R.O.F.L. (Reach Out For Love)

It's the last episode of ROFL for Spring 2024! We're in a bubbly mood now that the sun is out longer and the heat is still pleasant. We talk about our experiences as test-takers and lifelong learners, pivot into the world of nonprofit organizations, and - shocker! - criticize capitalism along the way.

See you in September - later days!

What is R.O.F.L. (Reach Out For Love)?

with Basma Awada

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What's up everybody? Welcome to our

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show about motivation and being yourself. That's right. What does R O L?

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Reach out for loads show about motivation and love being yourself being yourself. How do you be yourself?

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Let's find out.

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What's up everybody? We jumped into that one didn't even wait for that fate. Yeah, it's the last episode of the semester. Hey, yeah. But don't be sad. I'm not.

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I'm not at all now that I'm looking forward to the last of the semester. But I am just been in a good mood the last couple of weeks. So it's a good event, you know, the end of the semester, actually, you know, it's kind of a stressful event. But it's so good event, I guess a stressful like, I was never one to be like a,

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like a stressed out test taker or anything like that, right? I always just did well taking tests, even if I was like, even though if I was bad at the class, it was like, I wasn't freaking out about like, Oh, my God, the tests because typically people had study packets, or like, you just study your notes. And I took good notes. So I was thinking about what you said last time about the tests and how like, they don't really like analyze your knowledge. No, it's just regurgitation. Yeah, let me let me just add to that, because like recently, because I've gotten older when I was younger,

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back in those days, yeah. When I was younger.

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Whenever when I started school, my main goal was pass the exam. So I like I didn't really focus on the content as much as I did the actual passing of the exam. I understand. Much better back then on the actual exams than I did on regurgitating regurgitating the content. Yeah, so now I'm like, older and I went back to school because I you know what, someone told me recently what they were like, oh, what? So you got all these degrees? Ha, like, yeah, and then he's like,

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Oh, it was worse. Oh, worse than that. Like, yeah. I guess some people never grow up. I was like, why? I feel that that's crazy. How do you equate getting more education as not grow? It was like, it was so random. And then I just like I was like, okay, they don't they don't mean that across the table. Like that comment would suggest, you know what I mean? Like, whatever they're saying is like not intrinsic in those words, because it's not because I was, I'm graduating this semester with from my associates degree, and he just like, so like, dumbfounded. What do you call it conference? Did you only is this context only thinking that you only have an Associates? Is that it? No, no, he knew that you have like a bevy of degrees at this point. Yeah. He's like, Oh, you got a master's in two bachelors, and Associates. And he's like, now you're doing music. And then I was just like, yeah.

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See this, as I'm thinking, it's like a false equivalency that you getting, like, more and more and more education, like is a good thing. But is he trying to say it's bad because like, I'm working, you should be done with all of the school by now. It's like, it's weird to me. I think like continuing your education is weird. Yeah, it was a weird place he was speaking from, but like, it got me thinking, well, I already I'm finishing my associates for music now. Right. And I'm just like, thinking about what he said. And then I was just thinking about what you said about you know, exams. Yeah, I'm just like, I'm enjoying school more. So along the lines of actually learning material now, like when I was learning it back then, but it was like, were young, you were learning to the test? Yeah, learning for the sake of like, all the knowledge I'm gaining. Yeah, so that was what I was trying to get out before. Yeah. And like, there is good and bad stress to what you were saying. But there's that tipping point where it's like, if you get too much bad stress, and it's just like, comes from difficult places, then like, yeah, it's gonna make that, that learning to the test that we often are already part of, like, even worse. Yeah. And I agreed with you. Back then, like for what you said, I was just like, I guess I didn't think about I thought about it more. There's nuance about stress. Like, I was thinking about it more because like recently, I decided to audit a chemistry exam. You cannot an exam sorry. Exams. That's crazy. I went into chemistry just because I was focused on music, but I kind of wanted to get a refresh on chemistry. Interesting. And yeah, it's well, what about Okay, so a side tangent? What? While pursuing music, what prompted you to be like, let me throw this chemistry in here. Like, what was that? Well, okay, so, is it a dumb reason? I was younger. Okay. I think it's, I think it's not logical reason. Okay. That's cool. I mean, there's some logic in there, but like, I don't I write a web brain. Gotcha. Okay. Well, what's How do you get there? When I was younger, I wanted to start an organization to help young adults, right? And I go to school, I get my economics degree, I go to work and I'm making good money and I'm saving money so I could start my my program. I could decide, oh, you know what, I'm gonna go get my Master's for nonprofits going and I'm actually I wasn't even going for my masters.

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I was just taking some nonprofit classes because I was actually going to start a business. Okay, so and the business was basically a nonprofit, or some type of like orphanage. And then I learned in my in my program that orphanages are terrible. And that all like the history of orphanages, yeah, it's extremely dark and that nonprofits are like the thing. So I'm learning more about nonprofits. And then I realized I need more money. And then I realized I need people involved the network of support, you need to do stuff. Yes, routes is pretty extensive. Yeah. And then so then I was like, Okay, well, when I was younger, I used to write stories and sing and write songs and like, do art. So and my dream also as a kid was to, like, have a pediatrics office, like, not be a doctor base. And, like, have my graphic novels in the waiting room? Because when I was younger, where's all the games? Because, okay, so you're not not only are you like, this is gonna be my office. And this will be my main focus. But I'm also going to pursue this other passion, so it can also have touches on me. And another place like, yeah, cutting your art in books and whatever, in your own office. Yeah. And it's kind of it just keeps on adding. But basically, when I graduated from my master's, I was like, I'm not ready to start a business. Yeah, I felt like I wasn't ready. But I feel like you're never really ready. No, I've never I've realized that I will never truly feel quote, unquote, ready for something until like, I'm already, like, taking steps in doing it. And then I'm realizing like, Oh, I'm just picking up the skills and the knowledge, right? Like, as I go exactly well enough that it's like, oh, I am ready. But it's like the stuff that you need to like finalize, being ready, I don't think can happen until you start really engaging with whatever the thing is. Yeah, I think it was difficult for me because no one really like, you know, you know, when you have like an influence, I had no influence in my life to like, a certain thing. All okay? You mean like autonomy. The only influence I had was my mom wanted me to be a doctor in a way where she studied hygiene. For dental hygiene. She was a dental hygienist. Yeah. And so like, that was a good that was really good for me, because it made me learn how to study very well. Okay. And but, but then, like, at the when I was younger, I didn't want to go into that route. So I just studied other things. And now I'm older and I'm like, you know, it's not as bad as I thought school is pretty nice. Yeah, I was gonna say it sounds it sounds like you learned a lot of like the foundations of like learning especially like, like a richer subject matter learning from your mom being in opposition. And then you just applying those like that methodology to studying whatever you truly like not specifically what she wants you to do. Yeah, cuz she she traveled not traveled. She actually wasn't raised on born and raised in America like me. Oh, yeah. She came in from another country. So she has she gone from Lebanon, Lebanon, those? Yeah, she she was learning a totally new language. She was learning a totally new culture to school. She studied, she worked hard. Now, it's really hard to do that for those people who do that, like props to you guys. And it's and not only is it difficult, like for all the reasons on the ground, it's also difficult for all of like, the, the, like invisible sociological reasons, right. There's a lot of there's a lot of like, frequently unspoken, or on unacknowledged and blatantly unacknowledged, like,

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difficulties that get put in front of getting put get put in front of like immigrants that are you know, doing the best for themselves. Yeah. And thinking about it. She didn't really have a, I just realized that she doesn't really have in what did I just say, that support what the what was the word I used earlier, was support network or a network or something custom. Someone who she looks up to base Oh, like a role model role model like to lead her to become a dental hygienist. She just became a dental hygienist. And I'm wondering if it was because you know, off opportunity she wasn't able to have initially because I know she wanted to be a doctor when she was younger. Okay, so that's probably why she was pushing me to be a doctor. But I went when I was on she knew I was very bright. Yeah. And but when I got older, I was just like, ah, you know, I guess I could do it now. So now, that's why I took chemistry cuz I was thinking like, oh, I guess maybe I'll take a look and see what I'm what I'm missing out on. Yeah, it's definitely a totally different world than the music and the writing and the business. Really, you think

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this might be different from dental hygienist or

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anything medical? Because when I was younger, I didn't really pay attention to the classes. It was mostly about the exams, remember? Yeah. So so now I'm older and I'm like actually looking at the actual content. And we're looking first you were like, concerned about looking good on paper. And now you're like, I'm trying to have an expanded like an open mind and knowledge. It's funny, because when I was younger, I didn't really pay attention to the whole.

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The whole, like, any classes really, like I've just I was just there.

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But I knew that like, I wasn't paying enough attention, which is why I was like, you know, medical is not for me. I'm not. I'm not like fully in this class.

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So you're not like fully engaged with like, all this. medical stuff is cool. Like, yeah, I didn't want to be a doctor if like I wasn't fully engaged mentally. That's how I was with math because it wasn't like, I was good with math up until like algebra two up and through Algebra Two, and even like some trigonometry, it was kind of cool because the unit circle is like really easy to figure it out. But besides that, like I capped off at like the end of high school math, I was like, I'm good, right? Because it's not like I don't I don't appreciate math for what it is because like, I'm not stupid. No, I'm working on that. But like, I cannot, I cannot like grasp and like fully

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Deep Dive into math just too much does not like, I feel like you have to be like fully motivated or packaged in some way. I just don't have a math brain lay. I just don't have like my my usage of my usage of numbers and math is more the everyman usage and not the like, I'm doing complex equations every day type of stuff. And I think the school system understands that because out of all the degrees I got, none of them have required me to take math 181, which is like calculus basically. Yeah, because they didn't require it. And you know, me, I love taking classes. I was like, Yeah, I'm not taking that. Yeah, you're like, I'm not even challenging myself. I'm not even accidentally giving myself like, oh, take the advanced class. No, yeah, no, no, no, no, that was me. I was struggling, struggling other Oh, no, that was like, I literally made that mistake. So when I, when I was testing into college, and everything they recommended based on my SATs or AC T scores, whichever one I took both.

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They were like, oh, yeah, put them in math. 124. And I'm like, Yeah, sure. Okay. Okay.

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I took that. And then I failed it because the teacher was

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the care, the teacher didn't care. And the teacher assistant was really cool. But he couldn't make up for the fact that the teacher didn't care. I failed that class. And I like I very rarely ever got f. So that was really difficult for me to face at the time. Now. I'm like, whatever, of course, I got an F because I tried and I failed. You know, that's just like coming back to the type of exams that like we get. Yeah, how it doesn't really like like, for example, that chemistry class I was I audited it because he was multiple choice exams. And I'm used to written like for science, I mean, I'm used to written exams where you get some partial credit here because they can tell you like word prompts and stuff. Yeah, like you get some of the exact like slang. Okay, what do you want from me? Yeah, I can give you what we've been studying. Yeah, no, but there's so much more to it. So, you know, I'm not saying that like, Oh, I did bad because it's not, I'm just saying like, you know, our brains think differently. Sometimes. Sometimes. My mind doesn't click with my professors. But I was talking with a friend about that. And they said that that is a bad mentality, because what part of it but because I was telling them I was like, maybe I'm just not, you know, like, at that level of like science brain or math? Oh, I haven't leveled up my brain. Yeah. Like, maybe I'm not there yet. And then they were like, No, you just didn't study.

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Sometimes it's you didn't study and then sometimes it's just like, Man, this is not where my aptitude lies. Okay. Yeah, exactly. Like what I'm saying with that math 124. I could have at least like, I feel like if I had a better professor, I could have at least gotten like a anywhere from like a C plus to like a B. And I know is that was fine with me. But again, 124 was what I was recommended to be placed into, but the minimum that I needed to, like, get the gen ed requirement was actually 120. And exactly, so I just the next semester, I just did 120. And it was basically like a high school math, like all four years in the semester refresher practically. And I got a B plus in that. And I was like, see there it is. Like, I also didn't have to go for the the step higher just because I placed in it, right. I know myself better than but it also depends on the teacher. Yeah, it really does. Teacher for 120 was much better. Yeah, he wasn't trying to be like, he wasn't trying to just be like,

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impressive, but distant and uncaring professor, he was very much just like, hello, I'm a student and teaching and here's math, one to one, you know, I don't know if it's if it's the teacher necessarily, if there's a better or not better teacher, I think you connected with that with the 120. Teacher better than the 124. Teacher. Yeah. I also engage with material easier because I already was familiar with a law. Yeah, well, yeah. So yeah, there's other factors that go into it. But there's also like the factor of like, sometimes you do better on certain exams, because the teachers more lenient? Or is that less lenient? Like you never know, if you're how you're going to do? No, that's what I was talking with my friend about. You know, you know, it depends I could study, but then like, sometimes I just do terrible, even when I study really hard, and you're like, we'll study hard.

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Right? Yeah. And I totally understand. So if you guys are out there and you're worried about it, just study, just just so you guys know, no, it's okay. It's understandable. Yeah, I feel bad. I honestly can't give any kind of advice or insight about like, test taking and study tips. Because like, I just when I was a student, I just always had my laptop and open the Word doc and took notes and wrote down whatever the professor said, and wrote on the whiteboard a lot to your point of like, just different professors teach differently. I had a, I had a philosophy one or two professor who I cannot remember his name right now, but he was really cool. Eric something I believe he was really cool. And he basically said, Hey, you may have noticed when you were looking for your book list for the semester, that there's no books listed for this class, even though there should be and that's because I know a lot about this subject and I don't like the way the book teaches it. So I'm going to teach it my way because I know what concepts we're trying to hit at and I know I have like a tried and true method and that comes to the leniency because like another harder teacher, knees go straight for the book.

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You don't understand that the way the book explains it that you don't understand it. All right? Yeah. So he was basically like, yeah, do you don't need a book and literally just write down whatever I write him on the board. Write that down. That's how I do it. And I think also, you know, what, you guys, if you guys are out there and you're struggling, like with exams in general, just just try to like, find a way to be more interested in the topic. Try to like breach it from different or broach it from different, different present Find. Find someone who's super passionate about Yes. And that will really help because I feel like that's helped me there is a student in my class that really digs whatever the subject is, and I don't know. I don't know why. But it seems to be like, you learn the best when either you or someone else is like teaching it back to each other. Yeah, you get to see like, the bright side of the situation. Yeah, because they are the bright side. They're pretty bright, as they say, Oh, yeah. Hey, fun there. Yeah. I have a friend when I'm doing piano because it's the last semester hopefully for piano, but he's like a piano major. And he was whenever he talks about piano, it is like, he is in a totally other world. And I'm just looking at him. I'm like, this is the most stressful thing, dude. I'm so happy. Like you just

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said he was like, play this crazy pieces. And what you can't do this. And then

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well, he knows why. But when I asked him, I was like, how did you practice this? He's like, Yeah, but like, he'll sit for hours and practice, and he'll just be having the time of his life. Yeah, he just has fun playing. Yeah. And that's just like, for someone who's struggling like me with piano, when I watch someone so passionate about it, I'm like, there is a bright side of the office. No, and honestly, that's how I feel about like, where I want to go. Because I can't believe I'm the one saying this. But I'm like, in my career path, like wanting to do music director stuff with a radio station and like, be the person to, like, listen to and like vet the music that goes on the airwaves, I think is really fun. Because it's like, Oh, you just get to pick the music and you get to pick the vibes. That's so cool. You're forcing other people to listen to you guys reverse.

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Reverse gatekeeping I like cool things. I'm not confident about many things. But I know I like cool things. Because when I have people over power, because when I have people over, they see my stuff. And they're like, you have cool stuff. And I'm like, I know I have cool stuff. Do you want to enjoy my cool stuff with me? And they're like, Yeah, I do. Oh, they're forced to force Tuesday. They're enjoying it already. I don't sure they enjoy.

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Okay, but it's it's really that positive feedback loop of like, there is a position where person just puts music on the air and everyone vibes and has a good time and listens to the station or, yeah, that's like, matches your likes and dislikes. And yeah, so the way that you're saying, like, the way that you're saying that, your buddy playing piano is just like having the time of his, if he's just practicing, I'm having time in my life, when I can just be that 14 year old me again, who's just scouring the internet for music. And just being a nerd about like, that's what genres are. And that's what that sounds like. And like, oh, and like I probably could with time and study, like tease out all these all these musical concepts in this theory and all this cool stuff. Why Does it tickle my brain? And that's really cool. But I really like that layman's thing of just like, dude, this song slaps really put that on. Oh, you're right, that does slap I want that in my playlist. I want that in my ears. It's like, that's what I want. That's, I love doing that. Yeah, like going back to those moments where we do something that reminds us of just like, like, like you said, just makes us happy. Yeah, I think like school is that for me, where I just show up and I'm just like, I've never like to show up and show out. My teachers are like, do you just hang out here? I was, uh, yeah, basically would honestly, I'm okay. I'm totally gonna out myself if I ever find myself in a homeless situation. But I'm, like, working in the studio space is so dope for me. And I love it so much. But I also realized literally how much space I have. And I'm like, I could put a mattress in here. If I thought I could do that. I think everyone thinks about that. Because there's, like, people think about that for their cars. Like, well, like, I could just live in my car. You know, no one wants to do that. Right? Like, no one's trying to like it. But it's just like, I could make this work. Yeah, exactly. If I if I was in such a bad place. Vegas, though. It's hot as hell. Yeah. But you can do it in the studio. Yeah, there's air conditioning here. My boss was saying,

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Hey, Jason. Hey, what's up? I'm not totally not going to squat in the studio space. If I become homeless for some reason, or Willie Norte is where reserved myself a parking spot out back and be like, what? Why is he always there? You're sharing those like, inner thoughts that no one ever shared? Oh, yeah. No, no, no, no. Like, I know, I'm not. I have I've no malice in my heart. So I have no problem sharing. Yeah, just very much in the sense of like, no, because even with the street, the shrinking of like, third, the loss of third spaces. So we're basically people are finding themselves more and more stuck where their only viable options on a day to day basis are be at home or be at work. It's like, right, I'm that person that if my work life balance is going to be a balance. I'm going to find those. I'm going to find that comfort in both spaces. You know that some workplaces actually want that. They want you to live there. No, I know. It's bad. Very bad. They are trying their best. It's so cool, because we have the state of the art building and we have we have a gym and we have a ping pong table and we

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And we have a vending machine that we like, it's totally not a ripoff. And I'm thinking of starting late, where you actually there are places that are doing, you could get a stock option, bro, if you can get all these amenities, bro. You can get the parking voucher, there's nonprofits that do that. There's also like storage units places. Yeah, they're like, Yeah, I live on site. Wait, would you live at your job? What? Yeah, yeah. And like, I It's cool, though. But you know, so yeah. And that's why I never mind talking about it. But I'm always extremely. Like, I get an achy feeling talking about, because there's people that think that this is the best idea ever, because they definitely do not want a, they do not want you to be anywhere but in the workplace. And they won't talk about it like that. But they're happy if they can extract all that labor out of you, versus someone like me, where if I have to be in a work environment, I would love if it had normal lifestyle amenities for when I'm there. I'm not trying to live there. I like my own personal private space. But I don't mind if like, Hey, man, get a workout on your break. Hey, man, we have Nap Room because we all get tired. Hey, man, we have like on site food. And we're not we're not taking so much out of your paycheck for you to eat. I like the humanitarian aid. I do not like that underlying

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that like that.

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Like Mr. Mr. Burns, kind of excellent. Like, I don't like that. So this is something that I thought about after my nonprofit program. Okay, I was thinking I saw a lot of, you know, companies, not companies, actually, nonprofits and organizations, they would hire someone, they would live on site, the pay was minimum, like, bare minimum, and then they would be living there. And they would be basically 24/7. I would see them this person working. Yeah. And I'm just thinking to myself, Wow, you are helping the community, you are getting not paid as well. Yeah, you're living in a situation where you have to get bugged, like, constantly. So it made me kind of like not like want to be a nonprofit owner. No, almost very.

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Finish your thought that reminded me of something. And I wonder if it's technically the same definition of work. It's just like the fact that as a nonprofit, you are you start off not making money until you get money. And because you don't have money at the beginning. And this is most startup people. Yeah. So then they try to find people who work for free, or work for them out. Yeah. And so I didn't like the idea of doing anything related to that. So then I switched it from because it's like, there's, it's because you want to pay your people out the gate. Yeah, exactly. I want to pay them what they're worth, and not like, make them struggle the way I feel like I don't think that there's like, because of the spaces like we're talking about the lack of financial foundation, like financial foundation at the very start. It's it's becomes like a difficult push and pull of like, No, I do not want to exploit the people helping me right, are running with such like, relatively fewer reasons. Right? Because there are the pros. And then there's the con. Yeah, so it's like, yeah, we're helping the community, but like, who are we kind of like taking from Yeah, it's hard to do that. Like, it's like, let's say that we're talking about this hypothetically, where you're heading this up, and like, I would be alongside you on this. It's like the two of us are heading this up. We're taking that personal plunge already. And the trick is like finding people that also have that same passion, where it's like, Hey, we're not exploiting each other, but having to come from from literally ground up is going to be us pushing against exploitative. Like, alright, so Exactly, yeah. So it's like, and we're trying to help each other but, but also the people who find themselves in those situations are so giving and caring, yes, that like, it just makes me feel like you know, I know what that feels like. I feel like they deserve someone. But that's why everyone gets happy when they see videos on tick tock or social media about like people who are, you know, working really hard. Yeah. And then getting overboard like someone randomly giving them some big sum of money. Yeah, making their dreams come true. It's not even I mean, I do love that when people get you get those big break moments that actually do come together. But it's so rare that it really is rare needs, it definitely can happen more on paper, given how much money is in the hands of people who already have too much. It definitely could come down to us. But I also think of it like when the network becomes strong enough and more self sufficient enough and becomes its own like network and like syndicate or ecosystem or however you want to phrase it right, it can work and be effective, like as widen as far reaching as like the Black Panther Party, right? Or like, or like these organizations that are not only involved in like, the struggle for better social programs, but also the struggle for like a better quality of life for everybody. Right? Being that example. Not because like oh, look, we're doing the due to but like, no, it's possible. And the example is like more people can do that empower more people to build their own networks and unite their their common common house. So nonprofits were created because there were shortcomings kind of in the

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government where they weren't taking care of certain people like the homeless population or, or the veteran population, any type of certain population population that needed some assistance, literally, like literally anyone who needs assistance. Why? But now I'm seeing that there's so many start up nonprofits that it's kind of like count. There's too many cooks in the kitchen. Oh, yeah. So I feel like okay, the government's seeing this now. So now they're trying to take control in some way of that. So they actually are providing so many more services. The state wants their slice as always, yeah, the libraries are giving more opportunities schools, which are now businesses technically, that way that also depends, like literally we're winding down on time here, but it also it also depends on state by state because what we just heard mayor of New York City

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like made it he inflated he overinflated the NYPD is already insanely overinflated budget even more. And now as a result of New York, Public Library's aren't open on weekends, you know, I just feel like when I was lose out, libraries lose out like, these public services are losing out because they think they need more cops, which is like the last thing they need. But it's just confusing how the money is spent. Because aren't we like trillions of dollars almost indefinitely? Yeah. Like, where's all this money come from? Anyway? Yeah, we'll get it, we have the money, but we're gonna say the debt, the debt cycle is actually how everything is maintained, which is like, crazy to think about, but it's also because our country doesn't collect on all those debts. It just acts like we're at war with those other countries that we actually raise money owed to us from it's really, it's just the way that you know, like you said, the money's being spent, it's just the way that it is being spent, like confusing, almost, because it's being spent by fascist, it's not being spent by like, everyday people. That's where that's where the numbers. So just to end, our wrap up our conversation kind of about nonprofits that are being created to help the community kind of turn into businesses, when they get bigger, or just like kind of like are counterintuitive. I was gonna say they kind of lose that zest, you kind of lose that character, perhaps. Yeah, they lose the, they lose this, they don't really lose the zest, they're still there. But it's just like more of a, like, greed gets into,

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like something somehow the like, not always know, but like, the well gets a little tainted. Yeah, and you can see it happening. And that's when people start their, like thought processes of, oh, my money is not actually gonna go to where you think it's gonna go. And then they get mad, and they don't. And they don't support those, right? Oh, yeah. Because this one burns me, then all of them are gonna burn me. Yeah, exactly. And then that's, so that's just like, that just shows that when you start something, it doesn't always turn out the way you want it to start to turn out. So it's okay for you to think about things. And not just work for someone, but don't give them your whole life. Yeah, like, like very much be trusting, but be trusting but also realize that because we are all trying to we live in a hyper individualistic society. So even though you and I had this conversation, where we're serious about the community effort, and we you and I are genuine, like articles about that, that doesn't mean that someone else with Similarly, a wholesome intentions at the start, may not kind of get sucked into the quote unquote, machine of things, right? If, if they're, if people aren't keeping themselves in check, right? Like, if if there isn't that constant, like that continuing conversation of like, Hey, man, like, we're just checking in on the vibes, like on a regular basis, like, hey, we were getting this money. Okay, what are we going to do with it? Like, hey, we're getting this? Well, they're putting those influence checks are there the checks and balances? Yeah, everyone's doing their homework they're studying they're doing what they need to do is just like, sometimes there's a lot more to the picture. So just find something you want to study, be passionate about it and then just put yourself out there and the way that you want and if you feel like you're struggling find someone who's super passionate about it and succeeding, yep. Beyond find find, find your people as they say, but you can be as specific as finding your people in whatever subject you're finding yourself.

Unknown Speaker 28:54
Wanting to understand and perhaps struggling because someone definitely can teach it to you.

Unknown Speaker 28:59
In, in language and in perspectives. That makes sense. Right? Exactly. There's always somebody thanks, Wesley, buddy, and congratulations to all your graduates out there. Yeah, I was graduating this semester. Yeah. And previous or future semesters we'll be we'll be we'll be here after after summer break. I'll be here during the break just working so

Unknown Speaker 29:20
I'll be here if anyone wants to hang out or engage in constructive thought and I'll be here too if you guys come in bug Wesley.

Unknown Speaker 29:28
Hell bug me. No other people are showing up well, boss was here for the party. Hey, what's up guys? I've been here the whole time. Yeah, she actually just lives in the drum kit room. We just in the dark. We let her out for the podcast.

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What's up guys? Alright, see you guys later.

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