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Join Rem and Alvia as they navigate the joys and perils of adulthood as a married millennial DINK couple in the Philippines, while also trying to break the stigma against the DINK lifestyle or being childless by choice. We tackle challenges like facing adult responsibilities, managing finances, growing careers, breaking generational traumas, generating social impact, cultivating relationships, and determining who should be washing the dishes.
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I was just sitting in the corner.
"Hi, what are you doing here?" "Oh really? Can I give you a hug?"
That's so funny.
I really need that.
No, I mean...
Is there a different kind of pain?
There's a mental one.
It's like Tourette's.
That's what they say.
Oh, that kind of thing.
You really need to do it.
You need to be a good boy.
Please.
This is a story that was told to us that someone was being beaten up by a dog and a cat.
Who's your favorite saint?
I said, "Can I use this photo?"
So funny!
I remember before, I said the wrong name.
So her name was Alex.
Nicole is what I called her.
That's so funny!
True.
Then, I repeated it.
I said, "You're Nicole, right?"
"Yes, of course, Char." "I'm probably an extrovert." I said it again.
Hi, Alex. If you're watching this, sorry.
I think I can be Nicole.
Just for today.
I don't know why he didn't correct me.
It's a people pleasure.
He's already been caught.
Maybe he can be caught.
He's shy for you.
He said he's shy.
Maybe.
The DINKWAP Show. Dual income, no kids, with a podcast.
Hello! Welcome to another episode of the DINKWAP Show. We are your hosts, I'm Rem.
Alvia.
And we're still together.
We've been together for three days.
We were sleeping.
We were changing our clothes.
So, we have a question left.
The question is serious.
It's serious.
Because we might miss it.
Comment down below.
I need that skill.
But it's interesting that you said that.
Tell me the question.
What's the next thing you say when you meet someone?
Because I don't want to avoid them anymore.
This is the change.
You're not seeing them anymore.
This is like a new year.
You want to make a small talk.
But it's interesting that you said that you need that skill.
Because it's marketing.
Right? You're a marketing person.
It's a very extroverted industry.
But you need to adapt.
You need to adapt.
But my work is controlled environment.
But she works from home.
She works from home.
Okay.
I can handle that.
We're age-revealed when we started working online.
Because we started working in the office.
I never need to go to the physical office.
So, you can just ignore
So I asked him what's next.
I said it depends on the person's vibe.
It depends on if you want to talk to him or not.
And if I'm genuinely interested in talking to him further.
Because if you just met him once and you don't have a lot of vibe.
So I was like, "Oh, it's me."
Did you just say hi?
If he's high on me, I'll do it.
Okay.
Life lessons.
Life lessons.
If he didn't teach me, we would have been dead.
It's like that.
It's easy for a man.
Yes, it's like that.
It's nice to be a man who's an introvert.
Actually, something happened to me.
I'm not a UP, I have a lot of classmates.
I'm not the clicky friend.
We're like a class.
I want to finish and enroll.
So, there was one time, I thought I knew someone.
I was in the middle of the fight.
I was just trying to So you followed her with your hands?
He was active. "What's your class?" You're good at learning.
But the tip is less.
You're just an AG cash.
Are you following a framework?
Yes.
You're just using email.
You're using a diagram.
Yes, no.
Actually, someone asked me this.
I have an introvert office mate.
And he said that you should socialize more when there's a work event.
He's not a social small talker.
So I do general topics.
I look at where he'll bite.
Like for example...
- Is that a weather? - No, I'm not that general.
So for example...
- He has an interest card. - Flashcard.
- If his eyes light up.
- For example, I'm new in the office.
For some reason, I was left alone with two guys.
I was like...
You were flashcarding.
Did you watch the basketball game yesterday?
How come you didn't watch it?
Of course I should have!
You were so confused.
I just wanted to know.
He was so funny.
I was like, "No, I'm not." You know, flashcards that can be used to throw away a topic.
So I just try it.
But if it's a common friend somewhere, then it's probably related.
Or, sometimes I try it too.
Because I'm not good at remembering names and I'm used to meeting them.
So I try to remember details about them.
So for example, for example, when we were new, I don't remember your name
But I remember you telling jokes in class.
Wow.
So I was really scared.
I'm not that good at jokes. I'm very detailed.
Right?
Because I'm not good with names.
She said something like,
"Oh, sorry. I can't tell you who that is."
She said, "Name drop, sis." But she said something like that.
She said something like that.
This is good with names.
"Who is that? Who is that?"
She said, "The white one." Right? It's hard.
It's hard.
So it needs to be remarkable.
Yes, it needs to be remarkable.
I try to do it but if you don't really like me, if you don't like our ending, then that's it.
It's like, "Bye!"
I'll give you...
Oh, the ending is "bye"?
Yes, you can say, "Hi!" "Come here." Bye!
Bye!
It's okay!
Just exit!
Because...
I need to!
You're doing something, right?
I need a framework.
Yes, it's like, "Okay, I'll go to the grocery store." "Baba, be careful!" You're in the frame.
"Be careful!"
I'll ask you some questions.
What's the situation?
Is it good for a small talk starter?
Oh my gosh!
I'm laughing.
Okay.
The one that's easy to get out.
What's your favorite number in the electric pan?
No.
That's nice.
No, no. It's kind of weird.
It's like 2010.
What's your favorite?
Pochinta or Puto?
I said generally.
I didn't even talk about it.
It's so weird.
Then your delivery, how you're being pushed and worried.
Hi! Why are you here?
What's your favorite?
We've already talked about the location and timing.
Or the tag here, "Can I play over with you?"
Look at Megho!
And then he wants to touch a dirty swimsuit.
How about that?
"Hi! What are you doing here?" "Oh really? Can I play over with you?"
So much love.
I really need that.
Maybe I'm the only one who's like that.
I'm like, "What? You have that kind of pain?" There's a mental play.
The turrets though.
They just say what they want.
You really have to do something.
You have to hit them.
Please.
When he tells us that he heard someone say "puto" and we're also...
Who's your favourite saint?
I said that puto can do it!
That's so funny.
That's so funny.
I have to do something about it.
Because, I'm asking the three people if they can...
All three of them are against.
All three of them are against.
I can't help it.
We need to pray.
She's wearing a megaphone.
She has a phone.
She has a phone.
She has a phone.
You just need to...
Be patient.
What do you do when...
When...
When someone greets you and says hi?
What do you do?
I'll just ask her.
It's like you're separated.
So you need to be sure of your next question.
So for example, if Via said...
I'll review it. It's close.
There are many steps to it.
For example, the studio.
"What's your class?" Just like that. You find the common denominator.
But if you're not sure, don't ask.
Don't engage.
Especially in relationships.
Especially if you're not close.
You're thinking, "Where is this?"
You're already close for a minute.
Just a moment.
It's like a rolling...
Buffering.
And then you're thinking out loud.
"Can you do this?"
"I'm talking out loud." "Who is this?"
Did that happen? That you forgot something and then someone else asked you?
Yes, of course.
How did it happen?
I remember before, I said the wrong name.
So her name is Alex Nicole.
True.
I repeated it. I said Nicole.
She said yes. Maybe she's an introvert.
Hi Alex. If you're watching this.
Maybe I can be Nicole.
Just for today.
I don't know why she didn't correct me.
As a people pleaser.
- Yeah! - He was accepted!
- Maybe he could've been a good person. - He was accepted.
- Maybe he was like, "I'm sorry." - He was shy for you.
He said he was shy.
So maybe that's it.
But I feel like he's really a process.
- Yeah. - You have to do it.
Like that. It's more awkward if I'm not even speaking.
- He was accepted. - And this is also college.
A lot happened to you. I wasn't with you.
We were in a relationship.
I know he's my classmate but I don't know the subject.
I don't know if it was last year or the semester.
And when he asked me, he really looked at me like,
"Hey, how are you? I missed you."
Actually, I don't remember that.
And I was like, "Shit, I forgot."
I was already flashing cards.
You're the guy who's being watched.
But I'm sure I know him.
I'm sure. I just don't remember.
So I was like, "Hey, how are you?" "Oh, I have a classmate."
But I still have classes.
That's nice. If you're in school, you don't have to go to Lubong.
You can say that.
Even if you're in the mall, you can still be a mentor.
When you leave, I have a meeting.
Thank you.
I was taught.
You were taught?
No, not really.
Don't be so OE.
You know those OE-like people who are like, "I'm going to get a kiss." So we need to teach them.
We need to teach them.
I have a meeting.
I have a meeting or I'll go grocery shopping.
I have a gig.
I'm so mad.
My mom is in the...
I'm so mad.
I'm so mad.
I'm so mad.
Don't be too weird.
I also had a time that I can't remember the person.
I know if I know him.
It's just that I can't remember him.
You can't place him.
I thought we were close.
How did you know?
I thought we were close.
We were in Lubungan.
We were high.
I thought we were close.
When I passed him, I thought who he was.
I never met him in my whole life.
But I knew him because he was a girlfriend of one of my friends.
And then, he always posts it.
So I thought...
It's a bit random.
I thought we were going to close.
But I didn't know him.
It was our first time meeting.
And then, we were like, "Hi!"
And then, we got married.
We didn't introduce ourselves.
But you know him.
I know him.
I know him.
Maybe he knows you too.
We never had any interaction other than that interaction.
But the person that I avoided, I avoided her.
Because we're close.
That one time you were in a fight.
You often see her on your feed.
You thought you were close.
Do you know Nia, our friend?
Hi Nia!
This is my shoutout for this episode.
I was able to invite her to the studio.
We're also online friends.
- Oh, you're online friends. - Yes.
We've never met or anything.
- And actually... - Good thing you're with me.
Good thing you're with Mama.
- Good thing you're with me. - She's the one who's being honest with me.
- Wow! - Confirm or deny.
- Comment down below. - Comment down below.
But she asked if she wants to be with me.
Okay, fine. I thought she was an extrovert.
- She's so introvert. - She's so funny.
But we're like that too.
So I feel like sometimes when your online friend...
No, you know, there's a food blogger that we're super fans of.
Yes.
And we saw him at the mall. Rem and I were so starstruck.
So we didn't really approach him.
We were like a group of people on the podium.
We saw him and we passed him.
We were like, "Let's go around." We couldn't.
We looked really abnormal there.
Precious's was really intense.
This is very niche.
So I feel like I'm disturbing their personal time.
If you think about it, we went to Rockwell.
I avoided a lot of people in Power Plant.
Where were the people you avoided?
I chased Precious to every place.
We already dated.
At first, I didn't know.
You registered.
But Louie knew.
We were in a relationship.
We were in a relationship.
We stand as supportive couple.
He was so handsome.
I said, "He's really handsome." Precious is so handsome, right?
He's so handsome.
I said, "If we meet again, I'll just take a picture of you." I promised myself.
Good job, Sev.
Louis was so dedicated. He wanted to see us again with Precious.
- He's so supportive. - I was shopping for clothes.
He shouted in the fitting room, "Get out! She's here!"
- In the fitting room? - Yes.
Louis shouted, "Get out! She's here! They're coming!" I got out.
I looked for her. She said, "She's upstairs." I said, "You're an idiot. You said she's here." - It was on the top. - Every episode.
Sorry, sorry.
Sorry, that's where she looked up.
Okay.
Then, we were in a car.
In fairness.
Then, Presh's boyfriend...
Oh, I don't know who his boyfriend is. Sorry.
Issue.
Issue.
Yes, his partner.
My grandmother.
You corrected it.
I corrected it.
His partner said, "Hello." I said "Hello" to his partner.
Then, his partner said, "Hello?"
It's weird.
Because I was still being greeted.
Yes, I was still being greeted.
I asked, "Can you take a picture of her?"
I asked Precious and she's already taking a picture of me.
Wow, extrovert.
I didn;t hesitate.
So when you need to do something, you're able to do it.
When Precious is there.
There's a condition.
For us, we didn't hesitate.
We didn't take a picture, we don't do anything.
So for us, next time we should do something.
The extra courtesies are gone.
- We're really close, right? - Yeah.
- Why does he look so busy? - I told you.
- He has a friend. - Okay.
He's not an artist or anything. He doesn't know us.
- And he's young. - Yeah.
He's younger than you.
I just follow his recipes.
We're really fans.
- But very... - Yeah.
We all passed the test.
I said, "Next time, we should really take pictures of each other."
I told her, "Why did I marry an extrovert?"
I let her down.
She didn't react.
What happened?
I follow her on IG.
She posted that she climbed in the gym.
I stopped because I was doing pole cuts.
I said, "What? I'm going to climb again?" I saw her climbing shoes. They're the same.
I was liking it.
But I didn't ask for it.
So I go, "We have the same climbing shoes." I just did it.
And then, he replied.
He has close to 1 million followers on IG.
And then, I was like, "Do you want to climb?" "When are you going to climb?" And then, he replied.
So when I went there, I took his book.
His cookbook.
I'll have an autograph on it.
So it was awesome.
So when I went there, I didn't worry.
I really liked Rhyme the whole time.
I was like, "Oh my gosh." Because you know what?
When I got there, she was like, "Do you need passes?"
"Let me know."
"I'm wearing this." I was like, "I know your look!" "I'm the one wearing this color." I was like, "I know!" I asked her, "Why did you reply?" She was like, "What the hell?" "There's a stranger on the internet." She said, "You don't feel like you're vibing."
Even online, right?
I was shocked.
She's Then there's also a person who asked me if I knew her from Instagram.
But it was just casual.
I'm an idol.
Then I signed the recipe.
We were just in a locker room.
I said, "I figured your friends don't know." She said, "They don't know." Because they're climbing friends. They just saw each other there.
Then there's a girl there. It's embarrassing, right?
There's a girl there who said, "I know her. She has almost 1 million followers on Instagram."
"Don't say that." So it's cute.
You can really feel the vibe.
And if he doesn't reply to me, I'm like, "Oh, it's just me." And he replied.
I also make mistakes sometimes.
I make mistakes with the names.
But I just move on.
Maybe he doesn't remember because we're not close.
I think I'm overthinking it.
I'm not overthinking it.
I'm thinking, maybe you don't know each other.
I feel like you might not know my name.
That's the thing.
Over thinker.
I'm a people pleaser.
I used to be.
Comes with age.
You get tired too.
What about your friends throughout your journey in life?
Journey!
Are you still friends? Do you keep in contact?
It's easy for me to answer that.
Because they're just a few.
They're just a few.
They're like my unfriend.
It's embarrassing.
But they're all still my friends.
But the hard part is the way I combine them.
For example, it's my birthday.
It's just one person.
But when we meet, it's not the same vibe.
That's the weird part, right?
It's really weird.
You think that your friends will still jive with you.
But they're different. They don't have the same vibe.
For example, they've been your friends since elementary school.
Of course, I'm different from elementary school.
And you were different in high school.
And you were different in college.
So when you're with them, it's like you're a different version of yourself.
You said earlier that there's a time capsule.
So when you're with them, you're a different person.
If they're together.
How is that?
They're traveling together.
That's why it's hard for me to be with them.
But what's okay with me is that they're still my friends.
In fairness.
You too.
No.
Sorry to all of you.
Bye.
Bye.
Take this part.
That's our episode.
Sorry guys, I'm a Capricorn.
Going back to what I said, we all have different stages in life.
So, mostly what happens to me is that they have a family.
It's not that we don't have one. It's just that I know that they have their own priorities.
Like for example, my best friend from college, when she was a kid and family,
I already accept that that's his life.
Not like this, where he suddenly goes.
- Oh, yeah. - Yes.
So I think that's part of life too.
You just keep what you have now, you'll cherish it.
Because it's not everyday.
Because one time, you'll migrate, get married, have kids.
So that's how it is. As a friend, you need to let them go and just support them.
- Just look for another friend. - Yes.
- Yes, why? - But they're still friends.
- There's a lot of them. - They're still friends.
- It's just that I know that they can't commit anymore.
So for example, you know this, guys.
When you have a girlfriend and she's already with a few other girls.
So you know, in your third year, you're not invited anymore.
True.
So accept that you're in a different stage in life.
That's true.
And you, Rem also has a family.
So find younger friends.
That's your advice.
Yes, that's my advice.
You said it.
I'm more of a crazy person.
I've been to many schools.
Each time I
- You can use it as a thesis. - Yes.
- That's a good one. - Preserving friendship through memes.
- I'm still here. - Just hit check if you're still laughing for them.
- Then it will evolve into a Merry Christmas update. - They're now offending each other.
- Wait, are we still here, gents? - So, I really like close friends.
My friend is in my last university before I graduate.
They are really like that.
I go to their place to see them.
Every now and then, memes.
Memes.
It's like you're getting wet.
What do they say? Pebbling?
Like penguins, you're presenting pebbles.
So in high school, I became friends with a lot of people.
It's different in every high school, college.
- At least I'm just a friend. - So you're just a friend.
You're the one who moves around.
- You too, right? You move around. - Because Cheska always moves around.
Yes, but wherever I go, I don't really get to meet up with them.
I don't go to a friend group where there are 5 or 6 of them.
- We have a lot of friends. - We're a club.
- We're a lot of friends. - I can't do that.
Our group chat was for three people.
The memes that said, "Why are you doing a group chat?"
Because there were only three of us.
Just three people.
For me, it's easy to make friends but I'm not good at keeping friends.
That's right. It's hard.
Especially for me, I only have one grade school, one high school, and one college.
So for the grade school, I was still a kid then.
And there weren't many...
So it's okay. You just have to be friends on Facebook.
And when you're around, it's like that.
And high school, I don't know if...
A lot of things happened to us in high school.
So it reached a point where, like you said, when you see each other, the jokes are the same topic.
So no offense to my high school friends,
I got a bit annoyed.
Shout out.
I got annoyed in the conversation.
Why are we always in high school?
And when you're busy, you choose your schedule.
It's okay if there's something important.
You can go to the wedding, have kids,
go to the binyak... Age reveal.
I still go there but we don't hang out.
They're not on the same stage anymore.
For me, the closest thing is college.
College.
- Because maybe... - Weirdly masters.
Maybe because they're already in the niche.
Like you know you've prepared a path in life.
So when you work, that's still your topic.
Because you're all in that industry.
Actually, not for me.
I don't have a course.
We have different courses.
Right?
We have different courses. We work in an org.
At least we know that they're all finished.
They might be done with their lives.
- But that's just how it is. - We have batchmates in high school and high school.
We don't know where they went.
So I think what I keep is the friends that grew with me.
We weren't stuck until now.
We thought about our college days.
- It's the same issues. - Same issues.
- Same. - Same.
You know, he's still having issues with his boyfriend.
I think that's my master's because we both did the same thing.
- Yeah, but there's more on networking too. - Yeah.
But everyone is asking how we got the master's.
- You have a master's? - Yes, we have two.
- Oh my God! - The GC is active.
- Wow! - The GC is active.
We went out of town, we had a Christmas party.
- That's what I don't know how you did. - Solid, right?
I'm not like that too but I always say that I'm not the one who reaches out.
I'm just lazy to back read.
I'll just read the middle of the conversation.
I don't know what I'm talking about.
I don't know how to back read.
- Oh, I see. - So you just need to back read.
But some people back track their conversation.
Sometimes, I'm in the middle of a conversation.
Then I'll just read.
But I'll back read even if it's just for a few days.
But in fairness, for me, even if my friends don't know about my work, they let me talk about it.
They talk about their work even if I don't get it.
At least, they update me in life.
We don't talk about our batchmates because I don't know their batchmates.
Others are true, right?
I don't think they'll remember.
You're wrong if they can still eat glue.
But I don't think they'll remember.
I know that our paths are different in life and they won't cross.
Like ever.
Like wherever they go, I won't go there.
But what if you bump into them at the mall?
They won't remember.
You won't remember them.
That's the hardest part.
When you bump into them at the mall, they'll recognize you.
You won't recognize them.
I get surprised sometimes.
How did you remember me?
You're good at remembering.
I really like those memories.
I also remember one time, we were in the same college but we were still in the same class.
And then he remembered me.
There are people like that.
There are people like that too.
Kinder to college.
What was my look like then?
I was in high school but I was there for his birthday party.
We had a picture together.
Apparently, our dads were in the same group.
I was there for the picture but I don't remember.
As in, he brought me to school.
He was younger than me.
So I was like, "What is that?"
You're looking at the album.
I feel like I'm being poked.
You're being poked.
She smelled you.
She said, "This is funny." She's laughing.
Her hands are getting higher.
She's used to going on adventures.
I don't know, maybe I was six years old.
How did you remember that?
It's her birthday.
So she feels that day.
Was it her birthday? I don't remember.
I remember the picture.
Because I saw the picture.
When I looked at it.
If you didn't enjoy it, she enjoyed her birthday.
So she remembers everything.
But we also have a friend.
She's always on the anniversary of everything.
Amazing.
The couple.
She's always on it.
It was so intentional.
She's really good.
- She has a calendar? - I don't know.
I'll ask her.
But she was at work at the same time.
I can't remember anything.
I had an ex-boyfriend, we fought because I don't remember our anniversary.
We fought.
She asked me, "What day is tomorrow?" I was like, "Wednesday." She was like, "You don't remember?"
"No, it's just a joke."
- I didn't know. - So sudden.
- So sudden. - She suddenly had a one-day.
He gave me a chocolate. I was like, "Huh? Why?" He said that it was our first day at work.
I was like, "Huh?"
We went to Starbucks.
"I'll give you a free one." It was my first day at work.
I was like, "Why am I getting older?" Just kidding.
He's so sweet.
He's so sweet but he's so sweet.
But he's so sweet.
But there are friends who are like that.
They'll be like, "Unfortunately, I'm not like that."
I'm not like that either.
I think as friends, there are different love languages.
It's really different.
Like for example, words.
Birthdays are hard.
It needs to be in the calendar.
Me too. I calendar all my close friends.
So if I don't remember, I'm a bit nervous.
Nervous?
You can't handle the pressure.
I don't know if I should have hit you. I didn't put it in.
Maybe you forgot to save it in the calendar.
But there.
Anyway.
And you're all a bit tired and you still have a long way to go tomorrow.
Thank you for gracing our--
Thank you for this impromptu guesting.
Thank you.
Thank you so much.
Thank you for introducing this to us.
It's like our next hobby.
This is our next hobby.
Thank you so much.
We'll give you the link of the gadgets.
Yes, the affiliate links.
Affiliate links.
What do you mean affiliate links?
We'll teach you later.
Comment down below if you want.
So how was it before we end?
How was your experience?
First time doing a podcast.
I'm happy because it's like...
Nothing.
It's like legit.
No, I'm like...
We're singing together in real life.
Why not? I'll just record it.
I have a lot of thoughts.
You also have a lot of "tots".
Some of us are also sad.
Those who commented.
Those who commented down below. All of our comments were answered.
Yes, they were answered.
Mia, comment down below.
Thank you so much, guys.
Thank you, thank you.
Have fun tomorrow.
Thank you.
And thank you for watching another episode of the DINKWAP Show.
And see you on the next one.
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