Wake Me Talks "Wolves," Red Rocks Memories & the Secret Sauce Behind Their Biggest Single | The Sound 228

Colin from Wake Me joins Kevin and Lisa to break down their breakout single "Wolves," their team behind the scenes, and playing Red Rocks with Five Finger Death Punch. Plus a new Grudge Match (Transient vs. FirSun) and a Dec. 20 benefit concert announcement for Mississippi Santa at Sanctuary Biloxi.

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Lisa Wills

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A royal salute to the queen of country music, British army men performed Dolly Parton's nine to five outside Buckingham Palace in London today.
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This after the singer sadly passed away yesterday at the age of 80 after a brief battle with cancer.
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And as fans search Dolly Parton's music and legacy, butterfly tribute with the words, I will always love you, a nod to her iconic 1973 hit.
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And Dolly's leg

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There you go.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Very, very somber couple days, with

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It has.
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Yeah.
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So It's been really, really sad.
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If you're not in the country,

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I thought it was pretty cool with the whole British army Yeah.
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Outside the outer outside the king's palace.

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Yeah.
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You don't see that a lot.

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No.
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But it it it it tells you how polarizing she was, how transcending she was, and and all of that.
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And, I mean, and I know it was Donald Trump, but I'm sure other another if somebody else was sitting in the White House, they'd probably done it too by putting the flags at half staff for her.
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I don't know when the last time a flag was put at half staff for an entertainer or anything like that for The United States.
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So pretty cool.

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Pretty cool.
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Pretty sad.
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And then Tim Curry today on top of that.

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Enough.
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I was gonna I

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was gonna I was gonna follow that with doctor Frank N Furter.
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I was like, that might have been a little little too much.
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But

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Right.
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Especially if people aren't familiar.
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I mean, I don't know how you're not familiar with the Rocky Horror Picture Show, but yeah.

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Yeah.
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Tim Keurig, man.
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So welcome to an episode of the sound.
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We've got, well, I'm Kevin Harris.

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I'm Lisa Wills.

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And, Matt couldn't join us tonight.
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Jared couldn't join us tonight, but we do have the band Wake Me that's gonna be joining us.
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We'll be, talking to them about everything they've got going on in their new single Wolves.
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We've got a brand new, grudge match with two new contenders.
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We're gonna see, First Son take on transient in that, and then we also have a a concert announcement, that we will be doing here in just a little bit.

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And, right before we got on, I we locked in the rest of the details.
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So Yes.
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Lisa's a little more comfortable with it.
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So

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A little bit.
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Yes.
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So what so Lisa, what do you

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you know what?
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Before we go any further, and I I don't know if you were gonna do it, but before we go any further, big shout out to, the guys in Dead Eyes.

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Yeah.
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I was gonna say something.
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Yeah.

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Okay.
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I'll let you I'll let you go ahead and say it.

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Okay.
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In case you didn't see, there was an announcement today from the dead eyes camp.
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Our hearts are with vocalist Zach Williams and his family as his mom enters her final stages of life.
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We love you.
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We understand they have postponed their tour with versus me.

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And, you know, they'll it'll be recycled at a later time, but, our hearts are with you.
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We love you, and we hope that, her her transition is a peaceful one

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Yes.

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Founded by the people that she loves.

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So So, Adam, just to let you know, you asked where Jared's at.
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He hadn't been on here in a while.
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Yeah.
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Jared is extremely he's back in school.
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He's got Brownwater banter going on.

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So we we we're handling this end of it for him so he can focus on school and get his and get whatever other degree he's going for, whether it I don't know what he's doing.
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But he is going back to school, and it's a lot.
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He's gotta travel to go to the labs and and and stuff like that.
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So but, anyways

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And he's got, you know, school children.
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He's got kids that are

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Yep.

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In in school.
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So he's got his family.
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He's got his wife.
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He's got his kids, and he's got his education, and that's really important.
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So we're happy to hold down the fort, man.

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Don't you worry.
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When Jared is able to come back, he will be back in all his bald glory.

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That's what we're here for.
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So, what have you been listening to?

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I have been listening to the new album by the beautiful monument.
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Really good.

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Okay.

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Really good.
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Yeah.
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I want you to check it out.
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Really, really good.
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I've also been listening to a lot of, dead eyes, just normally because I love dead eyes.

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Of course, Normandy because how else would I get through a Teams meeting?
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And architects and, also some Lake Malice.
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They came out with a new song, and I'm gonna be seeing them in a few weeks.
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And, also raptors, getting myself amped up to, travel overseas and not sleep for thirty six hours and go to their show because that's how I roll.

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How about you?

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So I am stuck.
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I am absolutely on loop with bare tooth bullshit.

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Is it the whole I can't wait for this album to come out.
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Phenomenal.
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It's gonna be phenomenal.
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I can't wait to see them.
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I can't wait to see them on tour.

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I can't everything.
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I I am loving you know, Beartooth I feel like Beartooth, you can really see, like, a complete evolution of a sound with Beartooth from from their first album to now.
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The

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Mhmm.

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Both is it has skyrocketed.
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You can you can just hear it.
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You can hear it.
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And and I also think now that maybe Caleb and I don't know because I don't know him.
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But if if someone is feeling more secure about themselves and better about themselves, they can be more free with their lyrics.

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You know what I mean?
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The compositions, whatever they're gonna make, they can get as creative as they wanna be because now they don't have to hide anything anymore.
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They can just be themselves.
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So I feel like maybe that is also partly to, to blame for their awesomeness right now.

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So, Nate said the star set single is what he's listening to, and and, Anne just said the new If Not For Me album and Sequoia's new EP for her.
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So let us know in the comments what you're listening to, what what are you listening to lately.
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And then, we're just gonna so real quick, we do have that concert announcement.
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We will be doing it after the grudge match.
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Mhmm.

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But we did lock in another show coming up, what did I say?
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October 9.
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No.
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When did I say that was?
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September 9.

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Second ninth sixteenth.
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September 16.
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Enemy.

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Already forgot about the chat.
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So I it's already gone.
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Out of my mind.

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Now I'm gonna I'm gonna break some bad news to you because sept September 23 is when you start the vacation.
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Correct?

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It's September 24 is the day I get on the plane.

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Okay.
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Well, then September 23, it looks like we're gonna have catch your breath.

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Where?

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On the sound.
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Shut the fuck

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up.
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Really?

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So our our our guy that handles some of the bigger names for us is pretty much got it locked in.
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We're just waiting.

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Oh my gosh.
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I would confirmation.
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I have seen them in very, very small clubs.
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And then it seemed like one day, all of a sudden, they were on this huge tour with breaking Benjamin.

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Yeah.

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And I was like, look at catch your breath.
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Finally, getting the attention that they deserve.
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They deserve the big stage.
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100 love their music, and I can't wait to talk to them.
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That is fucking epic.

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Hell yeah.

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That's, I'm hoping that that all it looks like it's gonna happen.
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So

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so we'll just be on that podcast.
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Don't you worry.

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Alright.
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So we had a grudge match tonight.
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We've got two new bands.
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We've got, the first video you're gonna see is the new one from Transient, and the song is Learn to Breathe.
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The second one you're gonna see is the band First Son, which if you remember the band Post Prophet, Matt Jackson, the lead singer of Post Prophet, is the lead singer of First Son, and the song is called o preacher.

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And I'm gonna preface this.
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I'll talk about it.
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I can talk about it before we get into the video, because it's the second video we're gonna play.
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But you know how it works.
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We're gonna play two videos.

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At the second video, you're gonna put in the comments video number one or video number two, And then, we will pin the comments, and we will count it up.
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And we will, see who moves on next week to take on a new challenger.
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So but for right now, here is video number one.
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This is the latest from Transient.
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Absolutely.

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I don't give a I don't care what anybody says.
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Everything that Transient puts out is fire.
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And when I see posts and there's a ton of posts.
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I mean, when I see posts about name an underrated band or name a band that should be bigger, blah blah blah, and I get it.
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And there's a bunch of bands that I wanna add to that list, and I can run them down.

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Transient's always gonna be on there because those boys put out good shit all the time.
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I've not had a belt on come from them.
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But, anyways, here is the latest from them.
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It has learned to breathe.
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It's video number one on the grudge match, and you are watching the sound.

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Just believe and see.
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I never knew how

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I should not be allowed to do so many things at one time.

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You should not.
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I I I was gonna say, I you know, Trey has got one hell of a voice, man.

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He does.
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You know what?
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I heard he he did, acoustic with Doze at Saint Marie at Twist of Line this past weekend, Sunday, I think it was.
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And I got a couple phone calls about how amazing he was doing his acoustic stuff.
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I believe that.

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I mean, literally, he he could sing, yeah, he could sing the dictionary.
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I've listened.
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Alright.
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Well Great voice.

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That was video number one.
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Here is video number two.
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So as I was saying, the lead singer of this band is the old lead singer of post profit, Matt Jackson.
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Now when you're watching the video, this video was done last year, and we were originally gonna premiere it.
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And then things some did some changings and and things like that.

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The drummer you see in the video is Miles Claiborne, but Miles is not in the band anymore.
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So there's been some trend.
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He's gone on to do his thing, and Matt's got another drummer, but that's the video.
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But here is video number two.
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It's first on.

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It's called Oh Preacher.
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Check it out, and you are watching the sound.
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Oh, Preacher.

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Stop it.
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Stop it.
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Stop it.

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They say bring your cares down to the water, but

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If we can't all come to an agreement on something, it's not going to happen.
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That's really just how it is.
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So good.

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I love me some Matt Jackson.
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He's another one.
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Amazing.
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Amazing voice.
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I got to see them open up for nothing more on their on nothing more's, first part of their carnal tour.

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Yeah.
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It's phenomenal.
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God.
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There's

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Put it in the comments, video number one or video number two.
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We need your help.
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We gotta figure out who's gonna move on to next week.
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But on that note, I had to upload the new graphic to make sure it was Lisa approved.
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Yeah.

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So we do have a concert announcement.
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It is quite a ways away.
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Yeah.
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But it is a benefit, and it's for a benefit around Christmas for Mississippi Santa is who it is, benefiting kids in Mississippi.
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And it's going to be one hell of a day of if you're into Gulf Coast music, everybody that you would ever think of is gonna be at this show.

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And here it is.
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You ready?

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Let's do it.

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Boom.
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So it's rock the halls.
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It's for Mississippi Santa.
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It's December 20, which is a Sunday.
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It will be an early show.

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It will be all ages, with Envision, Love the Hate, Them Guys, the return of Rise the Phoenix, Not My Time, the three doors down tribute band, Scream Out Loud, Storage twenty four, Less Faith, and the band you just saw a cup a couple videos ago, Transient, all part of this show.
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It's gonna be at the sanctuary in Biloxi.
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Doors at one, show at two.
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Now look.
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This is an all ages show, so here's an opportunity here.

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So, it's $10 in advance, $15 day of the show, or a donated toy.
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It's that simple.
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Now tickets bought, there there's gonna be cash.
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And we I talked to Lisa, and we came up with an idea that maybe we donate the cash.
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The toys go to the kids.

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Cash goes to the women's, the battered women's shelter here in in Biloxi, Mississippi.
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So, couple options that we have there, but tickets will be on sale this Friday at 10AM, at the sanctuary biloxi.com.
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Rock the halls.
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It says rock the toy box benefit.
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That's just because I come up with some stupid name, and that's what I put up there.

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But now it's a benefit for Mississippi Santa.
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So, yeah, there you go.
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That is the big concert announcement.
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It's gonna be huge.
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We're gonna have so much fun.

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So Yeah.

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Yeah.
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So bring your Christmas spirit and your wallet.
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And, you know, do it for the kids.
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Do it for the local Mississippi community.
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A lot of people around the holidays are I mean, people are struggling day to day right now.

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So the food banks are are hard up.
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The everything is hard up.
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You know?
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The the shelters for the homeless, the the food banks, the battered women shelters, the animal shelters, especially hard up.
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So if you are looking for a great cause and wanna rock out with some awesome people before the holiday season, before you have to deal with your family, go let all your stress and cares disappear.

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That's it.

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On December 20 at, the sanctuary in Biloxi.

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So, I'm I'm I'm I'm gonna check my email to make sure that, we aren't getting a, hey.
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We can't get in or or whatever it is.
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Nope.
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Not yet.
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So, we're waiting on wake me, to to join us.

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So you just heard that.
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So we got, next week, we've got a we got four we got three shows happening within the next within, like, five, six days of each other.
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Yeah.
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I don't have the flyer for Criers, in here, but Criers is gonna be September 5, a Saturday night at the sanctuary.
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Criers is the ultimate emo tribute band.

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I'm telling you.
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If you haven't seen Criers live and emo music and the the fallout boys and the and Will We Hear the Black Parade?

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Yes.
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Okay.

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Yeah.
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My

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Chemical Romance the selling point.
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You will hear My Chemical Romance.

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Yes.

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Black Parade.

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You will hear you will hear that.
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Definitely, those, that show's happening September 5.
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And then September 6, we've got the Texas Checkmate tour with, with Blacktop Mojo and Seven Year Witch, Stoneco, and Oak Knoll.
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And, of course, that's at the sanctuary.
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Tickets are available right now at the sanctuaryofbiloxi.com.

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Go ahead.

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And right now, you can win a pair of tickets

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You can.

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This show.
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Alright.
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Go to our social media.
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Find the post.
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I probably should share it again.

00:23:25 [Speaker 3]
I probably will.
00:23:26 [Speaker 3]
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00:23:29 [Speaker 3]
Find the post, and go ahead and register for two free tickets.
00:23:32 [Speaker 3]
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00:23:36 [Speaker 3]
So go ahead and get in there.

00:23:38 [Speaker 3]
And seven year witch too.
00:23:39 [Speaker 3]
I can't speak for the other two because I haven't seen them.
00:23:41 [Speaker 3]
I'm sure they're great.
00:23:42 [Speaker 3]
But seven year witch as well.
00:23:44 [Speaker 3]
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00:23:48 [Speaker 2]
It's it's gonna be it's gonna be a a a great show.
00:23:52 [Speaker 2]
And, then three days after that, we've got Plush with major moment, Serena's Fire and Shades of Wisteria at the sanctuary.
00:24:03 [Speaker 2]
And, tickets are still available for that.
00:24:05 [Speaker 2]
And, I you know, the one thing I was worried about with the Biloxi market is putting that many shows together within a certain day amount.

00:24:15 [Speaker 3]
Right.
00:24:15 [Speaker 3]
Because you don't really have a presale market down there.
00:24:18 [Speaker 3]
It's not it's not a good presale market.

00:24:20 [Speaker 2]
It's not a great presale market.
00:24:22 [Speaker 2]
Yeah.
00:24:22 [Speaker 2]
But I'm gonna tell you this.
00:24:23 [Speaker 2]
All three shows are already preselling way better than we ever thought they would.

00:24:29 [Speaker 3]
Fantastic.
00:24:30 [Speaker 3]
Oh, and also for Plush, if you go to their website, plushrocks.com, they have VIP for this show.
00:24:37 [Speaker 3]
Yep.
00:24:38 [Speaker 3]
Don't be a fool.
00:24:39 [Speaker 3]
Get on in there.

00:24:40 [Speaker 3]
Get your VIP upgrade.
00:24:41 [Speaker 3]
The ladies are so super sweet, and they love meeting their fans.
00:24:45 [Speaker 3]
So please, if you, you know, maybe it's someone's birthday, you wanna treat them, whatever.
00:24:51 [Speaker 3]
Go and get the VIP upgrade if you can, and go meet the ladies.
00:24:54 [Speaker 3]
They are an absolute delight.

00:24:56 [Speaker 2]
And speaking of that, because you're a better better seller than I am.
00:25:00 [Speaker 2]
Back to the Blacktop Mojo show, when you buy your tickets, there is an add on for a VIP meet and greet with Black Top Mojo as well, where you get to meet the band.
00:25:10 [Speaker 2]
Really?
00:25:11 [Speaker 2]
You get you get a laminate, you get a sign poster, you get a picture with the band, all that kind of stuff.
00:25:15 [Speaker 2]
So that is available as well.

00:25:18 [Speaker 2]
You can either buy it through Blacktop Mojo's website, or you can buy it through the sanctuary website, as an add on to your tickets.
00:25:26 [Speaker 2]
Now the VIP purchase does not include the tickets, so you have to buy the tickets then the VIP.

00:25:30 [Speaker 3]
It's an upgrade.
00:25:31 [Speaker 3]
Right.

00:25:31 [Speaker 2]
Right.
00:25:32 [Speaker 2]
Right.
00:25:32 [Speaker 2]
And, we we we killed enough time, and Colin from WakeMe is here.
00:25:38 [Speaker 2]
So we are going to bring him in right now.

00:25:42 [Speaker 3]
Alright.

00:25:43 [Speaker 4]
How are you going?
00:25:44 [Speaker 4]
Good, man.
00:25:45 [Speaker 4]
How are you doing?

00:25:46 [Speaker 2]
Doing great.

00:25:47 [Speaker 3]
Deb, can we put him in the middle?
00:25:48 [Speaker 3]
Because this is awkward.

00:25:50 [Speaker 4]
I can do that.
00:25:50 [Speaker 4]
Middle, man.
00:25:51 [Speaker 4]
I'm There we go.

00:25:53 [Speaker 2]
Got it got it taken care of.

00:25:56 [Speaker 3]
Appreciate it.

00:25:58 [Speaker 2]
So how are things going for for you personally and on the, WakeMe side of things?

00:26:05 [Speaker 4]
Oh, man.
00:26:05 [Speaker 4]
It's it's good.
00:26:06 [Speaker 4]
We had a we had a really busy year.
00:26:08 [Speaker 4]
So, you know, we've we've actually kinda taken some, some time, some downtime just for the last, like, month or two.
00:26:16 [Speaker 4]
It's been really nice, but we're about to kinda ramp it back up to, you know, finish this album and get all of our the, you know, rest of our content developed and all that kind of stuff.

00:26:25 [Speaker 4]
So the break is short, but it was, much needed.
00:26:28 [Speaker 4]
So, personally, great.
00:26:30 [Speaker 4]
My wife loves it.
00:26:31 [Speaker 4]
Then I'll then I'm home.
00:26:32 [Speaker 4]
And, but I'm gonna have to get back to the grind here pretty soon.

00:26:36 [Speaker 3]
Yeah.
00:26:37 [Speaker 3]
Interesting.
00:26:37 [Speaker 3]
I was listening to the discography of wake me.
00:26:41 [Speaker 3]
And whenever we're gonna have a musical, you know, have a guest on, I like to reimmerse myself in their music, you know, just to refamiliarize myself.
00:26:47 [Speaker 3]
And as it was playing yesterday, I'm sitting there at work.

00:26:50 [Speaker 3]
I'm doing the things.
00:26:51 [Speaker 3]
And as the songs are coming on, I was like, I know a lot of these songs.
00:26:58 [Speaker 3]
Really?
00:26:58 [Speaker 3]
That's awesome.
00:26:59 [Speaker 3]
I knew a lot of them, and I was like, wait a minute.

00:27:03 [Speaker 3]
Who is this again?
00:27:04 [Speaker 3]
I was like, dude.
00:27:05 [Speaker 3]
I I know I know this.
00:27:07 [Speaker 3]
Yeah.
00:27:08 [Speaker 3]
I I absolutely I love your music.

00:27:11 [Speaker 3]
I actually I really loved it.
00:27:12 [Speaker 3]
I was listening to, obviously, the song that we're here to talk about tonight, which is your newest single, wolves, but I was also enjoying a lot of the other older stuff.
00:27:21 [Speaker 3]
Like, you know, you just go to that Spotify playlist.
00:27:24 [Speaker 3]
This is wake me

00:27:25 [Speaker 4]
and you

00:27:25 [Speaker 3]
hit play, and then it just yeah.
00:27:28 [Speaker 3]
I really enjoyed it.
00:27:29 [Speaker 3]
It was really good.
00:27:30 [Speaker 3]
I I was curious though when it came to wolves, this track is seeing a lot of success.
00:27:38 [Speaker 3]
What do you think happened differently?

00:27:41 [Speaker 4]
I mean, well, first of all, thank you for going back and listening to all those old songs.
00:27:45 [Speaker 4]
And and I am glad.
00:27:46 [Speaker 4]
It makes me very happy that you, at least know some of them.
00:27:50 [Speaker 4]
That means Yeah.
00:27:51 [Speaker 4]
This whole thing is working.

00:27:52 [Speaker 4]
Right?
00:27:52 [Speaker 4]
I mean, like, we it's that's kinda what we what we wanna do, share music with people and, and have them enjoy it.
00:27:58 [Speaker 4]
So that's awesome.
00:28:00 [Speaker 4]
But the, the new track the new single, I mean, I it's it it is by far our biggest single our biggest release just in terms of, like, early, you know, one month in, just the the response that we've gotten from radio and and Spotify and all that, you know, streaming and all that kind of stuff.
00:28:20 [Speaker 4]
So, I mean, not that that's everything, but it just feels like, the response has been really good.

00:28:25 [Speaker 4]
And I guess it it sort of feels like a little bit of, you know, if you write enough songs, like, sooner or later, you'll land on something that just kind of everything clicks with it.
00:28:35 [Speaker 4]
And I that's I think that's what it is, honestly.
00:28:38 [Speaker 4]
It's, I think, you know, the visual content we developed for it, like, the the music videos, the the vibes that we got there match how the how the song sounds, and I think the lyrics kind of match all those things.
00:28:53 [Speaker 4]
So it's just kind of a you know, it's it's hard to do, but you get all the all the elements kind of being a cohesive thing together.
00:29:01 [Speaker 4]
And I think that's that's part of the secret sauce is, you know, it it's like I said, it's you try to do that every time, but it's actually kinda hard to do.

00:29:09 [Speaker 4]
So, to to get one where it came together like that feels good.

00:29:13 [Speaker 3]
Was there a a change up to your team at all?

00:29:18 [Speaker 4]
You know, we've been working

00:29:20 [Speaker 3]
production and and songwriting, etcetera?

00:29:23 [Speaker 4]
Yeah.
00:29:23 [Speaker 4]
I mean, since, you know, if if you were exploring the catalog, since the self destruct EP, which which is the one kinda before these releases, that's been all Chris Dawson, in terms of, producer.
00:29:36 [Speaker 4]
And, you know, we we've worked with several producers kind of previous to that that, you know, isn't that's in our catalog as well.
00:29:42 [Speaker 4]
But, you know, really, it's been Chris, Chris Dawson's been Chris Moratti.
00:29:47 [Speaker 4]
He's been, like, an awesome Spotify, kind of, like, playlist pitch guy, and and and kind of all other things too.

00:29:53 [Speaker 4]
He just, calls us and and helps us with all kinds of stuff, whatever he can think of.
00:29:58 [Speaker 4]
And, you know, JT, Ivan has obviously with with the videos.
00:30:02 [Speaker 4]
We've been working with him for years.
00:30:04 [Speaker 4]
He's the

00:30:05 [Speaker 3]
best.
00:30:05 [Speaker 3]
He really is.

00:30:06 [Speaker 4]
And and Yes.
00:30:07 [Speaker 4]
We feel super fortunate to have found such good, sincere, you know, folks for our team, honestly, just because it's kinda as you can imagine, it's a it it's the landscape out there can be tough when you're trying to find people who are actually interested in seeing you succeed.
00:30:26 [Speaker 4]
And, you know, we found those people, so we're just kinda, like, holding on as tight as we can.

00:30:30 [Speaker 3]
I I can't think of two people, better suited because I can tell you that Chris Dawson both and JT Ibanez actually truly deeply care about the project that they're working on, and they care about the very, very best results.
00:30:44 [Speaker 3]
So they're a dream team for a lot of artists that we know and work with.
00:30:49 [Speaker 3]
Were you gonna say that?

00:30:51 [Speaker 2]
No.
00:30:51 [Speaker 2]
I I was gonna say I have a man crush on Chris Dawson.

00:30:54 [Speaker 4]
Well, I love that.
00:30:55 [Speaker 4]
He's, like,

00:30:55 [Speaker 2]
put together the soundtrack of my life for the last five years.
00:30:58 [Speaker 2]
Right?

00:31:00 [Speaker 4]
So right?
00:31:02 [Speaker 4]
He's on all kinds he's got his fingerprints on all kinds of great stuff.
00:31:05 [Speaker 4]
And, the way that he I just think the way that his brain works is totally suits us.
00:31:12 [Speaker 4]
Like, just the like, how he hears music and, you know, the the kind of production that he puts into it is totally you know, when we discovered him and started working with him, I was like, oh, man.
00:31:22 [Speaker 4]
This is the guy.

00:31:25 [Speaker 3]
I I love that.
00:31:25 [Speaker 3]
I feel like he really he can really laser focus in, you know, and fine tune.
00:31:31 [Speaker 3]
It's gotta be though.
00:31:32 [Speaker 3]
It's gotta be and I'm not saying he's not great for everything, but it's gotta be a specific kind of of song.
00:31:39 [Speaker 3]
You know what I mean?

00:31:39 [Speaker 3]
Like, he he is he's the guy.
00:31:43 [Speaker 3]
If you are in the hard rock world and and need some fine tuning and leveling up and a little bit of help, you know, to, like, you know, just push that song a little bit further, there's nobody else that I would I I could even say.
00:31:58 [Speaker 3]
I mean, I I know there are other people, but he is just a he's really honed that craft so beautifully, and he's done it a brilliant job on this song.
00:32:07 [Speaker 3]
Well, so can you tell us, like, how did this song come about for for you guys?
00:32:12 [Speaker 3]
Like, what was was it written in five minutes?

00:32:14 [Speaker 3]
Was it five days?
00:32:15 [Speaker 3]
Or something you forgot about five years ago, and all of a sudden, it resurfaced?

00:32:19 [Speaker 4]
No.
00:32:19 [Speaker 4]
It it was not a recycling bin song.
00:32:21 [Speaker 4]
Is like, where you just have these parts that are just kinda hanging around.
00:32:25 [Speaker 4]
You can't ever really construct anything around them, and then all of a sudden, you know, you find the that call.
00:32:30 [Speaker 4]
That's just the riff.

00:32:31 [Speaker 4]
The riff I've been holding on to for all years.
00:32:33 [Speaker 4]
This was not that.
00:32:34 [Speaker 4]
This was a, this was like a a fresh, you know, let's ride a new one.
00:32:39 [Speaker 4]
Didn't necessarily have much in the way of demos, to it coming in.
00:32:45 [Speaker 4]
But I think what it really was was was the line, what remains of me when the wolves let go.

00:32:50 [Speaker 4]
I feel like that just kinda popped for for everybody.
00:32:53 [Speaker 4]
We're like, oh, you know, this is a that's a really cool like, we can construct a whole song around this concept.
00:33:00 [Speaker 4]
And I feel like it's super relatable, like, sort of, you know, giving too much of yourself in any kind of situation and just but you but you do that because you don't know what it's like on the other side.
00:33:10 [Speaker 4]
Like, are people gonna still, you know, want me in their lives if I'm not, you know, constantly giving to to whatever situation it is?
00:33:17 [Speaker 4]
So it just I felt like, lyrically, it and conceptually, it made sense right off the bat.

00:33:23 [Speaker 4]
So that part was easy.
00:33:24 [Speaker 4]
And then we just kinda got into the to that, you know, main riff.
00:33:29 [Speaker 4]
And so and that landed, and that was like, oh, this this is a really groovy kind of, chuggy heavy riff.
00:33:36 [Speaker 4]
And, I think from there, we just started constructing it, you know, verse, chorus, blah blah blah, and just it it it went pretty fast, I'd I'd say.

00:33:46 [Speaker 3]
And when you went to Juan for the video, I know Juan is sort of a he doesn't miss a beat, man.
00:33:53 [Speaker 3]
And when he when you give him an idea or you just give him the song already in his mind, it the visual is happening.
00:34:01 [Speaker 3]
So when you got to Juan right?
00:34:03 [Speaker 3]
I'm assuming you went you went to his studio.
00:34:05 [Speaker 3]
Right?

00:34:06 [Speaker 4]
Well, so he actually flew out to us, which is kind of a rare thing these days.
00:34:11 [Speaker 4]
Oh.

00:34:11 [Speaker 2]
He's got you

00:34:12 [Speaker 4]
know, as you his his studio is great.
00:34:14 [Speaker 4]
He's kitted out all kinds

00:34:15 [Speaker 3]
of stuff.
00:34:15 [Speaker 3]
It's massive.

00:34:16 [Speaker 4]
It's, like, ready to go.
00:34:18 [Speaker 4]
If for whatever reason, I think we, I think we we had had probably just about enough of travel, and so we convinced him to come out here and bring his stuff.
00:34:28 [Speaker 4]
But, you know, you're right about Juan.
00:34:30 [Speaker 4]
Juan, it and this is it's definitely it's if you need to be willing to give control to the sit to JT and everything that he does because they'll just tell him a concept.
00:34:40 [Speaker 4]
He might just even listen to the song and be like, oh, I know what to do.

00:34:43 [Speaker 4]
Just just come.
00:34:44 [Speaker 4]
I we I will handle it.
00:34:45 [Speaker 4]
And it's like, okay.
00:34:47 [Speaker 4]
You don't want any, like, are you sure you got a good idea here?
00:34:49 [Speaker 4]
It always works out with him.

00:34:51 [Speaker 4]
It's unbelievable.

00:34:52 [Speaker 3]
Every time.

00:34:53 [Speaker 4]
Every time.
00:34:54 [Speaker 4]
It's crazy.
00:34:55 [Speaker 4]
So so yeah.
00:34:56 [Speaker 4]
So he came out to us, and we actually filmed we did that black and white, lyric video first, and we had intended for that to be sort of the the music video.
00:35:08 [Speaker 4]
You know, conceptually, it was really cool, but, we were I I don't feel like we quite got as much from, like, a story perspective as we wanted to.

00:35:18 [Speaker 4]
You know, when we're everything was said and done, we just didn't get enough footage of story stuff, I don't feel like, to really, like, stitch something together and make it, you know, a little bit a little bit grander scale, really, which is what we were looking for.
00:35:31 [Speaker 4]
So he came he came back out.
00:35:34 [Speaker 4]
We we we were just talking about it over and over.
00:35:35 [Speaker 4]
I'm like, let's just do it.
00:35:36 [Speaker 4]
Let's do another one.

00:35:37 [Speaker 4]
I mean, we got this great kick ass thing already.
00:35:41 [Speaker 4]
It looks great.
00:35:41 [Speaker 4]
It it you know, let's make that, like, a cool visualizer thing, and then let's do, like, a more cinematic, like, story driven concept.
00:35:51 [Speaker 4]
So we we headed up to the mountains in a in a cabin and totally did this, you know, kinda creepy horror film vibe thing with the with the wolf mask and everything, and it's, that was a lot of fun to make.
00:36:03 [Speaker 4]
So it's yeah.

00:36:05 [Speaker 4]
Turned out good.

00:36:07 [Speaker 3]
Okay.
00:36:07 [Speaker 3]
Well, we have the video.
00:36:09 [Speaker 3]
Right, Kevin?

00:36:10 [Speaker 2]
We do.

00:36:11 [Speaker 3]
Got it?
00:36:11 [Speaker 3]
We do.

00:36:12 [Speaker 2]
We do.
00:36:13 [Speaker 2]
We watch it.

00:36:14 [Speaker 3]
Yeah.
00:36:14 [Speaker 3]
We're gonna.

00:36:15 [Speaker 2]
We're right.
00:36:16 [Speaker 2]
We're we're going to watch it, and then we are gonna talk some more because I wanna talk about one of my favorite venues in the world that you guys got to play.

00:36:26 [Speaker 4]
Yeah.
00:36:27 [Speaker 4]
Let's do it.

00:36:28 [Speaker 2]
So we'll talk about that when we come back.
00:36:29 [Speaker 2]
But here is Wake Me.
00:36:31 [Speaker 2]
It is Wolves, and you're watching the sound.

00:36:51 [Speaker 4]
I've carried wounds as a second skin,

00:39:56 [Speaker 2]
Damn.

00:39:57 [Speaker 3]
So damn good.
00:39:58 [Speaker 3]
And Chris Dawson

00:39:59 [Speaker 2]
is I I was just gonna I was just

00:40:00 [Speaker 3]
gonna say Vernon.

00:40:02 [Speaker 2]
Chris Chris Chris is in the chat.
00:40:04 [Speaker 2]
And, Oh, nice.
00:40:06 [Speaker 2]
His question was, how did we write an entire song without a single tom fill and it's still sick AF?

00:40:12 [Speaker 4]
That's true.
00:40:13 [Speaker 4]
I wasn't gonna give away the the secret sauce with this, but You know, that, it's yeah.
00:40:20 [Speaker 4]
That one just turned out so good.
00:40:22 [Speaker 4]
Just a complete song.
00:40:24 [Speaker 4]
We and we knew it when we're recording it too.

00:40:26 [Speaker 4]
So I'm super, excited to be finally kinda giving it the runway it deserves.

00:40:33 [Speaker 2]
And, and that's that's where I was kinda that was one of the questions I had with No One Is Safe, Buried All, Creature of Habit, Wolves, The Void EP, all in this current era.
00:40:44 [Speaker 2]
Was there one song that represents where wake me is headed next?
00:40:47 [Speaker 2]
Is that it?

00:40:49 [Speaker 4]
You know, I I feel like we kinda have two sides to us.
00:40:52 [Speaker 4]
There's there's that side, which is kind of like the heavier type of sound where we can explore, you know, some vocals that are a little bit more aggressive, which I I really like to do.
00:41:03 [Speaker 4]
But we also you know, if you listen to the void and with the, you know, songs like that where they're a little bit more, like, catch your breath kinda, you know, there's a hint of r and b in it.
00:41:14 [Speaker 4]
I love doing those as well.
00:41:16 [Speaker 4]
So I I feel like we're always gonna try to get, like, a super agro song, you know, a handful of those and maybe some, like, kinda softer, more groovier songs and just, you know, as a package if we can.

00:41:29 [Speaker 2]
Nice.
00:41:29 [Speaker 2]
So my my my thing that I wanted to talk to you about so I guess I was 17 or 18, and I I got to be at an event at Red Rocks.
00:41:41 [Speaker 2]
And you've played Red Rocks.

00:41:43 [Speaker 4]
Yeah.

00:41:44 [Speaker 2]
How cool is it to walk on that stage in that atmosphere?
00:41:51 [Speaker 2]
And I think you guys I think it was with five finger death punch.

00:41:54 [Speaker 4]
Yep.
00:41:54 [Speaker 4]
That's right.

00:41:55 [Speaker 2]
So, I mean, how cool is it to walk onto that stage with that atmosphere?

00:41:59 [Speaker 4]
Well, I mean, so a 100% legendary venue.
00:42:04 [Speaker 4]
Also, you know, growing up around the area Right.
00:42:07 [Speaker 4]
Going to shows up there all the time.
00:42:10 [Speaker 4]
It so the first thing I'll say is from the time we loaded in, like, the crew, the the the staff, the event staff, they know how big of a deal it is for bands, and they will treat you like that, which is awesome.
00:42:24 [Speaker 4]
I mean Wow.

00:42:25 [Speaker 4]
You don't that doesn't always happen.
00:42:27 [Speaker 4]
You know?
00:42:27 [Speaker 4]
You Right.
00:42:27 [Speaker 4]
You go to a show, you know, you go to a venue, you might get big timed by whoever.
00:42:31 [Speaker 4]
You know what I mean?

00:42:32 [Speaker 4]
It's just it's weird stuff like that sometimes, and you just kinda you know, you could take it with a grain of salt.
00:42:37 [Speaker 4]
It's all it's all fun.
00:42:39 [Speaker 4]
But that show in particular, I felt like, you know, they were they made sure that we didn't carry a single thing.
00:42:48 [Speaker 4]
You know, it was like, you guys are this is you're playing Red Rocks.
00:42:51 [Speaker 4]
You're not lifting your amps.

00:42:52 [Speaker 4]
You're not, you know this you know, they they just went over the top to make sure that it was memorable for us more than just, you know, getting to play there.
00:43:00 [Speaker 4]
So that was awesome.
00:43:02 [Speaker 4]
Getting to sort of explore the, the guts of the of the venue Yeah.
00:43:07 [Speaker 4]
An artist who's gonna be playing was super cool, and surreal.
00:43:11 [Speaker 4]
You know, you saw huge names, you know, just on posters and signatures, and then there's the famous you know, there's that tunnel that sort of there's a stairway in a tunnel that goes up to the sound booth, and it is sort of famous for having signatures of essentially everyone who's played there.

00:43:29 [Speaker 4]
I mean, there are insane names down there.
00:43:31 [Speaker 4]
And so, you know, we got to put ours in there too.
00:43:34 [Speaker 4]
But, I think the coolest thing this has not happened since is sort of in the middle of our set, I got a chance to, like, disengage from the performance for a second and just, you know, let my let my mind actually take in what was happening.
00:43:55 [Speaker 4]
It was super cool.
00:43:56 [Speaker 4]
I I I don't think I've not really been able to do that very many times, in my music playing career where I just actually get to be present and be like, wow.

00:44:05 [Speaker 4]
Like, but just look out from the stage at, you know, all all these people, the beautiful venue, the lights.
00:44:11 [Speaker 4]
I was like, this is pretty awesome.
00:44:14 [Speaker 4]
And then, you know, snap back into don't forget this part, you know, the next part as you're trying to

00:44:18 [Speaker 3]
The bucket list moment.

00:44:20 [Speaker 4]
It totally was.

00:44:21 [Speaker 3]
Yeah.

00:44:22 [Speaker 4]
Completely surreal.
00:44:23 [Speaker 4]
And then, you know, another cool thing is that the visitor center and I'm not actually sure.
00:44:27 [Speaker 4]
I I think they still have this, but they have this, like, plaque, this running plaque of all the shows they've ever, hosted at the at the venue.
00:44:36 [Speaker 4]
And, you know, they list the headliners and the openers and everybody, and we're on there now.

00:44:40 [Speaker 2]
Nice.
00:44:41 [Speaker 2]
But,

00:44:42 [Speaker 4]
you know, just a cool, thing that I frankly, you you don't know if you ever get to do something like that, when you when you play music.
00:44:51 [Speaker 4]
So I it was awesome.

00:44:53 [Speaker 3]
Field trip for the kids in ten years.
00:44:55 [Speaker 3]
Right?

00:44:55 [Speaker 4]
Yeah.
00:44:56 [Speaker 4]
100%.
00:44:57 [Speaker 4]
That's right.
00:44:57 [Speaker 4]
Yep.

00:44:58 [Speaker 3]
Wait.
00:44:58 [Speaker 3]
The grandchildren, come on.
00:44:59 [Speaker 3]
We're going to Red Rocks.

00:45:01 [Speaker 2]
There you go.
00:45:03 [Speaker 2]
So you look at the year 2026 and where music in the industry is headed with how you release songs and all of that.
00:45:13 [Speaker 2]
So is it harder to write a great song, or is it harder to get people to listen to it?

00:45:19 [Speaker 4]
I think it's harder to get people to listen.
00:45:21 [Speaker 4]
I mean, it's it's not easy to write a great song, but you I mean, you work with somebody like Chris, and it's you're gonna get something good.

00:45:28 [Speaker 2]
You know?

00:45:29 [Speaker 4]
Like, you're you're bound to get something awesome.
00:45:32 [Speaker 4]
So it's like, I I'm less worried about, like, coming away from a from a session of his with nothing to show for it.
00:45:39 [Speaker 4]
You know what I mean?
00:45:40 [Speaker 4]
Like, bummed out, you know, not having a song.
00:45:42 [Speaker 4]
At least one where I'm like, oh, man.

00:45:44 [Speaker 4]
This thing.

00:45:44 [Speaker 2]
This song.

00:45:46 [Speaker 4]
So it and I don't know.
00:45:48 [Speaker 4]
That's probably a little bit of a I might we might be spoiled in that way, but I do feel like everything that comes afterward, you know, with how you have to promote it and who you have to get involved, and then you're you're crossing your fingers for, like, playlists or whatever.

00:46:02 [Speaker 2]
Right.

00:46:03 [Speaker 4]
You're just hoping that you can ride a wave, you know, essentially.
00:46:09 [Speaker 4]
But it but it's totally out of your control in in a lot of respects.
00:46:12 [Speaker 4]
So, you know, I do think it's harder to to catch a wave and kinda get get people to tune into it, but, you know, it you can get caught up in thinking that way, and we certainly have.
00:46:24 [Speaker 4]
It's far better just to try to make something that you like to listen to, you know, and that you'll show your friends.
00:46:31 [Speaker 4]
If you can just do that, then, you know, whatever else comes out of it is just, you know, gravy.

00:46:39 [Speaker 2]
Yeah.
00:46:40 [Speaker 2]
I I just that's that's the thing with me is and and and watching so down in this area where I'm at, I I deal with a lot of independent bands and and watching them get their stuff up and and going and promoting.
00:46:55 [Speaker 2]
And and the next thing you hear is, how many how many, how many monthly listeners do we have and and things like that.
00:47:04 [Speaker 2]
And it's just it it listening to them and and the struggle of getting people to listen to the song.

00:47:11 [Speaker 4]
Mhmm.
00:47:11 [Speaker 4]
That's

00:47:12 [Speaker 2]
that's kinda where I sit there, and I was just like, I can't I can't imagine as an artist the struggle, and what you're saying, crossing the fingers, hoping for a playlist, doing doing things like that, how how tough it is to sit back and just out of your control.
00:47:32 [Speaker 2]
And, one of the things I love to say is control what you can control.
00:47:36 [Speaker 2]
That's one thing you can't control, and and and it's tough.
00:47:39 [Speaker 2]
So I was just curious to get to get your side side of things on that one.
00:47:44 [Speaker 2]
So

00:47:45 [Speaker 4]
Yeah.
00:47:45 [Speaker 4]
Yeah.
00:47:45 [Speaker 4]
I I think it's it can be it can be definitely, like, a word of attrition in terms of, like, the bands that stick around and those that don't.
00:47:53 [Speaker 4]
Because if you spend too much time worrying about that, you lose sight of what you get out of making music, I think.
00:48:02 [Speaker 4]
I mean, I'm totally guilty of it.

00:48:03 [Speaker 4]
I can there's a specific instance.
00:48:06 [Speaker 4]
I think this show was either earlier this year this year or late last year and just kinda not having a great time mentally with, you know, the whole thing.
00:48:17 [Speaker 4]
I I think I was just focusing on the wrong stuff.
00:48:19 [Speaker 4]
We played a show, and this couple came up to me, and they they were just saying they were talking about a specific song that we have that that really meant a lot to them just because of of what I wrote it about with losing my dad.
00:48:34 [Speaker 4]
And they're like, oh, you know, we I lost my dad too.

00:48:36 [Speaker 4]
And I was just like, oh, thank you so much for reminding me why this is so great.
00:48:42 [Speaker 4]
Because it's not, you know, monthly listeners and all that stuff.
00:48:45 [Speaker 4]
That's awesome if you can, you know, if you can get that.
00:48:48 [Speaker 4]
But if you're, you know, if you're not, you know, catching some big wave or something, you can at least connect to people, and that's really the best part of it, I think.

00:48:58 [Speaker 3]
I mean, isn't that the reason that musicians I mean, true musicians, people who actually want to be out there performing in the world, that's the reason that they're putting their products out there.
00:49:06 [Speaker 3]
They want they want someone else to feel with them.

00:49:10 [Speaker 4]
That's right.

00:49:11 [Speaker 3]
You need someone else to connect with you and to feel your emotions, your pain.

00:49:16 [Speaker 4]
Yeah.
00:49:17 [Speaker 4]
And it's it's easy to forget that, you know, with all this other, you know, stuff going on with with being a band these days, you know, making Instagram content and all this, that, and the other.
00:49:26 [Speaker 4]
It's like, don't forget what, you know, what the real thing is all about.

00:49:31 [Speaker 2]
Right.

00:49:32 [Speaker 3]
Right.
00:49:33 [Speaker 3]
But the business side of it then is also the content portion because, you know, social media is literally a running advertisement.
00:49:43 [Speaker 3]
It's all

00:49:43 [Speaker 4]
it is.

00:49:43 [Speaker 3]
It's a running commercial for whatever it is that you wanna talk about.
00:49:47 [Speaker 3]
And so you have to have something that's out there.
00:49:50 [Speaker 3]
So, like, when you said that you had the the visualizer, but then you went back to Juan and said we need to tell more of the story, that content is important because that's how people get to understand and feel what you're trying to say to them.

00:50:04 [Speaker 4]
That's right.

00:50:04 [Speaker 3]
You know?
00:50:05 [Speaker 3]
I mean, if we if we go back to the originations of what MTV do you remember?
00:50:10 [Speaker 3]
I don't know how old you are.
00:50:11 [Speaker 3]
But if you go back to when when and, you know, when injustice for all came out by Metallica Yeah.
00:50:18 [Speaker 3]
And Metallica was, like, one of the last bands standing saying, no.

00:50:21 [Speaker 3]
We're not gonna make a music video.
00:50:24 [Speaker 3]
And, man, they caved.
00:50:26 [Speaker 3]
Yeah.
00:50:27 [Speaker 3]
Because it worked.

00:50:29 [Speaker 4]
Yeah.

00:50:30 [Speaker 2]
Right?
00:50:30 [Speaker 2]
All of that

00:50:31 [Speaker 4]
It's a it's a great way to, like, creatively, it's a great way to creatively, communicate what, you know, the feeling that you're trying to go for in in a song.
00:50:43 [Speaker 4]
So it is it it is a nice, like, alternative creative outlet other than just just the music.
00:50:48 [Speaker 4]
So, you know, like, it's not I I do like making music videos.
00:50:52 [Speaker 4]
It's, I think making the, you know, the the, hey.
00:50:57 [Speaker 4]
This is calling you know, like, doing all the the content stuff.

00:51:00 [Speaker 4]
That's a little bit trickier, but, in terms of, like, my desire to do that.
00:51:04 [Speaker 4]
But but the the music videos are fun.
00:51:06 [Speaker 4]
Yeah.

00:51:07 [Speaker 3]
I feel like people sort of feel like it's just imposter syndrome.
00:51:10 [Speaker 3]
You know?
00:51:10 [Speaker 3]
It's like Oh, yeah.
00:51:11 [Speaker 3]
I'm just this people because people don't see the human being.
00:51:16 [Speaker 3]
No.

00:51:16 [Speaker 3]
They don't see the husband or the father or the brother.
00:51:19 [Speaker 3]
You know what I mean?
00:51:19 [Speaker 3]
They don't see that person.
00:51:20 [Speaker 3]
They just see the guy in the band, and that's what they're connecting with.
00:51:25 [Speaker 3]
And so for for you, the human being, to then pick up the phone and be like, hey.

00:51:30 [Speaker 3]
You know?
00:51:31 [Speaker 3]
And try and do something that you wouldn't normally do.
00:51:34 [Speaker 3]
It it it tends to feel very awkward.
00:51:36 [Speaker 3]
I am curious, though, if you weren't making music, what would you be doing with

00:51:41 [Speaker 4]
your life?
00:51:42 [Speaker 4]
Well, so Justin and I actually met in engineering school, and that is actually what we do kinda to, you know, as a day job or what you know, whenever we're not doing the music stuff, or, you know, sometimes and I I know a lot of guys out there in bands feel this way.
00:52:03 [Speaker 4]
You need to make some money to fund what you're doing here because it's, you know.

00:52:07 [Speaker 3]
What kind of engineering?

00:52:08 [Speaker 4]
I'm I'm a mechanical engineer, and, Justin is electrical.

00:52:12 [Speaker 3]
So Okay.

00:52:13 [Speaker 4]
We sort of grudgingly, at least for me, you know, go do that job, which, you know, is it's whatever.
00:52:22 [Speaker 4]
It's it's a job, but it's certainly not what I'm passionate about.
00:52:26 [Speaker 4]
Like, it's not there are people that I know who who really are like, oh, that's an engineer.
00:52:31 [Speaker 4]
Like, that's a doctor.
00:52:32 [Speaker 4]
Like, if you ask them, you know, how to describe yourself, that's what they would say.

00:52:36 [Speaker 4]
And I, you know, I don't feel that way at all.
00:52:38 [Speaker 4]
I if you wanna talk about imposter syndrome, I think for that, I definitely wear a mask all the time.
00:52:44 [Speaker 4]
And it's like, I'm just trying to, you know, fake it till I make it over here because Right.
00:52:48 [Speaker 4]
I feel like I'm what I really am is a musician who's trying to do that, and then on the side, I have to do this other stuff.
00:52:54 [Speaker 4]
So Same.

00:52:58 [Speaker 3]
Same.
00:52:59 [Speaker 3]
Gemini and I will both tell you.
00:53:01 [Speaker 3]
I mean, obviously, neither one of us are musicians, but music is our passion.
00:53:04 [Speaker 3]
We love talking about it, but we got day jobs.

00:53:08 [Speaker 4]
No.
00:53:08 [Speaker 4]
And and

00:53:09 [Speaker 2]
I literally told Chet from them guys the other day.
00:53:13 [Speaker 2]
I was like, why can't I just be able to do music full time?
00:53:18 [Speaker 2]
Whatever I do, I've I can't play music.
00:53:20 [Speaker 2]
So Yeah.
00:53:21 [Speaker 2]
But all the other stuff I do, I was like, why can't I just do this full time and be done with it?

00:53:25 [Speaker 4]
Right.
00:53:26 [Speaker 4]
Stay

00:53:26 [Speaker 3]
down.
00:53:27 [Speaker 3]
Every day when the alarm goes off at 05:30 because I have to do my music stuff before I actually go to the real job.
00:53:33 [Speaker 3]
Right.

00:53:33 [Speaker 2]
You know,

00:53:33 [Speaker 3]
the day job?

00:53:34 [Speaker 4]
Yeah.

00:53:34 [Speaker 3]
Yeah.
00:53:34 [Speaker 3]
And then I'm just, like, walking in there at 07:30 in the morning, like, and my head's racing through other stuff, and I'm like, need to focus on the day job.

00:53:42 [Speaker 2]
Yeah.
00:53:42 [Speaker 2]
Right?

00:53:43 [Speaker 3]
And then at night, here I am back again.
00:53:45 [Speaker 3]
Came back from the day job.
00:53:46 [Speaker 3]
Here we are.
00:53:46 [Speaker 3]
You know?
00:53:47 [Speaker 3]
So I'm sure it's the same thing for you.

00:53:48 [Speaker 3]
It's a never ending cycle when you love something as much as music or anything really, but in our in all of our cases, it's music.
00:53:56 [Speaker 3]
And you love something so much that you would do it for free.

00:54:00 [Speaker 2]
Mhmm.
00:54:01 [Speaker 2]
Yep.

00:54:02 [Speaker 4]
And and sometimes you do it for the cost of we pay you to do it.
00:54:06 [Speaker 4]
That that happens too.
00:54:07 [Speaker 4]
You know?
00:54:07 [Speaker 4]
Because a lot you know, a lot of times you'll play a show and it doesn't pencil out.
00:54:11 [Speaker 4]
Well, you know, cool.

00:54:12 [Speaker 4]
We we at least we got to play, but it you know?
00:54:15 [Speaker 4]
Yeah.
00:54:15 [Speaker 4]
It's, the economics of it aren't always great, and it's just the reality.
00:54:19 [Speaker 4]
You know?
00:54:19 [Speaker 4]
You kinda just do what you have to do.

00:54:22 [Speaker 3]
Right.
00:54:22 [Speaker 3]
So okay.
00:54:24 [Speaker 3]
No.
00:54:24 [Speaker 3]
No.
00:54:24 [Speaker 3]
No.

00:54:24 [Speaker 3]
No.
00:54:24 [Speaker 3]
Go.
00:54:25 [Speaker 3]
Go.

00:54:25 [Speaker 2]
Well, I was gonna say, so, have you gotten to to a point where is there anything personally in the music business?
00:54:33 [Speaker 2]
And I know there's goals and there's huge things that and ideas and all of that.
00:54:38 [Speaker 2]
But is there anything that you haven't accomplished yet, like a collaboration with somebody that you're wanting to do or a certain festival or anything like that?

00:54:47 [Speaker 4]
Oh, yeah.
00:54:48 [Speaker 4]
I mean, the the that list is limitless.
00:54:51 [Speaker 4]
I there's so much Just from headlining a a big arena show or headlining Red Rocks, that'd be a great thing.
00:55:00 [Speaker 4]
Like, selling out a a big show like that.
00:55:03 [Speaker 4]
Going on tour with some of our favorite bands would be amazing.

00:55:09 [Speaker 4]
Well, they Let's put

00:55:11 [Speaker 3]
it into the universe.

00:55:12 [Speaker 4]
Well, I'm gonna go all the way to the top, but, you know, Metallica would be, you know, absolutely, you know, any any, any band's dream.
00:55:23 [Speaker 4]
Right?
00:55:23 [Speaker 4]
Any rock band's dream.
00:55:24 [Speaker 4]
And then there's bands like Bringing the Horizon and Nothing More and, you know, there's the the list is is quite long.
00:55:32 [Speaker 4]
And so I think, yeah, to to answer your question, there's there's a ton of stuff that that, you know, is out there that I wanna be able to accomplish and the band wants to be able to accomplish.

00:55:42 [Speaker 4]
And I think also too just musically, I I've always said to the guys, I'm like, if ever for me, if ever we walk away from a from a recording session and I'm like, oh, we did everything perfect.
00:55:55 [Speaker 4]
Like, there's nothing else I would do.
00:55:57 [Speaker 4]
Like, that's probably when I'll stop playing because I, you know

00:56:00 [Speaker 2]
Wow.

00:56:00 [Speaker 4]
That's what Yeah.
00:56:01 [Speaker 4]
Doing is I'm thinking about all this stuff.
00:56:03 [Speaker 4]
I'm like, oh, man.
00:56:04 [Speaker 4]
I wasn't able to, like, execute this type of sound that I really wanted to get.
00:56:09 [Speaker 4]
So I'll spend the next six months working on it to get those techniques down so that the next time we go in, I'm I'm, you know, getting the things that I didn't get last time or, like, we didn't write a song.

00:56:21 [Speaker 4]
Like, we haven't written a song that sounds like this.
00:56:22 [Speaker 4]
You know what I mean?
00:56:23 [Speaker 4]
There's always something that you're trying to, like that you wanna go back for, or or else it's like, man, it's be hard to go back to the studio if you felt like you did it all.
00:56:31 [Speaker 4]
You know?
00:56:31 [Speaker 4]
So, there's there's just a ton of stuff.

00:56:35 [Speaker 4]
But I think the the important thing is is that the journey you can't be focused on the goals because there's a lot of there's a lot of let down when you're in Yep.
00:56:46 [Speaker 4]
Bank.
00:56:46 [Speaker 4]
Right?
00:56:47 [Speaker 4]
There's a lot of rejection.
00:56:48 [Speaker 4]
Industry is I mean, that's just yeah.

00:56:50 [Speaker 4]
The industry is brutal.
00:56:51 [Speaker 4]
Yeah.
00:56:51 [Speaker 4]
So you just gotta enjoy the moments like the Red Rock show or you know, honestly, this this ride with Wolves has been awesome.
00:56:57 [Speaker 4]
I mean, I'm trying to, like, really just experience and enjoy what's happening with it.
00:57:03 [Speaker 4]
So that that's a big focus.

00:57:07 [Speaker 3]
So what's coming up then for the rest of the year for you guys?
00:57:11 [Speaker 3]
Because September is, like, next week.

00:57:15 [Speaker 2]
Hush your mouth.

00:57:16 [Speaker 3]
But You just announced a Christmas show.

00:57:23 [Speaker 4]
Damn.
00:57:26 [Speaker 4]
So I Sorry.
00:57:27 [Speaker 4]
I

00:57:31 [Speaker 3]
I don't do that to him that often, but I warranted it.
00:57:34 [Speaker 3]
Hey.
00:57:35 [Speaker 3]
I announced a Christmas show.
00:57:36 [Speaker 3]
Anyway, so the rest of the year is we're here.
00:57:39 [Speaker 3]
We're closing it out.

00:57:41 [Speaker 3]
What is going on with Whitney for the rest of the year?

00:57:46 [Speaker 4]
Yeah.
00:57:46 [Speaker 4]
So, it is crazy.
00:57:48 [Speaker 4]
It's it's getting late early,

00:57:50 [Speaker 2]
around here.

00:57:50 [Speaker 4]
But at the, so we've got a couple of shows.
00:57:52 [Speaker 4]
We we got on with the Archers here in town in Denver on the October 5.
00:57:57 [Speaker 4]
And, there's a there's another band, Pink Noise, on that bill who, Love them.
00:58:03 [Speaker 4]
Love them.

00:58:04 [Speaker 2]
Is it isn't Autumn Kings on that too?

00:58:07 [Speaker 4]
Yep.
00:58:08 [Speaker 4]
It's gonna be a

00:58:09 [Speaker 2]
good bill.
00:58:09 [Speaker 2]
I'm gonna I'm gonna see I'm gonna see that show in Pensacola, some next month, I think.

00:58:14 [Speaker 4]
That's awesome.
00:58:15 [Speaker 4]
Yeah.
00:58:15 [Speaker 4]
That should be a a great bill.
00:58:17 [Speaker 4]
That's gonna be a blast.
00:58:18 [Speaker 4]
We love the Marquee Theater is so much fun.

00:58:21 [Speaker 4]
And, then in on on November 20, I think we can announce this.
00:58:26 [Speaker 4]
If not, I'm gonna do it.
00:58:27 [Speaker 4]
The so we got on with the tribute at, in Grand Junction at the Mesa Theater.
00:58:33 [Speaker 4]
So we're super stoked about that as well.
00:58:36 [Speaker 4]
That's that's actually and that's, there you go.

00:58:41 [Speaker 4]
That's a band I've been listening to for forever, and so it's gonna be, like, a personal, like, you know, I I'm gonna be very personally satisfied to have shared the stage with those guys.
00:58:50 [Speaker 4]
So that's gonna be awesome.
00:58:52 [Speaker 4]
But, you know, other than that, we're we're just we're just, riding riding the wolf's train, honestly.
00:58:58 [Speaker 4]
Like, doing you know, everything that we're we're doing is kinda focused on that and trying to get it into as many ears as we can.

00:59:07 [Speaker 3]
And are you going back to the studio into the new year?

00:59:11 [Speaker 4]
We are.
00:59:11 [Speaker 4]
We are.
00:59:12 [Speaker 4]
We're, so we're going back to to Chris'.
00:59:15 [Speaker 4]
We we need to put the finishing touches on just a couple more tunes to round out the the record.
00:59:21 [Speaker 4]
So we're gonna be doing that, and, you know, hopefully get everything wrapped up in the next with the next session, and then we'll have to go back to JT's.

00:59:29 [Speaker 4]
I think, actually, it'll be later in September and try to knock out some more some more music videos.
00:59:36 [Speaker 4]
So we we do have kinda that stuff.
00:59:37 [Speaker 4]
It feels like we're always doing that, honestly, just throughout just these little sessions throughout the year.
00:59:42 [Speaker 4]
So that's gonna continue.

00:59:44 [Speaker 3]
Right.
00:59:44 [Speaker 3]
So that way for, like, first quarter or the beginning of second quarter next year

00:59:49 [Speaker 4]
Yep.
00:59:49 [Speaker 4]
You got it.

00:59:50 [Speaker 3]
Already laid out and done for you.
00:59:51 [Speaker 3]
You just have to go ahead and and execute.
00:59:54 [Speaker 3]
So that's really exciting.
00:59:56 [Speaker 3]
So, thank you for coming on here and talking with us.
00:59:59 [Speaker 3]
It's been an insane pleasure.

01:00:01 [Speaker 3]
This has been a great interview.
01:00:03 [Speaker 3]
Thank you, guys.

01:00:04 [Speaker 4]
I haven't

01:00:04 [Speaker 2]
done yet.

01:00:05 [Speaker 4]
Oh, you're oh, awesome.

01:00:07 [Speaker 2]
She's not used to it.
01:00:08 [Speaker 2]
I started something new last week, and she's not used to it.

01:00:11 [Speaker 3]
Right.
01:00:11 [Speaker 3]
Right.
01:00:11 [Speaker 3]
Right.
01:00:12 [Speaker 3]
Go ahead.
01:00:12 [Speaker 3]
The little

01:00:12 [Speaker 2]
the little rapid fire questions at the end.
01:00:14 [Speaker 2]
The stupid nothing to do with music questions.
01:00:19 [Speaker 2]
Alright.
01:00:19 [Speaker 2]
So Waffle House at 2AM or Taco Bell?

01:00:22 [Speaker 4]
Oh, Taco Bell.

01:00:24 [Speaker 2]
Dogs or cats?

01:00:26 [Speaker 4]
That's a toughie, dude.
01:00:28 [Speaker 4]
Probably dogs, but I love cats.

01:00:30 [Speaker 2]
I gotcha.
01:00:31 [Speaker 2]
Mountains or beach?

01:00:33 [Speaker 4]
Mountains for me, beach for my wife.

01:00:34 [Speaker 2]
Gotcha.
01:00:35 [Speaker 2]
Morning person or absolutely not?

01:00:38 [Speaker 4]
I'm becoming one as I get older.
01:00:40 [Speaker 4]
A morning person.

01:00:42 [Speaker 2]
Coffee, energy drink, or raw dog in the morning?

01:00:46 [Speaker 4]
Coffee.
01:00:46 [Speaker 4]
Black.
01:00:47 [Speaker 4]
I can't do energy drinks anymore.
01:00:48 [Speaker 4]
It's too much.
01:00:49 [Speaker 4]
You.

01:00:50 [Speaker 4]
Yeah.

01:00:52 [Speaker 2]
One app you couldn't delete from your phone.

01:00:55 [Speaker 4]
Oh, god.
01:00:56 [Speaker 4]
I mean, that would have to be Spotify.
01:00:58 [Speaker 4]
I mean, unfortunately.

01:00:59 [Speaker 2]
I Or You mean look

01:01:00 [Speaker 4]
at it.

01:01:01 [Speaker 3]
Spotify for artists.

01:01:02 [Speaker 4]
The well, there's that too.
01:01:04 [Speaker 4]
Yeah.
01:01:04 [Speaker 4]
That yeah.
01:01:05 [Speaker 4]
But that you know, I'm on Spotify for all I mean, podcasts, music, you know, all kinds of stuff.
01:01:09 [Speaker 4]
It it's it it takes up a ridiculous amount of my my screen time and everything.

01:01:15 [Speaker 2]
Aliens, real or bullshit?

01:01:16 [Speaker 4]
Oh, real.
01:01:17 [Speaker 4]
100%.

01:01:18 [Speaker 2]
Ghost, real or bullshit?

01:01:20 [Speaker 4]
Real.

01:01:21 [Speaker 2]
Alright.
01:01:21 [Speaker 2]
Last two.
01:01:22 [Speaker 2]
Zombie apocalypse.
01:01:23 [Speaker 2]
Which member awake me survives the longest?

01:01:25 [Speaker 4]
Oh, man.
01:01:26 [Speaker 4]
I'm gonna go with Justin.

01:01:29 [Speaker 2]
And which member dies first?

01:01:31 [Speaker 4]
Well, unfortunately, I gotta say it, but Carlos.
01:01:36 [Speaker 4]
He's He's not gonna like that.

01:01:42 [Speaker 3]
That was fun.
01:01:43 [Speaker 3]
I like that.

01:01:43 [Speaker 4]
I like that.
01:01:44 [Speaker 4]
That was awesome.

01:01:45 [Speaker 3]
That was a lot of fun.
01:01:46 [Speaker 3]
So if people are looking to find your band, where is the where's the place that you're most active?

01:01:53 [Speaker 4]
We are most active on Instagram.
01:01:54 [Speaker 4]
So you will you know, responding to messages and all that.
01:01:57 [Speaker 4]
Please DM us.
01:01:57 [Speaker 4]
We love it.
01:01:59 [Speaker 4]
Send, you know, send us a message.

01:02:00 [Speaker 4]
We love having conversations with with people.
01:02:02 [Speaker 4]
So wake me official is the is the handle.
01:02:05 [Speaker 4]
And, yeah, I you feel free to do that.
01:02:08 [Speaker 4]
We we also through Facebook, same thing, wake me official.
01:02:11 [Speaker 4]
Not as active on there.

01:02:12 [Speaker 4]
But, yeah, hit us up on on Instagram, and we'll we'll have a chat.

01:02:16 [Speaker 3]
I love that.
01:02:17 [Speaker 3]
Well, thank you so much for your time.
01:02:19 [Speaker 3]
You've been an outstanding guest.
01:02:22 [Speaker 3]
You are welcome back anytime.
01:02:24 [Speaker 3]
And if there's anything that we can do for you here at the Sound, do not be afraid to slip into our DMs.

01:02:31 [Speaker 4]
Oh, absolutely.
01:02:32 [Speaker 4]
Just keep ripping wolves, and that'll be awesome.
01:02:34 [Speaker 4]
Thank you guys so much for your support.

01:02:36 [Speaker 3]
Oh, you're very welcome.

01:02:37 [Speaker 2]
We're on it, and thank you so much for joining us, Colin.

01:02:39 [Speaker 4]
Thank you.
01:02:40 [Speaker 4]
Guys.

01:02:40 [Speaker 2]
Alright.
01:02:41 [Speaker 2]
Have a good night.

01:02:42 [Speaker 4]
You too.

01:02:44 [Speaker 2]
Alright.
01:02:45 [Speaker 2]
Nice.

01:02:45 [Speaker 3]
Man, it's killer interview.
01:02:48 [Speaker 3]
I love that.
01:02:50 [Speaker 3]
Great conversation.

01:02:51 [Speaker 2]
Every now every I don't even know how it happens.

01:02:55 [Speaker 3]
The fucking because you were not on our phone line, Kevin.
01:02:58 [Speaker 3]
You have to be on your on your iPhone.

01:03:00 [Speaker 2]
No.
01:03:01 [Speaker 2]
It just showed up.
01:03:02 [Speaker 2]
Where?
01:03:03 [Speaker 2]
It was I just saw it.
01:03:05 [Speaker 2]
I don't know where it went, but it was there.

01:03:08 [Speaker 2]
I saw it.
01:03:09 [Speaker 2]
Okay.
01:03:10 [Speaker 2]
Jesus Christ.

01:03:11 [Speaker 3]
Oh, I know.

01:03:12 [Speaker 2]
So the the winner of the the the winner of the grudge match tonight is, our friends in Transient.

01:03:21 [Speaker 4]
So they

01:03:21 [Speaker 2]
will be moving on to next week's episode as we have one five six silence joining us Right.
01:03:27 [Speaker 2]
Next week.
01:03:28 [Speaker 2]
So Transient, I'm not sure who they'll be taking on yet.

01:03:32 [Speaker 3]
I'm sure it'll be something that'll piss everybody off.
01:03:34 [Speaker 3]
So don't worry, folks.
01:03:36 [Speaker 3]
Stay tuned.

01:03:37 [Speaker 2]
It'll it'll be yeah.
01:03:39 [Speaker 2]
I'll I'll have it figured out by tomorrow.
01:03:41 [Speaker 2]
I'll be in there because I don't wanna wait till Monday morning going, who's in the grudge match?

01:03:45 [Speaker 3]
And then figure it out real quick.
01:03:46 [Speaker 3]
Annoying.
01:03:47 [Speaker 3]
Yeah.
01:03:47 [Speaker 3]
The annoying message.
01:03:48 [Speaker 3]
Kevin.

01:03:49 [Speaker 2]
Yeah.
01:03:49 [Speaker 2]
But we'll get it done.
01:03:50 [Speaker 2]
But thank you for joining us tonight.
01:03:53 [Speaker 2]
What a pleasure it was to have Colin from WakeMe on, and, I hope one day they get back down or get down to Biloxi, Mississippi so I can see him.

01:04:02 [Speaker 3]
Come to Virginia.

01:04:04 [Speaker 2]
Right?

01:04:05 [Speaker 3]
Come my way.

01:04:06 [Speaker 2]
So, let's start those campaigns now.
01:04:09 [Speaker 2]
You guys know what to do.
01:04:11 [Speaker 2]
Start the campaigns of what city you want, you wanna see wake me in.
01:04:15 [Speaker 2]
Yeah.
01:04:16 [Speaker 2]
I'm gonna start it with Biloxi and Mobile and Pensacola and and Fort Walton and Destin and

01:04:22 [Speaker 3]
Okay.
01:04:22 [Speaker 3]
All of that is within Richmond?
01:04:25 [Speaker 3]
New Orleans.
01:04:27 [Speaker 3]
Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, Sayreville, New Jersey.
01:04:32 [Speaker 3]
Yeah.

01:04:33 [Speaker 3]
So yeah.
01:04:34 [Speaker 3]
Don't worry.

01:04:35 [Speaker 2]
Well, you guys have a you guys have a wonderful night, and we will talk to you next week.
01:04:40 [Speaker 2]
Until then, see you.

01:04:42 [Speaker 3]
Be good to each other.