“Your Faith Has Healed You” | Luke 8:40–48

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Episode 752: 
In this episode, Chris and Jeff delve into a passage from the Bible, specifically Luke 8:40-48, which tells the story of Jesus healing a woman who had been suffering from a bleeding condition for twelve years. This woman, who had been ostracized due to her condition, demonstrates immense faith by believing that merely touching the hem of Jesus' garment would heal her. The hosts discuss the significance of this moment, highlighting the contrast between the powerful synagogue leader Jairus, who seeks Jesus to heal his dying daughter, and the unnamed woman who feels unworthy to approach Jesus directly.

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You're listening to The Bible Guys, a podcast where a couple of friends talk about the Bible in fun, in practical ways. Oh, good morning, good morning. We talk the whole night do good morning, Good morning to you and you and you. Man, that was it right there. I was just caught off guard. Yeah, well, you know, that's what I like to do, Jeff. I like to surprise people everybody. And it's been a while, it's been listen, it's a while. Well, it's it's only Tuesday, I know. Yeah, and I've been doing it lately on Tuesday. Did you catch it? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, Tuesday is my favorite good morning. Day, good morning. Yeah, who knows, Maybe I'll throw another good Morning before the end of the week. Wild So wow, you just Willy Nelly with his his Jeff I eat wild cherry life savers. That's how I roll. Hey, welcome to the Bible Guys. We are Chris and Jeff and we are going to start out our segment today with a dad joke compety. These are great. I haven't seen these. I have not looked at these. Desiree always chooses these for us, Yes, and so we're gonna love them. It's probably because of our delivery. It's all about us. It's all about well, we didn't choose them. That's so funny. Hey, so we're gonna vote who is the better batch? Okay, okay, better batch? Yeah, the better batch. So I have five? Do you have five? I have five? Okay, you want to start? What part of the body always loses? Defeat? Oh? I actually like it. I like that. I like that, And I didn't defeat about it too long because you would have found this. Okay, how about this one? My daughter was doing history homework and asked if I knew about Galileo. I said he was a poor boy from a poor family. Galileo. Go oh, I'm just a poolivode from four family. Okay, there, that's a good one. Yes, yeah, okay. I'm at the airport and there's a woman who's completely passed out on the baggage carousel. Oh, she's slowly coming around. Now. I like that one a lot. Okay, that's a good one. I'm two for two. I'm like Okay. 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So you have to track with me on this one. Okay. A dragon would never explode, but a dino mite. Oh my goodness, you are banging all that cylinders. Yes, I love it, I love it. Yep, all right here we go. Stephen King has a son named Joe. I'm not joking, but he is. Joking. Oh the joke King. I can't believe you. They give it. That's fantastic. I a good one. Okay, I'm not joking, but he is. Okay, all right, you like it? You like it? That was a good one. Yeah, ok for you're at least at like one and a half. Okay, I'm one and a half. You're you're four for four. Okay, here's the last one. I's see, what do you call a security guard working out outside Samsung shops? What? Guardians of the Galaxy? Okay, I love it like, I love it? Ye, Samsung Galaxy. Yes the phone, Yeah, yes, I love it. I think it's great. Guardians of the Galaxy. Galaxy. It's it's great. Except it's a little off. It needed to see what would you call some security guards working outside Samsung shops because it's guardians not guardian. Yeah yeah, yeah, okay, so little tweaking, but it's words matter. Yeah, it's a little Yeah. That's all right. My last one, I feel like I'm five for five. How does an Englishman invite a dinosaur for lunch? I don't know. T Rex. No, Okay, I get it, I get that one. I think she I just. Didn't like it. Do you think so? Do you think so she's like forget one? Said Jeff. Yeah, well you know what, Actually I don't. I don't. I don't doubt that. No, I don't put that past desiree wow conspiracy now, No. No, no, it's actually that's a compliment to her, because no, it's it's not about you, Jeff. It's about it's about knowing that that's what we were going to do, is vote. And she's like, what if I stacked one stack one? She happened to choose you, not on purpose, just because she had to choose somebody. Whatever. You have to tell yourself. All right, well that was wonderful. Okay, I loved it. I'm gonna I'm going to declare myself the winner. I'm going to immediately I share all five of your jokes with my daughter, who loves them, and I am going to share none of mine. None, or I might just do it just to show her how bad mine are. Okay, Yeah, okay, is great. That's a good one. Yeah, okay, so hey we're gonna go Hey, speaking of explosive stories, Wow, Wow. I don't know. I can't. I can't get there, man. Okay, how do you get there? Well, I know it's as good as anything, to be honest with you. Speaking of explosive stories, I was going to say that, but mine was even worse. Mine was even worse. I was going to say something like, you're talking about the lady that's slowly coming around. I was gonna say. I was going to say, my jokes were deaf, and your jokes were healing. And speaking of which, there was a woman who was on her way to death until she met Jesus, and now she's healed. That's so good. Ah. So in Matthew chapter I'm sorry, Luke, Luke, chapter eight, we're going to be reading verses forty through forty eight. Yeah, just eight verses here. Yeah, And it says on the other side of the lake the crowd Jesus is always going to the other side of lake. Wherever he's at, he's heading to the other ties, always on the other side of the lake. The crowds welcomed Jesus because they had been waiting for him. And then a man named Jerius, a leader of the local synagogue, came and fell at Jesus' feet, pleading with him to come home with him. His only daughter, who was about twelve years old, was dying. As Jesus went with him, he was surrounded by the crowds. A woman in the crowd had suffered for twelve years with constant bleeding and she could find no cure. Coming up behind Jesus, she touched the fringe of his robe, and immediately the bleeding stopped. Who touched me, Jesus asked. Everyone denied it. Peter said, Master, this whole crowd's pressing up against you. But Jesus said, someone deliberately touched me, for I felt healing power go out from me. When the woman realized that she could not stay hidden, and she began to tremble and fell to her knees in front of him, and the whole crowd heard her explain and why she had touched him, and that she had been immediately healed daughter. He said to her, your faith has been made you well go in peace, and while he was still speak Oops, that's it. I can't I can't read the next one. Oh that's a cliffhanger, I know. But we got to leave it there because we're going to come back and address it later. Oh, I see, so's it's going to be the rest of the story, hopefully, Okay, hopefully Luke chapter eight. Yeah, what Desiree told us was four through forty eight, so I'm not supposed to be reading forty nine. Okay, okay, okay, Oh, I'll start giving you bad jokes, right, but of them. But we but we learned the first half of a story. This guy named was it Gyros or is it Jerrus? Ah, whatever you want to say, because in the Chosen his name's Gyros Gyrius. Okay, let's say Gyrus. Okay, but Rus, which, by the way, it's it's one of my favorite moments. I'm not even kidding. It's one of my favorite moments in all of the Chosen Gyrus. It's it's so good. But this little girl is sick. Well, it's it's the way that they developed this character. Right, So anyway, let's not talk about him, because apparently we can't. Right, it's all about the woman who touched the robe. Jesus is on his way to go try to heal Gyrus's daughter, correct, she's sick, and. On the way he gets distracted, Yes, because a woman and this is the same woman, by the way, who had a bleeding. This is the woman who had the blood disease. And so she touched him and all of a sudden, he says, I felt healing power go out from me, which which, by the way, You know how we always have these debates. I don't know about always, but we've had debates before about Remember I told you that my professor was talking about the whether Jesus knew that the woman was in Samaria. Remember that. And it was a big debate in my Bible college in the class where Professor Pratt said, oh, Jesus just wanted to cut through Samaria because it was a shorter route, and he was trying to make a statement about politics. But it says I must go through Samaria. And so the other people in the class said, well, no, he knew that this woman was going to be there from his Jesus powers, right, And I'm saying this powers, yeah, I'm saying a tongue in cheek. And then and and what you said, as you said, I believe that Jesus relied on the Holy Spirit in the same way that you and I are capable of relying on the Holy Spirit today. Yeah, yeah, I believe that he was. There's a doctrinal terminology. I'm going to get into that, but there's a doctrinal idea that because of his incarnation, he chose to limit his deity. Not that he wasn't fully God, It's just he wasn't God everywhere. Right, So the omnipresence, the omniscience, the omnipotence, those things he chose to restrict in order to fully function as a human. So then everything he did, the only way he could do what he did was as the model man for every Christian, every christ follower, that he than the power of the Holy Spirit. So you can say, greater things you'll do than I did? Right? Right? Yes, So then how do you explain? So then how do you explain I felt Jesus powers. Like healing powers go from me. Yeah, right, because that's what he says. He says, Uh, I felt the healing power go out for me. Yeah, So so number one, the healing comes from Jesus, right and uh? And so yes, do we have the ability to pray over somebody through the power of the Holy Spirit and then for good to do miracles? And he'll how many people in the in the Bible have do miracle. No, I'm supporting this statement, Peter, I'm saying I'm saying, I'm saying that we do too, es right, So I believe that now you know whether or not a person has a gift of healing. I'm I'm still on the you know, fence about whether that he still he still throws out these gifts. I believe, I believe he does. I think he does too. But uh, you know, I'm a skeptic at nature by nature, right, So, but I believe one hundred percent that a person has the ability today to pray over somebody and for God to use them to heal somebody one hundred percent. But that still doesn't explain Jesus's comment about he felt healing powers go out from him, Because if Jesus was more like us in that moment, one hundred percent man relying on the Holy Spirit, do we feel healing power coming out of us? The answer is no, How do you know? Come on, how do you know? Well, first of all, I've prayed where somebody's been healed. Yeah, I didn't. I didn't feel any healing POWERA economy. Well, maybe you didn't have a lot of excess power yet. But by the way, did I did I my son maybe like Jesus had so much. Probably like my son. Who listens every day Stephen on his way to work, he actually tells me, he goes Chris or Dad, you need to go into hospitals and pray over people more, because uh, I did this recently in the last like five years, where I've gone into a hospital and I've prayed over somebody and laid my hands on them, and then coincidentally they were heading in one direction, and then almost miraculously, the next day, the doctors come in and say, I don't understand why, but you've taken a turn. And I'm not kidding like like and I'm not and I'm not saying it's me and I'm not saying you know that that I have these you know, the gift of healing. I am just saying that is what happened, right, And And in one case, one guy was dying and they had him on hospice and then all of a sudden he's back and he attends Heritage Church by the way, and and and then one guy. Anyway, it doesn't matter. The point is is that I feel like that's happened to me, I feel like I have you know, God has used me in that way, and and I'm like, wow, that's pretty incredible. But but the idea that Jesus was exactly like you and exactly like me, and we can you know, operating exactly like him. Statements like this say, wait a minute, he had an indifferent. No doubt with the amount of time that he would spend with his father, right that he would be deeply in tuned with the spiritual. And I think we wade into the spiritual and back out of the spiritual often, so maybe we're not as in tune with these things as Jesus was. But yeah, don't I don't think that this negates the concept. Yeah, I think I think I'm on the I think I'm on just on the other side of where you are. Whereas like, it feels good to me to say and believe that Jesus was in some ways. What you're saying is Jesus limited himself to be exactly like us. He wasn't exactly like us, but you're saying in terms of like his abilities, right, Like that feels good because that then puts us on the same level as him. And you're saying if he says, well, the only way he can say you will do greater things than I am that then I is because of that. Whereas like I'm just thinking, like, does it though, does he have to be exactly like us in order for him to make that statement, because he could. He could be making that statement by saying, through the power of the Holy Spirit, you can do greater things. Than calling you a heretic. But you walk a really fine line when you minimize his humanity. Sure, right, I'm not minimizing his deity, for sure, I know that. Right, So I'm not minimizing his deity, but we can't minimize his humanity. He was fully God and fully man, and so in that case, then if he was fully man. So here's what I find. I do find this to be true, Chris, And I'm not saying this is true about you. I do find a significant number of Christians who go, well, he did it because he was God. Also tell me that since they're not Jesus, they also can't be people of peace. And they also well, you know, I just have a temper. I'm not Jesus, and they start excusing so many of their behaviors. Yeah, but that sounds just misapplications. Well, it happens a lot though, where people just kind of go, I don't have as important of a mission. I don't have it, whereas I think Jesus came to seek and to save that which was lost, and that is our mission, and it's everybody is important, our part as his. The difference is we're not dying on the cross and resurrecting right. Yes, that that part of it. So we are not because it's not we're not sinless, but all the rest of what Jesus did, I think that we're expected to do that. We're supposed to be like him all the time, not some of the time. And we shouldn't let ourselves off the hook when we when we you know, mess up, or when we when we fall short. We shouldn't let ourselves off the hook because we're not God. And I think that that's why Jesus functioned one hundred percent as a man in the power of the Holy Spirit, rather than leveraging Hisah, his God, you know, God had his deity for it. So my response to that would be that just sounds like a big misapplication that people use as an excuse. Right, what happens all the time yeah, of course it does. Of course it does. But then if you go down that route, then it almost sounds like what we want to do is we want to conform our theological opinion so that we don't have excuses. So it's like, so there's a big difference between a theological statement because I often wonder and so I love it. I'm okay, I'm okay with the mystery of God. Right, So that's the true definition of a postmodern Christian who says, hey, we embrace the mystery of God. So I'm not I certainly don't think that that theory undermines his deity, and I certainly don't think that the other way undermindes his humanity at all. Even what I just said, it doesn't undermine his humanity. Well, I guess what I'm saying is, I don't think anybody knows. That's my statement. I don't think anybody knows how much he limited himself. And I don't think anybody understands like what he knew and didn't know. Because when I when I really truly, because I think about this a lot, and I thought, by. The way, yeah, I've thought about it comes up every time we come across these life. I thought about it a lot because of doctor Pratt, Yeah, honestly, And when he brought that debate up, and I'm there in the front row, and I made myself sit in the front row because he was super boring. But yes, and so I did it on purpose, and so I was forced to really pay attention. And I felt like I was engaged because he was so smart. He was just so dry, but I loved him, and I and I remember this debate and I'm thinking to myself, Wow, doctor Pratt really believes that. And and listening to all of these pastors kids, you know, spout out of everything, and I thought to myself, I wonder how it is. And so every time I read the Gospels, which has been my entire Christian life, I've thought about this, and I've thought about all the evidence, and I'm piecing it together, and I just think that there's evidence that he had more Jesus powers than we do walking around. Sure, So in Hebrews, the Bible says that Jesus was tempted in every way like we are, and yet he sinned not. So I don't know that there's anything more human than temptation, right, So I think that the phrase in every way really highlights the humanity side of what he's about. And then it's not hard logically if you just kind of follow it. Logically, he's not everywhere. He has to tap into the power of the Father. He has to be filled with the spirit right in order to do the things he does, which means he limited himself to even come and live in one body in one time and place. He's a creator from outside of time and space, limit all those things. He chose to limit himself, not some completely into a human body, uh, and then lived as a as a sinless man. And that's why we're without excuse, completely and totally without and Romans tells us where without Hebrews tells us in every way even as we are. And so this is why his sacrifice was one hundred percent sufficient for humanity. It's not because he had his Jesus powers to forgive our sins, but because he was one hundred percent man who lived a sinless life, didn't owe the death, and paid it anyways with his blood, and so that would be it. Now the other side is he was absolutely one hundred percent God. And there's that tension that we lived between the two. Yeah, I think I can still believe that he has one hundred percent of humanity and still believe that he had more. But anyways, he does recognize this. I love the fact that Jesus was on mission. This man comes and says, hey, would you come and hear my daughter? She's about to die. She just goes, yeah, sure, crowds are crazy. Well, we've already addressed why the crowds are crazy. Remember Jesus sent seventy people ahead of him, the seventy disciples, to go into every village he's about ready to go to. The crowds were huge because Jesus built the crowds to be big, right, That's what happened. And you know, incredible intentionality on purpose. Because a big crowd doesn't make a church, but man, you can make a church out of the crowd, right. And so he's getting exposured as many people as possible. But now the crowds are so big, he's having trouble navigating these little narrow streets getting to Cyrus's house. And then this woman touches him. The reality is Peter's right, Jesus, what are you talking about? Everybody's touching you right, right? Did you think that there was ever another time that maybe somebody reached out touched Jesus and got healed. Bible doesn't say it didn't happen. It's just this moment Jesus decided to pause, and this woman was worth his time and worth it. So her having this perpetual bleeding made her perpetually unclean for all these years. And when you are ceremonially unclean, you're technically not allowed to have physical contact with anybody of any kind. Let alone a rabbi. Right, and so the isolation, the shame, the lack of human contact. So her sneaking into a crowd, she shouldn't have. Then in that crowd, technically she made everybody else unclean that she touched. Now, is this the fall in the same category as the gentiles. If a gentile touched you, you'd have to make yourself ritually clean seven days. Yeah, it depends on what this issue of blood was. But there were multiple cleansing processes for being exposed to somebody who has you know, being exposed to blood. Yeah, isn't that crazy? Yeah? Yeah, So it's a health thing. That's why God gave those rules. But you know, it was a very deep part of their religion. So because it's technically she's making others unclean going into this crowd, she shouldn't have been there, right, So the humility probably the shame she was carrying. And then she knew what she was doing, and I think that's why Jesus turned around. She sneaks out. She touches just the hem of his garment because she's tried everything. There's you know, the Bible says she'd gone to all these doctors, she'd done all these other things. Well, another gospel version tells us what she's thinking. Yeah, another gospel says, record, if I can just tell you, if I can just touch the hem of his garment, I'll be healed. And by the way, Jesus doesn't announce that. He doesn't say, hey, even the hem of my garment has Jesus powers, right, right, he doesn't say that, right, But she says she has so much faith and her faith is great. Right. So I've honestly, we've talked about this before, but it's not necessarily the quantity of her faith. But when Jesus said little faith, he's meaning little quantity quality of faith, right, right, right, you have little quality of faith and so her faith is great. And so I love the fact that he pauses this rescue mission for this little girl, because this woman is so important, this woman who probably felt like she didn't even deserve to be there. It's why she snuck up on it. Jyrus was a leader of the synagogue. He's accustomed to power. He's accustomed to influence. He's accustomed to snapping his fingers and people coming and doing what he needed to do. He's accustomed to when other powerful people in town, he greets them and says, hey, powerful man, this is what I need you to do for me right now, right So, now he's got a problem, and you do this. I do this. Sometimes you think I've got a problem, who do I call? Well, we know so many people. We us know somebody to solve our problem for us. This is what he's Okay. My daughter said, Hey, that Jesus guy, is he in town. Let's go get him, right, this is what he deserves to go see Jesus. And Jesus responds and starts head enough to go heal him. This woman would have been exactly the opposite. She's not even allowed in the synagogues. She's not allowed in these crowds. She's ashamed, probably of this, this this physical issue she has. She probably you know, people who perpetually believe that there's going to be a smell all these things, right, everything that would go along with the embarrassment of her situation. And she pushes into the crowd. And while Jesus was giving respect to Gyrous, he decides to pause Gyrous' miracle to turn around and give respect and an acknowledgment of this woman. And I love it. I love Jesus heart in this moment that she's every bit is important as this important guy. That's great and I love it. So that's awesome. That's another great learning right there. All right, well, that's our time, so hopefully we will see you tomorrow. I'll the Bible gas h