Life22: Administrator & Protector (Day 13,764)

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Day 13,764 - Administrator & Protector.mp3
Transcript
00:00:07 Kevin
Hey gang, Kevin here, Life 22, and it is a beautiful, cooling, it's a melting, it's definitely thawing outside.
00:00:18 Kevin
Tomorrow's supposed to be some nice 50 degree weather, which, hey, all right, goodbye all you snow, expect flooding, yada, yada, but you didn't come here for the weather report.
00:00:27 Kevin
You came here because I'm Kevin, and a lot of times I rant, the last 2 1/2 months I've been sober during these rants.
00:00:36 Kevin
And there hasn't been a ton of rants.
00:00:38 Kevin
I'm ramping up the rants.
00:00:40 Kevin
But you're also probably thinking, well, it's getting close to Christmas time.
00:00:44 Kevin
You can probably hear church bells in the background because it is, they don't even, the church bells go off every like, you know, 7 minutes.
00:00:52 Kevin
I don't think they actually are on an hour or 15 minute increment or 20 or 10.
00:00:57 Kevin
So, but regardless, it's getting close to the holidays.
00:01:00 Kevin
The church bells are ringing.
00:01:02 Kevin
And a lot of you are thinking back to like two years ago, and 'twas the night before, the night before Christmas, and all through the district, not a student was safe.
00:01:19 Kevin
But I know a lot of you are thinking, oh, man, he's going after Jeff.
00:01:25 Kevin
And no, surprise you, I'm not going after Jeff.
00:01:29 Kevin
And I've actually had a lot of...
00:01:31 Kevin
A lot of you guys are probably out there going, oh, great, he's going to defend Jeff.
00:01:35 Kevin
Well, yeah, I am.
00:01:39 Kevin
Me and Jeff have **** heads over the years.
00:01:41 Kevin
I actually spoke to a couple people, and I know a lot of you were like, oh, I already read this about this in the Times Herald.
00:01:45 Kevin
Did you?
00:01:46 Kevin
Did you read all of it?
00:01:48 Kevin
I know the Only in Star released something, too.
00:01:53 Kevin
And they're just...
00:01:56 Kevin
they're gathering, they're releasing stuff when they've gathered all the evidence.
00:02:00 Kevin
And I don't think they've gathered all the evidence.
00:02:02 Kevin
I don't think they can gather all the evidence, the same way that I haven't.
00:02:06 Kevin
But I wanted to let the kind of the dust settle a little bit to a degree a few days later.
00:02:10 Kevin
And I know I'm late to the punch on releasing the news that you probably already aware of, but it's not that.
00:02:16 Kevin
It's my take that you're here for.
00:02:18 Kevin
And we all know that.
00:02:19 Kevin
That's why you're all here.
00:02:20 Kevin
It's Kevin's take.
00:02:23 Kevin
But also,
00:02:25 Kevin
I have kids in the district.
00:02:26 Kevin
I hear things.
00:02:27 Kevin
I know people in the district.
00:02:29 Kevin
I hear things that you normally wouldn't hear.
00:02:32 Kevin
I foil for things that nobody ever knows that Kevin foils for.
00:02:35 Kevin
It's so funny how people don't like, people don't think that I send in requests.
00:02:44 Kevin
But I was speaking with somebody the other day, today actually,
00:02:52 Kevin
And it was funny because he said the same thing that I was already thinking.
00:02:56 Kevin
And my wife has already been thinking the whole time.
00:02:59 Kevin
It's like, yeah, but Jeff was always, I don't know, because he used to give us in school suspension, right?
00:03:07 Kevin
He used to give, he used to, he used to, he was the disciplinarian.
00:03:10 Kevin
When I was in school, Jeff was the assistant principal.
00:03:14 Kevin
And he was the one doling out the punishments and dealing with the headaches.
00:03:21 Kevin
right?
00:03:23 Kevin
I want to say, but when I was in high school, there was like 3 total fights, like in the entire school.
00:03:31 Kevin
There were like 3 total fights.
00:03:33 Kevin
One involved the captain of the football team on prom night, and then like the next day, that entire like kid's family showed up at the school to beat him up.
00:03:44 Kevin
And one of the fights I was in, because
00:03:50 Kevin
A guy came towards me in the hallway, and I struck him because I felt threatened.
00:03:56 Kevin
He would come at me quite often, and me and him have since made amends, and I haven't talked to him in a few years, but we're very cordial now.
00:04:03 Kevin
But it was funny because I was grabbed by the ear by one of the teachers.
00:04:08 Kevin
I can't remember her name.
00:04:09 Kevin
I think she was a science teacher.
00:04:10 Kevin
I got grabbed by her ear.
00:04:12 Kevin
Oh, no, she was a history teacher.
00:04:13 Kevin
I got grabbed by her.
00:04:14 Kevin
She grabbed me by my ear and dragged me and Small Paul down to the office.
00:04:20 Kevin
And we had to go wait and talk to Jeff.
00:04:22 Kevin
And Jeff told a lot of punishment.
00:04:24 Kevin
And I didn't think my punishment was fair because mine was in self-defense.
00:04:27 Kevin
If someone's coming at you in an aggressive manner and you, even though you strike first, it's still considered self-defense.
00:04:32 Kevin
But that's when you, know, that was a different era.
00:04:36 Kevin
That was when the school district was, you know, there is no self-defense in school.
00:04:42 Kevin
You are supposed to lay there and wait for someone else to defend you, which would usually be an administrator.
00:04:49 Kevin
So
00:04:50 Kevin
I think my wife got enough detentions and in-school suspensions for smoking on school grounds or, smoking in the girls' room or whatever.
00:04:58 Kevin
And, it was just one of those things.
00:04:59 Kevin
Like a lot of us just had run-ins with Jeff over the years, and, we all turned out fine.
00:05:07 Kevin
But we hold that animosity to a degree, right?
00:05:10 Kevin
And then, we get older and some of us don't see Jeff ever again, and they still hold that animosity.
00:05:16 Kevin
And it's easy to hold animosity against somebody who isn't your family, right?
00:05:19 Kevin
So when your parents discipline you, they're your parents, right?
00:05:21 Kevin
They're your older siblings, they're your younger siblings, they're your uncles or your aunts.
00:05:25 Kevin
They're somebody you have to love and care about, right?
00:05:30 Kevin
as part of your family unit.
00:05:31 Kevin
So you're more reluctant to give any grace to a person whose job it is to be the school disciplinarian, to discipline students when they violate rules and codes of conduct.
00:05:45 Kevin
So that aside, you know, years later, I served with Jeff's wife, Kelly, on the Common Council, and
00:05:55 Kevin
we still remain very cordial.
00:05:57 Kevin
I still like, in the back of my head, my emotional intelligence, I still like, but he was a douche in high school, right?
00:06:04 Kevin
Like, and that's something I just got to get over.
00:06:07 Kevin
And that's me.
00:06:08 Kevin
And that's a lot of people.
00:06:10 Kevin
It's a lot of people.
00:06:10 Kevin
And that's, and so all this building to the fact that, you know, just because
00:06:22 Kevin
Jeff was a douche when I was in high school.
00:06:24 Kevin
At least that's how I saw it, from my side of the fence, right?
00:06:26 Kevin
From Jeff's side of the fence, that was his job.
00:06:30 Kevin
And so you can't be faulted for, like, if your job is to keep the students in order and create, you know, law and order within the school district, if that is your, if you're the executive branch, if you're administering the rules and the codes of conduct, you can't fault somebody for that.
00:06:45 Kevin
And that's something I have to get over.
00:06:48 Kevin
and my wife and the people that I talked to that went to high school with that had run-ins with them.
00:06:53 Kevin
people have their beefs.
00:06:54 Kevin
Was Jeff, was Jeff stern?
00:06:57 Kevin
Was he what you would call now toxically masculine?
00:07:00 Kevin
Yeah, but I get called toxically masculine.
00:07:02 Kevin
So people like that can go kick rocks.
00:07:05 Kevin
Jeff was stern because he had to be.
00:07:09 Kevin
And I know that there's been a whole series of like rumors and past incidents in the last, what, like half decade.
00:07:22 Kevin
Do people argue with their co-workers?
00:07:24 Kevin
Do they do they get in screaming matches in parking lots?
00:07:28 Kevin
Like, yeah.
00:07:29 Kevin
But if you were to say, like, Jeff's jerk because he yelled at one of the teachers or something like that, because I know that happened a couple years ago and people talked about it and there's rumors circulating.
00:07:41 Kevin
And I don't know all the details on that one.
00:07:43 Kevin
But
00:07:47 Kevin
Just because you don't like somebody or they suspended you in high school does not mean that you should be celebrating something that they're unjustly accused of.
00:07:58 Kevin
And that's why I'm here.
00:08:03 Kevin
That's why I'm here, because none of these facts are going to get out there.
00:08:07 Kevin
And like we all know it, Jeff's career is probably over.
00:08:14 Kevin
they're going to probably force him into an early retirement because you don't really recover from this because it's a PR nightmare for the state.
00:08:21 Kevin
And even though Jeff is most likely innocent, like I said, I haven't seen the surveillance photo, the footage.
00:08:29 Kevin
I've talked to, you know, dozens of people that have seen it and every single one of them concur on the footage itself.
00:08:43 Kevin
And then there is like, areas that aren't part of the excopatory evidence.
00:08:50 Kevin
So that is still foilable.
00:08:54 Kevin
And then I also have, like I said, I have, I have students, I have kids in the district.
00:08:58 Kevin
And that's also, that's the tail end of this is what my real point is building towards and how actions have consequences.
00:09:06 Kevin
right?
00:09:07 Kevin
And then what you as a community member or even a parent in the district should be looking forward to moving forward because of, we can call this, what would you call this?
00:09:21 Kevin
You would call this a precedence.
00:09:30 Kevin
It's A precedence.
00:09:33 Kevin
So with the precedents like this, when you set something, right?
00:09:37 Kevin
So from interviews and discussions and probably doing more homework than at least the Times-Herald, I know for sure, has.
00:09:53 Kevin
The assistant, so what happened on the day in question is that
00:10:00 Kevin
And if you read the comments on Facebook, I can tell you that like 95% of what people are spouting are incorrect.
00:10:08 Kevin
And when I say there's 5%, it's like, yes, there was Jeff and then there was a kid and that's about it.
00:10:14 Kevin
Jeff and a kid had an incident and that's it.
00:10:17 Kevin
Like that out of all the stuff, like people putting their hands on their throats, people putting, you know, the kid just minding his own business.
00:10:26 Kevin
And there's a lot of this nowadays.
00:10:29 Kevin
But
00:10:31 Kevin
this kid who is quite a large kid, like not just like he's not just he's a fat kid or something.
00:10:40 Kevin
No, he is a just a like he is well-built kid.
00:10:45 Kevin
I believe he's on the football team from what I've gathered.
00:10:50 Kevin
And for fighting and for fighting, this kid is on the football team and for fighting
00:10:57 Kevin
He is suspended 2 games into next year's season already because of fighting.
00:11:04 Kevin
He was suspended for this season from what I've gathered, and now two games into next year's for fighting.
00:11:10 Kevin
So you have to take past history.
00:11:13 Kevin
Now, I don't know what causes a kid to fight or lash out.
00:11:17 Kevin
I just know that the kid is built for football.
00:11:19 Kevin
He's like 2 1/4, 250 pounds.
00:11:24 Kevin
He's a big kid.
00:11:26 Kevin
And that's, something that works in your favor later on in life when you need to lift things and do great things and play football and do stuff.
00:11:38 Kevin
But so there were, I guess there was an altercation in the hallway and the assistant principal had separated the two.
00:11:50 Kevin
Obviously, the one, the aggressor being the kid in question.
00:11:55 Kevin
was beating up on a kid that was significantly smaller, which if you're a 250-pound kid in high school, I mean, it's not, odds are that almost every kid is going to be significantly smaller than you.
00:12:07 Kevin
So that's not saying a lot, but he was, he was using his weight to his advantage, and he was like putting, he was the aggressor and putting a beating on this kid.
00:12:16 Kevin
So, you know, the assistant or the vice principal did what he was supposed to do and separated the two kids.
00:12:23 Kevin
And one goes, one goes in one office, one goes in another.
00:12:29 Kevin
And Jeff was notified across the school district, like from where he was elsewhere in the building.
00:12:36 Kevin
And he was, okay, I'm on my way.
00:12:41 Kevin
And so from that point, I guess the aggressor, the kid in question is getting irate.
00:12:50 Kevin
Like,
00:12:52 Kevin
Screw this.
00:12:52 Kevin
I'm out of here.
00:12:53 Kevin
I'm leaving.
00:12:54 Kevin
I got to get to class, what have you.
00:12:57 Kevin
And he leaves the one office, tries, and then he's in like a common office at that point, and he tries to leave.
00:13:07 Kevin
And people are like, you can't leave.
00:13:09 Kevin
You need to, you know, we have an incident.
00:13:12 Kevin
We need to discuss this.
00:13:14 Kevin
Call your parents, what have you.
00:13:18 Kevin
I believe from what I gather, like the schools are supposed to have an SRO.
00:13:21 Kevin
He was out doing, running errands because that's, I mean, like that's what they do now, right?
00:13:27 Kevin
They're partially truancy officers.
00:13:28 Kevin
And I'm not faulting the SRO for getting an assignment from the school district.
00:13:32 Kevin
And, you know, can you deliver this certified mail or drop off a laptop?
00:13:35 Kevin
I know they do that because they have downtime and stuff when school's not in session.
00:13:39 Kevin
But I guess he wasn't on site at this point.
00:13:42 Kevin
And as
00:13:46 Kevin
The student was getting irate and attempting to leave the office.
00:13:50 Kevin
I don't know.
00:13:55 Kevin
Jeff was entering back in, hearing bits and pieces of why he had to come back into the office, but not knowing what was going on 100% just coming in.
00:14:04 Kevin
And there is a large kid trying to leave and other people are gesturing that he should not be leaving.
00:14:10 Kevin
And then the kid pushed Jeff.
00:14:15 Kevin
And
00:14:19 Kevin
apparently Jeff pushed the kid back.
00:14:22 Kevin
The kid's arms went up, I believe, when he was being pushed back.
00:14:26 Kevin
And Jeff bear hugged him.
00:14:30 Kevin
From the video footage, from what I hear, you cannot, there is no, there is no even like moment where hands are going up to a throat, where hands are going anywhere than a bear hug.
00:14:42 Kevin
He is a massive kid.
00:14:44 Kevin
You will need to
00:14:45 Kevin
restrain him.
00:14:46 Kevin
If you keep your head down, this is what they teach us in jiu-jitsu.
00:14:50 Kevin
You keep your head down.
00:14:51 Kevin
So if the kid starts striking you, what's he going to do?
00:14:53 Kevin
He's going to hit the back of your head.
00:14:54 Kevin
You hold in tight and you restrain the kid because he's trying to leave.
00:14:59 Kevin
Now, also during this time period, it is between classes.
00:15:05 Kevin
And between classes, people are, there's hundreds of kids in the hallway, right?
00:15:10 Kevin
It's Gen.
00:15:11 Kevin
pop, right?
00:15:12 Kevin
You have a very angry
00:15:15 Kevin
And so if you're Jeff and you're trying to make heads or tails of this and you're just getting like, maybe you get bits and pieces of the details as you're rushing from wherever you were in the building to come help assist with this situation.
00:15:28 Kevin
Before it even got to a, like, you know, this kid is now irate again.
00:15:33 Kevin
He just got into a fight.
00:15:34 Kevin
He has a past history of aggression.
00:15:37 Kevin
He's showing aggression.
00:15:38 Kevin
And he's,
00:15:45 Kevin
He is, like there's other students in the hallway.
00:15:49 Kevin
Is Jeff aware at this time that the other student is in the other office?
00:15:55 Kevin
Is that student at the nurse's office?
00:15:57 Kevin
Jeff is just arriving.
00:15:58 Kevin
So he, does he know?
00:16:01 Kevin
Who knows, right?
00:16:07 Kevin
But this uncertainty is, he trying to go get that other student?
00:16:10 Kevin
Is he, could he go out in the hallway and
00:16:15 Kevin
And this is, these are things that he is charged with.
00:16:22 Kevin
He's charged with the safety and well-being of all the students in the building being the principal of that facility.
00:16:31 Kevin
And that's a big responsibility.
00:16:39 Kevin
And so if one student is threatening other students, like your job,
00:16:45 Kevin
is to make decisions, and they're on the fly sometimes.
00:16:49 Kevin
And the decision to protect the other students by keeping this kid in the office and trying to calm him down, but right now it's pretty high rate.
00:17:08 Kevin
So we have to get him to a state where he is not irate.
00:17:10 Kevin
We have to get him to a state where he is like,
00:17:14 Kevin
in a spot, then they can, reach out and talk to his mother and discuss with, whoever.
00:17:23 Kevin
the other kid should be able to press charges.
00:17:24 Kevin
know what I mean?
00:17:25 Kevin
He was whooping on him.
00:17:26 Kevin
He was an aggressor.
00:17:27 Kevin
These are the different things that come into account.
00:17:32 Kevin
So Jeff Bear hugs him.
00:17:35 Kevin
They get, you know, obviously the situation kind of de-escalates relatively quickly when the kid is
00:17:43 Kevin
Kind of some dude, right?
00:17:44 Kevin
Like you're getting a bear hug.
00:17:45 Kevin
Like Jeff's not a huge guy.
00:17:47 Kevin
I want to say this kid probably outweighs Jeff, but Jeff is stocky.
00:17:51 Kevin
So he's short and he's probably deceivingly heavier than he would look just because he is shorter.
00:17:56 Kevin
But he is a stocky guy and I'm sure he's got a lot of muscle under there and he can probably, you know, get a good bear hug in and restrain a student.
00:18:06 Kevin
It's not, it's probably not like largely in his job description.
00:18:10 Kevin
But, it is something that you have to do when you are charged with the protection of the other students in the building.
00:18:21 Kevin
From FOIL requests and questioning and other things and talking to students I know that go to the school, students that I have that go to the school, things like that.
00:18:38 Kevin
Apparently, they notify the parents.
00:18:42 Kevin
I believe the mother came in.
00:18:43 Kevin
They, discussed the situation.
00:18:46 Kevin
It was very apologetic.
00:18:50 Kevin
There's footage to confirm this.
00:18:51 Kevin
I'm obviously waiting on it to be presented.
00:18:59 Kevin
And very apologetic, you know, and I know
00:19:05 Kevin
that that'll also be used, hey, I saw the footage, because obviously when the parents come in, they ask, they pretty much bring the parents up to speed.
00:19:14 Kevin
That's what they did when, I was in high school.
00:19:16 Kevin
Like, I don't know why they wouldn't, in a scenario like this.
00:19:21 Kevin
And, I'm so sorry that my son did this and yada yada.
00:19:26 Kevin
My issue is when within less than an hour,
00:19:35 Kevin
of this mother, leaving the school, taking her son, and going to the police department.
00:19:47 Kevin
Like, if you're super apologetic, and then you're, you know, I'm sorry that my son acts this way, I'm sorry that he did this, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, and then you immediately go to the police department when you've kind of admitted fault, or, you know, you're admitting fault on behalf of your son,
00:20:04 Kevin
And then you file a police report and file charges against the administrator who was trying to protect the other students. And the charges that were pressed against Jeff are like class 2 harassment, which you're stretching. You're really stretching on what he was actually charged with from
00:20:34 Kevin
like the statutory minimums in which you can allow to press charges, right? Because they are kind of unfounded and you're stretching to get them. And that's why this podcast is probably going to go on for a while, because the statutory claims, from what I gathered, the minimum is like, you know, forming to harass, annoy, you know, different things like that. is not why Jeff restrained the student.
00:21:02 Kevin
It was not to intimidate. It was not this or that. It was to de-escalate a situation that there was no law enforcement, no other authority in the room that was able or willing to handle. And Jeff was the next best thing. And the students should have been glad to have him. And I'm sure a lot of them are, not the ones that get in trouble for needing to be disciplined. But
00:21:32 Kevin
so they, he was arrested on a very loose interpretation of that statutory, like minimum standard that has to be met for harassment, not choking, not obstructing an airway. these are the different charges. There's a lot of rumors out there that Janelle Morris, the superintendent,
00:22:01 Kevin
is using this to oust Jeff, because Jeff is, more, he's more conservative and Republican, leaning, where Janelle is, left-leaning liberal and,
00:22:20 Kevin
And that's actually not true. From all available metrics, I've never spoken to Janelle, but of all available metrics from people that know all parties involved and deal with the administration and deal with Janelle and deal with Jeff, Janelle appreciates Jeff's ability to run the facility the way that he can. And that's why a lot of people actually, as much as everybody gripes that we pay Janelle too much money, she
00:22:49 Kevin
We could have a lot worse of superintendents. In the past we have. I'm sure in the future we will. But she lets the one compliment that a lot of people have given were that she lets her administrators administer to their facilities. She lets each one of them, she delegates. It's their building, she lets them run it.
00:23:11 Kevin
She oversees, keeps and checks, provides guidance, and that's what a good leader does. So, I'm not going to fault Janelle on that, and I want to dispel that rumor. I don't believe that Janelle was even going to, you know, formally, like, discipline him. Why would she? He was doing something that, you know, that, you know, nobody else was doing, but it needed to be done, and she, you know,
00:23:40 Kevin
We want take charge leaders in your district. You want people that lead by example, people that the students can look up to and say, that's a leader. So that said, let's turn to the student a little bit. Obviously, he's under the age of 18. This is a free country. I can drop names if I'd like to, but I prefer not to.
00:24:06 Kevin
And that's why I also will not be, I'm sure any one of you can figure out who the mother and father are. And that's, I know the mother. I've dealt with her a few times through some of her prior employments. We've always been cordial. We've always gotten along. I don't have anything negative to say about her, other than, you know, a lot of this stuff that's coming to light, would I have done things differently, of course, but that's not, and I'm, you know,
00:24:32 Kevin
And I can't fault a lot of parents, especially single mother, especially single mothers in today's society. Like, should you be raising your kids in two-parent households? Yes.
00:24:45 Kevin
And we'll get into the father in just a minute, but if you're looking, and that's a reason that you can kind of like, but if you can't, if you can't keep it together because the father is a certain way or does certain things and it's not safe environment for the children, then you're a single mother because the children always come first.
00:25:15 Kevin
And what we've got is, and being that you're in a tough situation and the opportunity presents itself where like, wow, I've got to, if I swallow my pride and I turn tail on my words,
00:25:40 Kevin
and I just pressed charges, I might have a nice sizable lawsuit against the school district. And I could see somebody doing that and getting a fair bit of money out of the district by just running with a slightly altered narrative of what actually happened. And a lot of times school districts settle before they even go to court because they don't want the bad press. And you know who pays for that? Us taxpayers. And
00:26:09 Kevin
I can and I can't fault you for instinctively going that way, right? Like it takes a really strong person to just admit when they're wrong and then just live with the consequences, right? Like, hey, my son did something wrong. I am the inevitable keeper for my son. I am their caretaker. I'm the one raising them. And then just living with that consequence that your son got suspended and
00:26:40 Kevin
whatever. And instead it's like, my son's going to get out scot-free. And like I'm hearing rhetoric online that, these people, the parents are like, I don't know about the father, but the mother's saying things like, reminiscing about like it's similar to George Floyd. But it's by all available metrics, it's not. And I mean, if you want to
00:27:06 Kevin
I mean, I don't really want to go down the rabbit hole of George Floyd. Too many people listen to mainstream media and they're just like, oh yeah, that's where they just killed that guy. And it's like, well, they didn't kill that guy, but all right, I digress. So, but you also see great examples of where something happens and they set a precedence where they're going to attack the district, attack a municipality, and extort money out of them.
00:27:37 Kevin
for whatever they please. And they get, golden caskets and beautiful, just tons of GoFundMes and a lot of stuff. And I, it's tough to raise a kid today, but suing the district is not the way to do it. If you have a big problem with the district, you take your kids out, you homeschool.
00:28:05 Kevin
There are programs for that. There are volunteer organizations for that. There are plenty of things that you can do. And you may have to if your kid is as violent as this kid is showing a track record of doing. Now, the father, on the other hand, has a lot of, like, open stuff in our current judicial system. Like, there's a lot of, like,
00:28:34 Kevin
I want to say it was at least a year ago that I heard of this guy because he was arrested for guns and drugs. Like, that's the dad, And so, I mean, why is the kid angry? Why is the kid, why is the kid emotionally, like, decides to fly off the handle and start beating up other kids? Like, doesn't have a good father figure to look up to. His dad's, you know, dealing in a bad,
00:29:02 Kevin
industry. Now I've never met the dad. I just, maybe he's a great guy, but he sells some drugs and guns, and I don't know if I want to, associate. So maybe I'll never grab a coffee with that guy. But never say never, but it's late night. I went and got me some Timmies. So
00:29:24 Kevin
I'm trying to think where I want to go to next with this because there is still just a bit more to cover, and I'm sure we'll have follow-ups. So I was sent a screenshot. The Times Herald published their article, and there is an account called Jerry Theodore who posted. And it's an alias of somebody.
00:29:53 Kevin
because most of the people that are friends with this person online have no idea who they are. So Jerry posted this on the comment section of the Only in Times Herald, and it was removed. And from all available metrics, there's like maybe four people who have knowledge to some of the questions being asked, which will lead us to one of our last questions before we get into the final summation for parents.
00:30:27 Kevin
So, while not condoning the actions of the principal, a few things to be considered. The article might leave out a lot. I understand that the privacy of the student needs to be protected, and the school cannot comment on personnel matters, and there is an ongoing investigation, et cetera, et cetera.
00:30:50 Kevin
But do any of us know if this student was involved in a physical altercation with another student prior to the alleged confrontation with the principal? Do we know where the other student, do we know where the other student involved in the physical confrontation was within the school? I mean, if there was one and then a smirky :) and that's all in parentheses.
00:31:21 Kevin
Do we know if the student that the principal, quote unquote, put his hands on, was going to seek out the other student? Question mark. And these are all things we've already discussed and raised. Do we know if the student slash victim was amped up and emotional? Question mark. Right. So these are all things that go into course of Jeff's head, right? And
00:31:47 Kevin
We don't, this post was taken down. It had gotten screenshotted before it got taken down and we don't know which side took it down. Was it the, was it the, you know, alias account or was it the Times Herald? And the Times Herald is, I love how, quick side note, you can't, you can't have a contract, like I'm expecting comments. I'm expecting people to fire at me and question me and a little bit of backlash and what have you.
00:32:17 Kevin
But I expect that when I'm talking about controversial topics that affect our area. They affect the people that are in the district that are supervising my children. They're in the district. These are the people that we trust with our children. I should know who they are. I do know who they are. I should know if they're being falsely accused or if they're just being accused of a crime. I should know that. I should know all the circumstances leading up to an allegation
00:32:46 Kevin
They are the people that I am entrusting my children's safety with. And that is why I'm talking about these topics. In addition to everybody else out there that's rubbernecking and just wants to know what's going on. And most of them don't even have kids in the district. But my other concern is that the Times Herald will remove stuff like that. They'll just remove it. Well, it's too controversial. We don't want to talk about it. Well, guess what?
00:33:14 Kevin
You're reporting on news. You're reporting on controversial news, but you don't want to have anybody engage with it. Get out of here. So anyways, my love for the Times Herald. You can watch my YouTube channel, just type in Times Herald under our YouTube channel, and you'll just see just videos just bashing them because, you know, I have so much love for them. But I got to, you know, I got to wrap my fish somehow. Let's see here.
00:33:44 Kevin
Do we know if the student was amped up emotionally? Maybe, perhaps even likely. And do we think it would have been a good idea had he roamed freely amongst the halls? Not saying that all of this was the case, but do we know it wasn't? And then one of those scratching of your chin emojis with a question mark after it. Do we know the behavior record of the student?
00:34:14 Kevin
Some may say, does it matter, quote unquote. Where some might say, quote unquote, well it might, do we know the police chose to charge the principal? Do we know the police chose not to charge the principal and it was actually the DA, question mark.
00:34:35 Kevin
And that's getting us into the next part, which is very, very spicy and is something that was uncovered in the course of my investigation. So do we know said DA was fired by her predecessor, was fired by her, do we know said DA was fired by her predecessor, ran, was fired
00:35:04 Kevin
by her predecessor ran against him and then, I thought I had a second one. So anyways, let me sum this next part up because I don't have the second screenshot. I don't know where it went. Lori Rieman is the district attorney currently and on January 1st, well, you know, maybe she wasn't, maybe that's the part I'm, maybe I'm forgetting from the next screenshot.
00:35:38 Kevin
Lori Rieman's not running for district attorney again. She's just out. And it will be Ashley Smith. And we'll have more on that later in the show on a different date. But what this alias, Jerry Theodore, is pointing out is that before Lori Rieman
00:36:06 Kevin
leaves the county in her position as the district attorney, I believe it has to be voted on that she gets health insurance for life. She's not like a legislator, where if you're a legislator for so many terms, you get lifetime health insurance. And it was denied by
00:36:36 Kevin
the county chair, which is Jeff Andriano's wife, Kelly Andriano. She went on to become a county legislator and it was declined. And so it's funny that one of the final acts of Lori Rieman is to charge Jeffrey. And I just, it's too, it doesn't pass the smell test
00:37:05 Kevin
to be too coincidental, that the police department were looking at these charges that we've discussed earlier and said, this is not, this is a stretch to meet the minimum standards. If you know any of the police officers in Olean, if you know any of the investigators and the street crimes guys and any of these different people that work under the PD,
00:37:29 Kevin
more in the investigation side of things, that these guys are the ones like, what I mean, the higher up of the police department, they are not willy-nilly going to just charge people with like frivolous crimes and lag down the courts and lag down their OT on their budgets. Like their job is to do their job and do it well. And this is such a frivolous
00:37:54 Kevin
stretch on what meets the minimum standard for second-degree harassment or whatever he was charged with that meets this that meets this mark. And but who can who can override the police? The district attorney's office. And did the district attorney's office choose to do this? It appears so. And that's why
00:38:24 Kevin
Something I heard in politics during COVID, and I didn't like it, but people use it. Never waste a good crisis. So now you have this incident and people are crying George Floyd. And you've got Jeff's, Jeff in, you know,
00:38:51 Kevin
Jeff in a bind and people are getting ready to get the stockades out and get the guillotine sharpened up and whatnot and behead him. And why not? Why not help? Why not pour a little gasoline on the fire? Oh, it's just water, right? Because you've got a bone to pick because you didn't get free health insurance. You're going to ruin a man's life over free health insurance for yourself. How selfish.
00:39:21 Kevin
No love loss here. So I spoke with one of my children who goes to the high school. And she said, dad, if you're going to talk about any of this stuff, you need to talk about how this isn't the only fight that happened in the school. This isn't the only fights that happen. They happen all the time.
00:39:55 Kevin
We can't put actual criminals in jail. We have kids that aren't being raised in two-parent households. The moral fabric of our society is coming down around us. The school is a jungle. Fights happen every single day. Like I described earlier in this podcast, like three or four fights that I can remember the two years that I went to Olean after I moved here.
00:40:25 Kevin
and I graduated from Olian High.
00:40:27 Kevin
One of those fights was me, and I discussed that, right?
00:40:30 Kevin
And I'm sure that there was fights after school at Oak Hill Park, but they didn't take place on school grounds that often, not while Jeff was there.
00:40:40 Kevin
And if they did happen, like Jeff made sure, he would send, he'd send a message like, no, you're suspended.
00:40:46 Kevin
You think you can smoke in my school?
00:40:48 Kevin
You're suspended.
00:40:49 Kevin
You think you could smoke like within 10 feet of my school?
00:40:51 Kevin
No, you're suspended.
00:40:53 Kevin
Like that's,
00:40:54 Kevin
And that's what you needed.
00:40:55 Kevin
You needed a strong leader.
00:40:56 Kevin
And that's what we had.
00:40:57 Kevin
And we didn't have any fights in our school.
00:40:59 Kevin
And now they keep loosening and they keep putting more and more chains on guys like Jeff.
00:41:05 Kevin
And they keep loosening everything around the kids.
00:41:09 Kevin
The kids are there to learn.
00:41:11 Kevin
They're not there to pick fights.
00:41:12 Kevin
They're not there to smoke cigarettes.
00:41:13 Kevin
They're not there to do drugs.
00:41:20 Kevin
They're there to learn, to learn.
00:41:25 Kevin
So just this Friday,
00:41:28 Kevin
this past Friday, before my daughter even got to her first class.
00:41:34 Kevin
She said she was arriving at the school and some kid was beaten so badly he had to be sent to the hospital.
00:41:43 Kevin
Not by the student in question from the Jeff incident, not by Jeff, not by anybody, but another student.
00:41:53 Kevin
So 2 separate students.
00:41:56 Kevin
Separate from the initial incident, separate from the Jeff incident, separate two completely separate students.
00:42:02 Kevin
They might know each other.
00:42:03 Kevin
They may be friends.
00:42:04 Kevin
I don't know.
00:42:04 Kevin
I'm just saying that they were.
00:42:07 Kevin
We talked about student A&B getting an altercation and then Jeff stepping in after the fact.
00:42:16 Kevin
We talk about now we've got student C&D completely unrelated.
00:42:26 Kevin
She said before, she said she was arriving at the school and this altercation was happening and one kid was beaten so badly he had to be sent to the hospital.
00:42:34 Kevin
To the hospital on a Friday morning.
00:42:37 Kevin
That should not be happening in our school.
00:42:38 Kevin
And here's the other thing.
00:42:40 Kevin
You bet your *** if I was one of those parents, I would be suing the daylights out of the school district and I would, because they have custody of my children.
00:42:52 Kevin
It is their job to protect them while they're in their custody.
00:42:55 Kevin
It is my job to protect my children while they're in my custody.
00:42:59 Kevin
When I submit my custody to the school district, until I regain custody of my children, it is their responsibility to protect them.
00:43:10 Kevin
It is their responsibility.
00:43:15 Kevin
I said, well, why didn't anybody step in and stop it?
00:43:18 Kevin
And she goes, what, us students?
00:43:19 Kevin
I said, no.
00:43:21 Kevin
teachers, administrators, somebody.
00:43:23 Kevin
She goes, they're all afraid.
00:43:25 Kevin
They're going to get arrested for doing their job.
00:43:33 Kevin
This is set of precedents that should frighten every parent out there.
00:43:42 Kevin
Our kids are less safe now because of some ******** somebody is trying to pull to get a check.
00:43:51 Kevin
to get her son exonerated for something that he did and he should just see the consequences for.
00:43:59 Kevin
They ruined a man's life and that set of precedents.
00:44:02 Kevin
They arrested him.
00:44:04 Kevin
They arrested him and it scared everybody else.
00:44:07 Kevin
It scared all the other people that could protect your kids from the jungle that our school districts have become.
00:44:15 Kevin
They've become a jungle.
00:44:17 Kevin
They're putting our kids' lives at risk.
00:44:19 Kevin
They're just there to learn.
00:44:23 Kevin
They're not there to get their *** kicked.
00:44:24 Kevin
They're not there to learn some sort of a dominance hierarchy.
00:44:27 Kevin
We talk about that quite often on the show about how dominance hierarchies are important for kids to learn.
00:44:33 Kevin
This is not a prison.
00:44:34 Kevin
My kids are not to go there and just buddy up to the biggest kid there and grab his pocket and walk around with him all day.
00:44:42 Kevin
This is not prison.
00:44:43 Kevin
This is a school.
00:44:45 Kevin
where my children should learn, your children should learn, and they should learn peacefully.
00:44:57 Kevin
This is a sad day.
00:45:03 Kevin
That's why I had to speak.
00:45:06 Kevin
That's why I had to bring this forward.
00:45:08 Kevin
There's a lot that I've uncovered.
00:45:09 Kevin
I'm sure there'll be more when my FOIL requests come through.
00:45:14 Kevin
All the footage will be out there.
00:45:16 Kevin
I think they should release the footage now.
00:45:19 Kevin
If the mother is so insistent that this is, she's protecting her child and that these things really happened and he grabbed his child, her child's throat, then you have access to that footage.
00:45:36 Kevin
Release it.
00:45:40 Kevin
So that's
00:45:52 Kevin
That's, I'm stumbling now.
00:45:56 Kevin
Kevin usually is not a loss for words, and I'm at a loss for words.
00:46:00 Kevin
So, I think the mother should reconsider her actions.
00:46:09 Kevin
I think that Laurie Rieman should be ashamed of herself.
00:46:13 Kevin
Leave your position with dignity.
00:46:24 Kevin
You fail up in this world a lot of times, and it's a bad incentive structure to put in because it's putting a lot of children at risk.
00:46:35 Kevin
If I were those parents of the kid that got his *** beat to the point that he got it beat to go to the hospital, I would be suing the district.
00:46:43 Kevin
And that would not be for a money grab.
00:46:47 Kevin
But what do you do?
00:46:48 Kevin
I can see it from the parents' and the teachers' perspective.
00:46:52 Kevin
If I step in, I'm going to go to jail.
00:46:55 Kevin
Look what they did to Jeff.
00:46:56 Kevin
They're going to send me to jail.
00:47:00 Kevin
Well, that's why I couldn't be a teacher or an administrator, because they'd be locked up right next to Jeff, because no one's going to beat a kid on my watch.
00:47:13 Kevin
So, well, gang, it's a lot to digest.
00:47:17 Kevin
If I find that other screenshot, I'll let you know if you know who Jerry Theodore is.
00:47:22 Kevin
please write into the show, let us know.
00:47:26 Kevin
We have a lot of other things coming up too.
00:47:31 Kevin
I know it's getting close to Christmas time, but before the first of the year hits, I do have some other things I'd like to get off my chest.
00:47:37 Kevin
And we will do that on a different day.
00:47:39 Kevin
We are running close to an hour on today's show.
00:47:42 Kevin
But I do want to thank you all for listening.
00:47:45 Kevin
And
00:47:47 Kevin
if it walks like a duck and it talks like a duck and it sounds like corruption.
00:47:53 Kevin
And I pointed out here on the show, I think that should warrant an investigation.
00:48:00 Kevin
I really like, if I, there's some stuff that's going to happen that like, and I'll explain it, I guess, on a later date, I suppose.
00:48:07 Kevin
And if I, if I, if a guy like Kevin can call out predictions before things come to fruition,
00:48:14 Kevin
whether it's through hunches and inside knowledge or what have you, but it smells like corruption.
00:48:19 Kevin
You should be like, wait a minute, that guy said six months ago that was going to happen.
00:48:21 Kevin
And then it came to fruition and it stinks.
00:48:25 Kevin
We should do something about it.
00:48:30 Kevin
So we've got some stuff coming up, but I want to wish
00:48:39 Kevin
Jeff and his family the best of luck in their legal endeavors.
00:48:43 Kevin
I hope it works out.
00:48:44 Kevin
I hope people come to their senses and I hope people can stop chasing the money, stop chasing revenge, and let our school districts be returned to being safe again.
00:49:00 Kevin
I plead to my school district to protect our children.
00:49:09 Kevin
Protect our children.
00:49:11 Kevin
Bring back Jeff.
00:49:14 Kevin
All right, guys, we'll catch you guys later.
00:49:17 Kevin
Next time on Life 22.