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Sean talks with Beverly, MA locals
Welcome to the Sharing Wheel podcast. Today, we have Rob Chapman, executive director of BevCam.
Speaker 2:That's me.
Speaker 1:Welcome, Rob.
Speaker 2:Thank you.
Speaker 1:And thanks for coming on.
Speaker 2:Absolutely.
Speaker 1:Appreciate it. And, Rob, UVM grad graduate?
Speaker 2:Yes. Do I have to say what year?
Speaker 1:Yes. Just just to gauge when I was, I was at Goddard down the road.
Speaker 2:Well, actually, I I left three credits short. So I actually left on my ninth semester Okay. And I hitchhiked across country. And then I came back and actually got the three credits I needed for my degree in March of nineteen eighty eight. But I should have gotten in, like,
Speaker 1:spring of eighty six. Okay. Now at Godard, they would have given me credit for hitchhiking across
Speaker 3:the Yeah.
Speaker 2:The country. I went to the wrong school.
Speaker 1:I actually just between you and I. Okay. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Don't we're not playing anything.
Speaker 1:I got credit for touring with the grateful dead. And I, I I was writing about, like, the mythology of the dead and, splicing in, like, Joseph Campbell Yep. And, and some other,
Speaker 2:card back and whatnot. And I said I need to get the three credits. Yeah. And it was like psych I mean, I'd fulfilled every other requirement except for the number of credits.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So they I they gave me credit by exam. I think it was in psych one. I don't think I passed it. I think they just gave it to me, you know, the three credits, like, you know, here's your degree one.
Speaker 3:Nice.
Speaker 1:Now, coming out of UVM, you started up a a live comedy, show on public access media? Or
Speaker 2:You know, I I after school, after UVM, I did, you know, kinda pick up some odd jobs. I'd continued working for, like, the stagehand in Burlington, Vermont. Started working for electrician. And then I I actually started a theater company. My degree is in theater.
Speaker 2:And so we were doing a a small theater company called Garage Theater in the early nineties. And that transformed into a a comedy variety show that we found out about public access television. So we were like, hey, this would be kinda fun. Natural progression. Yeah.
Speaker 2:So we decided to do a live comedy variety show, every Tuesday night at 10PM. So we could be a little bit risque or something.
Speaker 3:Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2:But it was pretty ambitious. We were, like, doing, roll and tape. We were doing, in interviews. We had live music bands and stuff like that. Yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So I actually, learned quite a lot in those few years doing matter of opinion. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, it was a, you know, a difference.
Speaker 2:And I actually enjoyed it very much. I mean, I didn't get in front of the camera very much. I was basically in the booth. Yeah. And that's when I actually found out that there was a job opening.
Speaker 2:So I applied for the production, technician then at the time for the public access station. It was like, I could really and it sort of appealed to my, directing sense in that I had more control in video. Mhmm. Actors have a lot of control when they're on stage. They can do nuances and change things.
Speaker 2:You can't do anything if you're a director.
Speaker 1:Mhmm.
Speaker 2:But as a, you know, as a director of a video, you can pick the shot, pick the thing, and it just exists. Distribution also helps. You could get into people's living rooms as opposed to having getting them up and coming to the theater and stuff like that.
Speaker 1:Right. Right. Right. Yeah. It's that that sounds like a lot of fun, a live comedy variety show.
Speaker 2:It sure was. Yeah. And, we never had a perfect show. Yeah. It was always some technical mistake Okay.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Yeah. Or something went wrong. And some of them were pretty bad. Like, the musicians couldn't hear themselves, and it was like, we'll never we can't use that audio at all.
Speaker 2:But, at one point, I talked about if, you know, if we did it live to tape, I could correct the mistakes.
Speaker 1:Mhmm.
Speaker 2:And the whole cast was like, no. We love doing the live show. They That's really They were like, no. We Mhmm. Did we like the immediacy.
Speaker 2:Mhmm. We don't mind the occasional mess up or something like that.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Sure. It's like a a rough magic. Yeah. But, you
Speaker 2:know,
Speaker 1:fun. And then you're also involved in, Lost Nation Theater?
Speaker 2:Yeah. Yeah. So, with garage theater in the nineties, I, you know, as I said, my degree is I I did a lot of work at Well Tyler. When I, took over running the access center in Montpelier, which is, in 2011.
Speaker 1:Mhmm.
Speaker 2:I was like, you know, my daughters are getting older. They they had expressed an interest in theater. So and I had known, Kim Bent and, Kathleen, who were the artistic co to artistic directors of Lost Nation in Montpelier. Mhmm. And I said, you know, we've been doing some stuff with Orca Media, which is the access center in Montpelier.
Speaker 2:And I said, you know, if there's anything I can do to help with the company. So they actually said, what about being on the board of directors? So I I was on the board of directors. I didn't wasn't doing a lot of performing or anything like that, but it was just sort of like, you know, learning how incredibly anxious it is to to try to do the quality theater they were doing. And they were actually doing some, you know, equity actors and bringing us some real professional acting, chops to Montpelier to small Montpelier, Vermont.
Speaker 2:It's a town a city of 8,000. So
Speaker 1:Like the size of Beverly.
Speaker 2:Yeah. And there are, spaces in the upstairs of City Hall because there's not really a performing venue
Speaker 3:Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2:In Montpelier. I was just surprised. Like, Barry has the opera house. I think even Goddard had some stuff at the colleges. He was there.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Barn there. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah. That's right. The Barn. I saw a couple shows there. So that's, it was surprising that the capital of Vermont doesn't have a really good performing venue.
Speaker 1:It is it is, surprising. And, now, yeah, it was a city hall art center. Is that where you're at?
Speaker 2:I think that's I think that was to get some money for it, something like that to rename it. And and, I think they paid a dollar rent for, you know, they would have to, you know, when it came into voting, they would have to move all theater stuff out of the way so people could go up and vote. Or, you know, there was a deal set up. But, you know,
Speaker 1:they they do a
Speaker 2:lot with very little. And and it was a a real joy to work within the few years that I was there to try to raise money for them to make sure that they're, remain viable. And it's just really just on the the backs of Kim and Kathleen who really just do everything from raising the money, the grants, to performing, to directing, to producing.
Speaker 1:Yeah. It got, you know, well recognized. Hey. I mean, Vermont magazine, it was best awards Yeah. Have you seen
Speaker 2:a show there? You you were from are they probably running around when you were up there?
Speaker 1:I don't know. I was, yeah, I was there in the, early nineties, late eighties. Do you
Speaker 2:remember the theater?
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:We we used to do garage theater shows there.
Speaker 1:Oh, okay. Alright. We did a
Speaker 2:couple shows. When we bring a show to to Montpelier, we would work with the.
Speaker 1:Okay. Fine. And then, and then or Orkur, access media was near in Montpelier also on Main Street or
Speaker 2:It was.
Speaker 1:And then it moved up
Speaker 2:To Vermont.
Speaker 1:Up to the college. I don't know
Speaker 2:what it is for which college is fine arts.
Speaker 1:Again, we were connected. I graduated. I got my MFA
Speaker 2:in writing there. So, Yeah. At night. At VCFA or was it Vermont College then?
Speaker 1:MFA in writing. Yeah. Vermont College at the time. Then they got bought by someone.
Speaker 2:Yeah. And now that I think the operations are have ceased. I mean, they were doing a a residency program for many years. Yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2:And now they're somewhere in Colorado.
Speaker 1:Oh my gosh. Yeah. And God. Godard also.
Speaker 2:Yep. God. And Godard didn't go away, I think.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Good old good old Vermont. And and you're still very much connected to Vermont. You're heading Family.
Speaker 2:Family. There in Burlington. Yeah. Friends. You know?
Speaker 2:So it's and it's not that far of a drive, so I I'm up there quite
Speaker 1:a lot. And and how, awesome for them to have that involvement in, local access media, also theater. So cool.
Speaker 2:Yeah. It's a, you know, it's a it's a great place to be. I mean, I I I have no regrets moving to the North Shore of, of it's an area that I've looked at and I've really
Speaker 1:The North Shore is nice.
Speaker 2:Yeah. It's really nice. I mean, the people here in Beverly are just as outstanding. Yep. Absolutely.
Speaker 2:So and I like being near the ocean. I I was like, you know, when I applied for the job, I talked a little bit about the fact that I've been in the mountains too long. You know? I guess Lake Champlain is not really the mountains. You know you know the Champlain Valley.
Speaker 2:Yeah. But being near the ocean and, and and accessibility to to Boston to be to to a real city, you know?
Speaker 3:Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Because it's not a
Speaker 1:real city. But Montreal is probably closest to
Speaker 2:It is. I guess. You know? And we we would go up there, but it's you know? You know, I can get a train in to Boston to go to the museum or catch a show or something like that, which is really you know, I do like that culture, and there's a real, music industry here on the North Shore that I you know, it's just not the same as, Vermont.
Speaker 2:I mean, there is.
Speaker 1:Mhmm.
Speaker 2:Obviously, you can listen to only fish so much.
Speaker 1:I used to see that one. Yeah. Back in the well, they originated. Like, some of the guys were from Goddard College.
Speaker 3:Yes. Yeah. Yeah. And I Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1:I was seeing when they used to used to bounce on trampolines Yes. And then in a ballroom in Burlington. Yeah. It was funny.
Speaker 2:Yeah. And Fishman would play as vacuum cleaner cleaner or something like that.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Swing from the rafters or something
Speaker 3:like that.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Vermont has some you know, we've talked before about Red and Poppy Theater. Yep. And, I think there's a clown school in Vermont too. Oh, yeah.
Speaker 1:Circus Circus Circus Circus. Yep. And so so many, like, this very cool New England kinda things that go on in Vermont. Plus, it's chock full of, like, poets and writers.
Speaker 2:Particularly in Montpelier. I was surprised how many authors are in Montpelier. I guess they have the opportunity to live wherever they want. Mhmm. And for some reason, they chose Central Vermont.
Speaker 2:It's not the same as Burlington. Burlington seems to be more younger or college, you know, but when I moved to Montpelier, it was just everybody I met was an author in
Speaker 1:a long
Speaker 3:way Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Or a poet or something like that. That.
Speaker 1:A couple yeah. They have a couple of independent bookstores, I hope, are still there, in Downtown Montpelier.
Speaker 2:Fair Pawn's still there.
Speaker 1:Fair pawn's still there.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Yeah. Nice. Yeah.
Speaker 1:But yeah. And also so you've been involved in public access media for forty years and president of the Vermont Access Network Yep. A member of the Alliance of Community Media for the Northeast Region and also served on the board of directors for the mass access.
Speaker 2:Currently, I am.
Speaker 1:Currently. Yep. So it's amazing, like, you know, you, were involved in a comedy live comedy show. Right? And here we are kinda, you know, talking.
Speaker 1:And I'm and my is that a like, that was, like, your gateway into, community access media, the the comedy? Or did
Speaker 2:That really was. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know, we started doing the the the show, first and Yeah.
Speaker 2:And that's when I was like, oh, you can actually make money or apply for the job. Yeah. Yeah. You know, I was just doing a production technician, but it was the first time I'd had, like, a full time job. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Got benefits. At the time, I was working for the cable company. The the cable company ran the access center, so I was an employee of Adelphia Cable.
Speaker 1:Okay. So that's how you kind of came familiar with them?
Speaker 2:Or Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1:And then,
Speaker 2:Comcast bought Adelphia in the February. But I I think by that time, I I had taken the job out in California as as my first executive director job.
Speaker 1:Oh, okay. And that that's the Monrovia
Speaker 2:years? Yep. Yeah. Yeah. The late nineties and and out in California.
Speaker 1:On and that's just outside Los Angeles or
Speaker 2:Yeah. That's just outside of Pasadena. You know? So if it's right nestled up in the San Gabriel Mountains, if you know LA County at all.
Speaker 1:I don't, not that well. But did it is it part of the what's going on there in terms of the fires? Or It
Speaker 2:got really close.
Speaker 1:I mean,
Speaker 2:I know exactly the Altadena the Eaton fire
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Was right north of Pasadena and Altadena. So, and it and it skirted right up to the edge of a small community called Sierra Madre that we also served with our access center. So we did Monrovia and Sierra Madre. Yeah. And I was looking at the maps and certainly just kinda keeping an eye.
Speaker 2:And they just they were under evacuation warnings and stuff like that. Even when I was there, I mean, I would I remember, like, watching one fire in the San Gabriel Canyon. You know, I'd watch it on TV and go outside and look it up on on the mountain.
Speaker 1:You can see see the fire. Yeah.
Speaker 2:It's, but, you know, nothing like to the extent that they just went through with so much loss and so many neighborhoods just destroyed. Wild. Like, yeah. Mind boggling. Yeah.
Speaker 2:And I have friends still out there. So it was, you know, social media was, my friend Jonathan is in that area. I think he's he did, I don't think his place got burned, but he was definitely evacuated. Yeah. So Whew.
Speaker 2:Yeah. It was tough stuff. It was tough stuff to and and, you know, I remember watching it in Maui. Was it two two years ago?
Speaker 1:Yeah. The yeah. Maui fire
Speaker 2:Yeah. On the coast. And this is after Montpelier had been flooded and stuff like that?
Speaker 1:And they're still
Speaker 2:Yeah. It's this whole, you know, the weather climate change stuff is really just stressing.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Yeah. So, and then yeah. So you were at Orca, really interesting organization. They they, like, similar to here.
Speaker 1:They're they're and and what I like about, public access media. And
Speaker 2:and, for
Speaker 1:me, like, you guys moving downtown, that's, like, how I I always knew it was at the high school, and I had been there for, like, an interview, but it was, you know, off somewhere else. But having it downtown, so cool. I mean, here it is. And, we, I was down here for our arts fest and you guys had like a sign up to, you know, and it
Speaker 2:kind of just clicked with me. I'm like, yeah, like I could do something like
Speaker 1:this, you know? So, clicked with me. I'm like, yeah. Like, I could do something like this, you know. So, look, by coming downtown, you booked me in.
Speaker 1:And now, you know, it's all like public access. Media is also a learning center in a in a sense, learning about media and learning how to ask questions and how to interview and Yeah. I I I hope well, at least I'm getting closer to the mic. You are doing what quite well. I think I I haven't leaned back like this.
Speaker 1:So, so that's that's an improvement.
Speaker 2:It you know, it really was a great move. We we we do maintain a studio, which is our larger studio
Speaker 1:Mhmm.
Speaker 2:Out at the high school.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:It's wonderful for education to get the people in. It's
Speaker 1:very nice.
Speaker 2:Yes. You know, particularly, Beth Camp does a lot of music, so larger bands would be out there. Half my staff is still out there. Mhmm. The local sports is still sort of originating there.
Speaker 2:Yep. That's great. And we've in the the newer stuff we're thinking about, the stuff we wanted to increase, the public access, the the the training, the ability to have, edit suites. Evening hours and weekend hours, we're really trying to staff and keep this place open. When I first we first got here, you know, we've been sort of you know, we just, soft open in in June and July, where I moved my office down here.
Speaker 2:And, you know, it's quite obvious to me that, you know, Cameron Street is very vibrant in the evening Yes. And and in the weekend. So Mhmm.
Speaker 1:You know,
Speaker 2:I when I get here at 08:30 in the morning, it would be pretty quiet. You know?
Speaker 1:A coffee crowd. Yep.
Speaker 2:Yep. So, you know, we wanted to make a real effort to make sure that we were open in the evening. So we're we're staffing for, evening hours until 8PM and then, twelve to eight on on Saturday and Sunday.
Speaker 1:We bring back some live comedy?
Speaker 2:Something. You know, we, you know, we have staff and I were brainstorming a week or two ago about what sort of things could we be using the space for. So we're talking about, you know, the the idea of, the the workshops and trainings that that Amanda's been working on, has has been really great. So if anybody's interested in some of the, workshops and seminars that she's been planning
Speaker 1:Mhmm.
Speaker 2:You can check out our website. It's right there on the website at Mhmm. At bevcam.org.
Speaker 1:Okay. Yeah. Fantastic. And the and and also, like, I'm, you know, learn I'm I'm learning about all this great great staff, great organization, volunteers are awesome. I went to the opening event here and it was a nice group of people.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And it's just really to have this down town is awesome.
Speaker 2:It it you know, I I was a little much,
Speaker 1:like, you know,
Speaker 2:when we first my board started the board started talking about it. I was like, we know it'd be cheaper if we went somewhere kinda off more industrial. Sure. Sure. What's the one off rent to a big park street or something down there?
Speaker 1:Down there. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2:And get a big industrial kind of warehouse
Speaker 3:or something
Speaker 1:like that.
Speaker 2:But they were pretty insistent that they wanted to be on Cabot.
Speaker 1:Yeah. You're right in the heart of Beverly.
Speaker 2:And as soon as, you know, we got here and I started seeing people really and I was like, they were right. It really is kind of it's great to be here. The opportunity to take over the new lease space, you know, the the landlord was really great.
Speaker 1:Yeah. A good transition.
Speaker 2:Yeah. I'd say, you know, it's a great new location. If you haven't been down here, I would suggest just stopping by, checking out what we've done, put a little bit money into the space, you know, bring it up with the technology and stuff
Speaker 1:like that.
Speaker 2:So
Speaker 1:Yeah. And, what what, you know, public access media is a, is a window into, like, local government, democracy
Speaker 2:Yep.
Speaker 1:Community.
Speaker 2:But the whole media structure and the whole media world has changed as, you know, you know, people often wonder why would we need public access, you know, you know, in the early days of public access in the last millennium there, It was, you know, silly people, you know, but, you know, the question became with YouTube, why would you need it anymore? But it's it really is about local events and talking to your local neighbors. YouTube is kinda worldwide.
Speaker 1:It's it's Disparaced and it's it's, I read your short bio and and you mentioned, you know, public access media is more, more active, participatory
Speaker 2:in a
Speaker 1:sense, you know, where legacy media, if that's the correct term, is more more passive. It's been
Speaker 2:something I've talked about for a while about, when I first got involved in access, there was a lot of live talk shows people would call in. Yeah. And and I said at a minimum, this makes people sort of recognize that media can be an active participation as well as opposed to sitting on your couch passively taking in information. So at the start, let's get them calling into a show and engaging in the conversation. Yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And then maybe they start in their own content
Speaker 3:and Right.
Speaker 2:And creating their own show
Speaker 1:or something like that.
Speaker 2:So Yeah. And participating in the conversation. I think that we really, you know, I've talked about it, in the old days, you know, before sort of mainstream media or mass media, you would know your neighbors because you would go out and sit on the porch and you would talk to them or something like that. Right. As we've had the ability as mass media has become more prevalent in our lives, you can spend your whole life in your apartment or your house and not really know your neighbors.
Speaker 1:So
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:The the the idea that, community media can sort of, you know, provide an opportunity to be able to have those, dialogues, those those, you know, those conversations that are important to the community.
Speaker 1:Mhmm.
Speaker 2:I think that's really, important and and can be lost in in today's world. You know? I I rent an apartment and I some of my neighbors I've never met.
Speaker 3:Right. Right. It's just
Speaker 2:we don't we don't you don't have that like you you would imagine, you know, a hundred years ago, you're probably more like you would know that community or something like that.
Speaker 1:Sure. Yeah. Yeah. No. It's, this sort of fracturing of, of society in a way.
Speaker 1:But the, but there is like a particularly, men my age or, an epidemic of loneliness. You know, it's a serious health issue.
Speaker 2:It is.
Speaker 1:Well, you know, and, yeah, this is a great way of, building community and making it more cohesive. And it's also like, making it more cohesive. And and it's also like, in a way, like a open canvas. So you can do a lot of different types of things with public access media.
Speaker 2:Right? You know, it's about providing the tools for your voice, not our voice. There's no programming director here at BevCam. We're not Dev Cam. We're not choosing what to to go on.
Speaker 2:It's really, you know, Sean decides I'm gonna do a talk show and this is what I'm gonna talk about.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Thank you for that.
Speaker 2:Yeah. We it's not like, you know, and people don't understand that. They think, you know, I've had so many people would it be alright if I put a show on Dev Cam? Like, it's not my decision.
Speaker 3:It's your decision when you're not gonna put something on Dev Cam. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You're creating the, like Goddard, you're creating your own curriculum. Yeah.
Speaker 1:You know? Yeah. Design your own curriculum. Yeah. But yeah.
Speaker 1:No. I I, I've it's value to me because it engages me in my community. And, also, I like to find out about people and talk about what what they're doing, what what makes them passionate. So, yeah, it's, it sort of reconnected me to the community. Particularly after the kids get out of high school, you Yep.
Speaker 1:Lose that kinda to get out.
Speaker 2:Yeah. There was a while I was surprised, you know, most of the people that I know, the friends group tend to be my kids' parents. My kids' friends' parents. You know, things like that.
Speaker 3:So Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2:I'm like, that's you know, when you're in your twenties, you kinda had your college buddies and friends and then they move off and you lose touch. And then I'm like Yeah. How do you make friends when you're not in class or something like
Speaker 3:that? Right. Right. Right.
Speaker 2:And then it became my kids' parents. And then Yeah. Yeah. They're they're gone and or they're not gone, but they, you know, they're now adults and Yeah.
Speaker 1:Everyone's kind of yeah. There's no more, like, central meeting place.
Speaker 2:You know? You know, where where do you how do you make friends and how do you do
Speaker 3:stuff? Right.
Speaker 2:I mean, I I I do love my staff, but I like, they're my staff. They're not my friends. You know? Yeah. So, you know, finding things that you're interested in and getting connected, you know.
Speaker 2:I mean, online does help with that. I mean, I I do groups and stuff like that.
Speaker 3:Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2:You know, it's interesting. I I just, for Christmas, got a new VR headset like, Quest three. Nice. I it's very cool technology. Yeah.
Speaker 2:But the the thing that I'm having struggling with is that I'm in these places, these worlds with other people that are talking to me. And it's just like, I don't know you. Who who who are you talking to me? I spent a half half an hour with a gentleman who was on, and he was from Croatia. And we were, like, exploring the world in Google Maps, and he was showing me all these places.
Speaker 2:That's And I'm like Fascinating. So strange and weird and kind of, intimidating, but Yeah.
Speaker 3:Interesting that, you know, that I
Speaker 2:now Right. Yeah. Connected with somebody from that
Speaker 1:who is across the world or something. That's really fascinating there. Yeah. Because you're in a sense, you're creating community, but it's it's a different It's a different,
Speaker 2:you know, digital community or
Speaker 1:something like that. I'm not
Speaker 2:I'm not fully embraced yet.
Speaker 1:You know? It's just
Speaker 2:like, wait. I don't even know who you are.
Speaker 3:Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2:There's something that that I, you know, I think the the the benefit of actually having, you know, looking at somebody. I I used to be sort of wary of the phone because I'm not actually looking at somebody's eyes.
Speaker 1:You you know? Right. Right.
Speaker 3:So I yeah.
Speaker 1:That human kinda
Speaker 2:You know, if it was easier if I knew the person so I could picture them or something like that. But if it was a stranger that I'd never met, I'm not talking to them on the phone. Yeah. I mean, there are so many so much communication that comes in in the in the, the eyes and the gestures. Absolutely.
Speaker 1:Most I would say most Yeah. Is nonverbal.
Speaker 2:Right. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Yeah. For sure. Yeah. And, yeah, it's nice to converse with someone and then you and then something else arises as as a result of two people interacting.
Speaker 1:You know? Something unexpected or spontaneous. Yeah. Which is fun. Yeah.
Speaker 1:So, yeah. Well, thanks, thanks, Bev Cam, and thank you.
Speaker 2:How are you? We're already done? What do
Speaker 1:you mean? And yeah. Well and and, let me ask you. Is there anything you'd like to, to share or or or to add to the discussion?
Speaker 2:No. I other than, you know, Bev Camp's here for the community to use. We want people come using this space. So if you have any questions, if you're interested about what services BevCam provides, but generally, it's production services and resources. So there's cameras, there's edit suites, there's this podcast studio.
Speaker 2:And if we don't have it and you and it's, you know, you you say I'm thinking about doing this, we might get the equipment and say, alright. So we're gonna do some underwater stuff, in in the harbor or
Speaker 1:something. Yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah. So, you know, it's really I used to tell people that it's it's we do the simple part of doing the technology, figuring out what buttons to push. Right. You do the hard part of coming up. What am I gonna talk about?
Speaker 2:What what, you know Yeah. When are we, you know, is there a script? Is there a topic? Is there a bullet point? Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Yeah. We try to make it easy, technically easy
Speaker 3:as possible.
Speaker 1:Yeah. It's funny, like, because, like, the talking part's easy for me.
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah.
Speaker 1:I got the the, I said this like, Gifford Gab. Listen to that. Yeah. Being, Irish of descent, I guess. Yeah.
Speaker 2:The Borneas. Yeah.
Speaker 1:And, but but the the technical aspect is where I falter.
Speaker 2:You
Speaker 1:know? I wouldn't I wouldn't know where to begin. You know?
Speaker 2:Yeah. I would say people don't get don't get, worried about that. You know? We have a really great staff here at BevCam that can that helps
Speaker 1:I agree.
Speaker 2:And try to make tries to make it as painless as possible. Mhmm. It really is about what do you wanna talk about? It's, you know, not Yeah.
Speaker 1:Which microphone.
Speaker 2:I mean, we will talk about microphones with you. But
Speaker 3:Sure. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2:If you need But
Speaker 1:it's more
Speaker 2:like, you know, what do what do you wanna talk about? Here's the best mic for it.
Speaker 3:Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, so so cool. I'm, I'm I'm excited to see, like, what comes about, you know.
Speaker 1:I mean, this cool stuff happening right now. And then, but you're not we're not even, what, six months into you guys, the grand opening.
Speaker 2:Just about yeah. I don't even think we I think Liz is still planning on the ribbon cutting.
Speaker 3:Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So it's just all beginning and then, to
Speaker 3:have it to
Speaker 1:have it downtown is a real real gift.
Speaker 2:It is. It's great to be here. And I'm glad, you know, my I purposely moved my office from the high school to here so that I could be more involved in so that people could come in and talk to me.
Speaker 3:Yeah. Right.
Speaker 2:So it was just I felt so isolated. You know, you know, the school is difficult to get through because you have to Security.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Sure.
Speaker 3:Yeah. Mhmm.
Speaker 2:I mean, you know, here, I mean, we do have cameras, but we don't Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah. You can sort of just walk in, like, like, the library or something.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Even during a live podcast being taped or something like that.
Speaker 1:You're like, oh, no. Here comes Sean again No. With a trash find. That shouldn't be trash finds. Well, Rob, thanks a million.
Speaker 2:It's been great to be here. Thanks for inviting me, Michelle. Awesome.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Cheers. Cheers. Thanks, everyone.