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Join Rem and Alvia as they navigate the joys and perils of adulthood as a married millennial DINK couple in the Philippines, while also trying to break the stigma against the DINK lifestyle or being childless by choice. We tackle challenges like facing adult responsibilities, managing finances, growing careers, breaking generational traumas, generating social impact, cultivating relationships, and determining who should be washing the dishes.
DINKWAP stands for Dual-Income No Kids with a Podcast!
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The DINKWAP Show
I met him because I'm good at math.
Ahhhh.
How did that happen?
He taught you math?
Yes, because they...
That's the secret.
We're not that good.
They're good at everything except math.
I'm good at math.
At least, niche economy.
The DINKWAP Show He's always the same
Hello and welcome to a special episode of the DINKWAP Show.
And we are your hosts.
I am Rem.
I'm Alvia.
And we have here our guests, who are my friends.
Just your friends? Just you?
No.
Just you, their friend?
Just on my side. Because you're always on my side.
They might think that I don't have friends.
You don't have friends who are close to you in this relationship.
So we have here, introduce yourself.
David.
And Liz.
Hello!
Hello!
We've been wanting to guest them for a while now.
We were planning to guest them in our now defunct podcast, "We Can Wind Down".
But it's now that we're doing it.
Because they're our true friends.
- Our "kuro-kuro". - "Churi-churi".
We're saying this every time we talk. "This should be a podcast."
But we have a record number. This is the time.
This is it. This is the most awkward.
Yes, because there's a camera and a mic.
There's a set up.
So what's our topic, Rem?
This is just a warm-up.
You forgot.
We practiced this earlier, 5 seconds ago.
So our topic is just a warm-up.
They said it's fun.
So I said, in one of our night conversations, So how are your crushes?
Can they be an artist?
But when it comes to an artist, it's like...
Like a loser.
True people are better.
You don't have to name names.
They're just wrong.
They can be an artist.
But what if their crush is Ina Raimundo and it's still possible?
It's okay now.
Like our 90s.
Oh, that's a bad one.
It's hard to say.
It's okay.
That's why we don't have our wives with us.
What's this?
You're a stone.
Girls vs Boys.
It's painful.
So, let's start.
Who has the...
Nobody wants to talk.
Nobody wants to talk.
I'll just say where this topic started.
I don't know.
Algorithm.
It just came out on my newsfeed.
I asked, "What?" "What?" I said, "It's okay. We didn't meet."
You know, he came out.
He came out.
I thought it was just...
I just thought about it.
He came out.
We're already techies now.
Okay.
I said, "He's really a crush." Not just me.
He's a crush on Bayan.
She's just a...
She's not an artist.
She graduated from college.
So we were like...
"Why does she look like an uncle?" Something like that.
But then our topic got deeper.
Because I remember when you had a crush in high school.
The standards were different.
They were cool and stuff.
And now, it's like...
Why did you think that he's cool?
We shouldn't include you in this topic because you know my stories.
You're not sure.
I'm not sure.
But you shouldn't include your crushes.
Like the previous ones.
Like the ones you dated or your ex.
That's not a crush.
It's not.
The crush is broader.
But it's included.
Maybe it became a crush.
Maybe.
If you dated, it became a crush.
You, David.
Why? It seems like you have a question that's in your mind.
I don't have anything to say.
Are you scared?
They can go first.
Girls first.
You, Alicia.
What?
Actually, I don't have a crush on elementary school kids.
For some reason.
But...
In high school...
- I don't think so. - Puppy love?
- No, not really. - Let's talk about anime.
- Late bloomer. - We have a friend, San Gokoy.
- Anime is about ghost fighters. - We used to crush Dennis.
- And he's a girl, right? - No.
- Is he a boy? - He's a girl.
- It's like there's an episode. - The story in Ghost Fighter, They didn't get the script.
The Filipinas who dubbed didn't get the script.
So they don't know what it's about.
So they just invented it.
When you watch the Tagalog and then the Japanese, it's different.
Sometimes I get confused.
I thought, "Why is it different?" That's the story. They didn't get the script.
I see.
Of course, there's a deadline.
Master Jeremiah was a man at first, then he became a woman.
Dennis is a woman, but not a man.
They exchanged.
But Dennis is so pretty when he draws.
That's why.
You'll get confused. Either way, you still crush him.
You're so dramatic.
My inclination is right. He's a man.
So you did crush Dennis?
I think so.
Why?
He's just pretty.
He's so graceful.
Because there's a flower.
Yes.
What about Sailor Moon? Tuxedo Mask?
I don't have a childhood with Sailor Moon. We were in the province.
So we don't have a TV.
To reach Ghost Fighter.
That's more recent.
They're together, right?
No.
I know.
I know Sailor Moon is first.
They're thinking about the answer.
Sailor Moon is first.
Sailor Moon is first.
Why are you nervous?
I don't know.
Who was your crush on F4?
F4? Actually, I don't have a crush.
I didn't watch it before.
What did you watch?
When we were kids, we watched Best Physical rather than TV.
I know there's a crush on Banda.
Wait, I thought this was from high school.
From Banda?
The singer.
Okay.
I don't know.
I don't have many crushes on bands.
Who are my crushes? Aerosmith, Bon Jovi.
My crushes are boy bands.
My crush is pop rock.
We don't really relate to each other.
So your trip was with rockers?
Pop rock.
They look like rockers.
No, effortlessly handsome.
- Like that. - The rugged ones.
- Yes, like no need to be... My crushes before.
What was that?
- But the one you know?
- The one I know...
Well, my friend is a crush and I'm also a crush.
- What's happening?
- We're copy-paste.
- What's happening?
- It's like you're under peer pressure.
- Yes.
- My friend is a crush on a guy.
And I said, "Okay, at least call him." So I called them.
What was the landline before?
I don't know.
Whatever.
So we went to an alley mall during that time.
It was a college, right?
It was a high school.
An alley mall.
Yes, we were in Roosevelt.
Place to be.
Alley mall.
So we called our crush.
And she answered, "You're so happy."
And they were like...
What was it?
High school.
Okay.
I have an office mate who told me that his phone was in the living room.
And you were just playing around.
And your family was watching TV.
And you were just playing around.
And then, when the mom or dad answered, they would go down.
Try again?
Yes.
Until the brother or the one you're calling.
I was just about to What was it called?
I don't know.
It's not soil.
I've never heard of soil.
It's not something that can break a finger.
Oh, I see.
You're good at that.
So, I was just a housewife and I was just a schoolboy.
Really?
That's why you're still a housewife.
I was just in high school.
That was when I entered college.
Your memories are different.
So, I was in high school.
But don't you have a busmate who's my saviour?
They have a cashback.
Because they're mysterious.
I don't own them.
Just tell me.
Because you know those mysterious ones who are just in the service.
Yes, I get that.
But they're all girls.
Yes, all girls and co-ed.
But I'm the only one who's in the same high school.
Then he was introduced to me by the bus service.
And he was quiet?
Yes, he was quiet.
He was like Wazley.
I didn't have that kind of hair. I had a short hair.
Because it was still prohibited in school.
Yes, it was.
2 by 3.
I was like that when I was graduating in my 4th year.
I was like a skinhead.
First day, I saw the principal.
I was like, "You're not even a Mr. Lampang!" "It's your birthday!" "I can see your face!" At least.
But that's it.
Not in high school.
But I also graduated from COVID.
There's some, there's some.
Same thing, it feels like others are also coming along.
You also get to be a copy-paste.
Yes, you also get to be a copy-paste.
You get to be a photo-moker.
- They're still like, Is that Lota?
It's wrong.
The name is weird.
It's wrong.
Lota.
I told you it's wrong.
You're a friend.
Screen name.
Why are you telling my story?
It's your story.
It's mine.
We were also like that in high school.
All the girls agreed that we had a girlfriend.
Right?
It's like that.
It's like having a counseling.
Who did we crush this year?
Yes.
We were like, "Okay, go ahead and crush her." I didn;t know if she really believed it.
That we all had a crush on her.
Maybe.
Do you want to name yourself?
No, I'm still in my news feeds.
Before we go to college, you.
You?
Maybe you want to join the group project?
You can't just cook pancit cantona.
David doesn't have any help.
So, let's give him...
I don't have any help.
Because in high school, we were always fooled.
So, you don't have any help?
Did you go to college?
But there were also crushes. But I got to know him because I'm good at math.
He taught you math?
Yes, because they're good at everything except math.
Math only?
At least.
Niche economy.
They always say, don't follow that.
The crowd.
The crowd.
So, if she has problems with math, I know her.
But almost everyone is a crush.
Why did she become a crush?
She's really good.
How did you teach him?
He taught me because...
He's good at math.
He's the only one who taught you?
He also has a friend who...
But you didn't teach him.
He taught me.
It's not that he's handsome.
His friend is good looking.
His friend also looks good.
But of course, it's because of Crush.
Crush?
How is that? You don't get jealous anymore?
Actually, high school was like that.
We were used to playing games.
And that was the time when we didn't have a date.
I was in high school.
So, it's like...
It's like you can't even think of making a move.
-Ah. -You're so young.
-Date or play? So, play is the priority. -Play.
-But you're in love. -He teaches you math.
-Yes, of course. -How can you be in love?
-His wife is staring. -That's over already.
That's it.
I'm done with it.
That's not the end.
It's not the end.
Check out Facebook later.
But it's really more difficult to do cutting classes.
Are you prioritizing?
Isn's the crush not too much?
Because before, we experienced the "bacod."
Oh, the "bacod."
It's an experience.
I told you, I'm like a son of a bitch.
I don't know about that.
I'm in college now.
And in Antiporo, even if you run away, where will you go?
Macondo?
No.
And you don't have money.
You don't have money.
You won't go anywhere.
And I'll just tell you because we're ready for our classes.
There's a flower shop near the school.
But when you enter the flower shop, there's a computer shop.
Yeah.
If you're outside, you won't know it's a computer shop.
It's like a speakeasy.
Only the people who know know.
So the front doesn't know.
There's no such thing in Tipo.
We only have a store near our school.
It's literally a store but if you know it, you're cool.
That's why. There are secret shops.
We call it a flower shop.
But there are comb shops inside.
Do you know where they are now?
Where is that cashmong?
I don't know.
You don't know?
You? In high school?
What? My dad?
Your dad?
He looks like a father.
You don't really have a father?
No, I don't.
I told David that...
It's a secret.
It's a different topic.
Let's continue.
It's for waking him up.
What are you going to say?
High school is high school.
How do kids like you?
They're mature.
I know high school kids.
We're still Chinese characters.
I'm still fighting with the kids.
Nowadays, it's like plus two.
Just plus two?
No, it's like 14.
Kids these days don't have awkward stages.
We're 16.
They're mature.
Tifa is so mature.
Actually.
What are you going to say?
I told David that he's...
He's just...
Whatever. You started it. You finish it.
You're the one who mentioned it.
I did.
You're like, "I'm not going to say anything."
He's just like that.
A baboon.
He's handsome.
He's handsome, supportive, honest, smart.
He's good at math.
He's good at math.
And he's very supportive, right baby?
Yes.
Okay, let's go.
What about you?
He looks like an uncle.
Wait, what's the look of uncles?
Aren't they handsome?
It depends on the uncle.
What kind of uncle?
I think it's a bit too fresh.
I'll show you later.
Let's see later.
I don't have a bag size.
But I don't know what happened to Lothar.
You have chicks.
I tried to find out.
How are you?
I'm just curious.
I also have a grade 4.
I don't have many schools.
Grade 4?
Grade 4.
I had a crush on someone there.
Oh, she's young.
She has a lot of crushes.
My grade school is for old girls.
But I was only in that school for one year.
Just one year.
You still had a crush on someone there.
Yeah.
But she was the smartest in our batch.
She was also pretty.
And then, we fight.
Can you tell us about it later?
I can't find it anymore.
It's like you don't want to show it to anyone.
It's a joke.
Actually, the story is a bit sad.
It's sad.
But they're not rich or financially okay.
Although, she's very promising as a student.
Because she's smart.
But when I was watching her, I was like, "Where is she going? She's a sales lady." It's sad.
It's sad.
Nothing.
But the role of parents is really different when it comes to...
Because the intelligence and hard work is not enough.
It's a half-bottle one if you have very responsible parents.
And your life status.
You didn't see it in the magazine?
I'm sorry.
You're the first one to fight.
You're the first one to fight.
But it's not just me, it's not just one person.
It's not just one person that I said that the look changed.
There are a few who did it.
You thought we weren't that old, right?
I think the look changed.
To be fair.
Maybe.
It's like we have a final form.
What about Asians? They look like grandmas, right?
Yes.
That's the final form.
Yes.
Koreans, right? The adjuma.
All of them are like that.
So you're here.
Yes.
Your grandmas all look like that, right?
Yes.
There's a final form.
Wait, this is too early to say that.
I get it.
Especially if you're that old.
You'll look at the mirror and think, "Is it me?"
Life is really hard.
I'm still okay.
That's the point.
Sometimes it depends on what you're going through.
That's true.
Sometimes I have friends who are younger than me by 10 years.
But when we're together, they seem older.
We talked about this one day, I was younger and I had high blood.
Yes, yesterday. I was at the wedding.
And next to me was the bride's mother.
I thought she was going to hit me.
She was taking a selfie to show her destiny.
Really?
I told her, "Good thing you didn't leave the singles games."
I pushed her to the single games.
Why weren't you with her?
Because there was an RSVP.
I couldn't go.
But now I can.
I couldn't do it.
There were single ladies in front of me.
They were taking selfies with the...
With the mother?
Not with the mother. With the...
The one who got married.
The one who got married.
I was pushed by the groom's mother.
They said I'm a woman.
My destiny is there.
"Auntie, I have a husband." "Auntie, I have a husband."
"I'm getting married."
"I've been married for years." I said, "Huh? I'm just messing with my friends."
That's a different tone.
Wrong!
Anyway, anyway.
What about college?
College? Oh my!
What are we doing in college?
Just extending the cut.
We just went to Manila.
College.
We met.
We were like--
It's your third school.
It's my third school.
4th or 5th year?
But in college, we only had one crush.
In engineering?
It's a copy-paste.
In engineering!
Yes!
Do you know each other?
No, I don't know.
I don't know.
You have a lot of "baba" in your husband.
But we have a friend who was
Who was the name of the person who was
Of the record.
The husband will be shocked.
Just shout it out.
Just say "Initials." Just hide it in the name "Dennis."
Sorry Dennis, whoever you are.
Dennis.
Okay, okay, okay.
Go ahead.
Didn't you last meet Dennis?
Huh?
Secret.
I played the fifth.
Controversial.
You don't know that?
No, she's from another school.
We met in IIEE.
But you're from another school?
Yes, I'm from another school.
She's also good, right?
She's also fresh.
I'm good at it.
Did you copy and paste?
No, not really.
But you noticed?
Yes, I noticed.
Because in engineering, there aren't that many girls.
Actually, she's the only one.
There's no other choice?
He's one of the good guys.
He doesn't have a lot of comparison.
But he has a good look.
And he's good.
He's really good at ECE.
And he's good at engineering.
He's really good.
That's true.
So, did you also have a crush on him?
Not really a crush.
It's like a copy-paste.
You were just carried away by the hype.
Especially if you have a group.
But the one who really pursued was...
The tennis player.
How about you?
Us? College?
College was...
Because my grade school was all girls, so...
Nothing.
And then in high school, our high school was really small.
We were only 30-40, we were a whole batch.
So it's like, there are only a few of them and you've been with them for a long time.
And usually, when they go to high school, it's like that.
It's like they're off limits.
They already have a pair.
Like when you go to high school in the Philippines, they usually become like that.
It's rare for partners to change.
Sometimes there are, but it's notorious.
Our batch was small and he was able to change it.
Good luck!
That's why I said, "What was it before?" "It was really a chick boy." And now, it's like, "What happened?" "What happened?"
Something like that.
But I don't know what happened in their lives.
It's just based on what I saw on Facebook.
On college, it was a lot.
Because it was like a university.
I know a lot of people but it's the same.
Some people are like, "Huh?" That's another topic.
But it's like, "This is just a joke." And then, it's a politician.
They run like, "Huh?" "I think I'm just a friend of the drinker."
That's the one that's funny.
But sometimes, people freeze their time because of what you remember about them.
But of course, it's different.
Especially in grade school, I think it's because of the lottery.
I don
You're always like that.
For compliance.
Because you have to fill up your slam book.
Yes.
So you'll just be like a crush of a person.
You won't be put in a slam book.
I'm not really interested in things like that.
Do you still need to put flames?
Yes.
Yes.
Huli.
Huli.
She still knows the name of her crush because she put flames.
I just put flames.
Right.
How if you're not put in a slam book?
Yes.
That's why I feel pressured to say that I have a crush even if I don't have one.
Because you don't need to have a crush.
It's a requirement.
And it's not enough if you don't have a crush.
Yes, it's like...
As a people pleaser.
It's like you're just feeling part of it.
Part of life.
Part of school life.
But your exes are more beautiful.
How are they now?
What is it?
What is it?
I already bought it.
I already bought it.
I just don't want to see it.
But you have an idea of what her life is like.
Are they okay?
I think...
I feel like she doesn't want to know what's happening to her.
So she doesn't post it.
But there were a lot of things that happened to him that he went through.
But he's fine.
Okay.
How about you?
How many exes do you have?
Just one.
My ex is the only one.
But I'm already married.
Oh!
Yay!
One more?
Let's stop this.
Okay, bye-bye.
Oh, that's it.
You're ruining the game.
Okay, bye-bye.
These two are so cringy.
We were wrong to invite them.
I told you. That's why we've been putting off for a long time.
We already know this.
But that's true.
Have you dated someone before?
Have you had a crush?
I've had a lot of... I've been seduced a lot.
Actually, I've also been seduced before.
I think he's working with Meralco.
He's working with...
He wants to say something.
Did you miss Meralco?
No, he's not connected to Meralco.
But...
Meralco days.
I think he's working with Cheese.
Cheese.
Senator Cheese.
Oh, okay.
What's his job?
What are you doing?
I forgot.
Of course, her job is not that important.
But she's...
She wants it to be good.
What about your project? The one that you left behind?
Her girlfriend was left behind in the bus.
I was left behind in the bus.
That's a good topic.
Okay, how was it?
But we didn't click.
It's like...
There's no click?
Because I feel like she doesn't want to open up.
-Ahh. -So, it's like...
-She's not ready. -Maybe. I don't know.
But I'm wondering why she's showing up.
It's like... That's what I'm wondering. Why is she showing up?
-We're dating. -There are things like that.
But she doesn't want to open up. It's like...
It's like she's guarded. It's like that.
Maybe it's just that he's been warming up for a long time.
Yes, maybe he's just a little bit old. He's not electric.
Maybe he told you that he's ready. You forgot about it.
Possibly.
You were so excited that day.
You weren't listening.
You were just sitting there.
But I remember, speaking of our crush in high school.
There was an entry in high school.
Entry.
Actually, I have a crush on two of them.
What?
Now I realized that's when I started to like watching women's volleyball.
Because of him.
Because their shorts are short.
Because those two, I watch them play volleyball because they're from varsity.
So I watch them every time.
You know the rules.
And then, it's like...
You know.
It's okay.
And then, it evolved to watch UAAP.
Thank you to those two.
They opened the door for you in the park.
It was the time of Gretchen Ho.
She was also watching that.
Rem is also watching that because there's a crush on Courtside.
The one who wears ROTC uniform.
Who?
Not Courtside.
Bluebubble.
Cheerleader.
In Ateneo.
There's ROTC on Saturday.
And then, the uniform was full of ROT So I got a cutting.
So you got a cutting.
It was college.
I got a cutting for ROTC.
I went to Araneta because there's a cheer dance.
And there's no one watching.
You can buy a patron on the day.
I was late but I could still buy it.
So I was there in front of the car.
You'll have a crush on someone else.
I was with the Taga Uste people.
We were there.
And the camera was right there.
So he was praying that his dad wouldn't watch it.
His dad always watches it.
He's always watching it on TV.
You're so tall.
It's epic.
It's like my son.
But it's good.
It's still good. We searched it.
I know that she's a younger sister of Vinci Montaner.
She's like Edgar.
My name is Vinci.
Chinita.
She's his younger sister.
She's my biggest crush.
The one who has the most crushes.
crushed It's also atinio
There are a lot
There are a lot
So, tag here Actually, now she looks like a doctor She's a doctor Good for her. Because she's like a biopsyc
Do you know?
No, because she's a crush
She prepared this for her
podcast because she really knows
She's really caring
But that's when I felt like I was cutting.
What about your crush on Meralco?
I didn't know.
How about you?
I still live with them.
But I'm not their friend.
But I see it sometimes because there are a lot of common people.
Do you have a "It's good that we didn't become this"?
I look at him as "It's good that we didn't become this". I'm not saying that we didn't continue this.
Maybe he's saying that to me.
You're regretting it.
I'm regretting you too.
Let's change.
- Me? - We both regret it.
- We're just lucky that we didn't become... - Really?
- Me? More on, I think we wouldn't have become this. - Yeah.
- It wouldn't work out. - I don't think so.
It's like, you're looking at how their lives turned out.
And then you're looking at the family. It doesn't work.
I realized that it was okay for us.
Aside from him, David's family is okay.
That's right.
I think he's supportive and his family is different.
Yes.
There.
Come on!
Come on!
That's how it is.
That's how it is.
Close your eyes.
Can you see that?
I don't know.
It's a bit distorted.
It's like, you're a big factor in the harmony of a family.
So I think he's like a godsend.
You're a quota now.
This is really something.
Our title is different.
David and Lisa show.
He's my crush.
He's really my crush.
It's the same for us.
More on that, it's a big thing to share values.
It's so big.
And aside from values, your goals.
If your partner is not driven or ambitious, he will leave you.
Then you will really have a conflict.
Because you are still far from your path and he is okay with it.
You don't need to explain things.
There are things that make your partner insecure.
They might change their life or career.
But let's end this now because we have a lot of cringy moments.
We're too drunk.
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