know a lot of people have said, spend that money on the offensive line instead. I think that could be a really value signing compared to, like, what TJ Hawkinson got paid in Minnesota.
Puck:I I agree with you. I I like Noah Fant a lot, and I I'm really, really intrigued what Noah Fant can do in Ryan Grub's offense. I can't believe we've gone 30 minutes, and I I didn't even write I wrote it down on my notes somewhere, but then I lost it. Okay. What do you make?
Puck:Last thing, and then I promise I'll let you go. What do you make of them with your shit? He's shaking his head if you're just listening to this. What do you make of this flirtation, of this idea of bringing Jamal Adams back?
Rob:No. Sure say no. Let this put I'm I'm worried about this. This worries me for a number of reasons because, look, I've got a lot of respect for John Schneider. This is the guy I always feel like you have to you have to mention this.
Rob:This was the guy that built the Super Bowl team with Pete Carroll, so he deserves his props for that. But I think John's got an ego, and I'm a little bit worried that John is looking at this Jamal Jamaal Adams trade as the worst thing he's ever done as a GM. And has probably said to Mike McDonald, hey, do you think you could still get something out of this guy? And Mike McDonald's kinda like, well, he's the new coach, and he wants to impress the new boss. He's like, yeah.
Rob:Do you know what I could get? Listen, I can get him in here and, you know, I'm a coach. I can just give me anybody. I'll turn them into a player. And then and they've maybe sort of convinced themselves that maybe there's a way to salvage this thing.
Rob:Like, if Jamal Adams came back and had a great year, you know, John could turn around and go, see, the trade wasn't a bad trade. It was just unlucky or we just needed this coach or whatever. And my McDonald's saying he loves Jamal Adams all of a sudden, and I wanted to just when I heard Mike McDonald say that he loved Jamal Adams, I just wanted to say back to him, yeah. Well, about 80% of your fans don't love Jamal Adams, Mike. You know, we are sick to the back teeth of this guy.
Rob:I don't wanna see him play for the Seahawks again. What I've after what he did with that fiasco over the reporter and calling out his the reporter's wife, it made me feel just angry enough to want to see him embarrassed on the field in the next game against the Niners, and I was relieved when they gave him the shepherd's crook afterwards, and he didn't play again after that. Yeah. I don't wanna see him in a silks jersey again. I don't think that's the only thing.
Rob:It's it's not like that's an isolated instance. I bet I bet if you knew behind the scenes, there was probably a couple of other things that that if people Jamal Adams isn't is not the most positive influence. I bet I bet anything. If you knew a couple of things behind the scenes that that that's the case. I don't wanna see him back in Seattle.
Rob:Draw a line under it. It's a new era. Time to move on from all of that. It's not exactly like other teams are hammering down the door to get him. Just let him go.
Rob:Let it go.
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