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Dive into the heart of Rocky with hosts Ryan, Katie, and Kyle on One More Round: The Rocky Series Podcast! We react to the Creed 3 trailer (predictable but Jonathan Majors steals it?), discuss why Sly's absence might mean a time jump (or worse?), and break down the legendary training montage—from sunrise jogs and meat punching to one-arm push-ups and the iconic Philadelphia steps run. Plus, the emotional peak: Rocky's vulnerable "I can't beat him" confession to Adrian, where he redefines success as simply going the distance. This isn't just about winning—it's about proving you're more than "just another bum from the neighborhood." We cover fun trivia (reverse-filmed steps dance, wrong shorts on the banner!), behind-the-scenes stories, and why this scene makes Rocky timeless. If you're a Rocky fan, this episode hits hard with analysis, laughs, and inspiration.
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it's another side that like wants to take more wants to go that one more
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round because like going in one more round when you don't think you
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can that's what makes all the difference in your life you know what I mean
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[Music]
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welcome to another episode of one more round the rocky series podcast I'm your host Ryan and with me today is Katie and
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Kyle how are you two doing today fabulous how are you good crushing
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depress I mean yeah I'm doing good I'm doing I'm doing great can't be better before we get rolling has anyone seen
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the Creed 3 trailer did anybody watch it by chance Katie did you watch it I did you both watched it okay Katie what is
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your thoughts on the trailer overall I would say looks pretty predictable
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however I think it'll be good I think it will be an enjoyable watch because of
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Jonathan Majors I think he is the reason to watch this like his character he is
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just going to steal every scene I in my opinion he's the reason to go to the movie I'm a big fan of little Tony he
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reprises his role the storyline looks where they are and the daddy daughter
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and it's all pretty predictable but I think it will be enjoyable I don't know if I will go to the theater for it but
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yeah it'll be fine my general feeling as I watched it is I felt good like I'm
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like oh this is interesting wasn't rolling my ey or I wasn't disappointed that you know you don't see Sly in it of
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course I actually felt good so that was good it passed that test uh my first
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impression was it gave me a bit of a Rocky 3 Vibe you have the the champion
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he I think it's uh you say seven years or something like that he he said it was
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a long time so he'd been winning fights and you know he's come on 10 title defenses or whatever and you have this
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guy who just recently gets out of jail just hardened and tough and he want he's
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hungry and he wants it bad that guy kind of gave me a little bit of a clubber
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Vibe although there's a big difference because they know each other and they were initially getting along but it has
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a lot of the same themes of Rocky 3 that I I see which I did say about the last Creed film too but I think it'll be okay
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and never go to the theater Katie M mention going maybe not going to the theater I've been to the theater I think
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once since the pandemic started so I might just go see it in the theater
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because I haven't been in so long I you have not seen it have you no I haven't watched the trailer I've seen a little
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bit of headlines people's comments here and there and there's a reason I don't watch trailers in general I just I don't
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seek out trailers even with actors or movies that I'm especially movies that I'm interested in seeing so I'll rarely
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watch a trailer because either a already know like for example Brad Pitt's latest film uh bullet train I'm a huge Brad Pit
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fan but and I haven't seen the trailer for it I just know I'm going to watch it like I already know I'm going to watch it when it's on streaming like I think it's actually coming on streaming very
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soon so that's how I operate so films or actors where I already know I'm going to
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see it I don't want to see any spoilers footage anything so Creed 3 Believe It or Not people despite my reservations or
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SL up being and I've always said I was going to see the film I've never not said I was there are people in the Rocky
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Camp who refuse I won't say any names but people close to our Network other
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podcast host of other podcasts that's the only hints I'll give they've been very even some of the guest hosts I've had on my show some notable names they
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are vocal about screw this I'm not going to watch it and I'm like you say that
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but there's no way you can be a rocky fanatic and still not see this film it's
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like the Andor series on Disney plus right now but anyways the point I'm trying to say is that it's a Star Wars Universe film but it doesn't have Luke
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doesn't have Darth Vader in it maybe or whatever doesn't have Han Solo or whoever but people still watching
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because they enjoy the Universe I would be very surprised if some of these hardcore Rocky nuts never ever watch
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Creed 3 hate watch it sure you can hate watch it and that's the thing is and I've said before again I want it to do
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well I don't understand there's again there's people in the Rocky camp that almost want it to fail I think they're the same people that aren't going to
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watch it my hope is is that it does do well critically and at the box office
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because it is still part of the rocky Universe like people will see this and they'll still say hm I've seen all three
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Creed films now I'm bored I want to go watch the rocky films and there was there was people that saw Creed one and
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two who did not see the rocky films who went back and watched the rocky films so there's people there Michael B audience
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fans who saw the rocky films after watching Creed because Creed was so good
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Creed's one and two were enjoyable films the people actually went back again and watch the rocky films imagine if the
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Creed film sucked people would be like well I don't want to watch this Rocky guy cuz these films suck so you want cre
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3 overall to do well now it will be interesting not seeing Sly obviously the
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seven-year jump I didn't even know about it again I've heard people talk so it's like it's sort of spoilers for me
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because I I purposely don't watch trailers I don't want to know anything but it's it's so hard to avoid any kind of like chatter so I heard about the
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seven-year jump so I think the reason why there's a seven-year jump it's twofold as if as my guess I don't know
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if the trailer shows anything regarding Rocky but my my guess is is Rocky is dead in this universe there's a time
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Jump which would in Rocky's lifespan is he still alive at the age of 84 85 that
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he'd be in this universe he probably cancer probably got him or something so I think it's enough of a jump to
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eliminates the Rocky this is why Rocky's not in the picture he is gone dead I hope not he is reference he ref it
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doesn't yeah he's referenced but I don't know I really hope that the I hope there's another reason I hope he's just
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like in Vancouver with Milo you know I hope that's why Sly was really pissed
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off on uh Twitter just Eran Winkler talked about this in previous episodes
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yeah I had this thought the other day when I saw the trailer say they did Kill the rocky character and someone leaked
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that to Stallone if that's what got him so pissed off it's a good theory yeah
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good I know Sly would never let Rocky die I think Sly always likes to have something in his back pocket just in
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case for later that why that's the vibe I get from him maybe maybe now but when
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he wrote Rocky 5 he wrote Rocky's death in that film it was actually the studio that stopped at Irwin Winkler because
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Irwin saw the money that you don't they told s you don't kill Batman you don't kill James Bond you don't kill Rocky
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that's that's what they told Sly in 1990 that's true but a lot has changed since then I you know I don't know what it is
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today but his feelings as a 45-year-old in 1990 were I'm done with this
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character yeah so enough that he was going to kill him on screen apparently he was going to die in the ambulance
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ride with Adrien holding him in the back of the ambulance that was the death scene he wrote it they filmed it or
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something they got close to it or something like John G was on board with it John G alvison everyone except for the studio or Winkler because they own
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the product so they can veto any idea that Sly has okay I'm looking forward to
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it it comes out in March I will be watching on streaming though I should have said that I won't be watching the theaters I'm not a theater guy in
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general I actually just went to the theaters as I say this the first time in a long time last week well it was my
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son's birthday in the middle of the month and he wanted to see Halloween with his old man you know he's a
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teenager goes dad you want to take me the Halloween movie cuz he likes watching those and he watched the the new Trilogy on streaming and I said yeah
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so I watched the final Halloween movie with them Halloween asked oh is this the last one with Jam Lee Curtis yeah it's
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over okay I only like the VIP part of the theater that's the only one I'll go to now yeah the theater was fairly empty
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cuz it was a middle of the day watch or whatever fun film by the way if you want to see it it if you like the Halloween
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films it's a fun original I think it might surprise people and I think some people were surprised because it doesn't
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have a lot of Michael Myers oh the reason why I liked it is because it was different in original I've already seen a 100 Michael Meer films in the sense of
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I get what he can do so it's kind of nice to see a different kind of twist on it why not they were Brave with this one
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and I actually appreciated their Brave take I thought I appreciate that appreciate it I got to step out for a
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second just get you guys just keep going okay while Kyle's stepping out Katie do you want us to read the one email we got
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we got one email certainly subject is Rocky versus Zombies hi there thanks for
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all the content sadly I've not been able to make the discords as I keep missing the reminders being in in UK but I'm
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enjoying it on YouTube or audible I'm a filmmaker emailed about lost Angel which
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I directed I also produced and edited parts of a zombie film hopefully you
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won't find this sacrilegious it's just a bit of fun as I was watching a bunch of zombie film for research I decided to
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have some editing fun with Rocky and attached a two-minute video wishing you all the best and thanks for the great
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podcast kind regards Simon Drake oh my god did he put together like a rocky zombie it's pretty clever I think he
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combined I'll explain it for audio listeners but for those who are interested if you come to our in the
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show notes there's a link to our Facebook page and there'll be a link to our Twitter account I'm going to post this video for Simon in those respective
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yeah so and I thought about even showing for the YouTube viewers but I was like H cuz then it'll play out for the yeah
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it's hard to explain it won't translate okay so what it is I'll set up the scene here what it is for our audio listeners
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is it's Rocky running in Rocky 2 and he's edited the sound effects of zombies
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for the kids so when the kids are chasing Rocky through the street it's zombie sounds and it's scary music it
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looks like it sounds like the kids are zombies chasing after Rocky and then he intercut scenes from World War Z I think
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with the zombies running through the streets with the aerial cam shot it shows zombies kind of running fast
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through the streets so he edited World War Z with the sounds and effects from
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that film and then when Rocky gets to the top of the stairs and he's like cheering and the
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kids are around around him he just he inserted the audio edit of zombies eating people and Rocky
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screaming so that oh my God that's cute that's a cute idea yeah it's funny it's not Sac religious at all I do not
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worship at the altar of Rocky where he created memes throughout the years yes it's fun it's fun to make fun of things
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that you love so it's a very Halloween esque as Halloween approaches us very soon here I will share it again on our
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Twitter and on our Facebook and Simons yeah he's a he's a filmmaker he listens
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he watches Us on YouTube too which is this all makes me feel like I've gotten so much less ambitious as I'm getting
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older and I'm like God that seems like a lot of work you know well that's his job editing and working on Films so he just
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did a little uh little thing like that so good for him appreciate you listening Simon we appreciate everyone that's in our Discord we'll give a shout out to
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everyone in our Discord we got about I think seven or eight people I think watching us live as we record again join
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our Discord it's free you get to watch us all the pre-edit stuff so to speak the mistakes you know Kyle's shutting
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his camera things like that all the stuff that I edit out for the iTunes show also watch us on YouTube because if
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you go to YouTube you get to see the scenes that we're reacting to so you get to see and watch like a watch along with
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us like a video commentary so you get to watch that on YouTube if that interests you but a lot of people know the film so well they can almost just visualize it
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as they hear it and I'm surprised YouTube never blocks itz it's not like you're playing the whole film right you're just playing parts of it you're
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right I'm not showing the whole film on you know unaltered and blocking isn't like you're getting in trouble it's just there's algorithms on YouTube that if
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you play something long enough to like oh you're not supposed to that's that's copyright claimed or something so you'll
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get a claim which is fine the claim just means the company gets all the ad Revenue so they're like yeah you can
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show our show on TV that's how reaction videos do it if you show our music on your YouTube channel reacting to it
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that's fine knock your socks but we're taking the ad Revenue that's how they work that out so that was our email oh
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yeah we've got a couple new patrons we want to thank uh our new patrons that have joined and are giving me some help
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and I appreciate that it does pay for the feed that I use monthly to get these shows from the last of the action heroes
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podcast Network out there and it gives me a couple bucks and buys me a cup of
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coffee for the hours of editing I do every week for this entertainment that
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you guys enjoy hopefully that you enjoy okay so I do appreciate it appreciate it that's it this cre 3 news Jennifer and
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Sly are still together I have something that I would like to Showcase thanks to
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this network hang on I have something oh live show here folks what the you see oh
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yeah oh human biss cool that is a is that a John rivy painting yes that is
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gorgeous I've seen that but you got so explain how that got to your uh explain how that c your hands I have been
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talking like incessantly about how much I love butt kiss and that part of the film and we just covered that scene and
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then John rivy posted that he he' recently done a butt kiss piece of art yes and shared it on this Show's
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Facebook Channel I was like oh my God I think I I think I might need to buy that one I went I bought it there's multiple
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sizes my sister literally texted me as I was completing my order she's like I
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think I need that so she ordered it too wow good for you good for you for supporting John and his incredible
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artwork and it's a beautiful painting it's my favorite one I mean I love all the other ones but I I love that scene in particular and also you get like a
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[ __ ] ton of royalties from that right I'm I'm teasing yes that's right uh the one more round podcast a kick gets can
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you imagine all proceed somebody goes towards John and his incredible talented artwork and that's a beautiful painting
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good size too I can see why you would obviously love that You' being a big fan of that type of dog and animals in
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general and Rocky being an animal lover it's perfect for you absolutely yeah I want to get one of him punching meat in
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The Meat House I want slaughtered meat I want to all right well this is exciting we
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are now going into today's basically the training sequence day this is a big recording day but before we get to that
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we have a little bit of a moment of rocking the ring with Mickey okay now when you walk into the ring for the
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number one heavy weight of the world you'll be ready won't you why because I
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waited for 50 years to make you it you'll be able to spit Nails kid did he
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say 50 years and Rocky's a department when he's talking about how long he's been in this racket for was it 50 okay
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he's 76 years old so he's 26 he's been waiting since he was 26 years old to get
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Rocky ready for this fight makes sense he's been destined to do this all the
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knowledge that he's accumulated since over the last 50 years has now culminated into him being able to train
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his Protege someone with the talent to beat Creed and I think Mickey isn't
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bullshitting he I think he really believes that Rocky's going to do well Gates Creed yeah that's an interesting point
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and I think it's something it's not talked about a lot when it comes to the rocky discussion and you don't hear very much but I think Mickey unlike the
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audience and maybe well we know Rocky later in the film incredible low in the ring sequence is that Mickey I think
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truly believes that and he's right that Rocky does have the ability and the heart to beat Apollo it just wasn't
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enough I think had they been given a proper amount of training I wonder if the results would have been different imagine that they were able to condition
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Rocky from the beginning whatever it is you need 10,000 Minutes or whatever that is
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that you know how much yeah for 45,000 minutes or 45 minute fight 45,000
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minutes 45,000 yeah if you want to blow a kid I'll do with you I'll do it with you
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okay but will this fight has to have the perfect combination of Rocky taking it seriously and Creed not taking it
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seriously or it to be close that's true too yes that took it seriously in Rocky
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2 Rocky got the beat out of him you got beat up really bad the
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edit and and got knocked out at the end cuz he got greedy and want The Knockout
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that's right yeah in part two you had a still a peak yeah we'll get to that now those are rocky two discussion we're
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going to head ever so but I just love how Mickey 50 years have been waiting for this okay like the guy says he going to
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eat lightning and you're going to crap funder like the guy says you're the only one that says this Mickey yeah yeah
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who's he talking about if that's something he heard someone say back in the day like that's a guy known only to
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Mickey some guy in some gym back in like the 30s or 40s or something like that plus we're missing some
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famous yeah there might be a saying from an actor or some sort of sports caster or some sort of yeah boxer fighter
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trainer back in the day that would say this they just credit him as the guy like so they might have been yeah maybe
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people can let us know there's yeah everybody's in such a good mood
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oh he's he's a stattic rocky you can kind of see Rocky you can see him smiling there Michael he's super happy
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we sure that's Mike we sure it could be his twin brother Jimmy it could be and Mickey he's in a good mood like we're at
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really the peak confidence in high here that's a good point yeah Mickey's just loving this to make your you'll be able
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to spit Nails kid like the guy says you're going to eat lightning and you're going to crap thunder you're want to
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become a very dangerous place Mickey Hey Oh Rock I want you to meet our cutman
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here Al of Annie take a look at his eye how you doing now that's right ain't bad
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seeing worse you ain't so bad yourself you know cover up things will be okay cover up things will be okay what's he
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talking about there is he talking about blocking or you talking about the Vaseline or I don't know blocking with his hands don't have someone repeatedly
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hit you in that eye for 45 minutes without he's trying to defend yourself
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L's advice which is good advice it's good advice I wish Rocky would take that advice at some point in his boxing career blocking yeah is it this L guy my
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memory is failing me is he in them is he the cut man throughout yeah yes I forget how deep he
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goes but he's a real cutman in real life by the way yeah wasn't he even in did he even come back in Creed or was that a
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different guy no I don't by Creed I think yeah Stitch was there Stitch was
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uh Mason Dixon's quarter man in bboa and right okay Rocky's quter man in Creed I
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know for sure Al saani goes up to Rocky 3 I don't know if he's there in Rocky
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four I think he is and then five no I bet Rocky podcast would know this kind of stuff yes they would look this stuff
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up the rocky files would know this stuff I've always going to credit them they would know this stuff we don't know what
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we're talking about you going take a shower with you okay okay I see
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youor and they're Jazz C they're so ecstatic they're jazzed he's got the
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love of his life he's got his dog he's training for the fight the champion he's feeling a little bit more confident Mickey's all excited love this little
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chitchat here with Mick in the the cutter you cover that Whit more fight Whit more fight that's why he won listen
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we got a winner here we got a chance now he goes to the party like nobody you've ever seen you just stand by one we're
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going to win you just stand by we're going to win so I mean to be fair to Mickey he has seen
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a lot of Fighters he's seen a lot of different types of he understands the business you know not a [ __ ] up here
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they was a gift to you you know so he's got a lot of stuff up there so he sees a true true champion with in Rocky and
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he's right it's just not quite yet Tim said that Al is not in Rocky 4 Rocky 3 was his last turn thank you okay so
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there you go a better podcaster did figure it out that was Tim from the round 14 podcast so thank you Tim there
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you go so we we have we have real professionals that are chat from other other
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shows we appreciate it okay so now Rocky is uh hitting The Punchy bag of course
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this is when Paulie comes in they have their little makeup
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meeting hey Rob it's okay I talk to you okay you talk to me
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sure I figured some man going have make some money off your name my name how's that advertis I know about
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that stuff what do you know about advertising
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huh hey you can make money off my name make it okay now it's an interesting little pause there because of course
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they had their big fight this was probably the first they obviously have spoken since that incident and now
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Paul's you know obviously hat and hand literally saying hey can we talk and Rocky's like sure you can talk to me you
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want to talk the little pause I just noticed it between cuz it looks like Paulie's been trying to be serious like I can make money off your name or I can
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you know advertise I know about the stuff and Rocky kind of does a little bit of a DI like what do you know about advertising and I don't think he was even trying to really be funny I think
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it was kind of serious too he's like Paul what do you know and then he sees a little bit of the pain in Paulie's eyes
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like that kind of stung like oh he's serious and he goes okay if you want to make money off my name go ahead so he
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actually lightened up a little bit like you could tell the first comment is like what do you know about advertising it was a little bit more of an attack than the J you know than a friendly J I think
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it was a little bit more like serious and then he saw poly go oh Rocky light and said oh if you want to make money off my name make it okay this is
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probably as far as we know the first time they've spoken since he smashed his own house up and the T set such a huge
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scene that he forced Adrien out of her her own house he came kind of hat in
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hand but he didn't in the way that he he asked something from him right like it's
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not an apology it's not like hey let's work things out it's like hey can I have something from you imagine if you and I
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got in a big fight on the podcast and then I was like hey Ryan let see if I can make some money off your podcast I
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know about those things I know about that stuff like that is a weird Fair
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basically these are two guys these are stereotypical 7s guys they don't talk
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about their feelings they don't do any of that [ __ ] right this is their way of making up without actually talking about
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it Paulie's saying hey if you I could you do me this favor I think that's his way of
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saying one he actually does want to make money but two it's his way of saying do you forgive me are things okay between
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us when Rocky gave him [ __ ] like how would are you knowable to advertise and that's kind of Rocky saying no and then
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lightning up and saying yes and it helps that Rocky's coming off this scene before where he's in such a good mood
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like Paulie caught him at a great time good point good point yeah I'm going to take the shot oh yeah you want to help
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me off with these you can see how how rocky to is not very
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shrewd as Paul as Mickey would point out because it's not like hey I can make
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some money off your name if I'm Rocky I'd be like look if you're making money off my name I want a piece it is my name
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after all like we're going to split this you do the work to make it happen if you're doing it off my name I want half
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or whatever it is but Rocky's just doesn't become a good businessman until three yeah
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yeah who was handling Rocky's finances in part three because they were doing a good job they should have stayed with him could have been that guy all along
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like that guy could have been doing stuff with this money the whole time because in with Rocky 5 that guy was uh
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was buying real estate in Rocky's name and trying to flip it so weird it's so stupid and we'll talk about that we get
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that all right well we're about to get into what I'm going to do there folks is I I'm gonna I am going to mute the whole
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soundtrack to this part because that would get blocked Andor claimed on YouTube and it is all music soundtrack
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so there's no there very little point in me playing the music for the audio listeners while we try to talk about the training sequence here the Montage but
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we're going to keep the video up so we can talk to what Rocky's doing but everyone that's everyone's seen this a thousand times just go on YouTube and
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watch it watch us on YouTube talk about it but I'm just going to mute it here's what I'm talking about okay we all know going to fly is
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playing but there's no point me playing that all the way through cuz it's just it's all soundtrack stuff okay it's a
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brilliant shot too what you have it paused on the be the opening sequence of this it's the with the sun coming up and
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the industrial nature of it it's just brilliant how they did it love it totally agree it is a great little shot and there's the train again is it moving
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they got the moving train I've missed that moving train all this time they get so many of the trains in these uh shots
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throughout the film so they they timed it again it's almost like they got the train moving camera rolling and well
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camera's probably already rolling you know slide starts running when the train starts moving and I don't think it wasn't until my first Going the Distance
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podcast when my brother and I I can't remember if it was even Reuben that was doing this episode with me it might have been Kyle or do you remember who if you
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were on this one or not Kyle I don't I don't recall okay but it wasn't until we watched it like the scene by scene that
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we realized that Rocky was holding bricks in his hand it wasn't until that viewing I know it's in obvious for a lot of other people yeah it's a great little
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lens flare we don't see see that often back is weird watching it without the music holy [ __ ] it's a funny thing on
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YouTube where you can actually watch the rocky Montage without music it's quite of funny just listening to someone did
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the sound effects for Rocky throughout the jogging and the running it's just what it would sound like if you just saw
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him running through the streets God it really showcases how important the music is by not having it and it's so not
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effective at all without the music yeah it is kind of funny so here he's running through I think this is called Little
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Italy or Italian alley or something like that when I go to Philly next time I'm coming there for sure if it's not part
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of kunda tour I'm just going to go on my own I wonder if they still have markets if it's still like a street Marketplace
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I would assume something to that effect yeah it's probably not as dirty there's probably less fire barrels too yeah okay
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so there's that cost me an Apple there though there's an orange Apple I think it's an orange now as we all know of
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course but there might be a couple listeners who don't know this like your friend for example Katie Kim Kim how are you doing that fruit toss that Sly gets
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from that gentleman was unplanned it was that was a candid moment as they say
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that was not scripted the guy just tossed the unknown Stallone at the time
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a fruit as he's going for his run through the neighborhood hey you want want to snack while you're running I love that kind of
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stuff it wouldn't have been as good if you didn't if you didn't plan it it is amazing it's yeah can I interview that
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yeah that guy who threw that fruit he dead he's PR dead he dead dead and he waves I love that little cursory wave
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that Sly gives again not the rocky character that's just slide hey thanks for the fruit then he goes back to you know kind of character jogging with the
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fruit in his hand more sh SCE said they just jogged all day like the nice part of Philly now too I thinking the exact
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same thing KY I was like it's interesting how they start off in a really rough dirty industrial place and
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then it ends on this really Scenic byway along the river it is a nice little part
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yeah that's probably all gross and stuff now that Waterway I wonder I believe Nixon who created the EPA the
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Environmental Protection Agency so this is it would have just started around this time there were times in the United
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States where you can light a river on fire because people were just and Canada
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too I'm sure I don't mean to pick on the US but uh where people just dump chemicals and stuff in the water and
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there's a chance it could be just as nice or if not nicer okay that's good so of course uh Rocky SL Sly working that
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speed bag that's not acting that's Sly literally hitting I've tried hitting speed bags of course because I'm a big
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fan of rock throughout the years I've been around a couple speed bags in my journeys of life and Ryan don't have coordination like that I'm sure had to
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practice a lot you know that movie The Hurricane with Denzel Washington seen the one time yeah the very first scene
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of that movie is him in a boxing match is Ruben Hurricane Carter and they were
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interviewing Denzel on that and they said hey you look pretty good you were fighting pretty well did you box for and
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he said no he trained for a year to do that scene and they're like how can you put so much time and effort into doing
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that one scene he's like well that's the initial scene of the movie like that's not convincing the rest of the movie isn't he kind of behooves Rocky or sorry
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Sly to really practice and get good at some of these things or else cuz like imagine if you had a guy that sucked at
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the bag it wasn't quite yeah like you either wouldn't put it in or it' be unconvincing like he kind of has to put
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a lot of effort into it I think he's proud of his skills in that Arena and so
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you see it quite a bit in the training sequences throughout the movies but he's always been um boxing fan and so I I
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would imagine that he's no stranger to boxing as just like workouts and stuff
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but yeah the Rhythm rhythm is good really good he's kept it through all the films and was it Sugar Ray or somebody
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said that had slide chosen just to be a boxer in his weight class you know if that was just something he dedicated his
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life to he could have he could have been a contender yeah he probably would have been all right because it looks like he
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can really hit the bag you know when they show these scenes like that's him hitting a heavy bag that's not a fake
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bag the guy could really SWAT it's true because his actual cuz he is a little clumsy like he's he has has rhythm with
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his hands but like his footwork is not great that's a part three when he starts listening when he starts listening to jungle music he'll be able to oh that
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dance sequence I can't wait my favorite playlist on iTunes is the jungle music
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jungle junk jungle junk jungle junk jungle junk music um I'm moving on sorry
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to the sequence where he's doing the one arm push-ups you guys like I would fall on my face I wouldn't even attempt it I
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can do real push-ups like not girl ones but everything in this film I've attempted just because of my fandom of
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Rocky and I think I pulled off one really really bad one arm push-up it was really bad wow I think the one arm
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pushup is as much coordination as it is strength balance look at his left leg
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that's way out there and he's he's on the tip of his right foot and then his left foot is against the the mat there
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then switching between the two that's pretty tough like that's a Core workout as much as it is an arm workout the
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placement of the feet is very important yep he does yoga too I I bet you at the leg muscle there it's a good shot there
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of his leg muscle mm are you okay there Kitty ready to move on I mean I will be yeah let's
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yep he does the claps now he does one hand clap clap clap this scene here
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where he's getting hit with the medicine ball right was reading in a book he
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asked the whatever the guy's name is we'll save Michael they hit him as hard as he could with that medicine ball and
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he said that almost killed him you see him taking that he said he felt like his insides were just destroyed he likes to
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exaggerate but yeah hurt he's like for part one my
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insides were all turned to mashed potato but for part four I almost died thanks to Drago I love it for part three he
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said that the uh whatever that real boxer punched him in the left arm and it's paralyzed him both Joe Frasier and
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Ernie Shavers beat him up when they were auditioning to be clubber laying I love Sly but Sly is a good story tell her for
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a reason both on and off screen if you know what I'm saying you know he knows how to there's a great picture of Sly
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with a cut over his eye with Joe Frasier Joe Frasier cut him really bad in that addition and you could see Joe just
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being like like hear you know Sly is a a fantastic guest
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on um like Late Show talk shows late shows or whatever in contrast so I think
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people love because he's a good Storyteller and he tells good behind the scenes stories like that in contrast to
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Robert dairo who is like notoriously the worst interview ever I love them both their brothers some people just are
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boring boring yeah s is a very fun interview yeah he always has been he's always been very good on quick on his
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feet excuse the pun he's a bit extroverted I think too yeah I think if you're a really introverted person you
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probably don't interview well good point these upside down sit-ups where he like bends his back in half over that
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ringside or whatever that I don't know if that could be good for the back it doesn't look uh it's not it's not not good for your body it's because of his
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control he has to already have an intense core strength to be able to do that stop before you go too far it's
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insane back to the meat factory so it's showing again that the meat factory punching of the meat with his bandaged
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hands is a daily that's part of his workout he does this rotation of morning
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jog the sequence of events are kind of Av but it starts with the morning jog pounding meat then he goes to the gym
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the next day morning jog howy meat gets his breakfast Adrian Adrian make the meat go to the gym back to the 1hour
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push-ups let's keep showing the same things over and over again they do it's funny without the music it's not as
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catching up with the chat um Ryan Kyle and Katie push-up contest now that's a show Tim and then was that part of
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Ryan's training hugging a man on a beach maybe maybe Ryan and I next time we see each other we can recreate that yeah we
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could do like me and Kyle on the Beast and we could do like me and Katie like I'm afraid ktie what do you want to
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say a boring part I wish I was as good as Apollo that I could like be you run I
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guarantee you run faster than me you can probably do more push-ups as well I'm not a very good push-up guy I'm really not but I'm actually have horrible
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push-up strength but I can run I have decent push-up strength but I can't run so I got gaps you got gaps together we
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fill gaps I love this line that Mickey says after his one arm push-up deal he goes
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you're going to kill him thought Mike said that oh that's right s Mike said that that's right and he does the okay
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sign I love that it's good that he's confident but he's he's a bit in a dream world right now I forget what it's
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called you can look at it it's a certain graph when you're learning something new like when you initially initially start
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doing it your assessment of your abilities is way off like you feel like
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you're like say you're learning Spanish or something like that and you could throw together a few phrases you like think that you can
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speak Spanish and then you're get to a point where like you start talking to someone and they throw something at you
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and you don't understand a word and then you just like you kind of get brought back down to reality I feel like Rocky he started off
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where he was winded going up the stairs and was kind of low but then now he's he's training and he's getting stronger
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and he's getting good he's kind of in that nice little fantasy State there where he feels like he could keep like
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just beat up anybody the Bell part of the confidence curve Yeah Yeah in our
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chat someone said a shotgun Asus say they think it might be called pink Cloud
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now it's close pink cloud is a syndrome that can be attributed to feelings of increased self-esteem yes but after a
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person has undergone a period of sobriety so it's close but that effect though of the brain of thinking I can do
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this maybe your brain is a little bit more your heart I should say is not quite in line with your actual ability
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it's great to have confidence not only do I want a confident heart surgeon I want somebody who's confident too
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confidence can only go so much like I'm very confident I can cut you open fix your heart but do you know how that's
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kind of the other question that a thing he does with the three fingers and the uh that's actually
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sign for 666 sign of the Beast just so you know why that's weird it's big in
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Hollywood and a lot of people like honestly there are people who are conspiracy theorist who would see Rocky do this and say they're Sly showing that
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he has sold his soul to the devil to become famous for this film I'm not even joking oh my God people come on you know
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what we didn't do oh never mind I just realized my brain I swear my memory is
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total [ __ ] I was like we didn't do trivia because we're done with trivia that's why we didn't I thought that too
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and I'm like oh yeah we finished it I'm like all I have to care about is how many times people say bum it's only one
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thing to worry about now yeah now this is a great shot here of course everyone's very familiar with this shot
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of there's the movie van that's driving and it's filming Rocky and the SE cam I assume would be in the van cuz that
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would eliminate any of the Jon of the vehicle right so this is a great shot you got a city cam in a van almost out the window here filming Sly running and
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you know the rocky character but this is and usual ship behind him too yeah it's
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really it's like he beats it it wasn't that part of the effect he like tries to race the ship also he's still in these
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shoes how his feet have to just kill that's what Apollo can't do Apollo he
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gets the right shoes he gets the right everything and it makes you a little soft and then there's the little plaque
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thing at the top now that has like the imprints of those shoes on the steps here if you go to the steps today let's
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just go back cuz I love the sequence here of him running up the stairs right and the music not P this time oh he's
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loving it the city cam as you know we got brown I think his name is Jim Brown going around Sly here I love that
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walking behind Sly and okay I'm behind you arms up I guess there must been some sort of signal to Sly okay cuz you can't
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see okay we're right behind you put the arms up it's a great sequence film this a few times too I don't know how much
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they would have you're right I don't know if this was one take only we do know this was filmed the same I think it
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was you K Mission this or somebody mentioned this that Doug did who was it Doug that's right Doug the other smart
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residents of her show Doug from the rocky minute said that when they did the slow run why he's wearing the same shoes
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there KD to when he did the slow run up the stairs then they okay reset and then now this is the same morning with the
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sunrising now they're doing the um the fast run of the stair so how many takes they do probably not a lot because they would have to keep the same lighting for
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you know the sunrise yeah I hate knowing stuff like this I hate knowing that this was done on the same day it's hard to
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keep the imagination and the suspension of disbelief going I want to think that he's trained and now he ran up that
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because he's strong good acting on size part he pretended to be in pain and hurt when he ran up those stairs okay reset and he ran up the stairs right after I
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think it's kind of funny actually but yeah it's called acting I I love this area of Philadelphia if you ever go to
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run up the steps visited Philly I walked from the steps here to downtown oh wow
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it's a cool walk they have like the flags from like every country in the world you'll see it in Rocky 2 when he
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he runs there from like Independence Hall but look forward to going there one day we will go there we will have a a
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meeting at the top of the stairs and we have to go to Adrian's is that the real name of the restaurant Victor's Cafe I
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think is what the name yeah that's right Victor's Cafe the shots here I just can't give them enough credit the
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gorgeousness of the sky line with the sun coming up and just knowing that it was such a gorilla style filming and
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then they and then now the opposite shot from the bottom up to the museum I mean
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it's just like such 1976 I just very much appreciate the
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older time mechanisms for filming than everything now it's easy to forget the
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time this is just some random place the reason this place has significant to to a lot of people is because of this film
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no one would know what these steps unless you're from Philly otherwise like Katie was saying like they have like the random gorilla type of film making where
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the guy had the invention of the steady cam they found these random stairs somewhere and they made something cool
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out of it it became iconic and people running up down little steps for decades
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afterwards that's a huge huge accomplishment somebody from Philly that's old enough to know let us know
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but it's maybe I'm guessing it's there are certain places in a City that are known to be really good spots to watch
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the sun come up and see the city skyline or whatnot so maybe the museum is known for that and that's why they did it
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there but either way I would venture to Guess that outside of Philly people would not know this Museum without the
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movie I would never know why would I ever know about the Philly steps if it wasn't for Rocky there'd be no reason I
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think you guys know the trivia that's coming up if you don't let me know how they film this part I don't know what
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you're referring to okay so watch Rocky dance down top of the steps here it's in reverse the filming is in Reverse
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oh this right here is actually them zooming back so they filmed it zooming
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back so the every movement you see Rocky do here is actually in Reverse they started close to him and then Zoom back
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but we're zooming in so all these movements are in Reverse watch you can kind of tell how his legs look funky when he's doing the little dance on the
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steps yes it is that's why I didn't know that Ryan that is a super interesting
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fun fact thank you that's why I'm here you know hey I like to just pause on here you see his face like that which
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part sorry when they do the closeup on his face which part right here okay just
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right here did you imagine this this is such a weird but also cool thing it's
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like he does not look like the hero of a movie right like his face like this they
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do the closeup you have this guy in sweats the hat like he looks like some schmuck it does yeah it's a terrible
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outfit it does nothing for his gorgeous figure that look on his face looks so bad it's cool just because he's he's
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Rocky and it's it's iconic and classic right but if like this was being pitched to me before I knew the movie was famous
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I'd be like why are we liking this guy you kind of have to know him before and
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and become connected to the character but this is what I love about the film you don't have like a Brad Pit kind of
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guy doing this right I'm not saying sly's ugly but he looks a little ugly in this particular shot it's not
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conventional handsomeness so to speak that Sly has in these films and other you know his ha you know in this 35 to
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45 age range the when he was the manliest men that during that time was his character what we knew of Sly
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outside the films like he's a like likable person and the rocky character itself so those things do ingratiate
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themselves but yes if you just to show this one still right here to anyone who's never seen Sly or the film they
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like is that a special needs person who just ran up the steps yeah exactly like he's even quite a bit
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more handsome in other scenes in this film it's just this particular scene
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just the way he looks there like like what you said like the special needs or whatever yeah if you showed someone just
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this FR without any context whatsoever they'd be like this would not be iconic
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why is this iconic but it is and it is sad too because a lot of people make fun of Rocky they like oh y Adrian like yeah
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of course they they kind of only see this like this is their view of Rock and they kind of refuse to see anything else
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well they're sternal B we don't need them I find him extremely handsome shocking right news flash but he's not
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conventionally if this were made today it'd be like I can see like Henry caval he's very similar looking but Henry
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caval is like a perfect looking very conventionally handsome you need him to
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not be perfect looking to believe the whole story if they were to recast Rocky
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while the could even do it now cuz the ACT I'm about to say I think is even probably still too old but let's say if they rebooted Rocky 10 years ago let's
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say the guy that plays The Punisher in the Netflix series uh Joel benth what's
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his name I can't say his name Bern John Bernthal Bernthal I think he's got the
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mushed up kind of nose he looks like a punk fighter he was actually in Grudge Match with Sly he looks like a boxer
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yeah that would be a good he'd be a good recast if they recast he's too old now now but if they did it 10 years ago
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[Music] agree we know that Adrian and Rocky have
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moved in together and they've kind of personified and beautified the home a little bit we here we have here Rocky
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Marciano wearing the Santa beard and mustache love that why is that that's
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super random they're having fun Rocky and Adrian are having fun and I don't mean what you people might think I mean
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by that but I think they're generally just loving life yeah right like they found what's missing they're in a [ __ ]
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hole apartment but it doesn't matter when I first got married my apartment was a real piece of [ __ ] but it was ours
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right I have great memories there and it seems the same way to me you got the newspaper footage here it says Italian
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salion gets shot at title who got a shot at the title it's the greatest title in
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the whole world yeah here's the thing okay so anyway so uh there's a little
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bit of Christmas garland there too of course the train passing yeah okay
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Tempo magazine obviously this is supposed to be Time Magazine yeah I was just gonna say I didn't even realize it
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said Tempo on the back that is a huge deal like there was a guy I don't know if you've heard of him his name is
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Donald Trump and never heard of him he had a
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fake IM Magazine with his picture on it hung up at his Maro logo that's awesome
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I love it so that's how coveted Time Magazine picture is I love it it makes me laugh so much it makes me laugh Rocky
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is looking at the very things that we were looking at so he's looking at the news articles the Time Magazine he's
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seeing like oh boy he's starting to see all these articles and everyone's all happy for him we got a winner here we
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got a winner Here and Now Rocky's like oh boy yeah he's coming off that high that he had earlier not too long ago now
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it's like the reality is kind of setting in like you're on the cover of time you're in the newspaper you're going to be fighting
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the best fighter on the planet and not too long ago you were losing Club fights
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or barely winning them gosh I mean well somebody that is a fighter needs to tell us I mean just knowing how I am you know
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like the night before I have to give a big presentation or you know whatever it is in your world that would make you
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nervous can you imagine this scene right now like tomorrow you have to get up and
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fight the world Champion that's the worst part it's worse than the fight if I'm going on a business trip and I got
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to present towards like a board of directors or something like that a trip there is way worse than the actual
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presentation that you're giving like once you once I'm there in doing it I'm fine but the leadup to it is rough like
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the 24 hours before whatever and I imagine Rocky's he's he's experiencing the same
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thing he's he's coming back to Earth now maybe a little lower than he should be I
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don't think Mickey has the same anxiety for him that he has for himself but his
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anxiety is is somewhat Justified you're going to fight a class of fighter you've never faced before no one even remotely
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close the last guy he fought was Spider Rico I how many rounds spider would last with Apollo he'll just headbutt him
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that's true imagine spider fighting Rocky in this condition right oh it'd be a joke yeah yeah Kyle mentioned about
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Mickey is probably not having the same anxiety but if there're sort of sort of
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like a fatherson scenario I mean I would be like well of course he's not that nervous but you guys are fathers would
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you be I mean how would you be if this was your kid I'd be less nervous it's not me in the ring it's just the way it goes yeah yeah okay it's not you enter
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in the ring you'd be supportive you got this kid you got this because you don't want to say boy you must be nervous you
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know you don't want to talk about it you just don't even bring it up my wife has to do presentations and stuff like that
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too that she gets nervous for understandably so I don't I'm not nervous for her I'm confident in her
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it's way easier to be confident in someone else than yourself at least for me yeah true some people that have like
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a bizarre amount of self-confidence a lot of them are actually athletes you'll notice that with a lot of athletes
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they're just they really just believe in themselves so much I think that's what makes them so good at what they do Rocky
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does not fall into that camp but he makes it work anyway so I like the subtle prop thing here of the picture of
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Adrian and Rocky I love that picture you can find the picture online best yeah he's got that sweater I love that
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sweater it's his favorite nice sweaty war press conference for the picture with Adrian it's a special sweater they
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have Christmas cards up there it looks like that they must have got from people I don't know who so they're not sleeping
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together is it because there's not enough room on the bed which it is a very small bed is that's probably what it is it's not a very it's it's probably
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a twin looks like a single is a single single person bed okay so I don't know
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why it's called a twin that's weird oh twin does equal okay I think twin is because you're supposed to have two of
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them oh I see you can twin them up okay oh look at the nice plate on the wall
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yep I don't know how nice it is but yeah a lot nicer than a knife or whatever
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that he would have had before on the door wreath on the door yeah there's a Christmas wreath on the door they've
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really christmased it up they got the Christmas spirit going absolutely yeah I'm sure when Adrien first showed up
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there like she knew what it look like but then now that she has to live there she's probably okay I got to do some
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stuff women they got to Nest they got to mark their territory so to speak and
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that's exactly is that yeah okay have you moved into a guy's house
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Katie would you would you make some changes aesthetically to the place I've only lived with one boyfriend and he
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moved into my house so okay did he make any changes not really I mean a little
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like stuff us care I don't just give me my computer desk or the couch in front
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of the TV I don't okay well we'll say this say you and what's his face decide to get your own place together that you
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bought or whatever and you moved in there say he moves in there a day before you or two days before and start setting
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his stuff up I have a feeling you might make some changes typically women care more about daycor and stuff yeah yeah so
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here's a great shot here I love this shot time about shots of behind the shoulder of Rocky as he climbs into the
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ring looking at the Apollo the banner big banner of Apollo it's just a great shot of of empty Spectrum in this
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sequence in the the soundtrack is actually called alone in the ring that's actually what Bill KY titled this makes
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sense it is kind of interesting that Rocky had access to the Spectrum I'm sure the security guards like he comes
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up there he gets approached by security like holy [ __ ] this is Sly or we're not Sly this is Rocky he's on every
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newspaper and stuff he's famous he's like hey guys could I come take a look around I'm sure they'd say yeah sure
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it's a great little shot to of the steady cam of course being used Lots in this film so the steady cam Falls rock
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into the ring Rocky walks around the ring once cuz sorry the shot starts with
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him looking at the Apollo Banner we haven't as an audience seen the rocky Banner yet of course Rocky has he climbs
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into the ring does his move around the ring and now we're seeing with Rocky him
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W looking at it this huge life-size or sorry bigger than life-size painting of
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him I think it's great they got the Apollo one they nailed the Apollo one but they they really did not I don't know who they painted here for this
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painting was that on purpose because they really nailed Carl Weathers and they got the Rocky Face it's kind of oof
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it's cuz they didn't give a [ __ ] Rocky's a a prop basically in this show here no
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chance he'll be forgotten tomorrow it is a nice contrast though when we first see the scene it's a closeup of Apollo's
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poster and his face is just that million bucks I'm this huge star giant smile his
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sparkling eyes and then in contrast this like bum from the neighborhood yeah
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exactly I'm sure Rocky feels impostor syndrome big time I don't belong in this
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ring he's never got the attention where there's a banner of him up there for everyone to see like this is so foreign
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and surreal to him he's a bit in awe there's a bit of shock to his face like he's not in his element he's a fish out
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of water big time that's a great shot there you got Apollo behind Rocky almost like laughing mocking Rockie impactful
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shot agreed somehow Jurgens is lurking around weird again that jurin is there
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doing last minute whatever that's not his office his office isn't in the Spectrum so he's just yeah I don't know
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maybe he's making sure all of those like red white and blue Banners are appropriately placed it's a bit of a
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plot device having Jens walking to to make this scene happen as it does but we know why this scene took place now right
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does everyone like what they're about to say regarding the shorts I think it's obvious trivia that everyone knows okay all right well I assume everyone yeah
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well we'll sa for Kim maybe Kim doesn't know okay so for she probably doesn't so Kim you're going to hear Rocky mention
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the Jurgens that the painting's wrong that we'll explain why after Rocky what brings you here
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tonight Mr Jurgens the post is wrong what do you mean well I'm wearing white
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pants with a red stripe it doesn't really matter does it I'm sure you're going to give us a great
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show try to get some rest kid good night
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what does he mumbl there do he move his mouth Right There He Go like I wonder what he was thinking as he melt those
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words you see that Sly just I always wondered what he said to say kind of reminds me that scene of an office space
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you ever seen that movie Office Space where they're handing out the cake where Milton has a cake goes right by him
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every time he's mumbling on his breath that's what Sly was doing there he's doing the Milton mumble whatever it
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was to himself essentially taking in what Jurgen said yeah do matter guess I guess doesn't matter I'll put on a good
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show so for Kim for our one listener who doesn't know so what happened was Kim is the prop Department really did get this
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wrong they painted they only had a limited budget they only had one pair of shorts for Sly and his shorts are white
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with a red stripe but when they painted it they put it a red with a white stripe on the shorts so they wrote the scene in
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or at least that dialogue in maybe they had the alone the ring scene might have always been there the dialogue regarding the poster being wrong they they wanted
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to address it to the audience to those Keen eyes who would see that his shorts were wrong so they talked about it in
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the film so there you go another moment where the gorilla lowbudget shooting
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style of the film actually benefits the movie works out yeah after this point they're not gonna give a [ __ ] about
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continuity or anything like that they're gonna really stop caring
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about pissing off the people who are really into the show hey uh Adrian uh
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how come our kids 15 now it doesn't really matter Rock we'll put on a good
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show she going to give us a great show matter does it uh also maybe this is a a girl
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mentality but I'm curious if anyone else I have always thought why did they
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choose white with a red stripe because red with a white stripe is much more appealing it's better I don't know I'm
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not very good at a color stuff I I don't see that stuff I hear you but I I don't see it that's a cost because white gets
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bloody and gross like e blood yeah it might have yeah you're right that if I
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had the choice between the two shorts I would probably wear the red with a white stripe too I would wear the red yeah yeah fair enough yeah Red's like more of
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a power color uh White is more like Purity it's funny I always think of uh
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Muhammad Ali his fight with Joe Frasier he wore red shirt or red shorts with the white stripe like that and Apollo Creed
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is good wear those shorts and in the next fight yeah that's right yeah or red
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with a white stripe yeah good point white again this is probably just like a
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a woman's mentality in the first two Rocky movies Rocky is still pretty pale like he doesn't do his tan he's not
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super tan yet white doesn't look good on super pale skin it looks much better on
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darker skin the contrast there for sure the thing I don't like about the red is
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for this era is that it's almost like communist yeah good point that's something Ivan Drago
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would would have on you know or the Soviets give them like blue or something
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like that so there's that bill KY just a
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piano doesn't this make you guys tear up yeah like not now if you're watching it at home yeah I'm getting cheered right
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now Katie right now music is have it all
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yeah hey did you hear I interviewed Bill KY should promote that more it's pretty
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awesome it's the highlight of my podcasting for sure and you guys of course I
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mean of course Rocky's just left the arena he's gone back to his he's just doing a lot of walking or did he catch a
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cab who knows anyway so he's about to have well we learned that he's happy the fight in part two is near his house so
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that yeah we do know that spectrum is near his house he sits on the bed now with Adrian of course she's awake cuz he's come in he goes I can't do it
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that's what he says here can't do it what I can't beat him follow so Dave
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says I can't believe they wanted to cut this from the movie I didn't know about that I did know that this was one take
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this is a one take scene this is the most important scene in the movie what he's about to say is going to be the
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entire premise of it because that what his thoughts on this the whole thing is less meaningful this is a pivotal moment
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that because it sets the whole what's in Rocky's mind before he enters the ring and what he accomplishes in the ring is
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so much more it's called going the distance for a reason right like there's a reason why I'm so glad they got the
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shot this is one shot one take so Sly and tillia Shire this It Go film rolling
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I think it's pretty crazy I've been out there walking around thinking I mean who
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am I get I ain't even in the guys League what are we going to
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do that's a great moment there and this is something I need to do better of especially when my wife is talking to me
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about problems or often as men or whatever or even just as a spouse or a
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partner we try to fix the problems that are presented to us she hases a great job here where she just says what are we
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going to do he's brought up his problem and she doesn't try to solve it she doesn't say she's reassurance she's
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listening and she's supporting his struggle and I love how she says what are we going to do that would make me
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feel like I'm not alone Adrien sees us as a team and I'm on a team with someone
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and it's something we're going to work towards together which makes all the difference relationship advice from
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Rocky yeah movie Rocky yeah oh yeah I don't know you work so
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hard yeah it don't matter cuz I was nobody before don't say that come on a is true
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I was nobody that don't matter either you know cuz I was thinking it really
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don't matter if I lose this fight it really don't matter if this guy opens my head either all I want to do is go to
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distance nobody's ever gone the distance with cre and if I can go that distance
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you see and that bell rings and I'm still standing I want to know for the first
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time in my life see I weren't just another from the neighborhood obviously
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we all know that scene so well it's hard to interrupt I didn't want to stop it great acting by Sly by Adrian the camera
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zooming in as he's talking slowly it's very quiet you know you have to really listen you know and it shows his whole
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mind said that was nobody before doesn't matter if he splits my head open but maybe just maybe I can stand toe to- Toe
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with this guy for the full 15 maybe I can do something no other person has done maybe I won't beat him it's not about beating him he can go his personal
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best his personal distance and then he'll know that he's just another bum yeah one count for the bum from the
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neighborhood so Katie are we getting close to your 230 bums or how we doing here I think it's like 2:15 or something
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but yeah we're creeping up there okay it's life in general in and also how Sly
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views life this just vary along the lines of this his speech in Rocky Bel or
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he say it's not how hard you hit it's how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward a lot of people in life
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may not have been everything they wanted to be I think there's something to be said about endurance about perseverance but just I
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made it I got through this I was able to take everything that's been thrown at me and I'm still here I'm still standing
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that is almost just as important as saying oh I've accomplished this or I've accomplished that you may not be where
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you want to be in your career or you may not be where you want to be romantically but you didn't give up you didn't just
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stop and you're still there and still throwing punches and taking punches and I think there's something to be said about that it's like a personal best
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like he's not trying to he wants to prove it to himself not necessarily the world yeah exactly yeah but he's like
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accomplished a goal his goal isn't necessarily to win at this point however I did wonder up until this time that
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he's been training and they're like you're gonna kill him you know we really got a shot you know this buildup I'm
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wondering if he even like really thought about the ultimate like this point time like oh I actually have to do this do I
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think I can win or is it or is he just now realizing I think this is playing to the audience a little bit I think he's
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actually this Sly I think it's a combination of the character yes so
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that's a great question did he really think did Rocky ever really think is why is he thinking now he can't win so that's your great actually great
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observation so what was Rocky's mindset at the beginning did he really think I had a chance cuz he even said that to
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Jurgens at the office you know no no I'm I'm a ham Ander that guy's the best like he's going to so he did so yes he did
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but then you're right what changed I don't think a lot changed but I think this is just a reminder maybe to the audience saying just so you know don't
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expect this don't expect Rocky to win the fight there's more to this message than rocky winning the title this is
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about him going his distance and so it's a bit of an exposition for the audience maybe to be kind of mindfully prepared
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of the outcome I think it did just Dawn on him be honest okay I think well he
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was training and he was fighting and Mickey was talking him up I think he really did believe he had a shot at the
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beginning he like fight's set know I don't need no manager the fight's set i'm GNA get my head kicked
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in you get to the point where it's like you're you know you're got to eat lightning and crap thunder and you're going to do this and you're going to do
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that and he's pumped and he's jazzed and he's happy and then it's like now he saw
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that Arena when when [ __ ] got real because it's probably almost surreal to him that he's actually fighting Creed it's almost
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unbelievable right yeah exactly you know you know logically that it's it's happening you know that it's real you're
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not in a dream or something it's not really real until you get close to it it's the night before the Arena's there
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your picture's up there this is really happening going down and now I'm going
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to have to actually swap punches with this guy in less than 24 hours the other part of my brain's got to kick in and be
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like are you really going to beat him is this really going to happen I used to have a thing where I wrote like an exam
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I trained all year on and the pass rate was less than than 50% and everyone else was was studying just as hard as me if
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not harder and while I was studying I'd be like I'm kind kick ass on this and
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when I got closer that time reality set in and I realized look writing with
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really smart people all over the world who's going to be writing this exam too it's something so maybe I'm projecting
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myself on Sly or on Rocky here but I agree I do think like you don't really
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think of the re the reality of the situation until it's like right in front of you probably additionally I mean I do
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this too where it's like you try and like almost reset your own expectations he's like okay realistically I'm not
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going to win but I will be happy with my performance if this yeah and that's what I like about
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this film that's my favorite part about it is because if he beat Apollo this
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would be cheesy boxing movie yeah with some decent characters and some a very
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interesting romance between Rocky and Adrian still like that if he beat Apollo and Adrian came out and it's like I love
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you and I'd be like this is so like this is so stupid it's so
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unrealistic like romantic comedy that's why I hate exactly like this what makes this film cool is that
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he loses the fight fight night is the next episode I have a a suggestion I
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don't know if you guys have seen the fight that this fight was based on the Chug Ali fight would you be willing to
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do do some homework and watch that before this it might give some interesting context for sure was Sly
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really in the crowd I I think he was watching it I know maybe I don't know I heard I've heard he was in the crowd
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heard that I thought I heard he was in the crowd I mean it costs a lot of money to well maybe not back then but it's
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very expensive to go to sporting events and he was poor I don't know I can never keep up with that guy I love him but I I
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okay uh yeah that's not bad idea so remind us that's actually I don't know if I know I've seen I'll send you the
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link yeah send us the link that's actually not a bad idea to see the great the fight that kind of the Catapult for
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S creation for this yeah yeah we can look back at the footage see if we can see Sly somewhere in the fight footage
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that's funny I shared this link with Ryan the other day I think it was probably months ago where it was like
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the Muhammad Ali Leon Spinx fight Sly was famous at this point already so they
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interviewed him he was watching it in the audience and S go it's very strategic fight very strategic he's like
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they're not wasting no energy that's for sure I'm like I God it's so funny how
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much of like his real personality goes into this movie sure that's funny
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certain words he's a big fan of too yeah yeah all right well that's the uh end of
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cuz they like to hear what I edit out I guess I don't know all right well that's it the episode's over I didn't hear no
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