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Yeah, I suppose the reason why we've come to the national health executive to speak to you is partly to overcome this issue of misinformation, and also to draw, • • um. • • • Um, NHS executives attention to the fact we've got this big evidence base that's been generated over three years. So, one, we'd like people to be aware that, • • • • • to be alert to misinformation, and two, we'd like you to kind of delve into the evidence base, contact us, ask us questions, • • um, feedback, if there's anything you don't agree with. We would love that interaction. It's often quite hard for non health researchers to interact with people in health. Um, and we know that from the difficulties sometimes getting people to, um, take part in our study, we have got sort of a few main points about kind of things to think about when you're reading or thinking about drone deliveries and the reporting around it, and some of those questions that you need to ask, things like, • is there really a need for speed? Um, so we recognize that drones can deliver, um, quicker than some modes. How much difference that faster delivery will make to any services needs to be considered. And the second point, which is my favorite, is really about consolidation. Consolidation is likely to be cheaper and greener than using a drone. Um, and there's an awful lot of transport being used by the NHS, which is on the network right now. I think we need to understand • • what that transport is, what it's doing, and have perhaps a better general understanding so we can all tap into it potentially then, is the drone actually up to the know? Andy's outlined some of the weather limitations, but there's also capacity, there's also things about where they can land. Um, so you need to think about those things. I've mentioned time savings, but if you look at the whole practice. So if you look at, um, • • • • not just the final journey leg, there are often time savings that can be found elsewhere within a system, not just in terms of transport. • Um, and finally, think about that cost. Um, you need to take a holistic assessment of the whole service cost and think about whether the cost is worth it. And it might well be, but it needs careful consideration. So those are kind of my main points, really. Do delve into our evidence, do contact us, um, and do read the article.
Speaker A
Yeah, I kind of second all of, um, what Angela says there. • Um, but, yeah, I'd just kind of like to add that, um, not everything coming out the drone industry is that honest. Um, and just be very aware of, uh, that, um, • • • • there are some fantastic innovations out there and no doubt some of them have a place in certain situations. You've got to really dig into it, um, to make sure you're really understanding where that situation is.
Yeah, and we've had key takeaways there. Uh, and this, um, isn't a question directed to anybody in particular. But now we're coming towards the end of the podcast. What would you advise based on the back of this, that, uh, health leaders do with this? What should they do? What action should they take? What next?
Essentially, I think what I'd really like.
To see is honest reporting from trials, so that we know exactly what they found out. Now, I do believe that trials are really important to understand how technology works and where it has a role in society. But at the moment, I don't think we're seeing quite enough in terms of transparency and what's been found out by doing these trials. I think that's what we'd like to know, that it's often public money that's funded them. So that would be my takeaway.
Yeah. And I think, um, just to build on that, if you have better reporting, it's a lot easier to actually learn from what was actually understood rather than what people think was understood. So if I say I moved ten tons of cargo and it made the NHS, um, 50,000 pounds saving or whatever, • • um, and that's completely false, that's not going to help anyone because everyone will think, right, yeah, let's go straight for that cargo when it might be that there's another cargo that is superbly • • suited, uh, • • for whatever use case it is. so, yeah, I think honest reporting is really key.
So transparency is the word of the day?
Transparency, definitely.
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