EP 36 | Drinking B's & Bumping P's

Join us for a lively conversation blending humor, personal stories, and insights on topics ranging from craft beers and pop culture to sports and Florida Man headlines. Discover the unique perspectives and entertaining banter that make this episode a must-listen. In this engaging interview, we explore the world of craft beer, sports legends, and cultural insights, featuring lively discussions on beer ratings, basketball icons, and humorous anecdotes. Discover expert opinions, fun facts, and behind-the-scenes stories that keep listeners hooked.

Hosts:
Grizz:
https://www.instagram.com/senpaistrength
Ice Bear:
https://www.instagram.com/_._icebear_._

Untappd Accounts:
http://untappd.com/user/IceBearBeer
http://untappd.com/user/GrizzlyBearBeer

Chapters:
00:00 Introduction and Beer Talk
11:40 Nostalgia and Y2K Memories
21:05 Gaming Experiences and Preferences
23:35 Introduction to Collective Arts Beer
24:27 Tasting the Cherry Limeade Sour
25:45 Discussion on K-Pop Demon Hunters
27:16 Exploring the Golden Fog Beer
28:42 Reflections on Sports Heartbreaks
30:25 Memories of Cowboys and Playoff Disappointments
33:21 Comparing Fan Experiences Across Teams
37:00 The Absurdity of Florida Man Stories
43:12 Cultural Insights on Florida's Uniqueness
48:22 Personal Experiences with Painkillers
49:05 The Impact of Substance Use
50:19 Beer Tasting and Flavor Profiles
51:36 The Art of Brewing and Expectations
53:10 Basketball Legends: Kobe vs. LeBron
57:08 The Great Debate: Kobe's Legacy
01:00:56 Modern Basketball Stars and Their Influence
01:15:21 The Joy of TikTok Games
01:18:22 Word Association Challenge
01:20:20 The Fun of Competitive Games
01:22:21 Exploring TikTok Trends
01:23:15 Quizzes and Trivia Nights
01:24:23 Memes and Patriotism
01:25:25 Olympic Spirit and National Pride
01:27:19 Wrestling Nostalgia and Iconic Moments
01:30:26 Reflections on Celebrity Encounters
01:32:23 The Unhinged Nature of Conversations
01:38:43 EP 36 outro.

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Creators and Guests

Host

Grizz

Texas never saw a more hefty bear.

Host

Ice Bear

The fairest bear in all of Maple Land

What is 2 Bears 2 Beers?

"2 Bears 2 Beers" is a fun and laid-back podcast where two friends, often indulging in a beer or two, chat about anything and everything. From quirky stories to random thoughts, it’s all about enjoying great conversation and sharing laughs in a relaxed, no-pressure vibe. Perfect for anyone looking to unwind and have a good time!

Grizz (00:33)
⁓ yeah.

Ice Bear (00:38)
I'm excited for it, but that was a little disappointing. That was a little flaccid sounding.

Grizz (00:42)
Mine cracked

a little too hard. went straight into the microphone. My microphone's an alcoholic. my Lord, that can looks glorious from the side. Is that just judging by the art?

Ice Bear (00:49)
ehhhh

You know who it is already.

Grizz (00:55)
Is that the minions of the Wicked Witch of the West?

Ice Bear (01:00)
It

sure is. It sure is. And look at this. Look at this little translucent.

Grizz (01:08)
Banana!!

Ice Bear (01:10)
Okay, where to start? to start? So much to talk about. Where to start? Where to start? First of all, let's address the usual elephant in room. What do they call me, Grizz? What do they call me?

Grizz (01:25)
Ice Poppa?

Ice Bear (01:26)
What else do the kids call me related to my beer consumption?

Grizz (01:31)
⁓ an autumn heifer also known as a pumpkin slut

Ice Bear (01:35)
Yes,

that is both correct depending on where you live, Autumn Half or Pumpkin Slut. They also call me Vessels McGee due to my fine assortment of vessels and there is a new one this week. This made the trip back from the Seal Mama visit to New Zealand and so we have a New Zealand Pipe Glass ready to be bombarded with Canadian brews.

Grizz (01:49)
⁓ my lord.

Not that.

That sounds delightful.

Ice Bear (02:11)
Hot Dog!

Grizz (02:12)
Hotdog, hotdog, hot diggity dog.

Ice Bear (02:16)
Now what does my beloved pal, Gris, have up?

You look like you're a man that's about to drink bees and bump peas.

Grizz (02:25)
Okay.

We're drinking bees and bumping bees.

Ice Bear (02:31)
What's that bad boy?

Grizz (02:34)
So

this bad boy right here, you know what? I'm just gonna go right into it. It's a great notion. It's been a fairly local, local brewery. By local, it's local enough. It's Portland, Oregon, you know?

Ice Bear (02:52)
Part of the PNW.

Grizz (02:56)
And one thing that they do good, and I was dying on a cable. One thing that they do good. When you think of Portland, Oregon, you think of.

Ice Bear (03:07)
uhhhh fent lean

Grizz (03:10)
And when that's not there, it's usually, ⁓ is voodoo donuts from Portland, Oregon.

Ice Bear (03:13)
foodie donuts.

Oregon now I'm blanking if it's Portland I feel like it's not Portland now I'm worried

Grizz (03:21)
I had no

idea that it was even from Portland

Ice Bear (03:24)
⁓ no. Alright.

You keep going, I'm gonna fact check myself on voodoo donuts.

Grizz (03:27)
Alright.

Ice Bear (03:31)
Two minutes in, I'm already saying misinformation. is terrible.

Grizz (03:31)
Well.

Well, you think of Portland, Oregon, you think of the PNW and you think of woodland creatures that look a little menacing. And if you look at these woodland creatures, they look a little they look a little angy They look like tough boys, right? They look at that duck and that pine, the wolf.

Ice Bear (03:54)
I, he,

he does look tough. He looks like he has like pants to kid in high school underneath the bleachers.

Grizz (04:02)
These guys look like they play some sports and this is a sports. He plays a right here and I think this is pretty on brand with, know, we got the whole sports ball playoffs going on right now. This feels very on the money. This one right here.

Ice Bear (04:05)
Hahaha

Yes, we do.

Grizz (04:20)
There's no, there's no description. It's just sports. This is a sports HIPAA. It's a 7%.

Ice Bear (04:25)
It's just sports.

Okay, that's all you need to know. The can is great. It looks like it could be ⁓ delectable. It is a great nation in which it comes from. Also, you know what makes it a really great nation? I was not wrong. Voodoo Donuts is originally from Portland. So I didn't make that up. I'm not lying to the people yet. Give it time.

Grizz (04:29)
It's all you need to know.

That is interesting. Cause like I, I don't know where I thought it was from. I think there was one in Austin for a long time and I was just assuming it was an Austin thing.

Ice Bear (05:00)
2003, found it in Portland. So, your keen grizzle bear eye immediately noticed flying monkeys are back at it again. And I saw this little number and I could not resist. This is flying monkeys. A light moves.

Grizz (05:17)
I freaking love that. is.

Ice Bear (05:19)
Notice he is wearing little bunny slippers.

He is winged. It is is Reptar on a muck. And and they describe this as light moves, small eba. It walks tall with fresh surprises at every sip. Melon, berry, peach notes, roll through a fluffy slipper of hot, of smooth hops. Four percent. So it's a little itty bitty, crispy IPA, a gentle giant that can crush all day. I can say ⁓ having

gotten halfway through this, could have 25 of these. It's so, it's very tasty.

Grizz (05:55)
I mean, it looks okay. one, it looks very bright. It looks like what old gris calls them porch pounders. You can just

Ice Bear (06:02)
This is...

I immediately thought of that. It's a porch pounder for sure. ⁓ It's gonna be ceilinged at an A because it's a 4 % but were it stronger...

Grizz (06:10)
The can art.

OK.

Ice Bear (06:21)
It's very good.

Grizz (06:21)
stronger.

The can art though for sure is probably my favorite from Flying Monkeys. At least top two.

Ice Bear (06:30)
It's so good. mean, look, look at him. Look at him.

Grizz (06:32)
I love that can art.

Look at him. Look at him.

Ice Bear (06:40)
It's like the Godzilla fireworks from New Year's.

More things need to be dragons, it's not that hard.

Grizz (06:49)
I feel like, you know, cause like the flame t-shirts and stuff, dragons got a little cringe. I feel like, I feel like it's swung too hard that way. And like, they need to bring dragons back. Dragons are cool as fuck. Like, like they need to get brung back. Dragons are fucking awesome.

Ice Bear (06:58)
That's fair. You can bring him back now. It's fine now.

I just noticed that part of the scales are like little hops.

Grizz (07:10)
Now that's a little attention to detail flying monkeys.

Ice Bear (07:14)
I had also never heard the phrase small IPA before. That was a new one for me.

I assume because of the 4%, not because of the very robust flavor. You know, I'm locking it in already. This is an A. This is a very good beer.

Grizz (07:32)
Damn,

damn. I...

before jumping in the gun at least here. This one is definitely a territory as well. I am very, very much enjoying like this one. So this one's very, very good that I kind of don't want to drink it like I don't want to drink it too fast. I'm just take I'm just taking small sips so can enjoy the ride.

Ice Bear (07:52)
Okay.

I'm a greedy little hog because I've been thinking about this all day, counting things and inventorying things.

Grizz (08:05)
Yeah, I've been. Yeah,

because this one's been sitting in the old gris fridge for like a couple of weeks now, and so I've been I've been I've been eyeing it every single time I open that door. It's just there. And I'm like. It's been hard.

Ice Bear (08:30)
Now,

the real question is, when you take that sip, are you immediately just getting sports? Does it taste like a free throw? ⁓ A nice sack? Perhaps ⁓ a check into the boards?

⁓

Grizz (08:49)
It tastes more like, ⁓

picture this. are back in, you're back in school, right? And you're not a bad lad, right? You are good. You follow the rules, but sometimes you live life a little on the edge. And you got yourself your first girlfriend.

And there's a sports ball game going on that you are both watching because you know, you're involved. You're involved with the school and the culture. It's cool.

Ice Bear (09:26)
Following you, following you.

Grizz (09:28)
Imagine walking back to watch the game. Right. You see a little you see a little.

You see a little entryway to wonder to a wonderland in this dark in this dark place that's under the bleachers.

this tastes like the possibilities. However you take that, that's how you take that.

Ice Bear (09:59)
can't believe that was the most elaborate setup to say that people are out there drinking B's and bumping P's

Grizz (10:04)
you

you

Ice Bear (10:13)
Well, I read a few old schnapps.

Alright, we're off to a good start. Very good. I mean, what else are you gonna do under the bleachers? Just hang out? No, you're gonna drink bees and muppies.

Grizz (10:28)
fuck, didn't...

Drinking bees and bumping peas is probably to trademark Tiger trademark.

Ice Bear (10:44)
One of... Just have it. Have it with a ⁓ bear statue kind of like posed like Aristotle and it can be attributed to Aristotle.

Grizz (10:57)
bear styles. That's good.

Ice Bear (11:01)
Yay, and Baristotle said unto the denizens, drink and bees, and double bees.

Grizz (11:06)
And Mom and me.

Ice Bear (11:11)
Truly a place of culture. Truly a place of culture this is.

Grizz (11:16)
That's what I would say.

Ice Bear (11:19)
Look, there's two types of people that listen to this. There are adoring fans in Pakistan. then, ⁓ no, three types of people. There's ⁓ lady boys. And then finally, there are people that know about Branson, Missouri. And I think every single one of them would love Barastotel across the board. meets all three's go-to. ⁓

Grizz (11:40)
which is the coolest thing.

and these motherfuckers don't miss.

Ice Bear (11:58)
And here we are, here we are doing this. This is the second year of 2B2B. 2B2B2Y, year two, season two.

Grizz (12:04)
That is the craziest thing.

K.

Do remember Y2K? ⁓

Ice Bear (12:14)
I remember Y2K. I remember Y2K like it was 26 years ago. Yes.

Grizz (12:24)
Did your family or like, was there like hysteria around her, like with your family or friends or schools and stuff?

Ice Bear (12:32)
I do remember some people being like genuinely nervous about stuff. So that at the time I would basically every Christmas and New Year's I had like my childhood best friend. like one year we'd be at my house the next year we'd go over to her's and so I was at her house and her stepfather worked pretty high up in the federal government and so he was on kind of like watch like alert, you know, because they weren't sure if there's gonna be like cyber attacks or just like not necessarily attacks but

Grizz (12:56)
Mm-hmm.

Ice Bear (13:02)
just weird glitches with the software.

Grizz (13:04)
True. Cause cause I could totally see though, like even if it was not worried about like the whole fucking thing going off or whatever thing, but it's more of like, if there's already a hysteria around it, that somebody would use that as cover to fucking do an attack. Yeah. Yeah.

Ice Bear (13:15)
Yeah.

Exactly, yeah.

And so if memory serves the only thing that happened of any note was like the train system wound up getting a little delayed because like the computers glitched and they're like it's 1900 not like they didn't know what to do with it when it rolled over. But other than that, no, it's pretty and we were just that was when Dick Clark was still around doing his things. We just watched that. And the other thing I remember is there was a veggie plate.

Grizz (13:40)
Yeah.

Ice Bear (13:51)
and both of us were just like eating broccoli with no dip. And one of the parents came in. Yeah, and they made that face. They're like, what are you two doing? Eating veggies. And then we went playing Harvest Moon 64 or something.

Grizz (14:07)
Damn, they obviously didn't go into the bleachers. Not even together, not even separately is what I mean. Even. ⁓

Ice Bear (14:09)
No, no, no.

Nope,

nope, was nowhere near the bleachers. The bleachers were not even in view. We were busy buying Team Rocket Pokemon card packs and yeah.

Grizz (14:24)
through

the Team Rocket Pokemon cards or father that era was fucking dobesh. dude. Yeah. Dark tribes was fucking awesome. You know what? I can't believe I never like made that correlation of like the shadow Pokemon and Pokemon go and then like the team rocket era. Yeah. I never like, you know,

Ice Bear (14:28)
Dark Charizard was sick.

There was nothing.

Uh-huh.

Yeah.

That was such a fun time because like for us, we'd go to the mall and there were maybe three or four different stores that would sell packs and you would just kind of hunt and you'd go to one side and be like, okay, they're like $4 a pack here and go to like KB Toys and then, shit, they're 350. And then every now and again, someone was running like a two for five sale and you felt like assaulted. Like four packs, 10 bucks. I knew I mowed that lawn for a reason.

Grizz (15:16)
Pokemon card hunting and then even for me like Yu-Gi-Oh card hunting was also the other one. Yeah.

Ice Bear (15:22)
Yu-Gi-Oh was fun. The only one I ever got into other than Pokemon fairly seriously was... believe... yeah, yeah, I was gonna say you're gonna probably guess but Magic was... the art's cool on him, man. Still to this day, it's cool.

Grizz (15:30)
Magic? Yeah.

Yeah The arts fucking dope The

only thing I don't like about like modern magic and grand i'm not like it's just like outside looking in it's like I don't know like I get this kind of cool like having collab sets and everything but like Once you're like so far away from like that world money It feels like fortnight, you know what I mean? Like how fortnight just does the skins? That's what it feels like to me. So i'm not like I don't really

Ice Bear (15:54)
Yeah.

Yes, agreed.

Grizz (16:01)
like that too much, but it is I don't know it's is it cool. Like or you can see to like franchises merge. Yeah, but I don't know it's just once it goes. It's like why I never got into Game of Thrones was just kind of like a weird thing is just I just never liked how like I'm watching more of more of

Ice Bear (16:04)
Mm-hmm.

because of the Starbucks collab?

Grizz (16:30)
That's funny. More of a...

Ice Bear (16:31)
Season

seven spoilers, sorry guys.

Grizz (16:34)
It's more of, ⁓ when I'm watching these like olden world, fricking, you know, like middle-aged castles, fucking dragon thing. they're telling each other to go fuck themselves. You know what I mean? I'm like, it, it just like, it just like zaps me to I'm like, it's just, it just takes me out of it. You know what I mean? And so I, that that's kind of how I feel about like the magic co-ops with like, know, yeah.

Ice Bear (16:49)
I see what you mean. Yeah, take you out of it a little bit.

That's reasonable. That's fair.

Fortnite is honestly impressive how many CoLabs they get though. What hasn't been involved in that? You can play as LeBron and Darth Vader.

Grizz (17:10)
Yeah, because

I think they just

Yeah. Well, right now they're

actively doing a South park collab. think. Yeah. My buddy's been sending me like things of it.

Ice Bear (17:20)
Are they really? Amazing.

So I've never played it. It's similar to Overwatch, right? Like it's just like a, like shoot them up thing.

Grizz (17:27)
Neither have I.

Kind of, like from what I've seen from like the interwebs when I look at reels and stuff, is that like there's like a building mechanic where they're like building fortresses or like levels and also like shooting each other. I don't really, it's interesting. I don't really don't know to be very honest.

Ice Bear (17:47)
Well that's kinda cool.

The only multiplayer game that I see currently where the seal and I will be like, we should probably play that. It seems fun is I think a few different versions of Call of Duty have a side mode or maybe it's a main mode now called prop hunt. Have you seen this where you're like, you'll be okay. So basically it runs you through all of the random objects in a level. a pipe, a box, wrench.

Grizz (18:10)
Mm-hmm.

Ice Bear (18:21)
Some of them are huge, like a full-blown staircase or a tub. And then some of them are real out of place. Like you'll be on like a ship in the middle of the ocean and you'll get a cactus. And so your job is as the prop is to just hide somewhere inconspicuous and you can either move kind of slowly or you can just park yourself somewhere. And every now and again, someone will get a painting and you're in a room with a ton of paintings. So it's pretty fun to watch all the people like zooming around looking for you.

Grizz (18:48)
Yeah.

Ice Bear (18:48)
So that's the the one game where I would like to try that because I think I would be I would be good at hiding in random places Underneath the bleachers, I'm gonna see me bumping peas

Grizz (19:01)
be drinking bees and you even know.

Ice Bear (19:04)
Hahaha

Grizz (19:08)
Yeah, that's a damn Call of Duty. haven't. So I played a couple of like here and there like with like my my drummer would play and stuff. So like, you know, like the whole zombies thing and all that we played and like even Black Ops there. The only the last Call of Duty I like owned and played was fucking.

Ice Bear (19:23)
Zombies are fun too.

Grizz (19:35)
Modern Warfare 2, which is probably like which I'm biased. I'm like, it's the best one. But to be fair, I had never played one fully after that one.

Ice Bear (19:48)
I couldn't even tell you. The Seal has maybe some of the newer ones, but she only plays the single player, the campaign, because she loves Ghost.

Grizz (20:01)
Hmm.

Ice Bear (20:02)
And like, they look fun. It's not like I'm opposed to them, but I just... If I have the time to sit and play a game, and it's not gonna be Persona or Pokémon, I'm obsessed with Ghost of Tsushima and now Ghost of Yote. I got that for Christmas and it is so fucking fun.

Grizz (20:20)
Yeah, I need to. Ghost of the regime was great. I haven't even like cracked into Ghost of the Otay. I need to get it.

Ice Bear (20:29)
It is everything I liked about the first and just expounded upon. It's so good. And also the lead, she's so cool. Like her story's cooler. Not that Jin's was like bad in the first one, but her story is really cool. And I'm like, yeah, that's, I would be vengeful for sure. And then there's wolves. So just like right away, I'm like, like, know how in the first one you can find like the foxes and they'll like lead you to places?

Grizz (20:58)
Yeah.

Ice Bear (20:59)
There's wolf dens in this one, and there's way more horses, so I'm like, this game is perfect.

Grizz (21:04)
Checking all the boxes.

Ice Bear (21:07)
It really, it checks all my little happy boxes. So wait, you've played the first one? So I'm curious your thoughts. I think one of the best things they've done, and I wish more games would emulate it, is you know how in a lot of open world RPGs, they'll have a cursor on the map and you're just kind of like aiming towards the cursor? Whereas in this, they've done the wind art and you like follow the wind to get places.

Grizz (21:34)
Yeah,

that is really cool. It's a nice little.

Ice Bear (21:36)
It's

such a visually appealing... It doesn't take you out of it. It feels very immersive because of that. Whoever their art director is, good fucking job. Every time I do it, I'm like, that is genius.

Grizz (21:44)
Yeah.

Ice Bear (21:54)
See the leaves rustling and shit, so good.

Grizz (21:57)
Now, yeah, I think that's one of the best because even like when other games do that or like they do like more, uh, uh, more personalized things like that, right? Like it's really cool. But I think that one, like the subtlety of it, cause it, cause even, Oh my Lord. Oh, Oh, Oh.

Ice Bear (22:17)
She's riled. She wants a beer.

Grizz (22:23)
I think she's telling us to drink this to crack it. I think she wants another crack.

Ice Bear (22:28)
I think she should well who are we to say no you let me know I got I got a finger under it I got I got a finger ready to roll now the question is did that stay cold

Grizz (22:32)
Follow me.

from touch it does feel a little cold we'll see at actual drink though that's that that's going to be the biggest are you ready for this one

Ice Bear (22:47)
⁓

wait, wait, hold on real quick. First one. What'd you give it?

Grizz (22:57)
A... Yeah, this one is ⁓ actually steady A. A minus is too low, A plus is too high. Steady A.

Ice Bear (22:57)
Light moves is an A for sure.

A is across the board. That's a good start. All right.

Grizz (23:09)
Ready?

⁓ both of those are pretty good.

Ice Bear (23:18)
Okay.

it makes.

Grizz (23:23)
my lord. ⁓ my lord, this death smell.

Pretty good.

do this.

Ice Bear (23:37)
boy. Okay. Do you want to go or do want me to introduce this bad boy while you're pouring?

Grizz (23:41)
⁓

introduce this while I'm giving this little Polaroos key

Ice Bear (23:51)
Okay, so ⁓

our dear friends at Collective Arts are joining us this evening. This here.

Grizz (23:59)
Also,

I love me collective arts because that's one of the few that I was able to find back in old freedom land, Texas.

Ice Bear (24:05)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Yeah, they're they're really good and they've done it again with a cherry limeade sour That there's just Happy little aliens a weird little Dilbert schnaz guy Wizard doughnuts smiley faces. There's nothing not to like here

Grizz (24:13)
Ooh, that sounds fucking awesome.

Ice Bear (24:27)
It smells good. It smells very good. How does it taste good?

Grizz (24:36)
Here's mine right here. Ooh, that looks like a sour.

Ice Bear (24:39)
⁓ And

it's very sour. ⁓ that is a lovely little color. Now,

Grizz (24:43)
Look at this guy right here.

What

would you call this color?

Ice Bear (24:51)
Like a soft peach.

Grizz (24:56)
Would you say it's kind of golden?

Ice Bear (24:59)
I would say it's a little bit golden, Is this K-Pop demon hunters beer?

Grizz (25:08)
I've actually never ⁓ watched it.

Ice Bear (25:13)
You know what? You know what? This is your homework. You should watch it. You need to be part of the experience. pl- It's fucking fun! It's fun! It's a- The songs are catchy as shit.

Grizz (25:20)
Is it actually good though?

Yeah, I mean, obviously, like there's so much a couple songs has popped up that like are in reels and means and stuff. Yeah, that that that thing that thing is fucking cool.

Ice Bear (25:33)
And they have Derpy Tiger. Derpy Tiger's the man.

I Derpy Tiger. Yeah, it's... It's worth throwing out in the background at least.

Grizz (25:40)
Yeah, he's cool shit, but

Yeah, I'll go, that's the one where like the girl like

deep there's the gamebop right?

Ice Bear (25:56)
Yep, I'm glad that's what you took away from it.

Grizz (25:57)
Yeah, okay.

Yeah, I saw that being used in the law.

It really is.

Ice Bear (26:12)
Alright, what is this golden one? You tease. What do you have over there for the bleachers?

Grizz (26:15)
This golden one.

even more mystery. You know why? Because it's dazzling, but it's also mysterious because it leaves you in a golden fog.

It is so underwhelming. ⁓

Ice Bear (26:37)
I was

about to say I am so whelmed right now. I hope that's really, you know what? I bet it's gonna be really good because the can is so wildly nondescript. They're like, the beer can speak for itself.

Grizz (26:51)
So here's the thing.

Here's the thing, matchless.

They made meows and I fucking love meows. So I'm hoping I'm going to love this one too. This one is a hazy, you put called golden fog is just gold with a Golden hog hazy. You perhaps is Vic secret.

Ice Bear (27:00)
You did love Meowser.

Mm-hmm.

Grizz (27:18)
The grains is pilter and flaked oats. And the descriptors for this is tropical, juicy, and citrus.

Ice Bear (27:20)
Mm-hmm.

I have it.

You like that? You like that? You

like that?

Grizz (27:39)
This is the 6.8 from old Cumwater, Washington.

Ice Bear (27:45)
Can you do it again? We sure hope so.

Grizz (27:47)
See.

Ice Bear (27:52)
So wait, you're now a seven and a six eight and I am a four and a six two. I am glad that I have something on the back end to prop up my masculinity again. Yeah, cause right now I'm feeling very like a lad that's been in the cold waters of the Puget Sound, recoiled inside himself with sad bumpin' peas shrinkage.

Grizz (28:02)
to balance it up.

feel like the man there's a couple months ago.

I'm sorry.

Ice Bear (28:28)
Our two Seattle listeners are now just violently beating their monitors.

catching strays.

Grizz (28:38)
Who just knew them J's were birds of praise

Ice Bear (28:42)
Here's the thing, I don't think they can be that mad anymore after seeing the absolute heartache that was losing in extra innings of game 7 due to a broken bat after also losing a fucking 18 inning game.

Grizz (28:54)
about two, one.

Do

trying to explain that to the tiger.

was like, yeah, or just, just how, just how that was. Cause again, like I'm not, I'm not a Dodgers guy, right? Tigers think she's not like Tigers only give a fuck about sports, but all she knows is deep, deep in the East side of Tigerland is the, the doyers, you know, so like,

Ice Bear (29:07)
What that game? Like how bad that was? Yeah. Yeah.

Indeed. Indeed.

Grizz (29:36)
So trying to tell her like, you know, like, obviously when the Dodgers won, everybody was like, everybody in her timeline was celebrating or whatever. Right. And I was like, there's some bullshit. And I'm like, not because it was because I hit the Dodger, but just the way they wanted to just the way it was. was like.

Ice Bear (29:54)
Yeah.

Grizz (29:55)
It was the whole fucking worst.

Ice Bear (29:58)
It's one of the few times where I'm ever, my purest hat gets thrown completely away and I'm like, they should probably allow fucking metal bats.

Well, they should probably consider it.

Grizz (30:12)
Because like, because

like, the fuck do you do? like that's literally like an act of God. You know what I mean? Like, is this one of those where it's like.

Ice Bear (30:20)
Yeah.

Yeah.

Grizz (30:24)
Yeah, I was, I feel like that was one of the, that, was a moment that's going to be played in like, in like throwbacks, repeats of like craziest things that happened.

Ice Bear (30:34)
for sure.

Absolutely. Yeah, for sure.

Grizz (30:39)
I remember watching it.

And it was like, I was just fucking, again, the J's aren't even my team. was just rooting. I'm just rooting for them for, for, for just bear allegiance. Right. I'm like, I ever watch that happening. I was just like, know what it felt like? It felt like back in the year when fucking, ⁓ when fucking Romo miss that hike.

Ice Bear (30:57)
Yeah, that was really rough.

⁓ damn.

Grizz (31:06)
It was, that was against the Seahawks, right? Two. Yeah. Pretty sure it was against the fuck is a playoff game. Those against Seahawks. And I'm ⁓ pretty sure it's against the Seahawks. Yeah. And like, I remember that being such a fucking huge thing. Cause back in the old days, the screen TVs were a thing. ⁓ I don't have one. We didn't have one of those. just had the older TVs, the big box TVs. Right. And in all,

Ice Bear (31:09)
That seems right, yeah.

Yeah.

I think you're right.

Good ol' Kessa-woo-brae.

Grizz (31:35)
Yeah,

in all Texas, we like grilling, right? So like, my name is a grill going. We got an extension core with a big ass box TV pulled out of the house into the backyard. Girls go in. My dad's fucking drinking beers. My dad, we're underage, but my dad's letting us fucking just, you know, swim in the swimming, swimming in them pools. So like me, my cousin, my brother, we're all drinking for the like one of the first times and like.

Ice Bear (31:38)
huh.

You

Grizz (32:04)
It's dope. We got that. got Mexican cogs. We're eating like we got ribs on the grill brisket on the grill while that's going on. We're like cooking like a salad tacos. Like while we're just grilling, we're out there all day, like pre-game before the game. Like we're basic. We're basically tailgating in our backyard. Right. It's fucking, it's a lot of amazing watching the whole game. All this stuff. It's great. Fucking it's electric where all that my dad's like,

Ice Bear (32:20)
at home. Awesome. Love it.

Grizz (32:31)
I mean, to be fair, this is a one year where it's like when they're saying this is our year, like they're back, this, this year was the closest. This is our year was. And so we're all there. Fucking again, dad's a diehard Cowboys fan. Um,

Ice Bear (32:41)
Felt like it.

Grizz (32:52)
we get there. That shit happens. I just remember my dad fucking throwing his can of beer on the floor and it's just fucking just the energy just fucking, you know, I like turn the shit off of my dad just fucking goes inside. And so then like, it's just silence. And me and my cousin and my brother are just like turning off the TV, killing the fire on the grill, bringing all the food inside, you know, to be like, it's just, and it's just quiet. It's just

Ice Bear (33:04)
Yeah... Ugh...

⁓ brutal. Absolutely

brutal.

Grizz (33:21)
It was fucking rough.

Ice Bear (33:25)
I think yours is worse because Cowboys fans, especially like your dad's age, you guys have the memories of championship pedigree.

Grizz (33:38)
Yeah. Cause I like, especially

my dad, totally understand my dad. like my dad was little Starbucks. You know what I mean? Like when I was young, Starbucks and then all the way up, like you watched the fucking the winning things, right? Like all the stuff I like with all the eight, many years fucking even like when you're like after the fact and you like, and miss Smith kind of continued when they weren't like really, but they're still doing fucking cool shit. You know? Yeah. So like my dad was there for all of that.

Ice Bear (33:51)
Yeah, the eight veneers.

Yeah.

Grizz (34:08)
I was never fucking out of it. You know what mean? Like I was just for like the laurels.

Ice Bear (34:08)
Yeah. Yeah. So,

so yeah, because you would have been really young then. I remember the Cowboys like mid 90s Super Bowls quite well, because I was I was old enough that I had started playing Peewee. Like I was like four or five, six, seven, like when the Cowboys were in that little window. And so I remember like how good Emmett was and Aikman was like

Grizz (34:28)
Yeah.

Ice Bear (34:34)
He was like the perfectly like serviceable, like just didn't fuck shit up quarterback. He was never doing anything like manning flashy or Mahomes flashy, but he's just like managing perfect.

Grizz (34:46)
It was like it was like Spurs players like Spurs players forever like they're never like amazing, but they're just great players. Yeah.

Ice Bear (34:49)
Yeah, just boring, but great. Yep.

Exactly right. So anyway, because of that, because of the fact that Cowboys fans have that history, I do think you believe you're going to win. I think, I think there's a real belief like in your core, like when the hype train gets going, you're like, yeah, this, are going to do it this year. Whereas the most comparable thing I can think of is

And we may have talked about it briefly, but I'll think from this angle is in the late nineties, early two thousands, the Vikings had a phenomenal season. made it to the NFC championship. And there's a, there's a game winning field goal right there for the taking. Gary Anderson, who had not missed a fucking field goal the whole goddamn season. Shankopotamus is it. And my dad's face was just like.

Like it was like the life had been drained from him. And the only reason I was going on the Cowboys rant is because I do think that he recovered quickly because I don't think he really believes they're gonna win. I think in his heart of hearts, he's like, we're just gonna lose forever. Kind of like Bill's fans. Like Bill's fans today, I bet when the Jags were up, they're like, ⁓ we're gonna fuck it up. Because if you lose four Super Bowls in a row, I can't even imagine. By that fourth one, I would have jumped off a bridge.

Grizz (36:15)
Yeah, that's true. Like no matter how bad you think some team like your team is and how just how like rough it is being a fan. It is crazy knowing like there are or even that there are teams that have never like just even made it. You know what mean?

Ice Bear (36:16)
I've absolutely lost my mind.

Yeah, that's because that's like, it's rough being a Bengals fan, but at least I've seen them go to the Super Bowl. They've been to three. So it's like they've they've at least gotten close. But like if you're Browns fan. If you're Jags fan, I guess rough. It's real rough. But so this is like when the Habs were in the Stanley Cup a few years back, that hurt.

Grizz (36:45)
Yeah.

Yeah, I do.

Ice Bear (37:00)
Cause I was like, I really believed it. was like, they're going to fucking do this. They're going to win. It's rough. Cause like I believed it. was like, this is the magic. You're going to do it. And then, and then those dastardly Floridians.

Grizz (37:17)
can't trust them, got a doll, Hypo Bomb, Bastards, they're basically berserkers.

Ice Bear (37:22)
Florida man is the best news. There's no better news than Florida man.

Grizz (37:33)
Love me some Florida, man.

Ice Bear (37:34)
I went

through a stretch in college where that was my main thing I would look for every morning. I like, I want the Florida Man headlines. I want to see what a man drives through Burger King and offers to pay with alligator babies. Like, yep, that seems right.

Grizz (37:46)
Yeah.

Do you remember though, there was that one thing like circulating on the thing where was like, your, your birthday in and then put Florida man and see what pops up and that's you like.

Ice Bear (37:59)
no, I wanna do this. Hold on, I'm doing it right now.

So wait, just birthday and then Florida man?

Grizz (38:09)
Yeah. So just, just put your birthday, not the year, just, your birthday, like, right. And then Florida, man.

Ice Bear (38:13)
Okay, got it.

I love this, I'm fully on board.

Grizz (38:19)
What you got for top top top thing is yours.

Ice Bear (38:25)
Alright, here we go.

no, okay. Alright, you want me to go first?

Grizz (38:32)
Are we are you doing like, are you doing just the top, the top article, top article, or the ground or like your your Google AI thing?

Ice Bear (38:36)
I'm just doing the, I'm doing the first thing that popped up. Yeah. The first.

I'm, I can do Google AI, think. Yeah, we can do that. Let's see what that does.

All right, here we go. All right, let's give, give me, did yours come up with three? Mine came up three for like AI thing for Florida man.

Grizz (39:01)
I did it so like I got I have my so minor two different. Yeah, I think one or two different thing actually no oh no it's the same thing my bad. I'm telling you thing. Yeah, so I got I'll just read mine right so like on old gris day in 2023. Resa Balooch. I just read the headline Florida man arrested after trying to cross the Atlantic and hamster wheel.

Ice Bear (39:14)
Yeah, hit me.

Yep, that seems right. That seems very correct.

Grizz (39:30)
On Grizz

Day 2023, Reza Baluchi, a 44-year-old Iranian born man from Florida, was arrested by the US Coast Guard after a three-day standoff 70 miles off the coast of Georgia. Baluchi, had been attempting to cross the Atlantic Ocean in a self-made hamster wheel-style vessel, was apprehended after threatening to blow himself up and claiming to have a bomb on board, which was later determined to be fake.

He was rescued from his makeshift hydro pod and taken to the Coast Guard base on Miami Beach, Florida, where he was processed and transferred to law enforcement authorities.

Ice Bear (40:10)
That is such a perfect encapsulation. So for those that haven't heard of Florida Man, that is the perfect story to explain it. Florida Man is just known for doing absurd things. And when you think you have a handle on how absurd it is, there's just another layer. So here, I'll read you my top three, because there's three great.

Grizz (40:31)
The one right after this one online says Florida man arrested after telling playground full of kids where babies come from. Thank you. Nine years.

Ice Bear (40:49)
Can you imagine just being a kid and some absolute meth head just pops out of nowhere and he's like, boys have a penis. Why?

Grizz (40:59)
It's

just a kindergarten cop grown up kid, the kindergarten cop kid.

Ice Bear (41:04)
huh. Absolutely correct. 2014. Florida man arrested after reportedly opening a bag of cocaine with his teeth and eating the contents in front of police officers during a traffic stop.

2020. wearing Easter bunny costume was arrested after an attempting hit-and-run ⁓ motorcycle crash in Seminole County. He was found in the backseat of a car attempting to flee the scene hours later. ⁓ Jesus. And the third one. Florida man Steve Shann set to appear in court charged with human smuggling scheme resulting in four people including an infant freezing to death while attempting to cross the Canadian-U.S. ⁓ Minnesota into Manitoba.

Like it's just, Florida man is wild. So wild.

They range from evil and nefarious to just goofy to sad. It's like all, it's the full spectrum of humanity with Florida Man. But it's always chaos.

Grizz (42:16)
Yeah, it's, it's, it's pretty amazing. Like, well, okay. So like the actual pragmatic, like, like the, the not fun thing is that. Right. I've heard what I've been told. I don't know if it's actually, I've never, I've never fact checked this, but this is always one of the things I heard after the Florida man thing is that typically there are, there are delay times between cases or whatever.

Ice Bear (42:23)
What do you think it is about Florida?

Grizz (42:45)
Like when arrangements happen and things like that in most States, ⁓ Florida does not have that. So as soon as anything happens, it just, it's just public knowledge and open source things. So people just like can see all the shit that happens and they can just pick the, you know what I mean? And so I've heard that. I don't know if that's true or not. Even so like, okay, giving them the grace of that, like even so like

Ice Bear (43:01)
Okay, okay.

Grizz (43:12)
How much crazy shit fucking happens to where like those things just fucking happen? Like, you know, like I know like other states are crazy. Like Texas is crazy. All this stuff's crazy. But I don't know if I got a fucking dude trying to fucking go down the fucking Waterloo Bay river and the fucking hamster wheel. Like, you know what I mean? Like I don't think that this even comes to fucking comes to be.

Ice Bear (43:28)
Yeah.

No.

I feel like it's a combination of drugs and I was gonna say nice weather, but like Hawaii doesn't have it and Hawaii's got better weather.

Grizz (43:46)
Yeah, because Florida weather kind of sucks. Like it's not terrible, but it kind of sucks. It's tropic. It's tropical weather. it's

Ice Bear (43:51)
I just mean.

I just mean in the sense of like you're never in danger of freezing to death. So like a homeless person can roam pretty freely.

and be fine.

Grizz (44:03)
Yeah, but you think

you think of like, right, so why doesn't have it? Cause like Hawaii culture and why is different for sure. Right. Cause I culture in Hawaii. Yeah. So like, and outside of like Island natives, there's not that much people. mean, even, you know, there's a lot of poverty in Hawaii too, but I'd imagine it's definitely different, right? Like it's basically

Ice Bear (44:14)
Yes.

Grizz (44:31)
Imagine like drugies and hippies like island like beach hippies and fucking drugies are all like.

Ice Bear (44:38)
Yeah.

Grizz (44:43)
What would be a Hawaii drug?

Ice Bear (44:46)
It's just weed, Yeah, pretty much. At least it was when I was there. Like, I'm sure there's people doing harder stuff, but it's like...

Grizz (44:48)
Is it just weed? I don't know.

Yeah.

Yeah. But the thing is the opioid epidemic hit after you left, right? So like, yeah, so I'm imagining, I think I hear Hawaii and I think like, especially with the cost of living shit there and like all that stuff, like I'm imagining the opioid epidemic hit Hawaii fucking hard. I'm just guessing to be very honest, but like it, it, feels.

Ice Bear (45:02)
Yes, that's true.

Well, we know we have some

listeners. So for those that are still there, please let us know. We're curious.

Grizz (45:25)
Yeah, it just, it just seems like the perfect, it just seems like the perfect, like setting for it. Right. Cause you have one like beach paradise and everything like that. But you know, you want to get familiar with it. It loses a deal for some people. Do you have unemployment and you have like not, uh, cost of living is high as shit. And then, and then what? Like, cause

Ice Bear (45:51)
Yeah.

Grizz (45:53)
What can you do? Like what work is there in Hawaii outside of like

Ice Bear (45:58)
It's primarily tourism.

Grizz (46:00)
I was saying outside of hospitality, right? Like

what work do you have?

Ice Bear (46:05)
It's primary. If I had to put a number on it, I bet like Oahu is probably like 70 % tourism. It's hotels, it's restaurants, and then it's the stuff that is related to that banking, restaurants, liquor.

Grizz (46:12)
and reside.

Yeah. Yeah. And so you got a whole

ass island of people, like only a certain amount are going to be able to do that. like, I'd imagine the fucking like opioids went through pretty hard.

Ice Bear (46:34)
That would be interesting to look into. Because yeah, I can see it. I can see

Grizz (46:40)
It just makes it because I feel like, you know, like avalachia and stuff like when you have like the cold mining towns, like there's no prosperity in anymore. And so the fucking like, you know, I get pills and all the other shits just ramp it.

Ice Bear (46:45)
Yeah. Yeah.

man. Dude, that makes me so sad. Like all the lagers and coal miners that are just like in pain and got Pfizer'd into drug addiction like,

Grizz (47:08)
Yeah. Or just even had

that like, like how like, like, I remember there's like a whole epidemic of like soccer moms that became heroin addicts and shit. I guess, you know, they had an injury so they went like some type of like, you know, like opioid painkiller.

Ice Bear (47:18)
Mm.

Yeah. Dude, I'm

so scared of painkillers.

Grizz (47:29)
I've had it. I remember like after a surgery, I I had it like once, but I remember taking it once and I was like, ⁓ this I'll take the pain. Like it's just.

Ice Bear (47:37)
So, okay.

Grizz (47:41)
It's one of those where like, really best chat. had a friend that like just smoked weed and then like had did cocaine for the first time. And he was like, he'd after the first time he never did it again. Cause was like, I can see why people get addicted to this. You feel too good. I can't do it. Like I've, you feel too good. I know myself, I'm not going to do it. So like good as to him, but like, well, it was, it was like that. It was like that. Like, so I got to check the most like

Ice Bear (47:56)
Yeah, yeah, no. No.

Yeah, good for recognizing it for sure.

Grizz (48:10)
Again, that's how we paint colors. had a one time I was like, yeah, I'm good. And so ever since then, and I was young when that happened. So ever since then, I'm like, yeah, I take some of my propan. Tylenol. I'm good. I'm not doing it.

Ice Bear (48:18)
Yeah.

Mm-hmm.

Yeah. Well, I think I told you what I... the second, third, I don't know. One of the times I broke my toe, like, when I had to go to the ER, because, the bone was sticking out. I was like, I don't want it. I was like, I know I'm gonna be a fiend. Don't give it to me. No, thank you.

Grizz (48:44)
think the strongest painkiller I've had after like that was like a tramit.

Ice Bear (48:49)
I remember one of my co-workers at a holiday and they offered me a Vicodin once and I was like, no! No, I have a headache. I don't need a fucking Vicodin. Jesus Christ.

It's too much.

Grizz (49:06)
Oh your head itches? Here's a fucking gun. Holy shit. God damn.

Ice Bear (49:09)
It's craziness.

Yeah, but it's wild to me that some people are just, they need that. Like, they're like, ah, you know, like I stubbed my toe, I need Percocets. This is not good, But I see how it happens. I see how it happens.

Grizz (49:32)
Absolutely fucking insane.

Ice Bear (49:40)
How is numero dos feeling over there?

Grizz (49:49)
Golden fog. Okay. To be fair, maybe I just have a fucking, maybe I just have a unsophisticated palette, but I got fucking no tropical nuts to be very honest.

Ice Bear (50:01)
I feel like you have a very sophisticated palette, so that seems incorrect.

Grizz (50:06)
It was mildly citrusy on the back end.

But it was very juicy and like for being as hazy as it was, it was very bright.

Ice Bear (50:19)
Thanks.

Grizz (50:23)
I would have like probably really loved this beer if I didn't have the sports IPA before it.

Ice Bear (50:28)
Mmm, set the bar too high.

Grizz (50:30)
Yeah, I think that this one's a B just to be B minus two low B is to be

Ice Bear (50:39)
⁓ our dear friend Alien Dilbert here is a C.

Grizz (50:47)
Whoa, really that bad? Like why?

Ice Bear (50:50)
It's not bad. It's not bad. It's a beer. So that's the C. It's a beer that exists. ⁓ And here's the thing. Thank you. It's a little too tart. Like it's tart with no redeeming second notes. It's like sour and tart for the sake of being sour and tart. There's the smallest little hint of cherry. I get no limeade out of it whatsoever.

Grizz (51:00)
What?

Ice Bear (51:19)
And this also might be the victim of light moves being fucking fantastic. started real high and it just had, it was either going to be an S tier and nowhere to go but down. So it might be a victim of that, yeah, I'm giving it a C.

Grizz (51:36)
Yeah, because a cherry limeade sour sounds fucking amazing.

Ice Bear (51:40)
It

should be good. It has no business being as boring as it is. And it smells good too. That's the bummer.

Grizz (51:51)
I don't think there's never been a sub B's flying monkeys before. Has there ever been a B flying monkeys? Flying monkeys?

Ice Bear (51:58)
No,

I think the lowest I've ever gotten flying monkeys is an A-.

Grizz (52:02)
Yeah.

Ice Bear (52:04)
No, they just don't miss man. That, that like if that happens like you know like probably the average person is going to be like this is fucking piss water. If I give something from Flying Memcos less than an A-. But I don't think it'll ever happen because they just they they clearly whoever is their brewmaster.

It really feels like they care because there's always layers to it. There's always little Nuancey things that make the flavor really interesting

Grizz (52:31)
Mm-hmm.

Yeah, that's that's crazy to go from, know, that's from the tippy top fucking. All the way to see.

Ice Bear (52:49)
Yeah,

collective arts, man, they focus too much on the art sometimes. They forget about the beer.

like we're gonna make a cool ass can and then like shit we gotta make beer for it now crap. ⁓ Florida man makes cherry limeade sour disappoints.

Grizz (53:10)
You know, I actually, I just realized that I'm drunk and I thought your collective watch was a flying monkey's beer. So now this makes more sense. So nevermind.

Ice Bear (53:18)
you

silly goose. Flying Monkeys was the A. That was beer number one. That was this absolute mute. That was it. Stop it.

Grizz (53:24)
No, no. OK, no. Yeah.

Yeah.

Ice Bear (53:36)
Yes.

Grizz (53:38)
All right.

Now I'm less now I'm less bummed out because I was pretty bummed out that yeah, because I thought I was like, damn, flying monkeys got a fucking see. I was like, I was like, damn, that's

Ice Bear (53:41)
Less perturbed.

No. No, no, no.

Grizz (53:51)
That's like the,

you know what mean? That's like.

Ice Bear (53:54)
No, that's

when you start to buy stocks, short stocks.

Grizz (54:01)
It's like, it's like,

call me missing a free throw.

Ice Bear (54:06)
I

Dude, enough time has passed. Kobe's overrated.

Grizz (54:14)
Do you think it's overrated? And I will defer to you because I'm not that huge of a basketball fan. I'm like, mildly.

Ice Bear (54:15)
Kobe? Yes, I Kobe is overrated.

I think Kobe had the greatest work ethic of any modern player by a lot.

Grizz (54:34)
That's fair.

Cause I know you're very much more of the Lebron train and like as annoying as a ride, I the one is great as just like tacitly as like a

an enjoyer of like high pressure games. never like, anytime I watched a brown play and stuff and I was like, always like, that's so wrong. But like there's, I just remember like how electrifying some of like the Kobe games were. And I was like, and so like, I guess for me, that's why go Kobe's better because you know what I mean? Like in this, I got a

Ice Bear (55:03)
Dude.

you

Here's the thing. Kobe has a handful of, like if you're doing like clips, like moments, like highlights.

man in the top 10, he's probably got three. And my favorite thing Kobe ever did, it's not even a fucking basketball play. I don't know if you've ever seen it's the clip where he's defending an inbounds and the guy like pops the ball like, like, and he's just fucking stares at them. That is one of the coldest things I've ever seen a person do. And also like how psychopathic do you have to be to override your flinch system and not even defend that like.

Grizz (55:35)
yeah, yeah, and he's just.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Ice Bear (55:51)
My god. So for that, fantastic. Absolutely outstanding. But just from an overall... Yeah, I don't know. I've had him in the top 20, but I don't think he's top 10 and I hear a lot of people say he's like the greatest player ever. So yes, I think he's overrated.

Grizz (56:07)
Yeah, I don't know if he's the greatest player ever, like I, yeah, cause as, as, ⁓ as a normie, right? Like as a normie thing.

Like, I don't, and here's the thing. Cause like, don't, I never like, I was too young to like really appreciate Jordan and all the other kinds of stuff, but I just know like clips, right. And so like, and so Jordan outside of like the nostalgia of like the nineties video games, like, you know what I mean? Like, should I remember being a kid and I had a Chicago bulls, fuck it and jacket. You know what I mean? Like I didn't buy that shit. know, like, yeah. And so.

Ice Bear (56:31)
Yeah. Yeah.

Mm-hmm.

Yep. Yep. Yep.

Grizz (56:52)
And then you but you know you think like the Sega Genesis like fucking Super Nintendo like Jordan games like you know like It's right. I remember like that and then I see like highlight reels of so my god damn, you know

Ice Bear (56:58)
Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Grizz (57:08)
the only player that got close to like that, as far as just like watching clips of him and like even watching some games for like Kobe, I never was like a huge LeBron fan. The brothers did some cool shit though. And then I know like we went into this and my gate wall. I can understand that. LeBron's kind of a wiener, but like he's kind of goofy, but like he's undoubtedly great. And so like kind of going raw numbers. I'm like, okay, I guess I get it.

Ice Bear (57:28)
Mm.

Grizz (57:38)
When I, but I want to think of like the wow factor, like the pizzazz. got, don't, I don't know in that era of basketball, like who was above Kobe.

Ice Bear (57:48)
for just wow factor?

Grizz (57:50)
Or just like, yeah, like, like just like having that kind of like it thing. You know what I mean? Like, or you could be a fucking like icon.

Ice Bear (57:57)
Okay,

if you're talking about purely like intangible, just like, grow.

Grizz (58:03)
Just like, like all of it,

like holistically, right? Like just like, you know, yeah.

Ice Bear (58:06)
Yeah,

okay. So for me in that era, ⁓ Vince, Vince Carter has some of the most absurd in and out of game dunks ever. ⁓ To this day, he has the best in game dunk I've ever seen in the Olympics. He fucking jumped over a dude jumped over like a seven foot tall dude, like cleared him.

Grizz (58:28)
So Vince Carter.

Yeah. And another one that I have up there that I don't think is as good as Kobe. I get new ones, but like somebody who I fucking like love and will always love like, like fucking, uh, and anytime you hear like, is he like hype bed? It's sort of like, yeah. Like it was like, like Allen Iverson, you know, to be like, see like, yeah, like, oh, like he definitely up there.

Ice Bear (58:48)
100%. I was going to say, I'm glad you said it because

AIs, that was going to be the next thing out of my mouth. And part of that is because of where I grew up in like Philly was like, because Wizards games were never on and like when they were the bullets, they were never really on. But AI, AI was on all the time. And some of his crossovers were just and just like Philly fans are so vicious. They're just like pointing and laughing and you know that guy like his. Oh my God. AI was great.

Grizz (59:16)
Yeah. Cause

to me like, again, like Kobe, as much as like I hated the Lakers, like Kobe fucking Allen Iverson, like is yeah. Cause again, like I don't deny that LeBron's great, but I never got that kind of feeling. And maybe I was just like too detached from basketball at the point in time when he was like finally up. Cause when I saw like, when I was like really watching, was still, know, he was like making rounds and making the waves, but he wasn't like

Ice Bear (59:40)
Yeah.

Grizz (59:45)
established as like the fucking guy. Yeah. You know, until like, but yeah, but I just think of just the feeling of seeing some Kobe fucking things and seeing us on like, you know, Allen Iverson and those dudes. I say to you.

Ice Bear (59:47)
Yeah, yeah.

You

Here's the thing man, and here's here's why I really like the Kobe stuff gets me is His first three rings are 80 % check

Grizz (1:00:11)
Mmm.

Ice Bear (1:00:12)
It, you know what, hire 90 % Shaq. If Shaq's not on that, if Shaq's not on those teams, they don't make the playoffs.

Grizz (1:00:16)
Really?

Ice Bear (1:00:21)
his second two rings are 50 % power.

and 10 % were on our test.

Like I'm not saying Kobe's not the bus driver on that second two. Like he was in charge. They were undoubtedly his teams, but you take, you take pow off those teams. They're not winning that shit. And of course, every great player has had great teammates, but like Kobe relied more heavily on his great teammates than anyone I can think of.

Grizz (1:00:46)
Interesting.

More so than like 90s Jordan Bull, like Jordan or 90s Bulls. Cause like 90s Bulls was fucking like wild too.

Ice Bear (1:01:01)
Yes.

Here's the thing. Because people like love to go ape shit over Scotty. ⁓ Scotty's great. I like him a lot.

I think if you take Scotty off those teams, Jordan still wins five rings. Especially once Rodman's on the team. Because Rodman is like the most, that's the most underrated player I can think of, is Dennis Rodman.

Grizz (1:01:31)
Yeah, I he even got fucking-

he got fucking Kim Jong Un on his side.

Ice Bear (1:01:37)
If anyone that can marry themselves in carbon-electra, fucking good job. That's an interesting human being.

Grizz (1:01:44)
I mean, you ⁓

got one of the last long-leg dictatorships like liking your ass.

Ice Bear (1:01:53)
Yeah,

it's he's a wild man. Absolute wild man. dude, I don't know. There's just there's too many. We're like very spoiled for insanely great athletes in our lifetimes because there's a handful of people right now that are like legitimately incredible. Joker's insane. Janice is amazing. Luke is great. Like there's.

Kai has been, you know what Kai is like for highlights, Uncle Drew, our boy, he has the most pizzazz of it. Like I can watch him crossing that overall.

Grizz (1:02:27)
Yeah, I'm saying

I would say Kyrie

is one of my favorite players of all time.

Ice Bear (1:02:40)
That and his three, the year they beat the ⁓ Warriors. That three was like as close as it gets.

Grizz (1:03:00)
That is one was funny as like as much as I like like ⁓

And I had to like the the Kobe stuff. I'll be I'm the one who's the most shit about Kobe because my cousin's favorite player is Kobe. It's not like you're weighing having that.

Ice Bear (1:03:27)
Yes, you've told me the lore of the old Grizz fam Lakers fandom.

my, that's a chocolate milkshake if I've ever seen one.

Grizz (1:03:48)
That is a beautiful fucking color. This smells fucking amazing. Holy shit.

Ice Bear (1:03:57)
That sort of... ⁓ no. This is... this is troublesome.

This is what the kids call troublesome.

Grizz (1:04:04)
I

crack this and it smells like a fucking lemon tart.

Ice Bear (1:04:10)
All right, tell me about yours. I think I went first last time.

Grizz (1:04:14)
This right here.

Ice Bear (1:04:18)
that's pretty. That's very light. Light and bright. I like the can.

Grizz (1:04:26)
this right here. Oh, that's a lot. That's a lot of words. That's a lot of words right here.

Ice Bear (1:04:32)
Yeah, I'm scared. have many words on if I'm to get through it.

Grizz (1:04:39)
rooted in craft, inspired by culture.

Ice Bear (1:04:40)
⁓

Grizz (1:04:44)
Lucky Envelope Brewing was founded in Seattle, Washington by the longtime friends Ray Kwan and Barry Chan. The names the names comes from the Chinese tradition of lucky red envelopes that are gifted on special occasions to yield prosperity and ward off evil. Our passion for both craft beers.

and shared Chinese American heritage inspired a unique approach to brewing. We respect beer in its purest form but refuse to abide by the limits of convention, pushing the envelope with bold new concepts and innovative recipes influenced by the community, culture, and curiosity. Lucky envelope brewing. This is Buddha's hand.

Citron Epa.

Ice Bear (1:05:43)
I like this. What is that? that an eight? Is that that said?

Grizz (1:05:47)
This is

a small little 6.4, but this is Buddha's hand. Available for a limited window in late fall, zest from this uniquely shaped fruit is brewed into the seasonal West Coast Ipa. Buddha's hand citron imparts botanical notes and intense flavors reminiscent of fresh cut lemon.

and crushed lemon candies. And that's fair because again, you know those like lemon tart things are kind of like brownies, but they're like lemon. Yeah. When I cracked this beer, that's all that I smelled on this. And have you ever seen a Buddha's hand orange, like the citrus plant?

Ice Bear (1:06:26)
Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

That sounds lovely.

No, I have not. What did it... What did they look like?

Grizz (1:06:41)
Buddha's hand's pretty fucking wild.

Ice Bear (1:06:47)
Yeah, you do some research on that. And I also have a bit of a diatribe to get through, so let me tell you about this bad boy. We are looking that up. ⁓ First of all, good news. I have immensely high hopes for this because guess who's back? ⁓ Our boys at Flying Monkeys have returned.

Grizz (1:07:06)
back again.

Monkey he's back. Tell a friend.

Ice Bear (1:07:12)
This is

a true specialty beer with much thought and even more chocolate. This triple chocolate milk style is an indulgent treat ready for the beer geeks euphoric detour from the mundane. Three kinds of chocolate, forest grown, shade grown, cacao nibs, roasted whole cacao powder and chocolate malt. ⁓

Naturally luscious they give this beer chocolate flavor enderoma and it does smell great espresso notes toasty notes enderomas are part of the cacao beans roasting as well as the profile of the chocolate malt in this ruby lit burnt umber bodied beer of pure happiness for all those odd ducks who like weird beers this is the chocolate manifesto 10 chocolate

Grizz (1:08:08)
Damn.

Ice Bear (1:08:09)
Milk Stout Triple.

Grizz (1:08:11)
Damn.

Ice Bear (1:08:13)
It's, you know what it smells like? Have you ever had, ⁓ fuck, what is that place called? ⁓ have you ever had Roy Rogers?

So Roy Rogers is a chain. Maybe it's just a Maryland thing. I thought it was nationwide, but they will do milkshakes and they have kind of like a almost like a Baskin Robbins kind of ice cream thing where you can get ice cream cones or like ice cream cups, but they will also take any of those flavors and do a milkshake. And you can combine like two of them into a milkshake. So they're like actual ice cream hand spawned. They're very good. And this smells very, very similar.

Grizz (1:08:45)
interesting.

Ice Bear (1:08:55)
to their chocolate milkshake. And ⁓ yeah, it's a thick boy. It feels like I'm gonna have to chew it, which I kinda like and missed out.

Grizz (1:08:59)
there.

Ice Bear (1:09:10)
Did you find that Buddhist hand?

Grizz (1:09:10)
Yeah,

a good stout is pretty amazing. But here we go. Here is a Buddha's hand.

Ice Bear (1:09:14)
Mm-hmm.

What the fuck is this?

Grizz (1:09:20)
Yeah, so a Buddha's hand. A Buddha's hand citrus. that's...

Ice Bear (1:09:25)
⁓ I've never seen one of these.

that's interesting. Have you ever had one?

Grizz (1:09:33)
I know what I've seen them a lot and I've always kind of like been curious about it, but I was. ⁓

Ice Bear (1:09:37)
I wonder what they

taste like.

Are they lemony? Probably lemony. It's called the citrone.

Grizz (1:09:44)
They have to be, right? They look

very eliminate.

Ice Bear (1:09:49)
I wonder, I wonder like if each one of those pieces is edible or if the fingery parts are just like cut away.

Grizz (1:09:57)
I hope each one's edible, I hope they're like just like...

Or in lemon.

Ice Bear (1:10:04)
was like looking at that, do you think the white part, like the fleshy parts, the edible part, or do you think the yellowy part is?

Grizz (1:10:11)
I think what I'm worried about, like I never got one cause I have had the chance to buy them. Like I can, you can buy them over here pretty, pretty easily. I've just been worried that like, it's just basically like zest. You know what I mean? Like that's kind of what I'm, I have no idea, but like just because it's such a weird shape. like, I don't know what exactly is edible.

Ice Bear (1:10:23)
⁓ okay. Sure.

Yeah.

That's fair. That's very fair.

my God, what the hell? I just realized there's more. Now I get why they call it a manifesto.

Well, fuck, we'll give them all the credit. Flying Monkeys deserves it. Lactose Sweetness gives the manifesto a heavenly body, a milk stout of indulgence that we crave to drink. Drink life to the lees. What is the lees? What does that mean? L-E-E-S. Drink life to the lees. I've never heard that phrase. Does that mean anything to you?

Grizz (1:10:50)
Sure they do.

Ice Bear (1:11:11)
Alright, okay. Life's too short to brew beer that doesn't matter. what's it mean?

Grizz (1:11:15)
⁓ so

I typed in drink life too. And the first thing that happened was to the lease.

Ice Bear (1:11:22)
What does that mean? I've never heard this phrase before.

Grizz (1:11:24)
Neither

have I. The phrase drink life to the least means to live life to the fullest, embracing every experience, even in the very, ⁓ no fucking duh. Yeah. ⁓ shit. Okay. Yeah. It originates from, from Alfred Lord Tennyson's poem Ulysses when the speaker and aging adventure expresses his refusal to rest in his desire to continue seeking new challenges and adventures. Yeah.

Ice Bear (1:11:53)
Okay, cool. All right.

Grizz (1:11:53)
interest. All right.

cultured much?

Ice Bear (1:11:59)
We're very cultured as we drink this here chocolate manifesto. Save the earth. It's our only planet. With chocolate and beer. The chocolate manifesto is a luxurious statement of decidedly un-frivolous indulgence of bending decadent chocolate and craft beer. Brewed to be a definitive statement on chocolate and beer loved by all. This is a magic number. we got a 99 from rate beer. it's so far it deserves it. It's really good.

Grizz (1:12:26)
⁓ god damn.

Ice Bear (1:12:32)
It's quite, quite good.

That's the thing with stouts, man. Because of how tough they can be to drink, if you're have something with a really thick, chewy kind of mouth feel, there's gotta be something unique going on with the flavor, or if not unique, at least powerful, memorable. And this really does it. It's very, very chocolatey, not too sweet, because it kicks in with the coffee.

Grizz (1:13:07)
Mm-hmm.

Ice Bear (1:13:09)
So it's...fucking flying monkeys, They still are for sure not getting anything less than A-.

I'm just debating if this beats our bunny shoe wearing Godzilla.

Grizz (1:13:26)
The bunny shoe wearing Godzilla deserves to have everything.

Ice Bear (1:13:32)
This is, we talked about this last, this is another one that man, if you made a hoodie with that, if you made a hoodie with bunny shoe wearing.

Grizz (1:13:38)
That's the first thing I

thought even just at least just like a vinyl sticker at the very least.

Ice Bear (1:13:42)
I would have every one of these things. They're so good. Do you remember like before we started ⁓ sharing the 2B2Bs with the masses and we were just doing it for funsies? I had a four pack from Flying Monkeys that was just a, it was like a Valentine's Day special with like just, yeah. And there was like a cat with hearts and like a dog and like one of them was called like double ooey gooey.

Grizz (1:14:00)
the assortment or the chocolate one

Ice Bear (1:14:11)
And it reminds me of that. Like they do a really good heavy chocolate stout.

Grizz (1:14:15)
Again, I,

I always just think of like the fucking Martin house, how they would do the two can fucking all the art, like the bungook and like just all like all the, like,

Ice Bear (1:14:22)
Mm-hmm.

Yep. No,

100 % this is the Canadian version of Martin House. If they did a collab, I would lose my shit. If they did an international flying house, Martin monkeys, Martin monkeys make it happen. Make it happen and we'll buy every last one of

Grizz (1:14:45)
Martin Monkeys is perfect.

I was like, I was looking at things and I was like, how do we zest up the things we got a little dark earlier? was like, word association games are hilarious. Let's do that. And then, and then I was thinking about, you seen that thing where people do it like on, or it's like, uh, there's real, like it's like, what's going on right now where this people are like, it's going like two, two, two, two. And they have like the four things and the

Ice Bear (1:15:00)
I

I like it. We haven't done a game in a while.

bat hat cat bat dude i love those every time they come on i do them in seo it's like what are you doing

Grizz (1:15:22)
Yeah. There's, there's so fucking hilarious.

You see the one with the guy with the heavy Boston accent doing it. She's like, yeah, yeah, bad. Yeah.

Ice Bear (1:15:32)
No, but I bet it's amazing.

Baka baka bat bat

Grizz (1:15:41)
Dude, it

is so fucking hilarious

Ice Bear (1:15:43)
That game is amazing. It's so good.

Grizz (1:15:47)
Like, what is that game even called?

Ice Bear (1:15:51)
I don't know, rhythm, tick-tock rhythm game? I don't know.

Grizz (1:15:55)
Like, it's so fucking good.

Ice Bear (1:15:58)
Hold on,

let's crowdsource. ⁓ wife. Do you know the name of the game that we see on TikTok where it's like the rhythm game where they're like, it's words that rhyme?

Grizz (1:16:18)
Hoop-a-bee-bop, hoop-a-bee-bop.

Ice Bear (1:16:19)
T-T-T-T- ⁓

Yep, that's the name of the game. ⁓ That's pretty good. That's what it sounds like.

You're not racist, you're brown.

⁓ that... Did you hear that? She was like, ask you, he's super racist.

Grizz (1:16:42)
There's plenty of brown races. I can show you a lot of my family.

Well.

You know what?

But like in the fun way though, you know what I mean? Like not in the way where you're like grandma, you need to shut the fuck up. It's more of just like, you know what? That's an insightful, that is a very insight. I'll get that. we'll get that wet back.

Ice Bear (1:16:57)
He knows. He should know. Us Browns are very racist.

yeah!

I'm not saying it! you tricked me! you almost said it! you almost got me permacancer! he said something about a back that was not dry

I know what my race is doing. ⁓ I love that you're not a racist. Good job. a racist.

Grizz (1:17:37)
You know what's funny is that I learned that some

Pacific Northwest people call themselves Mossbacks. And I'm like, damn, I went from being a wetback to a mossback. Yeah.

Ice Bear (1:17:45)
⁓ hi! ⁓

Moss?

Like the stuff that grows on the side of rocks. Okay. Damn. People are obsessed with your back, man. Jesus. All right. All right, I'm down. Let's do one of these things. Let's do one of these here happy games.

Grizz (1:17:56)
Yeah, that comes with a moss back.

No, that's good.

Yeah.

⁓ We're just gonna do this here already originally I was looking for the video, but you know what we're just gonna do it Are you ready for this?

Ice Bear (1:18:26)
Alright.

Okay, all right, I'm ready.

I'm ready. I'm ready. Let's go. Let's go. go. Let's go. Let's go. no. wait. What one is this? Is this word association or is this the...

Grizz (1:18:41)
Now you do- now we're doing the game, you ready?

Ice Bear (1:18:43)
Fuck, let's go, let's go, let's go,

Grizz (1:18:47)
Can you see it? you see it? Can you see it well? All right, ready?

Ice Bear (1:18:50)
I can see it. can see it.

Yep, let's do it.

Pear, pear, pear, pear, pear, pear, pear.

Pear, pear, pear, pear, chair, pear, chair, pear. fuck, this is scary now. Pear, pear, chair, pear, pear, pear- fuck, already- God damn it. Damn it! Pear, chair, pear, pear- What is that, hair? ⁓ no, this is bad. Pear. Well, I failed miserably. I failed really bad. I got through round one. I got through the pears. That was brutal. Alright, you go.

Grizz (1:19:20)
Hair. ⁓

Ha

Ice Bear (1:19:35)
You go, don't leave, you're just gonna leave it with just me? You're just gonna, that's it, it's just me fucking it up.

Grizz (1:19:41)
I don't even know what the fuck you call me in the... Oh shit. Is this the same one? Oh shit. Chair, pear, hare, bear, chair, oh fuck, this is hard. This is actually kind of hard. Chair, chair, bear, bear, man.

Ice Bear (1:19:49)
All right, let's see you.

⁓ no! ⁓

Grizz (1:20:00)
Bear pair chair hair bear pair pair hair. fuck. Yeah, Bear hair chair pair bear hair chip hair chair

Chair, bear, hair, bear, pear, chair, hair, bear, dude. I fucking locked, locked, locked in on that. Locked in.

Ice Bear (1:20:15)
You did much better than I did.

You did much better

than I did. That was very good.

That's a good game! Whoever came up with that, like it's such a catchy little-

Yeah.

God, it can be riding that high for days.

Grizz (1:20:43)
That was really fucking good.

Ice Bear (1:20:48)
⁓ Also, when you have a buzz, much harder. Like I'm not good at it normally, but that was brutal. My brain was not processing.

Grizz (1:20:59)
That's, that's fair.

Cause it's kind of just like a slow motion, right?

Ice Bear (1:21:06)
Yes. Yes.

Grizz (1:21:09)
here we go, I fucking found it.

Ice Bear (1:21:10)
Alright, let's go.

Grizz (1:21:12)
So this one, we're gonna, this is just gonna be a good time.

We messed up on this. You know, we didn't do the greatest. We're going to watch this guy right here. This one's fine. This is a very Boston accent guy. You ready?

Ice Bear (1:21:25)
All right, let's go. yes. ⁓ okay. Yeah.

Grizz (1:21:29)
Yes, this is just a very Boston accent guy trying to the same one we just tried to do.

Ice Bear (1:21:33)
Beautiful

Why does this look like Pam?

Grizz (1:21:54)
Right? That's what I thought. I thought the same fucking thing. That's why I brought it up.

Ice Bear (1:21:58)
That's wild.

It's like if Pan gained like 20 pounds. That is wild! Like it's pretty, it's a pretty creepy doppelganger.

Grizz (1:22:09)
Right? It's a fucking Boston pan.

is a Boston Pan.

Ice Bear (1:22:20)
When we're done, I have to...

I have a real good one when we're done with this. Remind me to come back to that, please. ⁓ shit.

absolute beauty. All right.

Yes, please do. What do have? Do you have food over there? you're making a note. Good. Yes. Yeah, that's, that's, it's...

Grizz (1:22:51)
Austin

Pan.

Ice Bear (1:22:55)
Mm-hmm. Yeah, no, this... I could...

Grizz (1:23:02)
BABY

BABY BABY BABY BABY BABY

Ice Bear (1:23:09)
it's so good. ⁓ shit.

You know what we've been doing a lot of? I know I've told you about this before, but the ceiling, I like to to wind down by sharing our TikToks. We like we watch all the TikToks that we send each other throughout the day together. And one of the things I've started, I don't know how I stumbled across it, but there's like this British dude does these random general knowledge quizzes. And it's just it's just fun. feels like a little mini 30 second dopamine jeopardy hit.

Grizz (1:23:44)
Nice.

Ice Bear (1:23:44)
So

we play those every night now. They're quite good.

Grizz (1:23:52)
Yeah, me and Tiger do the same thing, but we definitely don't have Jeopardy quizzes.

Ice Bear (1:23:59)
This is a recent edition. It's just because they tend to be like five questions. And there's generally like four of them are like, I'm feeling pretty smart. And then one of them is like, you're a fucking dumbass. You're the dumbest person that's ever lived. I'm like, okay, good. Humble me. Thank you for that. I appreciate that British man. Very good.

I like a game that gives you highs and lows.

Grizz (1:24:26)
What's funny about the whole British man thing it just reminds me of It's just the the There's a meme and it's like one of my favorite memes of all time And it's like, know, like Wojak right that Wojak meme just the little like nondescript White character that's like sad about shit or like just whatever. It's just a regular looking guy. He just

Ice Bear (1:24:47)
like the guy with the hat and Bojack Horseman?

Grizz (1:24:49)
I mean, it's it's it's just Wojak. It's just like a meme template, right? Like, ⁓ yeah, just Wojak. It's just a meme.

Ice Bear (1:24:54)
⁓ a Wojak. Sorry, I thought you said Bojack. Yeah, no, I know Wojak,

yes. Yes, I'm very aware of that, yes.

Grizz (1:25:01)
Right.

And so it's just two right until it's like

It's like me talking about the US and it's just like government sucks. Fucking look at all this conspiracy theory. It's just like, all the criticisms. And it's like me anytime I hear a fucking dirty tea breath, whatever, say anything bad. And it's just like he's just in a revolutionary war uniform. Just the flags everywhere and eagles. And it's like, shut the fuck up.

Ice Bear (1:25:25)
haha

Dude, that is so funny, the things that trigger patriotism, because it's very real. Because I will shit on the stars and stripes all the time, but, bro, if a Polish person says something, no, no, no, not on my watch.

Grizz (1:25:43)
Anytime I hear any like you're

I any anytime I hear like

because like I'll all this shit on and like all day and night. But as soon as I hear just a fucking. ⁓ hey, many here like is anything like that? Like this? Hello, God. Now I'm just fucking like I'm just like, what you say? What you say? This color? These colors don't run, bro. These colors don't run.

Ice Bear (1:26:13)
Dude, you know the other thing that gets it?

You know the other thing that triggers some insane random patriotism? That I wish I could undo it, because it feels absurd sometimes? Is the Olympics. I just find myself getting aggressively angry at a snowshooter from Norway. like, who the fuck are you? Get out of here!

Grizz (1:26:34)
I'm off.

I'm all for, I'm all for, I'm all for

bro. I'm like, I'm like fucking, you ever see the video of fucking meth out Hitler, like looking at the Africans beat the fucking Germans, the Olympics. That's me when you, the U S lose to some people like you watch videos, like you see the clips of fucking meth out Hitler, like, like when the fucking Africans are meeting the Germans in the fucking Florida yard dash or whatever shit.

Ice Bear (1:27:02)
Uh-oh.

Grizz (1:27:10)
That, same level of crash out as me when like the U S isn't winning on some shit I don't care about like during the Olympics.

Ice Bear (1:27:19)
And we're just a couple weeks out, I'm pretty sure, from the Winter Olympics. So that'll be interesting. I'm very, so the one thing that I have noticed since I immigrated here is I am also very actively pro-Canada. So there's a few times where the US and Canada have been like, and I freeze, I'm like, this feels wrong. It feels like mom and dad fighting.

Like it feels terrible.

Grizz (1:27:46)
anytime that happens I'm always like sorry I spare I'm like you goddamn maple leaf frogs get out of here

Ice Bear (1:27:53)
Yeah, that's, that's,

I get it. That's totally fair. That's totally, I understand. But for me, like, I do, it's not to the same level as American teams, but like, when Canada is playing like, China or Russia or something, I get, I get, I get pretty fucking hyped about that too. But there's nothing like, yeah.

Grizz (1:28:10)
That's fair.

You know, you know, that's fair. You

know what, you know what, like my, my like hatred for Canada left as soon as it's so funny. Cause I just hate that. I hated to smile, but like when like, also hated is just as hated his voice, but like when Trudeau was there, my hatred for Canada was way higher. Cause I would just put it to like anything Canada was just like that one voice.

Ice Bear (1:28:38)
That's... You just pictured

him. That's fair.

Grizz (1:28:41)
And I just think, but just

not even just the, just the talk, you know what I mean? Like there's just that voice. It was like a fucking like a, like a Swabby frog, Mr. Rogers. I don't know how to put it. Like, I don't know. Like, I don't know what it was, but like it should just fucking annoyed the fuck out of me. Like

Ice Bear (1:28:45)
and

Not the frog, Mr. Rogers. That's wild. I love it.

Grizz (1:29:10)
I

don't know what it is, but he's just annoyed the shit out of me.

Ice Bear (1:29:14)
So is, is carny more tolerable to you?

He's much more of like a banker to me.

Grizz (1:29:27)
Yeah. He so, okay. I don't like him for different reasons, but I can hear him talking not to be and not be like, you're like,

Ice Bear (1:29:36)
So it's not the person, it's the policies.

Grizz (1:29:41)
Yeah, it's just like, you know, when you have like fucking like Lex Luthor fucking type, you know what mean? Like it gives you like the Lex Luthor as opposed to like fucking the true thing was more like, ⁓ fuck it. Just, know, yeah. Yeah, I guess it's different. It just, you know, like.

Ice Bear (1:30:00)
Gold dust? Gold dust in the 90s?

Did,

did, holy, sorry, this is totally off topic. Did I send you the thing of Shawn Michaels, his highlight reel?

Grizz (1:30:15)
I don't think so.

Ice Bear (1:30:17)
I never, so Shawn Michaels was my favorite wrestler by like a long shot growing up. Loved, loved HBK.

Grizz (1:30:26)
My mom was fucking Stone Cold

Steve Austin, Texas rattlesnake.

Ice Bear (1:30:30)
Dude,

like the rattlesnake a lot too, but Shawn Michaels was my boy.

Grizz (1:30:35)
I saw him shopping. I

saw him shopping. AGB. He beat him.

Ice Bear (1:30:40)
Dude, that is what, there are very, very few people that if I saw, I would ask for an autograph or a selfie. Stone Cold is one of them. Like if I saw him in the wild, was like, you know what I would say, what I would actually do? I'd be like, sir, can I shake your hand? Thank you. Like just thank you. Thank you for making my childhood awesome.

Grizz (1:30:50)
fuck you, if I, if...

I would tell him, like, bro, can you wait here for two seconds? I'm going to go grab two of your IPAs and I'm going to fucking just, you just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just let me in your presence in your presence. Just let me. Cause when I saw him shopping, I was a fucking wee lad. But now, but now I'm like, just please just, just give me the fact that he's a fucking ranch cat dead now.

Ice Bear (1:31:26)
also love that he just has a bunch of cats on a random ranch somewhere.

Grizz (1:31:32)
was named Bajo Bajo. Where are you at you little bastard? Where were you at? Bajo? Like it's great. This fucking I love

Ice Bear (1:31:33)
You

And he

has like our podcast, but with wine with the Undertaker. He's like, they call that nice l- they call that legs.

Grizz (1:31:45)
See the legs.

See the legs on it do I fuck it I get what what what when I saw Home shopping at the HUB. was I was a wee lad. I was a wee it was a wee young cub Nowadays if I were to see him I'd go up to him and Just give me 30 seconds. I will run to the beer aisle So let me get some fucking that broken skull IPA and just just let me just let me hit one of them fucking

Ice Bear (1:31:56)
on that son of bitch. They call that legs.

Grizz (1:32:22)
three sixteens. Just, just let me do it. I won't take any more of your time. Does it just, that just give me a minute and a

Ice Bear (1:32:23)
You

⁓ my God, that would be a memory. That would be a core memory. ⁓

Grizz (1:32:37)
even if I didn't record it to post or share anybody I would know I would know

Ice Bear (1:32:40)
Just knowing you did it for you.

Yep, 100%, I feel that. I agree 100%.

Grizz (1:32:46)
That's like fucking going and doing like the fucking, you put your people like to the undertaker. You don't even need to run to the end and take a go like that. That would be the fucking, you know, like that's, that's the fucking thing.

Ice Bear (1:32:51)
For the Undertaker? Yeah.

That would be really cool.

Where did this, how did this, ⁓ HBK. So, if I didn't send it already, I'm gonna send it. So, in this highlight reel, apparently, Sean was like so well regarded in the roster, like with the McMahon family, that he was like actively trying to test like what would get him in trouble. And so this highlight reel was putting together like all the shenanigans that he was doing to fuck with other guys. And then...

Grizz (1:33:30)
Did

it show him protecting the fucking coyote?

Ice Bear (1:33:36)
No, you've told me about this in the spurs thing. No, no, no, this is is unhinged. This is more in line with drinking peas and bumping peas. So.

Grizz (1:33:38)
That wasn't in there? Alright, nevermind.

Alright, cuz I

was like good because heartbreak kid he got a special place in my heart

Ice Bear (1:33:51)
So, yeah, hold that.

Grizz (1:33:53)
Because

he defended a coyote.

Ice Bear (1:33:57)
So when he was in the match with, ⁓ for the youngsters out there, we'll bring it back to the Gen Zers, ⁓ Cody Rhodes, his papa or uncle, ⁓ used to be Goldust. And Goldust was a flamboyant, gold-painted man that was just a caricature of a gay person, for those that don't know. And so Shawn Michaels, in many a match with Goldust, would like smooch him.

like to distract him. And so then Goldust could sell to the crowd like, like Shawn Michaels kissed me. And he'd like, like wave like a fucking anime character, like undulating in the breeze. And then Shawn would hit him with sweet chin music. And but like, as the ref is counting, he just like cups a big handful of like Goldust junk and like shakes it around and like fingers is like he's wildly like diddling this man like molesting him. It's insane.

And then they show clips where he's doing the same thing to like Vader and ⁓ not Taker, but like a lot of like the mid card guys when he ever wrestled them like Rikishi. Yeah, that kind of thing. Like he just like he would diddle them just just to like do it just to see what it's insane. So weird.

Grizz (1:35:02)
to Rikishi.

Do you remember

when it's wild? I can never I could never see the heartbreak to do that. But I was very sheltered. But you remember the Rikishi fucking ash shakes mothering to people.

Ice Bear (1:35:20)
Yeah.

what a finisher. What an insane finisher.

Grizz (1:35:32)
I as fucking like, like as insults to fucking make people, I remember to make people like we used to call all fat people like our friends, like our fat friends when we were in school and we call them Rikishi.

Ice Bear (1:35:34)
And like the dancing.

That's a very...

Grizz (1:35:51)
And that was always the fucking Trump car into a fat, I wonder our fat friends when we were like yelling at each other, like arguing, just calling him, just calling him Rikishi. And every single time it's like a mic drop moment. You just call a fat kid Rikishi in that era.

Ice Bear (1:36:00)
Shut up, Rikishi.

Man, yeah, I can see it. I can see that sting pretty bad if you're sixth grade.

very good very good indeed well shit man I don't know how we got here but it was a fun ride fun ride

Grizz (1:36:28)
We

went from fucking the opioid epidemic from to Hawaii to fucking ass shaking as reggae shit.

Ice Bear (1:36:37)
We are elegant and sophisticated and one cannot deny that.

Grizz (1:36:47)
think we're

Ice Bear (1:36:53)
Well, you know, that's kind of a prerequisite when you're drinking bees and pumping bees.

Grizz (1:36:59)
drinking bees and bumping peas.

Ice Bear (1:37:04)
This has been a very unhinged start to 2026.

Grizz (1:37:09)
Look, we don't anything about 2026. It's just we're just fucking delectable peener guys.

Ice Bear (1:37:16)
That's a contender for episode named Delectable Peener Guys.

If nothing else, it should be one of the shorts. The- The- The Delectable Peener Guys Strike Back ⁓

Grizz (1:37:30)
Delectable Peener Guys

Ice Bear (1:37:41)
You

Grizz (1:37:42)
fuck, alright. Are you- you-

Ice Bear (1:37:46)
Here, here, here, here, here.

⁓ Flying monkeys, you got another A. Double A for flying monkeys.

Grizz (1:37:58)
Flying monkeys, these

motherfuckers don't miss.

Ice Bear (1:38:02)
They don't miss. They don't miss. have a little...

It's just really good. They do everything well.

Thanks for joining 2026.

Grizz (1:38:30)
2026.

Hell yeah.

Ice Bear (1:38:37)
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