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We're chatting about the people, places, events, and flavors that make Johnson City, Tennessee a lovely place to live. An interview show hosted by Colin Johnson.
Proud member of the Maypop Media family of podcasts.
0:00:00 - (Colin Johnson): I'm super excited for you guys to get to meet our guest, Ms. Katie Moyer with Homefront Physical Therapy. Welcome to the podcast.
0:00:07 - (K. T. Moyer): Thank you. I'm happy to be here.
0:00:09 - (Colin Johnson): I'm super glad that you made it to the podcast. And I mean, like, it's a small town, right. And I walked in and I was like, hey, I'm calling. You're like, yes, we just met over at some friends Christmas party the other night, and yes, we did. And so I'm glad to send you again and get to talk to you a whole lot more, which is going to be good.
0:00:27 - (K. T. Moyer): Yes.
0:00:28 - (Colin Johnson): So first things first. Johnson City living. What do you love most about living in Johnson City?
0:00:34 - (K. T. Moyer): So I like the things to do.
0:00:36 - (Colin Johnson): Yes.
0:00:37 - (K. T. Moyer): Not many people will say that because they will say, go outside for.
0:00:41 - (Colin Johnson): They say four seasons. They say. Yeah. Low cost of living, taxes, people. Mountains.
0:00:48 - (K. T. Moyer): Yeah.
0:00:49 - (Colin Johnson): Those are the big ones.
0:00:50 - (K. T. Moyer): I like the things that are available. So I came from Cleveland, Ohio.
0:00:55 - (Colin Johnson): Okay.
0:00:55 - (K. T. Moyer): And I was very much a city girl. You know, I mean, just Cleveland's pretty big, right? Yeah.
0:01:01 - (Colin Johnson): A couple million people.
0:01:02 - (K. T. Moyer): Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I was in the suburbs, you know, and so, yeah, I was not an outdoorsy kind of person. And when I moved here, I became one. So that's good. Yeah. I love being outside and just doing things that I would have never done. Like Ohio.
0:01:20 - (Colin Johnson): What can you not do in Ohio that you can do here?
0:01:22 - (K. T. Moyer): Well, just. I never did in Ohio. You can, but the mountains, like hiking and stuff.
0:01:27 - (Colin Johnson): No mountains in Cleveland.
0:01:29 - (K. T. Moyer): No. It's so flat.
0:01:30 - (Colin Johnson): Yeah.
0:01:31 - (K. T. Moyer): Now. And lakes, too. So I've always lived near a body of water like Lake Erie. I moved to Alabama for a little bit, so we were on the Gulf coast, and, you know, that's where I finished my bachelor's. But I'm always near water, and there's so much water, like bodies of water here.
0:01:45 - (Colin Johnson): We do have lots of lakes, and they're all beautiful and all unique and a little different, which is kind of cool.
0:01:50 - (K. T. Moyer): Exactly.
0:01:51 - (Colin Johnson): Okay.
0:01:52 - (K. T. Moyer): So I love it here. We. We've been here since 2008. So I. We. We're staying. We're not going anywhere.
0:01:58 - (Colin Johnson): That's cool. So tell me a little bit about your business. What's the name of your business?
0:02:03 - (K. T. Moyer): Home front Concierge. Physical therapy.
0:02:06 - (Colin Johnson): That's a mouthful.
0:02:06 - (K. T. Moyer): It is.
0:02:07 - (Colin Johnson): Tell me about the name. Why concierge? How do you guys operate?
0:02:11 - (K. T. Moyer): So the name was actually founded. I had an idea for a physical therapy business that was, you know, more. We were going to call it Frontline. That was, you know, on the the front lines of pain, you know, kind of that scenario. But concierge, meaning, like, we go to people, was the premise of the startup, you know, and so I was trying to bridge the two together. Frontline and some concierge going to their homes.
0:02:44 - (K. T. Moyer): So home front kind of stuck. I kind of like it. Yeah, I know. Yeah. And. But we're not just physical therapy, so there might be a rebranding of just home front concierge because we do massage as well.
0:02:57 - (Colin Johnson): That's good. So what's the major portion? So It's. Is it 50 50, or are you guys more PT or.
0:03:05 - (K. T. Moyer): Well, so we've grown to now three massage therapists.
0:03:09 - (Colin Johnson): Oh, wow.
0:03:09 - (K. T. Moyer): And there's two PTs myself, and I have another PT who primarily as concierge. So in the beginning, I was just doing it all in office and then going to people's homes if needed. And then as my schedule grew, the business grew. It was really hard logistically to be everywhere. Yeah. And so, yeah, I've got a team now, so that's fine. We're growing.
0:03:32 - (Colin Johnson): Yeah. Tell our listeners a little bit about physical therapy. I had never been to a physical therapist till my back started hurting about two years ago. And so I started going, and it's been amazing. I'm like, you guys do wonders. Miracle workers.
0:03:49 - (K. T. Moyer): Well, you know, I wouldn't go that far back.
0:03:50 - (Colin Johnson): I mean, I don't know, like, Mitch and I would agree. We. We both. I see him there occasionally, and. Yeah, it's been good.
0:03:57 - (K. T. Moyer): Yeah. Well, so I've been a pt. I, you know, came here for ETSU to go to PT school.
0:04:03 - (Colin Johnson): Okay, so you went here at issue.
0:04:05 - (K. T. Moyer): Oh, yeah.
0:04:05 - (Colin Johnson): Go Bucks.
0:04:06 - (K. T. Moyer): I know. Yes. And so I've worked in this area, in the outpatient world, you know, for now, 13 years. And I was just fed up with healthcare in this area, and I was fed up with the traditional outpatient setting. We call it the mill, which you guys have been to pt, so I'm sure you've experienced, you know, one PT to, like, four patients at a time. And it's just a madhouse. And, you know, I really invested in my education.
0:04:35 - (K. T. Moyer): I kind of went through the equivalency of, like, two residencies. And so one of my specialties is a McKenzie therapist, which means nothing to most people. But the way I treat, I really dive into, like, the mechanics and the root cause of what's going on a hundred percent. But when in a busy mill setting, you can't invest that time, and it's just too hard. And, you know, I was Stressing myself.
0:04:59 - (Colin Johnson): Out, triaging the issue, but it's going to come back later. And yeah.
0:05:03 - (K. T. Moyer): Or I mean even, I mean just the quality of care in the mill is just very poor. There's days where you get maybe 15 minutes with the actual therapist and then you're passed off to either exercise by yourself or you know, a student is taking you through. And I'm talking like an undergrad, not even a PT student. So.
0:05:20 - (Colin Johnson): Gotcha.
0:05:21 - (K. T. Moyer): It's, it was frustrating and you know, then a pandemic hits and things were a lot crazier in healthcare and so I was fed up and said I could do this better myself.
0:05:32 - (Colin Johnson): Yeah.
0:05:33 - (K. T. Moyer): And so I, Homefront was born. The concierge was just to get out of my non compete since I couldn't do a brick and mortar. But it also served a need because there's so many people who like, I can't make it to my appointment. I don't have childcare.
0:05:48 - (Colin Johnson): I. I'm old. Right. I can't.
0:05:51 - (K. T. Moyer): Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so I always knew that like that should be home health issue. Yeah, A portion. But the biggest factor is I went out of network with insurance because I wanted to focus on quality and superior quality and service. But you can't do that in the traditional setting because of insurance.
0:06:06 - (Colin Johnson): Okay. And so does that mean you don't take insurance?
0:06:09 - (K. T. Moyer): I do not.
0:06:10 - (Colin Johnson): Okay, well talk about like, okay, this is just me asking questions because they come up what would be like a typical service fee for our listeners. They're like, okay, like to come have her come to my house or for me to go to your office.
0:06:23 - (K. T. Moyer): What's that look like? The in office fees and the concierge are a little different based on like travel. But the in office fees are 165 for the initial evaluation and then any follow up visit is 125. And the nice part about it is it's all inclusive. It's very reasonable, no added fees. And I, I purposely wanted to make sure. Cause I mean, you know, I know our demographics, I know our socioeconomic and I wanted to make sure that a, I can still provide a living for myself but also like I'm accessible because I think what I do is important for everybody a hundred percent.
0:06:57 - (K. T. Moyer): But. But yeah. And so everything's inclusive because I am a crazy budgeter and so I hate surprise bills at the end and healthcare is notorious for that. To where you think, oh, insurance is covering this.
0:07:10 - (Colin Johnson): Yeah.
0:07:11 - (K. T. Moyer): And then you get a $2,300 bill at the end and you're like, what? So, yeah, so flat rate, billing upfront.
0:07:19 - (Colin Johnson): Cost, it simple for you too. You're just like. And the client knows how much they're paying and.
0:07:23 - (K. T. Moyer): Yeah, yeah, that's cool. I will say like, I mean I can get real nerdy with like insurance and how it works, but if you have a high deductible plan, a lot of times you're paying out of pocket and that deductible is like 6 to 10,000.
0:07:37 - (Colin Johnson): Yeah, that's what Colin and I chose to do. Yeah. Keep our monthly. I mean, because we, we rarely go to the doctor, so.
0:07:43 - (K. T. Moyer): Exactly.
0:07:44 - (Colin Johnson): Yeah, it makes sense.
0:07:45 - (K. T. Moyer): But PT doesn't follow the copay. We're co insurance and so you pretty much have to meet your deductible before they even pay for anything. So extent of physical therapy out of network is actually more likely going to be cheaper.
0:07:58 - (Colin Johnson): Yeah.
0:07:59 - (K. T. Moyer): But then you get the perks of you're one on one. So I'm. It's just me and my patient for the ent entire hour.
0:08:05 - (Colin Johnson): Okay.
0:08:06 - (K. T. Moyer): And so you get more personalized care. I'm more efficient because I can listen and understand what's going on and you're right there.
0:08:13 - (Colin Johnson): So like when the thing goes off or whatever, you're right there to start the next therapy or whatever.
0:08:17 - (K. T. Moyer): Yeah. And then of course my skill set, I do a lot of like hands on work, manual therapy, dry needling and stuff like that. And so you get so much more and it's still affordable, if not cheaper than going through those mills, as I.
0:08:30 - (Colin Johnson): Call them, lovingly call them.
0:08:34 - (K. T. Moyer): Sure.
0:08:35 - (Colin Johnson): Talk to us. My wife Carly had a shoulder thing, neck thing. She had a lot of dry needling done.
0:08:41 - (K. T. Moyer): Yeah.
0:08:41 - (Colin Johnson): And she talked to me about it. But talk to the listeners about dry needling. What is dry needling? It sounds just horrific.
0:08:49 - (K. T. Moyer): Yes, well, so I'm terrified of needles.
0:08:52 - (Colin Johnson): Okay.
0:08:53 - (K. T. Moyer): But I will say it is life changing.
0:08:57 - (Colin Johnson): Is it a lot like on the acupuncture realm?
0:09:00 - (K. T. Moyer): Well, so the only similarity is the needles. We do use acupuncture needles, but we use an anatomical model. And I will say my school of thought that I was trained through was called integrative dry needling. And so the only similarity is that sometimes though, if your shoulder is hurting, I'll dry needle your shoulder anatomically like the muscles that are tight or whatever. But I'll also follow along the pathway of the nerve that innervates that area and then I'll also dry needle the spine again that that nerve root segment that correlates to that area.
0:09:34 - (K. T. Moyer): And so, but sorry, I'm gonna get.
0:09:37 - (Colin Johnson): Really No, I love it. Yeah, it's great. Now I'm listening and I'm like, yeah, this is cool.
0:09:41 - (K. T. Moyer): But so the dry needling. So it uses acupuncture needles and the disruption of the tissue is enough to stimulate. Stimulate your body's natural inflammatory response. But you know, everyone thinks of inflammatory as like the bad, but it's actually a good thing. It's your body's natural repairing system, but it's a tissue disruption to stimulate that process, but not enough that is actually causing tissue damage.
0:10:07 - (Colin Johnson): Gotcha.
0:10:08 - (K. T. Moyer): So it does bring blood flow to the area, but it's the good kind, those healing mediators that, you know, help at a cellular level and it speeds up the healing process. Also it. If you have a trigger point within the muscle, I use the analogy. Imagine like you have a handful of Twizzlers, and one of those Twizzlers is tied in a knot. That's like a trigger point within your muscle.
0:10:28 - (Colin Johnson): Yeah.
0:10:29 - (K. T. Moyer): And that tissue disruption with that needle is again, not enough to damage it, but it releases knot. Yeah, that knot. Yeah. And then when we go along the nerve, it'll also desensitize the nerve to control the pain. Like the pain signal, so to speak.
0:10:44 - (Colin Johnson): Do you do tens on those as well? To like, kind of really.
0:10:48 - (K. T. Moyer): It just depends on like what you feel like that person is absolutely.
0:10:53 - (Colin Johnson): How deep it is or something. We. We go to see a guy who's neuromuscular, massage guy, and he's fantastic. But he think, he says all pain is just blockages in the pathway, neuro pathways or energy pathways. And so it's. If you can get, get that open, get the flow going, the pain typically goes away. I don't know if you'd agree with that.
0:11:13 - (K. T. Moyer): There's a whole lot more to be. Yes.
0:11:16 - (Colin Johnson): That was his like, hey, I'm talking to Colin. He won't understand a whole lot more than.
0:11:21 - (K. T. Moyer): Right, right. Well, I have a ton of analogies for, like, how to describe my nerdy things to, like, everyday people. And I, I do a lot of teaching, so I am a clinical instructor for etsu, so students will like, be learning with me and like learning how to treat like, you know, like practicals. And it's funny because they use such big words because they're all fresh in it. I'm like, you're gonna have to dumb it down, like, for me. So.
0:11:47 - (K. T. Moyer): But I use a ton of analogies like, like the Twizzlers.
0:11:50 - (Colin Johnson): Sure. That's a good one. Yeah. Yeah. I think it's just pretty cool the way the Lord made the body and how we work. And yeah, it's just a super neat. What are some other things you're working on? You got dry needling? You got massage therapy, pt?
0:12:06 - (K. T. Moyer): Yes.
0:12:06 - (Colin Johnson): What are some other things over there that our, our listeners can check out?
0:12:11 - (K. T. Moyer): Well, so I am a MDT McKenzie certified, which I'm actually a back pain and neck pain specialist. And so I kind of branded it as a primary care of pain because I specialize in like getting to the root of the problem, which, you know, actually a recent study, I think it was last year that came out that said they looked at a really big population of people with like joint, shoulder, knee, hip pain and 50% of them were spine related injuries. And so that's kind of like my wheelhouse of what I specialize in and like being able to mechanically assess what's going on and finding the root.
0:12:50 - (K. T. Moyer): So it's kind of fun. And so I'm able to utilize that. My specialties with the dry needling, the soft tissue, we actually do a service where I will dry needle and they'll get right up off my table and go into the massage room. So the dry needling, we can get deep muscles with the needles and then of course a deep tissue as well. And so it's been pretty, pretty fun. Pretty effective too.
0:13:16 - (Colin Johnson): Yeah, I think a lot of people think, oh, my back hurts, I'm gonna have to have surgery. Right? And it might. Yeah, I think there's a lot of unnecessary, probably back surgeries at times.
0:13:26 - (K. T. Moyer): And so listen, I can tell you some horror stories. I actually recently had a patient who, I'm not kidding, four surgeries and come to find out it was four unnecessary surgeries. Like she still kept waking up with the same pain. And I, it turns out it was coming from the neck and just radiating in the back somewhere and radiating down the arms and everything. And I was like, eh, let's try this. And I mean I knew it was, I knew what was going on. And so as she was. And. But she's resolved and she spent, I don't know, seven years in pain for four surgeries and nothing was fixing it. And now she's, she actually painted a room, which I don't know if you've ever had like neck and shoulder pain in like painting, you know, that's like huge. Like she hasn't been able to paint or like, I mean, she hasn't even been able to sit at a desk for four years and she painted her glass.
0:14:22 - (Colin Johnson): Isn't that cool?
0:14:23 - (K. T. Moyer): Yes. Oh, I love it.
0:14:23 - (Colin Johnson): I mean Those are the stories.
0:14:25 - (K. T. Moyer): Well, that's why I do it. It's so rewarding and. But that's why I was so fed up with traditional healthcare because it wasn't even about the patient anymore. It was just pump out these numbers.
0:14:35 - (Colin Johnson): Because we gotta make profit and we gotta.
0:14:37 - (K. T. Moyer): Which I understand, I understand I need to put food on my table too. But that's not what it's about.
0:14:42 - (Colin Johnson): Right. We at our real estate, our real estate team, we keep coming back to if we help enough people get what they want, we'll get what we want.
0:14:50 - (K. T. Moyer): Yeah.
0:14:50 - (Colin Johnson): And we just love helping people get what they want. And then in turn we make a fee for that. Exactly. It works out beautifully.
0:14:58 - (K. T. Moyer): Yeah. Well. And actually, I will say that's part of the highlight of the McKenzie, you know, in my treatment philosophy is that, I mean, my goal is to get you to be able to treat this on your own, you know, so I. It's like a simplified four step process. Abolish the pain, maintain the reduction, recovery of function. Like get back to doing life and all the while educating and preventing. Because back and neck pain is going to come back.
0:15:27 - (Colin Johnson): You know, it can for sure. Yeah. If you don't change something.
0:15:29 - (K. T. Moyer): Yeah, exactly. But so my goal is to teach you how to manage this so when it does flare up, you know what to do. You're not having to. Although I love seeing my patients, you don't have to see me three times a week for the rest of your life. You know what I mean? Or, you know, keep coming back for the same thing over and over again. But I believe if you teach the patient how to manage it themselves, there's still. They're going to come back for something else.
0:15:52 - (Colin Johnson): Yeah. And sometimes it's just recovering from a surgery because you did have an ACL tear.
0:15:56 - (K. T. Moyer): True.
0:15:57 - (Colin Johnson): And you had to have that redone. And so you guys are fantastic about working back, getting that strength back.
0:16:03 - (K. T. Moyer): Yeah.
0:16:03 - (Colin Johnson): You know, where you feel good about trusting your, your body again.
0:16:06 - (K. T. Moyer): And yeah.
0:16:07 - (Colin Johnson): And yeah. I'm just like, yeah. Our friend we go see has just been great. And you're just like, I didn't even know you guys did all of this, so I know.
0:16:16 - (K. T. Moyer): Well, I can't tell you how many times people are like, oh, you treat this like, I mean, migraines.
0:16:21 - (Colin Johnson): Yeah. You know, I tell people to go before any, you know, like, go check this out first, you know, or go get a massage first. Or.
0:16:29 - (K. T. Moyer): Yeah.
0:16:30 - (Colin Johnson): I mean, I think there's a lot of things that people just don't try. They're just like no, we need to go to the doctor and then boom, you get prescribed something for the pain and it's just masking it.
0:16:40 - (K. T. Moyer): That's like we have what's called direct access at Tennessee where you can go to a physical therapist off the street. You know, if. As long as they have the certain requirements, you know, doctorate level education and all that kind of stuff. But nonetheless, like, we're trained as like, you know, primary care level for pain. And so that was my primary. Like, let's start at like educating the public. Like when you're hurting physically.
0:17:08 - (Colin Johnson): Yeah.
0:17:09 - (K. T. Moyer): Go see a pt, you know what I mean? Because otherwise you, you've gone to primary care, they give you steroids, then you go to, you know, that doesn't work four weeks later, go to orthopedic, they X ray this, try some more steroids or whatever, injection and like, I call it the healthcare hamster. Hamster wheel, where you're just spinning, meanwhile, you're still hurting.
0:17:28 - (Colin Johnson): And that's weeks to get in.
0:17:29 - (K. T. Moyer): Yes. Yeah, yeah, but so if you go to a PT first, they can, and that's the thing we can evaluate and I can actually, like, I mean, there's been times where, yes, this is musculoskeletal, like, we can fix this or. Well, that's a, that's a red flag. That's actually, that could be cardiac related. That could be something else. You're gonna want to go back to your doctor. So we can actually evaluate that kind of stuff.
0:17:51 - (K. T. Moyer): Um, and that, the McKenzie model, their evaluation system is really good about being able to pick up that stuff.
0:17:57 - (Colin Johnson): So that's cool.
0:17:58 - (K. T. Moyer): It's kind of nice.
0:17:58 - (Colin Johnson): Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've got a good friend who's a chiropractor too. And I think they're overlooked a little bit as well. I mean, they're just wonderful healers. Um, just. Yeah, it's pretty cool. So I think how do you, yeah, how do you guys work with chiropractic? And then I think there's a lot of Eastern medicine too, that we've, I don't know, like, discarded as earthy or hippie or, you know, like, oh, that's just nonsense. And, But I think it's a lot. I mean, they've been doing it forever and it works. So like.
0:18:30 - (K. T. Moyer): Yeah, that's true.
0:18:31 - (Colin Johnson): So I think there's a whole holistic side of it as well that's very integrated and. Or should be.
0:18:36 - (K. T. Moyer): It should be.
0:18:37 - (Colin Johnson): Yeah.
0:18:37 - (K. T. Moyer): Well, it's a team approach. I mean, you know, like, I, I, I have a lot of, actually several Chiropractors that refer, we refer back and forth to each other, you know, because they compliment. Well, you know, it's, it's all about like maintaining the wellness and the health care in general. So yeah, it's a team approach, you know, and actually dietitian. So there's been so much more recently, you know, that I've been seeing the last like five years that, you know, I think nutrition is a huge impact, like especially with tendon health and muscle and joint health, you know, not just the big ones like oh, preventing osteoporosis, but I mean tendon ruptures, you know, in 20 something year olds who are young and active and healthy. You know, I've been talking to a lot of my dietitian friends and they're like, wow, yeah, there's something.
0:19:27 - (Colin Johnson): What would you think is the root cause of that or on the dietary. So what? Any specific.
0:19:34 - (K. T. Moyer): No, that's why I refer to them.
0:19:37 - (Colin Johnson): And what do they say? Do they know or like is it just oh, it's refined sugar, it's refined flour or. No, it's soda. I don't know.
0:19:46 - (K. T. Moyer): I mean it's person specific. You know, they kind of dive into that like mineral specific. But I think it's the food.
0:19:53 - (Colin Johnson): Yeah. Lack of a lot of good minerals or, or the bad stuff that's being added in.
0:19:58 - (K. T. Moyer): That's my, that's just my like tinfoil.
0:20:01 - (Colin Johnson): No, I'm with you. I think there's a lot of bad stuff out there. I'm, I'm pretty encouraged about our new director of health and so we'll see for sure. I know, I think he's anti all that stuff, so.
0:20:12 - (K. T. Moyer): Right, right. But you know, because I mean just in the physical health that I've seen and I mean, So I started PT school in 2008 and so the what, 15 years. Math is hard. There's just the trends that I've seen change over the years and like, yeah, I, I never used to see these kinds of injuries before that I'm seeing now. And like the super sad thing is, you know, I, I'm a back pain specialist and you know, all the research, all the literature always says that if a child below the age of like 12 has these types of back pain symptoms, immediately refer to the pediatrician that I'm seeing so many kids under the age of 14 with like mechanical back pain problems like a adult would present with.
0:20:58 - (Colin Johnson): Is it just because you're sitting around.
0:21:00 - (K. T. Moyer): All the time that and. Well, I, I think also the, the foods we're eating and Stuff like that, that they're just. They're on an elemental level. Look different, I guess. I don't know. But it's the strangest thing I've. You know, and I feel bad. But we treat them. I treat. I treat the kids like I would an adult, but that's not typical.
0:21:18 - (Colin Johnson): Yeah. And then maybe the dietitian can step in and make sure they're getting all the nutrients they need and.
0:21:23 - (K. T. Moyer): Yeah, but it's a team approach. I mean, you know, and I think you'll get optimal results when you do utilize.
0:21:28 - (Colin Johnson): Right. I think it's great. I think that's a great perspective too, because you, you're not an island. You don't know everything. Right. And so you're like, hey, I'm. I know this guy. He'll help you out with that. And this lady would be fantastic for this. And Yeah, I love the team approach.
0:21:41 - (K. T. Moyer): Oh yeah.
0:21:42 - (Colin Johnson): Yeah.
0:21:42 - (K. T. Moyer): And it's. I. I've since opening my own practice. Like even when I was. Because I was in management, in the. The mill, a corporate world, you know, you would do some marketing. But like their marketing was so different. It was always like doctors, like market to the doctors. But I wanted to reach the community directly because I think that's important. Educate the community first. One hundred and so through that, like, I've been doing a lot of networking in the last four. We've been open for four years that, you know, it's been nice to like meet everybody in the community and know what they do and, you know, create this like, local.
0:22:18 - (Colin Johnson): Yeah. And then in turn you like, oh, I know somebody who needs their amplifier reef built. I'm just looking at an amplifier over here. And then you're like, yeah, I know Larry down at whatever. Yeah. So it's again, we're just people helping people.
0:22:31 - (K. T. Moyer): Exactly.
0:22:32 - (Colin Johnson): Taking care of the community.
0:22:33 - (K. T. Moyer): Right.
0:22:33 - (Colin Johnson): Which is what we love for sure. So you grew up in Cleveland. How did you find your way into PT realm?
0:22:41 - (K. T. Moyer): So it's kind of funny because mo majority of pts are there because they were. Had an injury and like experienced it themselves. Truthfully, my best friend from high school, we got out of high school, she went on to be like a medical assistant. And you know, I was just doing the. I'm in. Well, actually I was a fine arts major, concentration in dance. But I realized that's not going to afford the lifestyle I was prepared to live. So it's like, we need to find a different profession.
0:23:10 - (Colin Johnson): Yeah. Like 0.1% can live off of the income off of that. Right.
0:23:13 - (K. T. Moyer): Yeah. I Was. And I was not that good, but. So she was like, you'd make a great physical therapist. I'm like, I don't even know what that is. Sure. And when I looked into it, it was, you know, exercise, but a lot of science behind it, which I loved. Science. And I was like, sure, why not? And so, on a whim, I. My neighbor was from Gulf Shores, Alabama. She was a pta.
0:23:36 - (Colin Johnson): Okay.
0:23:37 - (K. T. Moyer): And so she was like, oh, you should go. There's a program down there. So I just up and left and moved to Mobile, Alabama.
0:23:44 - (Colin Johnson): Good place to go to school for a couple of years.
0:23:46 - (K. T. Moyer): Oh, I know, I know. It was nice on the Gulf coast, but finished my bachelor's there. And then at that time, it was. It was an interest. Back in my day, it was. Not all programs were doctorate programs, so there was still a lot of masters. It was only about 50. 50.
0:24:01 - (Colin Johnson): Okay.
0:24:02 - (K. T. Moyer): And so I was like, well, if I'm gonna go back, if I'm gonna go to grad school, we're going all the way to my doctorate. Yeah. So. But Ohio didn't have one, so I wanted to stay in the Southeast. And ETSU's program was very highly rated. I mean, 100 pass rate, which was unheard of. South Alabama, where I graduated from, I think. I don't know what theirs was. Maybe 80. And so is that because they care.
0:24:25 - (Colin Johnson): About the students so much and making sure they learn the concepts and that kind of thing?
0:24:28 - (K. T. Moyer): I think so. Maybe a smaller. Smaller class, Class size, setting. But, I mean, their pass rate was one of the high I saw. So I'm like, oh, you know, we'll stay in the Southeast. I like there. But, you know, I don't believe in coincidence anymore. But Eric, my now husband, we were dating at the time. His grandma lived here.
0:24:47 - (Colin Johnson): Oh, that's cool.
0:24:48 - (K. T. Moyer): I had no idea. So I just applied to that school. And he had been coming here for years for, like, a week at a time in the summer to spend with his grandma. And it was funny because he said, you know, he chose etsu. He didn't want to move to Alabama. And I was like, oh, we don't have that choice. But, yes, yes, yes, he did. So it all worked out. Yeah.
0:25:10 - (Colin Johnson): That's cool.
0:25:11 - (K. T. Moyer): I know.
0:25:11 - (Colin Johnson): I love it. I love it. So what do you guys love to do for fun in Johnson City, you and Eric and the kids?
0:25:17 - (K. T. Moyer): Oh, well, he's a firefighter, so he's an adrenaline junkie.
0:25:20 - (Colin Johnson): Oh, wow. Yeah.
0:25:21 - (K. T. Moyer): Yeah. And so he. We have. We love the lake. We. The kids, wakeboard. He Wake wakeboards more than the kids. But, you know, I try.
0:25:31 - (Colin Johnson): Yeah, it's hard.
0:25:33 - (K. T. Moyer): It's hard. I mean, I, I'm fine. I'm good. But that's, you know, he's, you know, flipping around and everything like that. And it's cute. The kids are, you know, doing it now too, so. We love being out on the lake outdoors. We have five acres, so we, you know, messing around out there.
0:25:50 - (Colin Johnson): Chickens, goats, all that fun stuff.
0:25:52 - (K. T. Moyer): We keep trying. It's not, you know, we did the, we did ducks, we did chickens. Tried ducks again. And you know, it's.
0:26:01 - (Colin Johnson): We have lots of people move here and they're kind of like, oh, I want the mini farm and I want five acres and I want to have chickens and goats and raise my own cows and milk the cow and all that stuff. And I'm like, okay, let's go.
0:26:13 - (K. T. Moyer): Sure, you can do.
0:26:15 - (Colin Johnson): I go. But it's probably not going to work out so good, you know, but just enjoy the land and, you know.
0:26:20 - (K. T. Moyer): Yes, I try and garden.
0:26:22 - (Colin Johnson): Yeah. When the chickens start attacking you because they're trying to take their eggs and.
0:26:26 - (K. T. Moyer): Yes. That was not. Not fun.
0:26:28 - (Colin Johnson): Yeah. Yeah.
0:26:30 - (K. T. Moyer): Not fun.
0:26:31 - (Colin Johnson): So what was your first job you ever had?
0:26:34 - (K. T. Moyer): So I worked for Wellmont back in the good old days of.
0:26:39 - (Colin Johnson): Oh yeah.
0:26:40 - (K. T. Moyer): Diversity in healthcare.
0:26:41 - (Colin Johnson): Yeah. Like this was your first, first job ever. Like, or did like when you're in high school, you didn't work at like McDonald's and pretty burgers or.
0:26:48 - (K. T. Moyer): I'm sorry. Yeah, I like the.
0:26:50 - (Colin Johnson): I like. Let's get the origin story here, Katie.
0:26:52 - (K. T. Moyer): Let' Right. Well, I, I'm sure statute of limitations have expired on this, but I was working like way before labor laws would allow same.
0:27:02 - (Colin Johnson): I was mowing yards at like 14.
0:27:04 - (K. T. Moyer): Right. No. So my dad owned a grocery store.
0:27:06 - (Colin Johnson): There we go.
0:27:06 - (K. T. Moyer): So I worked my way up from the packer, you know, packing up the groceries, taking them out to the cars to cashier and so, yeah, I worked there.
0:27:15 - (Colin Johnson): Do some stocking, put the cans up.
0:27:17 - (K. T. Moyer): No, they, they wouldn't let.
0:27:18 - (Colin Johnson): They wouldn't let you do that?
0:27:19 - (K. T. Moyer): No. But I'm one of seven.
0:27:21 - (Colin Johnson): You seem like you kind of. I mean, you keep all the labels pointed out. You seem pretty, you know, detail oriented, I would think.
0:27:28 - (K. T. Moyer): Well, no, not, not back then. I wasn't.
0:27:29 - (Colin Johnson): Okay, gotcha. They're like.
0:27:30 - (K. T. Moyer): I was a learned.
0:27:31 - (Colin Johnson): They're all upside down and backwards. Okay. You know, you need to just go, go bag and carry.
0:27:36 - (K. T. Moyer): No, I was that, that cashier just like throwing things down. I had no concept of like produce bruises so, yeah, they're bait, you know. So I worked like well before. You should. So that's good. I think it was 14. I think I was 14. He would, you know, drag me out on a 6am on a Saturday morning to go work at the grocery store with him. But then, like in high school, I loved working retail.
0:28:01 - (Colin Johnson): Yeah.
0:28:02 - (K. T. Moyer): So I did a bunch of retail jobs. I don't think I would be really good in like a restaurant setting. I'm too forgetful. Walk into a room. Like, why am I here? That was back then.
0:28:12 - (Colin Johnson): Yeah. What are you doing here? Oh, you're here to eat food. Okay, I got it, I got it.
0:28:15 - (K. T. Moyer): I don't think I would have done well in those settings. So I, I didn' I worked retail.
0:28:20 - (Colin Johnson): I think. I think retail is good for people. I think I tell my boys any. You know, we've been. Cameron's been working quite a bit. Christian. We need. I told him he needs to find a retail job where he's interacting with people because I think it's highly beneficial because you gotta talk to people.
0:28:38 - (K. T. Moyer): Oh yeah.
0:28:39 - (Colin Johnson): I had a. I worked a telemarketing job for a while and it was good for me to learn how to overcome fear and talk to people. Yeah, it was, it was really good.
0:28:50 - (K. T. Moyer): Oh yeah.
0:28:50 - (Colin Johnson): Luckily it was call in. They were calling in to order stuff. So it wasn't like, like now you.
0:28:55 - (K. T. Moyer): Weren'T like cold calling.
0:28:56 - (Colin Johnson): No, but I still do it today. I'll call and be like, hey, do you need to buy or sell a house?
0:29:00 - (K. T. Moyer): Yeah. It was a learned skill.
0:29:02 - (Colin Johnson): Yes.
0:29:02 - (K. T. Moyer): I will say in college I kind of got into teaching group fitness, which was so fun.
0:29:09 - (Colin Johnson): Yeah.
0:29:09 - (K. T. Moyer): Which obviously helped transition to pt. Right. What I do now. But yeah, and I was a Zumba instructor far before it was like a. Cool. I think back in the day there was only like what, two here in Johnson City?
0:29:21 - (Colin Johnson): And I think there was a Zumba. Yeah.
0:29:24 - (K. T. Moyer): And so I moved here and.
0:29:26 - (Colin Johnson): Or there was classes in the gym. Like, it may have been a Zumba, whatever. But.
0:29:30 - (K. T. Moyer): Yeah, but it was, it was fun. So.
0:29:33 - (Colin Johnson): Yeah.
0:29:33 - (K. T. Moyer): Taught that a little bit in, you know, while I was here in PT school.
0:29:38 - (Colin Johnson): Yeah. I think. Let's talk a little bit about working out. Cause it makes you feel great.
0:29:42 - (K. T. Moyer): Yes.
0:29:43 - (Colin Johnson): What are some things for our listeners? Like how much should you work out if just to stay like healthy and, you know. But then obviously you can go over. But like on average, like if you're not kind of getting after it a little bit. Right. Every week you'll. You'll start going downhill Right. Our bodies are made to work.
0:30:00 - (K. T. Moyer): Yes. Yeah. In fact, our backs love to move.
0:30:03 - (Colin Johnson): Yeah.
0:30:03 - (K. T. Moyer): Like, that's when you're gonna be the healthiest, the strongest. I mean, it's different for everybody. So it's really hard to say. You know, I think it is different.
0:30:11 - (Colin Johnson): For everybody, but I think everybody should.
0:30:14 - (K. T. Moyer): Absolutely. Everyone should move majority of the days of the week. Yeah, absolutely. Whether it's, you know, light exercise to strength rate. But that's the thing. Like, I really think people need to a increase frequency, but intensity doesn't have to be very high. You know what I mean? So, like, you don't have to be like. When I think of intensity, you think CrossFit.
0:30:35 - (Colin Johnson): Yeah.
0:30:35 - (K. T. Moyer): You know, it doesn't have to be like that seven to six days a week.
0:30:39 - (Colin Johnson): No.
0:30:39 - (K. T. Moyer): But you definitely need movement in general. Like, we're not meant to be sedentary, you know, and so when we are, that's when more problems arise. So. But I will say more about diversifying your workouts because the body adapts how you train it.
0:30:56 - (Colin Johnson): Sure.
0:30:56 - (K. T. Moyer): And so when I. And actually, one of the key features of what I do is, you know, I believe in strengthening from the inside out. And so it's funny because I'll get like these giant bodybuilders who can like bench press 450 or whatever.
0:31:12 - (Colin Johnson): Right. Pick up a car.
0:31:13 - (K. T. Moyer): Exactly.
0:31:13 - (Colin Johnson): But they can't tie their shoes or whatever.
0:31:15 - (K. T. Moyer): Exactly. And then I have them do like, you know, a simple, like, core balance exercise. And they can't do it. They're shaking after like 10 seconds. And so, you know, I really preach that you also need to train the little muscles, the stability muscles, because they actually operate and work differently than the big movers. Yeah, but strength training is so important for a structure and stability, but also moving and functioning like as you get older. So you need a lot. You need a little bit of everything.
0:31:44 - (Colin Johnson): And you can do a lot of it just body weight, like pushups, sit ups, squats, you know, you can do some yoga stretches.
0:31:50 - (K. T. Moyer): Absolutely, yeah. And I would. And stretching, like, you know, people think stretching has to be this involved routine where you have to, like, set aside 30 minutes, stretch, hold all these stretches. But realistically, moving to the limits and like, making sure that you're moving within your full range and just maintaining that is so important because otherwise, if we start to lose it, that available range gets shorter and shorter. And that's why people, I mean, that's why as you age, they start to punch over, migrate down. And there's more to it. Not always, but it's hard to say, like, for sure. That's why. But yeah, I mean, really maximizing your range of motion while strength training, while exercising. And it doesn't have to be like static stretching, like, you know, just the really non.
0:32:34 - (Colin Johnson): Fun stuff.
0:32:35 - (K. T. Moyer): Yeah, right, right. And actually I've seen, you know, I did this little program with the strength training and actually I saw more hamstring flexibility after I did this program of like, there was some like single leg deadlifts, you know, than I did when I was dancing in ballet. Cause, you know, I stopped dancing for a while and then, you know, my flexibility wasn't great. But I re. I did that program and we weren't stretching that I was loading and lengthening and I actually saw more, you know, more gains and flexibility than I did when I was stretching. So it's very interesting. And it. You can achieve a result with different methods.
0:33:16 - (Colin Johnson): Yeah.
0:33:16 - (K. T. Moyer): You know what I mean?
0:33:17 - (Colin Johnson): Yeah.
0:33:17 - (K. T. Moyer): And so I think it's more about diversifying. I highly recommend. Do you strength train? Do you work out? Putting you on the spot now?
0:33:27 - (Colin Johnson): Yes, I have been out of the gym for the last few weeks because I've been on the bl. But yes, I'm sorry. That's okay. But yes, I do like to work out.
0:33:34 - (K. T. Moyer): I recommend, you know, if you're a lifter, you know, power lifter, or even if you're like, more about the machines, take one day and do a stability day. You know, work on, you know, arm stability, like, like a cr.
0:33:49 - (Colin Johnson): Like, like a holding plank kind of.
0:33:51 - (K. T. Moyer): Well, not necessarily holding, but like inchworms, you know, where you're like, walking, load, load the shoulders, body weight, you know.
0:33:57 - (Colin Johnson): We do all kinds of crazy stuff in the classes. When I go, like, we'll do bear crawls across the floor and back.
0:34:01 - (K. T. Moyer): Yep.
0:34:02 - (Colin Johnson): We'll do, you know, crab walks where you're backwards and up. I mean, like, we do all kinds of weird stuff to keep it interesting, so.
0:34:08 - (K. T. Moyer): Oh, that's fun.
0:34:09 - (Colin Johnson): Yeah, it is fun. Sometimes when you're like, this is the worst thing I've ever done. It's not fun at all.
0:34:13 - (K. T. Moyer): Yeah. But you're glad you did it afterward.
0:34:15 - (Colin Johnson): Yes. And I think it's helped a lot. Although I. Yeah, I've been dealing with some plantar fasciitis, which has been brutal, but it's getting better. So I'm excited about that. Yeah. But I think people get complacent or they get in their routine and they're like, I'll work out sometime. I mean, like. Yeah, I mean, I kind of miss It. Because I haven't been. But I'm watching myself get. Feel weaker, get weaker.
0:34:41 - (Colin Johnson): Less motivation, less energy. It's crazy. You wouldn't. It's kind of counteractive. But if I go burn a lot of energy, then I'm gonna have less energy. Right. But no, it's kind of. It vital. You know, it revitalizes you and then you like or can carry it out through the day too. So it's good.
0:34:58 - (K. T. Moyer): Yeah. And honestly, like, you don't. It doesn't have to be a full hour and a half. Like no workout, just go walk.
0:35:04 - (Colin Johnson): Yeah.
0:35:04 - (K. T. Moyer): You know what I mean? Like, although. And listen, where we live is increased intensity just by the incline we have.
0:35:11 - (Colin Johnson): Just because of the hills and down and. Yeah, sometimes going down a hill is hard.
0:35:16 - (K. T. Moyer): True.
0:35:16 - (Colin Johnson): Yeah.
0:35:16 - (K. T. Moyer): Oh, yes.
0:35:17 - (Colin Johnson): Especially if it's up on the mountains with all the slippery rocks and stuff.
0:35:20 - (K. T. Moyer): Oh, yes.
0:35:21 - (Colin Johnson): Yeah. But that's good for you. For business people come in after that and they're like, oh, I'm sore and tired.
0:35:25 - (K. T. Moyer): Yeah, exactly. And I think trail running is, you know, a new thing right now because I'm seeing a lot of that. Okay, not saying it's a trail's fault.
0:35:34 - (Colin Johnson): But, you know, what do you think about. Like, I'm seeing a lot of cold plunge therapy, a lot of cryotherapy, that kind of thing. What are your thoughts on.
0:35:43 - (K. T. Moyer): Yeah, there's. There's benefits for sure.
0:35:47 - (Colin Johnson): But I'm like in my brain heat or he. If it's open and heat warm, then blood flow gets to it. If it's cold and constricted, there's not a lot of blood flow. Blood flow brings healing potentially. It's kind of my thought on that. I was talking to my coach the other day about it a little bit. But you're saying there's benefits. So tell me the great benefits.
0:36:07 - (K. T. Moyer): Yes, there's some benefits. But I will say I. You know, with. Then the interesting with cold is. Yes, it's a vasoconstriction at first, but once you warm up, it's almost a rebound effect.
0:36:20 - (Colin Johnson): So it's like a.
0:36:21 - (K. T. Moyer): Because if you. If you put a hot pack on you or you know, like a whatever heating pad and you take it off, your skin's red.
0:36:27 - (Colin Johnson): Yeah.
0:36:28 - (K. T. Moyer): If you put a cold pack on your skin, then you take it off. Do you notice that's rare too.
0:36:32 - (Colin Johnson): Yeah, because it's like we gotta heat that up.
0:36:35 - (K. T. Moyer): Exactly. And so. But you know, there is some benefits to like now I do not know or want to sit in a cold plunge for more Than like a minute or 20 seconds. Yeah, that's. I don't know. But again, there's, you know, I found.
0:36:53 - (Colin Johnson): Strokes for different folks.
0:36:54 - (K. T. Moyer): Yeah, yeah. And I will say there was. There's this like, breathing.
0:37:00 - (Colin Johnson): The Wim Hof guy. Yeah, he's awesome.
0:37:03 - (K. T. Moyer): So my husband read this book and he was like, all about it. He's like, this is really cool. And then. But actually there was a recent study that was like, not so cool. And it's funny because I, you know, I'm also a little nerdy on like, research. So when I do read a research article, I'm like, I'm picking it apart, like, well, but this should have been different. And you know, so I, you know, that's kind of how I.
0:37:24 - (Colin Johnson): And it's one research article, not hundred of them, you know, so you kind of got to balance that out. And then maybe this person had some sort of anti Wim Hof. I don't know. You know, like, you gotta be. So you gotta have like a broad spectrum. Because I think we in the news are just very quick to jump on one's. Oh, I read this and that's the truth. And. Well, I read something else that's totally contradictory to that, you know, and so, like, I know.
0:37:49 - (K. T. Moyer): Well, it's like you can say like, this study said this because the one sentence said it. But then the sentence right below was like, but it's not really statistically significant, so we can't say that. So, you know, they kind of take things out of context like everything else.
0:38:04 - (Colin Johnson): Well, and I think that, you know, Big Pharma does a lot of that too.
0:38:06 - (K. T. Moyer): Yeah.
0:38:07 - (Colin Johnson): You know when you're saying, hey, this is gonna make your hair grow or whatever. But then there's a. Like on TV when you're listening, and then there's like 18 different side effects that, you know, it may kill you, but at least you have long hair or whatever.
0:38:20 - (K. T. Moyer): Well, and you know, the United. This is such a. Not that we're like taking a weird turn to politics, but the healthcare system in the United States is so different than it is anywhere else. There's so many good things about it. But, you know, like the drug companies, like, not many other places they advertise.
0:38:40 - (Colin Johnson): They don't Patients directly. They don't. Europe. Totally not. They're like, where are all the drug ads on TV about.
0:38:46 - (K. T. Moyer): But. And then. So the interesting thing, in New Zealand or Australia or maybe both, I can't remember. But the healthcare system. Physical therapists are act. They call them physiotherapists are actually more regarded as a primary care specialist. And orthopedic surgeons actually like market to them saying send us business because they're the first line of defense for, you know, musculoskeletal issues.
0:39:14 - (Colin Johnson): Well, it makes sense. Yeah.
0:39:15 - (K. T. Moyer): But here it's like especially, and I, I don't know, I can't speak on other areas, but Johnson City especially, you know, the, just the tradition of medicine is always go to your primary care first or go to the orthopedic surgeon office first, not us, you know, and so it's, it's an interesting dynamic. I'm trying to change that though, Colin.
0:39:38 - (Colin Johnson): I think and that's why we're here. Katie. We're on talking to everybody about it. I think it's a great place to go first. Or like before pt, I started going to, I mean we have a primary guy, the black bag doc who's concierge.
0:39:50 - (K. T. Moyer): Yes, yes.
0:39:51 - (Colin Johnson): Dustin Clark giving you a shout out, bro. But we also went to our friend Richard Ballard who's an unbelievable chiropractor. And so yeah, he's fantastic. And so I'd go, Richard, what's going on? He's like, well, da da, da, da da, you know, and my brain says, you know, like our, our, we have bones obviously, but they're, that's just kind of the internal structure, all the muscles and tendons and nerves, all that's holding that together and holding it up and making it work. And so I think, you know, we look at, yeah, we just look at the body in a different way.
0:40:25 - (Colin Johnson): But that's why I love massage, I love pt. I love holistic kind of ways of doing it. Yoga even can help out a lot.
0:40:33 - (K. T. Moyer): Oh yeah, yeah.
0:40:35 - (Colin Johnson): What does the future look like for Home Front?
0:40:39 - (K. T. Moyer): Well, my vision since day one was to change the face of healthcare. So I, I mean I plan to grow and expand hopefully into other areas, not just physical therapy because you know, my, my mission is all about patient centered care, superior quality, you know, just being able to like do what's right, what's best for the patient. And so, you know, I plan to expand beyond just what my little hands can do.
0:41:09 - (Colin Johnson): I like it. And then teaching other people how to do it well and then maybe franchise model a little bit maybe.
0:41:15 - (K. T. Moyer): Yeah. As long as it doesn't water down the product.
0:41:18 - (Colin Johnson): Yeah. Well, I think if you're very, yeah, you have standards, strict standards on how we operate at our home front offices and oh yeah, this is what you can expect if you went here or you found one in Texas, you know, Like.
0:41:29 - (K. T. Moyer): Yeah, exactly.
0:41:31 - (Colin Johnson): That's you being the. The leader there for sure.
0:41:34 - (K. T. Moyer): Yeah.
0:41:36 - (Colin Johnson): All right, I'm gonna jump into a little speed round. A little bit fun. What's your favorite place to get a cup of coffee? You said you weren't a coffee person.
0:41:45 - (K. T. Moyer): I'm a tea drinker.
0:41:46 - (Colin Johnson): What's your. Where's your favorite tea house or where do you like to get a cup of tea?
0:41:50 - (K. T. Moyer): Oh, still waters. Yeah, yeah.
0:41:53 - (Colin Johnson): And gray. They're. They're.
0:41:54 - (K. T. Moyer): I love them.
0:41:55 - (Colin Johnson): They are so good.
0:41:56 - (K. T. Moyer): And I'm. I'm a strong tea drinker, so I. They steep it a little extra for me, so.
0:42:01 - (Colin Johnson): Oh. Tell me, what type of tea do you like to drink?
0:42:05 - (K. T. Moyer): Earl Grey.
0:42:06 - (Colin Johnson): Yeah.
0:42:06 - (K. T. Moyer): Is my favorite. And. But I'll do Irish breakfast for the caffeine.
0:42:10 - (Colin Johnson): Okay.
0:42:11 - (K. T. Moyer): But now I drink tea like some people drink coffee. Like, high octane, strong, black. Like, I mean, I'm three tea bags for one cup.
0:42:19 - (Colin Johnson): That's pretty strong.
0:42:19 - (K. T. Moyer): That's very strong.
0:42:20 - (Colin Johnson): Yeah. No cream in there? No. London Fog?
0:42:23 - (K. T. Moyer): Nope. Nope. My great grandmother and, you know, my grandma spent a lot of time with them straight off the boat from Ireland, so their tea was always really strong.
0:42:33 - (Colin Johnson): And I grew up on tea. My mother's English, but we put a little cream and sugar in there and made it really lovely.
0:42:38 - (K. T. Moyer): Yeah, it does taste good, but yeah.
0:42:40 - (Colin Johnson): Yeah. Okay. So you and Eric are getting a pizza. Where are you going to go?
0:42:44 - (K. T. Moyer): Sims, usually.
0:42:46 - (Colin Johnson): We love Sims.
0:42:47 - (K. T. Moyer): I know.
0:42:48 - (Colin Johnson): Dollar slice night. Go ask for my buddy, Hard Ev. He's on our real estate team. Super good, dude. Yeah, but the pizza is super. Just great. Dollar Slice night. How can you beat that?
0:42:58 - (K. T. Moyer): I know.
0:42:58 - (Colin Johnson): Yeah. Actually, don't go because I don't want a lot of people there because we have to wait sometimes.
0:43:02 - (K. T. Moyer): I know, right? It's not a lot of seating too.
0:43:05 - (Colin Johnson): You guys are gonna go on a date where you like to go home?
0:43:09 - (K. T. Moyer): Gosh, we don't get to do that often.
0:43:11 - (Colin Johnson): How old are your kids?
0:43:13 - (K. T. Moyer): 11, 10 and six.
0:43:15 - (Colin Johnson): Okay. Yes.
0:43:16 - (K. T. Moyer): And where are we going? Gosh, I love Cafe Lola. Have always loved Lola. Yeah, Gourmet's good.
0:43:24 - (Colin Johnson): Carly, My wife loves Cafe Lola too. It's a good spot. And Gourmet's great. Fantastic. What is your favorite Christmas tradition that you guys do?
0:43:34 - (K. T. Moyer): Oh, Christmas tradition. I just love big family dinners. We don't have any family here, so I'm always like friends. Like, come on, gather up.
0:43:45 - (Colin Johnson): How you guys having dinner over there?
0:43:46 - (K. T. Moyer): I don't know what you. Yes, but we do. We do like a surf and turf, so.
0:43:53 - (Colin Johnson): Nice.
0:43:53 - (K. T. Moyer): We'll do like some kind of like beef steak or whatever. And my mom is from Maryland. Well, she was born in Maryland, but we make Maryland crab cakes. So, like, legit.
0:44:07 - (Colin Johnson): So good. And I bet yours are really good. We had some the other night at Burnfish, and they're good, I think.
0:44:13 - (K. T. Moyer): Yeah.
0:44:14 - (Colin Johnson): The room a lot is just, I would say.
0:44:16 - (K. T. Moyer): But there's a lot of breading in that, you know, these are like more. Yeah.
0:44:20 - (Colin Johnson): More crabby than.
0:44:21 - (K. T. Moyer): Oh, yeah, yeah. Just enough to hold it together. Yeah.
0:44:25 - (Colin Johnson): I love it. What are you working on or studying right now? Anything personally that you're like. I'm trying to get this, you know.
0:44:32 - (K. T. Moyer): So I'm a mackenzie cert. And then the next is like, kind of like, I guess a fellowship equivalent, a MacKenzie diplomat. Um, but, you know, I'm constantly doing, like, continuing education more than I need to, so.
0:44:49 - (Colin Johnson): Same. I still had to bang out some hours for this year, but, yeah, I think that's good.
0:44:54 - (K. T. Moyer): So, yeah, I'm thinking about going on to my diplomat. So it's just a higher level.
0:44:59 - (Colin Johnson): And then you're president after that.
0:45:00 - (K. T. Moyer): Yeah, yeah, exactly.
0:45:02 - (Colin Johnson): Take over the world of McKinsey studies.
0:45:05 - (K. T. Moyer): Yeah.
0:45:05 - (Colin Johnson): And what's something I forgot to ask you that you wish I had? Like, is there anything you're like, man, I wanted to talk about this, and if you're in my shoes or you can switch. Turn the tables and you can ask me questions. Sometimes our guests do that, too.
0:45:18 - (K. T. Moyer): Oh, okay.
0:45:19 - (Colin Johnson): Yeah.
0:45:21 - (K. T. Moyer): All right. What is one thing you wish to change about Junk City?
0:45:26 - (Colin Johnson): Wish to change. Ooh. Currently, where I live, we have to go through a one lane tunnel.
0:45:35 - (K. T. Moyer): Oh, yes.
0:45:36 - (Colin Johnson): So that's gonna change. It is on the books to change, I would say.
0:45:40 - (K. T. Moyer): Does that light have a. Or does that tunnel have a light associated with it?
0:45:43 - (Colin Johnson): It does. It used to. Not like when I grew up, we came because I lived on the other side of the tunnel and drove by where our house is all the time. And we never. We just. You just would look kind of through and nope. And it worked fantastically. But then they said, no, that's not working fantastically for some reason. And we're going to put in a light on both sides. And I think that really kind of messed it up.
0:46:02 - (K. T. Moyer): I. Yeah, especially, I mean, I think after what, 4:00? Don't. Oh, don't go that way.
0:46:07 - (Colin Johnson): Yeah. And then. But you can't go. I mean, there's. It's hard to go any other way. And then you come around the other way and you get stuck. So I'm hoping to change that. And I don't think that's going to happen until 2026/27. I think somewhere in there, I think, you know, we still don't have enough adequate inventory for all the people moving here. I think the Lord is calling people here, here to East Tennessee for a reason. Like, I think because we love each other so much and we're such a. Just a community where we take good care of each other. It's just anytime somebody moves here, they're like, this is unbelievable. Like, I.
0:46:45 - (Colin Johnson): I heard about it, and then people are actually like, they care and they, like, come check on me and they're, like, bringing me food and stuff. It's just, you know, I think. I think it's the way it's supposed to be. And so I don't want that to change. I want that to continue to grow. And so how do we do that? I want to see more people come to know who Jesus is and love people the way he does. And it's just, you know, that's what we're called to do as believers.
0:47:10 - (Colin Johnson): I know. You said you were. And so I think. Yeah, breaking down a lot of the stereotypes there, too. And there's a lot of people that don't believe and think that it's really bad for some reason, but.
0:47:22 - (K. T. Moyer): Yeah.
0:47:23 - (Colin Johnson): Yeah, but you're like, you know what? Somebody, like, for your side of it, you know, and me, too. Like, somebody created us, and I think to consult the creator about your body is a huge thing, too. So, you know, like, not only are we going to work on your knee, but we're going to pray about it, and we're going to. You can pray about it. So that's. That's kind of part of it.
0:47:40 - (K. T. Moyer): It's funny. I just. I gave the speech for the DPT's hooding ceremony, and that's actually what I said to them. I said, hey, by the way, don't forget to ask God. After all, he is a manufacturer.
0:47:53 - (Colin Johnson): He created it all.
0:47:55 - (K. T. Moyer): Yes, he did. Now, I've got one more question for you.
0:47:57 - (Colin Johnson): Yes, ma'am? Hit me.
0:47:58 - (K. T. Moyer): If you could be a character in a movie or a TV show, who.
0:48:01 - (Colin Johnson): Would you be right now? I would say I want to be Buddy the Elf. Smiling is my favorite.
0:48:07 - (K. T. Moyer): Yes.
0:48:08 - (Colin Johnson): I want to go through the candy cane forest and not. But we love Elf. Oh, my gosh. It's such a good movie. And there's a lot of life lessons in there, too. It's just so good. Just be joyful and love people and, you know. Yeah.
0:48:20 - (K. T. Moyer): Love it.
0:48:21 - (Colin Johnson): Yeah. Thank you for asking some good questions.
0:48:23 - (K. T. Moyer): Yes.
0:48:24 - (Colin Johnson): Okay. How can listeners connect with you online? Or maybe you're in pain right now and you're like, I want to go.
0:48:31 - (K. T. Moyer): Give us a call.
0:48:31 - (Colin Johnson): Yeah, I want to go get. Get work done.
0:48:34 - (K. T. Moyer): So we have a website. Homefront, pt.com or run all the socials at Dr. Concierge. PT. So Facebook or Instagram.
0:48:44 - (Colin Johnson): Gotcha.
0:48:45 - (K. T. Moyer): But, yeah, it's super simple. You can book right through the website.
0:48:48 - (Colin Johnson): Okay.
0:48:48 - (K. T. Moyer): And. Or you can call the office, of course.
0:48:51 - (Colin Johnson): But let's say your knee hurts right now. How long do I have to wait to get in there?
0:48:56 - (K. T. Moyer): I've got some openings available.
0:48:59 - (Colin Johnson): Look at that. You can get right in.
0:49:01 - (K. T. Moyer): Yes, you can get right in. But, you know, I mean, I will say we. We tend to. We have. We've got a full caseload. But the good news is I'm flexible with my schedule and Jess schedule as well, so.
0:49:12 - (Colin Johnson): Cool.
0:49:12 - (K. T. Moyer): Yeah.
0:49:13 - (Colin Johnson): All right. What gets you fired up? You're just like, whoa, let's go.
0:49:19 - (K. T. Moyer): Hmm. You know, seeing the fruits of my labor. Like, you know, when a patient. I was telling you about, the girl who painted her room.
0:49:29 - (Colin Johnson): Yeah.
0:49:29 - (K. T. Moyer): Or, you know, the one. I. I was seeing one guy, concierge, and. Not now. Jess took over. But, you know, he. You know, getting out up and down without any help and stuff. Like, you know, just, like, things that.
0:49:44 - (Colin Johnson): Like, people can't walk.
0:49:46 - (K. T. Moyer): That you could walk, and you're now driving. You know what I mean? Like, it's not just, you met expectations. You blew it out of the water. Oh, that just blows. I mean, like, I tear up with my patients when they, like, are telling me about this stuff that fires me up and, oh, my kids and my husband. Oh, my gosh, I love them.
0:50:04 - (Colin Johnson): Yeah. Yeah. Same. Carly and the boys are just awesome.
0:50:07 - (K. T. Moyer): Yes. Well, it was so sweet. I got to chat with her.
0:50:10 - (Colin Johnson): Yeah, she's gold. Yeah. I'm glad she's gonna. She'll be excited that you got to be on the podcast. Well, thank you for coming on. Thank you for having. Sharing all about your life and your business. I'm sure the listeners are enjoying getting to know you, and then hopefully they'll come visit, and you can take great care of them and.
0:50:28 - (K. T. Moyer): Yes. And you don't need to be. You don't have to have PT to get massage. You can just.
0:50:32 - (Colin Johnson): That's right. You can just come get massage and maybe even, you know, be ahead of the pain, you know?
0:50:38 - (K. T. Moyer): Exactly.
0:50:39 - (Colin Johnson): Yeah. How often people probably, you know, they're like, oh, massages. I don't. That's A little funky, whatever. But how often should people get massages? I mean, like, it's, it's therapeutic.
0:50:50 - (K. T. Moyer): It's. Yes, super therapeutic. And you know, I mean, you, you can prevent a lot of things by general self care. So I mean, if you don't want to end up on my table, go to them.
0:51:00 - (Colin Johnson): Right.
0:51:00 - (K. T. Moyer): But it just depends. I mean, if you aren't doing it and you've got some issues, you might want to be a little bit more frequent, like every two weeks for a couple months. And then you can probably go every once a month. Every other month.
0:51:13 - (Colin Johnson): Okay.
0:51:14 - (K. T. Moyer): But it just depends on where you're at.
0:51:16 - (Colin Johnson): Yeah.
0:51:16 - (K. T. Moyer): So.
0:51:17 - (Colin Johnson): And can they log on to your website too and get booked for massage there?
0:51:21 - (K. T. Moyer): Absolutely.
0:51:21 - (Colin Johnson): Everything's like, talk about those fees a little bit just for people.
0:51:25 - (K. T. Moyer): Oh, massage. 60 minute is 95 and 90 minute is 125, I believe. Then we've got a different specialties. So prenatal April, my, one of my massage therapists is a doula. So she also specializes in prenatal and postnatal. And then tmj, she was a dental assistant as well. So she does some TMJ work.
0:51:50 - (Colin Johnson): Isn't that crazy? Like, I think a lot of people go, no, it's just a tooth or something. But no, there's a lot of, oh, yeah. And a lot of, yeah, just a lot of pain from tmj.
0:52:00 - (K. T. Moyer): Yeah. And then Justin is, you know, I joke that we have. There's deep tissue and then there's deep tissue. So, like, he can get pretty deep. So, you know, he's, he's great.
0:52:11 - (Colin Johnson): And I found that's what I enjoy is where somebody's just like moving thumbs. I mean, I've had to like, I'm like, ryan, we're not going to be friends after this. But I know it's, it's helpful, you.
0:52:23 - (K. T. Moyer): Know, so you do. You're friends after. It's okay.
0:52:26 - (Colin Johnson): Yeah. Well, and he's getting blood flow to those pain points that are deep within that tissue. And so.
0:52:30 - (K. T. Moyer): Right.
0:52:31 - (Colin Johnson): Yeah. He's straightening out my Twizzlers. Yeah. So. Well, thank you again.
0:52:36 - (K. T. Moyer): Thank you.
0:52:37 - (Colin Johnson): Merry Christmas.
0:52:38 - (K. T. Moyer): Merry Christmas.
0:52:39 - (Colin Johnson): So next time, I'm Colin Johnson with a Colin and Carter group and Keller Williams. If you want to move here, obviously we would love to help you do that. We've helped thousands of people do it and we'll take great care of you. If you want to build wealth in real estate, you need to look at doing something like that. Katie, we'd love to do that. And you don't have to manage it. We can do it all for you.
0:52:55 - (K. T. Moyer): And so, yeah, need to buy a building.
0:52:57 - (Colin Johnson): There you go. I'd love to help with that. So thank you so much and Merry Christmas. Until next time. I'm Colin and this is Caden.