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Seth Holehouse is a TV personality, YouTuber, podcaster, and patriot who became a household name in 2020 after his video exposing election fraud was tweeted, shared, uploaded, and pinned by President Donald Trump — reaching hundreds of millions worldwide.
Titled The Plot to Steal America, the video was created with a mission to warn Americans about the communist threat to our nation—a mission that’s been at the forefront of Seth’s life for nearly two decades.
After 10 years behind the scenes at The Epoch Times, launching his own show was the logical next step. Since its debut, Seth’s show “Man in America” has garnered 1M+ viewers on a monthly basis as his commitment to bring hope to patriots and to fight communism and socialism grows daily. His guests have included Peter Navarro, Kash Patel, Senator Wendy Rogers, General Michael Flynn, and General Robert Spalding.
He is also a regular speaker at the “ReAwaken America Tour” alongside Eric Trump, Mike Lindell, Gen. Flynn.
Welcome to Man in America. I'm your host, Seth Holehouse, and boy, do we have a good show for you today. So as you probably know, well as I know, the past two years have shocked our nation with a vicious attack on our fundamental rights. But lurking beneath is a much more sinister agenda that's blurring the lines of gender, removing God from society, and leading humanity into a frightening transhumanist future. So what is the ultimate goal of these campaigns?
Speaker 1:And how can we take back control of our own future? Today, I'll be getting into a deep talk with Karen Kingston, former Big Pharma employee, biotech analysis and whistleblower. But before we jump in, a few quick messages for you. First off, as you're probably aware, Truth Social just launched. I'm waiting.
Speaker 1:I have my handle on there. So if you want to go follow me on Truth Social, it's maninamerica. I'm not on there yet, but I will be hopefully within the next few days. I'll be very active on there and telegram. Telegram's another place.
Speaker 1:Also search for me as man in America. I'm very active there. I plan on making truth social and telegram the two main places where I'm posting. So that's where you should find me. And lastly, with inflation, and as we've seen a crazy instability in the markets and geopolitics, folks are looking for ways to protect their wealth.
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Speaker 1:You can also email me if you have a question. Look, I used to work in this industry. You can email gold@maninamerica.com, and I'll personally respond to you. Look, I'm not an expert on this, but I'll do my best. So without further ado, I want to introduce to you, Mrs.
Speaker 1:Karen Kingston, has been an incredible voice against what's happening right now as a whistleblower, and he says so that's outspoken with a conscience. So let's go ahead and welcome Karen. Karen, thank you so very much for joining us today. And thank you just for everything that you've been doing. You've been on the front lines really trying to bring people the true information.
Speaker 1:And I just I really appreciate it. Thank you.
Speaker 2:Oh, thank you, Seth. I appreciate you having me on the platform and for all that you're doing too to to spread the truth and, for lack of a better word, wake wake some some sleepers up. Right? So
Speaker 1:Yeah. That's that's the battle. That is the battle. So before we dive into this, you sent me a video last week when we're going back and forth. And I wanna play the first few minutes of this video because it really sets the stage for what's happening right now.
Speaker 1:And as much as you look at, you know, the truckers and you have, you know, Russia, Ukraine, there is a much deeper thing that's happening almost unnoticed. And I wanna show that, but do you wanna give a brief introduction to this video and who's speaking? Because you know a lot about this.
Speaker 2:Sure. This this was actually put together by by Clay Clark. So and he's, probably the top expert on transhumanism and the World Economic Forum. So the speaker is Doctor. Yuval Noah Harari.
Speaker 2:He's an advisor to Klaus Schwab and to the WEF, which is the World Economic Forum. And he has been at the forefront in the transhumanism movement. So how you can control not just people's DNA and genetic material, but also he speaks about controlling impulses and thoughts. So that's pretty much what the video is about. And he specifically mentions an under the skin technology to achieve this.
Speaker 2:So I hope I didn't give it all away, but it's a very interesting video to listen to and watch.
Speaker 1:Great, so I'm gonna play a first few minutes, but I'll also remind our audience that I decided to still keep this video up on YouTube and Facebook and Karen and I were gonna do our best to walk around the words that you know, do get censored. We're not going to censor the overall meaning of what we're saying though. So we think it's really important. So you might see a little bit of us saying, well, it's the jab instead of saying it's the, you know, whatever. So just getting out there because as Karen said, we have to wake more people up.
Speaker 1:We have to make more people aware of what's happening because there has been a massive campaign to really bring us into a mass psychosis, which they've done a good job at, but right now, we're undoing that. So let's go ahead and play a few minutes of this video. And this is if you haven't seen this yet, this is shocking. So check this out.
Speaker 3:Now in the past, many tyrants and governments wanted to do it, but nobody understood biology well enough, and nobody had enough computing power and data to hack millions of people. Neither the Gestapo nor the KGB could do it. But soon, at least some corporations and governments will be able to systematically hack all the people. We humans should get used to the idea that we are no longer mysterious souls. We are now hackable animals.
Speaker 3:Data might enable human elites to do something even more radical than just build digital dictatorships. By hacking organisms, elites may gain the power to reengineer the future of life itself. Because once you can hack something, you can usually also engineer it. And if indeed we succeed in hacking and engineering life, this will be not just the greatest revolution in the history of humanity. This will be the greatest revolution in biology since the very beginning of life four billion years ago.
Speaker 3:For four billion years, nothing fundamental changed in the basic rules of the game of life. All of life for four billion years, dinosaurs, amoebas, tomatoes, humans, all of life was subject to the laws of natural selections and to the laws of organic biochemistry. But this is now about to change. Science is replacing evolution by natural selection with evolution by intelligent design. Not the intelligent design of some god above the clouds, but our intelligent design and the intelligent design of our clouds, the IBM cloud, the Microsoft cloud, these are the new driving forces of evolution.
Speaker 3:And at the same time, science may enable life after being confined for four billion years to the limited realm of organic compounds. Science may enable life to break out into the inorganic real.
Speaker 1:Just incredible. Especially the part where he's really just making a mockery and saying, well, this is not some god above the clouds as if as if god is some mythical creature. I mean, this this video, and again, kudos to Clay for putting this together, it really paints the picture of what's going on here. So what do you make of all this, Karen?
Speaker 2:I'm working in the industry, just pharma and med device, but actually in biotech. So when they sequenced the human genome and then the technology of CRISPR came along, which allows gene editing to actually take sequences from different viruses, different species, and cut and paste and put them together. Keep in mind that once man figured out the code to create creation, which is man and woman, the genome, scientists decided to start playing God. That's basically what happened with God's ultimate creation, which is his children. So this shouldn't really be a shocker to a lot of people.
Speaker 2:In our lives, we are surrounded by hybrids, by genetic hybrids that have been created by science. This comes in the form of fruits and vegetables. We know that there's hybrids. We know whether it's poultry or beef, a lot of that has been genetically modified so that there's more meat on the chickens. It's less tough with the cows.
Speaker 2:So there's been genetic modifications in our day to day life. People who are connected, I know, I think if you're connected to God and Christ, you would never dream of someone playing with genetic modifications to humans, but that is exactly what's happened. And the viruses too, I mean, whole concept that, remember novel means new, right? So the novel coronavirus, why was it new? Because a virus jumped from a bat to a human, zoonically, naturally.
Speaker 2:That's actually not how God's kingdoms work. We don't have the genetic codes and receptors for that genetic material. So if you read, this is Andrew Huff, but then this is Major Murphy's, Sergeant Major Murphy from the military, the proposal that he released from EcoHealth Alliance to DARPA, they explain how the novel coronavirus was made. They took a bat coronavirus and stuck it in the backbone of a human virus. And then through humanized mice, which they create from fetal cells, they tested it and optimized it to infect humans.
Speaker 2:But they did do also an article March of twenty sixteen. Ecological Alliance published an article saying the only problem with this novel coronavirus, which we call SARS CoV-two, is that it doesn't have epidemic potential because human to human transmission is very rare. And that makes sense because it's from a bat. So So they had to do further adaptation to make it more transmissible. So it's interesting because these people, these scientists, these globalists, they told us the plan.
Speaker 2:I mean, they told us in 2020, there's a novel virus from a bat and it produces a spike protein. And then they came out with a jab in 2021 saying, we took the novel virus from the bat, stuck it in a syringe, and now you're gonna produce the spike protein in your body from the bat virus. And everyone was like, yay. I don't know what happened, Seth. I like,
Speaker 4:no, thank you. No. Thank you. I'm not even vegetarian, but no.
Speaker 2:Thank you. No fat for me. Thank you. So I was like
Speaker 1:Wow. So so, yeah, it is it is kind of incredible. And even now, it's like, you know, they've they've gotten rid of a lot of the mask mandates. You have people protesting, saying, bring back the mask mandates. It's like, you you want to you want to wear these things?
Speaker 1:There's some sort of strange Stockholm syndrome. And a lot I think a lot this ties into this mass psychosis, right, which was doctor Malone was talking about where I think that it's the if you trace back the brainwashing of humans, it's like this has been happening for a really long time. This was, you know, this is pre Nazi that you had Stalin perfecting a lot of these techniques. You had the the Nazis. You had Operation Paperclip with these top Nazis coming over to the US government after World War two and being placed in the positions within the education system, the media, Hollywood.
Speaker 1:And so this has been going on for a very long time. So when you see this, you're right. You have these people cheering like, yes. Right? Like, it's it's really there's something really off with our society that's allowed us to get to this place.
Speaker 2:I agree with you. Hollywood played a major a major role. And part of it too is, you know, we've deviated from truth and from God, very far deviation. And that's what's created this chaos. And without truth, everything is somewhat of a lie.
Speaker 2:And when your common way of communicating with one another is based on lies, you're very easily manipulated, very easily manipulated. But going back to Hollywood, I don't know if you saw the movie Contagion. I believe that was with one of so remember she ate some pork ribs at a restaurant in China. Remember they showed the little pig and the pig got exposed to fat, And then they locked down the entire country. So there's this subconscious programming.
Speaker 2:When humans, especially as children, but even as you get older, when you experience a fear based emotion, there is subconscious programming that goes on. So when we're watching these terrifying movies like Contagion or even zombie movies, that emotion is programming us to have the physical response at a subconscious level. But what's really interesting is if you read all of EcoHealth Alliance's research, and if you look in the NIH database, which your viewers can go to reporter.nih.gov and they can search like Doctor. Fauci's last name or Peter Daszak or Egal Health, and they can see the type of chimeric gain of function research that's going on. Chimeric means from different species.
Speaker 2:Gain of function means to weaponize it. And what's very interesting is like, okay, why were they taking viruses from a bat and trying to put them in the back of a common cold, common coronavirus or the flu, or from Ebola, or from Marburg, or from NEPA, or from all these, or HIV even. You'll find, why are they putting HIV and combining it with the flu and Ebola? This makes no sense because they were trying to achieve human to human airborne transmission, but they've consistently failed. Contagion was programming us to think if there's this outbreak of this deadly flu like virus, we have to lock everything down because of airborne transmission.
Speaker 2:Airborne transmission does not happen unless a weaponized virus is encapsulated in a technology like a lipid nanoparticle, an LNP, and then it would be sprayed. And so this goes into that, too, the EcoHealth Alliance DARPA pitch. They explain how they infect the bats in the bat cave by they give them something to eat with the encapsulated human like bat virus, because it's a bat like human virus to us. Or they put something on their skin because the bats get dry skin. Or they'll spray the caves with timers.
Speaker 2:So if all the bats go down to the cave at 6PM to get the subway, they can then spray the 500 bats waiting for their subway. And that's how they can inoculate them with the weaponized human virus. So it's not funny, but you have to laugh at some of this stuff too. I mean, I can send you some of proposals because they actually make little cartoons in them and they tell you exactly what they're doing. But the good news is they did fail.
Speaker 2:I mean, they have failed human to human airborne transmission, so that's a good thing. I think the scary part, though, too, is when you take a look at the lipid nanoparticles, which are part of encapsulating these chimeric weaponized viruses, is those can also have advanced technology and operating systems. And if you go to the Moderna website, they explain that there's operating systems. And if you go through the patents, you'll see that as well. So that's more or less what Doctor.
Speaker 2:Yuval Noah Harari was talking about. So both playing God from modifying DNA, as well as playing God from an under the skin application that can send signals and thoughts. And he goes on in that video to further talk about that. So he even says, you know, you won't be able to choose who you vote for. We'll choose who you vote for.
Speaker 1:Goodness. So do you think that the the bigger picture of this because as you start looking in this is first you had the discussion, which was, did it come from a bat or did it come from a lab? And there's all the everyone's up in arms about that. And early on, I looked at this. Exactly.
Speaker 1:There you go. Yeah. So but it's like if if if you're tracing back what is the origins of all this, then you realize, okay, there is some intention behind this. So why would it be done? Right?
Speaker 1:And I think there's a lot of, you know, things that point to the fact that the CCP wanted to cripple the world economies and cripple America. I think it was supposed to be worse than what it actually was. I mean, it was made in China, so it obviously failed in ways that they didn't expect it to like, you know, like most things I buy that say made in China, they break early. But do you think that the bigger picture of this as the Yuval is it doctor Yuval? Is that his name?
Speaker 2:His first name is Yuval, and his full name is Yuval Noah Harari. So doctor Harari.
Speaker 1:Doctor Harari. Okay. So with with what he's saying, do you think that the bigger picture is that they needed to release something and have enough of a fear campaign that they could get everybody to rush off and get their jab once it was ready, and that jab was the payload for the DNA modifying, you know, the technology that allows them to put something in us that, you know, they're not releasing the ingredients for this. They're not telling us what it is. We've got five g towers going up everywhere, and there's all you know, a year ago, this is all tin foil tin foil hat stuff.
Speaker 1:But is it is it is that the bigger picture? They want this substance in the majority of Americans so that they can then activate something and start to really control the population as they move us into some sort of dystopian technocracy in the future?
Speaker 2:Yes. The goal is to eliminate free society, basically. So it's almost the ultimate game of hunting, but it's beyond that. It's playing God. So the injections have two goals.
Speaker 2:To control a population, there needs to be a reduced population. And then there needs to be a technology, as Doctor. Harari was speaking about, to control thoughts and behaviors. And if you have CRISPR technology and you can go to a company like Twist Bioscience, I've shown this on other shows, you can go to Twist and you can literally order genetic sequences, make your own chimeric virus or new species like you're ordering a pizza from Domino's. And it's cheap.
Speaker 2:It's like $90 a sequence for a bunch of sequences. And Twist Bioscience is also funded by the NIH and their major manufacturing facility is located in, guess where?
Speaker 1:Wuhan?
Speaker 2:Close. Beijing, China.
Speaker 1:Oh, great.
Speaker 2:Yeah. So it's in China. Yeah. And the NIH is funding the research. So keep in mind too that Secretary of State Antony Blinken in the Biden administration, on October 5, he spoke at the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development, OECD, and he stated that he didn't stay in America.
Speaker 2:He said he and Biden are committed to globally vaccinating the entire human race, seventy percent by the end of twenty twenty two. That was his commitment. He said, regardless of age, regardless of gender, regardless of economic status. So they made a global commitment beyond even America to fund and provide the resources to vaccinate, I'm sorry, the globe, 70% of the globe. So that was a commitment from Secretary Antony Blinken.
Speaker 2:But it's interesting if your viewers go to OECD.org, again, the Organization for Economic Cooperation Development, you'll also find that there's over 200 organizations here in The United States that work with OECD on something called behavioral insights. And as you know, BI is a major part of online behavior tracking, what gets people to do certain behaviors and avoid certain behaviors, and even words that you use. So those organizations include everything from, believe it or not, the IRS, the DOJ, the FDA, Health and Human Services, to Harvard University, to Duke University. And Harvard specifically has been in charge of figuring out how to influence or manipulate Americans to do things that might not be in their best interest. So if you take a look at the studies that Harvard has done in regards to how do we get people to be environmentally compliant, right?
Speaker 2:And reduce our carbon footprint, even though it's a pain in the butt for most of us, we really don't understand the benefit. And what they found in one of their studies was, okay, we'll test to see if we tell Americans if you recycle, then that's better for you because you'll have a cleaner environment. Americans didn't care. They were like, well, tell them it's better for their children. Americans still didn't really care that they said, okay, we're to tell your neighbors, we're going to tell you what your neighbors are doing and whether or not you're not doing it.
Speaker 2:And Americans were like, oh, I don't know, maybe I'll do it then. And then they're like, well, if you don't do it, we're going to tell you that all your neighbors are doing it, and your neighbors are gonna know that you're not doing it. And Americans are like, Oh, okay, that's fine, I'll
Speaker 4:do it. So that's, they actually figured out
Speaker 2:how to church, and that's exactly what they did with the jobs, right? I mean, whether someone worked at Pfizer or an airline, because I mean, I spoke with a lot of attorneys, everyone got an email or a letter that said 98% of employees have gotten the job and if you don't get it, you're going to be terminated. I'm like, how is it that every company had 98% you know, jabbed? And it a lie to make you feel excluded and to make you feel like everyone knew that you were the only one that didn't get it. And I'm friends with Melissa McAfee, who's the actual whistleblower from Pfizer manufacturing.
Speaker 2:And she said, Yeah, they all got this letter manufacturing. And then they're all looking around, they're like, Did you get it? And they're like, Heck no, we're not getting this, the whole department got a letter saying 98% got jammed, but they actually hadn't, like in their entire department, there was like maybe two people. It's a whole, yeah, there's a whole mental manipulation that's part of this as well. And I think, I guess I've been blessed to be an analyst and writer and editor where you always have to go back to the original source for truth and fact checking.
Speaker 2:And that's what I think has kept me from being deceived. I mean, that and obviously, in the actual word, right? And I actually am a big follower student, if you will, of Jordan Peterson. And I remember do you know Jordan Peterson out of Toronto? Oh,
Speaker 1:I'm I'm a huge fan of Jordan. He's one of, like, my my top 10 guests I hope to eventually interview.
Speaker 2:So I would get a show just to interview him. I same same way. I was just like, can I get a show so I can interview him? But I remember it was in 2018, the Canadian government decided and had to accept and use these new pronouns, that there was no It was
Speaker 1:the compelled speech.
Speaker 2:Yeah. I remember he said, look, when the government starts changing the definitions of words and mandating the use of those words, like creating laws, he goes, that's the beginning of tyranny. Wow, it was foreshadowing, obviously not even knowing that this was what was going to happen, this mass attempt at a tyrannical takedown of freedom around the globe. But then think about it. That's how we got the term, like, if we can't define the difference between man and woman, is basic creation, that's where everything starts, Then everything is up for debate, which it should not be.
Speaker 2:That's why when they call something a highly deadly virus, and we all know it's similar to the flu, you can't have interpretations that are, I say it's black, you say it's white, we agree to disagree. That's not truth. You can't have law. So even the SCOTUS ruling, the Supreme Court ruling to mandate for healthcare workers that they get the jab based on a definition of a vaccine that prevents transmission. But this, the documents, according to the FDA, CDC, and NIH, it does not prevent transmission.
Speaker 2:So what definition was that ruling based on?
Speaker 1:Yeah. It's almost like, I think that the more you dig into this, it's intentional. So remember thinking to myself at one point, you'd see when Fauci's emails came out, and they said, okay, he he he contradicted so much of what he said. And then you'd even see that CNN is showing that, you know, there's a study that shows that this doesn't work like it's supposed to, whether it was a mass or whatever. And at first, I was thinking I was thinking, wow, the narrative is breaking.
Speaker 1:This is fantastic. But then the more you look into to it, the more you start to see that it's intentional. And if you if you look into, you know, I'm not sure if you're familiar with the MK Ultra, right? Was a CIA brainwashing program. They knew that what they had to do is they had to fracture people's reality.
Speaker 1:That's what enabled them to be brainwashed. They have to break them down. They have to get it so they can't trust what's next. And even if you look at how we have this cycle, right, if you look into mass psychosis, there's this brilliant book called the rape of the mind by a Dutch psychoanalyst that was alive during, you know, Nazi, you know, when the Nazis were occupying that region, and he was obsessed with studying how a totalitarian regime can brainwash its people. And a lot of what he found went back into Pavlov and and, you know, Stalin was a huge fan of Pavlov and had a Pavlovian Institute in Moscow to understand how to condition brainwash people.
Speaker 1:But what they found and what if you look in the again, the CIA MK Ultra, it's about creating mass confusion, and they intentionally do it. So you feel like there's a new variant, and then everyone gets really scared. But then you feel like, okay, it's settling down again. But then just just before you get back to normal, as you start to feel comfortable, something else comes up again. How many times have we seen that happen?
Speaker 1:Because they know intentionally, that that will cause us to not be able to believe in any stability in the future, which really destabilizes us in the current and it enables us or enables them to come in and have Fauci or someone that you become almost like a godlike figure, which is like, blindly trust the science and whatever science says. And doesn't matter if science contradicts itself, it's still science, and I will basically, I'll make you my golden calf. Is is is that and that's why I see things see things where things are headed, which is why truth speakers like yourself are such a threat to and I don't even like calling the elites. They're more like the social engineers or the scum at the top of the earth, right? But you're such a threat to them because you break their narrative.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Well, I think the important part is I show the American people their own documents that contradict the statements that these organizations are making, whether it's the FDA, CDC or NIH. And these documents are publicly available. My resources always end in a .gov URL. So I think that's what was empowering, where I've always said, Don't trust me.
Speaker 2:Look at the FDA's own documents. Doctor. Fauci says he does not fund gain of function research. Well, go onto the NIH website, reporter.nih.gov, and type in Ebola virus, and you'll find tens of millions of dollars to create a chimeric weaponized Ebola virus, which is a gain of function virus. And then you'll find more money to make the vaccine to the virus that Fauci's funding.
Speaker 2:So that was an interesting thing too, is this document explains before they make the inoculations, they have to make the virus first. Yeah, this has all been orchestrated, planned for decades. And the truth is the systems that are in place right now have become, especially the FDA, NIH, they are so corrupt, there needs to be a complete restructure. So I think one of the things that was alarming though is we asked, the way to get out of a situation is to figure out how did we get into it? So even going back beyond the declarations that this virus was a threat to national security in actually January 27 by Secretary Azar, what did that mean?
Speaker 2:Well, under the Obama Cures Act, they enhanced a lot of what was under the PREP Act and PAPRA Act, including making it okay to basically throw out the entire Food and Drug Consumer Protection Act. So if there's a threat to national security declared by the head of HHS, then the FDA doesn't need to make a manufacturer go through all the safety protocols to bring a product to market. So that includes not having to complete the safety studies for phase one, two and three. That means not having to follow the code of federal regulations for those studies. So when they met on October twentieth of twenty twenty, they meeting the FDA with some of the manufacturers and they said, Hey, here's some effects of these jabs, myocarditis, thrombocytopenia, I mean, the list goes on, paralysis.
Speaker 2:So normally you would never be allowed to go past a phase one study, but because it's under an EUA, they said, Oh no, that's okay. We're going to keep moving forward. So you're not supposed to put anyone at unnecessarily high risk or greater risk for therapy than an actual disease. It makes no sense. And then the other thing is under the Cures Act, specifically 30124, which was Obama, they waived informed consent.
Speaker 2:And I think there was, again, because we don't have a truth, I think there's a difference between not telling someone the effects of a therapy or a product versus lying to them about it. And this last two years has all been based on lies. And keep in mind, they're not stupid people. To be excellent at Lonnie, you have to be highly intelligent. So this is not, oops, it was a mistake.
Speaker 2:We just rush things. This was well thought out, strategically thought out by people with harmful intentions for others that are very, very intelligent.
Speaker 1:And very powerful and very wealthy. And, you know, it's it's like what we've seen happening in Canada right now, and you have the World Economic Forum coming out saying that, you know, more than half of Trudeau's candidate or his cabinet are I think the the young leaders, I forget the name is, but they're they're basically plants. They're they're put there by the world economic form. So you can see just how much they've subverted our society, which is just it's frightening. But where what do you see happening next?
Speaker 1:Like, right now, we're going through this period where we feel like things are lifting. You know, every day you're hearing about a new city or a new county or a new state that's lifting mask mandates or whatnot, but I'm also hearing rumblings of Marburg. I'm hearing about hemorrhagic fever. You have AIDS even being mentioned. So what do you think I know it's it's hard to predict these things, but what do you think comes next in this?
Speaker 2:Well, if there is another emergence, what they call EID, emerging infectious disease of pandemic proportion, keep in mind, they have failed at making these diseases human to human airborne transmissible. So if there is an attack, it's a bioweapon attack. But I think we should buckle down for that, prepare for it. There's rumors that there will be an attack China or coming out of China. And they gave us the game plan on how they do it.
Speaker 2:I mean, it could be in food, it could be in hand sanitizer literally, or it could be an aerosol attack. And if you take a look at the outbreak in Wuhan in 2020, or not 2019, '20 '20, Kings County, which was in Washington in 2020, and then New York City, it looks like it was an attack because there wasn't human to human transmission. So I think that's kind of something not to take comfort in, but to kind of take comfort in. So I think that might be the next thing unless we get ahead of this, unless there are strong powers in place, there are the good guys that can get ahead of another attack. I think what's important to do, though, is to, if you understand the truth, to speak the truth, both show up at the rallies and the protests, send emails to your local governance, to your school boards, and then reach across the aisle and talk to people as well, because the darkness must flee in the light.
Speaker 2:And I know this to be true. We're taught this in God's word. Unfortunately, I'm one of the few not so great people in my life. But the truth is what scares cowards the most. And they will kick and scream and they will shout their lies louder and louder.
Speaker 2:But it's important to point out that these people lied and intentionally lied to manipulate people. And it's really interesting that talking about words again, the word liar started to disappear from our language when President Bill Clinton was in office and he got caught with his pants down literally, right? And all of a sudden, it was untruth or I don't know. They just started changing the word so we couldn't call people liars. And I think that's important.
Speaker 2:You have to call a spade a spade, you know? You can't say, Well, they're ethically challenged or ethically open minded. No, no, they're liars and they're lying to manipulate people for their benefit and to others harm. That's what they're doing. And I think that's really important to point out.
Speaker 2:Then, don't get me wrong. Sometimes people get things wrong. I've gotten things wrong. And I think it's important to fact check people and make sure it's consistent. But there's another thing when you see a consistent type of behavior and narrative that's based on lies, false information and lies, to manipulate people.
Speaker 2:So I think that's what's important. I think the other thing that's important too is as we prepare for the next panic attack or whatever you want to call it, is be intelligent and be thoughtful before sharing information on social media. I think that's part of how we got into this mess. We became a country of headlines. And even the CDC is guilty of this in their own Morbidity and Mortality Weekly reports.
Speaker 2:Their headlines will say something like unvaxxed people have a higher hospitalization rate. And then you read the report, you're like, the data says the exact opposite of that. I think that's an important thing to do. And it even comes down to photos. I think we're starting to see some of this happening in Canada.
Speaker 2:Someone sent me a photo of a little girl and she was surrounded by the military. And I was like, Where'd this photo come from? And then someone was like, Just a trucker. And I was like, Well, it was very emotionally triggering. I don't know where it came from.
Speaker 2:And if this is to start, and someone else was sharing confidential WhatsApp conversations where the police were allegedly saying that they were laughing about how Canadian citizens were getting injured. And it's like, well, is that actually valid? And it's very emotionally triggering to create more of a divide. So these are all things to think about before you share. I mean, maybe share with your best friend or your spouse first and talk it through and then then think about intention, think about what it is you want to accomplish.
Speaker 2:And I think none of us want war, and we all want to unify around the globe. And I think that's what we have to think about, what can we share that's gonna help unify people? At the same time, we do have to go against this fascist narrative that's taking place and brainwashing some people. So it's an interesting time. Yeah, would say just don't feed into the fear, but there's a fine line between being paranoid and being informed at this point in our history.
Speaker 2:Yeah,
Speaker 1:yeah. Yeah, and I think it's also important just to face the truth willingly because we can't have our head in the sand. I think that's a lot of what, you know, America up until this, not to say we had our head in the sand, but we were stuck with the bread and circuses. We really, you know, we just sent our kids off to school, we sent our parents off to the old people homes, we, you know, weren't stopped paying attention to our churches. And now it's all coming back.
Speaker 1:I think that, you know, you mentioned looking at how we got there or how we got here to where we are. And, yes, you can say that there's been this sinister agenda that's happened happening over a long period of time, but it's also it's it's us who we've allowed it to happen. We've allowed ourselves to get distracted and focused and and everything. And so so I wanna I have another question for me. I have a quick just note to tell people that at in about fifteen minutes, we're gonna be doing our the live q and a.
Speaker 1:So if you have questions for Karen, but that'll be on rye over on Rise TV. There's a link in the description below to to join up or to get a free trial for that, but that's in about fifteen minutes. Just put that out there. So, Karen, with with what's happening next, because if you look in if you look in the video we played already, you could see that it couldn't be more obvious that this entire thing is an attack on God. And then it really is this is the Tower Of Babel.
Speaker 1:You know, this is, you know, people that believe that they are above God. And eventually, that comes back to get them. Eventually, you have you look at places like Sodom and Gomorrah, where the immorality in the in the this it's the satanic behavior only goes for so long. And that's what when people say, Seth, how do you have hope? It's like, well, I do believe this is a spiritual war, and I have all my reasons for that.
Speaker 1:But it's like, in the end, you have to remember, it was God who kicked Satan out of heaven. Right? It was God who allowed, you know, Satan reign over the earth to tempt people and all these things. And so it's like at the end of the day, eventually things have to level out. But how do you look at this phrase that the perspective of a spiritual battle?
Speaker 1:And how can we really fight in the right ways to get on top of this and take control over this? Because I think that if we just sit back and let them, they will take us in this transhumanist future. But I think that more and more people are saying, I'm not going to do that, and and we're starting to get the upper hand.
Speaker 2:Well, first, let me say I agree with you 1000% on everything that you just said, and that this is a spiritual battle, and God wins. And I think you're talking about what happened in our churches, what happened in our families, our communities, and it's that we started to think we were more powerful than maybe we are. And I think as far as God is going to defeat evil, like you said, with or without us, it's whether or not we're going to be locked out of the kingdom. So people have said, Karen, you're so brave and thank you. But this was put on my heart by God to do what I do for my clients, help.
Speaker 2:Basically, the message I got was wanting to call 911 for my children. So what I did was I then, and this is what I recommend, anyone that's afraid of losing their job or losing a friend or being not asked to come back to an event, a local community event, or even, obviously losing a job is terrible, I mourned everything I was afraid to lose. And that's in scripture too. Mean, that's Abraham had to mourn the loss of his son that God put on his heart, the sacrifice. So I simply mourned everything that I was afraid to lose if I came forward, which includes my career, includes my safety, included everything.
Speaker 2:And I just mourned it and then put your trust in God and then you can move forward because then the world isn't going to have anything over you. It's because your trust and your faith is in God. And so when you do that, I really think God just guides you, puts you in connection with the right people. The first thing I did too is I repented for my participation in this downfall of humanity. I got way too comfortable with, we're talking about, it wasn't acceptance of other people's sexual preferences.
Speaker 2:It was perversity, perversity down to our school level, down to I was going to cocktail parties where 12 year old children were identifying as the opposite gender. And then I had to go play along with this sickness where parents were allowing mutilation to their child, giving them It's just sick. It was just sick. And then even our participation in getting too comfortable with socialism, and I think the book of James calls us to work, to earn our pay. And so all of these things, I think that's two part.
Speaker 2:One, repent, like figure out how you participated in this. And second, mourn what you're afraid to lose. Then you just move forward. There's not one answer for any one individual, I think. But I think people are, like you say, waking up, they're showing up, they're speaking up.
Speaker 2:Here in, obviously in San Diego, California, still have to put up with these masks at some of the schools. So it's like, just gonna continue to send letters, send emails, show up when you participate. So maybe don't be so comfortable with some of the mandates if you live in a community like I live in. I refuse, don't wear the masks if they're making you wear a mask. Speak to people saying, I'd love to see your face.
Speaker 2:I I would love to be able to see you and speak with you and maybe give people compliments and positive feedback to what you want them to do instead of criticisms. So that's another thing to do in your day to day lives.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's a good point. It's funny because oftentimes, if I go to, if I had to go into Columbus, you know, to go to Whole Foods to go grocery shopping or something, I'm usually one of three people in the entire store not wearing a mask. But the people that aren't though, I look at them and I'll smile at them and I'll say, I love seeing your face. Yeah. It's this this this beautiful moment and it it's like I I I feel like you're my brother in arms and I I I give him this big smile and, you know, they're they're always looking at my daughter and smiling, and she's just a little ball of joy.
Speaker 1:But there's also people around me around that interaction that are listening, and they're hearing that, and they're thinking, like, oh, yeah, you're right. Because I think that's also a big part of it, and a big part of the overall agenda is to cut us off from each other. I think that, you know, the which I think in a lot of ways is a way of cutting us off from God because I think that God comes in through the love and the communion among our friends and family and the people that we really care about to help strengthen us. And so I think that's it's it's a really important message, but I do believe this has what you're saying is that people are waking up. You know, even people that I know that were completely down the CNN track and they were just living, you know, in in fear.
Speaker 1:They're out of their second booster. Even people like that are are coming to me and they're saying, I'm done with this like II got I'm up to my second booster and this is still going on like I'm done living in fear and and they're rejecting that. But then also they're saying, where can I find more information? So it's an incredible time, but it's also it's a really critical time because it's the I think that fundamentally if this is a battle of good and evil, which I believe it is it manifests in the the hearts and minds and souls of each individual person. And so it's almost like every person that we can wake up, it's almost as if there's a spell of evil everywhere.
Speaker 1:And if you have this little magic wand of truth, every person you can wake up comes and joins your army, and that's what wins this war for us.
Speaker 2:I agree. I think it even comes down to, in the book of Matthew, when they asked Jesus, what is the most important commandment? And he said there's two. And keep in mind, back then, there was 600 or 700 commandments, I think, in the original Jewish scripture. He said there's two, love God with all your heart and all your mind, and then love your neighbor as yourself through that love of God.
Speaker 2:So that's how we defeat this is through community, through connection. And I love actually what Jordan Peterson said, which is that you're made in the image of God, act like it. And we're all human, we all get angry and frustrated and stuff, but keep in mind that the power of God's love for you, and then how can you share that with other people? And I do believe that's a great approach to waking people up and connecting with them. And it's a great way to alleviate the fear through God's truth, not necessarily always just with facts and science, which I know people are like, That's kind of ironic that she's saying that because that's all I know to talk about is facts and data and documents.
Speaker 2:It is actually through connection. Even Doctor. David Martin gave great advice, too. He's like, if you want to wake people up, live a life worth living. I'm paraphrasing what he said.
Speaker 1:That's a great point.
Speaker 2:Yeah, have a smile on your face. Do things that are fun. Have a balance in your step when you go out. And other people will be like, why aren't they all scared?
Speaker 4:And it's a great opportunity for always found, I'm actually, I used
Speaker 2:to be a dance instructor. I actually used to be a dance instructor many decades ago in New York City. It's so fun teaching dance class and I'm always in a great mood afterwards. And then like sometimes people would come up to me and they're like, what's up with you? I always would just, it's a great time to evangelize.
Speaker 2:And I just say, oh, I'm really blessed. They're like, oh, tell me more about that. And I think that's an opportunity now to have in America is to share the word with people. And truly, it's the greatest medicine on earth. And I think the way we get out of this is through truth, through God's love, and recognizing, again, repentance, recognize that we were harmed, we were manipulated, we were deceived.
Speaker 2:And once we recognize that we are harmed, we will be healed, as individuals, as communities, and as a nation. But that we have to just recognize the harm happened so that we can be healed. Just like group therapy, right? I go that way. A big national global therapy session we're gonna go through.
Speaker 1:No, you're so right. And that that brings me to a really important question because there's a lot of people that, like the folks I was talking about that they have woken up in the middle of this. And so if someone, you know, sees the video we showed about the World Economic Forum and the transhumous agenda, and they're thinking, Oh my gosh, I've already had two j and j's. Like, are they going to start controlling my thoughts? Or what would you tell somebody because I think a lot of our viewers, they have this has been during the process, they've understood these things.
Speaker 1:So what would you tell somebody that is that they already got one or two shots or maybe even a booster, that they're now understanding the reality of this, what would your advice to them be?
Speaker 2:I always recommend people to acknowledge how they're feeling. The best way to do that is to write that out. And I would even recommend to people if they did this by the advice of their employer or by their doctor to first write it out on your own, read it, but send a message being like, I've come to the realization that this was never for my health and safety. If you've educated yourself, share that information with the person that communicated to you to do this, because that's an important part. Accountability is important and raising awareness about it.
Speaker 2:And to that, would also say is, I don't know who else you can notify. This is actually a great But the more people that recognize that they were manipulated and best case scenario, this did nothing for their health. Worst case scenario, they could have been harmed. Expressing that is how we're gonna be able to bring forth therapies and potentially even some curative treatments. But right now, because if people are on board with the injections, then there is nothing that's going to get through the current infrastructure to heal people that were harmed from them, if that makes sense.
Speaker 2:So I think it's very important to acknowledge how you feel about this, acknowledge where did you get this information from, and write that down and share it. And I know there's a number of attorneys with different lawsuits. I just, I know Thomas Renz and I think American Frontline Doctors, but this is valuable information to share because it does need to be accountability. And you know what, if you got your information from CNN, there's a way to contact CNN, send them a message saying, And especially if you actually did experience an effect, a negative effect. The darkness must flee in the light and accountability is very, very important.
Speaker 2:And I think it's okay to do that. But again, in a neutral, get your emotions out and then share your information in a non emotional way, if possible.
Speaker 1:That's that's really good advice. I think especially just especially if someone has been injured or there's any kinds of the side effects have come along, which we're seeing increasing rates of that yet to let people know. And I think also that one way I can look at it is that that we have to remember that this is a battle. It's not a battle of flesh and blood. This is a it's a much it's much bigger than that.
Speaker 1:It's much higher than it's much more divine than that. And I think that for people that are slowly waking up to this, if you look at a lot of the people that are out there telling the truth, sometimes they do it in a very absolute way. It will be a bold headline about, you know, mass depopulation agenda. Like, it's it's very it can be very shocking to them. And I know that some people that are, you know, truth tellers and are on the front lines of this with big radio shows or podcasts, it's almost as if they talk about it like it you've already taken a suicide pill.
Speaker 1:And to me, that is not gonna help anything because
Speaker 2:someone has I don't know true. But Seth, it's not true, right? No one who, and I've never opined on this, on how many people are gonna die or whatever, because the information's not available to the general population as far as who was injected with what. We know there's various formulations. Second of all, there are different treatments, some of which appear to be curative, right?
Speaker 2:But we can't get them through the current FDA infrastructure, nor will anyone have a fair awareness of them. Look what the media did to hydroxychloroquine. I mean, for goodness sakes. So what needs to happen is for people to come forward and speak the truth. If they were harmed, say they were harmed.
Speaker 2:Notify, again, if you got your information from the news, notify the news. But again, work through your emotions first and then notify who you need to notify. And that's how we can be healed. But yeah, I agree with you that these doomsday forecasts are no better and no different than when Fauci and Birx got on the media on March 31 saying two point two million Americans are gonna die if we don't shut down the economy. It just wasn't true.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Yeah. Well, it's the ultimate placebo effect. And I've also I've thought sometimes is like, is there this alternate agenda? Is there this ultimate controlled misinformation to make people even fear the jab so much that if they think that they got it or their their spouse got it, the shedding is gonna kill them or, you know, because I've thought it's like whether you're afraid of the virus or you're afraid of the jab, it's aren't we all just living in fear in that point?
Speaker 1:I think that it's again, of course, you want you want to do research, you want to find the truthful information and find what's real. But I think that what's really key here is that it's faith over fear. You know, we can't allow faith we can't allow fear to creep in because even fear of itself can make us sick and can kill us.
Speaker 4:I agree with you. Can. As I said earlier, there's a
Speaker 2:fine line between being paranoid and understanding the reality of the situation that we're in. The fear can be paralyzing and it can be just as harmful and more harmful than the actual threat. So I absolutely agree with you on that. That's why I think it's important though. It's reasonable to feel upset, to feel angry, to feel even down to the point of feeling depressed about stuff, but mourn it, work it out, give it over to God, write it out, and then think about, okay, what do you want the outcome to be ultimately?
Speaker 2:And you want the outcome to be, you want to regain your health, you want to regain your financial stability, you want to regain your friendships and your connections. That's what we all want. And accountability is important, but that's not just to address to somebody, this is the information you shared with me. I'm finding out now that it was not accurate, it was false, and it caused me harm. And I think you should know that.
Speaker 2:I think that's important to tell people. What I found most disheartening was not any information I read. It was that at the school level, at the healthcare provider level, that the scripture, The love of money is the root of all evil, causing man to turn from his faith and pierce his soul with deep sorrows, or pierce his heart with deep sorrows. I never understood the scripture. I didn't think people could be paid off to look the other way when people, not just people, but when children were being harmed, including the masks, like that.
Speaker 2:Yeah. So you're getting huge bonuses to stunt the development, the social, emotional, and intellectual development of children, and you're okay with that, it's willful ignorance. So that was what I found. Like you said, this is definitely good and evil. I think that was possible.
Speaker 2:I just didn't. Yeah.
Speaker 1:That's something that
Speaker 2:Go on.
Speaker 1:Wait, go ahead.
Speaker 2:I was gonna say, I thought we had like 3,000 globalists we were dealing with, not your local school board, know?
Speaker 1:Yeah. Yeah. And that's something that I think, as the last point to make before jump into the q and a is that you have to understand that the level of evil that can exist. And if you look into Solzhenitsyn, or if you look into, you know, man's search for meaning, or some of these these books that people have written about, you know, whether it's the gulags or the holocaust, you know, a lot of them talk about the importance. This is why I really like what Jordan Peterson is he really recognizes that we have to realize that all of us have the potential to be as evil as a Nazi guard as much as we say we wouldn't.
Speaker 1:And it's like, it's actually the willful ignorance or the cognitive dissonance of that type of evil on earth that allows it to exist. And so if you recognize that you have that potential, and every human has that potential, I think it makes you much more discerning and you take the you guard yourself a lot stronger against evil.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I agree with that.
Speaker 2:And I yeah, Jordan Peterson talks about Carl Jung and the shadow, right? The Apostle Paul talks about it too. Why why do I do not what God intends me to do, but what my flesh wants me to do? So it's recognizing that we all have a shadow that there is, and wrestling with it, and repenting again, like saying, this were to, really go into that situation, if this were to happen, how would I respond? And I think the way to overcome, we know this, the way to overcome the darkness inside of us, because we all are sinners, is through God, is through your trust in God and God's love for you and really understanding that.
Speaker 2:And then you can't be manipulated by the world to do evil things. And at the end of the day, too, people ask, why would people do this? I'm like, because I didn't think they would get caught. Honestly, that's what it comes down to. But if you understand that at the end of the day, the end of your life, you report to one God, you're gonna get caught one way or another.
Speaker 2:That's such
Speaker 1:a good point. It's I don't do that because I know that I'll get caught. It's like, actually, I know I will fundamentally.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you're gonna get caught. Yeah, I've said this, does an employee steal money or supplies? They don't think they're gonna get caught. Why does a spouse cheat? They don't think they're gonna get caught.
Speaker 2:You're gonna get caught. And they're getting caught right now.
Speaker 1:That's true. So we're gonna hop over for under Rise TV for a little bit of Q and A. But before I go, I'm gonna play a trailer before we head over. This is the reawakening. This is episode one of a three part actually, a four part series.
Speaker 1:Karen, have you watched this documentary yet? No. I haven't. It's it's so good. So I'll play the trailer, and once the trailer ends, Dom, as soon as the trailer ends, you can cut the feed.
Speaker 1:So thank you for those that joined us on YouTube, Facebook, and Rumble. And maybe we said the right thing, so I think we're still up on Rumble and Facebook. So your name alone didn't, you know, scare off the or, you know, have the comment You got kicked off, though.
Speaker 2:Right? You got kicked off YouTube?
Speaker 1:No. We're still on YouTube. Yeah.
Speaker 4:Oh, this is a first for me.
Speaker 2:Yep. Yes.
Speaker 1:So yep. We're still on YouTube. So so I'm gonna go and play this trailer, and once it's once it ends, then we'll be over on Rise TV for the q and a. If you wanna come join us, like I said, in the description of the video, there is a link for a free trial. Come join us.
Speaker 1:Check it out if you wanna stick around. I'd love that, but it gives you that option. So check out this trailer, which which we just launched this documentary on Rise TV.
Speaker 3:A beautiful day in downtown Oklahoma City.
Speaker 4:Game tonight has been postponed. You are all safe. We're in a very fragile place.
Speaker 5:How do I be successful in my business when I'm being told by my government that I have to close my doors?
Speaker 4:In the Thrive Time show, we try to teach people how to grow a business. If I have questions and wants to get to the truth, he wanna know why we were shut down. Where is this coming from?
Speaker 1:China had this festering.
Speaker 4:We need that data. What are
Speaker 1:they gonna do when they come for your kids? The answer is no.
Speaker 4:Boutique Kid, I know anything really about anything, and I'd say that to his face. Delora, I really appreciate you for allowing me to help you. We have people in charge over our communities that we don't know what their philosophy is. Our country has become godless. We've taken god out of everything.
Speaker 4:The markets today plummeted. They will not allow us within 30 to a hundred feet. I called general Flynn. I said, I feel like god wants us to team up to do a reopen America tour, and we get people back to god. And he says, I know.
Speaker 4:I'm going, you know? What is required for the darkness to creep in is the absence of light. We seem to have lost the value of our basic