F*ck Fear with Christine Spratley: Living Like a Head Bitch In Charge | Put the Turd down and step away

Join Christine Spratley in this episode of 'Fuck Fear' as she discusses the complexities of dealing with difficult and emotionally taxing individuals, drawing on her personal experiences and insights. Christine shares her strategies for recognizing toxic behaviors, setting boundaries, and maintaining emotional stability. Learn how to avoid handling the 'turds' in life, limiting your interactions with emotionally immature and challenging people, and participating in their insanity when necessary. This episode offers practical advice and tools to help you navigate stressful interactions effectively while prioritizing your own mental health and well-being.

00:00 Welcome to Fuck Fear with Christine Spratley
01:23 The Sour Lemon Test
01:54 Step Away from the Turd
03:14 Dealing with Difficult People
09:00 Participating in Their Insanity
16:22 Setting Boundaries and Exit Strategies
32:25 Final Thoughts on Handling Turds

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Christine (HBIC) Spratley

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45 - Fuck Fear - Put the Turd down and step away
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[00:00:00] Hello ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to Fuck Fear with Christine Spratley, living like a head bitch in charge. How are my HBI Cs out there today? And all of those that you, that support us. , Joe, we're ready to do shots today.

Joe: Mm-hmm.

Christine Spratley: Okay. It is immunity. It looks like there's a little bit of more Peppa in here. Peppa. We're gonna see how this goes. [00:01:00] Bottoms up, ready to go.

Joe: Oh, that one was

Christine Spratley: good.

Joe: It's growing on me.

Christine Spratley: I'm sorry. I sold smart one day. You're not gonna

Joe: bring shots. And I'm gonna, it's gonna be like that Pavlock dog situation. I'm just gonna be over here drooling the whole show. Be like, something's off. I don't know what it is. Oh my gosh.

Christine Spratley: My, um, have you, have you seen the, the TikTok or whatever videos where they do the, the sour lemon test. I've seen people and face,

Joe: I've seen people give lemons to their babies.

Christine Spratley: No, this is where they take a sour lemon test or, you know, I don't challenge whatever. And, and they do it and their reactions in their face, oh my God, it's so hilarious.

My l my left eye always does that. My left eye shuts when I have that shower. There's some sour in there. Well, back to the topic at hand. So today we've got a fun [00:02:00] one that I'm excited about and it's, it's funny that I'm excited about this because it wasn't originally, it was not produced out of the fact that it was fun and exciting.

It was actually a very messed up, fucked up moment, um, experience for me. And it happened recently. . Today's episode basically is, um, you know, put the turd down and step away, step away from the turd. There's no clean way to pick up a turd. Okay? There's just none.

And a while back, I had come across a mug and, um, I, I think I've, I've sent it out. I know I've sent it out. Um, and it, it basically says trying to understand some people is like trying to pick up a turd by the clean end. And that has evolved for me into a step away from your turd. [00:03:00] Step away, step away from it.

Don't try to, you know, don't try to finesse handling it. Don't try to, you know, be logical with it. Um, there's just, there's just not a good way to deal with it. And the reason why I feel like this is important to talk about is because sometimes, especially for, for me as a woman. I have been almost programmed to be the, I.

Peacemaker to be the, to be the, you know, to communicate to almost over communicate. Um, you know, kill them with kindness sort of thing. And, um, if you don't say anything, you know, if you can't say anything, don't say. If you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all. My mama used to say that, and I'm so far away from that, but I still find myself trying to not be the bad guy, even when they're the bad guy.

When I'm dealing with bad guys, you know, I'm the one bringing a [00:04:00] knife to a gunfight. Sometimes. And, um, so there was a situation recently, um, with someone that is for me, the, the, they're just, they're just ama I have to interact with this person. And it was a, it was a conversation that I was anticipating was going to be somewhat challenging, and so I kind of prepared for it.

But immediately when I got in there, it was like, it was just all, everything. I mean, it was just everything I tried to, to, um, be logical. I tried to, and as far as my, my logic was going, I tried to love and, you know, listen, understand, validate, and, and, and, and within like the first five minutes of it, I was, I was not, I was not anything but.

Highly reactive. [00:05:00] I mean, we're talking turnover levels. And so what I walked away with was, oh my God, I'm gonna have to interact with this person again and again for a little while longer. And there a turd. And how do I, you know, handle this turd without getting shit on my hands? And, um, so one of the ways that I am dealing with this is a quote from one of my old boyfriends, Brett Pascarella, um, and s connected to New York Italian.

I actually looked him up on LinkedIn the other day. He just looks like Brett, but older. Like it, it's so funny. Um, but just he's very witty, sarcastic, [00:06:00] verbal, assassin. I mean, he was just great. But one of the things that I did in my early career was I was a permit runner, um, down at the city of Austin.

And I. Had to go down. What that means for those of you that don't know, is you have to get building permits. To build a building, you have to get a site development permit to, you know, clear the land so that they can build the building and level it and you know, do all these things, build a detention pond, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

And so I was a permit runner, so I would go down there and I would help them run the permits through all the approval processes down at the city. And at that time. In the 1990s, Austin was really kind of known for its, um, let's make everything really fucking difficult to do and, um, in the permitting process.

And it was a really contentious, not contentious, but it was a very hard time for developers. So there's me bopping down there, you know, my high heels, my shoes and, you know, whatever. [00:07:00] And, um, and so I would go down there and again, this was. Mid, you know, it wasn't my first job doing it, but it was, you know, I had done it for a while and it was when I had my own company and, and he, I remember having, um, an argument with one of the engineers down there on a site plan and.

Literally, I was just so pissed because he said, I can't sign off on these plans. I can't give you the red stamp. And a red stamp is what they stamp on the mylars, um, to get the plans approved or you, you know, not the mylars, but the, the plans to go get the mylars, which is then they make copies of all those plans and that's what you use to take to the field and you're good to go.

And he wouldn't sign off. And the reason why he wouldn't sign off, I'll never forget this, is that. He wanted an original copy to be attached to the set of plans. 'cause we were doing a revision and I'm like, but you guys have the original copies downstairs. [00:08:00] He's like, I know they're downstairs. And it was Kevin.

I was like, what? What do you mean? He's like, yeah, they're downstairs. And I'm like, literally that's it. And he's like, yeah. I'm like. You want me to go away and come back another day, like serious, like that's what's holding this up. And so I was like, oh, hold on, I have to go to the restroom. And I ran downstairs and he's like, okay, go to the restroom.

And you know, I didn't change my appointment and I ran downstairs. I got a copy and I came back up. Okay. And I had a copy of the, of, of the approved plans. They were all whatever. And, and he, and he is like, here, now you got 'em. Now they're attached and now you can sign off. And he, and he did. And I remember going home 'cause I was, you know, Brett and I were living together at the time and I said, I said something to him, I was just like, oh my God, these people just insane.

That makes no fucking sense. And Brett was said to me something, and this is the term. [00:09:00] He said sometimes, Christine, you have to participate in their insanity. And I have used that so many times in my professional career, in my personal life, and I'm hoping you can add that to your pantry. Because it helps me not try to figure out how to handle the turd.

And I, and I'll give you the, the kind of the context and thought behind that is when I realize that you are insane or that you are an asshole and I quit dealing with you with logic, or I quit dealing with you of, oh, you're a nice guy. Or I quit bringing a knife to a gunfight. I go, oh, I get it. I quit trying to communicate to you like that.

And I start [00:10:00] using language and, um, interaction that you understand. And this helps me because like, again, going back to my recent engagement with this person, it was like, and the reason why it deteriorated so fast is because I was trying to be. I, I just wanted, I didn't wanna have a discussion. I just wanted to know their, what they wanted.

Just tell me what you want and. I was trying to be like, well then, then if you want that, then we need to do that. And then it was just like, no. And then I would say, and then I'd give in on this point, no. Or then I'd argue this point, no. And then I finally, 'cause I, again, I didn't do this in the moment, this in the moment I was not doing any of this.

In the moment I was picking up the turd, I was. Smacking it with my hands. I was, I mean, I was Ooh. And um, but afterwards, I, I realized that didn't work. So I took a shower, got clean, and then [00:11:00] I had some self-reflection. And the self-reflection was, is there was nothing that I could have done or said to please this person.

That was the insanity. That was what it was. And it was like, oh, that helped me the next time. Put down the dirt because of what it did was I became very quiet and instead of saying statements, I started asking questions, and it was just a question back, so they had to answer because I, there was nothing that was going to get this person that I needed to say that that was going to be, even if it was two plus two equals four, and four is the right answer.

They didn't, that was not pleasing to them. So it was like there was no way that I could have won that fight, or even if it was a fight or had a general conversation. So I've just was like, oh, I just need to stop handling the turd. And I've often used the turd. [00:12:00] You know, don't pick up. There's no clean way to do this.

You know, one, by realizing that there, you know, some people, and I do, I, you've heard me say this, my mental Rolodex, and I'm like, okay. I kind of go into a situation, I'm like, all right, what's the situation? And, and if you can't see me, 'cause you're not watching this on YouTube, I'm, I'm literally turning.

Like the click next to my head, because that's what I do, is I'm like, all right, in my head I'm like, click. Are they angry? Are they, what's their, what's their avenue? What's, you know, I'm trying to make logical sense. Oh no, they're not being logical. Oh, oh, you're an ass. Oh, now I get it. Now it makes sense.

Now the comment absolutely makes sense. I thought you were my, I thought you were my friend. I thought you were my colleague. You know, whatever it might be. Oh, I see you're out to devastate me. I got it now. Game on. Now I can play. And. I would do that, and that helps me see the truth about them and that I don't need to handle them.

I need to limit my interaction with them. [00:13:00] And I'll take this all the way out to a very easy way to apply this. Okay. Say you're dating someone and I will use, um. Um, a, a guy that I know who was dating a, a young woman and, um, it was not a good situation. She was not necessarily the most, um, emotionally mature, very manipulative, just really bad, bad.

And, um, and he would call her back. And he would, he would, you know, and then we would talk and I'd be like, why the hell are you, why, why are you even calling her back? And, um, and he's like, well, you know, you know, and I'm like, no, I don't know. I, I don't know. And so I said to him, I said, you know, I use this turd kind of analogy or whatever.

And I [00:14:00] asked him like, why don't you put in her name, in her number on the phone? Just put turd. And don't pick up the phone. Don't pick up the phone when she calls. And, um, and he's like, ah. And then his buddy, his actually coworker was there. And, um, the reason, so, so he is like, ah, I'm not gonna, and his, but he is like, what?

You're not gonna do it. You know, you're not gonna, you know, you're not going to, so, so he did, he put her in his turd and so like, like that's how he had to, you know, but it was those reminders that, hey, you're about to get, you're about ready to step into it, voluntarily, step into it. You are about ready to engage with something that you know is going to not end well.

done this a few times with people. I've done it with places and I've done it with things where [00:15:00] I have engaged and thinking, oh, I have a little bit more information, I have a little bit more knowledge. Now I have a little bit more experience now. Um, it'll be different. I'll walk away feeling good, and sure enough, um, I don't.

there's this old saying, you know, don't, don't ever wrestle with a pig because you'll get [00:16:00] dirty and the pig just gets happy. You know, I mean, 'cause they're rolling around in their shit. They're, that's their stuff, that's what they want. And, um, it, it just, again, is one of these things where. I sit there and I go, okay, do I want to engage?

Christine Spratley: And if I am going to engage, if I have to engage? 'cause some of us, some of you're probably driving to work and are going, Ooh, I gotta go meet a bunch of turds today in my office. And you can't leave just yet. Or you're not, can't, but you're, you're choosing not to leave just yet. Okay? So you're gonna have.

To deal with some turds today. You get to deal with some turds today, and it's like, okay, but you get to go and go, oh, they're insane. Or, this one's a little off the rocker, or These are this person's motivations. And then you can adjust not only my expectations of their response, because I lower my [00:17:00] expectations when I'm dealing with stupid.

I mean, I do. And I lower my expectations of a, of a logical response when I'm dealing with somebody who's not being logical or is emotionally immature. I mean, how many emotionally immature people do you have in your life that are, you know, and for me, I try not to have very many of those people. And if I do have them, again, I limit my interaction.

With them because I realize, oh, you are emotionally immature, so I'm not gonna give you much to to handle with me. I don't want you much in my life because I have a hard enough time with my emotions, let alone dealing with your immaturity of them. So why? How does this work with us? And you've heard this talk about before about like, why do [00:18:00] I feel so crazy around people?

Um, and one of the reasons is that emotional, um, deregulation about you is contagious. It it, you, the chaos of it, when you hang around the chaos, it becomes your chaos. You our, our systems sync up. Our nervous systems sort of sync up. So it's almost like, you know, when I'm around that you've probably had this, Joe, when you are in a calm room, you kind of calm out, you mellow out.

Even when I'm, I, I, I'm around somebody now that when I jack up the re the pressure, that person just stays calm and then I, next thing I know I'm calm again. But when you walk into a room that's. All of a sudden it's it's energy level, it goes up a notch and then it goes up a notch and then it goes up a notch.

Or you start talking with somebody and they start it's contagious. It gets that, and [00:19:00] that's the body keeps score. You've heard us talk about this, you know, when I'm around this person, and I didn't know this, I didn't think about this, I didn't, I knew it, but I didn't kind of relate it back is when I'm around this particular person, my history with them.

Is always on edge. Always on edge. And so my body, we talked about this in a previous podcast, about the, the, the neurons that fire together, wire together. My, my pathways with this person is already at that, the, the one that's fastest. The Audubon is the crazy, I'm on fire. This is very intense kind of pathway.

And so what I've realized is that part of this is that I'm not crazy. I am, I am involving myself in a situation where past situations have been, they're jacking with me. This is the intensity of it. [00:20:00] Um, I am a, I am almost in a psychologically hostage situation. You know, my, my brain is duct taped to kind of their dysfunction.

And this is one of those things that, when that happens I don't engage. And you've heard about, you know, people that in relationships or divorces or whatever, go through no contact. There's a reason for that. And, um, and it's really hard, part of it too is this, um, idea, the self delusion that I can pick it up and handle it.

Again, like I said before, like, oh, I've got, I've got just enough therapy in it, in me to defer this out. Well, the problem with that is they don't have any therapy in them. They don't have any tools. They're not using tools. So it's like, unless they're like a kid that you put in the backseat of the car and take 'em, drive, and so they crash [00:21:00] out.

Which I don't think any ex ever wants to do, or a person that wants to start a fight, wants to do, you are still left with this crazy person over here that you're trying to engage with. And, and I don't mean crazy, I just mean emotionally off center. Um, sometimes I do think that people that we deal with are, um, have bad intentions.

And therefore they're the kind of turds that are, not only do they leave you stinking and messy and dirty, but can, can really wound. Um, and, and what's what's really wild to me is that the hardest thing for me to do in that situation, even when I go, oh, you're insane. I want to over explain. I want to. Re, I want to find a way to reengage with you instead of just [00:22:00] leaving it alone.

And that was one of the hardest things that I had with this person was the conversation became me, me just responding back in questions instead of giving information. And as a woman, it's kind of goes against some of my nature, is to give less. Give less access to my thoughts, give less access to my explanation.

You've heard this before, Joe. I'm sure no is a complete sentence and that's hard for me just to go. No, no, it doesn't work for me. No, no. I'm not gonna do it. No. Um, but. Because it goes back to I have oftentimes I've become the fixer. I'm Oprah. I want you to put you on my couch and, you know, help you do this.

[00:23:00] It's, it's not, I am none of those things for that person. You know, if I'm at work, what I try to do to, to kind of step back is I'll follow up with an email. Um. If I want out of a conversation, I'll say, I wanna ta, we're gonna table this until the next call, or this is no longer, you know, I'm done with this conversation.

And what it allows me to do is it allows me to just stop the conversation. And this is what I found in, in that last conversation that I was talking about, is that it was hard for me to do. It was hard for me just to stop it. Like I just wanted to stop it. And there's been times where I've been so emotionally, like I can see [00:24:00] myself, I can actually watch myself having this argument with this, with this sword.

It's not even an argument at this point. It's just this shit show literally, not just, it didn't just mean that I meant a shit show, you know, emotionally, verbally, um, but I've hung up and been like, oh, text him. Text them. Hey, I, I, you know, 'cause I do, you know me and, you know, I hit my, hit my mute button or, or hit my off button with my phone, with my face or whatever and I'll text 'em and say, Hey, I gotta call you back.

My phone died or whatever, you know, whatever. But I've gotten myself out and then I quit reengaging and I think that is really. Good for me to do is to go, I'm in it. I want out of it. How can I get out of it? And it's as [00:25:00] simple now for me as saying, I'm done with this conversation and I'm gonna hang up.

And if I don't have the ability to do that, or I'm choosing not to, to access the ability to do that, sometimes I just hang up and then I text, I'll cut you back later. Had to, had to run. Sorry to catch you. Show short. Had to run a lot of times. I don't even put, you know, had to catch you short. Don't run. I don't use, I'm sorry.

Very often. Very any much, um, very much anymore. Sometimes I still do 'cause I still get that people please. You know, or I think I wanna add a little salt and, you know, wor, you know, if I'm kind of nice to 'em after I told 'em to fuck off, basically by hanging up on 'em. They won't yell so much, but they always yell just as much.

Um, so I just, I just kind of do that. Um, the other thing that I've realized in doing this is once it's done, and I, I would challenge any of my listeners think about an interaction with [00:26:00] somebody that you don't like having interactions with. Okay. For whatever reason. And when they, when you get a text or you get a call or you get an email.

What is your initial reaction to that? And mine is typically a physical reaction. And then my second reaction to that is typically I wanna pick up the phone and start texting them back. I immediately want to address it instead of going, whoa, stop that, that that goes down over here, that set it down, let it happen.

You know? Let's put some space and time between you and reply. Um, now I have started to do this with almost all forms of communication on for certain people. You know, it'll take me a little bit longer to get back one, because it allows me to go, do I want to pick, do I need to pick up [00:27:00] this turd? Do I need to reengage?

How do I wanna reengage? And is there an exit strategy for me? Because I didn't realize this is that a lot of times I literally, and I had to have a friend. I remember getting a text from someone and then, and um, and I just immediately was like firing shit off, you know? And it was, again, I didn't realize that they didn't, they were not going to be logical in their response.

They, their intentions were different than mine. Their intention really wasn't for me to respond and say, this is, you know, it's like, Hey, what are you doing today? My, their intention was not to ask me about, like, they didn't care what I was doing. Their intention was to get on outta my skin and start a fight.

And so it was like blah, blah, blah, blah. It was my response, da, da, da. And then it was just little by little and then by the fifth text I was like all wound up and my friend was like, stop texting this [00:28:00] person. We're having a great day out here. Stop texting this person. So again. It's like my immediate reaction is to dive into the turd pile instead of, and respond rather than, um, yeah, I think I'll just put that on pause Now.

I only do that with, well, I say this. I typically, I'm not gonna use the, the, the word only. I typically do that with very few people in my life right now. 'cause I have, I have very few herds in my life, but the ones that I have are the ones that are the hardest for me to let go of. And they're the ones that I.

I want to get some sort of, and you've heard me talk about this enclosure, I want, you know, there's something that I still get from that [00:29:00] participation and I don't know what that is, and I'm sure, you know, I'll have therapy to figure that out. But in the meantime, I'm, I'm allowing myself. To go, all right, slow down, slow down.

And when I'm in that situation and I feel my body and it's, I don't know, Joe, if you've ever had this where you feel like you're talking with somebody and, and all of a sudden you're like, you're physically start, I start tightening up, I start getting, you know, my words aren't coming to me. And, and I start just, it's almost like there's this clutch on my throat that I can feel.

And, um. And then sometimes I just go right into just anger and, you know, you start taking the cheap, verbal, cheap shots and stuff like that. And then, and again, it just, so when that starts happening, it's time for, I, and I've had this [00:30:00] very few times, you know, very few people in my life that were, or situations in my life where it happens.

But when that starts happening, I go, okay. Stop talking, stop texting, stop, just stop. And then I'm able to go, okay. And usually what's funny is that other person, if you give them enough air space, they run outta oxygen.

And um, and again, they may try to provoke, they may try to. You know, again, if they can't get you here, they may try to get you there. And so it's just a matter of just staying consistently neutral and until it's, until I find my exit strategy, but I don't, I don't know why I still want to get involved in that.

Um, and every time it's the same lesson I learned, no, I don't like this, [00:31:00] but. I do really think it's one of those things in, in my life and I hope in in yours, that allows us to kind of look and say, wow, I don't need this shit anymore. Literally, again, I'm using the word chip, but you know, it's a turd episode, but you know it, it's okay to go, no, I don't want this in my life, and then take the action to not have it in your life.

Or to go, Ooh, sometimes I have to participate in their insanity. Like I, you know, there's some things going on in my life right now where I have to participate with someone who, who I just, who we just don't see things the same way. Their, their whole thing is very different. Um, and so what I've done is I've, I've allowed myself to limit that.

Whether it be the amount of time that I spend talking about it, the amount of actual interaction that I have with them, [00:32:00] um, and time that I have with them, whether it's bringing someone around when I'm around them, um, and you know, just all of these little things that I do. So I don't, not only don't pick up the turd, but when I have to.

And engage with the turd that I don't just wrestle with it. Um, so this is your homework. Think about the turds in your life, and they could be big ones, you know, but the ones that you, I'd rather not. And think about how you react to that and what's your expectation of them in the sense of are you thinking they are.

Sane people and they're really just freaking nuts. Are they narcissist? Are they just off hinge? Are they just egocentric? Are you know what? What is their deal? And then once you've got that [00:33:00] go, oh, how do I need to interact? How would I treat that person? Just if they, you know, just based on not who they are, but based on what they are.

How would I interact with a toddler, someone who's emotionally immature? How do you deal with that? Okay. If they're acting like a 7-year-old kid, then treat 'em like a 7-year-old kid. I mean, bring that framework into your head and go, okay, ah, well then I'll quit treating you like you're a F 40-year-old adult.

Okay, now I get it. But also remember that you are not responsible for their. Growth for their understanding and their outcome. So that's your first thing is who's in there? Okay. Then what type of insanity do you have to, do? You have to participate in it or do you not? [00:34:00] Okay? And then if they're not, if you don't have to, if you're not absolutely having to, then don't limit it.

Put the limit on it. Limit the access, or put their name in your phone. Turd, turd one, turn two, turn three. See how many turds you have in your life. You know, do whatever it is to help remind you, Hey, this is, this is what it is. And then if you do have to interact with them, how can you limit that interaction?

What's your exit strategy? And can you put. Five, 10 seconds, minutes between when they reach out and you respond. Can you keep that to an email interaction? You know, how do you set, and again, we've talked about this, how do you set boundaries so you don't have to [00:35:00] declare war?

You know, write down, grab a sticky note, write it down. You know, they're the people that pull out the crazy in you. You know, it's, it's like it's a flash sale on dysfunction in you. And then after you do that and you go through this, write down at this. It's not my shit. It's not my cleanup. This is not my mess.

They are not your mess.

And so remember. There's no good way to put up, pick up the turd. So set it down, step away from the turd, just back away from it, and then it can go and, and be a turd in someone else's life. I, so that's my little diddy on Turt today, [00:36:00] and I hope that you've, I hope that you don't have a whole bunch of them in your life.

But, but just be honest. And then again, once you take the action of this, and maybe again, this is your pantry, you can use what you want, talk to your girlfriends, talk to your buddies, whatever, and, and find out what works for you. But then once you start practicing different action, typically I get more insight into what I'm getting out of participating with this term.

Yeah. And again, maybe it's time to go back and listen to my podcast on closure again. And and I'm, I'm saying that laughing. It's me, not just you, the listener but me, you know? But first, take the action. See what action that you can have. Because if I don't pick up that turd and I don't try to manhandle that [00:37:00] turd.

Then I don't get that shit in my life, and I want as much of this good stuff as I can have, and I want you to have it too. You deserve the good stuff. But sometimes that means that I gotta quit picking up the turds and I gotta start realizing that when I have to participate with them, that I'm participating in their insanity.

So until next time, go get you some good stuff and set down the turds tubs. [00:38:00]