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Everyday we take a break from the busy work day to catch our breath, hang out with friends and talk about the world of Sports, Entertainment and specifically CrossFit. Today we talk about Emily Rolfe's feedback on Xenom, Games changes and feedback, Omar the Hero workout.

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We cover the sport of CrossFit from all angles. We talk with athletes, coaches and celebrities that compete and surround in the sport of CrossFit at all levels. We also bring you Breaking News, Human Interest Stories and report on the Methodology of CrossFit. We also use the methodology to make ourselves the fittest we can be.

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We're just knocking it out the park with

this whole podcasting thing.

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We're all good.

What I want to say is the opening

is a reenactment of me trying to explain

to Corey before we went on air.

I don't know what happened.

My brain disconnected from my tongue and

it just...

All of a sudden,

Scott started speaking Mandarin.

It was crazy.

Just out of nowhere.

And Scott doesn't actually speak Mandarin,

in case you guys didn't know.

It's probably because I hate my job.

Which we were also discussing.

There's that.

Because today I've got to leave to go

to a one o'clock meeting with a meeting

after that and then a meeting after that.

And I've already had a handful of things

before I got here.

Because why wouldn't you?

Because it's a short week.

So let's compress everything from five

days into four.

Yeah,

I know we tell you you get a

day off.

No,

we're going to make you work like all

the days in four.

Judy Reed,

did I hear someone speak Chinese?

Maybe.

It's entirely possible, Judy.

If you can go back and translate,

that'd be fantastic.

Hello, Judy.

That's called aphasia.

Mark Phillips has this to say.

Sweet.

I agree, Mark.

Uh...

How many of those meetings could just be

an email?

Let me answer all of them.

Well,

my first meeting was a training that I

had to conduct that couldn't be an email

because we're recording them to make a

library of trainings.

So people don't have to go out and,

Oh my God,

we've already been through this.

So there it is.

And then the next one probably could have

been an email.

Oh, my gosh.

There it is again.

I guess I should have said I'm right.

Vicky is right.

Vicky is right.

So right.

There we go.

Judy translated and it says,

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Media.

Cridesdale Media.

I did see Avera say that they did

Omar and that it was very hot and

sticky wherever he is.

The last time I did Omar was in

the Outer Banks of North Carolina.

I don't even know what Omar is.

It's bar-facing burpees and thrusters.

Ooh.

Yeah.

It's kind of a nasty,

nasty little hero wad.

And I did it on –

So CrossFit Outer Banks used to be strips

of lifting platforms.

So your barbell was on the rubber and

the wood was down the middle.

So you're doing burpees on the wood.

And as Lake Schweitzer formed,

it was splash down, jump, splash down,

jump.

Try not to fall down.

Jump.

Correct,

because then that wood gets slick.

Slick.

Slick as a whistle.

Slick.

Makes the down part of the burpee go

fast.

I do not like lifting on lifting platforms

during the summertime because of the same

reason.

I sweat a whole lot.

Between the sweat and the chalk,

I end up with basically an ice patch

up underneath me as far as surface is

concerned.

And like,

I am scared to death to do like

a split jerk and have my foot just

hit and go out in front of me

when I got, you know, two fifty,

two hundred sixty pounds over my head.

Not cool.

Ten thrusters at ninety five sixty five.

Fifteen bar facing burpees.

Twenty thrusters.

Twenty five bar facing burpees.

Thirty thrusters.

Thirty five.

Thirty five was absolutely brutal.

Yeah, that could be bad.

Brutal.

And it was the burpees for me.

Like I got through the thrusters.

All right.

The burpees.

But at that point in the workout, I.

You might as well just beat me with

a baseball bat because that's how it felt.

I like that.

I'm good.

I'm good with that one.

That looks like something.

I mean, it's right up my alley.

Lito, it's like a dream workout to her.

Well, we're not as fit as you, Lito.

No.

Just saying.

Working on it.

Working on it.

But as of right now, no,

not so much.

Clydesdales do not like burpees.

I have not met a big dude yet

who was like,

let's do a hundred burpees for time.

I'll tell you what else they don't like,

which we had programmed this morning

because we do it at least once a

year, is a mile run for time.

I actually had a bunch of people show

up this morning.

I was impressed.

And then I had at least

three or four of them that PR'd.

So it was pretty cool,

especially considering it's ninety degrees

outside at six o'clock in the morning.

Yeah, I, burpees for me,

it's all a mentality, right?

Like,

you control the speed and the intensity of

the burpee, right?

And it's just getting to a point where

you find a pace that makes sense to

you and if you can do that then

you can mentally get through that i that

you have to do burpees right now there's

those moments like if you're in the open

or you're in a competition and you got

to go past that comfort pace that all

of a sudden yeah now we're we're not

in fun time anymore this is not happy

happy fun time anymore

You see, the thing is,

see what happened was you go at it

with no warmup and finish before you start

sweating.

If you can finish that workout,

Dan Church, before you start sweating,

you are a rock star stud.

I can't walk outside right now without

sweating.

So like, that's just not going to happen.

I do understand what he means though.

My strategy every time I've done Fran was

to be done with it before my body

figures out what was happening.

Like just go as quick as you possibly

can until you get to like the nine

and by that point it's done basically.

So before your body figures out what's

actually going on.

Same type of thing like that.

Not to change the subject,

but that's what we do on the show.

My wife is home from work today.

She's working from home.

So when I come down to do this

show, she takes her lunch hour.

The bass on my sound system just rocked

my ceiling, her floor.

And you know what that means?

Serial killer shows.

Boom, boom.

Yeah.

yep the big bass booming through my

ceiling something interesting just

happened somebody died who did it or or

and they just revealed who did it ah

it's so silly yeah so silly it really

really is that's all she watches man you

know dude

i sleep with one eye open or my

wife would get along just fine they watch

it that's

If it's on Netflix and it involves,

as long as it doesn't involve kids,

neither one of us are watching that,

right?

Like there was one about it, some lady,

all the descriptions like,

what she did in a NICU.

And I'm like, well, not watching that.

And you got no urge for that.

Definitely not checking that out.

But like all the rest of them,

like the women who killed their husbands,

the husbands who killed their wives,

et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.

Yeah,

we've seen all of those a hundred times.

Sleep with one eye open.

gripping your pillow um there's there was

one that made it through um the lake

erie murders one of the one of the

things actually happened in my old

hometown and it was the sister of one

of my friends

And she wanted to know all the details

of it.

And it's something that like,

I don't want to, like, that's almost,

that's kind of a bad memory for me.

Right.

Yeah,

I don't need to know all the details.

That's the only time like I haven't

supported her in whatever she wants to

watch, right?

Like, because I just,

I didn't need to relive it.

Oh, we watched the Derek Todd Lee stuff,

and that happened right there in Baton

Rouge while my wife was going to LSU.

We've seen all of that stuff.

Proximity for her is even better.

Now she knows all the details because now

if it's somebody that she knows that knows

the person or whatever the case may be,

she's all into that.

Every bad news story starts with he or

she was obsessed with serial killers.

Actually, Wayne,

I think most of them start off with,

he seemed like such a nice guy.

He was quiet.

He's quiet.

Kept to himself.

You know why he kept to himself?

Because if you can't be real social,

if you're burying bodies in the backyard,

that's why they keep to themselves.

You know,

my wife made the news one night.

Say it again.

My wife made the news one night as

a witness to, well, I don't.

Okay.

So she was pulled up to a red

light.

Someone from the other direction ran the

red light,

and their car flipped over top my wife's

car.

And so the news camera came in,

grabbed my wife.

It was raining.

She had her hood up.

They're asking her what she saw.

To this day, my favorite,

funniest story of my wife.

She was like, I don't know.

All I saw was wheels and axles.

There it was on the six o'clock news.

And I'm like,

they find a way to make people look

like they didn't even get their GED when

they interview them for the news.

My wife is a college-educated woman,

and she came across those,

all I saw was wheels and axles.

I don't even know.

I don't even know.

I was standing there one second,

car flipped over, man.

I don't know.

Yeah,

they added that stuff to make it seem...

however they want to make it seem I

mean they could take video of us and

make us look terrible if they wanted to

it really wouldn't be that difficult to do

but yeah they always say they always

interview the stupidest people no not

really I uh

we had a TiVo at the time.

This is how long, it was like,

twenty-five years ago.

Yeah, I had a TiVo.

And I TiVo'd the news to capture that.

And when friends would come over,

I was like, hey, let's watch this.

Right?

And then I,

the saddest moment was I had to get

rid of that TiVo.

games athlete showed up at my box

yesterday to work out she did not do

omar with us i will leave her name

out of the comments section but top ten

athlete for the past five years at the

games i mean uh female top ten athlete

last five years daniel brandon in most

games athletes

My experience when they've dropped in at

boxes I belong to,

don't do the class workout.

Oddly enough,

no games athletes have ever dropped into

the box.

Believe it or not.

I am trying to be the games athlete

that drops into my own box come next

year.

I got bronchitis.

Ain't nobody got time for that.

My old gym, Sarah Sigmund started,

dropped in.

And when I was with Polaris and Christy,

games athletes would come in for the

Arnold and then drop in to work out

with Christy.

Yeah.

So like Justin Medeiros, Sam Briggs,

Dan Bailey was there all the time.

It just happened all the time just because

Christy was there, right?

And they were in for the Arnold,

so they would pop in.

You saw Dan Bailey withdrew from Xenon

over the weekend.

I did.

Did we talk about that yesterday?

Did I see that yesterday?

I don't know if we talked about it

or not.

I did text with Emily Rolfe last night.

Oh, yeah?

Asked her about the Xenon.

The Xenon.

Xenon.

Coming to a city near you.

Not really.

The next city it's going to is London,

which is nowhere near me.

Yeah, but it's near Lido.

It is near Lido.

Yeah, don't be selfish about this.

Okay, fair enough.

My bad.

And so I asked her about the experience

and all that stuff.

And for the most part, very, very glowing.

She said very well run.

The floor was very nice.

The equipment was awesome.

All of that kind of stuff.

But her being an elite.

So we had Megan on Sunday night.

Yep.

I watched it.

Elite.

Emily is an elite athlete who's finished

third at the games, right?

She has done Rogue.

She has done Waterpalooza.

She's done Dubai.

She's done all the things.

And I was like,

did it feel special to you?

And she said, like,

when you've done all the events she's

done,

it's really hard to make an event like

this special.

But she said,

I could imagine if you're not a games

athlete who's done Dubai and Rogue and all

that, that you would feel pretty special.

It probably felt like a bigger comp,

like stuff that she's already done before.

Yeah.

Yeah, I could see that.

Now,

the two pieces I think that are very

valid, kind of,

if you're an elite athlete, because one,

I don't think it's really geared for elite

athletes.

I think they're trying to use elite

athletes to show it off.

But it's really for the people who want

to go try to be like a games

athlete and get the experience, right?

Games fantasy camp is what they kept

saying about it.

Yeah.

So what I will say is the two

constructive things that she said and very

constructive, not in a mean way is one.

It's an all or nothing prize, right?

You break the world record,

you win the money.

You don't break the world record,

no money.

The other thing is she won five events

and,

abby won two and she came in second

she came in second and so she would

say she did say that it does seem

a bit skewed to the gaps in weightlifting

as opposed to the gaps in general fitness

Yeah,

John Young was saying that on the podcast

last night.

I was watching that right before I came

on here about how badly they got beaten

by Colton and Chris on one of them,

whatever it was.

But they won the snatch event,

so it ended up being a whole lot

closer.

But like he said,

they tripled their score.

whatever the whatever the other event was

and i was like man that is like

that's kind of crazy right also i think

that that probably also speaks to the

level of participation because it seems

like there's a wide gap right yeah colton

was there and chris they were on a

team emily was there but sam p technically

the number of people in the field

shouldn't matter because it's your score

on a chart

But it's also the very first time they're

making the chart.

Yeah,

but he has said that they are not

going to change it for – they don't

want to change it for like twenty years.

Yeah.

That's the plan.

Because if you change it,

then the comparison goes away.

Right.

Yeah, the standard is the standard.

So –

I thought one had a great conversation

with her, too.

I thought they were valid points.

And again,

she was very constructive about it.

It wasn't like hating on the event.

She had a good time,

said it was a fun competition,

the whole bit.

Yeah,

Seve was saying this morning that he

hasn't talked to anybody yet who's been

there who had a negative thing to say

about it.

yeah i get the people i know that

we've had a blast yeah constructive is one

thing but just nobody's been like you

sucked you stupid whatever like there's

been none of that so good on them

dude for the very first one you know

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Um, uh,

it annoys me that there are pure strength

events all the time,

but pure endurance or pure gymnastics gets

aggressively criticized.

that's a he's not wrong he's not he's

not wrong and uh oh here we go

larry young's about to throw some stuff in

there but like

I like the fact that there was at

Xenon,

the one minute max echo by calories.

Cause it's not something you see every day

and it is incredibly difficult to do.

And it doesn't necessarily, you know,

you need to be big.

You need to be strong to be able

to put a good score up,

but I could also put a decent score

up for my size and for my age,

because I train on that thing all the

damn time.

We don't have a C two bikes.

So anytime we have something that Brandon

programs with the bike,

I am converting calories over to the, uh,

to the echo.

So like I can hold pretty high RPMs

for a pretty long amount of time.

I like that.

I think the thirty ring muscle ups for

time at the twenty eighteen games.

I enjoyed the shit out of that because

that's another completely specialized test

and it needs to be tested.

If you're going to test,

if you're going to have a one rep

max,

you're going to have the not even a

one rep max scratch that the total you're

going to have the CrossFit total,

which is literally three power lifting

event.

Right.

Then, yeah.

Why not have to balance that out?

We're also going to do thirty ring muscle

ups for time.

And if you want to throw something else

in there,

they should have did just a straight run.

I don't think there's any criticism with

Xenon and the balanced test.

No,

I think it's the balanced scoring that her

comment was made about, right?

Yeah, absolutely.

There is a little bit of everything in

this Xenon.

Um,

Her point was Abby won two weightlifting

events.

Right.

And wins the overall thing.

She wins five of the other events.

Which is half of them.

Yeah.

If you won half the events at the

CrossFit Games,

you would win the CrossFit Games.

If you took first place at half of

the events...

last year not even this year with the

twenty last year if you won half of

the ten you are going to win the

games period true so that's where that's i

think that's what that that's how she's

looking at and i don't think she's wrong

so lito go back and look at the

scores i'm not trying to like look how

bad emily beat other people in some of

the events

And then compare it to how bad Abby

beat other people in the weightlifting

events.

I think that it doesn't make sense.

But in all fairness,

we have one data point.

Yeah.

We have one data point.

And once more of these come along,

I think we'll be able to see if

there truly is a gap by winning those

two that Abby won.

Yeah, let's see what happens in London.

Let's see what happens down the road a

little bit.

We have one event, one weekend.

Because in some of those wins that Emily

had, she won by a pretty big margin.

Yeah, a hundred percent.

So again, Vicky, it's not about placing.

It's about where you plot out on the

chart.

Other people's results mean nothing to you

and your score.

No.

The people I know that did it would

one percent like to do it again.

I mean, even.

Yeah,

everybody I talk to would like to do

it again if another no,

no other reason than to see if they

can beat their previous scores.

Which is the most CrossFit thing you can

possibly imagine.

I just want to beat my score,

my old score.

So I think that's pretty cool.

So yeah, the scoring is on.

If you did it by yourself,

the scoring would be the same as if

you did it in a group of ten

people because it's only based on your

finish time or finish weight or finish

whatever from each event.

And then they go over to a spreadsheet

and they go, okay,

two fifteen snatch equals six hundred

points yep a three fifty eight in this

equals seven hundred and twenty two points

so you know

What's stopping you from doing it at home?

Just the Rhino?

You can buy a Rhino.

Twelve hundred dollars.

You buy a Rhino from Rogue.

Twelve hundred dollars and twelve hundred

dollars to ship.

C-two?

Is it C-two?

That's a C-two deal, isn't it?

Or is it Rogue?

I don't remember.

It's Rogue.

It's Rogue.

Yeah.

Go get one from Rogue.

Three ships free.

yeah buy a rhino and two ten pound

dumbbells just yeah hundred percent free

ships free baby yeah rogue is a major

sponsor of xenon they created this

supposedly just for xenon it looked cool

um

From what I understand,

if you are proficient or enjoy or however

you want to look at that, deadlifts,

then you probably did pretty good on it.

And if not, but they said it's multi-use.

You can deadlift.

You can belt squat.

You can do a multitude of things on

it,

not just what they used it for over

the weekend.

Larry Young's waiting on his out by where

FedEx delivers.

I wonder if they can fit it in

that little envelope.

You got to send in parts if you're

going to do it like that.

Some assembly required.

You get the nuts and screws on day

one.

Larry Young's a big old boy.

He can handle it.

If it comes in several different pieces,

if it comes in all at once,

I'm pretty sure he can handle it.

That dude is large.

He got a mitt on him.

It swallowed my hand when we shook hands.

It was crazy.

Jason Bourne called that event and it was

crazy the different muscles that athletes

were feeling after it.

I loved Adam Klink's description of it

last night on WODprep.

He said that him and Jake Douglas figured

out

kind of the formula.

And his call for that was,

which was interesting,

it needs to be standardized because it's

speed over distance.

And the shorter you make the distance,

the faster you can go.

And so he actually said to Katie that

you need to standardize this in a way

that prevents people from gaming it.

Good news is if they told that to

Katie, she's actually going to listen.

Well, I think Wilson Park will listen.

I think those organizers will listen.

They're not stupid people,

and they know what side of their bread

their butter is on.

Avera says,

I'll do a Xenon if Lito agrees to

do it with me as a mixed pair.

Lito, before you answer,

you are not used to finishing last,

so it will be a new experience for

you for sure.

Basically, Avera was like,

I'm going to do it with Lito,

but Lito needs to drag us across the

finish line.

Again, Wayne,

the placings don't matter on the scoring.

It's not typical CrossFit.

It has nothing to do with the final

score.

Zenom is the most talked about event

today.

The event was amazing.

It's the most talked about because it's

what just happened.

Yeah, it was literally three days ago.

I think that the feedback has been amazing

and I think the feedback is good.

But I do...

want to see where they go from here

yeah i'm curious i truly am and they're

going to build up a more of a

database as they go so like you can

have more scores in there and more scores

in there more scores in there it's going

to be it's going to be pretty cool

uh they do know how to not to

pre-butter their bread before they toast

it

Unless your name is David Justin.

He sent me a video of him buttering

his bread and then putting it in the

toaster.

Because he wanted to live on the edge.

He sent me the same video.

Look what we created.

We created a world where people are now

trying to pre-butter their bread before

they toast it.

It's an aggregate score.

How does the placing not count?

Your score is not based.

You could finish dead last,

but if you get a score high enough,

you could still score nine hundred points.

There is a chart for finishing times that

you look at and that's what you get

your score.

There's truly no correlation between place

of finish and scoring other than just the

natural assumption that the people going

faster than you would be ahead of you

on the leaderboard.

Their score would be higher,

but the difference between the scores has

nothing to do with where you placed.

Oh, it's weird.

It's, I mean, I say it's weird.

It's different.

It is much more individual and

or she much more community focused and

it's hey bro you it's you against you

uh did david johnson butter sourdough uh i

put it like this it didn't look like

store-bought it was not wonder bread no it

wasn't it did not look like it was

the best thing since sliced bread sliced

bread

uh larry young the best thing about xenon

is you know what you're training for

either you're willing to put into work or

not ten events baby what's your max snatch

what's your max calories on the echo bike

how fast can you do these other things

one i don't believe it was guessed there

was a lot of research as to what

they did a whole bunch of math what

and they tested and they tested and they

tested yeah so it's not a guess but

you that owner said on several podcasts

they if they change the score it defeats

the purpose of what they're trying to

accomplish accomplish yeah

Daniel Arnson giving nine ninety nine to

the girls cause of going to the games.

And we forgot to mention that at the

top all weekend, all week long.

We are taking super chat donations for

Carolyn and Jamie to get to the CrossFit

Games.

And one hundred percent of what you donate

will go to them.

I am taking I am paying whatever YouTube

takes out of it.

I am paying to them.

So they will get one hundred percent of

the donations that come into the chat.

I texted Jamie yesterday and I said,

you missed a huge opportunity to charge a

dollar ninety nine per flex.

She was like, yeah, I realized that later.

Maybe we'll do that Sunday night.

I said if anybody would ever ask me

to flex,

I would take all of my donations and

give it to you.

I'm not going to the games this year.

If by some wild chance somebody asks for

that this week, I got you.

Daniel does have a condition for Jamie.

She only gets her cut if she says

go blue.

Not going to happen.

It's going to be a cold day in

hell.

Not going to happen.

uh let me answer this earlier uh who

was it vicky i think was asking see

if i can find it right quick oh

yeah equipment question if you had to

choose between buying a ski or a runner

for your home gym what would you get

or you got an echo bike and a

rower um i would probably get a skier

because outside is free and i live in

south louisiana

You were in Tennessee.

I don't know if it snows where you

are.

So wintertime might be a question or if

you live on a hill or anything like

that.

But outside is free as far as running

is concerned.

I wish we had a runner like at

the gym just because it's a whole lot

easier to just do your run, get off,

do whatever you got to do,

jump right on the runner instead of having

to go back outside,

come to your barbell all the way in

the back.

But for the house,

I don't think I need a runner.

I think I would rather have a skier.

Let me answer that question for you,

Vicky.

If someone's buying it for me,

I go with the runner.

Yeah.

Because... A huge price difference.

Because I can easily afford a ski erg.

Yeah.

I cannot easily afford a runner.

It's like three times the price.

If Santa Claus has come to Vicky's house

and said, you get one piece of equipment,

pick it, go with the runner.

Yeah.

Um...

Or something else here.

I better be careful, Corey.

You never know what people ask you to

do for donations.

Never underestimate the levels I was

stooped to to help my friends that winter.

Just saying.

Gosh, Corey,

the skier gets so damn boring.

It's boring,

but it's an effective training tool.

I skied this morning.

I don't want to see it at the

games.

I skied this morning.

As a matter of fact,

I'm going back and skiing again this

afternoon.

It'll work your core,

which you don't realize until after you

get done,

but my abs will be hurting if I

do a serious ski piece.

Yeah, I agree.

Speaking of things you see at the games,

I've gotten a lot of engagement on a

post I made on Instagram yesterday about

my plan to go with ten athletes at

the CrossFit Games.

I would say a lot is kind of

a...

That's a, that's a misnomer.

You got a way more than a lot.

What I, here's the thing that I'm not,

I'm not like sold a hundred percent on

this plan that I'm throwing out,

but the data is telling us that less

people are attending the games,

less people are signing up for the open,

less people are watching online.

right yeah we got to do something because

the definition of insanity is to keep

doing the same thing over and over and

over again and expecting a different

result and there are a lot of factors

and i'm well aware of them getting rid

of this the festival atmosphere at in

madison was a huge mistake upping the

ticket price for the games huge mistake

Having a season where everybody is

touchy-feely, hey,

let's make everybody have eighteen

opportunities to make the games is...

It's a bad idea.

It's a bad idea, right?

If I was to go with the ten

per,

the rest of the season would have to

be meaningful and have as much excitement

getting there as the ten people seen do

the events at the games.

Yeah,

I think we touched on that not to

be stripped back and changed and modified.

I feel like we touched on that whenever

we talked about it the other day,

like you would,

there's no way you couldn't do the current

season and have it in with ten people.

No, no, no, no, no.

It's not going to happen.

And I think we touched on that,

but I think people can't get a hold

of sound bites.

And they just assumed that we meant,

oh yeah, no,

we're still going to have the exact same

thing that we're going on now,

but we're just going to go with ten

instead of thirty.

It's not what we said.

Not what Scott said.

No, you have to overhaul it all.

Yes.

All of it has to be overhauled.

And having it in one of the most

expensive cities.

Big mistake.

Yes.

A hundred percent.

Not even cities, states.

California is expensive in general.

Avera, Scott,

were the seats ever empty in Madison?

I do not think so.

Go back to Madison.

Yes, they were.

But towards the end, they were not.

This is the problem.

Madison is expensive.

It is an old,

antiquated venue that takes a week of

setup to get ready.

You had to build the outdoor venue and

tear it down after.

It was a great idea.

But just because I am sure you could

find something in another city that you

could do the same thing and wouldn't have

to do all that.

Right?

Like, it's doable.

You go to Columbus...

They have a baseball stadium,

they have a hockey arena,

and they have a soccer field literally in

two blocks.

And I'm not saying come to Columbus

because maybe it's not the best or ideal

situation either, but if Columbus has it,

other cities have the same thing.

Right?

Seattle.

Seattle.

I've been, I've been to the,

whatever the name of the Marlins arena is.

You can see the football stadium from it.

Yeah.

Like it's literally right there.

As we were walking up,

there's lots of places like that is,

is what the point is that you could

easily do stuff like host the games and

have it be more cost effective where you,

you don't feel like you need to sell

tickets for whatever they're going for.

I know,

I know that are absolutely ridiculous.

Daniel Arnson,

I think I've said a ton of times

that he is a smart individual.

He likes my idea because it's better,

concise, more drama.

Getting to the games in every event

matters more.

Bingo, bango.

And I will admit that Madison was the

height of sports popularity,

but we are not there anymore.

We have far less affiliates even.

I like Columbus too little Larry Young to

the hopefully Xenon takes off same ten

people mid go girls it wouldn't be the

same ten people no you look at the

men's field this year I swear I said

this Sunday night it will be the smallest

margin of points between first and tenth

we've ever seen at the games

It's gonna be a dogfighting.

Twenty events.

When do you get on the payroll?

When I do.

Same time you start sending me checks

there, Scott.

Daniel, don't even worry about it.

That's good.

Unrelated,

did you guys see that Erica Follow is

with HWPO?

I heard that rumor.

I've tried to figure it out.

I have not seen that winter.

Everything I see shows she's still with

Misfit.

So unless something popped in the last day

or so...

I had not heard that at all.

Not that I keep up with Erica Follow

that much, but...

I don't see her being a HWPO athlete

unless she was going there specifically

for Justin.

Yeah, Kyler.

Oh,

HWPO posted their athlete roster today.

I'll check it out.

I've already said I said this yesterday,

but the fact that Bruce is not talking

about the game so much tells me he

will have a lot to say after they

are done and a lot of changes are

coming.

But he did help move the hopper.

And he did talk about the games in

his two-brain speech.

He did.

I don't think he has a lot to

say about the games because he's not

necessarily involved with the games other

than being CEO at this point.

He just got there.

Everything has already been put in place

and in motion before he ever got there.

I hate to be this way,

but I have a meeting in one minute.

So we are going to go real quick

right now.

Bye, guys.

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