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Where triathlon meets real talk. Hosted by two seasoned triathletes Lockie Jones and Lleyton Wall, this podcast takes a deep dive into the controversies, challenges, and triumphs of the triathlete world.
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Speaker 1
She goes in front would help the younger.
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Speaker 2
Of courage.
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Speaker 1
Unbelievable. There's nothing but. Racer man. World championship title.
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Speaker 3
All righty. Here we are. We are back for another year. Another card. I can't speak today. I've done that like, five times as well. We are back for episode 4949. I thought it was the big 50. Yeah, big half century, but no, quite. Is that where you raised the bat? For 100, you raise the bat. Oh, I'm not a cricket guy.
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Speaker 3
I mean, you still raise the bat, but you don't take off your helmet, okay? It's just a little nod to the crowd. We're waving the bat. Yeah. Kind of. Okay, well, we're not even doing that. We're not even doing that. We're at 49. Yeah. So be out next week. Who knows? You're right. Actually, we've got a big weekend ahead of us.
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Speaker 3
But next week. Yes, we would be. Will be nodding the head to the crowd for episode 50. But today, episode 49 of the unfunded podcast. As always, I'm your host, Lachlan Jones, professional triathlete. He was my good friend. Later, more professional triathlete as well. And it's race week, baby. It is race week. Oh, are you excited? Yeah. I am going to Japan.
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Speaker 3
You're coming, I'm coming. Yes, I am head head coach. Head coach for the week. Head coach. Bag bitch! Bitch. Time splits. Motivation. Throw at me on the course. Can you do that? You can't. No, you can't let off. Yeah. You can't outside of it. You're right. Don't do that. But basically, whatever the boys need me to be, I will be there as the coach, which is exciting.
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Speaker 3
And we get to see a bit of Japan. Yeah, yeah. It's good. We decided to stay on a couple of days just to suss out Japan, which is so annoying. Great country. Yeah, I really wanted to come home. It really sucks that we. That we can just stay on for a couple of days. I said it to one of my athletes this morning.
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Speaker 3
I was like, I'm going to Japan to like, watch. Watch your own and Layton and the boys and, yeah, we're just going to stay for a couple of days. And he was like, man, tough life. You have like, he rides pretty good. It's good to just get to nip over to Japan of nip over. Yeah, it'll be fun, though.
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Speaker 3
All the all the boys together and, Yeah, I think I think there's a lot of excitement. Yeah, for this trip. So it should be good. It'll be fun. It'll be fun. But lots happened on the weekend, and we've got lots of racing coming up this weekend. Yeah, I mean, we have Al Jarreau coming up. So the third WTS.
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Speaker 3
Yep. Later. Well, on the Saturday. So obviously we're going to recap it, but my god. Great start list jam packed with talent. Yeah. Oh like it's it's it's going to be one of those races where like bite your fingernails off kind of excitement like you. It was so hard to do the picks just then because I'm like, I actually don't know how this is going to play out.
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Speaker 3
Yeah, we'll get to that later. And then our opinions on the start list and how we think it's going to go. Hopefully we can pick it this week. Yeah we've been shocking. But what's happened in the world of sports so far. We had this segment back like when we first started. Yeah I think we've kind of gone back the world of sport.
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Speaker 3
But the enhanced games. Yeah, it's been in the news. Yeah, it's been a bit of a flop as well, to be honest. I don't really know what people expected like and we, I think we said it last week when we brought up the, they had realized that you can't really just juice to the gills. Get get get a retired 38 year old out of retirement.
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Speaker 3
Yeah. Juice him up and it'll be this phenomenal. Like they're only just just nicking world world records and most of them weren't taken. It kind of shows that the juice doesn't get. I mean, I'm sure it does give a massive advantage because they're about 38. Yeah. And they're they've come back for two months. There are their old boys doing these races, but it doesn't show the crazy level of like these performance enhances.
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Speaker 3
No, I think maybe it would show more on like a current athlete. Yeah. But then it's more the technology, as we said last week and also just been like jumping on the jumping on the gear for two months. That's not really a long enough period to really utilize a cycle, like if you are using EPO. What else are they using like testosterone?
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Speaker 3
Yeah, they were using everything. Everything, everything they could you kind of need more than a two month cycle to really get the benefits. You still have to have longevity on on the cycle. Yeah. So when you have athletes that, you know, have been caught doing it in clean sport, they've always been using it for like years. Yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 3
So. Right. But yeah, either way, it was funny. I think like we said it, the funniest thing about it is the media after. Yeah. So much and I want it. I saw James Magnussen. He actually did an interview and like, look, credit to the guy. He came out and just probably made the easiest $75,000 of his life.
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Speaker 3
He was the guy that kind of got it off the ground. So I would say that's where the crowd is. I didn't really matter what he swam because he didn't swim any good. Well, I mean, there was something where he said it was like his very first thing where he did it on the we spoke about it, the podcast.
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Speaker 3
What was that podcast? Oh hello sport podcast. Hello sport podcast. Where he went on there called up and said I'll jump in in hands games. I'll juice to the gills and in something amount of time I'll smash the world record. Yeah, that's just the brash character of it was like you were two seconds off your own personal record, your two seconds off your own PB, let alone beating the world record.
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Speaker 3
So, obviously there was a lot of funny sort of media around. I think the biggest one we saw was after the 50 meter freestyle. Yep. Cam McEvoy. He had something to say, didn't he? He did. And he. The best part was that, what was it? The Space Jam and the monsters. If you've seen these stories, you throw off a couple of stories and he's got like Michael Jordan.
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Speaker 3
They're playing if anyone knows, Space Jam like basketball against all these, like, yeah, monsters from outer space that all it was basically that they were all, I don't know, had some sort of radiation that just turned them into these monsters that could play basketball. And yeah, I think and even after when they saw the times, he put up another one, it was, Gordon Ramsay going, seriously, is that all you've got?
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Speaker 3
Yeah. Like you've done this massive protocol of, you know, enhanced testing and you've got swim skins on and the pools probably at an angle where you're swimming downstream, like, like kind of swimming downstream. I'm just kidding, I was kidding. But, you know, and to only shave what, like .007. Yeah. It's nothing. Nothing. And you put K McAvoy and swim skin and the swim skin alone without the cycle.
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Speaker 3
He's eating that. Yeah, exactly. It'd probably be half a second under that, to be honest. Yeah. And again, I also really didn't like there was one sort of thing that I saw people going, oh, this just proves everybody the Olympics is on on the juice as well. I was like, no, again, these are 38 year old retired athletes that they're bringing back out of retirement, which it is quite impressive that they got such old bodies that have been beaten to get so close or be like, you know, break a world record.
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Speaker 3
If you want. But yeah just a big payday. I think it's going to be one of those things where like it's gonna be one right now. Yeah, probably it's big and cool for right now. But realistically like everyone's going to forget about that in a month. Yeah exactly. Because it's like keep Choki when he ran the sub too, it's like it was really cool.
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Speaker 3
And it's cool that a human did that, but it doesn't count. No. Yeah. For the world record. So like, it's way cooler that. Oh is it Sebastian saw. Yeah, yeah. Did the two hours of day in London. Yeah. Like that. That's that's history. That is history that's bigger than than what Kipchoge was able to do. So it's the same as these.
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Speaker 3
It's like, yeah, you've done it. But when we go watch the Olympics or when we go watch the world champs at the end of the year, we're not going to be bringing up these times at their swimming. Yeah, exactly. We're going to remember cam McEvoy, you know, breaking the 50. Yeah. But yeah a bit of a flop.
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Speaker 3
I think everyone thinks it's a bit of a flop. And it's a good weekend viewing. I didn't watch any of it. I didn't watch the highlights. Yeah, maybe. But, I mean, I'm not sure if the guy that, When you. The guy that broke the record, is he celebrating because he broke the record, or is he celebrating because he just won 1 million USD?
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Speaker 3
$1 million? One, I think 2 million. That night. I think he broke two. Maybe like a 50 butterfly as well. Yeah. Don't quote me, but yeah, he broke two and you get $2 million. Like, that's why he's happy. He doesn't give a shit about the time. Yeah, he's like sick. That's $2 million coming into my bank account. I mean, if I'm a retired athlete and I was, they would be in that position and then also looks ripped.
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Speaker 3
You look good for 38. James Magnussen looked good like the time before. He was massive. He looked like one of those steroid looking cows. Yeah. You're not really seeing that picture. Yeah. Yeah, right. Have you seen the like the bull? Yeah. But like now did you see, like, a few of the pictures? He was like, they looked Lina.
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Speaker 3
He looked good. Yeah, yeah. Look. Leaner. Yeah. Got that Captain America kind of read on him. Yeah. That was superheroes. Yeah. On onto the next racing. That was on the weekend. And speaking of events, that might be one and done or potentially dying. We have the super tri. Super tri, formerly known as Super League, now known as Super Try.
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Speaker 3
I think that's where it went wrong, changed the name, changed the name because I love Super League. Super League was cool. Super try bit different. Obviously this was just a qualification race for and honestly, I didn't even know it was on. No, nor did I until the results came out and I saw it on Super Tries Instagram.
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Speaker 3
But yeah, it's so weird series this year. So they're calling it a Pro series kind of like Iron Man. They have their Pro Series and they have three qualification races. So they had one in Austin on the weekend. Then there's one Belem that in the UK that's in the UK somewhere. Absolutely. And then Toronto. And then they have the final at the end in Jersey.
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Speaker 3
Yeah, that'd be cool. That would be cool. Yes. But it's A11 race event. Like at the end of the year. You haven't sucked me in for the whole year of watching Super Try. Let's be like, there's no storyline to follow. Yeah, and those big dogs are going there for a payday. Yeah, exactly. Because we know we know what what are Super League is notorious for big paychecks.
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Speaker 3
You know, good contracts. That's why the athletes go there and do them. Almost on the steroids topic. A French Grand Prix series on steroids. Really? Which is what Super League was. Yeah. Now, one race format. Don't know how I. Yeah, I don't really like it. So out of these qualifying races, because they used to have qualifying races to get on the series, I did one in Bali, I did yeah, like crazy to think that there was a race in Bali, but I did one in Bali in a resort car park.
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Speaker 3
It was epic. It was really sick. Yeah, but like if you qualified, you would have been on the series and that would have been. That would have been cool. I think it was fourth. It was three. Yeah, I missed out. So top three qualify from these three races around pretty much American one in the UK. And then they go into the final and then the final is they're claiming it as the biggest single day payday in triathlon history.
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Speaker 3
So it's 800,000 USD prize purse. I'd love to see that breakdown. Yeah. What it goes to. Yeah. What is the win again? Who does it go to? But yeah. So I mean fair enough. In the men's Tim Hellwig raced. So that was cool. Didn't even know. But he's obviously going to be racing in that final now. Yeah I think they have contracted people for the final I already seen I think like Maddie houses racing I think.
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Speaker 3
Yeah. Hayden Alex Conway maybe. So you'll have your big names there. Yeah. So I mean yeah it'll be cool race. And then you had some French guy I really. Jim. Yep. Yeah. He's a really good runner. And then Matthew Magee. No idea who that is. No idea. The rest of the Americans, I think, are maybe new. One American.
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Speaker 3
The rest. I just had no idea. Yeah. And then in the women's. Gwen Jorgensen, your favorite. Yeah. My buddy. And then Eleanor Beveridge. Yep. Don't know. Suzanne Mickleover. Yep. No idea who they are. So probably that was kind of the racing. Yeah. Yeah, it was like, I think obviously here you had like a big name at the top and then.
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Speaker 3
Exactly. I mean kudos to these people. They've went and done it and they've got the top three. And they'll now have a chance to go out that big payday. So you got you got to be in the ring. You got to get your hat in the ring to to get in there. But I think if they wanted to go this way with the event series, they should have had more races than just three in America and one in the UK, like one in Toronto, one in America and one in the UK.
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Speaker 3
Like. Yeah, it's just it's also just for the world. If you want to make it a bigger event, there's no they'll have like contracted people for one day. For one day. Yeah. It's like it. Yeah I don't know I think I think suplex dying a slow death. And it's kind of sad to see. Yeah. Because I think everybody loves Super League.
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Speaker 3
Yeah it was exciting. Super League was the big the big race that everyone loved. And I think even all the pros loved doing it. It's kind of like a rugby sevens. I felt. Yeah, it was like more of a festival kind of atmosphere. It was a bit more relaxed innovation, shorter, sharper. Yeah. So I thought that was really cool.
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Speaker 3
That had cool destinations. You know, the top guys were still playing it. Yeah, I don't know. And just yeah obviously like I think the financial side of it like it's toll and they've had to slowly shrink every year and year out. It has now. It's just kind of getting to the point where people don't don't really know, don't really care.
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Speaker 3
And I feel once it kind of goes down, that gurgle of changing up, the financials are drying out. Well, they're not going to gain any more financials from it because no one's watching it exactly where we're not. If I watch Jersey and that's it. Yeah. Jersey and that'll be cool. Probably just watch the replay on YouTube. Exactly. See who won.
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Speaker 3
How many thousands. That's cool. See? That's what I am. Yeah. Just came to see who's winning. Big one takes a massive money at the end of the day. Well, that's all the racing that happened on the weekend and all the events on the weekend. We look forward to this weekend, this coming weekend, other than the big one that is happening in a soccer.
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Speaker 3
Yep. That's that's obviously the, the big one. And who's on the who's on the stylus for any big names they're missing? Dylan McCulloch. Oh, boy, did we not see him just. Absolutely. Yeah. We we need to note this. 18 months out, he and he's come back like he never left. Like he won his last one. He did some naughty things to those other boys in that race.
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Speaker 3
He committed a crime to everybody else in that race. What did he had somebody said like 20, like 30s 20 odd seconds to the main park, out of the water, then road another 40, 20 odd seconds into them and then just ran. What? He had to run like just one man. Just just take it on the field. Yeah, it it looked like a cuts like.
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Speaker 3
And that's no disrespect to any of like no no, no. But that shows how good Dylan is. And it's like somebody said, I can't believe you did that. And I was kind of like, how can you not believe he did that? Yeah, we were talking about that. We were like, we've seen this guy do this. Yeah. World Cup level.
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Speaker 3
You look at his last like look at his last four results. So he put on win at a World Cup, an eighth place at a World Series and eighth place at a World Championships and 19th at the Olympic Games. Yeah. So of course he's going to do this at a Conti Cup in the middle of China. Yeah, of course he's going to do that.
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Speaker 3
Yeah. It's like sending Luke Wilson or Tim Hellwig or one of those guys over there that they would have done the exact same thing, just played around with them. Yeah. I mean, he's back at the right time. Olympic period starts. Yeah I think yeah. He'll be like we picked him as like a dark horse or like an up and comer last year.
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Speaker 3
Yeah we did. Unfortunately it was injured for most of the. Yeah. With for the whole year. Yeah. Well yeah for the whole year and half of this year already. But yeah, he's, I think he's back and hopefully he stays healthy. I think we a big force going into LA. He definitely will be with that with that form.
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Speaker 3
He definitely will be. Yeah. Well good luck to you. Have to raise him. Yeah. Fuck. You know. But like I mean I've been swimming with Dylan and he is swimming. Phenomenal. Let's go. Let's go is ridiculous. Let's play. Let's go over unders.
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Speaker 3
15. Oh no. Let's go over unders 20s on you. Out of the water. Oh fuck. Will he have over 10s on you or under 10s on you. Out of the water. Oh, he'll probably have over ten on me. Did I say ten meant 2020? We have over over 20 or under 20? I hope not over 20 years. Not coming back.
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Speaker 3
I don't think he's over 20s just kiss first place goodbye. Yeah, yeah, we're battling for a second then. Oh, you guys have to ride hard. But he's a he's cyclist. I went for a ride with him one day. I was fucking gassed. Like he's ride to Robic and you're like, can we finish this O2 on O2? Actually, yeah.
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Speaker 3
What are we going over under? Oh, I'll go back myself. I'm not. I'm sorry. You listen to these fucking. You're going under. I'm gonna go over. I'll talk to me. I'll tell him. Just ease up. Yeah. We've got an over under bet going on in the podcast. Alrighty. We move forward to the second most important race of the weekend, CSL.
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Speaker 3
Okay. Do you say Al Jarreau, our Giro, Al Jarreau? It's all the same. Yeah. Algeria. Algebra. Giro. Our the preview. Yeah, like we said. What a stacked list on both sides. Men and women. Yeah. Super exciting. With deep. It's deep, it's super deep. We've got past first, second and third I think all racing we've got I think all the medals from this year's races.
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Speaker 3
Yeah. At least in the men. Anyway, they're all racing and this is exactly what we expected with the Olympic cycle starting. Yeah. Olympic cycle starting points are on up for grabs now. Olympic points are up for grabs. Everyone's back. It's business time. It is business times. Business time. And we can't wait for it. I'm actually so excited. This is one of those ones that we haven't been good with.
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Speaker 3
Picking how the race is going to play out so far, I don't think you'll be able to pick out this one. It's going to play out at all. It's a guess. Yeah, you're completely guessing with this. It depends on who you want to win. Yeah, literally. Really. It's like, what way will it go? Literally. So same courses last year.
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Speaker 3
Yep. Same courses last year. You want to give us a rundown of course profile. It is an Olympic. So this is the third Olympic back to back. It was meant to be a sprint distance. Originally we saw it was meant to be a sprint distance. Originally you were meant to have the mixed team relay on the Sunday, but they've unfortunately had to change it due to circumstances that I have no idea.
00;19;24;29 - 00;19;49;20
Speaker 3
Yeah. No clue. Probably above my head, above my pay grade, but either way, it's Olympic distance. Yep. So that's cool. Each swim in the Mediterranean. Oh, God. God, they haven't had to be good. I don't know, and then it's, It's a pretty technical bike course. Pretty hilly too. Yeah. Hilly. A few little punches. And I think last year it was a bit windy, so,
00;19;49;23 - 00;20;14;06
Speaker 3
Yeah, that'll be interesting. Had quite a few crashes, actually, I think I was saying Taylor Reed come down maybe. I think Jack Willis as well. One of the Brits came down. So the were quite a few out of a U-turn at the far end coming back through the old town roads. Yeah. So that's cool down road. It's unlike when there's a race in Europe because it's like you have that atmosphere of the old town in the city, like that's cool.
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Speaker 3
I mean, I think nearly 70% of the races are in Europe. No, but we've been in Asia, maybe not 70 at the moment. And then the run, a few, a punchy little climb out of transition and then pretty much flat. Yeah, it's pretty flat other than that. Yeah. We saw we've got both returning winners last year. So we said we've got, Miguel Hidalgo who funny to see like obviously how dominant Houser was last year.
00;20;44;10 - 00;21;07;26
Speaker 3
But Miguel Hidalgo did get up on him in this one. Tough to see how it's going to happen again. But Matt did come second in that. And then even with the women, we've got Cassandra Grant coming back. First race of the year. We have been waiting to see Cassandra Grant back in two in a row here. So she's going for her third, and we've all seen how far she's running right now.
00;21;07;27 - 00;21;16;28
Speaker 3
Yeah. That 1440. Do you reckon you could run that. Me? Yeah.
00;21;17;00 - 00;21;45;01
Speaker 3
What is what is that. That's 56. Yeah. 256 pace. Yeah. Do you reckon you run to 56 pace? I don't know, that is actually about me. It's actually incredible. I think I'd be popped. I'd be happy if I went for 5999 retirements knocking buddy. Well, I have to get on that TT brother. Even even talking to a lot of the girls in our squad.
00;21;45;01 - 00;21;59;24
Speaker 3
And obviously we've got girls in our squad that are like very much up and coming like great athletes. Got Charlotte Derbyshire, Aspen Anderson, the Hedge Allen girls. Yeah all of them are just like Holy shit, what do we do with that? Yeah that's phenomenal. I mean it's the same for us seeing Alex Jay running a 29 minute 10-K off the bike.
00;22;00;04 - 00;22;15;14
Speaker 3
What do you do with that. But like yeah the girl the girls are nervous and I'd be nervous if I was I would be nervous myself if it is a event. As a male raising her, I used to think I'd be able to beat any female, but I'm. I'm guessing that now. Yeah, well, she'd get you right now.
00;22;15;15 - 00;22;33;09
Speaker 3
He. You're right. I can't run. So you would get me right now. I'd break myself. But we'll go. We'll go through the list how we think it's going to play out. The men's race. We'll do the men's race first. And we've got a lot of key, key guys that we didn't have, both in Summer Khan and Yoko all coming together.
00;22;33;10 - 00;22;55;26
Speaker 3
Yeah. As we we didn't mention. But the gap fillers are kind of back. Yeah, I believe so. It's it's not just that massive, you know, very good front pack and then drops off in I guess depth of field. I think it's a is a deep field the whole way round. Like there's probably like 15, 20 guys that are all world class like top ten.
00;22;55;27 - 00;23;17;00
Speaker 3
Yeah. Top five on their day. And it's the gap fillers like like when we talk about Yoko that we didn't when you had, you know, say we're going to have I, you obviously would assume Matthew Hawes and Miguel Hidalgo, Henry Graf, Charles Bichette Croce as well. And Mark Devi, he's in that as well. So they're obviously the guys that are thorn as well.
00;23;17;02 - 00;23;35;01
Speaker 3
I would I would almost say in this case Vettel. Thorn is a bit of a gap filler. Then you'll have like your Vettel thorns, your Luke Williams your song and Lehman's your Ricardo Batista's guys that are like really good swimmers as well. Yeah, Seth Ryder guys that are really good swimmers but they're they're not Alex Yi, Mark Dave a kind of.
00;23;35;03 - 00;23;53;20
Speaker 3
So they'll probably be in that 10th to 15th. And that's where, you know, like you could sneak in a Conway or you could sneak in an Alex. Ye have a good start. I think that's the gap. Alex came out of the water not that far back. It was just the chase back. Yeah. So like you had in a song, a Charles Vettel thorn Tom Richard.
00;23;53;21 - 00;24;19;12
Speaker 3
Like, there's bodies to climb onto that front. Literally. Bodies. Bodies to fill that gap. So that's what we mean by gap fillers, bodies to fill the gap of, you know, the massive I guess probably difference between Matt houses swimming ability and Alex Yates ability. If they would just have a pure swim race. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So they're the guys that kind of fit in between their on ability ability scale and it man, I don't know.
00;24;19;13 - 00;24;38;06
Speaker 3
Like it is so hard to think if this is going to break up or not. Yeah I'm unsure. It's a 50. It's honestly I'm I'm I'm going to make my picks but I do not trust myself one bit. I'm not. Sam can I think divided what way we're going with our picks so divided I'm. I'm not Salman Khan lucky.
00;24;38;08 - 00;25;00;05
Speaker 3
Who thinks this is breakaway 100%? I have no idea. And then we're also adding in bloody Hayden wild Hayden wild and the bike power. Yeah. Now off what we saw in Yoko. The bike power increased a hell of a lot. You say Hayden wild in and you just know he's going hunting on that bike. Yeah. Now, now Alison's got someone to work with.
00;25;00;07 - 00;25;19;13
Speaker 3
You got Hayden there. You're going to have, like, probably Dorian Conics. If he doesn't make the front pack, he'll be there as well. And Simon Westerman, as much as you don't think it's happening, you have people like a Hugo that'll be there riding hard. Not maybe for Alex, but like a Jack Willis as well. They're riding hard on Bentley.
00;25;19;14 - 00;25;41;29
Speaker 3
Oliver Conway Conway is not riding for anyone but himself, surely? Probably not. But you know what I mean. Like, yeah, some of those boys will probably have a little instruction. Yeah, somewhere along the line. Know for sure. Kindle. My goodness, there's just so many. One we haven't even talked about during conics. Yes, he will be there. What do you think?
00;25;42;02 - 00;26;02;19
Speaker 3
What do you think in conics. Because he had he did have a really good race Lanzarote fourth. And that was a pretty stacked field. Obviously we saw Cantero Helwig go there. So he's running his there. He's running up there. But is it going to be to the level of you know yeah I'm not too sure 1430 in Lanzarote.
00;26;02;21 - 00;26;25;20
Speaker 3
Realistically I think he's on for a top ten. But I'm not not confident that he's not gonna. Yeah. Tyler. Yeah there honestly there's so many there's heaps of people okay. We've got to lock it. We've got to lock in a prediction. So I think but and obviously my my picks do reflect this. But I think there will be a bit of a breakaway.
00;26;25;28 - 00;26;43;08
Speaker 3
Oh I've gone the break as well. No. So I have gone the break. But I don't think it's going to be that big of a it's not going to be the break that we saw. You're going to have Madhouse and Miguel Hidalgo, Henry Graf, crotchety, probably Diego Moya, Charles Piquet, Mark Devey. So you are probably going to have maybe an 8 to 10 pack.
00;26;43;09 - 00;27;01;21
Speaker 3
Yeah. Some people won't swim that well. So you'll have like maybe a Chase McQueen. Someone like that who won't. Maybe. Yoko. He didn't make the pack. Yeah, someone who should should be in the front pack. Someone's going to miss it and have a rough day because you can't have. Yeah, everyone right there can't have everyone there. So I think we're going to have that break.
00;27;01;21 - 00;27;24;15
Speaker 3
We're going to have. And this is where it's tough because I'm going to say 30 to 40. I'm going to say, well, I'm going to say about 40 to 40s, 30 to 40s. Alex ran a minute quicker than Matt Houser and Miguel Hidalgo over. So if it is 30 to 40s, they've then got a run quicker than what they did in Yoko.
00;27;24;18 - 00;27;43;18
Speaker 3
Man, this is I, I keep I'm contradicting myself now. I'm now I'm kind of going back. Yeah. I'm kind of changing my picks in my head right now. Do you want to say your picture right now? Okay, okay. I'm going back it. I'm going back the boy, Matt Hauser. You got him? Yep. I've got Matt Hauser there. Oh, okay.
00;27;43;20 - 00;27;47;27
Speaker 3
I'm going for the brakes on it.
00;27;48;00 - 00;28;17;15
Speaker 3
You bouncing on it? You've been waiting to say that all morning. All morning, haven't you? Yeah, I have, hoping you weren't going to change. Fix. Sorry. Okay. I've got, I've gone house. I, I've changed it again. Now I'm going Alex second. Okay Alex a second I've got Alex and then I'm going a Miguel. Yeah. I feel like you can't go past Miguel.
00;28;17;16 - 00;28;34;18
Speaker 3
Like he won this race last year. He won it last year. You won it last year. You probably likes these conditions. He's a front, packs a great cyclist. So the hills aren't going to hurt him as much. Yeah okay, I get that. I reckon it might be like 10s Houser versus ye. Yeah. In the end. All righty. Fuck.
00;28;34;19 - 00;28;54;13
Speaker 3
But he ran a minute quicker. I don't I don't know. I also don't think Hauser ran to his full potential in Yoko. I think he ran smart. Yeah, he did what he had do. It'll be interesting what run form Hayden was in. I see it's tough to pick him because we don't know. Yeah. Oh, has he lost a bit of that shine?
00;28;54;14 - 00;29;17;21
Speaker 3
I'm going to go. I've changed mine. Yeah I've gone. Alex. Oh, you've gone Alex. I've done it again. I've gone I know I get it. I, I did this last week and I ate my words picking Alex first. Now, based off the knowledge we know, I just don't see them putting like I don't see that front pack putting another two minutes in.
00;29;17;22 - 00;29;37;15
Speaker 3
No I don't see them getting that I like maybe maybe a minute, maybe a minute. But maybe. But yeah you have a Hayden was a big dynamic massive. When you've got hate like Hayden there and you're going to have Alex, he's going to push regardless. Like there's going to be some big dogs. Yeah I'm going Alex I can't say Alex J for the win on Alex.
00;29;37;15 - 00;29;40;01
Speaker 3
Yay.
00;29;40;04 - 00;30;02;17
Speaker 3
Oh it's actually not going to be good for me going Alex I'm going to go David. Kentaro. Oh because I just think he's going to be there. Yeah. He'll be in that pack and he'll do absolutely nothing on the bike. Save himself for a blistering run. Then I'm going to go mad. Howler just in case there is that 32nd buffer where they might catch him or if it's 20s, whatever it is.
00;30;02;17 - 00;30;25;22
Speaker 3
And then I think, how's it going to run? What about a Hugo? No, I just I haven't seen enough of Hugo in a World Series yet to really trust him. Okay, maybe a top ten, but like, this is a deep field and I don't trust his biking ability yet. I still think he's got a bit of work to do on the bike where if you are going to have a Hayden while just absolutely gunning that bike, I think Hugo Milner, he'll probably be sitting at the back.
00;30;25;23 - 00;30;41;16
Speaker 3
He'll get yo yo out of each corner. It's pretty technical. It's hilly. She's he's a bigger body. I don't trust you. I just don't trust you. Go yet. Ollie Conway is going to be a dark horse. We know that. Henry Graf's going to be a dark horse. It's tough not picking Vasco. Purely looking at how he went here last year.
00;30;41;16 - 00;31;11;09
Speaker 3
He didn't do too well. So there's honestly so many names you can pick. I think the biggest player in this race will be Hayden Wild. Yeah, he will be the one that changes this race. Whether it's a whether it depends. And it would depend on his swim, how far back he is. If Houser lets rip and does what he did in Wollongong and Hayden's two minutes back and can't swim, well then it's it's I think the break the break survives the big difference though.
00;31;11;10 - 00;31;33;18
Speaker 3
There's no two 100 the day before. Hayden's going into this fresh. That is true. Yeah. If Hayden's in that in that chase main chase I think it could come together or it'll be. Yeah. 20s into T2 2030 rattling my brain to think about it. But I think it's all depend on what Hayden does. Yeah. On the bike. Yep.
00;31;33;20 - 00;31;53;28
Speaker 3
And how he swims and how he rides like he's going to ride hard regardless. So that doesn't matter. It's how Hayden swims. That's how the race will unfold because you're going to have him. And like we said before, you're going to have a Simon Westerman, also a gun cyclist. He's always in the chase pack. You're going to have a Kindle, a Kindle.
00;31;54;01 - 00;31;58;00
Speaker 3
Not today. I'm.
00;31;58;03 - 00;32;17;26
Speaker 3
You can have Kindle in the in the Chase back as well. So, Yeah. Oh man. Tough. But that's my pick. I'm going Alex I'm going. Quintero going back Matt Hauser okay. Thank you. See houses got a win one at some point though because I have picked him for the World Series champion. So I'm going to have to pick him at some point.
00;32;17;27 - 00;32;44;13
Speaker 3
That's why I've picked him. Yeah okay. Fair enough. Okay. Into the women's just as good. Honestly. It's the women are just as hard. It's 100% Olympic cycle has well and truly started because the depth everyone is back. And what the craziest thing is seeing. Taylor Knibb and Sophie Evans ranked 45th and 46th. And then last Sandra 31st. Yeah, that is ridiculous.
00;32;44;17 - 00;33;16;13
Speaker 3
Yeah. So yeah. Everyone's back. Cassandra. Beth. Lisa. Turkish, Bianca's surrogacy. She was second there last year. Yep. Lenny. Parole. John. Leah. Emma Lombardi GTB live. Matthias. Libertas third there last year. Wow. That is a start list. And you've even got like the strengths that we were talking about. Like the individual strengths. You've got to like Tilly, Tilly, Anima just they're both going to absolutely smack that swim.
00;33;16;14 - 00;33;36;29
Speaker 3
You've got the Maria tomb. She's a gun of Victoria Lopez as well. Tomb. She's a great runner. So we've got we've got strength across the board. Yep. Even like great riders GTB Taylor Spivey. They've done their little long course they're riding phenomenal. Yeah. So it's going to be fully good as well. It's going to be just as hard as the men to pick.
00;33;37;00 - 00;33;55;19
Speaker 3
Like honestly we could keep listening names all day because you could list all 4546 because Taylor Nibs ranked 46 and Uber Biker and this is, this is this is what we want. Like we want the we missed this last year. Like obviously the year after the Olympics. There's always a bit of a lull. Like we said we spoke about it plenty of times.
00;33;55;19 - 00;34;12;19
Speaker 3
Hayden's off doing other things. Alex is off doing other things. George Taylor Brown's off doing other things, like people are off doing, you know, their little side quests, people are doing their side. Side quests are over. It's all focused back on, back to play, back to play time. Yep. Everyone got back. They see that little Olympic gold shining.
00;34;12;20 - 00;34;33;25
Speaker 3
The rings are there. Yeah. People want to signing in there. We're back. I'm going. Cassandra, bro. Grant. Yeah. She's hard to beat like that run pedigree I mean they all have great run great run pedigree. But Cassandra Brooke to just go and run like Leighton's PB is just quicker than that. Way quicker. She's put a minute into my run PB over 5KA minute.
00;34;33;26 - 00;34;53;02
Speaker 3
No. Better say you need to sort it out. Go to one right now. So I'm going Cassandra program for that reason. Beth Potter in second. Just based off current form. She's just flying right now. Doesn't look to be slowing down. And I go to John Leah because she's got third in Simon Can third in Yokohama. And I got her coming third again this weekend.
00;34;53;04 - 00;35;12;28
Speaker 3
Okay. I've gone Cassandra as well. Sure, sure. They come back with and then she's unbeatable here last two times. Yeah I've got Beth in second. Yeah. I feel like at the moment they are the easier to. Yeah, they're still there. The top two. And be interesting to see how the dynamic plays out. Whether they're back looking at each other.
00;35;12;29 - 00;35;47;14
Speaker 3
Yeah. Like constantly just going you me it's a run battle. Yeah. We don't have, two demands and racing. I know I did think that. Yeah. So that's unfortunate, but, I mean, she'll be back. She proved that she was one of the best last week. And now I've gone Emma Lombardi. So the only reason Emma Lombardi just maybe a bit a little bit nervous in Yokohama because I picked her for, I think, second in Yokohama, she just didn't look to have that run form to be able to keep up with obviously had two demands and just like really driving that train.
00;35;47;14 - 00;36;10;17
Speaker 3
But when Beth Potter came past as well, just didn't look to have that next gear to be able to run with the field. Yeah, I don't know. I've just got a feeling I was going to go le here, but I think I think everyone body's got something. I love God, I love it going with gut feeling like I feel like sometimes you just go like whoever's wearing your favorite color.
00;36;10;18 - 00;36;35;16
Speaker 3
Yeah. You do something like that or like you like the sound of their last name. Yeah. I think maybe, maybe, maybe it's the thing with, Cassandra, like, the French are back. Yeah, yeah. So, anyway, that's, that's our picks. I mean, and we're also sleeping on, like, we're not sleeping on them either. Like, if anybody comes at us, if anybody comes off this weekend, we get angry at us for not picking such and such.
00;36;35;18 - 00;36;57;27
Speaker 3
Shut up. Because I literally don't know who to pick. It took me so long. I changed my picks literally mid recording. Yeah, I flipped my picks on my head mid recording. What was your original pick? My original pick was Matt Hauser, Miguel Hidalgo, Alex Yee, and I've talked myself out of that because I'm like, mom was housing Miguel and Henry Graf?
00;36;57;28 - 00;37;23;04
Speaker 3
Yeah, I know, we've just completely I've just ditched Hidalgo. You've just ditched Graf. Like. Like, yeah, we've the girls. I stayed the same, but the men are just completely talked myself out of that. I just I just really, really struggled to see anything more than a 42nd gap. Yeah, but honestly, watch them just going absolute make a mockery out of us and go put two minutes into him.
00;37;23;04 - 00;37;49;17
Speaker 3
Yeah. No. Just after we've struggled to get struggled to land on a race tactic or how how is it going to go the complete no. It's complete opposite to whatever the unfunded boys said. What have they said? We're going to do the complete opposite to them. Maybe. Maybe it's good for our end of year world champs picks. What that we pick like either a massive breakaway or no breakaway at all, like we said.
00;37;49;19 - 00;38;04;25
Speaker 3
I mean, we picked the breakaway this week, so it's going to be none. Yeah. But pick no breakaway and it's always going to break. Maybe we've got a curse. There's some sort of curse on us. There probably is. There's some sort of curse that we put on the half one curse. Yeah, there's some triathlon curse or whatever we say it's going to be.
00;38;04;26 - 00;38;22;21
Speaker 3
It doesn't happen because that's kind of where it is at the moment. Like literally we have not picked from World Cups to World Series, not picked one race. We've always picked a decent podium, just not the dynamic dynamic. Don't listen. I don't even know if my podiums I could this time. No. Yeah, I don't know. We'll see. Anyone could be one.
00;38;22;22 - 00;38;45;27
Speaker 3
It's an exciting race. Yeah. And everyone's going to be tuned into that one. We'll be tuning in. Line for soccer. Yeah. Being a soccer. Will there be live updates? Lucky. Yeah, I'll bring my laptop. Yeah. Oh, wait, are you talking? I mean, like, on the pod of the soccer or. I think we gave some business or. No.
00;38;46;00 - 00;39;08;19
Speaker 3
Yeah, we'll do some stuff. Okay? Okay. We'll do some stuff. We we'll we'll come up. We'll come up with a soccer content maybe if anybody, if anybody knows a soccer really well and has any ideas and listens to the pod, we're probably not going to get anybody messaging us. But, if you'd like to give us any recommendations for things we should do or things that the unfunded should go and take over, yeah.
00;39;08;22 - 00;39;30;29
Speaker 3
Hit us up. Unfunded meet and greet in the castle? Absolutely not. I'd love to know what our. I'd love to know what our. Listen. What is it? Yeah. Audience. Looks like. You know, I don't know if it's that big. Now we just have the Kiwis. Yeah. Race briefing. Exactly. But that'll be fun. So, like we said, we'll be there.
00;39;31;04 - 00;39;51;09
Speaker 3
Hit us up if you've got anything for us to do over in a soccer. Always looking. But that's the that's the recap of last week. That's the preview of this week to come. We'll we'll be back probably a little bit late. Yeah. Next week we might be a light out Garo recap. Hopefully we'll be able to get something up by next Friday for the recap.
00;39;51;09 - 00;40;10;00
Speaker 3
But regardless, we'll be we'll be tuning in. If anything exciting happens, I'll definitely be. We'll be posting about that and throwing out $0.02 in the hat. So I love doing that. But yeah, again, thank you very much for listening. Episode 50 next week I'll I'll nod my head to the crowd and we'll take that. Yeah. 50. Wow.
00;40;10;02 - 00;40;29;07
Speaker 3
50. Who would have thought? Nearly 50. I would have thought. It has been a while. It was still unfunded. We do this before. We would have so thought that we would have. Well, we started this little pipe dream. I thought I was making a dog takes one season, and then all of a sudden we're going to be literally rolling in money.
00;40;29;08 - 00;40;45;03
Speaker 3
Yeah, I know how many. Yeah. Fuck. How many have Joe Rogan done? You know what? Who cares? Doesn't matter because we do. We love it. We love it. We do a fun. We do it for free. We do, we do, we do do it for free. Alrighty, guys. Thank you very much for listening. And we will report back next week.
00;40;45;05 - 00;40;45;20
Speaker 3
Shall.