Hard Hat Chat: No-BS Construction Discussion with Justin & Gerritt

In this episode of Hard Hat Chat, Justin Smith, CEO of Contractor+, and Gerritt Bake, CEO of Build PRO, tackle one of the most overlooked profit killers in construction, bad branding, or no branding at all.

Too many skilled contractors lose jobs not because of price or quality, but because homeowners simply don’t remember them. Justin and Gerritt break down why branding is not about logos or colors, but about trust, recognition, and how customers feel the moment they encounter your business online or in person.

The conversation explores the most common branding mistakes contractors make, including inconsistency, invisibility online, weak storytelling, and confusing messaging. Through real-world scenarios and realistic case studies, Justin and Gerritt show how branding directly impacts close rates, pricing power, referrals, hiring, and long-term business value.

They also explain the psychology behind homeowner decision-making, why recognition drives trust, and how contractors can build a strong brand without hiring expensive agencies. From trucks and websites to communication and reviews, this episode lays out a practical roadmap for becoming memorable instead of invisible.

Whether you’re a solo contractor or running multiple crews, this episode will change how you think about branding and show you how to turn your reputation into a competitive advantage.

🔧 In this episode, you’ll learn how to:

  • Understand why branding affects trust and close rates
  • Fix common branding mistakes that cost contractors jobs
  • Build recognition without massive marketing budgets
  • Improve pricing power through professional perception
  • Use storytelling to stand out in crowded markets
  • Turn branding into a growth asset instead of an afterthought
  • Attract better customers and stronger team members

If you’ve ever lost a job where you knew you were the better contractor, this episode explains why and how to fix it.

Creators and Guests

Host
Gerritt Bake
CEO at American Contractor Network
Host
Justin Smith
CEO at Contractor+

What is Hard Hat Chat: No-BS Construction Discussion with Justin & Gerritt?

Hard Hat Chat is your backstage pass to the gritty and sometimes mind-blowing world of construction. Hosted by Justin Smith, CEO at Contractor Plus, and Gerritt Bake, CEO at American Contractor Network, this show is all about keeping it real—no corporate fluff, no sugarcoating. Tune in each week for straight talk on growing a contracting business, avoiding industry pitfalls, and sharing the occasional “holy sh*t, did that really happen?” job site story. Whether you’re a seasoned pro or just getting your boots dirty, you’ll pick up hard-earned insights and a few good laughs along the way. Join us, throw on your hard hat, and let’s build something awesome.

Justin: What’s up everyone welcome back to Hard Hat Chat. I’m Justin Smith, CEO of Contractor+, and today we’re tackling a big silent killer in this industry: bad branding. Or worse… no branding at all.

Gerritt: [start with a light chuckle] You’re already calling people out and we’re like 10 seconds into the episode. I love it.

Justin: Hey, someone’s gotta say it. Too many amazing contractors are losing jobs not because of quality or price but because homeowners don’t remember them.

Gerritt: Exactly. [start with a light chuckle] You could be the Michelangelo of drywall, but if your branding is just a faded truck sticker, people forget you exist.

Justin: And joining me to stir the pot today, as always, my brother in construction strategy, the guy who keeps the jobs running and the brand shining, CEO of Build PRO, Mr. Gerritt Bake.

Gerritt: [start with a light chuckle] I’m here to deliver truths gently… like a brick through a window.

Justin: Perfect delivery method.

Justin: Let’s start with the big misconception. Most contractors think branding is a logo.

Gerritt: Or a T-shirt. Or picking a name like “Quality Construction LLC” as if nobody else thought of that.

Justin: Branding is how people feel about your business. It’s the trust, the recognition, the vibe.

Gerritt: It’s the difference between “I’ll think about it” and “When can you start?”

Justin: And here’s the kicker. Homeowners make emotional decisions first, logical decisions second.

Gerritt: 100 percent. They hire based on trust and confidence before they look at pricing.

Justin: Let’s share the top reasons contractors fail at branding.

Justin: Reason 1 - No clear identity.

Justin: People don’t know who you are or what makes you different.

Gerritt: If your brand sounds like everyone else, you disappear into the noise.

Justin: Reason 2 - No consistency.

Justin: Truck looks one way, business card another, website another, if you even have one.

Gerritt: And nothing matches your shirts. Or your invoices. Or your social pages. Customers get confused and move on.

Justin: Reason 3 - No online presence.

Justin: No website. No Google Business. Social pages not updated since the last presidential election.

Gerritt: And customers think, “This business may not exist anymore.”

Justin: Hard truth. Invisibility kills.

Justin: And let’s sprinkle in real data. Sites like MarketingProfs or HubSpot report:

Justin: Customers form trust opinions in 3 to 5 seconds.

Justin: 75 percent of credibility judgments come from branding.

Justin: Recognition drives repeat business by over 80 percent.

Gerritt: Branding is a business accelerator, not decoration.

Justin: Now let’s talk about Contractor+ for a second. We include a free AI website on paid plans because we want branding to start strong.

Justin: These sites aren’t just pretty. They’re lead-optimized, SEO-powered, CRM-connected. Branding shouldn’t be optional.

Gerritt: And that’s the easiest starting point. If they don’t remember you online, they won’t hire you offline.

Justin: Let’s tell a fictional but very real case. Meet Bob. He’s a top-tier deck builder in North Carolina.

Gerritt: The dude can build decks that make sunsets jealous.

Justin: [start with a light chuckle] But his brand was “Bob’s Decks” with a clip art hammer from 2001. No website. Business card printed on paper thinner than tissue.

Gerritt: Great product. Terrible branding.

Justin: A new competitor arrives with a clean logo, sharp truck wrap, polished reviews online, and a website with stunning photos.

Gerritt: Guess who homeowners called first?

Justin: Bob didn’t lose because of skill. He lost because he wasn’t remembered.

Justin: So let’s help the Bobs of the world. Here’s a simple Brand Starter Checklist.

Justin: Pick a name that isn’t generic. Use one consistent color scheme.

Justin: Invest in a clean modern logo. Have a professional AI-built website.

Justin: Add professional before and after galleries. Put your brand everywhere customers look.

Justin: Maintain active Google Business reviews.

Gerritt: This is not rocket science. It’s showing you care how your business looks.

Justin: If you look sharp, you’ll attract sharp customers.

Justin: Another branding killer. No story.

Justin: Homeowners want to know who you are, why you care, and what makes you trustworthy.

Gerritt: Humans hire humans. Not logos.

Justin: Tell your story everywhere you show up online.

Justin: Family-owned since…

Justin: Veteran-led…

Justin: Started in my grandpa’s garage…

Justin: Anything that makes you memorable.

Justin: And let’s talk vehicles. Your fleet is a moving billboard.

Gerritt: If your truck wrap looks like a ransom note, we’ve got a problem.

Justin: Crisp branding. Big phone number. Website URL clear. That alone increases call volume significantly.

Gerritt: Also park the truck where people see it. Not hidden behind the garage.

Justin: Content matters too. Memes are fun, but homeowners want real photos, real reviews, real results.

Gerritt: And if your photos look like they were taken with a phone from 2004…

Justin: Borrow a better phone. Seriously. It’s free marketing.

Justin: Quick joke.

Justin: Why don’t marketing agencies play hide and seek with contractors?

Gerritt: Why?

Justin: [start with a light chuckle] Because good branding makes them impossible to hide.

Gerritt: Haha. That one was solid. Put it on a shirt.

Justin: Before we wrap Part 1, here’s the Brand Confidence Test. Answer these honestly.

Justin: If a stranger sees your truck, do they understand what you do instantly?

Justin: If someone looks you up, can they find you in under 5 seconds?

Justin: If someone leaves your website, will they remember your name tomorrow?

Justin: If a customer scrolls your photos, will they say wow or meh?

Gerritt: If you answered no to more than one, branding is your bottleneck.

Justin: And bottlenecks block revenue.

Justin: Coming up in Part 2.

Justin: The psychology of trust in branding.

Justin: A brand makeover roadmap.

Justin: How to build repeat recognition.

Justin: Technology that boosts branding.

Justin: Pricing power through brand strength.

Justin: A branding success case study.

Justin: Leadership mindset shift for brand-driven business.

Gerritt: In other words, we’re gonna turn invisible contractors into unforgettable ones.

Justin: Stay tuned. We’ll be right back after a short break.

Justin: And hey, if you’re a contractor looking to scale your business without adding more chaos… check out Contractor+.

Justin: Welcome back to Hard Hat Chat. We’re diving right into the psychology behind branding and why it decides whether a homeowner calls you or keeps scrolling.

Gerritt: Here’s the truth. Homeowners make decisions with emotion, then justify with logic.

Justin: And if something feels off, blurry photos, outdated logo, no info, their brain screams danger.

Gerritt: Those are trust signals. Branding provides them before you ever speak.

Justin: People hire who they remember.

Gerritt: Brand repetition equals familiarity. Familiarity equals trust.

Justin: Trust equals jobs.

Gerritt: Jobs equal revenue.

Justin: Revenue equals tacos.

Gerritt: Tacos are the ultimate KPI.

Justin: Branding increases pricing power.

Gerritt: Stronger brand, higher close rate, higher prices.

Justin: Because people believe premium brands deliver premium results.

Gerritt: The polished contractor gets less price pushback.

Justin: Meet Bella, owner of Skyline Roofing in Arizona.

Gerritt: Solid work. Yard-sale branding.

Justin: After a rebrand, clean logo, modern site, professional photos, wrapped trucks.

Justin: Within four months, lead volume doubled, average project size up 25 percent, close rate up 40 percent.

Gerritt: Same work. New perception.

Justin: Branding isn’t ego. It’s leverage.

Justin: Let’s fast-forward through the Brand Makeover Roadmap.

Justin: Define your differentiator.

Justin: Upgrade logo and colors.

Justin: Launch or refresh your AI website.

Justin: Standardize brand everywhere.

Justin: Showcase photos and testimonials.

Justin: Build Google Business presence.

Justin: Stay active and consistent.

Gerritt: Do this for 90 days and watch what happens.

Justin: Story is where emotion lives.

Gerritt: If your brand doesn’t tell a story, customers invent one.

Justin: Technology is branding now.

Gerritt: Tools signal professionalism.

Justin: Reputation is branding.

Gerritt: Reviews are your brand.

Justin: Ask for them. Every client.

Gerritt: Immediately. Make it easy.

Justin: Signs your branding needs help.

Justin: Clip art logo. Old website. Five fonts. Only referrals. People asking what you do again.

Gerritt: If that stings, it’s time.

Justin: Branding impacts hiring too.

Gerritt: Strong brands attract better talent.

Justin: Final mindset shift.

Justin: Old mindset. Only craftsmanship matters.

Justin: New mindset. Craftsmanship deserves to be remembered.

Gerritt: Branding is how quality gets credit.

Justin: If people can’t find you, your skills stay invisible.

Gerritt: Branding is business development.

Justin: Don’t be the best-kept secret.

Gerritt: Be the most recognized name in your market.

Justin: That’s Part 3 of Why Contractors Fail at Branding and How to Fix It.

Gerritt: Keep building. Keep branding. Keep being the contractor they remember.

Justin: Hard Hat Chat signing off. Catch you on the next one.