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Looking for guests who are willing to bring a wealth of experience and knowledge but also possess the strength, resilience, and sass that align with the tone of my podcast.
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Welcome to Superheroes in Heels, the podcast where powerful women rise, lead, and own the room. I'm Kimberley Borgans, your host, fellow trailblazer, and unapologetic advocate for women in the world of business. With over thirty years of experience building success in a male dominant industry, I'm here to empower you to do the same. Each week, you'll hear bold conversations with inspiring guests who embody strength, resilience, a little dash of sass, and a little bit of grace. Together, we'll challenge the status quo, break through barriers, unlock your confidence, and unleash your inner superhero.
Kimberley Borgens:You ready? Let's go. Hello, and welcome to Superheroes in Heels, the podcast that fiercely empowers women to step into command presence, own their role, and lead like the strong capable women that they are. I'm your host, Kimberley Borgans. And today, I'm joined with an amazing woman who's bringing great value into the industry of time management.
Kimberley Borgens:I know some of you are like, ugh. I don't wanna hear that one, but, no, you really do. You wanna be here because she's gonna, you know, share with us some real talk of what it takes to be a successful woman and utilize time management in her you know, in your business and in your life. Sarah Rife Hecking, she's the founder of True Focus Coaching. You know, she has a PhD in clinical psychology and associate professor.
Kimberley Borgens:She was an associate professor at University of Massachusetts, but she's a time management expert. Right? And she takes on procrastination, like a warrior. So, you know, what why is she a superhero to join our superhero in heels podcast? Look.
Kimberley Borgens:She teaches one of the most frustrating and universal challenges professionally. Right? She teaches time management and helps to eliminate procrastination. I don't know about you, but that is huge when you're a business owner. I don't know if you've noticed, but procrastination can prevent you from getting jobs, prevent you from getting clients, prevent you from moving forward in your business.
Kimberley Borgens:Like, she uses that little bit of psychology, some coaching, and, of course, some real world strategies to create a change, you know, that sticks for you. So I just wanna welcome Sarah Rife Hecking. I'm so glad that you've chosen to join us today, Sarah.
Sarah Reiff-Hekking:Thanks so much for having me, Kimberley.
Kimberley Borgens:Yay. Okay. So, Sarah, tell us what, you know, give us an example. First off is how did you get on this journey with time management?
Sarah Reiff-Hekking:Yeah. So I started out way back when and I got a PhD in clinical psychology. And then I worked at a medical center as a clinical psychologist doing NIH funded research and clinical practice in the Preventive and Behavioral Medicine Clinic. So that's a health psychology clinic. And I had the dream job.
Sarah Reiff-Hekking:You know, I was doing my research. I was doing stuff I'd like to do in the clinic. Along the way, I met my husband. We had the kid. And then all of a sudden, the dream job did not add up to the dream life.
Sarah Reiff-Hekking:And I was in this place where, you know, I needed to just reflect myself and decide how I wanted to reconfigure things. Okay. And and I had this moment where I was at work, and I ran from my office to the North 40 where my car was parked in this big medical campus. Right? And I literally ran, like, huffing it, jumped in the car, carrying the bags, all the stuff, all the working parents out there know what I mean.
Sarah Reiff-Hekking:Jumped in the car, drove like a crazy woman, and went to pick up my kid, and I was running late. And my day care provider said to me, you know, I said to her, like, you know, she had a policy. You pay a certain number of dollars per minutes like a lot of these places do. They wanna incentivize you for being on time, which I appreciate. And I said, Marie, how much do I owe you?
Sarah Reiff-Hekking:And she said, Sarah, it's not about the money. I need you to be here on time. Yeah. And that moment where I was like, alright. I'm not walking my own talk.
Sarah Reiff-Hekking:I'm not standing in my own integrity, and I need to figure out how to do something
Kimberley Borgens:different. Wow.
Sarah Reiff-Hekking:Yeah. Yeah. So and, you know, that was not my first run-in with managing time. Right? You know, I certainly way back when as a graduate student and in my, you know, jobs along the way, had had times where I wasn't doing what I knew I needed to be doing.
Sarah Reiff-Hekking:Right? I was fighting that overwhelm, that procrastination, that freezing, that avoidance. So when I started my coaching practice and my company, I started thinking more about health coaching because that's where I was trained and my clinical psychology interacts with health coaching and health psychology.
Kimberley Borgens:Right, right.
Sarah Reiff-Hekking:And at some point along the way, realized what I'm really, really good at is helping smart people figure out how to get the right things into their day. So now I work with business owners and professionals to help them figure out how do you get the right stuff done during your business day so you can create that profitable business, that career that you love, and also have the whole life that you want. Because it's really not just about time management, Kimberley It's about life management.
Kimberley Borgens:I agree. I agree 100%. So tell me, like, what are some some things that is sometimes misunderstood about time management?
Sarah Reiff-Hekking:No. That's about cramming more in.
Kimberley Borgens:Yeah.
Sarah Reiff-Hekking:It's about cramming more in. And I have this conversation with people all the time because I I talk about, you know, let's put together what I call a flexible template for your week. I'm doing air quotes, people. You can't see me, but flexible template for your week. Right?
Sarah Reiff-Hekking:So it's a plan that's flexible. And most of the time when my clients first start to put it together, they cram too much stuff in there. Mhmm. And they make a really pretty picture that, you know, looks like a really nice schedule for the week but is completely unable to be implemented.
Kimberley Borgens:Yeah. You know, I had once had a mentor who used to say, look. You you know, if you if you need to add more things, just get a bigger plate. Right? And I I bought into that for quite a while.
Kimberley Borgens:Like, I just need a bigger plate. You know what? I've ran out. I don't have a there is not a big enough plate.
Sarah Reiff-Hekking:Yes. Yes. It's that point you need to say the plate is the right size. Exactly. And how do I start to say no to things that are not mine to do or that somebody else could do for me?
Sarah Reiff-Hekking:And that's as a business owner, I think the biggest uplevel for most people. And it's harder, I think, sometimes for women to do the delegation because they're so used to being able to handle all the bits and pieces. And that's Yeah. More got them where they are.
Kimberley Borgens:I agree with you. That's why I wrote my my book on delegating is, like, we need to, as women, in order to move forward in business, in order to grow and thrive, is we need to let other people do the mundane things that you weren't meant to do. You're supposed to be an expert in something specific. All that other is just minutiae, like, try you're trying to wade through, you know, all the algae or the, you know, the sea life in the ocean when really you just need to stay focused on your thing and delegating in you know, there's lots of ways to do that, but delegating is one strategy, of time management. Absolutely.
Kimberley Borgens:So what is there a time where you felt, Sarah, that there was a moment that stood out for you that you felt like I find I belong in the room of successful women.
Sarah Reiff-Hekking:Yes. I think that, you know, for me, as an introvert, and I know you're a fellow introvert, Kimberley, we, like, we bond along these lines. We're we're what I call really outgoing shy people. Right? We don't necessarily look like we're introverts, but that is how we refuel by Exactly.
Sarah Reiff-Hekking:Quiet, by by doing more solitary pursuits or being with fewer people. So I think for me, it was really understanding, and this was actually reflected to me from somebody else. I was on a stage in front of 400 people sharing. And after I came off stage, this woman came up to me and she said, what you shared was so impactful. And I said, tell me why.
Sarah Reiff-Hekking:And she said, I've never seen a quiet, clear, direct woman speak on stage the way you did. And you commanded the room, and it really empowered me to know that I can do that too.
Kimberley Borgens:Yes. When we step into our authentic self and we're not ashamed of it
Sarah Reiff-Hekking:Exactly. You know, it really helps.
Kimberley Borgens:And so for you, did that make an impact for you when she shared that?
Sarah Reiff-Hekking:It did. It did. It it helps me hold my own when I'm having that moment of, like, we all do the the jitters every once in a while. Is this the room I belong into? Or how am I owning my space in this room?
Sarah Reiff-Hekking:Which is a question I ask myself probably more often than anything else when I walk into a room and I'm wondering what am I doing there or what is my goal. Nice. So that is one of the things that I think that can be really helpful just to anchor yourself and say, what what is my goal here right now?
Kimberley Borgens:Yeah.
Sarah Reiff-Hekking:And then number two, what is the space that I wanna hold, and what is the energy I wanna bring into this room? And I think as a introvert, I've always had to be more intentional with that because I I have my outgoing moments. You've seen them, Kimberley.
Kimberley Borgens:I have.
Sarah Reiff-Hekking:But I more often go in and hold my space and ask myself what is it that I'm bringing and then bring it.
Kimberley Borgens:Yeah. And I I think that's a wonderful, space in in, you know, what I teach about command presence is you have
Sarah Reiff-Hekking:to
Kimberley Borgens:know what it is which what you wanna accomplish in that space. And it's okay if you're an introvert, and it's okay if you're a lot quieter quieter than other people. I'm an introvert, but I'm not always quiet. Right? Where you have more of a tendency to be more quiet as that introvert.
Kimberley Borgens:Okay. So tell me as a, you know, just as a businesswoman, tell me what are some of the the key strategies or, systems that you have in place for time management that could, you know, help some of our listeners understand that time management isn't a bad thing.
Sarah Reiff-Hekking:Well, right. And it's it's not about cramming more stuff in. It's it's about creating the time map for your day, your week, your year so that you're getting the right things in so that you're living the life that you want. You plan ahead? And creating value.
Sarah Reiff-Hekking:Right? And if there's some somebody out there, I'm sure, who's saying, but, Sarah, wait a minute. I can hardly handle today and tomorrow, which is where most of my clients come in. They're like, wait a minute. You want me to think past twenty four hours?
Sarah Reiff-Hekking:That's that's really hard. And what I do know is that you can learn to do it. And starting to think about your calendar as a time map, not as a thing that you, you know, kinda throw spaghetti at and see if it sticks or that you put in, you know, your to dos or or just your meetings. Lots of times people say, yeah. I use my calendar just for my meetings or my doctor's appointments.
Sarah Reiff-Hekking:Right? Right. But you actually use it to sequence the best use of your time during that particular day or week. And it shifts. I get it scheduled.
Sarah Reiff-Hekking:That's why it's flexible. But the first thing is to really start to think about your calendar as a time map, and I think that's a different concept than how most people think about it.
Kimberley Borgens:Yeah. I agree. It I I've used calendars for many, many years. I've I've gone, you know, the the Franklin Covey or, you know, the Covey, the Franklin, and the Franklin Covey. You know, then it digital, like, all of these things.
Kimberley Borgens:And I think that a lot of people will just put all their their to dos in a calendar and, you know, don't kinda look at it like, okay. What do I wanna accomplish this month, and how do I work backwards in my calendar to make that happen? And, I think it it the more successful you become, the more you realize how important that is. And so if you're looking out there and you're listening to this podcast today and you are looking to grow your business and be more successful, that's a big tip for you today. So, you know, take a look at that.
Kimberley Borgens:Anything else on systems or, you know, structures that you put into place, strategies there?
Sarah Reiff-Hekking:Yeah. I think the biggest problem that I see for most people is they try and copy somebody else's strategies that don't work for how they think, right, how their brain works, how their body works, how their business works, and how their life works. Mhmm. Okay? So there is this target solutions that are gonna work for how you think and how your business runs.
Kimberley Borgens:Yeah.
Sarah Reiff-Hekking:So the a good example of this is, you know, I always hear it, Sarah, if I could just get up at 05:00 in the morning and work out, it'd be fine. Right? That's that's gonna get my workout in. Right? You're giggling because you heard it.
Sarah Reiff-Hekking:Right?
Kimberley Borgens:Absolutely. I've even said it some before. Exactly.
Sarah Reiff-Hekking:I've said it too. And you know what? If you're not a five AMer, that is totally fine. You just figure out when you work it in in a way that works for you.
Kimberley Borgens:Exactly. I'm a six AMer. Okay? Five is just too much.
Sarah Reiff-Hekking:Right. Exactly. Yeah. So you wanna figure you you wanna set up systems that work for how you think, how your brain works. And if your brain doesn't work the same way your mentor's brain or the person sitting beside you at your cubicle or the person who's training you to run your business, then that's not necessarily a bad thing.
Sarah Reiff-Hekking:You just wanna ask yourself, how do I adapt these systems so they're gonna work for me? And what's the function of the system? Right? Make sure it works. Yeah.
Kimberley Borgens:Absolutely. You know, I have to, I have to kinda, like, tell share a quick little story here for a second because, my husband and I are business partners. We work together. Right? But he's the night owl, and I'm the early morning gal.
Kimberley Borgens:Right? And in the beginning of our relationship, I was just, like, so frustrated about that. It's like, no. You gotta get up in the morning, and you have to, you know, get to work quickly and stuff like that. But, you know, what I what we've had to figure out throughout the years is that even though it's what I want, it doesn't didn't fit into his abilities, what he thinks of.
Kimberley Borgens:He stays up late at night. So, look, we're a twenty four seven business. So it actually is a huge benefit for our company when I was willing to let go of that. It has to be my way, right, and allow him because then he's the one who's up handling stuff late at night. I'm a 10:30PM girl.
Kimberley Borgens:Right? I'm in bed by 10:30, eleven because I'm also up by 6AM, and I need to make sure I get enough sleep too. Right? And so I'm the the daytime gal. I'm the early morning get up, get things done, take care of the stuff in the early morning.
Kimberley Borgens:And I think that it's important to understand what you were just saying is, you know, we have to know what works for us, and we can't try to fit into the mold or try to get somebody else to fit into our mold. And I think it's important to understand what your mold is. So I really think that's a valuable piece there.
Sarah Reiff-Hekking:Well, and I think also to take the judgment out of it. Right? So lots of times you know, you've seen the memes on Instagram or whatever, you know, running at 5AM and then having a green smoothie. Right? And it seems like that's that's the one and only way.
Sarah Reiff-Hekking:Right. And it's really not. And, you know, taking the judgment out of it because I think a lot of a lot of women particularly put a lot of pressure on themselves to do things the way they think they're supposed to. Yeah.
Kimberley Borgens:Keep up with the Joneses. Right?
Sarah Reiff-Hekking:Yes. Yes. The way that works best for you. Yeah. And it's gonna allow you to thrive and have the whole life that you want.
Sarah Reiff-Hekking:Yeah.
Kimberley Borgens:I love that. Yeah. You know, I think what you're saying is huge. So let me ask you, you know, what advice would you give a woman today who, wants to break into your industry and thrive there?
Sarah Reiff-Hekking:Yeah. So I think coaching has a couple of different components. And what I do is time management coaching and consulting. So, I'll broaden it to, you know, consultants and, small business owners. But I think if you wanna be a consultant or a coach, there's a couple things.
Sarah Reiff-Hekking:You gotta get really clear about what your niche is so that people know what they are gonna hire you for. So you you heard me say very clearly, I do time management coaching and consulting. Right. I didn't say I'm a life coach who also helps with time management.
Kimberley Borgens:Good.
Sarah Reiff-Hekking:I right? Because I can tell you, yeah, we talk about your whole life, but I don't market myself as a life coach. I never have. I'm very, very clear about the specific niche and the sort of person that I can be helpful with. And in my first conversation with people, if it's clear to me that what I have is not in your best interest, then I'll refer you to somebody else.
Sarah Reiff-Hekking:Right? So being really clear. So that's number one, be clear about your niche. I think the second thing is get clear about what your business model is. Alright?
Sarah Reiff-Hekking:A lot of people get into coaching because they wanna help people. That's admirable, and you're also running a business.
Kimberley Borgens:Right.
Sarah Reiff-Hekking:So how many of what kind of client at what rate, you know, whether it's private or it's at at a group or other things, are most important. Please excuse the dog shaking her head. In the background. If you wondered that we're doing this live.
Kimberley Borgens:Yeah. Okay. So, Sarah, tell us, like, can you share with us a little bit about, you know, taking that time to understand their niche their niche, and then, you know, what is it that they want to do to move forward?
Sarah Reiff-Hekking:Yeah. So so to understand your niche, you wanna ask yourself what you're good at, who can who who do you help the most, what is the benefit from your coaching. And for some of you, that's gonna be really clear based on your training or your past experience that you're bringing to coaching. Yeah. So that's what and you wanna understand your service and how you're providing that service, what you're charging for the service, all of those things, and be able to be very clear with people about the service you're providing and how you provide it.
Sarah Reiff-Hekking:So so that's sort of the outgoing message to people. Yeah. So that you can say to them that if you look like this, I might be able to help you. Right? If you run into people that look like this, I might be able to help them.
Sarah Reiff-Hekking:And it's a very specific person. It's not I help all people with their goals.
Kimberley Borgens:Right? Absolutely.
Sarah Reiff-Hekking:Yeah. I
Kimberley Borgens:dime a dozen. We don't need to be we're not the dimes. Okay? We're the we're the the women out there making a big business.
Sarah Reiff-Hekking:Right. So you wanna be very, very specific. And then the other thing that I see that coaches and consultants miss all the bloom of time is what is your business model? How many clients, at what rates, in what programs do you need to be bringing in in order to pay yourself? What you wanna pay yourself?
Sarah Reiff-Hekking:And then how does that work in terms of getting it into the workday that you wanna have and not taking over your whole life?
Kimberley Borgens:Yeah. I think that's key because a lot of times, small business entrepreneurs don't pay themselves. They take a little money here and there as a draw. You know? Oh, I got money.
Kimberley Borgens:I'm gonna go spend it. No. It's like, set up a structure in your business and pay yourself. Take taxes out now in such a way so that you don't have to deal with that tax bill later and, you know, set themselves up for success. So that's a key thing.
Kimberley Borgens:Tell me, Sarah, who are the people that you're currently working with? Like, who's your ideal client? Who do you like, who do you get excited about working with?
Sarah Reiff-Hekking:Yeah. So I love working with first of all, I love working with women. And I I love working with lawyers, high volume realtors, and also coaches and consultants that really want to make sure that they're getting the right stuff in their workday so that they can create that profitable business and the whole life that they want. So time management is the topic, but what we do is we say and here's the thing, you can't learn time management unless you are managing projects and activities. So I take it into your life.
Sarah Reiff-Hekking:I'm not just gonna do a one and done workshop. I work with people, I hold their hands, we do small group virtual coaching for a lot of folks, and I help you make the behavior change that you think about doing but you're not doing. And I help you figure out how to actually get that in in a way that works for you. So whether it's how do I get in more billable hours? How do I get in that business development?
Sarah Reiff-Hekking:How do I get in the other admin or additional work that I know I wanna be doing? Mhmm. And have that profitable business. And then also be able to take care of myself outside of work and, you know, hang out with family and friends or do those hobbies, whatever it is you wanna do when you're not in the office.
Kimberley Borgens:Yeah. And I think the thing about time management, I just wanna bring it back to that for a quick minute is, you know, I've spoken on your stage, in the past. And, you know, one of the things that we talked about was, like, simple routines is that entrepreneurs have a tendency that they want the freedom to do their own schedule whenever they want to do it. And they don't want to get stuck into a rigid routine because that's not the kind of person that they are. And what I, you know, I know that when I spoke on your stage, I shared, look, if you get up in the morning and you brush your teeth and you take a shower, that's a routine.
Kimberley Borgens:Okay? And be having a routine of time management for yourself is not taking away your freedom. Can you expand just a little bit on that, please?
Sarah Reiff-Hekking:Yes. Absolutely. I hear this all the time. I don't wanna be locked in, Sarah. I don't wanna have to like, I don't like to see that I have to do something on a specific time, or I I don't wanna be too locked in.
Sarah Reiff-Hekking:Right? I need the flexibility. I don't know when I'm gonna feel like doing something. I need to do it when I feel like doing something. And, but I get that.
Sarah Reiff-Hekking:And what happens over time is that you can understand, and this is why I work with people over time, it's not a one and done, but you can start to understand what your own energetic rhythms are and when you feel like doing particular activities, and you can start to predict that more. So that you can start to set up that workflow and that flow of your whole day so that you're matching your energy and when you are likely to want to do something with how you're when you're expecting yourself to do it. Now there are times when we can't. Right? Are times when, you know, the best time for me to write is at 04:00 in the afternoon, and that's a really bad day because my ideal clients need me, and I can't you know, at that time, I can never sit down and write because my clients need me.
Sarah Reiff-Hekking:Okay. So most days, you can't do that. But could you pick one day a week where you don't see the clients at that time, and that's when you do your writing because that's when it's best for your brain to do your writing. Yeah. So so oftentimes we feel like, oh, I can't do that.
Sarah Reiff-Hekking:Well and I'm gonna ask the question, like, what's the and the conversation? If I need to do something else at that time, could I also do could I could I be a little bit more flexible? How can I set that up to support myself in a better way? How do I do this and that instead of I can only do that one thing?
Kimberley Borgens:Yeah. I and I think that's powerful because even as successful entrepreneurs who are rigid, like, emergencies happen. Like, urgent things pop up. And if you're so rigid in things, then you don't have the space for those urgencies and it that creates stress. It creates chaos for you, for your team, you know, and that's not what we want for you in business.
Kimberley Borgens:It's not, you know, you can have flexibility and you can have rigidness. Jeff to know what it is for you, but you have to have enough flexibility overall to handle all the little things that pop up that you were unexpecting.
Sarah Reiff-Hekking:Yeah. And I actually I have a whole, you know, teaching around managing what I called wild what I call wildcards, which are those things that just show up. And it turns out you can actually predict how much wildcard time you tend to have in your day or your week and then leave yourself enough space to handle that.
Kimberley Borgens:I love that.
Sarah Reiff-Hekking:Really, really powerful tool.
Kimberley Borgens:I love that. So look. If you want more information on Sarah, she's on LinkedIn. Her business, true focus coaching is on Facebook and Instagram. You can, apply her strategy session with her at true focus coaching dot com forward slash apply forward slash and and get to know Sarah a little bit more.
Kimberley Borgens:Sarah, I'm gonna ask you some, rapid fire questions here. So let me ask. Heels or sneakers?
Sarah Reiff-Hekking:Both. There's time. There there's place for both. Sometimes heels, sometimes sneakers.
Kimberley Borgens:Got it. Okay. Do you have a a power pose that you like to do that gets you going?
Sarah Reiff-Hekking:I won't say a power pose. What I do do is I I breathe deeply. I get grounded in my body. I make sure I feel my feet on the ground, and I get clear about what energy I'm bringing into the current situation.
Kimberley Borgens:Nice. Nice. Okay. How about texting or talking?
Sarah Reiff-Hekking:Yes. I'm an aunt, but I can tell. So a text for quick communication, talking for longer communication.
Kimberley Borgens:Got it. Let's see. How about for you, last one, favorite day of the week and why?
Sarah Reiff-Hekking:Oh, I'm gonna say Saturday because I I allow myself most Saturday mornings just to sleep till I wake up, and I love having that that slow cup of coffee at the table, that sipping that coffee at the table with my husband as we're both just waking up and chatting and hanging out with our dog.
Kimberley Borgens:Got it. Love that. I love that. That's not my Saturdays, but enjoyed that. So, you know, I really appreciate you, joining me here on the podcast, Sarah, sharing, you know, just some little tips here and there and understanding time management that, you know, time management isn't about, being rigid, but it can prevent procrastination when you put that those strategies into place.
Kimberley Borgens:It helps to, stay focused on what it is that you want, planning ahead and understanding you still can have freedom and flexibility in your schedule. But understanding how important it is that the schedule be there so that you're planning ahead. You know what's gonna happen. You're creating the vision for your business, for your future, right, your life, and all of those things and finding the balance to to eliminate overwhelm. Right?
Kimberley Borgens:I think that, you know, that's that's a key piece. Anything else you wanna add, Sarah, before we close out this session?
Sarah Reiff-Hekking:I think the most important thing for people to take away from this is that you need to ask yourselves, why do I wanna manage my time, and what's really the most meaningful and important use of my time? That's what all good time management starts with. And I think it's the question we forget to ask ourselves most often because we're so busy just doing what's in front of us.
Kimberley Borgens:Yeah. I think that's great. So thank you so much for that, Sarah, as we wrap up. Look. Like I said, Sarah is on Facebook, Instagram, LinkedIn.
Kimberley Borgens:You can connect with her there. You can go to truefocuscoaching.com just to see what what she's about. Truefocuscoaching.com/apply/ if you want to book a strategy session with her to see if you might be a good candidate to work with Sarah and get your time management figured out, especially if you're a realtor or, an attorney who you know, that's high overwhelm, high paced, jobs. Like, why not, you know, get some support from somebody who has mastered this technique for you and your industry. So make sure that you stay tuned for, or come back for the next episode.
Kimberley Borgens:Subscribe to our podcast. Give us some feedback. You know, give us a review. Open to hearing that, And, share on your social if this was a a good podcast for you that you think you know somebody, you know the person who needs a little time management help. You know, share this podcast with them this episode, and, and join us for our next one.
Kimberley Borgens:We're gonna be talking with a gal who, talks about how to be extraordinary in your business. So you won't wanna miss her. So join us back, for our next episode, and thank you so much, Sarah Rife Hecking, for for joining us today here on Superheroes in Heels. Have a blessed day.
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