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Seth Holehouse is a TV personality, YouTuber, podcaster, and patriot who became a household name in 2020 after his video exposing election fraud was tweeted, shared, uploaded, and pinned by President Donald Trump — reaching hundreds of millions worldwide.
Titled The Plot to Steal America, the video was created with a mission to warn Americans about the communist threat to our nation—a mission that’s been at the forefront of Seth’s life for nearly two decades.
After 10 years behind the scenes at The Epoch Times, launching his own show was the logical next step. Since its debut, Seth’s show “Man in America” has garnered 1M+ viewers on a monthly basis as his commitment to bring hope to patriots and to fight communism and socialism grows daily. His guests have included Peter Navarro, Kash Patel, Senator Wendy Rogers, General Michael Flynn, and General Robert Spalding.
He is also a regular speaker at the “ReAwaken America Tour” alongside Eric Trump, Mike Lindell, Gen. Flynn.
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Man in America. I'm your host, Seth Holehouse. There's not a whole lot of conversations that I have with people that leave me just incredibly excited for life and excited for what's ahead, especially in this line of work where, you know, part of my job is exposing the deep, dark underbelly of the cabal in this world. But I just finished this interview with Todd Callender, which you're getting ready to watch. And I have to say it was one of the most inspiring and fun discussions I've had in a very long time.
Seth Holehouse:So we go into a big update with some things happening with the military in this this letter that over 200 service members, you know, put forth, basically demanding justice for the war crimes of imposing this vaccine upon them. But we go much deeper than that into a look at where we're at right now. This discussion of a civil war, will it be successful? Are the pieces in place that they require to make that happen? Where are we at with this pandemic two point o?
Seth Holehouse:And what you'll see through the interview and what I've come to realize, you know, individually and also amidst this discussion is that there are so many indicators that we are actually winning. And as Todd so accurately puts it, and I agree with him, he says 2024 is the year that we take our planet back. So folks, please enjoy this interview with attorney Todd Callender. And if you like it, you get halfway through, hit pause, share it with some friends. Because this is a message I think it's really important for us.
Seth Holehouse:We have to keep our heads up. We have to keep hope for the future. We have to keep a sense that we can win this war and that we are winning this war. And I hope this interview delivers that for you precisely. So folks, please enjoy this interview.
Seth Holehouse:Todd, it's one of the highlights of my week or month, whenever it is I get to talk to you. And here we are in the New Year. There's a lot of crazy things happening with good things happening. And I have to say it's just such a joy to sit down and pick your brain. So thanks for being here.
Todd Callender:You know, you took the words out of my mouth. I love this. We get a chat, and then let everybody else in on the chat. And that's the coolest part. And we're here, man.
Todd Callender:We're still here. Maybe it's prophetic. We talked about it last year. You know what happens with humanity? We're going to survive it.
Todd Callender:Brother, we're here. And and there's there's good news abound.
Seth Holehouse:There really is. And so while there's a lot of things that we could be covering, which I'm sure we will, one thing I want to talk in particular about is the military, The US Military. I know that you've been heavily involved in in representing, you know, legally the the military and people within the military as it relates to the mandates. And recently, something that's been very heavily censored, which I think is very important I wanna talk to you about is this letter. So here's an article on the Children's Health Defense website saying military leaders broke the law.
Seth Holehouse:Over 200 active duty military active duty and retired service members demand accountability for harms caused by the COVID vaccine mandate. And so just quickly, read here. It says over 200 service members and veterans signed an open letter alleging military leaders broke laws and violated rights with coercive vaccine policies. The signatories called for accountability and pledged to take legal action to restore justice. So this seems right up your alley.
Seth Holehouse:So how significant is this? What does this mean? Wow.
Todd Callender:How how far have we come? It's astounding. You know, in August of twenty twenty one, it took one man. It took one. His name was Dan Robert.
Todd Callender:He was our plaintiff in Robert v Austin, and that was the case where we filed a temporary restraining order against the military against Mr. Austin, who said 1,400,000 service members have to get this shot, which we knew, by the way, was poison, which is why we filed a temporary order to stop him from doing that. And you know what happened at the end of the day after lawsuits happened after that, but that wasn't it. What happened is the service members themselves fell in on Dan, and they came to our firm and other firms. They they said, how do we fight this fight for ourselves?
Todd Callender:And we helped them draft templates and whatever else. In the end, 400,000 service members stood up and said, No, hell no. We are not taking your damn shot. And they ended up backing down the single largest, most efficacious killing machine the planet has ever known. They stopped the US DOD killing machine from within.
Todd Callender:It was humanity saying, No, we're not doing this no more. This is not going to happen. And so the reality of the situation is that this document you speak of, there's one coming behind it. This one was Rob Green, one of our many, many people that helped with raising up 400,000 people to fight, building templates and doing classes. There's another one.
Todd Callender:Tom Remford, Colonel Remford, was the original plaintiff in the case, the anthrax case, and stopped the government the first time. He has a petition as well. This one going in front of the Congress. The difference is this. Look at the change in tide.
Todd Callender:Where the use of force was authorized, which is one of the reasons we sued. Thank God we got that stopped. But they were gonna hold people down. If they if we didn't stop them, Seth, the US military was gonna hold people down and shoot them with this shit. It's the same as lead.
Todd Callender:Right? Liquid lead, it doesn't matter. You're dead either way. And we stopped them. Now, guess what?
Todd Callender:Now you got these guys, these same heroes standing up leading the way. Follow me. It's time for a reconciliation of what you did. You did this and you knew or you should have known those orders were illegal. There's something called the felony murder rule, which means that if a person dies in the commission of a felony, everybody involved in the felony is guilty of murder one.
Todd Callender:Right? That's what they're saying. This is it. It's time. Right?
Todd Callender:The reckoning is here, and these guys are openly saying it unafraid standing. Some of those people I saw that sign that, they're wearing the uniform. It's like, come and get me. What are you gonna do now? It's just astounding.
Todd Callender:It's so so uplifting.
Seth Holehouse:And even though 200, you know, I think it's 230 some odd people that signed, it seems like a small number. What is the significance of this letter?
Todd Callender:Well, the significance, particularly for those in uniform, and frankly, those that are out of it, is is they could be court martialed. You know, this is it's tantamount, and I wanna be careful with my words. In the beginning of this, people were afraid to say, hey, commander, this is an illegal order. You can't force me to take an experimental shot. Now the paradigm has shifted to, hey, you sons of bitches.
Todd Callender:We know this was poison, and we know that you knew this is poison, and this is a criminal offense, and we're coming after you. Right? That's that's beyond insubordination. Under the Uniform Code of Military Justice, this this could carry a very weighty price for those in uniform saying this. That's how sure they are.
Todd Callender:That's how unafraid they are. This is the call to action. This is the rally cry. This is the guide on walking down the field of battle with this flag saying, we are here. We're coming for you.
Seth Holehouse:And when we take a step back and look at America and the threat against America, especially as it relates to these global communist systems and organization organizations such as the WHO, the UN, the WEF, etcetera, The looking in particular at the WHO and the amendments that they're trying to push through that would really, you know, give them our, you know, rights over us. So they allow the WHO to bypass their own constitution. Now what's interesting is that even that process is being delayed. And I interviewed James Rogusti recently talking about how they're now openly admitting that they're not gonna make their own timeline of getting the comments back in order and so it might push the whole thing back a year, which is really positive. But how does the military and the obedience or disobedience of the military fit into that?
Seth Holehouse:Because for, you know, we have so resident Biden who signs on to this these agreements, basically saying, okay, you know, I will hand you control of our constitutional hand you control of our country, WHO. So if things if there's a, you know, a national emergency or a public health threat, whatever they want to define it as, that would give them then control to enforce things on the people. But am I right in understanding that they would have to then utilize the military to enforce that on the people. And if we're seeing a crack in the obedience of the military in this way, how does that all fit together? What's it mean for us?
Todd Callender:Wow. Oh, man, this is so cool. What a great question. It's gonna take me a minute to answer it. Let's start let's start with this.
Todd Callender:You know, because I just spoke about it. What is use of force? Austin, Mr. Austin said, I authorize the use of force to give 1,400,000 active duty service members a shot that's never been done before. MRNA technology is untested technology.
Todd Callender:It's experimental, except they didn't call it experimental. They said specifically the statute, this is not experimental, even though it was. And they knew that the side effects were many, including death, and they did it anyway. Use of force authorized. Why did they do that?
Todd Callender:And this is actually why we filed the lawsuit. We we knew that if we didn't poison the well, that if we didn't get people inside the military understanding what this really meant, which is what you're alluding to right here, which is the US military holding people down and giving them these experimental shots, these transhumanism shots that either make them into a slave species or make them dead. Either way, that was the plan, and they were going to do it by use of force. Round people up. They might as well, you know, line you up against a wall and give you either syringe or bulleted head.
Todd Callender:It didn't matter which because the same effect, and they granted onto themselves the power to do this. And this is the point. The pretext, right? The international health regulations from 02/2005 signed on by so many nations. That was just the means by which they would convince humanity that this had some legitimacy and that we should voluntarily commit suicide by sticking these things in our arm or going to your childhood doctor who's known you the whole life.
Todd Callender:Doctor, please give me some of that poison because it's the right thing to do. Killing 7,000,000,000 people is no small task. These bastards knew that there is no way to kill 7,000,000,000 people short of a nuclear war, which even then wouldn't do it, without convincing people to take this poison themselves. So they created this facade. This wonderful World Health Organization, we care so much about you.
Todd Callender:The International Health Regulations is multilateral cooperation and coordination. Look, at the end of the day, it was a foregone conclusion. This was nothing more than a show to convince people to commit suicide. They already had the amendments done and dusted. Who is who are the ones that are suggesting the amendments?
Todd Callender:Us, The US. Right? Who are the ones tasked with enforcing the WHO orders by virtue of an international health concern public health concern of international sorry. Public health emergency of international concern. Six magic words.
Todd Callender:That was us, the US military. The public health responsibility was moved under the Department of Defense, the Defense Health Agency in particular, by virtue of the National Defense Authorization Act from 2019 to 2023. They militarized public health, and then they made Tedros Adnan in charge of it, such that upon a declaration of a public health emergency, the US military would be his henchmen. They would hold people down and shoot them with whatever it was that he wanted to shoot them for mere suspicion of sniffle alone. The reality is that already happened.
Todd Callender:The talk about amendments to the IRH. What a bunch of nonsense because they already agreed it. What they're admitting to us, Seth, is that humanity woke up and we're not going to commit suicide. There's no way they're going to convince us to do it. So they're trying to figure out what else they can do and whether they can salvage this nonsense.
Todd Callender:Reality is we have backed them down without the US military, them willing to hold people down. Right? That's why we poisoned the well. Fruition, possibility of forcing these shots on people is gone. It is zero.
Todd Callender:There is no will to fight. Nobody in the DOD. None of our troops are gonna do this. And by the way, we have whistleblower clients still in the military. Doctors will tell you it is true that they that they can't fill the ranks now with Americans who won't go into the military.
Todd Callender:So they're taking people coming across the board, don't speak English, don't have any education, and they're trying to put uniforms on them and make them into troops that they can order to kill us. And you know what's happening? They're giving them the same damn shots and making them so sick they can't get through boot camp. There is no way they can force these shots on us. And this is why you're seeing these petitions.
Todd Callender:We're coming for you. Because people instinctively know the tide has changed. And what you will see now, politicians being those that change with the wind, they're gonna start saying, oh, yeah. You know, we should probably do something about that. And and it's already happened.
Todd Callender:I saw it on Mr. Bannon's show. He has the surgeon general of Florida, Mr. Labcoe, who, by the way, has done some really good things. But the setup is already here.
Todd Callender:He says, yeah, you know, we should we should seek some reckoning with Mr. Fauci, Doctor. Fauci, But there's only three guys that can possibly do that. He names the doctors, all of whom, by the way, have their connections into the government, let's put it that way, who have been called to to testify in front of Congress. The point is the fix is in.
Todd Callender:The fix is in. They are going to hang Fauci, and they're going to do it very publicly, and they're going to say, see, everything is better now. But please don't forget the felony murder rule. There were so many people complicit. And you know what?
Todd Callender:I got to tell you, Seth. When we made those templates for service members, there were thousands of them that picked the criminal complaint template, the article 138, the inspector general complaint. The effect of that is, hey, you're on notice. We know this is criminal. You are conducting criminal behavior.
Todd Callender:This is a war crime, number one. And number two, the penalty for for for this is death, and international law says you don't get to escape this. And we're putting you on notice, General so and so, and Secretary of Defense, and Secretary of Health and Human Services, and the FDA, and our government generally. This is our notice to you that that we're coming after you because we know this is a crime. So think about that.
Todd Callender:It's they can't say we didn't know is what I'm trying to tell you. This goes back to 2020. Our government, those those politicians, the ones that wave in the wind cannot say they didn't know because we told them and we served it upon them in Congress, our whistleblowers. We served their IG complaints, including Bruce MacGray, the FAA. We served them on Congress, and the heads of these agencies, they cannot say they didn't know.
Todd Callender:We followed the law, and they are looking at a hanging.
Seth Holehouse:And so piecing all this together, if you look at the size of the system that we're up against, which you've legally you've experienced that this the behemoth of the corrupt state controlled court and judicial system. Yes. You didn't look at the military, and how as you go further up in the ranks, the corruption gets higher and higher and deeper and deeper. And I mean, as we unearth all these documents from Epstein, I mean, I'm sure that it is. It's like the tip of the tip of the tip of the iceberg in terms of corruption and blackmail and control.
Todd Callender:Yes. I think that's
Seth Holehouse:The deep state has over these systems, especially these here in America.
Todd Callender:Well, they are the system.
Seth Holehouse:Well, there you go. Exactly. Exactly. So with this momentum resisting against it, how does this end up? Because the systems in place are supposed to be enforcing this justice are so corrupted.
Seth Holehouse:So is it does it end up with some sort of split with some sort of I'm not gonna say I don't wanna say civil war necessarily, but that's where a lot of things seem to That's
Todd Callender:where they want it to go.
Seth Holehouse:Like division of that degree, Where like what happens if if an order comes down from Tedros that okay, hey, we've now got Marburg and every United States citizen is now required to get the Marburg vaccine. And they're going to then set up the military to enforce that. Yes. What does that look like? How does it play out?
Seth Holehouse:I know it's not easy to
Todd Callender:tell you.
Seth Holehouse:Go ahead.
Todd Callender:No, it is easy. Okay. It is. It's really easy because you're in the middle of it right now. What does it look like?
Todd Callender:You and I are sitting here talking and having a chat because that already happened. So go into the Federal Register. That's where our government publishes new laws. And in December of last year, they said there's going to be a Marburg pandemic on January 1. They declared a Marburg pandemic on January 1, but they did it in December.
Todd Callender:You're in it right now. The public health emergency for purposes of The United States law, suspending your human rights, suspending your rights, It already happened. Look around. What do you see? Do you see any troops in the streets?
Todd Callender:The answer is no, because they've they've lost the war already. And it's not just the military, because you know damn well they're gonna go to the the badges and the guns, and they're going to say, you've got to round people up and you've got to do this because they've got to finish the job or they shall hang. They know that that is the paradigm. And even that is not going to work. And I'll tell you why.
Todd Callender:Because when that public health emergency is declared, our government made something called the Bureau of Justice. And the Bureau of Justice, you and I've talked about it before, is a combination of responsibilities when this declaration happens. They combine law enforcement with corrections with public health and the coup d'etat, the judiciary. They all become one. Lo and behold, my case, Robert v Austin, that set forth the question, is it true?
Todd Callender:Because existing case law says this. Is it true that the people that got the Moderna and Pfizer shots are now a new slave species? Because that's the law right now today. And the Supreme Court said, blah, blah, blah. We're not going to hear it.
Todd Callender:So did the tenth Circuit Court of Appeals after oral arguments and six months worth of deliberations, as did the trial court. They didn't say you're wrong, and nowhere in this period of time did the Department of Justice deny this. None of it. Over three years, they never said you're wrong. They just said, look, you guys, we're not gonna talk about this.
Todd Callender:Right? You know what? They're not talking about it has made it really interesting to people. The Supreme Court not giving me giving our plaintiff his day in court to say you can't own people. That law is void as a matter of public policy.
Todd Callender:By them not doing that, it's a self fulfilling prophecy. What your question is, what does it look like? It looks like the reckoning. The great reset isn't happening. The great reckoning is happening.
Todd Callender:We're taking our planet back. The tide has changed, and these people are on the run.
Seth Holehouse:Hey, folks. I've got a quick message for you. So I'm sure you've heard a lot of people, myself included, talking about the importance of buying precious metals, gold and silver. But what's really behind that? Is it just a thing of, hey.
Seth Holehouse:Buy this gold. Buy this silver. Right? Or is there something deeper that we should be looking at? So I recently came across some figures about house prices.
Seth Holehouse:So in 1930, the average family home was approximately $4,000. Fast forward to 02/2023, the average family home is just over $400,000. So you have to ask yourself, why is that? Is it because things have just gotten more expensive? No.
Seth Holehouse:It's actually because the dollar has lost 99% of its value since 1930. Right? When people talk about the collapse of the dollar or inflation, this is what it means. Now let's take a look at gold. So in 1930, if you wanted to purchase your home in gold, it would take approximately 200 gold coins.
Seth Holehouse:So 200 gold coins would purchase the average family home in 1930, about $4,000. Now if you instead of buying a home with that gold or cash, you set those aside. If you set aside $4,000 in cash in 1930, it would be worth $4,000 today. What can you buy with $4,000? Can you buy a family home?
Seth Holehouse:No. You can't even buy a crappy used car. But if you set aside $4,000 worth of gold coins in 1930, which is 200 gold coins, 1 ounce coins, that would be worth approximately $400,000 today. And this is the key lesson about precious metals. It's not about getting rich.
Seth Holehouse:It's about putting your money into an asset that protects you against inflation and against the destruction of the currency, which is what happens to all fiat currencies, especially now we're in the end days of the dollar. And so that's why it's important, maybe not all of your money, but a portion of your money, a portion of what you have, I highly recommend putting it into precious metals of gold and silver, because what it's doing is it's protecting you. This is an asset that has stood the test of time, not just stood the test of time since the nineteen thirties. We're talking about the rise and fall of civilizations. Gold was used to buy houses back in ancient Rome.
Seth Holehouse:It's still around. It's an asset that will forever have its value. So folks, if you want to do this and you need someone you can trust, there's no person I can recommend more than doctor Kirk Elliott. He's a very good friend of mine. He's a strong Christian patriot, and he's out to really help people to protect their savings and what you've worked for against the destruction of the dollar, not to mention also protecting it against the dangers of a central bank digital currencies.
Seth Holehouse:So to learn more about this, go to goldwithseth.com or call (720) 605-3900. Again, that's goldwithseth.com or (720) 605-3900. Both those places will allow you to set up a quick appointment where you can talk to a wealth advisor that will help get you started on this path. Again, goldwithseth.com, 7 2 0 6 0 5 3 9 0 zero. Gosh.
Seth Holehouse:It's it's nice hearing these words. It's nice hearing these words from someone that actually understands what's going on and what this looks like. So, I mean, is interesting. And what I'm kind of just percolating my mind listening to you talk and as I'm piecing together what you're saying and fitting into my understanding of what's happening in the world is that it that we've put a lot of emphasis on understanding what comes next pandemic, etc. But what I'm saying from you is that it's already here.
Seth Holehouse:And the fact that we're not all locked in our homes and being forcedly vaccinated and all this stuff is an indicator that even though it's already here, it's failing. It's failure to Because throughout this time, since they pulled this switch, since they started this event in 2020, enough people woke up, enough people spoke up, enough people stood up, enough people shared information to get enough people in this country and around the world to say, I'm done. I'm not participating in this. I'm not playing your game. And now I think that they know that they can't do this.
Todd Callender:They know.
Seth Holehouse:So I think that their only hope, as you mentioned, and as Obama so, you know, easily prophesied and and here, you know, in in his leave the world behind movie, like their Yes. Oops. Wrong page there. Anyway, their only hope is, let's just get civil war. Let let's just somehow figure out how to get civil war going.
Todd Callender:Exactly. And it's not gonna happen. Why? Because people are figuring it out. They've unbridled.
Todd Callender:They've unshackled their brains. And I got to tell you, Seth, and I really mean this wholeheartedly. Brother, that's you. That's you and people like you that didn't stand out. It's not just Dan Robert that stood, not just Melissa McAtee, you know, Pfizer Wisdom Lord.
Todd Callender:I could go on all day. That's you too, you know, and others exactly like you who are unafraid. Right. You got kicked off of YouTube. You got kicked off of Facebook, but you didn't back down.
Todd Callender:You doubled your effort. You tripled your efforts. And look at the effect of that. It is you that is saving humanity, and everyone that watches this, who talks to their friends and family, you're part of the solution. You are saving our species, and God bless you for that.
Seth Holehouse:Thank you. And honestly, I I feel like I'm just a conduit. It's the people in their silence. It's the it's the audience that's watching this, sharing this information. Even though I feel like a lot times I may be preaching to the choir, it's like what we're doing is that we're giving them the ammunition to go talk to their their their grandfather or their sister or their cousin, and and this is what's doing it.
Seth Holehouse:It's that's you mentioned before, I wanna hone in on this phrase. You said, the great reset has failed and the great reckoning is here, and that we're taking back our planet. It's just it's interesting to frame what's happening right now in history as that.
Todd Callender:God built us for this moment, Seth. God built you for what it is you do, and I very much appreciate your humility. It's it's really endearing, and and it's heartfelt. We all know that. Everybody watching you knows that.
Todd Callender:But the reality is, is your money, right? It was your hide that said, I'm gonna be, you know, man in America, and I'm gonna make a difference, and I'm gonna tell people. And there are a handful others. It's kind of like how many lawyers were on this side? On our side, was about a hundred.
Todd Callender:I think it was about a hundred people just like you that did not shrink, and it is by your efforts. You invalidated the official version of everything. You've made conspiracy into the real world, which is simply conspiracy. That phrase, they add the theory part on there wrong. It's just a great giant conspiracy.
Todd Callender:You've made that now into something, a word that can be used again. And it cannot be understated the importance of this, just the willingness to stand, the willingness to say no, the willingness to be unafraid, to find that courage is what makes us human. Firemen running into a burning building, knowing full well that their life might be lost trying to save a dog, and they do it anyway. That's the human spirit. And that's what's so beautiful is that you've sparked this.
Todd Callender:You've been a part. Everybody that's been part participating in this, everybody that said no, Right? Despite the overwhelming odds that there were gonna be tanks in the street to force you to take these shots. That was the plan. And still people said no.
Todd Callender:That's the human spirit. Humanity is arising. It's beautiful.
Seth Holehouse:What it is is that's God in us. Our soul. It's creation. Things they don't believe in. It's what these satanic atheist creatures
Todd Callender:That's right.
Seth Holehouse:Don't have themselves. There's a good chance of that, but they don't believe it. Yeah. So it's almost like if you're going to war with your enemy, and your enemies got nukes, and you don't even believe in the power of nukes, you don't even believe that they exist because you're a nuke ish, whatever you want to call it, atheist version of someone who doesn't believe in nuclear technology.
Todd Callender:You know, and
Seth Holehouse:you're going up against them and all of sudden the enemy just, you know, starts dropping nukes on you. It's like, that's what we've got except it's not nukes. It's it's the power of God that's behind us. That's what it is. That's what it is.
Todd Callender:Look, brother, I have met so many people on this journey, yourself included. There's an interesting part that I would tell you that, you know, when we when we filed the lawsuit, we had so many thousands of people coming to our law firm for help from the services in particular, all of them save one that I can remember had a relationship with God. All of them that said no, who discerned it, had a relationship with God, And that struck me as being so astounding and overwhelming in many respects. And I think the other part that I've learned is people like yourself. I don't know because I've never asked you the question, but I suspect people that actually became leaders in saying no, they've all had near death experiences over and over and over again.
Todd Callender:And what that tells me is not only were we built for this time, made for this job, but but even when we should be dead, we're kept around to do this job. And I just I I want people to think about that very carefully because one of, you know, Lucifer's greatest weapons is, in fact, his only real weapon is deceit and convincing us that there is no God, convincing us that when this life is over, that's just the end of blackness. To scare us, that all of that is to scare us into compliance because when we don't fear death is when you find that courage. And that's why I think of all the service members who stood and said no, they all had a relationship with God. They didn't fear death.
Todd Callender:They feared what it would be like not to be connected to God. They feared what it would be like not to go and join him in heaven. And I think that's the cool part and the difference in helping others reestablish or find their relationship with God is our calling. And that's what this is about. Because at the end of the day, let us not forget the founding document of the United Nations was Lucifer Trust.
Todd Callender:This is the war for souls. This is Matthew thirteen thirty eight, harvest. It's the wheat and the tares. You my brother are wheat. It
Seth Holehouse:is interesting you mentioned that. And so I've personally never had a near death experience where I've, say, gotten a bad accident you know, died on the operating table and came back. But I can tell you that, you know, when I was 30, I lost my 33 year old brother. And it was, you know, to me, I hadn't grown up around death in that way. No one really close to me had died aside from being a grandparent, you know, when you're young, which happens.
Seth Holehouse:But in a and it was an about an eighteen month process. And I spent many, many months living in the hospital with him, taking care of him with his Sleeping in the lobby of the I had a I made a little corner of the lobby where I slept for about three months, because he needed twenty four hour care. And so we took shifts taking care
Todd Callender:of him. Oh, dear Lord.
Seth Holehouse:He went in, he went in with some breathing problems and everything. And they actually they mess things up. And they drained two liters of fluid from his chest cavity without realizing that that fluid was in his chest cavity because he had a tumor covering his heart and his left lung. They drained the fluid, his chest cavity collapsed on his heart and his left lung, put him into cardiac arrest, caused they said he would never wake up. But he did.
Seth Holehouse:Like they know, because he was about a thirty minute stroke by the time they got the ECMO hooked up, which is his external heart machine. And so, you know, and this was my my best friend. I mean, it was my my person my brother, but, you know, you're always close to your siblings, but this he was. He was the person that I was talking to daily. I mean, we actually there's a picture.
Seth Holehouse:You can only see it behind me in my studio, which is which is him. Him and I. And so going through that experience at being 30 years old and seeing this guy who was so healthy and so just an amazing person, lose his life and but also then living in the hospital and losing everything that was dear to me, I couldn't go off to go see a movie to try to pull myself out of it. I mean, it was it was like I was in a labor camp right beside it was and it was every day intensive seizures and you know, going to the ICU back and forth in the NICU. Mean, it was a crazy experience.
Seth Holehouse:But after he passed, I went through a time of really deep depression actually, like really, really struggled. And, but what really came out, you know, for me on the other side of that was just this feeling of like, he's still here. Like he That's He in heaven. He was a good person. He believed in God.
Seth Holehouse:And, and so it really left me with something where I realized that, one, that even if everything is taken away from me, which is how I felt at that point time period, my faith can't be taken away. Like, that's something that is inside of me that can never be taken away. It doesn't matter if I'm put into a concentration camp. It doesn't matter if I'm tortured. They can't take that away from me.
Seth Holehouse:But then the other aspect of it was just this realization that, well, like, whenever it's my time to go, whether I'm 30 or 33 or 53, whatever time it is, like, if if that's when God calls me back, like, that's a beautiful day. Right? Yeah. That's right. I get to go back.
Seth Holehouse:I get to go back to, like, my origin. I get to go back. And so then so what that's done is it's interesting because it's put me into a place where I don't really fear death. I don't fear the end. Don't.
Seth Holehouse:I mean, I'm worried for my family. And I hate to see my children suffer, etc. But for me personally, it's like, when it's my time to go. And it's like, okay, God, this is if you want me back now, then I'll come back. But if you don't want me back yet, I'm gonna spend every, every moment I can fighting on this earth for you.
Todd Callender:There you go. That's it. And thank you. Thank you for sharing. I mean, mean, that's really personal stuff.
Todd Callender:But it adds a lot of context to what it is we're talking about. And you're you're absolutely right. And there is no way to beat that. Right? If you are unafraid, there is no way to control you.
Todd Callender:And I think that's it. You know, that's the inspiration for humanity is to be unafraid. That's how they've controlled us for thousands of years. And that's why they've convinced us for thousands of years that, you know, that there is no heaven. And even even those who say, oh, yeah, there's a heaven, but you got to do these ritualistic things to get there.
Todd Callender:And if you don't do that just right, you don't pay me enough money, then that's not going to get you to heaven. The same control paradigm is there. It's a fear one. We have nothing to fear. We we are in a great giant school called life, and and we're here to learn.
Todd Callender:And when we don't learn lessons, they're repeated until we do learn them. And when we're done with this school, that's when we we go home. So I'm just I'm so enthusiastic to be here. For whatever reason, we were fortunate enough to be picked to be here at this time doing what it is we're doing, and it feels really good.
Seth Holehouse:And so one question for you, because I love just picking your brain and seeing how you think because what you what you do, which I appreciate is you you take all this information, but then you extrapolate into the future. And you say, okay, well, here's what could happen. And you're not on you don't come and make predictions and say, well, Trump will be back in office and in this month or you know, there's none of that. But it's more just logical reasoning, you pulling out information from everything you see. And so when we look forward, right now, we're in the election year.
Seth Holehouse:It's as you've talked about the the pandemic engine there, it's obviously failing like the little the gremlins went in there and threw wrenches into the gears. Right? Know, you and I and many others were in there, you know, like scraping up the gears and, you know, breaking the teeth off and the engines ground to a halt. But now, as I mentioned, like, I pulled up the the lead the world behind, right? There's this pretty programming
Todd Callender:of that's right
Seth Holehouse:war of chaos in America. And I feel like that's their only option left.
Todd Callender:It is. That's the nuclear holocaust.
Seth Holehouse:True, but even that seems to be failing. They can't get Putin to press the button. Keep poking the bear, he won't press the button. So now they're on the civil war.
Todd Callender:Well, it's a little truth. So we'll get to what it was you said is here. But you're absolutely right now. The latest one is is Sweden joining NATO is gonna cause Vladimir to press the button. And and by the way, the Iranians, God bless you, Persians too, by the way, because you were being used to force us into a nuclear war.
Todd Callender:And and even the Persians said, no, we're not doing that. That's that's the power of no. That's the power of humanity. So I very much appreciate what you said about the pandemic engine. So I'm going to give you the benefit of my crystal ball, as they call it.
Todd Callender:And you're absolutely right. Like, this is not rocket science. This is just thinking through the permutations of things that we know. Right? These are not speculative things.
Todd Callender:We know things now, and we've been right about all of it. Why? Because these crazy people, these psychopaths actually documented everything with scientific papers, so we weren't speculating anyway. The way this turns out is exactly what you see around you now, and that is there is going be a civil war. There is no heart.
Todd Callender:There's no interest in a civil war, and there's going to be an election come hell or high water, and people are going to make that happen because they've resolved to do it. So even though there was a pandemic already declared a Marburg pandemic, even though they will turn up the five g or try to make people bleed out of their orifices, scare everybody into the shots, people now know there are treatments, Fenbendazole, Albendazole, blah blah blah, that our government's been hiding, and people are figuring this stuff out. Methylane blue and vitamin C and all these things are counteracting the weapons they used against us, the bioweapons. People have already figured this out. So they already know that those people coming across the border, right, they were designed to come in and cause a civil war to cause problems.
Todd Callender:But what we're starting to see is those people are going home. They went home for Christmas. So it's it's not working. Humanity has understood now what this is all really about. The pandemic isn't going to work.
Todd Callender:They know it's not going to work, and so they're scratching their heads trying to figure out what's going to happen. They gave themselves till 12/29/2029 to depopulate this planet. Why? I'm not entirely sure, but that's what they gave themselves, and by 2025, according to the NASA Legally Research Center, all these horrible things would be in place already, including board, home of board genesis, and it's not working. So this is going to be the year we take our planet back.
Todd Callender:And even if the government, which is full of people who have no oath of office, they're not really a government. They're just people acting like that. Even if they say officially, it doesn't mean anything. There's no election really. Well, we're going to have one anyway.
Todd Callender:Get out of the way. And it's elections are local, Right? The federal government doesn't regulate elections. States regulate elections. And the states are saying we've had enough of this.
Todd Callender:We're not going with your program. And and you know what? The clerks in the counties have woken up to say, oh, all those computers? Sorry, we're gonna have to do paper ballots. That actually happened the last time around.
Todd Callender:Some of the clerks turned off the computers and said, we're not doing that, and they issued paper ballots. You want to know my crystal ball? That's my crystal ball is we all demand paper ballots, not for the purpose of having an election in the traditional sense. It's for purpose of showing those who seek to be in power, those acting in power. We know.
Todd Callender:And by the way, this guy, whoever that may be, is who we're putting there because he ain't you. That's what's going to happen this year. If it doesn't happen beforehand, one way or another, that's happening, and that's happening this year because we've had enough and the tide has changed, and we are going to retake those levers of power. Those tools are already in front of us. The legal tools are placed.
Todd Callender:Courts exist. Prosecutions exist. Jails exist. We already have the apparatus to hold these people accountable. It's all there.
Todd Callender:All we gotta do is use it. This is the year we use it.
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Seth Holehouse:And but if you look at the mechanisms of how they implement these campaigns, whether it was COVID, whether it was their, you know, pandemic two point o, civil war, there's there's certain principles that they have to have in place. There's certain milestones. And the way I look at it, a lot of these milestones have to do with the the group psychology, the control of the masses. And so if you look at the leave the world behind movie, which I'm not sure if you've seen it, I actually recommend it. No.
Seth Holehouse:It was it produced by the by Michelle and Barack Obama.
Todd Callender:And You knew about the the infrasonic waves they put in that, I assume.
Seth Holehouse:Oh, yeah. Yeah. They talk about that microwave, you know, brains and causing radiation. I mean, it's a great red pill video. I mean, obviously, there's some some woke stuff in it, but it's a great video to show your friends and family and say, hey.
Seth Holehouse:This is why we need to prepare. Right? And and I did a whole show on it, and and folks can go watch it.
Todd Callender:I missed that. I gotta I gotta watch it.
Seth Holehouse:Oh, you really should. But what's interesting is that they towards the end of the movie, they reveal the fundamentals of what's happening. And they they refer to it as this this three step process that basically they use to collapse a country. And so there's a few aspects of it, right? But in there, because they're telling us their formula.
Seth Holehouse:But part of it is is actually massive division. Right? Do you create a society that's so divided, but then also so confused. It's it's confusion and division, and then chaos, which then makes people turn against each other. And so if you think about that, how they have to have these pillars of confusion and division existing up, and not just with a small part of the population with a large part of the population for them to be able to achieve civil war.
Seth Holehouse:What we're doing is actually undoing those two pillars of confusion and division. Because when this attempt comes to try to bring us into civil war, if enough people in America, a say, woah, I'm not gonna fight my neighbor. Like the the the deep states, the enemy, the communist, the enemy is not my neighbor.
Todd Callender:That's If
Seth Holehouse:enough people which is that's why it's such a major message of what we're doing here with man in America. If enough people can say, I'm not gonna feed into that division. But also, if enough people can say, I'm not confused about this because I saw this on Man in America. They they talked about what would happen, or I saw this, I heard this from my friend or whatever it is. So if enough people aren't confused either, and they know what's going on, and they know, okay, hey, they're trying to push us into civil war, we're gonna stay calm, we're gonna unite as communities, we're gonna help our neighbor, regardless of what their sexual orientation, their political views, etc.
Seth Holehouse:I think that just like they're I think they've failed to launch epidemic two point o that what they're gonna see is a failure of this civil war plan, because they don't control enough people, they've lost control of the masses. And therefore, they've lost the ability to implement their plans to destroy America. And therefore, that will be their last move. It's going to fail. And then I think as you mentioned, we will take back America, we will take back this planet, and like this is their endgame.
Todd Callender:This is the endgame, and they've lost it already. Boy, you said some really important things in there. As it relates to division, you couldn't be more right, chaos included. You know, division and what it causes all arises from fear. We as herd animals, if there was a new animal on the horizon, we didn't know if it was good or bad, it might kill us, it might not.
Todd Callender:But we were born and genetically designed to have fear of the unknown. That's also what makes us afraid to die. The unknown, except we know there's life afterwards. For those of us that know, we know. But it's the fear of unknown.
Todd Callender:And so our government has abused people in so many ways, including using atrazine and other chemicals to make people to screw with their endocrine system and make them, for instance, feel like they are the opposite sex or whatever the case may be transgender or Lord knows 13 or 51 or whatever it is, different types of genders. Talk about confused. All of this is absolutely part of the playbook, undoubtedly. You know, we already saw this before the result of it, by the way. They did this to Ukraine between 02/2012 and 02/2014.
Todd Callender:That's how they destroyed Ukraine, and that's how they put the puppet guy in, just what they're trying to do to The United States. What I'm trying to say in all of this is they don't control fear anymore. We've lost our fear, which means they've lost control, and we don't fear transgender people anymore. You know, that's like the biggest backfiring this whole thing. Like, nobody cares.
Todd Callender:I mean, seriously, if somebody has a sexual preference or transgender, cares. It doesn't have that effect. We're not afraid of them. And nobody's going out, you know, causing problems for transgender people because nobody cares. So I think that on a grander scale, nobody cares what color you are anymore.
Todd Callender:None of that matters. And so that division is gone. And that means that they have already lost because when they lost control of our fear, they've lost control of us.
Seth Holehouse:I couldn't agree more. And couldn't agree more also that I think fear is their weapon. Like, that's what it boils down to. Because I would it's, know, I do a lot of these reawaken tours. And one of the most common T shirts you see is this image.
Seth Holehouse:It's faith over fear. And that's what it is. It's like what we talked about earlier. What did I talk about? What have these servicemen talked about?
Seth Holehouse:They've they've been they've been near death. They've been shot at. They've calms go off. Lost limbs and they I think that they've got to where they probably don't fear death. And if you don't fear death, then what else is there to fear?
Seth Holehouse:And that's the thing is I think there's a lot of people that are actually bringing in faith over fear. There's this there's this revival happening in America. It's like we got pushed to the brink of darkness. And instead of just walking over the edge and falling down that cliff, we said, Woah, there's a cliff there. And we're close to falling down it.
Seth Holehouse:Like, let's go the other way towards the light. And that's what we're seeing this mass awakening happening.
Todd Callender:That's beautiful. It is. It's humanity's spirit arising. It's that what I've said, where we're watching the the fireman running into a burning building to save the dog because that's what humanity does when we're pushed to our limits, when all of the chips are down, that little spirit in us, that one that God sparked when we were conceived, that's the one that makes us a human. That's the one that drives us to do completely irrational things, but we do it out of love.
Todd Callender:And that is the power, right? It's just the opposite of fear. And it's just the opposite of hatred is love. So I see that a lot. I see people actually expressing that to each other more often.
Todd Callender:Hey, I love you, man. You know, it happens all the time. And I also hear and I try to say as much as I can, God bless you. And I mean that. And I see others doing the same.
Todd Callender:We don't all have to have the same belief. Precisely. What we have to do is believe in our Creator, and that God gave us a soul. And that's for us to graduate the school called life and rejoin Him at some point.
Seth Holehouse:And that love that compassion like that's our nuclear bomb. They don't have the enemy doesn't have that. They don't even believe in it, which makes them so weak when we pull it out.
Todd Callender:Yeah, that's right. And that the coolest part of it all is that's that's really the most important thing we can do is express love and and stick to our principles. I guess that's the other part of the chaos thing that you talk about. You know, the owners of this world, their motto is Ordo Abcow, order from chaos. So they've been trying their little best to create chaos that we would abandon our government, that we would flood across the borders, going the other way, that, you know, that this chaos would have the civil war as you describe it, and they sure as heck primed the pumps.
Todd Callender:Boy, they really did set it up for this. The predictive programming at all. And nobody showed up to their civil war. We're gonna have a war today. Okay.
Todd Callender:Good luck with that.
Seth Holehouse:You'll see a bunch of feds dressed up.
Todd Callender:Exactly right. I mean, and that also that that too, Seth. Look, they they these evil people will use any situation to their benefit. Even that where now the public has come to understand, holy cow, January 6 was an insurrection because the other guy's doing it, setting up the American people to get punished. You were there, so you got to go to jail.
Todd Callender:Right? Talk about, you know, totalitarianism, dictatorship, the worst kind of egregious things. People are sitting in jail for twenty four years because they went to their building that they paid for. And yet, right, and yet they haven't turned us against our people in blue. We know there are good cops out there.
Todd Callender:We know it's a handful of them doing evil things. And I think the other part that's happening is even those people are starting to question themselves. We saw this really after the Germans, World War II, theoretically lost the war, but the soldiers said, I can't believe I was part of this. And I think that's what we're seeing now, too. You know, guns and badges and the people in uniform have have understood this.
Todd Callender:There is no putting this genie back in the bottle. Truth has escaped. The truth shall set you free as it's stated in the Bible.
Seth Holehouse:That's it. And that's where we're at. Well, I think this is such a good message to end on. So do you have any final thoughts or words for people as we sign off? What is that?
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Todd Callender:Well, that's my personal pledge. We took the company over last year, and I I took over the CEO job for this very reason, is we will not bend. We're going to make sure people have the ability to speak their mind, speak the truth, and by the way, we added to that the ability to speak it in many all languages because we are eliminating the gatekeepers of truth.
Seth Holehouse:And I have to say, I trust you at least a little more than I trust Elon Musk, if not a lot more.
Todd Callender:Thank you for that. Thank you for that. I don't know I don't know him. I like what I'm seeing out of him these days, and we don't have a monopoly on this. There's no monopoly on truth.
Todd Callender:There's no monopoly on humanity. Come one, come all. Come on, Elon, brother, I'll collaborate with you. This is about humanity.
Seth Holehouse:Well, Todd, thank you. It's always such a pleasure to have you. I really enjoy it. And thank you so much for being here. Thank you for bringing this message and this this this exciting energy to things.
Seth Holehouse:It's really important for us to have this coming this year.
Todd Callender:Yeah, it is. It's a new day. So thank you for having me, Seth. And again, God bless you for all that you do, brother. I
Seth Holehouse:really mean that. Folks, I have a quick message for you. Look, the twenty twenty four election is do or die for the globalist and communists that have infiltrated our country and are currently running it. And they either have to win or they're going to destroy America so nothing is left either way. And if you're the person that's watching this show and following this information, unfortunately, you have the weight on your shoulders of making sure that your family is prepared, especially as we head in to this next year in this next election cycle because unfortunately, I think it's gonna get rough.
Seth Holehouse:And one of the ways I know they're going to target us is through our food supply. You can see all the food factories burned down, you can see the warnings of coming famines and food shortages and everything like that. And food is one of the number one ways totalitarian regimes have always used to control the populations destroy the food supply. So if you don't have at least two, three, four, five, six months worth of stored food, I highly recommend you take that very seriously. Because look, as I mentioned, if you're the person that's watching this, you're the person that carries the burden of making sure your family is prepared.
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