ISO INSIDERS

Breaking down 4K editing workflow for a video podcast.

Timestamps

00:00 Introduction and Game Downloads
00:31 Call of Duty Campaign Highlights
01:34 Gaming Setup and Live Streaming
02:32 Podcast and 4K Editing Discussion
04:56 Filming in 4K: Equipment and Workflow
08:18 Technical Details: HDMI vs SDI
13:11 Understanding 4K Standards
13:39 Practical Uses of 4K in Filmmaking
16:02 Nesting in Premiere Pro
19:28 Storage Solutions for 4K Editing
23:17 Compression and File Management
26:20 Final Thoughts and Recommendations

What is ISO INSIDERS?

Your teach talk, our insider edge!

But when you look at the
downloads, it actually downloads.

So

you made, uh,

black Ops ended that
downloads, um, modern warfare.

Modern one, three.

Three.

Yeah, the campaign.

Don't worry about my, you can
uninstall that 'cause you don't

need to play that right now.

But

I mean, I want to like,

well,

I like playing COD campaign.

Well

play, well uninstall one.

That way you have space,
unless you have like an actual

whole bunch of space for it.

But,

oh, my, my hard drive is like.

Two terabytes.

Oh, excuse me.

I have like 1.6 terabytes left.

I, I don't need, oh, well I

don't have all that luxury.

I think I had that on my laptop.

Oh.

On my gaming laptop, but not on my
desktop, but the Black Ops six campaign.

Yeah.

Holy crap.

I'm, I saw Bill

Clinton.

Yes.

And I hated the beginning of that
admission because trying to dodge

the freaking secret service agents.

Yeah.

I hated that.

I was like, ah, this is annoying.

Yeah.

But then once I got past
that part, oh shit got real.

Yeah.

I got, I got, well, it's funny,
um, I don't know how I saw it, but.

IS that end of that mission with
the motorcycles, bro, someone

leaked that footage months ago.

I was like, I've seen this before.

Oh, I thought it would be, I
thought that part would be longer.

Yeah, the motorcycle part.

Yeah.

It was very

short.

It's

short.

It was really short.

Was really short was I was
like, oh, this is awesome.

I can't, I got the pistol, blah,
blah, blah, and then all of a

sudden the SWAT truck shows up.

I'm like, yeah, I was
shooting at the girl too.

'cause I didn't realize.

That we were supposed to jump in there.

So I'm thinking that she's over there.

Like, I didn't even think it was her.

I just thought it was somebody
just leading out to shoot at us.

Oh.

So I'm over there shooting at her, and
then eventually I shoot the guy there

and they're like, press a to jump.

I'm like, oh, oops.

My bad.

Yeah.

But I did have to make some
adjustments to my video card.

It, it runs it really well.

Um, even in an older machine that I have.

Mm-Hmm.

Um, I, I put it in 2K.

Resolution 2K 1440 uhhuh, um, running at.

Uh, well the, it's, I'm playing on
a television, so I'm only, I'm like

capped at 60 Hertz, which is okay.

It's okay, it's fine.

It's not bad, but you know, I was like,
Hmm, maybe I should get me a better, it's

like I was thinking about buying a gaming
monitor and like removing the ACE is tough

gaming.

One is on sale right now.

Oh, okay.

Okay.

I, they had like a best, I had
like a three day gaming sale.

Yeah.

I've been thinking about like trying
to set up and like live stream my

video gaming and stuff like that.

And just like do it once a
week, like on a Saturday.

Oh, never.

I never talk about it on
the different podcast.

'cause right now we're supposed
to start holding another podcast.

And then right over here we're talking
like we're on a podcast for gaming.

Even though technically it's

not about gaming, man, this is

not about ga I mean,

although, well, what I
technically it could be.

Well, today's topic.

Is 4K editing.

So you know what?

Fuck it.

Let's just keep it as
part of this episode.

Yeah, because you know what,
welcome to the episode.

Yeah.

Welcome to Is Insiders.

Sorry, we got distracted by
Quality Duty six campaign.

Mm-Hmm.

Which, you know, we both love.

Did you, did you do the
next mission after in Iraq?

Yes.

I'm, I'm I.

I did the weird open world.

Yes.

I was like, how long did that take you?

Well, it didn't take me long because
I'm used to that type of, uh,

gameplay, especially in PC stuff.

So yeah,

I mean, I'm used to it too, but
that, that one mission took me like,

'cause I did every single objective.

Yes, I did.

I did all the objectives and
it took me like, I wanna say.

Two hours.

Yeah, roughly for the same for me.

I looked,

I looked up at the time and it was like
four in the morning and I was like,

ah, yeah, yeah, I need
to get off this thing.

I did like that aspect of it.

It's, it's very interesting.

They're trying to do that and I guess
I'm, I'm assuming that's part of,

like, I don't play the multiplayer,
so I'm assuming this is what the

multiplayer is like, so is like

model warfare three actually does have.

Open world aspects.

Okay.

Like a, it's a big chunk of it.

So it's like, here's the mission,
pick your weapons, pick the

way that you wanna play it.

Oh, okay.

So that was a big part of my warfare.

Oh.

I

was sniping everything.

Oh, see, I started off sniping

and I kept the RPG and I just,
I didn't even clear out camps.

I just destroyed the objective and left.

Oh, no, no, no.

I made sure to go in and
actually clear objectives.

Like I, I, well, I, I, like, I, I,
I went and actually clean up the

camp, um, because you know, you can
get the hidden caches and stuff.

Did you get all the audio recordings?

Uh,

I don't know if I, I mean, I,
I did, I did go in afterwards

and like, get stuff Mm-Hmm.

Um, but not all of them, so.

Oh, yeah.

No, I went

because I wanted to get the, uh, the
audio recordings to hear more about

the experiments that were happening.

Oh.

So I made sure to start off with the
sniper rifles and they keep my, uh, AI

would be like, no, don't take the shot.

I'd be like, screw you.

I'm taking a shot.

Shoot them and still jump in.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And start like lighting them up.

Mm-Hmm.

Sometimes.

I think at one point I unlocked
the Morar strike, so I would drop

the war strike with a heavy armor.

I do have that, and I have the helicopter
and then I got the helicopter last.

Yeah.

But anyway, that's gaming.

Sorry.

Um, yeah, so I gave me 4K,

so boom.

Uh, yeah, I played in 2K.

But, uh, so we're here to talk about, um.

The, uh, the last episode
that we did, which we talked

about the dj, uh, DGI drone?

Yeah.

Air S3 or is it three s?

Air three s.

Three s.

Okay.

And that one, if you've, if
you've been paying attention to.

Uh, the episode on YouTube,
you see it's in 4K mm-Hmm.

Um, and it's actually in
true 4K, not YouTube's 4K.

So just to be

clear, we filmed that in four,
in true 4K in true 4K with

the black magic, uh, cinema.

Four Ks, right?

Yes.

Pocket cinema, four Ks.

Yeah.

These cameras that you guys have sales us
on there are the older first generation

cinema pocket, um, black magic cameras.

They're like.

Made for like filmmakers.

Mm-Hmm.

Yada, you know, budget stuff.

Budget.

Which

personally I'm not a fan of
because there is no auto focus.

Right.

Which makes it annoying.

You do?

Yeah.

You do for me.

Yeah.

You do.

Like for these type of setups you
do, it's, I think it lends itself.

Um, but you have to know ahead of time.

You can't really move too far out.

Right.

You gotta

adjust the depths of field.

Right.

You gotta make sure this is what
happen, having an assistant.

Mm-Hmm.

Comes in handy, but
filming these on a Sunday.

Makes it so that, you know, we're
really doing this solo right together.

So,

and I think that's why it's, it is.

Sorry for that noise.

Whatever that is.

Probably my phone.

Hold on Lance.

Come on bro.

You know me.

Then mute

everything.

We

are on air and you over here got
your notifications going off.

We did a a, a full paw.

You did a full point.

Not me.

I am on vibrate.

Great.

I silence everything from my watch.

Oh,

aren't you, aren't you fancy, sir?

Yes.

Is that an Apple watch?

No, this is a Pixel.

This is the Pixel watch.

Oh, I have not seen
one of those in person.

Yeah.

Well this is the older version.

Yeah.

I still haven't seen it.

OLED screen.

I thought it was a

regular watch this entire time.

I know.

No.

Wow.

It looks, it looks

that way.

It looks that way.

I'm gonna still get the Galaxy S, the
whatever, whatever the latest one is,

like the six or something like that.

Because I was rocking the S3 mm-Hmm.

And the S3 no longer
works with my cell phone.

They stopped supporting it.

Oh

yeah, that was very annoying.

I have two Galaxy, but
that, but that's, anyway.

Um, so, um, I'm gonna talk about.

Okay.

Why, why we did it.

It was just why we filmed

in 4K.

So filming, filming it in 10 80,

right?

But the funny part is
we did film it in 10 80.

So what we're using here in the studio
is, um, a mixture of 4K cameras and

then 10 80 p recording equipment.

Mm-Hmm.

Like, so we use the A 10 mini
SDI, um, let see here, mini.

SDI ISO Extreme this, it's a, it's a lot.

The amount of time is
taking you to type this in.

We got just taking one to camera and point
to the one that we have in the studio.

In the studio.

Um, but.

This thing.

Um, brand new is like $1,500.

Right?

Good Lord.

Yeah.

It is expensive.

Um, is it worth it?

Uh mm-Hmm.

Oh, actually it's $1,300 on get on
set Age, or if you look, look around.

Oh, so this is the, uh, HDMI version.

That's why it's cheaper.

Not the SDI version.

The SDI version.

Let's see, how much is the SDI 15?

It goes to

$1,500 that you were talking about.

Okay, so

1500 bucks.

Um, the cool thing about the, what
you get as extra on the, um, SDI

version is you get four outputs.

Well, okay.

Instead of two outputs.

How about this, for those people
who may not know, what is the

difference between HDMI and SDI?

Uh, so SDI, this is, so they're
using three, um, this is SDI 3G.

There's also six G, 12 G,
and all the other Gs up.

So the G stands for generation.

Okay.

And.

For 3G it's, it, it would handle pretty
much, uh, HDMI, uh, HDMI, ver like, uh, 10

80 p up to like a hun whatever frame rate
you can throw at it, it wouldn't do it.

Um, and it's a, it's what
is called A BNC connector.

So it's like a, it's kinda like the,
remember the old school copper Yeah.

Cable thing you plug into
the back of the TV antennas.

Yeah.

Co

actual kibble.

Pretty much that's

what it is, except.

The cool thing about these,
they're cheaper and you can run

them over a very long distance,
um, without needing to power them.

And you can transfer video and
audio signal of these Mm-Hmm.

And they're bi-directional.

So you, so you can send and receive.

Okay, cool.

And you know, then it's a really cool, you
know, that's just the cables and the cool

thing is you plug 'em in and they lock.

So they don't fall out

like an a TI cable,
like HMI cables, right?

Yeah.

And

you can't really break them.

I mean, you could, but No, you
could definitely break those.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Like you can

definitely break, but you
have to really work at it.

You have to really, yeah.

Yeah.

And we, the way we have everything set up
is, uh, we have this as kind of like our

brains, but that's like a whole other.

Episode to like, explain this whole
ecosystem, because that's going to

require diagrams and all this other shit.

Do not put me to sleep.

Yeah, it's, it's a lot.

It is a lot that we will talk
about it in one of those episodes,

but not, not this one, but

remind me to bring a pillow for that.

Yeah,

we, we have a guest on for that actually.

Um, oh yeah.

Well, well, we have a guest on before and
then it will be an explanation afterwards.

An explanation afterwards.

But anyway, so.

The workflow is we record everything
in 10 80 p 24 frames per second.

Mm-Hmm.

That's our, uh, choice of like
frame rate and stuff like that.

So we have that like,
really cool cinematic look.

Cinematic look.

Mm-Hmm.

And it looks really, you
know, and we'll talk in heads.

It's not like we're doing,
uh, sports or whatever.

No.

Mm-Hmm.

So it's like, and.

The way this records everything is
in this isolation or iso where it's

like everything is all recorded
at the same time, so there's no

audio drift, there's no video drift
where it's like everything's in

lockstep because of a time code.

Yeah.

Um, and we get, I get a bunch of
files and then I go into Premiere.

I put everything together.

I'm not gonna go through that
and like just do my thing.

Yeah.

And that's pretty much what
I did with that episode.

I just, I edited like I
would normally edit Mm-Hmm.

The, the 10 80 p version and.

Was it harder to work with the 4K version
because you have bigger file sizes, so.

Not for me.

And it's because you have

a powerhouse of a company.

I have

a, yeah.

So this laptop that I have,
it's a $4,000 laptop, right?

It is the m Let see here, if
I can look into my, uh, very

expensive.

It is

very expensive.

It is it M two max?

Does that say

64 gigs of memory?

That's 64 gigs of, uh, RAM
or random access memory.

Jesus.

So that's a unified memory, right?

And.

It's kind of hard to see
because it's so damn small.

But that's just how they
represent this stuff.

And the cool thing about this is like
it's, it's the latest Thunderbolt

four connection, yada yada.

mm-Hmm.

Funny enough.

This is not a 4K laptop.

What's the screen resolution?

Uh, I can't tell you.

I don't know what it is.

I know it's retina display,
so I think it's a little, I

think it's above 4K, maybe

2K.

No, I think it's above it actually.

I think it's like a 5K resolution
or something like that.

It's weird.

I don't know.

It's 'cause it's a four by three.

Uh, yeah.

Ratio.

Yeah.

For, for the, for the monitor.

So it's like for the stuff, but
the, the challenge that I ran into

it, like it's easy enough to record
in 4K from your cameras, right?

Yeah.

The challenge I, I ran into
was, well, we also include our

laptop screens in our recordings.

True.

How do you get 4K out of a laptop?

Right?

Well, you need a 4K laptop,
which we discovered was your work

laptop, but not your gaming laptop.

Which is so surprising because I
thought it was the other way around.

I thought, I thought my work laptop
was 10 80 and my gaming laptop was 4K.

Right?

And they're like, Nope, nope, nope.

It's the other way around.

I was like, I know one of these is 4K.

Damn it.

Right?

And when I say 4K, um, there are
people who get confused about

the resolution of 4K, right?

Mm-Hmm.

So 4K is four times the
resolution of 10 80 p.

Correct.

So you just add that up.

I think it's like 40 32.

It's like

38 40 by, there's actually
two versions of 4K.

Yeah, there's like a weird 38 40

by whatever.

Yeah.

4K.

Let's see, reso, so I'm gonna
get the na, the numbers correct.

Uh, da da da da.

See, like, you see it's
like 21 60, 21 60 p.

Yeah.

They, they consider that 4K,
but it's like ultra hd really.

Um.

If you ever go into YouTube and you have
the premium edition, and then you go into

the resolution, you'll see 2116 Ha ha.

You gotta pay.

See?

Yeah.

Well, you know what?

I'll pay for my YouTube
premium ad free experience.

Yeah, very much

so.

4K according to Wikipedia
is 38 40 by 2160.

Ah yes.

At 16 by nine aspect ratio.

Oh, I look at the other part.

Where, which one?

The

dominant 4K standard.

Whereas the movie projection industry uses
a 40 96 by 2160, so that's the difference.

Oh, Jesus Christ.

So 38, 40, like my laptop
is 38, 40 by 20 by 60.

Yeah.

But I know that, you know, I think.

One of my cameras can actually
shoot in 40 96 by 2160.

Right?

That's if you're, you know, I wouldn't say
do that, do that if you're getting paid.

Well,

I mean, is it, is there
a noticeable difference?

I don't think there is.

Honestly.

Yes.

So is there,

oh yeah.

Oh yeah.

It's, so, one thing, one thing
you, one of the biggest thing you

get out of having a 4K file is
one, they're really large, true.

And two, um, you get,
you now get to punch in.

Way closer.

Mm-Hmm.

To your subject and without
losing, uh, resolution.

You don't lose any details
and stuff like that.

Oh yeah, that's standard.

What I would do with, when, so when I'm,
I was asking the question about, um,

the 38 40 versus the 40 96, if there
was a big difference between those two.

Oh, but no, no, no.

I, when I shoot four, besides that, I

mean, the only thing
that's different is like,

it's like a couple

information.

I think there's not that much of
a difference amount of pixels.

But when I shoot 4K,
no, I do the same thing.

You do.

Like, especially if it's a 10 80 p export.

Mm-Hmm.

No, I will.

For punch ins to break up the shot.

Mm-Hmm.

Of course.

You know, there is no
loss of quality really.

So No, I completely agree with you
filming in 4K, even if I know my export

is going to be 10 80 and just being
able to punch in because the old version

of that was film in 10 80 mm-Hmm.

And then punch in the seven 20
where when you punched in at

seven 20, you still have that.

So you'd have a softer look.

Right.

Because you don't have
as much information.

Mm-Hmm.

So, yeah, I completely understand that.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And you know, this is for like people
who are listening to, they may not know.

Why that's important or not, but it's,
you know, that's, that's if you, that's if

you're going to be doing this other thing.

Mm-Hmm.

And, you know, and like I said,
one of the biggest issue was like,

well, how do we get our 4K mo uh,
uh, uh, signal from a laptop Mm-Hmm.

Into the stuff.

And that's where apparently we had 4K HDMI
splitters laying around the, the studio

didn't even know because it was so cheap.

I

mean, we have a lot of things laying
around the studio that we keep

discovering years after the fact that
we end up printing and we're just

like, oh, we had this the entire time.

Right.

So we should probably use it.

You know, so what I did was I split
that signal Uhhuh one into my laptop

to OBS and recorded that in 4K mm-Hmm.

And then another one
went out back to the aam.

And then that allowed me to then,
after I've edited everything, 'cause

I nest everything in Premier Pro.

Mm-Hmm.

All I have to do is replace the
nested part and then change the

sequence, um, uh, resolution.

So that does take more time

for people who don't know what nesting is
because not everybody is experienced in

like, well, they've been premiere or back,

but yeah.

How would you explain nesting?

So nesting is a, is like a
non-destructive way to, of editing.

Mm-Hmm.

So say you, uh, and I'm specific
to talk about Premier Pro, you

get all your files in Mm-Hmm.

Organized and however
you like to organize it.

And then you create a sequence
from that particular file.

Mm-Hmm.

By right clicking on it
and everything like that.

Well, then what that does is,
um, technically it's not nested.

But what I do is I create
each file its own sequence.

Mm-Hmm.

And then because everything is in time
code lockstep, I don't have to worry

about adjusting wherever things go.

And then I then create
a, uh, another sequence.

Mm-Hmm.

From one of the sequences.

I just duplicate it and then rename
it, and then remove the tracks.

And then I bring in the
sequence into that sequence.

Now, now it's called nesting.

So you're just kind of
like taking your file.

Put it into sequence and then taking that
sequence and put it into another sequence.

So for those of you who are
familiar with After Effects,

pre is actually the same thing.

Pre-com?

Yes.

Yeah, pre comps.

'cause I've been working with
After Effects for since Right.

Like 20 years now.

Yeah.

So I am, and I live in After Effects.

That's a pre thing.

It's the same thing.

Lance, I thought you said
you had silenced your stuff.

Look at that.

Look at that.

You have your phone going off.

It's over there somewhere.

You're in the podcast.

I don't

even know where it is.

Google Pixel fail.

I'm sorry.

Go ahead.

But what ends up happening is, um, it
means that then you can make changes

in your nested sequence and then it
will, uh, affect the overall sequence.

Okay.

Um, it al it immediately.

So you can put in things like lower thirds
color correction, um, audio corrections.

Titles, whatever, all stuff.

And if you need to

make changes to the actual individual
file, like the original file, you can

still do that after the fact you can,

right?

And that's exactly what I did.

I just replaced, I, I
brought in my 4K footage.

Mm-hmm.

Replace all of them.

Mm-Hmm.

Um, now I would say please make sure all
your other stuff is also that can support

a 4K sequence, meaning your lower thirds.

Your onscreen, um, watermarks,
those type of things.

'cause if they don't,
they're gonna look real tiny.

So I had to remake all of that stuff.

Uhhuh not realize, oh shit, yeah, I
should have done this ahead of time.

So the animation looks a little
different, a little bit more

crisper and stuff like that.

And at a, so it's like, you
know, but that took more time.

But had I had done that ahead of
time, this edit would've been.

Way smoother.

Um, so I would say make sure you
do that as, as a, as a way of

doing it and stuff like that.

So for who would this be
useful for, in what situations?

Um, I would say this is in, in
a way this is more aesthetic

just for a better look.

It just

look and.

If you are a bigger channel Mm-Hmm.

Or you have a bigger audience or
whatever, and you're trying to like,

oh, I've upgraded because now I have
a million followers or whatever.

Cool.

You know, like if you have is that, you
know, and it's like, if that's what the

look you're trying to look for and stuff
like that, if you wanna just look crisper,

you like, you wanna look, you're evolving.

Mm-Hmm.

Your content.

Um, that's one way of doing it.

Mm-Hmm.

Um.

And like, you know, uh, it is
not like you're buying red.

What was it?

Red cameras and shooting on that.

We're not gonna get a red camera.

Look, bro.

Come on man.

No, them, them files are mm-Hmm.

I, I am not Linus Tech Tips.

I mean, I'm NKHB.

Remember I was a Nikon bought red, so you
can actually get a Nikon camera now and

get the same, uh, same kind of quality.

Yeah, that looks, that look
like it shot in a red camera.

Oh God.

Not saying that I'm gonna do
that because I shoot on Sony,

but still I'm just saying.

If you're open to that, you can,

and I, I, I would, I would preface
all this with saying, make sure

you have very fast storage.

Okay.

Oh, work with proxies.

There is that too.

So, you know, we did record in the
camera, um, ProRes proxy, right?

This will keep the file size down
much, much smaller, although I think

it added up to both cameras, 56 gigs.

Something like that.

Right?

Not, not each, just together.

I'm so glad we did that.

Uh, service storage upgrade.

'cause good luck.

Oh yeah.

We have

a lot of storage.

We have a lot of storage.

Yeah.

And the, the, the, funny enough, um.

The, uh, the version for,
lemme see if I open it up.

The, for the laptop footage, it
was less than a, a, a, a terabyte.

I mean, a gig, a

terabyte certainly be
less than a terabyte.

It was less than a gig, right?

So let me see here.

If I look at

episode.

This part is not fun, but just to
show you what I was talking about.

So 4K capture.

There we go.

It is kind of hard to see, but

nine, my bad.

87.

My bad.

I was wrong Megabytes.

It's just about a gig.

That's the, that's the laptop.

This is mine.

Mine is 54 gigs.

And yours is, yeah, roughly 54.

Separate a hundred.

Yes.

So I was, I like over a
hundred gigs of just footage.

And that's just those two cameras.

And this is proxy.

Whoa.

This is Perez proxy.

Not even the full quality.

No, not even like LT Or 4, 4 4 or four.

Two.

Two.

These are all just different
codecs and stuff like that.

And I, and the good thing I had
to do black magic raw, which

would've been insane, but.

See I have really fast storage, right?

Mm-Hmm.

I have NVME sand disc Pro blade.

Oh, the, um, yeah, the
mags, the, the mags.

Would you like so much?

It's just right here.

Yeah.

I dunno if you guys can see
it, but it looks like this.

Uh, there it goes.

It's put it back to, there goes to focus.

So this is the transporter
and the mag is in here.

Yeah.

Don't pull it out yet.

Yeah, no, I can't pull this out because,

um, this is, um, this is how you,
and this is the four terabyte.

How much was that again?

So the four terabyte, if you
get it on sale for like three

something, I mean, 'cause

when you get four terabytes
of space and it's ing right.

I think it's worth it.

Yeah.

If

you, I think on not on sale is like
500 bucks or something like that.

It's expensive.

And then the transport is 50 bucks.

Side note, did you know that?

I think SanDisk release a
two terabyte, um, SD card.

No, it's

on sale for 300 bucks.

Oh shit.

Didn't really say nothing, but
it's compatible with like the

mirrorless cameras and stuff.

Oh, two dope terabytes.

That's dope.

That is dope.

I'm about to buy one.

So with this thing, this thing,
we have ReadWrite speeds up to

eight K footage sort of thing.

Wow.

And it's a 20 gig transfer.

Cable.

Oh, that's why you're always
uploading stuff so fast now.

Exactly.

Makes sense.

I could transfer stuff like
literally these two cameras.

Mm-Hmm.

It took less than a minute for each
one to transfer 50 something gigs.

But this is you plugging
directly into a server.

Uh,

this is not even a server.

I have to plug it directly into
the computer, so, oh, okay.

This particular computer
has only Thunderbolt four.

Connectors on it.

So obviously the, the faster the better.

Mm-Hmm.

You know, um, so I would say make
sure you have a lot of storage

and make sure it's fast storage.

Because even when I go and I edit at home,
I have a hub that I plug in and it's a

direct MVME over 40 gig, um, uh, connector
that goes directly into my computer.

So,

so just to recap, you said
this is for bigger like content

creators who probably like.

Yeah.

You know, a few hundred thousand
followers to be like a million

followers up and above to show
that they've done their increase.

But for smaller content critic, this,
the whole thing is not necessary.

Right?

It's not necessary.

It's, it's, I mean, unless you, if
you got the budget, you got you, you

got the space and time to do all this.

Go for it.

What what about the, uh,
what about the other hack?

I remember I was telling you about that.

I heard that I've tried myself.

Oh, the res.

Yeah.

Well, you take the 10 80 p footage, but
then you tell YouTube it's 4K and it

gives you that extra bump in quality.

That's not quite 4K, but Right.

It just looks better.

What do you think about that?

Uh,

I would say go for it.

Like, but again, you
still need a poor man 4K.

Right.

You still need a, a processor that can
handle, you know, like, 'cause even

rendering this out took instead of like.

The 10 AP version takes less
than five minutes to render.

Mm-Hmm.

This one took 40, no, uh, almost
20 minutes to render, but it

took me five minutes to upload.

But 'cause you, you know what the final
file size was for the whole episode.

18 gigs versus a couple
versus three gigs usually.

Can we compress that?

That is the compressed version.

Wait, like did you run that
through hand break or something?

No, I did it through a media encoder.

I'm wondering what, I'm wondering what
would happen if we take that, file the

file and compress it and send it through.

Like the one I used, jp um, JPEG
mini, remember that one too?

That compresses video?

Yeah.

So I wonder if that could like, maybe
even split that in half like it did the

other video I sent you earlier maybe.

Yeah.

I mean, and that's another thing too.

I'm curious to see if that would work.

That's another thing,
compression and stuff like that.

Like, but like I said, even then you
still need a decently fast computer.

Yeah.

With a good processor and
stuff like that and storage.

Like you, you just need,
everything needs to be fast.

Like, you know, this is like.

If you got money to burn, you
wanna have, if you want it to look

good and you want it done fast,
you're gonna spend a lot of money.

A lot of money, right?

Yeah.

Because if I were to like add everything
up with everything that I have, mm-Hmm.

Right.

Let's see.

4,000 laptop, $1,500 cameras.

With what, $500 lenses?

Mm-Hmm.

With another $1,500, um, kaching.

And then a six, uh, six.

No, this thing costs like $400.

The, the audio interface.

$400 mics.

I

never gotten the software.

I'm not even counting the software,
which is like 60 bucks a, a

month for that sort of thing.

Auto Padd, another, uh, auto
Padd, another 40, uh, 50.

Opus clips, which we haven't paid for yet.

But, um, that's another, that's another
episode we really wanna talk about.

Like, when it comes to, I
think Opus clip is pretty

good.

That, that did, that definitely
does deserve its own episode.

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah.

How, and then using the

script and that, that's a
whole other, uh, episode.

We can do like a comparison.

Ooh, that's good.

Um, I like, and it's,
it's not the cheapest.

And plus I have Verizon
Vios a gig up and down.

That's 70.

Well, I got a discount,
so it's 70 bucks a month.

Um,

why the hell am I paying a hundred bucks?

Uh, I don't know.

But, um, but I'm saying it's like,
it's, it, I mean, plus I also, you

know, I have like cat e sevens and
shit, I mean, which I apparently found

out Cat E seven doesn't really matter.

It's six a, six EA is
better, but whatever.

Um, it, it's like all that added up.

Sure.

And also if you have tons of experience
like I do, and then you know what the

hell you're doing and stuff like that,
then you can achieve the same thing.

So it is a lot, it's, there's a
lot in talent, a lot in knowing

how to use your equipment and a
lot in how to, you know, achieve.

I think it comes on to work within
your means and, you know, right.

You're not gonna get the perfect
look unless you're just sitting there

really trying to spend that much money.

Right.

But there are ways to get it to, you
know, 80% of the way for what you need.

'cause I think the average person
won't really care about the final

look of it as long as they absorb
the value of your information.

Yeah.

And that the audio sounds good.

Yes, we know, we know viewers
are very, uh, specific about, you

know, their audio sounding good
and Chris, which we do work on.

But when it comes to video,
you know, if it's 10 80, it

it's, it's full hd Let Rock.

Yeah.

Like, I would say for the most part,
I mean, a lot of companies, uh, a lot

of broadcasters, they, they broadcast
in 10 80 p Some of them don't even do

10 80, they do seven 20 or nine 60.

It's like, um, but yeah,
you know, so you have to be.

Be be mindful.

Be de de mere.

Stop, stop it.

You know what?

I'm leaving.

Goodbye.

I'm getting off this episode.

You just, you just
weren't that damn saying.

Yeah.

So, and that's why I also, this
also goes back to our first episode.

Why, you know, 4K is a, is a bit hard
to do with when it comes, if you're

trying to stream in that sort of thing.

Yeah.

Don't get ahead of yourself, you're fine.

It's like, don't do it unless
it's, don't do it unless

somebody's paying you to do it.

Put it that way.

But anyway, um,

so thank you guys for tuning into this
episode of where we, you know, we, we

have rambled on from Black Ops to 4K to.

All sorts of things today.

Yeah.

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