Udo Erasmus: Finding Balance through Presence and Awareness

In this heartfelt episode, we have the pleasure of welcoming back Udo Erasmus. In our conversation, Udo shares his wisdom on presence, awareness, and how to connect with the love within ourselves for deep healing and thriving.

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So then when you say, okay, I'm sick.

Actually, that's miss, that's misspeaking.

Say, no, I'm not sick, just my body is.

Because the body is subject
to, to breakdown, right?

Because it has form.

Form is subject to breakdown.

Well, the energy that, that runs it
is not, is not subject to breakdown.

So it's always perfectly healthy.

And it's beyond death.

Welcome back to the inspired
living with autoimmunity podcast.

I'm your host, Julie Michelson.

And today we are once again, joined
by Udo Erasmus, the founder of billion

dollar supplement line Udo's choice.

Udo is the author of Fats That
Heal, Fats That Kill, which

has sold over 250, 000 copies.

As an acclaimed author and speaker, Udo
has an eight step process that takes

into consideration all of the elements
of nature and human nature, including

physical health, mental health, presence
and awareness, life energy, and being

in harmony with nature and humanity.

Today's conversation focuses on presence,
awareness, and inspiration, and how

we can each connect with the love
within ourselves to heal and thrive.

Udo, welcome back to the podcast.

I'm glad to be on.

I am so glad to have the
opportunity to visit with you again.

Um, our, our last conversation,
as I just said, before I

hit record, I learned a lot.

So I know listeners got a ton of value.

Um, for those of you listening that missed
Udo's last episode, it was episode 137.

So I really, really
encourage you to learn about.

Healthy fats and, and why we need them
and how we can get them and what we

shouldn't be doing with them, um, in
episode 137, but we are here today for

you to share your wisdom with us about,
um, You know, what is inspiration and how

do you get to the nature of human nature?

That's a really big question.

But for anyone who missed 137,
you know, who is Udo Erasmus?

Why am I talking to you?

Who is Udo Erasmus?

Well, I'm still trying to find out.

I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a self
discovery work in progress.

Aren't we all?

I love that.

Of course.

Indeed.

So, uh, I guess where it started
for me, I, I was a, I was born in

Poland when it was part of Germany
during the second world war.

I'm 82, so I was born in 1942.

My parents were from Latvia and
Estonia, and Hitler and Stalin, my

father had a farm in Latvia, German
Swedish background, but he lived in

Latvia, and Hitler and Stalin made a
non aggression pact and decided that as

part of the non aggression pact, Latvia
would go to the Soviet Union, and part

of Poland would be given to Germany.

But there was nobody from
Latvia or Poland at the meeting.

Yeah.

So they just took it.

Yep.

And my father had a farm in Latvia.

He loved the Russian people because
they're emotionally very rich people.

He hated communism because they
took everything away from everybody.

And communism was not the communal
living that they said it was.

It was actually a state dictatorship.

And they didn't look after
their people very well.

And of course the system eventually
imploded, uh, as socialist

communist systems tend to do.

Yep.

Because if you take inspiration
away from people, inspiration

leads to self motivation.

Yes.

If you take independence away from people,
meaning dependence on what's within

you, then people kind of get depressed.

And then they just do the minimum
and they don't become innovative

and they don't take risks.

And in the Soviet Union, 20 percent of the
population was alcohol addicted to vodka.

Yeah.

Because that was their spirit, right?

Right.

That's why we call them spirits, right?

Uh huh.

That's the substitute.

When you can't find the spirit that you
are, then you think you hope you can get

it out of a bottle, which sort of kills
some brain cells or puts them to sleep.

And then you, it releases you a
little bit to be a little sillier

and stupider or even more violent.

Yeah.

Anyway, so it, so, so he left.

Latvia, he lost a farm and we lost
the community and lost the culture And

lost the house and lost the animals
and lost the fields and you know lost

furniture like literally we got out
there We lost everything on foot, right?

Uh, not not at that point.

Okay, not yet, but basically yeah, and
and i'm a little ahead of myself in the

story Ultimately, we lost everything
except the clothes we were wearing the

body we were in and the life in the body
Everything else got stripped, right?

So he ended up with a farm in Poland.

The Polish farmer who owned
the farm became his farm hand.

There was a little tension
around that, as you can imagine.

Uh

huh.

So my dad said to him, look,
we're living in crazy times.

Let's run the farm the way
the farm should best be run.

And when all of this crazy stuff
settles out, then we'll sort it out.

And they became really good friends.

Because they were actually working
together for the common good.

Right?

And it was innovative.

And it was like, yeah, it was
under really crazy circumstances.

So then when the war ended,
they helped us get out.

And we ended up on a
horse drawn hay wagon.

My mother with six children.

My father was off to war.

And uh, uh, we were on dirt
roads and horse drawn hay wagons.

There were dead horses and people
in the ditches and the communists

were chasing us in tanks and trucks.

And the allies, we like to think of
them as the good people, they were

using us as target practice, shooting
at us from planes on the road.

So my mother got off the road,
it was winter, so she went

through the snow covered fields.

But it was safer to be going through
the fields than being on the road.

Sure, but she had six kids with her
and She could only handle two kids one

on each hand They were all under six.

So she had to leave four kids behind two
of were her own kids I was one of those

kids so I got left behind and then they
tried to Take me to relatives in berlin,

but the relatives in berlin had already
fled out of berlin So I ended up in

an orphanage and eventually her sister
Found out what happened and she came and

found us and reunited us with the family
I don't remember too much other than I

never felt safe I never knew what I could
trust because every day the story changed

Sure, you know and and just if I can give
some parental advice if you have kids

don't raise them in a war zone Right?

Because Good advice.

For kids to thrive Right.

A certain amount of physical
stability is helpful.

And certainty.

Sure.

Sure.

Yeah.

And yeah, the physical
stability gives you certainty.

And then you can play and you can learn
and you don't always have to worry

about, Oh my God, is, is this safe?

Oh my God, what's going
to happen to me, you know?

And so, so we ended up in Germany
and in Germany, uh, I was six

years old when I listened to,
that's when my life mission began.

Six years old.

I listened to adults argue
about really trivial things.

And the thought occurred to me,
man, there must be a way that

people can live in harmony.

Because, you know, harmony, you know, if
you're in a war zone, you know, harmony

might just have super importance to you.

Can we be cool?

Can we get along?

Yeah, please.

Can we be safe?

And so that thought occurred to
me, but man, there must be a way

that people can live in harmony.

And this cocky little voice of a
six year old who doesn't know how

complicated everything is says, Bye.

Bye.

I'm going to find out how.

And that's been my driver all my life.

That's why I know how to talk
about inspiration, right?

And so I was always
experimenting with things.

I'm a born scientist.

Yes.

Because I was always, you
know, in crazy things.

I broke a lot of stuff, you know,
just trying to figure out how it

works and what its nature was.

And I was always getting into
stuff and I, I got, I got spanked

a few times for, for that.

Breaking things.

I was just doing an
innocent experiment, . Sure.

Trying to find out the truth.

I don't know why

there's extra parts when I
put it back together, but

Yeah, that too.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And, and it was always easier to
break it than to fix it . Sure.

Yeah.

There, there was, there was,
there was that part too.

Yes.

And uh, and then when it came to
going to uni, going to school.

I went into science because science
is about predicting and controlling.

And if you're insecure like I was, then
the more you learn about how things

work, the more you can depend on how
they're going to work because you

can predict how they're going to work
because you understand how they work.

That's what science is about.

Security in that, for sure.

Math, physics, chemistry,
uh, that was the beginning.

And then that got boring because I was
more into the world of nature, and this

was become very theoretical, and the
professors I had didn't tell us about

what the applications were, and I wasn't
smart enough to figure out I could,

well, there was no internet, so Google,
Google knows all, Google, Google was not

there knowing all at this point, right?

So I left, because I actually decided
that living things We're more interesting.

I mean, you look at this planet, you got
to be dead in your head to look around

and look at the plants and the animals
and the seasonal changes and the flowers

and the, you know, and the people, you
know, and, and the fish in the ocean and

the waves on it, you know, and you got to
look at all of this loving living stuff.

And you got to be dead in your head
to say, I'm not interested in that.

I was like, to me, it was like nature.

Oh my God.

That's so incredible.

It's all inspiring.

So then I went in, so
then I went into biology.

Biology means study of life, right?

And I wanted to know what life is.

Biology means study of life.

So I figured that's where
I would learn about life.

And I pictured we would have a beaker.

You know, a glass beaker that
was going to be half filled with

something liquid and shining.

And we would point at it
and say, Hey, there's life.

That's how I pictured it.

I even talked to my lab partner about it.

His eyes just glassed over.

He didn't get it.

You know, and what I realized,
what I realized now is you don't

learn about life in biology.

Or a lab.

Or the lab.

You learn about form and function.

So maybe we started with a
frog in one of our experiments.

The frog was alive.

By the time we were
done, the frog was dead.

We figured out that you can
put electricity on a nerve and

that'll make the muscle contract
even when the animal is dead.

But we didn't get a handle on life.

Where did the, where did the frog life go?

So I said to my lab partner, you
know, we should study ourselves.

Because we have form and function and
life all together in the same place.

And we don't have to kill
ourselves to get to know it.

Now, that was pretty, that
was pre sync, pre synced.

Sure.

You know, because I didn't know
that that, that would be a route

I would take, ultimately, to try
and figure out what is life, right?

Then I got into psychology to study soul,
because that's what psychology means.

And in psychology, we learned
about thoughts, beliefs,

emotions, not about soul.

Then I went into medicine.

I wanted to know what health is,
because we call it health care.

So they must know what health is.

So my first year, I'm, I'm
only learning about disease.

So I went to the dean and I said,
I came here to study health.

I haven't gotten to learn
anything about health.

Do we get it in later years?

Or, so what is health?

I said, what is, what is health?

He says, we don't know.

We're working on it.

And I, I can tell you that was
not an inspiring moment for me.

Uh, that was huge disappointment.

You should have seen my face.

I can imagine.

You would have seen the face
of total disappointment.

And then I, then we were told as a doctor,
you should always sound as though you

know what's going on even when you don't.

So

it was really liar school.

And that was the end.

And that was the end of my medical
career because on the farm where

I grew up, we call that lying.

Me too.

And then by that, then I realized,
you know what, I'm going to learn more

about health in biological sciences.

Because here you study normal functioning
of normal creatures in normal situations.

Then I'm going to learn in medicine
where you focus on abnormal

functioning of abnormal situations,
in abnormal situations, of abnormal

organisms, like sick people.

Right.

Right?

Or, or sick animals if you're
studying, if you're doing research

on animals, on disease, right?

So, so, and then you realize,
okay, well, I'm going to learn more

about health in biological science.

Nobody calls it health.

But you're actually studying
health, normal function.

And I got into biochemistry and genetics.

And event, and then I thought, you know,
I'm gonna, in genetics, you're in the

control room, in the nucleus where all
the genes are, and then things turn on the

genes, and you watch the genes do their,
make their proteins, and you should be

able to get a pretty good understanding.

But again, it wasn't about health.

They're always only looked at
the material life is an energy.

They never looked at the energy,
even the molecules that carry energy.

They talked about those ATP,
but they never looked at the

energy that they're carrying.

They looked at the molecules that
carry the energy, but they didn't

look at the energy they carry.

And it was like, how frustrating for you.

And what, and I didn't, but I
didn't, I wasn't clear about that.

If I'd have been clear about it.

I think I'm, I'm, I think I might
have stayed in school longer, but

I, it's like there's something
missing and I'm not getting it.

I'm not getting it.

Wherever I've looked at university,
nobody shows you God in theology.

I mean it goes on and on and on, right?

All it is is talk.

It's his talk, it's concept, it's theory,
it's, it's words, it's explanations.

They have a value.

It's not that they don't have a value,
but if you're like me coming out

of a war and you want to know what
is the truth, big T truth, right,

that you can actually depend on.

It's not, you're not going
to find it at university.

So then I left university and
I diddled with psychedelics

and I actually, I actually snitched
a, uh, ampoule of, Sandoz LSD, the

original stuff from the Swedish company
Sandoz, and I worked in a neurological

research lab and they had samples, so
I helped myself because they weren't

using it, they were just sitting
there, they were sent these samples

by Sandoz for free, and they weren't
interested in anything to do with them.

But they were neurological
research, brain function.

So Sandoz was basically sending samples to
see if they could drum up some business.

So they got, so I got a free sample
and it took like a very, very small

amount, 60 micrograms, 60 micrograms,
like a little more than half of

one little ampoule in a sugar cube.

That's how we used to, you put
it in a sugar cube and then

you suck up the sugar cube.

And I had an, I had an
experience that was.

I had asked somebody, you
know, what is LSD like?

Because in arts, I was in science,
and they, the students in arts were

experimenting with psychedelics.

So I asked him, what is LSD like?

And he just looked at me, and
very kindly, it was beautiful.

He said, if you haven't taken
it, I can't explain it to you.

And if you

have taken it, I don't
need to explain it to you.

And I was like, after I took
this, this journey, What a,

what a beautiful description.

He didn't even try to explain it,
but he, but he really laid it out.

Right.

So what happened is I'm rolling on the
floor, laughing my head off, listening

to Mozart music and laughing in time
to the Mozart music and the tears are

running down my face and it struck
me as incredibly funny that all this

studiousness that I had trying to figure
it all out in the world That what I was

looking for was within me the whole time.

And I was always looking on the
outside and I wasn't finding it.

And so for me, that
was a huge door opener.

It literally melted my war baby world.

And I realized, Oh my God, I could,
there's a thousand ways I could live.

Now I got to figure out how
do I want to live, right?

Because it doesn't tell
you how you want to live.

It just shows you the possibility.

And then, um, and then I, then I stopped
doing that because they're, eventually

they get to be pretty hard on your body.

And so I said, okay, I only get one body.

I need to look after it.

So I'm not doing any psychedelic.

experiences.

I did a few.

Yeah.

And, uh, I'm not doing any for two
years just to give my chance my body

a chance to, to basically recover.

And I wasn't like really sick, but I
could feel it was like It, it, it, it's

hard on your nervous system, I think.

Sure.

So, and so, so what, what
do I do in the meantime?

Then I started thinking, I'm, by
this time, I'm like six, 20, 26, 27.

And I'm thinking, okay, well,
who do I want to be now that I

know I can be what I want to be?

Who do I want to be?

Where's a model?

My parents were not my model.

They were very shell shocked from the wars
and all the crazy stuff they went through.

So they were not my model.

And I came to the conclusion that.

Of what, of what I knew Socrates might
have been a pretty good model, you know,

cause I, when we read his dialogues,
like there was, I liked, I loved how

we use logic to break, bring you to the
point where logic doesn't work anymore.

And then you have to go into experience.

Yes.

So that was one of them.

The other one was Jesus,

you

know, and kind of like,
you know, whatever.

There's lots of stories about what
the translations were and whether

such a guy actually ever existed.

But to me, it was like,
take it on face value.

And I had one specific question, I
want to feel what he felt that made

him be able to live like he did
talk like he did and do what he did,

you know, as, as it's in the Bible.

Right.

So I got a red letter edition because I'm,
I'm coming to the party 2000 years late.

Right.

Right.

So I got a red letter edition
because I wanted to focus on what

the master was talking about.

What was the guy that I think
might be a pretty good model.

Yeah.

So what was he actually talking about?

So you know, the red letter
edition, it's a Bible.

Everything Jesus says is in
red ink and everything else

in the Bible is in black ink.

So that was a way to focus on what,
on not the commentary of the disciples

and not the, you know, not the other
people, other with other experiences

like Paul and all those guys.

But it was like, okay, here,
here are the words of the master.

Well, the words need to be coming from
something, you know, if you're a poet, you

have to feel something to write a poem.

Sure.

If you write poems without feeling,
you're They're really boring,

and they don't touch anybody,

right?

So he, so there's, there must have been
feeling there, because his life was a

form of poetry, you could say, right?

Yes.

So I'm going through the red letter
edition, and then I would put

little things he said to the test.

Like one of the things he said, you know,
he said, what you have done to one of the

least of these, that you have done to me.

So I didn't ask a preacher
to interpret it for me.

I said, well, what does that mean to me?

Well, it sounds like to
me that I'm in everyone.

Oh, Jesus is saying I'm in everyone.

Oh, interesting.

If I'm in everyone.

That really changes how, you know,
I mean that in, in a way that

includes me in the, in the picture.

Sure, you too.

Yeah.

It's not like he's perfect and
I'm, I'm really screwed up and

I'm not in the picture unless
whatever, whatever the formula is.

Right.

No, I just wanted to understand it and
I wanted to experience what that was.

You know, then he says, Yeah.

Kingdom of heaven is within you, right?

No, that's not complicated.

Kingdom of heaven.

God lives in the kingdom of heaven.

So God must be in you too.

And, you know, Christ is at the right
hand of, you know, I don't know how you

can be on the right hand or the left hand
of infinity, but anyway, so he's there.

So Christ must be there too.

Right?

And then Holy Spirit is just an outcome.

I'll get to that in a, in a second.

Right?

And so, you know, so, and then he says,
and then he says, in the things you do

in your life, first seek the kingdom.

And then he says, everything else
will fall into place more or less.

I, I'm paraphrasing, obviously.

Right, right.

But that's what it says.

Okay.

So, well, we don't do that.

We do, we put it last, you know, we
put it last, we, we kind of like,

we do distractions and blame and
uhhuh, you know, ignoring, denying

and screwing around, you know,
until we run out of distractions.

And then we kind of put
it last, and I did too.

Right.

Because by this time I'm 28.

Right, right.

And, and, but, but here's the thing.

Even if you put it last, it still works.

But you

save yourself a lot of
pain if you put it first.

So, so I, so I was doing these
little experiments, putting what

he says to the test, and I had
some really magical experiences.

Traveling around, you know, hitchhiking,
and one, one year I just, I just

wore a robe, no underwear, no
shoes, no, no pack sack, no money.

And I hitchhiked around the
province that I, that I lived in.

And people picked you up in a

It was like every town I went
to, it seemed like there was

somebody there waiting for me.

Mm hmm.

Wow.

And then I would, I would help
them do what they did, and

that got me room and board.

So I didn't need any money.

Yeah.

Right?

So, so it was really, it was pretty cool.

And then this group of Christians
came up the coast from California.

They called themselves
the Jesus People's Army.

That should have been a warning
to me because army is not a

great word in my dictionary

Well, yeah.

Because I came

out of a war, right?

But I missed that cue.

So I thought, you know, like, just
like a, you know, I, I have a good

imagination, you know, we're going
to have this, the beaker filled with

light and it's shining and it's life.

Well, I thought here we are going
to, we're going to all get together.

We're all on the same path.

We're all trying to figure it out.

We were all doing experiments.

We're all having experiences
and we're going to get together

and we're going to all share our
experiences and we're all going to.

Leave the evening enriched, right?

That's great.

Yeah So I went to the coffee house and
I sat down on a chair and this guy's

immediately swooped in next to me and
that should have been my second cue and

I missed that one too because I had this
idea Of what this is gonna be like, right?

So I looked him in the eyes and I
said to him it must be possible to

see God and live Because when we were
kids we were told if you see God if

you look at God, he kills you Right.

And I always had a problem with that.

It's like, wait a minute.

He loves me unconditionally.

Why would he do that?

Yeah, he created me.

He keeps me alive.

He created this whole
incredible place where I live.

He loves me unconditionally, keeps
me breathing when I sleep, tells me

when to go to the bathroom, right?

Like, runs everything, and
I don't get to look at him.

What's, there's something
wrong with that picture.

And then, um,

uh, yeah, so, so I had a,
I had a problem with that.

That can't be true.

But this guy, when I told him that,
I looked him in the eyes, it must

be possible to see God and live.

He jumped out of his chair and he
was jumping around the room with

his eyes flying around his head and
screamed at the top of his lungs,

you're from the devil, you're
from the Antichrist, get out!

Oh my goodness.

Holy smokes.

So I get slinking out of there.

Well, I think that was a blessing.

Indeed, like the war was a
gift, this was also a gift.

You'll see why in a second.

So I'm standing on the sidewalk,
I say, well, I haven't seen God.

Maybe I'm not supposed
to ask that question.

And by the way, we were also told there
are certain questions you shouldn't ask.

And of course, they never told
us what those questions were.

Because if they'd have told me what the
questions were, I would have asked them.

Right.

Right?

So, so here I am.

I, I haven't, I, I haven't seen God.

So, and I got really
desperate and really confused.

And with the desperation comes sincerity.

And what was, what left It was just
this incredible feeling of, I really

want to know, I really, really, really.

So what I did is I, I went to
the beach, to a beach in the,

outside the city to clear my head.

Cause that's how it cleared my head
when the city got too much for me.

So I ended up on this
beach, completely deserted.

I was the only person there, but
somebody had draped some plastic

over logs and made a little dwelling.

I said, okay, here's my
hotel for the weekend.

Go in there, fall asleep.

In the middle of the night, I woke
bolt upright from dead asleep.

And there was a being made of light,

just there.

No labels, no words, just
a being made of light.

Couldn't tell if it was male or female.

Couldn't tell if it was old or young.

Didn't have any wings, so I
figured it was not an angel.

And this being embodied a message, a
being made of light embodying a message.

And I could put words to that
embodiment, which was, I am

come not to judge, but to love.

I am come not to judge, but to love.

All my confusion, desperation
evaporated instantly.

I have never had a question
since then about what was the

message of the Master to humanity.

I am come not to judge, but to love.

And then I started thinking,
well, who was this?

Cause it didn't have a label
on its forehead, right?

Or on its, or on its sleeve, right?

No names.

So was this Christ?

Was this life?

Was this soul?

Was this spirit?

And I came to the conclusion,
they're actually all the same.

They're all the same.

So the message of the Master to
humanity, I am come not to judge

but to love, is also the message
of life, your life, to your body.

Because life, which is a solar energy
fraction, you know, the sun shines in

all directions, 15 million degrees,
you know, the sun Celsius, pretty hot.

You don't want to get too close
and burn your toenails, right?

So it shines in all directions.

Some of that light is filtered through
93 million miles of space, and then

through the Earth's atmosphere, and then
through green plants, and the fraction

of solar energy that remains is stored
in bonds between atoms to make molecules.

We eat those molecules.

In our cells, those bonds get broken and
that solar energy fraction is released.

And that's our life.

That's our life.

And that life, energy, that solar
fraction, loves the body unconditionally.

It weighs nothing, runs everything.

It is omnipresent in your
body, so everywhere present.

It is omnipotent or omnipotent.

All powerful in your body and Omniscient
everywhere present in your body.

That's a definition of God, by the
way, Omnipotent, Omniscient, right?

So there you are.

So solar energy is life
energy, is God, is Christ.

Oh my God, we are really connected.

Oh my God, we're really,
we're really connected, right?

And then that energy that weighs
nothing and runs everything,

its nature is a flow of unconditional
empowering love for your body.

And it turns out, when you think
about it, because if I say to you,

Hey, Julie, whose body is that?

What do you say?

If I'm not thinking, I say it's mine.

Yeah, that's, and most people aren't
thinking, and that's what they say, right?

Right.

And that's what I would say, well,
this is my body, but you know what?

It's like a rental space.

It's actually true, it's
actually true, it is your body.

But what you're saying
is you're not the body.

Right.

You're saying you're
the owner of the body.

This is my body.

I'm the owner of the body.

I'm the owner of this body.

Well, who am I as owner of this body?

Then it's like, uh, uh, well,
actually life owns your body.

That solar energy fraction
is the owner of your body.

So that solar energy, though you call
God or you call it Christ, or you

call it, it's the master in the body.

Or, you call it spirit, or you call
it soul, is the owner of your body.

So that means your individual
essence is that energy.

Oh my god, you know what
else about that life energy?

What else?

It's perfect health.

Ah.

It never gets sick.

It never dies.

You can't kill something that has no form.

Has no form.

So there you are.

So then when you say, okay, I'm sick.

Actually, that's miss, that's misspeaking.

Say, no, I'm not sick, just my body is.

Because the body is subject
to, to breakdown, right?

Because it has form.

Form is subject to breakdown.

Well, the energy that, that runs it
is not, is not subject to breakdown.

So it's always perfectly healthy.

And it's beyond death.

Right.

Because you can't just, you know,
energy when it separates from

the body, the body goes flat.

Right.

Right.

And then it gets recycled into
the water, the air, the, the, the

minerals that it was made from and
the energy goes wherever energy goes.

I mean, whether it dissipates
or, you know, but it goes

somewhere because you can't just,

Doesn't end.

Yeah.

Yeah.

You

can't unmake something
that exists just like that.

It just separates from the body.

Right.

And then if you listen to people
with near death experiences, Right.

You know, they become light and then
they float around as little light orbs.

And, you know, there's also kind of,
I don't know what's going on, right.

But those reports kind
of are in line with.

I am not the body, I am the
energy, and death is not the end.

And by the way, that was also
the message of the Master.

You know, every, the body, every
body gets crucified eventually.

Every inconception is immaculate.

Every birth is lowly, because
we are born as, uh, St.

Augustine so, uh, so eloquently
said, we are all born between the

urine and the excrements, right?

Which is true, right?

Because the birth canal is
in between those two, right?

So that's lowly birth.

Doesn't matter if you're a king or
an emperor or the master himself.

They all came from lowly birth.

Not because they were donkeys in the
in the place, but because because

birth birth is a is a lowly experience.

Now, that's not negative.

Right.

It's just a, it's just a fact.

Right.

And then eventually the body
gets crucified by something.

Could be a bullet.

It could be old age.

Could be falling off a chair.

It could be, uh, it could
be deficiency of something.

Could be infection.

But eventually the body gets
crucified and death is not the end.

So this, so that story that I came
2000 years too late to is actually

the story of every human being.

Right.

In the present.

At every time.

Yeah.

Only, only you live that story
now, and whoever's listening or

watching is living that story.

And you can notice the parts
of that story in your own life.

Right?

So what is, so, so what does that mean?

These, the, the masters were
teachers of human nature.

You know, you don't, you don't
learn about life and biology,

and you can't take a course in
human nature where you really get.

Uh, you, where you really learn
human nature because you can't

be an academic on human nature.

You have to, you have to
be living in your space.

So when you live in your space, then if
you, and, and the way to do that is you

have to spend some time with yourself.

Voluntary solitude, right?

Quiet place, safe place where you
distract, where you, you leave

your distractions outside and
you bring your focus back in.

Into the space your body occupies,
what are you going to find there?

Well, if you go to all the, to the core of
it, you're going to end up feeling peace

or pure awareness, feeling peace or
pure awareness, or some people in

quantum physics, they call it the field.

What is that?

No content, a container
without dimensions, no

inside, no outside dimensions.

And in that peace, everything
in the universe unfolds.

The entire universe and your
life unfolds in a container, in

an infinite container of peace.

When you feel that peace in the core of
your being, because that's your axis,

then

you can look around, oh yeah, the
peace is not limited to my body.

The peace is everywhere.

I'm a center for it, and
it goes out to infinity.

Everybody is a center of that peace.

I love that.

And that peace goes out to infinity.

Everything takes place in peace.

Even war takes place in peace.

Peace.

You know, we make decisions about what we
put into that piece, and sometimes it's

kind of stupid, but from a, from the, from
the sanctity of life perspective, right?

So within that piece is this
flow of unconditional love.

And there are people who
say, well, actually, love is

just a condensation of peace.

So, so the field condenses into
energy, that energy is, is the love.

And when I feel that.

I literally feel cared for when I don't
I'm when I don't then I feel not cared

for then I'm always looking What can
I do that'll get me taken care of and

we do a really a lot a lot of damaging
destructive things on this planet in

our quest for Finding on the outside
The love that we can only connect

to on the inside and that is already
there and is waiting for us to connect

Oh, so beautiful.

Yeah.

Isn't that cool?

And

I want to,

I'm, I'm almost, I'm almost
to inspiration, but go ahead.

Well, I just wanted to throw in,
if people are like, why, you know,

why are we talking about this?

Um, because so often people go
after healing, it's the doing

and the doing and the doing.

And the healing is in the being and
that is why I was so excited to bring

you in again for this conversation So
i'll i'll give the mic back to you.

I just had to throw that in there In

fact, in fact, if you look at
a lot of disease Comes from us

with our mind Interfering with
the flow of the unconditional

love that is our perfect health.

Ah, yes Right?

Yeah.

And there are people who've actually
find the places in the brain where

some of these diseases begin.

Yes.

There's a group called the
New German, the New German.

New German

Medicine.

Yeah, New German Medicine, right?

Yeah.

So they,

so they contract diseases to where in
the brain the, the, the, the conflict is.

Where the interference with the
unconditional love that is literally

flowing through your entire body.

But you can block it with your thoughts,
you know, and you can say, you can be

filled with love and, and at the same
time that you're filled with love by

nature, you can be saying, I'm no good.

Yeah.

Why am I screwed up?

I don't know.

You know, and people tell you that there's
something wrong with you and then you buy

it because you're not doing your homework
and recognizing, no, I am unconditionally

loved and I am unconditional love.

Yes.

If I do my homework and spend time
in stillness, voluntary solitude,

bringing my focus inside where
that love, where I am, that love.

How cool is that?

Right?

So that's number two.

Then number three, the shine
of that unconditional love.

into the world.

I call it inspire.

I call it inspired purpose.

It's also positive mind.

It's also visionary.

It's also a contribution, a
positive contribution, right?

It's also called the Holy Spirit.

So now you have the, the, the Trinity
is all, all part of your nature, right?

And there's your inspiration.

And if you know how to get in
touch with that unconditional love.

You will be inspired and your purpose
will be Because what happened to me

when I go there and I do that every day
when I go there I feel so cared for that.

It's kind of like oh my god.

It's not about me anymore I'm cared for

yourself

Yeah, and if I don't feel cared for then
I know where to go to feel cared for

right?

I have a practice I know where to go
and when I feel cared for well, it's

not about me anymore What what do I what
do I need to do Oh, where can I help?

Where can I help?

What needs to be done?

How can I make the biggest splash for good
that's possible in the time that I have?

So it changes the orientation.

Before, when I didn't feel cared
for, it was all like, What can

I do to get me taken care of?

And now it's like, Okay, I'm good.

Where can I help?

And it just makes my life so simple.

Because what I can do to
help shows up every day.

I go for a walk and somebody's turning the
map upside down because they're a tourist

and they don't know where they're going.

I see it and I say, where
are you trying to go?

Right?

It's that simple.

It's really simple stuff.

Sometimes it's just a smile for
someone you can tell needs a smile.

Yeah,

or a joke and everybody
starts laughing, right?

Yeah.

Anything that raises the energy,
that raises the quality of life.

www.

larryweaver.

com Because, we're, we're God children,
we're children of the universe.

And we're supposedly living in peace
and love and inspiration 24 7, right?

But what happens, why, why we, why
we're not doing that, is because

there was a time when we lived
like that in our mother's womb.

I call it the, I call it the Buddha tank.

The word sounds good, you know, if
you call it the Christ, if you call it

the Christ tank, you know, that's like
a, that's like the, the Buddha tank.

No, that doesn't work, right?

You're living

in the Buddha tank, right?

So your sperm was alive, and the egg
was alive, and they got together,

and the zygote, the fertilized egg,
the zygote is alive, and it implants,

and then a tank gets built around
it, it's called a womb, right?

Filled with water, and you're
literally on a cord, right?

Floating in the water, nothing to do,
nowhere to go, but just be everything

taken care of and pretty safe.

Yeah.

And so what, so where is your focus?

Well, the focus had no place to go.

So your focus is at rest in its
source inside in life, in awareness.

So you're hanging out and you're
literally in a nine month meditation.

If you're a full term baby, you're
in nine months of continuous.

Meditation

you're a master

in that place.

Yeah, you're in mastery, right?

And so that goes on and it's like,
you know, if you think about it, you

know That's got to be the boringest
bloody place you could ever be To

spend nine months doing nothing because
we're so addicted to doing things.

So oh my god, that's amazing How
did you possibly how could you

possibly stand being so bored for
nine months without interruption?

No, you're not bored.

No, you're in light.

You're in bliss You're in peace, you know,
sometimes you see fetal fetus pictures,

you know, and there's a little smile on
their face Yes, you know and you're just

like hanging out and the body's being
built life is building the body You're

not building the body life is building
it and life is using your mother to bring

you in Your mother is not making you
right Life is using your mother life is

Making your mother and life is using your
mother to bring you in And you belong to

life more than you belong to your mother
And your mother helps on the outside and

it's, it's a noble, it's a noble, um,
uh, I just can't call it a profession.

Yeah.

It's a, it's really a partnership.

It's a noble endeavor.

Yeah.

Oh yeah.

But, but the most important part
of the child is inside it, right?

Because that's how it grows.

You know, you can feed
it, but you can't grow it.

Right.

Right.

You know, you can put a blankie
on it, but you don't make it grow.

Right.

You know, you can put it in
bed and turn out the lights,

but you don't make it sleep.

Right.

So do

I know

that?

So how have

you been there done that?

So so we can help and make it
comfortable on the outside unless

we take our kids into the war zone.

Right.

But so we can we can help on the
outside and make it more comfortable.

But life is doing the job and the life is
doing the job for eight billion people.

And life is the leader.

Is the true leader of humanity and
every human being has access to the

same leader in their own space to give
them advice about how to live in their

space instead of running to experts
who are usually half baked, right?

Right?

Why don't you ask life how to live?

Because life knows everything about
you, and life knows, life is the thing

that, that runs the planet, right?

Not some guy in Ottawa, or some guy
in DC, or some guy in Buenos Aires, or

Right.

That's just like, that's a sham.

So where, where does one start it back to
this voluntary, voluntary solitude, right?

What, how does that look for somebody
who hasn't had a practice or maybe isn't

feeling inspired or in touch with purpose?

Well, thanks for putting me
back on track because there's

one more story I need to tell.

Okay.

So you were in this perfect place
in the mother's womb, and then

one day you got kicked out of it.

It's true.

And everything changed, right?

So in there, you were, you,
you're, you're, your focus was

present inside, absent outside.

You didn't even know there was a mother
around you when you were in there.

You didn't know there was a
world around the mother, right?

You know, you didn't have any words.

You didn't have to use the bathroom.

You didn't have to eat because
it was all provided through

the umbilical cord, right?

And you didn't even need to breathe.

So you were literally

You know, how can, how still can
you get, if you don't need to

breathe, you can get really still.

Right.

So, so then you got, then you got
booted out and now everything changed.

Now you had to cry for your breast
milk and you had to cry for your

blankie and you had to cry for keeping
warm and for touch and for all the,

the simple basic needs for liquid,
for food, for diaper change, you

know, and you had to get to know the
world because now you're vulnerable.

Because you live in a
world where things change.

And some things, some
changes are not beneficial.

And some things are.

So you have to learn,
get to know the world.

And you have to, your, your focus goes
from inside present, outside absent.

To more and more outside
present through your senses.

Because your senses are
attracted to change.

Because every time something changes,
you got to say, well, is this friend?

Or is this faux or is this irrelevant
and you have to do that very quickly

because you're just survival depends
on it And so we get really good at

and every day we go out go out go out.

You hear a sound Oh, what's that?

You you know, the door opens.

I give a lecture 3 000 people, right?

Yeah, and

the side door opens and somebody comes
in late I lose my entire audience to the

door that's moving and a person coming
through sure because we're attracted

to change so automatically Yeah.

Right?

So older you get, more you spend
your sight, your, your, your

focus outside and less inside.

And with that disconnection
from the inner.

Peace, love, and inspiration,

with the disconnection from that comes
discontent, something's missing, you

lost something, you lost yourself,
you lost your connection to yourself.

Then you try to find it outside by who
you marry, or how much money you make,

or what kind of job you do, or what
kind of adventure you have, or what kind

of power you can get, or whatever it
is that you're chasing on the outside.

There's always the hope that when you're
successful, you will feel whole again.

Because nobody tells you that, that
you're, you are feeling unwhole and

you being driven is a discontent that
comes from a disconnection of yourself.

Right.

Yes.

Nobody tells you that.

So then you, you look for it and
you, and, uh, you know, and I talked

to a guy who was a billionaire.

He had an airport named after it.

And I said to him when I, he, he wanted
to meet me cause he read my book, fats

and oils, fats that heal, fats that kill.

And in the last chapter, I talk more
about this kind of stuff, but it's just

like short because it's a book on oils.

Right.

He said, I was reading between the
lines and I said, I wanted to talk to

you because there's something there.

And I, I want to talk to
you about what that is.

So I said, well, let me
tell you how your life goes.

You, you, you, you come up with a
scheme, like building an airport, right?

And then you spend 20 days, 20 years.

Busting your butt getting together all
the people and all the Material and all

the plans and all of those things that
you have to do to create an airport

And there's a hope as you're doing
that when you start when you decide.

Yeah, i'll take this on There's
always the hope that when i'm

successful I'll feel whole.

Yeah, i'll be happy Yeah,

yeah, and then you're successful and
then you get three days where you go.

Yeah, I did it.

I did it And on the fourth day you're
depressed He said, well, he said, I,

well, I wouldn't call it depressed.

I'd call it let down.

Yeah.

Okay.

Depressed.

That's what depression is.

Right.

But you're not inspired because
you can't be inspired and

depressed at the same time.

Right.

So he said, yeah, he
said, that's exactly it.

Yeah.

And then what you do is you say,
well, I didn't think big enough.

Or I didn't think in the right direction.

So then you come up with another
possibility and you say, well,

if I'm successful with that,
then I'll feel all again.

Right.

And he looked at me and he said,
that's exactly how my life has gone.

And so I said, so here's
what you're missing.

What you're missing is that when you're,
when you feel let down, when your

heart aches, heartache is the result
of your disconnection from yourself by

your focus going out into the world.

and moving away from where your
wholeness already lives, right?

And you don't know that, and because
you don't know that, you're looking

for, on the outside, for something
you can only find on the inside.

You know, if you look at these
multi multi billionaires, Have you

noticed they're just as petty as,
just as petty as the poor people?

Oh gosh, if not more so.

So, so the poor people think if I had, if
I had rich people's money, I'd be happy.

But then you look at the rich people who
have that money and they're not happy.

No.

No, why is that?

Because happiness is a state of being
within you, and you have to bring

your focus to it in order to be happy.

And it doesn't require you to do anything.

That's it.

You know happiness.

There's a happiness that's a
result of something and that's

a temporary happiness, right?

There is a permanent happiness
That is a state of being that you

can go to any time you want if you
know how to bring your focus there

So to go back to your question,

yes

Learn

to bring our focus there.

You got it.

You got a you got a You got
to make friends with heartache

Ah, see and what what do we you
know, when do we have heartache?

There's hundreds of triggers for
heartache You know girlfriend dumps me.

I didn't want to get dumped Heartache and
you always feel it uneasy feeling in your

chest Uncomfortable painful maybe makes
you cry, you know Um, it can be pretty

intense, you know If uh, if I made a made
an agreement with somebody and the person

breaks the agreement Heartache, right?

If my grandmother died and I
was close to her, heartache.

If my dad dies, even if I wasn't
close to him, heartache, right?

So there are so many triggers
for heartache, but the trigger

of heartache is not the cause.

The cause is your natural, normal,
necessary disconnection from yourself.

To get to know the world for
survival, for the temporary survival.

So if heartache and heartache is
a huge gift, it's actually the

greatest gift you've been given
other than being alive, by the way,

there's no auto immune diseases in
either, in either peace or health.

Or love or inspiration, because
autoimmune isn't, is a, is a

physical, sometimes mental phenomenon.

Not, and, and, and your thoughts and
your body can't go into the peace.

The peace is in your body, but
your body is not peace, right?

So something unpeaceable
is evolving in peace.

Anyway, so, so, um, yeah, so, so
you, you make friends with heartache.

How do you do that?

Well, you don't have
to look for heartache.

You don't, you don't have to go, Oh,
let me go and create some heartache.

There's enough.

No, you get enough.

You get enough.

It's a normal part of you.

Things end.

You know, you put you, you
hopes that something doesn't

end, which ends heartache.

You have an expectation.

The expectation gets
blown heartache, right?

Yeah.

So when you have heartache.

Remember, it's your
friend and sit with it.

Be with it.

Don't judge it.

Just feel it.

Might be tears.

It won't kill you.

So you sit with heartache.

And the reason you want to sit
with heartache is because that's

your door to, to wholeness.

Because heartache in its essence,
Is your life calling your focus

to come back home inside to
where all the goodies are, right?

Absolutely.

So you sit with it.

And so heartache, why is
heartache such a gift?

Well, number one, it grounds you, makes
you simple, gets you out of your head,

because it puts your focus here, not here.

Okay, so heartache makes you simple.

Well, that's a good thing.

Getting out of your head is a good thing.

Especially when you're overactive
and overwhelmed and anxious and

tripping on what ifs and you're
depressed because I'm not good enough.

Or let

down.

Oh yeah, let down.

So, So that's the first part.

It makes you simple.

It grounds you.

Second is your drive.

It's your driving force
for everything you do.

Heartache is the driving force.

Only you don't call it heartache.

You call it some other name
based on what triggered it.

You know, restlessness, emptiness,
striving, yearning, hoping, wishing,

You know, this all, like, because,
you know, if you're, if you're

whole, you don't need, you don't
need to have any wishes, right?

So

wait, so you can be whole and
not done all at the same time?

Of course, no, of course, of course,

of course, no, but that's, that's
actually a really good question

because when you're whole, you're
no longer compelled and driven.

Then you, then you get
to choose how you help.

Yes.

And now you're, and now you're
actually free because you're in choice.

Yeah, you're not free
when you're not whole.

Right.

You know, it's all the idea about freedom.

Well, freedom, freedom is only possible
in wholeness because then you're free to

be what you are and you're free to do what
comes out of your being, which is always

based on peace, love, and inspiration.

Holy smokes.

That's so cool, right?

How you can be free even in a, in a war?

I was in jail.

I was in jail and I felt free.

Yeah.

Because I didn't think about the bars.

Right.

I thought, I felt, I felt the heart.

Yeah.

Once you

know how

to go there, it doesn't matter what
goes on in the world, you can actually

be the light in your own darkness.

How cool is that?

Perfect.

So now this third thing is,
It's your call to come home.

If it wasn't for heartache calling
you home, you know, your, your focus

would get lost in the world and
wander around aimlessly, and you

would never find your way back home.

Heartache calls you home.

How important is that?

That's like thirst for water
and hunger for food, right?

And full bladder for going to
pee and tired for sleeping.

If you never

got tired, you'd never
sleep and you'd burn out.

Right.

I don't know what would happen if you
never, you know, Felt the need to pee.

It would not be good.

It would not be good for

sure.

So, so it's, so it's the cause, so, so
the thirst, sometimes some people call it

the thirst of the heart to feel fulfilled.

Heartache is the thirst of
the heart to feel fulfilled.

That's not, that's a
pretty good description.

Okay, what else?

It's your starting point for the journey.

If you have no starting point,
you don't have a journey.

Right a starting point and you need
a you need an end point The starting

point is heartache and the end point
is peace or love or inspiration Right.

So it's your starting point for the
journey and you can't, you know, if

you won't put your feet in the starting
blocks, you're not going to win the race.

Right.

Right.

So every journey has to
have a starting point.

That's the starting point.

And then the last one is, If you've gone
to the starting point, and you're sitting

with it, and you stay with it, and you
find that less than a hair's breadth

behind your heartache is your wholeness.

So you literally, from the
heartache, you're almost there.

You're almost there.

And you might go through a little bit of
boredom, but boredom is very peaceful.

And boredom, you only feel bored and
think it's negative because you're

addicted to doing so much stuff.

Right.

So not just, just get, it's
okay not to do anything.

Right.

In fact, if you want to fix the planet,
do less, right, do less, be more, be

more, have a, have a, you know, raise
the, raise the vibration and then

live into the world in a, in a, in a
quieter, peaceful, more beautiful way.

Right.

It's like not complicated.

And then last one, if you've taken the
journey home, then you're going to become

complacent because you feel so good.

And then you're going to drift again.

And then the heartache will come
back to call you home again.

Sure.

So it's the reminder that you need.

And, and one more thing, you
know, going out through your

senses into the world as a kid.

To, for survival is automatic.

Coming home has to be deliberate.

Ah, I love that.

Your senses will always take you out.

You will have to then make a decision that
you want to cultivate what's within you

and then commit to doing that.

And whether that's five day, five, five
minutes a day or ten minutes a day, I

like to do an hour, an hour and a half.

I'm.

Yeah.

I've gotten better at it, and
it becomes, it's hard at first

because we're not used to it.

It's foreign.

Just like, just like you

had to learn how to walk and you fell
on your schnoz a whole bunch of times.

Yep.

Right?

But finally you did.

You never gave up.

Yeah.

You need to be like
that with this as well.

Never give up.

And yeah, if you don't, you know,
and I have, I've had times when I do

my, call it self knowledge practice.

Uh huh.

Stillness practice.

And I get up after and
said, I never felt anything.

Wow.

What a waste of time.

I never felt anything.

But you know what?

I noticed that my day goes better.

Yes.

Because I did take the time to be quiet.

And it's an exercise.

Yeah.

It's a, it's a discipline.

And so for the, that, that
doing mindset, you know, doing,

being, sitting, is actually an

exercise and it,

it does

impact.

Yeah.

It's a discipline and you get better
as you do it more, and I, I'm to the

point where I look forward to doing it.

I've been doing it now for over 50 years.

Yeah.

I started when I was
30, I'm 82, so 52 years.

I love, my favorite is that you said,
you know, it can be five minutes a day.

Like, no, I don't, don't try
to start with Udo's practice.

Like don't try, don't,
you can't, well, you

can if you want to.

Well, but I have people
I hear it all the time.

Oh, I tried and I can't you know, then
they they're not successful That's the

coach in me Started and builds right?

Yeah, but

yeah, and and and the the thing is that
people talk themselves out of it, right?

You know, just like I say, well, I I
practiced and I never felt anything

But then I paid attention and
actually my day went better, right?

Oh, yeah Wow, so something happened in
that time that I didn't notice You Right?

I basically what happens is you become
calmer and you become more settled and

you become more solid and you become
more anchored In your being and you

and you're a little more peaceful,
but sometimes you don't notice right,

but it still shows up in the world It
does and people and people notice it I

walked across a gym floor one time in a
meeting and somebody came running after

me and said hey What is it you have?

So what do you mean?

I wasn't thinking about, I
wasn't like being very conscious.

I was just walking.

So he said, what do you mean?

Well, you have something and I want that.

Oh, I know what you, yeah.

And then I started talking to
him about the practice that I do.

That's what he was looking for.

Yeah.

But he saw it.

I mean, I didn't even see
it in myself and he saw it.

Right.

Right.

Because people can feel it.

It's, it's energy.

So people can feel it.

Yeah.

Where your focus goes, shows up.

Yes.

If you're in peace.

You know, you live into a
world that's filled with peace

because you see the peace.

Yes.

If you can't see peace in the
world, it means you're not, peace

in you is not doing the looking.

Right.

Right?

And then if you, if you see peace,
that's very different than if you're

angry, because if you're angry,
you'll see enemies in the world.

Sure.

And if there aren't any
there, you'll create them.

That's why, you know, gratitude
practice or, and any of these practices.

Right.

Yeah.

Right.

And if you're fearful,
you're going to see enemies.

Sure.

You're going to see, uh, you're
going to see danger everywhere.

Yeah.

And

then you're going to live into the
world as though it was dangerous,

and you'll, you'll be afraid of
things that aren't dangerous.

Yeah.

You're creating that with your own
mindset, with your own state of being.

So if in a state of peace, you see the
world for what it is, because you're not

elaborating, you're not embellishing,
you're not imagining, you're not

fantasizing, you're not, you're Right.

You're feeling it.

You're in it.

There's no mental content in peace
because it's a state of being not an

emotional state in emotional states.

They all have mental content.

And then you're, if you're in that state
of being, wow, you know, it's amazing.

Then you see where all the pieces.

Oh, my God.

I mean, you know, what, what?

Oh, my God.

Somebody said to me this morning.

Can you, or yesterday, I guess.

Uh, uh, yeah.

One question I always ask the people
I do my interviews with at the end.

Is, uh, say something you're grateful for.

Yes.

So I said to her, do you
have 82 years to listen?

Because honestly, from this perspective.

Sure.

Oh my God.

The fact that I can talk
to you wherever you are.

Right.

We can have this conversation.

It's

And inspire people.

Oh my god, you know,

and then you talk about the
technology that makes it possible.

Oh my god, then you got the lighting
so that I sort of look lit, right?

And then you have all the stuff on the
walls and whoever made the glass, I

don't know who invented glass, but oh
my god, I'm the beneficiary of being

able to see the trees outside, right?

Yeah.

And I'm not even outside of my
house yet for the gratitude, right?

Right, right.

I'm breathing.

I have a bathroom, you know, I, I
have some supplements that I take,

you know, it's like some good oil
among other things and enzymes and

probiotics and, you know, and, and
then I'm not even out of the house yet.

And then I go outside, Oh my God,
the grass is making oxygen for me.

You know, so with every in
breath, I can say, thank you.

And then without it, without
every outbreath, I'm making

carbon dioxide for the grass.

Yeah.

So then it's like, thank you.

You're welcome.

You're welcome.

Right.

Well, and I love that

you said it, but it's, it is true that
where your attention goes, energy flows.

Oh, sure.

And so, you know, yeah.

Why wouldn't we create the practice?

To have this be the experience of life.

Yeah.

Well, the question is, what is, what do
you want, what do you want the, your,

the quality of your life to look like?

Yeah.

If you, if you, if you, you know, I'm
going to be crude, you know, if you want

your quality of life to be shit and build
a tent next to a sewer, right, right.

If you, if you want, if you want your
life to be filled with peace and love.

Then be present in the space your body
occupies, because that's where it is.

Ah, I love it.

On that note.

And there's more of that in you
for you than you're ever going

to get from anything outside.

Absolutely.

And that's why, that's why the
masters who were really smart.

said, kingdom of heaven is
within you, first seek the

kingdom and make that a practice.

And then everything else will,
everything else will be okay.

My day is good.

My day is good.

Just because I'm good.

Right.

Right.

I, you know, even if all the politics
is crazy, there's nothing crazy in here.

There's nothing crazy in here.

My head might be crazy.

There's nothing crazy in my heart.

Right.

My body might, might have pain somewhere.

There's no pain in in
my life energy, right?

Yes, and so I literally get to be
the light in in my world the light

in my darkness What if eight billion
people were the light in their space?

Imagine how the world would be

it would it would it would be and we're
and honestly we're wired for that.

So We're now to the point where we're
either going to destroy ourselves or

we're going to do we're going to figure

it out

Or we're going to do our homework.

Yeah.

Yeah,

I love it.

Yes It's like it's like yeah, we
live in an incredible time and

I get to do this comes out of my
experiences How I got there, right?

Everybody has experiences.

The hunger is already in every
human being Yeah, the heartache is

already there going to the heartache
just behind it Just a little deeper

than that is your magnificence

Uh, so beautiful, Udo, uh, see, and the
beauty is somebody who's 20 can listen

to this and get the value of your 82
years of experience and, and just your,

your heart so we can feel your heart.

Yeah.

I think you already answered this,
but I'm going to give you the

opportunity to answer it again.

Okay.

What is one step listeners can
take starting today to improve

their health, their life, their.

Well, you know what?

Most people are not, are not satisfied
with one step, so I came up with four.

Of course you did.

Uh, one of them is first.

Make friends with your heartache.

Second, take time to be as
still as possible every day.

And I do it in this way.

It's kind of like, okay,
how still can I become?

It's kind of like a game in a way,
like little kids can play that, right?

Play, you play in hide and seek and you
didn't get, you didn't get well hid.

You have to be really quiet because
if you, if you, if you cough, You're

gonna, gonna be attacked, right?

How still can I be?

And then how deep can I
go into that stillness?

And then how long can I hang out there?

And how lightly and calmly
and evenly can I breathe?

And when I do that, what shows
up in the space my body occupies?

So that's a, that's stillness practice.

I just made it up.

I love it.

Or you can, or you can go to a teacher
and he'll show you some techniques.

You know, I, I, I've used techniques,
um, I, the techniques I used to called

self knowledge and the guy who came
up with this techniques or who taught

me the techniques, he wrote a book
called hear yourself, hear yourself,

how to find peace in a noisy world.

His name is, his name is Prem Rohit.

The book is on Amazon.

I always

say it's whatever practice resonates
with you that can get you started

is, is, Exactly the one , so, yeah.

Yeah.

And sometimes it's nice to spend time
with people who are doing a practice

because you then you get a contact hive.

Yeah.

Right.

Because 'cause, 'cause it,
it radiates good energy.

Sure.

Yeah.

Yeah, yeah.

Third one was get present to being present
love that get present to being present.

And the four oh oh no
in the space, oh, sorry.

Get present to being present in
the space your body occupies.

So that was the third one.

And maybe every once in a while, when
you think you're really stupid and,

and ugly and, and not good enough,
then remind yourself, I am light

and I am love in my essential being

beautiful.

So, um, and how, how could any,
how could that not be healing?

I mean, I'm

trying to make it, I'm trying to make
it, uh, impossible to be destructive.

Right.

Thank you.

I think, I think you did an amazing job.

So, so grateful for your time, Udo.

You, again, have given us so
much gold, but beyond that,

your light shines through.

Yeah.

Well, I hope, I hope, I hope
I infect 8 billion people.

I do too.

Yes.

And I need your help to do that.

Well, I am grateful for you

and thank you for doing that.

I thank you.

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