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Are fundamentalists creating
absurd fictional scenario.
Suppose the trans agenda are those
who oppose medical practices, such
as giving puberty blockers to kids
as young as eight years old, or the
practice of chess binding, or if the
irreversible practices of putting
young kids in their early teens, even
underneath the knife to go irreversible
surgery of cutting off a reproductive.
Are those people just flippant and without
thoughts and consideration to the science.
And most importantly, how much
indoctrination, I mean, excuse me,
how much education is really needed
to come to the same morally superior
conclusion of the progressive social
constructionists Hey, it's Lucas Growbot,
and you're listening to the Lucas robot
show where we uncover purpose truth
and own the future episode 242 on July
21st, 2021 eat Kumo biotic to all of
my I'm Muslim friends across the globe.
Whether you are in the west in
America or Saudi Arabia here in
the league, eat Kuma Bata to you.
I hope you are enjoying this, eat
this holiday season with your family,
wherever you are, but today we're not
going to be talking about, uh, Or the
Islamic holidays, but today, instead we
are going to be covering a comment that
I received on an Instagram post, uh,
earlier this week from a longtime friend.
And he was commenting on a little clip,
a little segment from episode 238,
where we talked about in depth, uh, the
pitfalls, the dangers that I see, and many
other people see, many other scientists
see many other psychologists, see many
other doctors and PhDs and researchers
see when it comes to this trans agenda.
Many other parents see, so
I'm not alone, alone voice.
Oh dear.
You're crying out in the
wilderness about this.
I'm not a nut and you're not a nut either.
There are, there are many
people across the globe who
see glaring issues with this.
I received this comment.
We're going to go through this
comment and break it down as.
I think as we break down this
comment, uh, we'll be able to
draw some great conclusions.
And really we're talking about some,
we pull into this, uh, episode SIM
pretty shocking stories, uh, true story.
So stick around for that.
Now my, instead of responding
to this comment in the Instagram
comment section, uh, it was, there's
just too many layers to cover it.
So I thought it'd be
best to cover it here.
So before we go into this,
a juicy comment with you.
Raise so many questions in my mind
that I think do need to be addressed.
I'm going to play the clip.
The one minute clip from episode 238.
We need to break down the
alpha male stereotypes.
We need to break down
the woman in the kitchen.
Stereotypes.
We need to break down these, these
social constructions of gender.
Okay.
Yeah.
Wow.
Look, Luke Lucas broke those down.
Well, Lucas, his wife, Rachel.
She, she is her CrossFit level one.
She's actually a CrossFit coach.
I'm not wow.
That's gender.
Non-conforming you like lifting weights.
That's not very ladylike.
That's gender nonconforming.
We'd better start now while she's still
young to help reassign her to her.
Right gender.
Wait, wait a minute.
I thought this whole
time, the argument was.
Girls girls should be able to play
basketball and still be girls.
And boys should be able to be sensitive.
I was a sensitive kid.
Boys should be able to be sensitive
and love cooking and still be boys.
But now we're saying, oh no, if you're
not gender conforming, we need to actually
conform you to look like the other gender.
We need to transition you to become
not your biological male, that you are
not biologically female mature is okay.
You must have been born
in three wrong body.
This is the, this is the argument that
I really see coming out of this trans
agenda, this trans movement, which.
At the core of it, maybe not at the core
of it, there's so many different layers
that I see, but one of the things I see
that doesn't make sense to me is the
whole thing is saying that, well, gender
is, gender is socially constructed.
Gender is fluid.
And if gender is gender is fluid,
then why are we cutting things
off people's biological bodies?
If gender has nothing to do
with your biology, if they're
totally separate things.
And as we'll we'll hit on in this episode,
if gender, gender is fluid, w w how do
we know that a non-binary person looks
like the opposite of whatever that
biologically truly assigned person is?
I don't even know how to use the
right terms when it comes to this.
W what I mean is, if you are born
a male, how do we know that, uh,
a non-binary person does not have.
Male working parts.
If you are born a female, how do we know
that a non-binary person doesn't have
their, their female reproductive system?
This is one of the great
mysteries that I see.
And if you're fluid well, doesn't
that mean that later on in life,
you might turn back into what
you were in the first place?
Well, I'm confused by this whole
string of ideology, but apparently
my longtime friend, he was
confused by what I was saying.
So this is, I'm going to read
his comment in line by line.
We'll pause throughout his comment
to break down, uh, some of the
answers to what he is asking.
He starts with this.
So confused.
Where are you finding these ideas?
Wow.
I didn't come up with the trans
agenda ideas, but this is, this is
the ideology that is being pushed,
at least in everything that I've been
reading on, both the left and the right.
So I don't know how these
are ideas or fat, original.
He goes on and says, I can't help thinking
you have created scenarios to oppose that
have no bias in reality, can't help, but
thinking you have created scenarios to
pose that really have no basis in reality.
So the question do, do these ideas of,
of people being transitioned have no
basis in reality, of course they do.
I think what he's saying is my,
the hyperboles that I was making
in this one minute clip, right?
So th these, these one minute
clips that people myself included
are posting on Instagram.
Supposed to get you to think and
supposed to get you to run over to the
full episode, to listen where we break
down, oftentimes over the course of an
hour, the arguments that are being made.
But now when it comes to this point
of do, do these stories, is that
hyperbole that I'm making of well,
because you are struggling because you
have some confusion about your gender.
Therefore you must be the
opposite gender that you're born.
That seems to be the,
the forgone conclusion.
That seems to be the ASEP
accepted, uh, thesis and solution.
Before you even go into the.
If there's any sort of gender confusion.
Well, ah, that's it, you are supposed to
be something else than you already are.
Why, why isn't it the fact that,
well, if you're experiencing some
sort of gender confusion, you you're
experiencing gender confusion and you
are born emitted in your mother's room.
Exactly.
As you were supposed to as a biological
male or female, and maybe there are
other underlying issues, depression,
bullying, uh, abuse, uh, other
bipolar issues that are happening.
Other psychological issues that
are happening in a young person's
life that then further is driving
the confusion around identity.
And it seems to me that most of what
I'm reading and we're going to go into
two stories right now, true stories of.
Experiences of this happening.
It seems that the solution to the trauma
is, well, we need to change your gender.
Now, here, here are two stories
that come from the Mercader net.
And the, these stories are from
mothers, uh, who have written some
written in a nominal anonymously.
Others have written in using their
real names, sharing the experience that
they have had of school systems, uh,
infringing and stepping in undermining,
uh, parents and pushing young children
to, to transition quite quickly.
So the first.
It's titled I'm not transphobic, but what
happened to my daughter has broken my
heart and I'm going to read parts of it.
And I'm going to skim parts
of it for the sake of time.
Claire, not her real name was a perfectly
happy child, but she tended towards boyish
pursuits like soccer and TaeKwonDo, but
so did her mother, Sarah also pseudonym.
So Sarah thought little of it, her
tomboyish daughter took after her.
Where am I getting these ideas?
That quote unquote have
no basis in return?
Well, right here, stories of young
girls that have some boyish pursuits.
Okay.
That's great.
I love that.
I love that my boys are
tender and nurturing.
Does that mean that I think that
they're born in the wrong body?
No, I think it means that they're
going to be a great and nurturing.
Goes on, but her mental health
plummeted as she became an adolescent
Sarah's carefree girl was gone
as, was the close relationship
between the mother and daughter.
And just before Claire turned 18, she
announced that she was transgendered.
How did this happen?
Well, clear experience bullying from
extended family members at the private
school she attended during primary school.
So her parents moved
her to another school.
At first, the move was successful,
but at the end of eighth grade, Sarah
says Claire fell into a crowd of rough
girls, including one Sarah described
as very dark and very troubled.
The girl didn't identify as either sex.
And it was the first time I've heard
anything of like this, like this, the
new castle Australian mom said the girl
would send Claire text messages with
maca, Bree images, such as burning hair.
Sarah said that this was, was
the beginning of three years of
poor mental health for Claire.
One night, she went into a
catatonic state of terror and he
rushed her to the emergency room.
Well, after this, Claire progressively
went downhill over the course of
three years and they went to a public
and private practitioners all over
searching to find good help for her.
She was diagnosed with bipolar anxiety
and depression in recently autism.
Her mom says in year 11 grade 11, she
announced that she was transgendered
and was going to kill herself.
Her psychiatrist said to take her straight
to the hospital and she was admitted into
the mental health section where she was
immediately affirmed as trans the next.
I went into visitor.
And when I asked to see my daughter,
I was told I had a son, there was a
male name above her bed while still
trying to come to terms with what was
happening in the hospital, advised
Sarah, the mom, they would be referring
Claire immediately to the endocrinal
chronologist to start her on testosterone.
We said, no, we don't agree with it.
It is all too rushed.
We want to talk to our private
psychiatrist and talk to you about it.
She explains, but Sarah was then bullied.
The mom was bullied by the
staff treated horribly.
She was called trans phobic.
They continued to correct me, Sarah.
Every time I asked to see my
daughter, when they could see that
I was visibly upset, they told me
our daughter would kill herself.
If we didn't call her a boy,
however, Sarah was shown no
medical evidence to support it.
In a family meeting at the hospital,
they say, Chi trust ridiculed me saying,
declare quote, unquote, I suppose
your mother dressed you as a girl.
When you were little Sarah later
discovered that Claire had two
appointments in the proceeding four months
and they had started her on testosterone.
After the second appointment, she was
given notice psychiatric or psycho
psychological treatments, just immediate
referral referral for hormones.
Explain Sarah.
We were gobsmacked that someone could
immediately refer a clinically ill person
for hormones story one, this story, one
of thousands of stories where medical
professionals step in and without
seeing a psychologist without seeing.
Uh, doctors without really
seeing what was wrong.
Instantly the conclusion is up.
She's a boy and instantly we need
to start her on medical treatment.
Otherwise she is going to die.
I just know words.
Okay.
So am I making this stuff up?
No.
Now clearly as the article read,
she had issues for years bullying.
For years, she had bipolar, she
was put on the autistic spectrum.
She had other issues
that were underlying it.
And then she came in contact with a
dark person, a dark girl who already
identified as nonbinary and it snowballed.
Maybe maybe the right approach would
not have been to affirm this, but
do you break down some of the deeper
psychological issues that were
happening in this individual before
rushing them into hormone therapy?
After two visits to the doctor
here's story number school, two
titled school back off my kid.
It's my kid.
You're transitioning.
The mom starts off.
This is a mom from the west coast of
America saying I never thought I'd
be afraid for my son to go to school.
I always thought that school was
there to help our kids learn and to
teach them how to fit into societies.
I thought that teachers
were the salt of the earth.
Never once would have imagined that
our school rules would harm children.
She goes on to describe how or young
boy when he was in, in the early days
of primary school was distressed.
He had some problems paying attention
at first, they thought that, well,
he's too smart for, for these classes.
He is actually quite brilliant
and therefore we need to
give him harder material.
And as he got a little older,
he became less disruptive in
and began doing well in school.
But then she says, my son suddenly
out of nowhere, diag self diagnosed
himself as trans at 15, I realized
he thought he was trans because he
was quirky and socially awkward and
had been bullied in middle school.
He thought it explained
why he never fit in pause.
If a kid is not fitting in
and they're getting bullied.
Wouldn't that?
Wouldn't the right conclusion.
Yeah.
The right way to, to push someone
is to say, no, Just because people
don't like you and bullying you
and just because you don't fit in,
it doesn't mean that you're trans.
Maybe it means that people are jerk,
but no, no schools go out of their way.
She says to help a kid who declares
they are trans, there are so worried
that they will be bullied, but the
ignore the bullying that went on
before this declaration, uh, exactly.
Parents have a say in everything
about their child, unless they
declare that they are trans.
If your child declares that they are
trans, then you're deemed a bad parent.
If you don't go along with the
ideology, schools may threaten to
remove your child from you, unless
you transition them either socially
or medically, if a child complaints
to the school that their parents are
not supporting their trans identity.
Are not consulted, rather they're
considered to be causing harm and
therefore they are unfit to be parents.
Since when she writes,
does a parent know more?
What since, when does a parent not know
more about their child and what's best
for them, then a school counselor, it
would be laughable and absurd if it
were more, not so terrible, school's
changed children's names and pronouns
without parents permission, even though
they still need a parent's permission to
administer over the counter medicine and
life-saving medications like an epi pen.
So a school is able to step in and say,
yep, your child is your child is trans.
And so we're going to
change their pronouns.
We're going to change their names.
And if you parent don't go
along with this, your ma.
If you don't go along with what this
minor is saying, then you are unfit to
be a parent and we will take them away
from you because this kid was bullied.
They're not fitting in.
They're not gender conforming.
They're not like all the other boys.
They're not like all the other
girls, they like TaeKwonDo.
Maybe they're a little socially awkward.
So therefore, yeah, they
must be trans because what,
they're not gender conforming.
So where am I getting this absurd
ideology than, than I'm making up of?
Hey, if, if I, as a young kid who
was not gender conforming or my wife
who maybe is not gender conforming,
does that mean that we should?
All of a sudden we must be the other
gender and isn't that the very opposite
of what the feminist movement has
pushed for which so many good things
have come from that in that, Hey, you
don't have to fit into the stereotypical
alpha male, uh, wife in the kitchen.
Box of, of male and females.
But now what we're saying is, well, if
you don't fit in the stereotypical box,
then you must be mis-gendered somehow.
And we need to, you know, make you
trans because if you're not, uh, an
atypical, a stereotypical male, and if
you're not a stereotypical female, then
you must be trans because there's no
room to be a fully male and exhibits
exhibit a, a feminine traits or qualities
without being trans, without having
some sort of other gender identity.
This, this letter goes on.
It says without my permission
or knowledge, my school, my
son's school counselors changed
his name to a girl's name.
When I wrote the counselor,
she ignored my email.
I was looked upon as the enemy, even
though I have always been been my
son's biggest advocate, I was afraid
to push back because I feared the
school would call in child services.
Trans identified kids are not given
therapy for the trauma of being
bullied for being gay, geeky, quirky,
artistic, or socially awkward.
Instead they're led down a path
towards medical self-harm and told that
this is the only way to feel better.
That's why there are thousands of D
transitioned young adults out there
because these kids did not receive
the proper therapy schools or even
promoting to kindergarten kids that
you can be born in the wrong body.
I mean, if that's not going to cause
confusion in a, in a young child, four
or five years old, who they're already
confused about most things in life that,
you know, Can't get color straight.
Sometimes they're, they're
writing letters backwards.
Sometimes DS becomes
bees and bees become DS.
Well, of course, seeing that boys
or girls and girls or boys, yeah.
Baby are born in the wrong body.
How is that not going to cause confusion.
There are now teaching and confusing kids
about the trans gingerbread model telling
them that they could be any gender at all.
Children are now questioning the
most irrefutable biological mother
to add facts about themselves, that
they might not be born in the right
sex that they were clearly born in.
Well, it's not just teachers that are
experiencing this in, in their schools
with their children, but this, the same
thing is happening when it comes to.
Do to therapists and psychologists,
here's a clip that we, we played back in
episode 238, not so long ago from a Dr.
Jordan Peterson in his
interview with Abigail
psychotherapists are now bound, as
far as I've been able to determine by
examining the law to adopt precisely
this gender affirming position.
And I believe that that's
the case in Ontario.
So I don't do adolescent, um, therapy,
but if I had a young adult say 18 or
older, come to me who was expressing,
um, confusion about their gender
identity, let's say, or was gingerly
testing the waters to determine
if perhaps they were transgender.
I believe that I'm required by law to,
to adopt a position
that would affirm that.
That's
right.
Yes.
Sort of Damocles hangs over
professional's heads now.
And what it says is you must
agree with the patient's
self-diagnosis put another way.
It must, it suggests that you
should begin with the conclusion.
Your conclusion must be that this
person has gender dysphoria, and
then you can go along from there
and start prescribing treatments.
That's not how medicine or any other
era area of therapy is practiced.
You don't begin with the
conclusion you invest.
Uh, what else can you say?
Is it, is it flippant?
Is it absurd?
Is it making stories up?
No.
What is absurd, but is flippant is
to say that we must start with an
individual's self-diagnosis and, uh,
everything from there, what we need
just to start to prescribe medicines
and, and surgeries, et cetera.
And that to me, it's, it's not
something that I'm getting these
ideas out of nowhere, but this
is what is happening in the west.
Not just, not just in America,
but in Australia, in Europe,
in Canada, in America.
And it, it, it, it is coming down the
pipe, down the pike, across the globe.
His comment goes on and I like this.
I like this next, uh, bit of his comment.
He said, I think you are quite right
when you speak to gender norms, being
broken down, people feeling they can
exist in their own gender and like
activities that were once gendered.
Now, this is great.
This is true.
I too am glad that gender, gender norms
are being broken down, uh, between people.
I like that.
Boys can.
Learn to be tailors or which is not new.
I mean, that's been happening
for thousands of years.
Uh, and I like that girls feel like
they can be in competitive sports,
which again, that's not necessarily new.
And on top of that, I'm not sure
with the trans agenda and the trans
movement actually adds to this.
In fact, I see it, something taken away
because I, in the west, I cannot think
of a single activity that was quote
unquote gendered 10 or 20 years ago.
And maybe there are, and I'm just unaware.
I can't think of something that 20 years
ago, a female was not allowed to enter
into or compete in or be a part of.
And so how does the transgendered
movement actually help women in that.
In that pursuit or how does it
even help society in that pursuit?
Do you have equal
opportunity for all people?
Instead?
It seems like the opposite is happening.
We're now biological men.
Like Laura Hubbard are allowed to,
who's a male who transitioned to a
female and he's in his, he's like
$47 able to compete in the Olympics.
And it is very likely to place in as a
quote-unquote female in the Olympics.
When the, the average age to peak
for a weightlifting is around 24,
26 for both males and females.
So here's a, a person that's way
outside of their, the peak of
their, their physical performance.
Who's most likely going to beat almost
all the women at the Olympics, because
he's been allowed to compete as a female.
How has that, how has that breaking
down gendered gendered activities?
We know that the reason we created
differences in, in sports between the
genders to have male and female tennis
to have male and female weightlifting,
because if it was non-gendered boosts,
all you need gendered in sports.
We would see that all nearly all women
would be kicked out of nearly all
sports because men's physiological
frame, physical frame is so much
stronger due to our biological makeup.
So having different gender
groups of male and female.
It actually brings more inclusion.
So obviously I don't think
he's referring to that.
I think he's probably referring to
the things that were more 20, 30,
40 years ago in the west now, and
other places in the world, there
are still things that are gendered.
There are still areas of in the world
where certain males, females aren't
allowed to perform certain jobs.
I don't have any examples off hand.
And those, I think probably need
to be looked at one by one because
it's not a uniform thing, but I'm
all for having girls being totally
amped on becoming engineers.
When you look at the big five, the
reason that we see more male engineers
and more female engineers, because
across the big five, there's a whole
standard of deviation between me.
And females where men are more
interested in things in women
are more interested in people.
Therefore more men are
going to become engineers.
Not because they're intellectually
superior, not because they're smarter,
not because they're better at math.
In fact, on the intellect between
males and females, it's pretty much
the same, but the reason that more
males become engineers is because
males are more interested in things
and you have to be very interested
in things to become an engineer.
And likewise, that's why we see
more females go into nursing because
they are more interested in people.
And that is a good thing.
People to choose what they want rather
than to try to socially construct a
level of equality of outcome among
the sexes and among the genders.
Now, the other thing with this whole D
gendering thing, helping, uh, females
or more genders of minority, it
seems to be pretty backwards as well.
I don't see the trans movement
helping that anyway, any
in any way, shape or form.
In fact, justice last week, J K
Rowling experienced, uh, some more
hate on the, in the Twitter sphere.
Uh, she posted, uh, these, these
tweets here they are first tweet.
She S she receives a tweet saying, I wish
you a very nice pipe bomb in the mailbox.
Can you see, this was from queer Edgar.
His name's Sam.
I mean, who would, who in their
right mind would tweet that?
And against his name, you see a whole
bunch of little icons, and one of those
icons is across ironically and another
icon is the trans flag and a bomb.
Well, that's nice.
And I mean, tweeting the
set of person, a person.
I wish you a very nice
pipe bomb in your mailbox.
OSHA responds and said to be fair, when
you can't get a woman sacked, arrested,
or dropped by her publisher and canceling
her only made her book sales go up.
There's only one place to go.
And that is violence.
That is violence against people
who are defending women's rights.
Well, what did she say to
cause such an uproar this time?
Well, in another tweet, uh, someone asked
the question replying to JK Raleigh.
This person asked, is this still
because if her comments about the safety
of women in toilets and change your
rooms, if men can use them by simply
saying that they identify as women
and she says, yes, but now hundreds
of trans activists have threatened to
beat rape and assassinate and bomb me.
I've realized that this movement
poses no risk to women whatsoever.
Yes.
Now that the trans activists have
threatened her and threatened her
life, it is now clear that, uh,
this movement is one of peace,
love, and absolute tolerance.
So high fives all around, but where, where
does this all, where does this all lead?
This all leads us this
whole trans movement.
If, if you carry out the, the logical
conclusion and now of course, I I'm
sure, uh, Jordan, if you're listening
to this, you're probably going to
disagree with, with me again, is creating
fantasies and creating things to oppose.
But when you carry out the trans the
underlying thought process behind the
trans agenda to its logical conclusion,
well, the logical conclusion to the
whole thing is when people are born,
they should be made totally asexual.
We should, we should neuter people.
At birth and then give them hormones
at birth to make sure everyone is
just on an equal playing field.
And we'll reproduce our
babies in test tubes.
Instead.
Now, obviously that's a little bit of
a hyperbole, but that is the logical
conclusion of where this all goes.
I read this fascinating site
satirical story called transhumanism
and our Frankenstein future, fairly
lengthy boundary to passage from it.
It's a fictional exchange
between, uh, two doctors.
One of these doctors is Dr.
Frankenstein and, uh,
another doctor who is.
Uh, transgendered and,
uh, transhumanism therapy.
Well, Frankenstein, Dr.
F says, we are certainly
finding that within with the
increase of racial diversity.
Remember, now you can, you can
change your ethnic diversity.
You can become a trans Asian, if you want.
And 53 gender choices, the surgeries and
the therapy choices are quite complicated.
What do you suggest?
Uh, Dr.
A says, move procreation to the labs.
The old fashioned methods of contraception
gestation and childbirth is messy,
painful, and awkward for everyone.
Modify the genetic sequence to produce
one homogenized human grace with features
from all the major, major racial groups.
Is this not what we want,
equality of outcome.
We just need to make everybody
look exactly the same.
This is the logical extension of all this.
Could they go on then instead of very
gender and racial tensions, we'll
have one straightforward procedure.
Give everyone the same balanced hormones
to create eight neutered individual.
The surgery would be simple, just
remove the male genitalia and the
female reproductive organs, which are
troublesome anyways and streamlined.
The whole process.
Make the area smooth with just a
functional orifice Fort waste elimination.
The process is called
binary neutralization.
This is a brilliant idea said Dr.
Frankenstein.
It's so much simpler.
In fact, with a proper legislation
and the support of the sexual
non-binary lobby, we could make this
mandatory for all children at birth.
This is, uh, this is
the logical conclusion.
Really?
Do I think it will actually get there?
No, I don't, but this is the
logic that is bound up in it.
They, they go on a little further later.
This therapy is truly
liberating for your patients.
What a marvelous work that you're doing.
Tell me, have you had any
objections to your work?
Oh, yes, of course.
Surgeon religious fundamentalists
protests, but we have a very
proactive educational department.
I see.
And what do you say to those objections?
We engage the objectors in dialogue.
We ask them if any of their children's
have ever had orthodontics, have they
had dental implants, have their parents
or grandparents had a pacemaker or
hip or knee replacement or hearing.
We asked them if they object to organ
transplants, which have saved the lives
of so many, do they object to corrective
surgery after an accident, plastic
surgery to help with burn victims?
No.
All of these medical technologies
have improved the lives of millions.
So why do they object to
further medical advances?
This is the line of argument.
This is the thought process behind.
Well, why not just help people by
giving them surgery, by helping them
transition to be trans transracial,
trans, Asian, trans you name it.
Why not help people transition
to become the, the cat that they
were really born to be, or the dog
that they're really born to be.
And now you might say, well,
that's just absurd and.
Probably not a lot of people, as far
as a percentage of the population
is going to go down that route.
But that is the route that,
that people are going.
That is where this ideology is going.
Seeing that you can be
anything that you want to be.
You can identify in any way
that you want to identify and
you must be accepted as that.
He goes on my friends comment.
It goes on to say it is pretty startling.
How flippant you seem
to approach the subject.
Yes.
In that one, one minute clip, it
was using a lot of irony trying to
create some humor in the show, but
am I approaching this flippantly?
No, I think this is one of the most
serious, uh, uh, agendas and pushes
that is happening in progressive social
Constructionism that we're seeing across
the globe because it's attacking normal.
Family values.
It's attacking, uh, identity.
It's causing confusion among so many kids.
And th the fruit of it, if you look at
the underlying comorbidities that, that
these individuals face, and th the rate of
suicide that these individuals face, even
after transitioning, that is not something
that I want to see anyone go through.
And a reality that I think anyone
wants to live in with the risk
that anyone wants to live in that,
that risk of high suicide rate.
So my question is,
let me divide this first.
I would say if there is an
individual in front of me, of
course, I'm going to take them in.
I'm going to love them.
I'm going to treat them with
respect, love, and care.
There's difference between accepting
a person in caring for that person.
ER.
Creating legislation and
pushing people towards that.
And, and rather than saying for, for those
who are already leaning towards that way,
instead of saying, well, well, I think
there might be some other underlying
issues and maybe you, you thinking
that you're transgendered is a fruit of
something much deeper that's happening,
let's solve this deep root issue first
and then see what happens in a couple
of years and let this thing play out.
Instead of doing that,
we're doing the opposite.
We're saying, oh, that fruit, that
transgendered ism, that you're
feeling, that must be the source.
That must be the root problem.
And therefore, if we can fix that,
then we'll deal with your, that
will fix your depression, that
will fix your bipolarness, that
will fix the anxiety that you feel.
But of course, no,
apparently that's flippant.
And says, it just seems, it just seems
like you haven't given the situation,
the thought and consideration it needs
or examine the medical, psychological
considerations that are far from
jumping to the conclusion or push
children's or adults in a direction
that they don't already exist in.
This is what I was just commenting
that his argument, which I understand
is he saying, oh, well, people
are already trending in this way.
Medical professionals and psychologists
are stepping in, who are helping people
who are already trending in this way.
My argument is that, well, if I'm
trending towards depression and
suicide, wouldn't a medical profession.
Come in and not say,
great, we'll help you.
We'll help you in that will help.
You know, finish the job off.
No, they're say they're, they're supposed
to step in and say, Hey, we're going
to help bring you back from this edge.
And we'll deal with the underlying issues.
Not just accept your
self-diagnosis as you are.
And again, this assumption, and I've
gotten this a numerous, numerous
times where someone will take a
one minute clip or a 15 second
clip from Instagram and say, well,
clearly you haven't read enough.
Clearly you haven't done enough research.
Clearly you need, you
need to educate yourself.
You need to educate yourself.
That seems to be the, the common
response when someone has an opinion
that differs them then because it's
so offensive and it is so intense.
To think that someone could have done
hours and hours of work and research
could have read books, could have
looked at the arguments and come
to a different conclusion than you
to come to a different conclusion.
Then your point of view, and from your
world, because if you disagree with
me, that also means that I probably
disagree with you to the same degree.
So, and I saw this when it came
to the Israel, Palestine conflict.
I I've seen it when it, when it comes
to when I've raised questions on what
people mean by cultural appropriation.
The answer normally is as well.
I'm not going to do the
emotional labor for you.
You need to go and educate yourself.
Well, you clearly, your, your 50
hours of research just wasn't enough.
What?
Just because I didn't
come to your conclusions.
Well, here's the thing.
Here's another clip from,
from the interview with Dr.
Peterson and Abigail.
On this point,
right?
I mean, I interviewed affirmative
therapists and I would say to
them, and they would say, well,
some kids are gender fluid.
And I would say to them, well
then how can you recommend revert?
You know, top surgery on a young
woman who's who may be turn out to be
gender fluid, meaning she decides at
some point she isn't, she was wrong.
She isn't a boy, she's a girl.
And, and, um, you know, this
response was essentially will
only, she can know her truth.
I mean, we are, we are, we are,
this is not medicine any longer.
It's closer to
witchcraft.
And I agree it's not medicine any longer.
It is closer to witchcraft.
It is closer to will only,
you can know your truth.
Who, who is to tell you
what gender you are anyways.
And isn't jumping, isn't cutting
and putting kids underneath the
knife and giving puberty blockers
to kids, which are irreversible.
Is that not jumping to conclusions
that are IR irreversible conclusions?
Isn't it isn't that flippant,
the line of argument also seems
to follow it when we're talking
about, you know, kids or adults are
already in that, that direction.
They're there already.
And if adult wants to do what an adult
wants to do, that's, that's different.
You know, they are an adult.
I think that, you know, my, my
liberalism or my, uh, libertarianism
in me would say, Hey, if an adult
wants to do that, that's one thing I'm
mostly making this argument about that.
The indoctrination of children from
kindergarten, essentially sowing the
seeds of confusion, saying that you can
be any gender that you think you might be.
Maybe you were born in the wrong.
But this whole thing of like, well,
people are already going to do it.
So, you know, we're
just going to help them.
They're already thinking this way.
We're just going to help them along.
It's the same logic that says, well, kids
are already going to have sex anyways.
So let's teach them how to do
it in school at a young age.
And we'll give them condoms just so
that they can be safe while doing it.
It's the same logic that says,
well, kids are high school.
Kids are going to drink and party anyways.
So we'll be the ones that us, the
parents are going to buy the booze and
host the party at our house because
while these kids are already going down
this way, so let's create a safe place.
for them to do it, but isn't
not therapists in psychiatric
and, and psychology.
Isn't not supposed to help return
people to their healthy, original state,
not to encourage them down a state
that, that many people, not just mine.
And data, not just myself would say that
these are fruits of underlying issues.
And by creating a kid and seeing to a
kid that, Hey, let's transition you,
that all of a sudden that's going to
solve the problems because it's not,
they're only going to get better, bigger.
And finally, you know, as, as a religious
fundamentalist that I am, and that
many of my friends are even here in the
lead here in the, in the middle east
Mo most of my friends were religious
fundamentalists on some level of the
scale, especially compared to, uh, the
Progressive's that are pushing this,
uh, this agenda, these trans activists.
And I would say, you know what?
There is an, an issue here
of a spiritual reality.
There is, is a spiritual
reality that is going on.
And yes, there are, there
are all these physical, uh,
psychological, chemical imbalances.
There are such things as intersect.
People who are born with multiple,
multiple genitalia or born with,
with, uh, multiple chromosomes.
There are, there are those clear
medical cases, and that's not
what we're talking about either.
But what we are talking about is
the agenda that is being pushed and
there is a spiritual level for that.
And so I think we need to go beyond
and recognize that we have to go
beyond just a natural solution,
but there is a spiritual solution.
That part of the reason that we're
not seeing any level of breakthrough
is because we're totally ignoring it.
We're seeing what we can't defeat this.
We can't fix this.
We, we, we don't know
the solution to that.
In the natural and therefore
we're just gonna, we're just gonna
embrace it and call it normative.
And yeah, that makes sense.
The post-truth society where we
have exchanged truth for lies and
reason for postmodern irrationality.
The absurd finally makes sense.
Well, in British Columbia,
they, uh, Canada, there are
experiencing an drug crisis.
Now April 14th, 2021 marked a
sobering five-year anniversary for BC.
When five years ago, an health
emergency was declared over overdoses.
Since 2016, 7,000 people have died.
Overdose is the fourth cause
of death in British Columbia.
With the average age being 43.
Now the solution has been not only to
decriminalize drugs like heroin, but
to give those drugs away for free and
to set up prescription essentially
prescription heroin, prescription cocaine,
and prescription meth to move people
away from what is being called, uh, uh,
toxic supplies or unsafe drug supplies
and moving them to what is being called
safe supplies or a government regulated
pharmaceutically created methane, methane,
uh, meth, cocaine, and heroin drugs.
Now I'm, uh, I'm a little
mixed on this issue.
And after we listened through some
of these clips, you'll hear it.
But the province of British Columbia
is investing 22.6 million over the
next three years to expand their
new policies, to help combat drugs.
And one of the first things
that they're doing, as I said
is to decriminalize drugs.
And the second thing is
create a safe drug supply.
Here is the minister of mental health
and addictions, Sheila Malcolmson.
I'm committed to continuing our
unrelenting response to the overdose
crisis, finding new ways to separate
people from the toxic drug supply,
adding more treatment and recovery
options and moving forward on
decriminalization to reduce the stigma
that prevents people from reaching
out for help.
Now, there are a couple of
things, actually, I do like
shocking in this statement.
Okay.
They're creating more beds for
recovery for youth and adults.
They're creating places and treatments
for if, if people are overdosing or
people want to get off drugs, that
they have systems to help people who
are coming forward and saying a I have
an addiction problem and I need help.
I actually think that's,
I think that's great.
I mean, if, if someone is admitting
they have a problem with addiction
and they want to get free.
Yeah.
We should help them.
So the, the logical step is saying,
well, we're going to decriminalize, uh,
the holding of drugs, drugs, so that
we can focus our efforts elsewhere.
And so that we can re
re, remove the stigma.
So people can actually come forward
and, and not be worried that they're
going to get arrested or thrown in jail.
If they say that they have a
problem with drugs, here's the
next clip of Sheila explaining.
Our intention
is that, uh, by decriminalizing, uh,
small amounts of illicit drugs, personal
possession of illicit drugs that we have,
we get two benefits in British Columbia.
One is that the police are able then to
concentrate on more serious crime and
particularly go after drug traffickers.
Um, and at the same time, uh,
removing an impediment, um, the
stigma that prevents people from
admitting that they have an addiction
problem and, and reaching out for
help.
Yeah, I do think is great.
There have been similar models that
have been put forward when it comes to
battling and combating sex trafficking
in America, which, which would be
decriminalizing prostitution, but
criminalizing the buying of a prostitute.
So oftentimes in countries
they criminalized the female.
In the exchange, but they don't, they
don't press charges criminalize the John
or the male in the exchange or, and really
in America, one in five, one in five
cases of human trafficking are young boys.
So it's not just criminalizing, uh, the
female, but it's the, the prostitute,
um, whether male or female, but th
but the, the thought processes, if we
criminalize the buying of a prostitute,
then there's going to be a greater stigma
from people who are purchasing, um, sex.
And that is going to
quickly stop the problem.
And we can then help people who are caught
up in human trafficking, lost the globe.
So the same thought process has
been applied here, which I don't
necessarily hate, which is okay.
If someone is struggling, struggling
with drug addicts, Let's get them help
rather than throwing them in jail.
And let's pursue drug traffickers.
Let's pursue, uh, drug Lords and put
our energy there rather than just
locking up the ones and the twos.
But notice she used a couple of times
this term safe supply and getting, getting
people off of toxic supplies of drugs and
instead having a safe supply of drugs.
Uh, one website was saying, uh, and
the links in the show notes, the
term safe supplies, relatively new,
but the concept is not people who
use drugs have been calling for safe
and regulated drugs for decades.
The Canadian association of people who
use drugs, C a P U D defines safe to
supply as illegal and regulated supply of
drugs with mind, body altering properties
that traditionally have been accessible
only through the illicit drug market.
This covers many drugs that are currently
illegal, including including heroin,
fentanyl, cocaine, methamphetamines, and M
D M a the goal of safe supply is to enable
people who use drugs to access regulated
substances from a legal source rather
than toxic versions from illicit market,
ultimately saving lives on the face.
That sounds great.
But in practice, I have,
I have a few reservations.
I have a few doubts.
One we already know across the
globe, uh, medications like a Valium,
like Percocet, like, uh, coding.
These are all legal opiates, which you can
get from drug suppliers and people abuse
them and overdose on them all the time.
It is a serious problem.
So how, how does the government
becoming the drug dealer?
Instead?
It seems to be a great move by big
pharma to keep people to one, to take
out drug traffickers and to let them
become the ones that regulate it.
But who's to say that people aren't going
to abuse those prescriptions anyways.
And it seems as if it only perpetuates
a problem of, of drug addiction, which
is extremely harmful, extremely harmful.
To people's lives.
Why would we want to perpetuate
this instead of looking to solve
the root issues of the problem.
And I understand they are doing that.
Canada is working in pressing to do
that, but I feel like putting a stamp on
it and, and legalizing it in a way that
you can go to a drug supply place and
get your free fix of heroin for the day.
Um, it seems as though there would be
just so much more room for, for addiction.
There could be so much more room for
abuse and it can essentially say to an
entire generation that, Hey, this is okay.
Drugs are okay.
We've moved from dare, don't do drugs
and the war on drugs in the, in the late
eighties and the nineties to accepting and
realize the more actually the drug Lords.
We actually lost, we
couldn't solve this problem.
So instead of fighting it, we are
going to accept it and we are going
to be the ones that regulate it, which
seems to be a similar argument to
what's happening in the trans movement.
Instead of saying, we can actually
provide solutions for people who are
experiencing bipolar and depression and,
and, and bullying, instead of providing
a solution, we're going to say, we're
going to affirm the problem and say, ah,
yes, you must've been born in the wrong
body and we ought to just transition you.
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Welcome back Luma part of the show
where we take ancient wisdom and
we weave it in with our everyday
lives so that we can own our future.
And we.
Our destiny today's quote is
from the book when helping hurts.
So not that ancient of a quote, but
it's written by Stephen Colbert.
And he says, if we treat only the
symptoms, or if we miss diagnose
the underlying problem, we will
not improve their situation.
And we might actually
make their lives worse.
If we only treat the symptoms, or if
we misdiagnose the underlying problem,
we will not improve people's lives.
We will not improve the situation
of those we seek to help.
We might actually only make it worse.
And this is exactly what we have
been saying in this episode.
This is exactly what we have been saying
when it comes to this, this whole trans
activists movement, where you're not able.
To rightly identify the, the root issues
and the problems because it is illegal
conversion therapy is illegal in many
states, in many countries it's illegal.
And if you're not able to give people
a solution, if you're not able to
say, okay, let's just put a pause on
your identification as a trans person.
And let's first deal with
these underlying issues.
And then after we deal with these
underlying issues, after we, we, we
get some breakthrough on depression
and bullying and self hatred and,
and suicidal thoughts and bipolar.
Once we get that breakthrough, then,
then let's revisit and see if, if
being transgendered was a fruit
of something or is that the actual
root or are you actually okay.
Born in the wrong body and
let's stop pushing this on
an entire generation because.
I fear that we are misdiagnosing and
we will end up doing far more harm
than good in, in the months, years,
and decades to come along this issue.
And that's not a flippant or
uneducated take, but there are
many people who agree with me.
And if you agree, there's many
people who agree with you.
You are not alone in this.
You're not a minority in this.
So do not fear, do not think fat you are.
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the middle east or across Asia or
Europe, these are, this is a global.
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