Kan Talk Kulture with Kylie Anne Neal

What happens when you build a business on real connection, community service, and a passion for people? 

In this episode of Kan Talk Kulture, Kylie Anne Neal sits down with Josh Yates, co-founder and Director of Landy Group, to unpack the values behind one of the Gold Coast’s most people-first businesses. From civil works to advisory and beyond, Josh shares how Landy has grown without ever compromising on culture, trust, or heart. 

Whether you're a business leader scaling a team, or someone who believes culture is built through relationships, not buzzwords, this one’s for you.

💡 In this episode: 
  • How Josh’s community mindset fuels Landy’s culture 
  • Why growing a business is more sustainable when it’s built on trust 
  • The “people-first” principle behind every Landy hire 
  • What leading with heart really looks like (even on tough days) 
  • How sport, service, and small gestures shape Landy’s legacy 
If your culture’s not felt, it’s probably not working, so listen in. 

👉 Learn more at kankulture.com

Learn more about Landy at landy-group.com.au, or connect with Josh to find out how they’re doing things differently. 

What is Kan Talk Kulture with Kylie Anne Neal?

What if your company culture wasn’t just an HR buzzword but the secret weapon to scaling your business?

Welcome to Kan Talk Kulture, the podcast that dives deep into how remarkable company cultures are intentionally built and how they can transform your team, your business, and your bottom line.

Hosted by Kylie Anne Neal, founder of Kan Kulture and a passionate expert in people, culture, and leadership, this show is designed for business owners, CEOs, HR professionals, and anyone who believes that empowered people are the key to long-term success.

Each episode features real conversations with inspiring CEOs, business leaders, and culture champions who share how they’ve shaped their team environments alongside case studies, practical tips, and bold questions that challenge the status quo.

Whether you're looking to boost employee engagement, create a high-performance team, or align your people with your vision, this podcast will help you connect the dots between culture and growth.

At Kan Kulture, we believe in Kindness, Understanding, Learning, Trust, Uniqueness, Respect, and Evolving, and this podcast brings those values to life.

If you're ready to turn your team into your biggest brand ambassadors and create a workplace people love, this is the podcast for you.

Find out more at www.kankulture.com

Hi, I'm Kylie Anne Neal, founder of Kan Kulture and welcome to Kan Kulture. In this podcast, I sit down with some of Australia's most progressive founders and CEOs to explore the heart. Of their company cultures, what drives them, what they value, and what it's really like to work for the companies they lead.

You'll also find occasional episodes packed with practical HR insights to help you build safer, stronger, and more trusted workplaces. So whether you're a new team member, getting to know your workplace, curious about creating remarkable company cultures. Or just wanting to know more about implementing HR best practice.

You are in the right place. Let's dive in.

Welcome back to Kan Kulture. I'm your host, Kylie Anne Neal, and today joining me is Josh Yates. Josh, welcome to the podcast.

Thank you for having me, Kylie. Pleasure to be here.

Pleasure to have you. So normally I would do an introduction, but today I want you to introduce yourself because you are a man of many hats and we are here to talk about company culture.

So we will get to that. But let's hear your story.

It's a bit of a long-winded one, so I won't bore everyone. But yeah, proud Southern Gold Coast resident, as love life down here. I got a small family with the wife and the two kids, a 4-year-old and 2-year-old, so they keep me quite busy.

And then about four years ago decided to take the plunge with my business partner, David Lightfoot, who's based up in Brizi. And we started Landy Advisory. So not many people know this, but Landy actually starts stands for Lightfoot and Yates. We thought that was a bit, accountant, a bit lawyer which is a bit boring.

Apologies for any council lawyers listening, but someone quite creatively came up with and just shortened that one of our graphic design friends in the industry and called ourselves Landy. So been on that journey. But career wise before Landy I've worked all through, I guess the finance sector, got into the supply chain.

I'm selling mining camps construction site, and then. Then went overseas had a stint at playing rugby and rugby league in New York City, which is a bit random 'cause that's, they're not really known for that over there. But got the opportunity through playing league here in Queensland.

So that was an amazing sort of gap year at the ripe old age of 29. Had my 30th birthday over there in Manhattan, which was awesome. And then it came back to, to Queensland, wanted to come back home to the Gold Coast, but initially Brisbane where the obviously work was, and I actually wanted to go back to New York.

I loved it that much. So I was looking for companies that had. I guess locations or offices there. And I found a a geotech consulting firm and yeah, for people out there that's basically affectionately known as the dirt doctors, they can, they're amazing, very smart people, but they can tell you how.

Soil and ground interaction and all the really technical engineering stuff. So for me, I had no idea what they did. They probably had no idea what I brought to the table. But yeah, I had a great three or four years and that really catapulted my life into construction engineering. And that, that was a wonderful experience.

And then from there, went to to a tier one contractor in Brissy. Which was really even such a great experience because it gave me I guess opportunities to across all walks of life in terms of sectors. So building, mining, oil and gas, and then your big transport infrastructure. So really diverse opportunity there.

Then what needed to be a bit closer to home, back to the coast where the heart was. I was traveling up to Brissy, as we all know, the M1. It's only got gotten worse spending too much time on there. So found myself with a Gold Coast civil contractor. And then did a few years there, met Dave Love at First Sight.

Not really, but yeah worked with him a lot of respect. He's in the delivery side. I was very front end pre contracts work winning. So we were affectionately known as the promises team, and then we'd hand it to Dave. He was the sorry's team in delivery. But yeah, so that sort of blossomed there.

We thought weird. Roll the dice and have a crack. And we're nearly four years old, which is exciting and it's been a an incredible journey up and down. You'll know you've been a very important part of this calls and we couldn't do it without you. And love having you part of the team as well and the Kan Kulture, family.

And here we are today. We're, I think we're up to about 15 of us now and growing organically We're new lettuce. Yeah. So it's really exciting. But yeah, it's a bit of a SAP show to me and yeah, just very blessed. Have an amazing family. Extended family. You got awesome friends all walks of life from.

Sport's been a big part of my life. So I've got best mates from footy forever, like over 20 years. I got mates from 30 years ago, when we were kids. And then now all people actually that I spend a lot of time with is people in the industry. Who have been colleagues and now are really close friends and yeah, so I'm very blessed, very lucky, and I'm sorry they all have to put up with me talking too much, which you have to do today.

Yeah.

And we're we'll come back to Landy, but you'll also do a lot of things within the community and within the local chamber. So tell us about just a snapshot of the different hats that you wear outside of Landy at the moment.

Carl, I'm glad you asked me that because I was on a podcast recently with the amazing Lauren.

And I completely just buy and I've been on one before and I've never speak about this. It's not a sense of being embarrassed or maybe it's a bit humble or humility. I just figure in my small. In my life. I think it comes down to what we can do and whatever, how long ever we have on this earth is from a legacy point of view.

And my biggest thing, even as a young age, mum would say that I could be friends with the kids in the band or the footy team or whatever. Like I just, relationships always important. So that relationship piece into what's the, what can I give back as a legacy so when I leave maybe it's things that are.

Better than when we started. So long-winded intro to that is yeah I volunteer all across the board. So I've been with the Southern Gold Coast Chamber of Commerce for five years. Vice president there in a volunteer role on the board. I've really enjoyed that. That's how you and I met, which is, unbelievable.

But then also just opened my eyes to other industries, not just construction engineering. I've learned so much. I meet incredible people there incredible networks and then even almost a connection piece there with others that may not necessarily work with Landy. I think true to my heart and my footy background and playing I guess at that sort of qup level.

I've wanted to give back to the sport and my, I guess local qup team is the Tweed seagulls and I've been there coming up to five years as well as one of their board of directors. I absolutely love that. I would pay them to do that, but don't hopefully be all, you're not listening. It's a volunteer role, but it's, amazing people there.

We have a diverse board. And then just the other things and that, you know about me, I'm doing a mentoring program for at risk kids now, inspiring Brighter Futures, which I get more out of that than the mentees and the kids. It's, they've got some real challenges and in a small way from my mistakes or my lessons, learned to give back for that hour a week.

And we have an incredible facilitator. But the program itself I actually want to take back and utilize into my life. Yeah that's really, that's quite amazing. And then yeah I guess I'll pop up in all different other things. I'm. I didn't realize the other day, but I must've done it months ago, but I signed up for I'm now on the industry advisory board for the city of Gold Coast for the new planning scheme.

Of course I am. But I'm really excited about that, amazing people in the room. The old statement where, you know, if you think you're this if you're the smartest in the room, you need to find new room. I never have to worry about that, so I'm lucky. There's a few other things as well.

But yeah I love giving back. I do a lot with the Mark Hug Foundation. That's probably another one. Dear to my heart of losing dad to brain cancer. But I actually got involved with the Mark Hughes Foundation beforehand because it was a young footballer that is Fight Mark Hughes.

And he's doing an incredible job now and what he's done and the money he's raised him and curly in the family. But just seeing someone struck down in their prime with such a, horrendous disease. So we still haven't found a cure, but say every year I did 150 k. Trek with 65 other people last year to raise money.

We raised, 300,000 I think this year. They, when they do it every year, they'd raise another like 500. But yeah, did that from Sydney to Newcastle with limited training. So that was a bad mistake. Couldn't walk about eight weeks after it. So anywhere, like I, I'd like to think if heaven forbid if I was to.

It would all be over tomorrow. My life is at least people go it is affectionately called Yatesy. He'd give you his shirt off his back and do anything for you, and you can call him in the middle of the night or whatever time, and I'll always be there for you. And that's not necessarily always your closest friends.

I just think people, community in general for no other reason, no expectations and. Probably really, it's built into me. 'cause real inspiration is looking at mum. Mum's volunteered, her whole life. And she's at John Flynn Hospital now she's at GRU and Wildlife Hospital.

So she's doing the animals and the people and she's, 15 years past and always, and even her mum, lifeline and all these sort of things. So I think, yeah, that helps you also, that gratitude to be quite grateful. And we are very blessed, and I believe as long as you've got your health, you're fine.

Yeah. There's nothing else. And we all get stressed and you, we have chats. You and I love you. You're the absolute pillar of strength to me as a young business owner. And I'm a mode of human. But I think yeah, having that support network really gives you that gratitude, but then also then giving back.

And, we, I've done other things too, but I don't wanna put your listeners to sleep, yeah. But I'm proud of that and thank you for asking me 'cause I never talk about it. You're very welcome. And I do keep it to myself and but because it is a, yeah, it's not about me. It's not about me,

but what I do love about you, Josh, whether it's you as a business owner for Landy, all the stuff that you do in the community, you are a massive connector, but it's a lot deeper than that for you.

You obviously have such strong values, like within the core of your soul, and. I think that really shows with the work that you do at Landy as well. So we will get to the company culture in a moment, but I wanna hone in on you and Dave, you and Dave, have such a.

Beautiful connection, if I could call it beautiful on a podcast.

Yeah. Yeah.

You guys

absolutely a joyful, you might wanna hear it. We had just had a meeting with a client and yeah, you, you might not have said that after the meeting 'cause I basically just paid out on him the whole time. Which the client loved.

Yeah. Yeah. But no. Yeah. Yeah.

So what is it between you and Dave, when you started talking about standing, starting Landy, what was it about that connection between you and Dave? Because it takes a lot of courage to go out on your own, and it takes a lot of courage to do it with somebody else, like to partner with someone else.

So what's that special little thing?

Firstly and this you've done this yourself, and you and I talk about it a bit, but I couldn't be more grateful and so thankful that, especially through the challenging and adversity and the hard times, like everyone, when it's rainbows and unicorns and you've won this and you're high fiving and clapping and cheering and join, too many margaritas it's all smooth sounding, right?

But. When you're in the trenches, adversity and Landy hasn't been all smooth sailing and I think, I would can't imagine not doing it with someone else, like having that partner. But then also I couldn't imagine doing it without Dave, which is, he's. And it, and so perfect too. Like we do live in different city, like in terms of Goldie, Brisbane, different, friends and all that, groups and all that.

So we're not necessarily each other's face and pockets, but when we are together, like we have a good time as well. Like it is I almost put it down to it family, like brother, like I don't speak to and I think both our US can attest this. I don't speak to anyone more than I speak to him.

Yeah, I think they're worried we're married, but yeah. And look, even with us, we don't always agree either. And I think there's that mutual respect and I think we've only had one sort of lover's proper tiff a few years back. But other than that, it's that mutual respect and trust and try and get that in all relationship anyway, as I said to everyone, we, him and I could actually do this on our own, but stronger together. Yeah. Is, it's actually really true. And rings true as well. And and Dave's the dreamer and the, take the risk and all that. And I take Caco risk, but I'll want to know if this goes sideways, how much.

How sideways can it go? And then what's plan A, B, C, D, and E. And I'm not saying he's not, he doesn't think that, but we are yin and yang. Yeah. It's just a shame. He likes rugby union and I love rugby league. So Union.

You got it. You guys definitely have a really special relationship and. If we take that to the team.

So if we look at Landy and yes you, and we haven't even gone into what advisory and what developments do, keeping it from a culture perspective in building the team. You do have your paths that you play, but you guys both come together so well to have those little, you're not afraid to have the conversations.

You're not afraid to like wholeheartedly support each other and back each other and give each other the confidence to make the right decisions within Landy, which is amazing. Give us a quick rundown of Advisory and of Landy Group.

Yeah. So I won't, it is a bit of a long story, but I'll, yeah.

I'll make I'll do as quick as possible. So this is not a five hour podcast. This is now Sunday. No. So no real, so there's. There's the three business streams and even a fourth now, but quickly Landing Advisor is how it all started. In a nutshell, it's professional services capability consultancy, that can be project management business development advisory. We have an incredible submissions tender team that are, I wish I could clone them. They're amazing. And we have technical support as well. So what I mean by that is we actually carry construction delivery people that can go out to site and actually deliver it and for another client put their badge on.

And some of them have already done that. Or they can sit in tenders and write methodologies and. Program and get right into the construction side. So that's quickly that there's heaps more to it. But then there's landing developments, which is pretty straightforward. It's a civil contracting business, so they literally go out and push the dirt and do the civil works.

So that's like any civil contracting business. And then, but we're special. And then the last one landing commercial. So that has a different element to it 'cause we've actually bought. A third party in as a director owner with Dave and I, and that's purely commercial secondment roles, like similar to advisory, but legal, contract Administrator, Australia, administrators.

And then anything to do I guess within the delivery phase around procurement and a few other key requirements. And then the fourth one is Dave and I. 'cause we clearly have way too much time, which is not true. We're having a, an attempt at our first development ourselves where we buy the land, do the civil works and sell it.

So we're learning a lot going through all that process. That's separate to the business, but obviously her, him and I are involved in that. So that has no impact on Landy. Yeah. However, there's opportunities there that if it all goes ahead, Landy developments, the civil contract will. Will come in and do the civil works.

So that's about it. And the four of 'em. No other businesses at this stage. I'm just waiting for canned culture to buy all of us. And then I can get back to surfing. Yeah. Deep pockets Cole.

So let's talk about team culture. Yeah. You and Dave you spoke to me first when Landy was still very much in infancy.

I think I put Kat's contract together, which I think was maybe number three. Number three. Number

three. Yeah. Yeah.

And at that time. I will never forget that conversation. Being a HR professional and hearing you sit there and talk about what was actually important to you, full land D, what was important for the growth of Land D?

It is very much a people first mindset, so can you. Talk us through what's important to you as you build and grow the team from back then to now, and things that are gonna be legacy for landing.

Yeah. From, and you've absolutely nailed it there, but I think to start with even though this happened after you and I met and Kat's contract I went to a, an event well at the Seagulls as well, and Beck Zell spoke and hopefully she's listening to your podcast.

She can sponsor it. Hey Beck. Basic. She looked into the room like she was talking, and it was all about leadership. Obviously being quite successful in her line of work with the FRA Auto Group. But she spoke about which really resonated and it was almost that moment where the light comes on my head from God.

And it was like she looked at me straight down the barrel and she said, always the person first. You'll teach them the technical side. Person first take if it's them, and even if there's two of them or three of them, take, get them all. And the rest will work itself out with the person first.

Especially, and you're probably better off to comment on this in terms of the resource market and good people and with the right morals. So for us, that resonated. But scaling, it wouldn't have only been a few months before then when we did that for Kat, is that it just it always has been the.

Person first. So for me, going back to that comment, we could all do this on our own. I even had a, a meeting about, I dunno, two hours ago with a potential person joining us where I talked about, what I really love and what I really get outta bed for. It's genuine and sincere and it's just the best is, when a client rings me up to tell me either good news or.

About a start, a team member or what they, the team members won something or whatever and then go and deliver that news and seeing their fa their wins and from their hard work, right? Like even if someone rings up and go, Hey Josh, you've done something good here and we've done this. I don't get the same feeling personally for when it's a team member that.

Achieve something, succeeds, whatever. And it might not even be Landy stuff. It might be their personal life or that they share with. So that's really important for me, the person first. 'cause I reckon, and you are in the, you're in the team. I reckon we're a motley crew. It's not like we've got a whole bunch of the same people.

Absolutely not. And we're not even all really all together all the time, as so we only get together a fair. I dunno, three or four times a year. But when it, when we do, we have a really good time and they all, they're all there at work. Ethics are amazing. And what I love too, as I said back to even the Dave relationship, it's all, when it's all unicorns and rainbows, it's all great, but you really see people in the, backs against the wall adversity the challenges.

Yeah. I don't mind saying this as I love every single one of them. I wouldn't change any of them for the world. And I sincerely believe that, and they're the reason why I turn up and that I, we can turn the podcast off. I'll tell you this, down the pub later, I'll tell you this. Wherever, I'll say the same thing to family, and that's why I do it, because yeah, we could do it on our own. But that's, I, and I'm a big believer in in living, not existing. So I think for me. That opportunity and I learned so much off them. And they're brilliant at what they do. Like you could get heaps of business owners who come in you and say the same thing and may, that's good.

Maybe we're all biased for our people. And we saw, even Zach commented, the president of yesterday comments that came back from where, we found our people was the, someone made that comment about the chamber. Yes. For me, I've found, my, my people and that's what I said.

It's interesting because we do get people outside going, oh, you are very, you are friendly or with your staff, you guys all get on like mates and and yeah, sometimes you can look at that and go like why does, it doesn't always have to be, and that's why I love about Landy.

We can be different. And I'm sure I've shown and grown as a leader, if you've gotta have the tough conversations. But I have a saying, if you have this amazing relationship. Tough conversations just become conversations and we can disagree and challenge. You and I have had that and I can go have a beer or a non-alcoholic drink with you straight, straight afterwards, right?

I don't hold grudges and all that, and I think that helps you grow. So I dunno if that answers the question, but for me, per people first, like the person first,

I think something like that's pretty. Unique across the clients that I work with Landy we have never put an ad up on seek. It's not even a question to do that because it, and it's not necessarily because yourself and Dave are so connected, but it is that handpicking of individuals to join the group.

And, I had an experience of really hearing that when in Aurora at. After the lunch a few weeks ago that Landy sponsored. And someone was just in absolute awe of the energy of the team together and the way that the connections were. And it is just that handpicking because you know who the right people are to bring into Landy, and as you said, you do teach them and you have taught.

People, their skillset. But it is the behavior and it's the work ethic that you you can't even ask questions like that in interview, so you guys have actually pulled together a bunch of. Champions in my view, like they are really amazing human beings.

Some like on that, some of them just need people to believe in them, but maybe they haven't in their, previously, in their career.

So I think yeah, opportunity as well because, and they've absolutely come outta their shell and their light and yeah, like I said, I wouldn't trade any one of them for the world and yeah.

And you talk about retention's a a huge issue, across the Gold Coast, but it's not just for the Gold Coast.

Like retention is a real issue for a lot of organizations. But because of the way that you do really lead the team with heart and you do take an investment in people's. Personal lives and what they're doing and what makes them tick. And you would normally say, okay, is that the smartest thing to do?

If you wanna grow and scale, can you grow and scale that? And I think with Landy the answer is yes, because you do know, you do lead with heart and everyone within the team leads with heart. So being able to. Capture that from a culture perspective so that you're bottling up all those right ingredients as you do grow and scale is gonna be amazing.

It's gonna, it's gonna be really interesting to see what the team looks like in three years, in five years time.

Oh, yeah. And that's the exciting part, right? And I think. Like you, you touched on a few things there, but even to the relationship side of the Chamber where we met you and coming on board and then, even tweed seagulls of like, how are you gonna get something out of a footy club?

We've hired three people, not from the seagulls, but through the seagulls network they've found us. And that's not necessarily like-minded people 'cause they enjoy sport. It's just incredible. People with incredible skills, but the right person. We are very fortunate too. Yes, there's been somewhere that hasn't had the skills, but they're just the amazing humans.

But we are very lucky. We have the best of the best in skills who also happen to be amazing humans, right? Yes. And so that's something that Dave and I are really proud of. But yeah, we, and we just love being around them. I think the culture and as I said, we are spread out in that, but everyone talks about culture and, but.

Maybe it's from a background of sports since I was four years old, like playing in a team sport. I think there's a lot to look into that, especially in the corporate world, especially. I'm a, I've been in construction 25 years and I dunno how to swing a hammer, i'm like, seriously, but I know enough to be dangerous now to talk and imagine talking geotechnical engineering.

But that's a great story though. And the fact that. It was hard. My first eight months they were like, why is this guy here just some loud Gold Coast surfy dude, footy guy? What does he know? And I'm sitting there going, these introverts, but they know how to read what the dirt's doing. But once we worked out together, we were better and stronger.

We started going. My role was bd, so I was breaking out opportunities. But we started, they realized what I brought, I realized what they brought and we were gonna meetings together. And there was that mutual respect. Yeah. And I think that taught me a lot. And I've had many lessons on the way many.

Many self-reflection points as well. And who I wanna be, which has all led to Landy and the culture is that, yeah, I, I don't want to change, I don't want us, I like that, they're into this sport or this, their kid's name or what, and I realize that would cha like. Generally might change if you're a hundred or 200.

'cause that just, that becomes hard. But I don't really think Dave and I have aspirations to be that size. I think it needs to grow organically. Yeah. And complimentary type skill sets and that. So for me, yeah, I think the day, and I say it every day and I'm very blunt, as and in terms of raw and emotive, I just sail Dave.

The day we sell, like our culture changes or goes out the window or we're not what we're, our very fabric and why we started. I don't wanna be part of Landy anymore. Yeah. And yeah.

So what would you say to someone who's on day one? They've just started and they're listening to this podcast?

I'd tell 'em who to stay away from. If you don't wanna be drinking margaritas by lunchtime. I'd give 'em the tip of which team members or don't get caught at a bar or a shout with no day one. I, for me, I would want them to feel that, that culture almost instantly. And I know it comes out at a time, but I think we could pull that off because.

It's funny when you made that comment about, Hey, what are these guys? I, it's the amount of people that have tried, not tried, but have reached out and go, Hey, if you're ever looking for this, and this, I want, I'd love to join you guys 'cause I've only been on the outside, or I see what you do. Or I've been at an event with you and your team, or you guys haven't even been there and I've met just one of your team members and.

I just love, I don't care. I'll just come work for Landy. I'll do anything. Which is, that's the ultimate com compliment, right? Which is really cool. Yeah. So for me, for the day one is that initial not like setting the standards, but this is who we are. We do, and as we, we do have standards in terms of we work hard, but we also recognize and reward.

In numerous ways, remuneration or different type of events or education and training and, we try and offer it all, but for me is yeah, they understand that we're a team. I think what's really exciting is we do have a couple of new team members now where the others are, it's not their job, but they're jumping and helping them.

And for me, that comes back to that sporting analogy, ride. Not getting right into the footy side of things, but if, your forwards aren't making meters, your backs aren't doing anything, you're only as good as your weakest link. And your team is your team. It means everything. Like why do you think I'm still mates with guys at won Grand Finals with 25 years ago and go on my annual camping trip with, and I was probably speak to them the most on WhatsApp, and that because there's a bond there.

And I feel that with Landy as well. Like we're all in it together and yeah, I really want them to see that.

So Josh, I've got one final question for you. If Landy were a song, what song would it be and why?

Definitely not Highway To Hell. That was my wedding song. No, just kidding. Good question cos Dave and I are tragic.

Nineties grunge fans. Yep. He's probably the self professor, Pearl Jam. And quick insight to him. He la latest Pearl Jam gig he went, he actually got a minivan with about nine mates and he drove around Australia, East coast of Australia to all their concerts. So it would be very remiss and he'd probably kick me outta Landy if I didn't say a Pearl Jam song.

So I'd say even flow. Even flow. Yeah. Not just 'cause of the song, but I just feel we. We do go with the flow, but it's a calculated strategic flow and it's exciting flow and it's a diverse flow. Yeah, I don't even, that's probably got nothing to do with this song. I love that song. But yeah, if I'd say he'd be proud of me even Flo Pearl Jam, but there's a million Pearl Jams I could probably, yeah.

Yeah. I definitely don't wanna say rear view mirror. That's a good song. And I've got, yeah, dissident all the great. I could sit here for hours on Pearle Jam, but yeah, let's go. Let's go Even flow. And one last funny story about that. Ever

see a couple of lines?

No. We got that. Crazy. I can say this now 'cause it was years ago.

Dave was a part of this too. We were just getting that crazy on A massive cat was as well. We were on a tender and we were just tender, fatigued going for months and anyway, and then we thought, let's play a game. Even though very professional, how many Pearl Jam songs can we get in? Sneak into the words and that, and or the executive summary, if you will.

And yeah, even Flow was the first song we got in and we won. So hopefully the client was a Pearl Jam fan, but who knows? But yeah, Coles, I reckon. Yeah, even flow. I'm, I'll probably think of something outside that might've been better, but, okay. I'm happy Flow. I'm happy with that. It's a great song too.

Walking in. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you.

Thank you very much for joining us today, Josh. It's been an absolute pleasure and from my perspective, I've been working with Landy for the last couple of years, I think. I think it's probably time

flies when you're having fun. Yeah.

And have seen the team grow and I'm always, it's such a privilege for me because I'm always so proud of.

Not I am proud of the way that you and Dave manage the team, and, but it's also the. The things that you come to me with when you just wanna test your thinking on things like it's, it shows such high integrity and such high respect for the individuals that are in the team. So to me, I, my role looking after the people and culture and Landy, it's not just about putting in the policies or making sure that you're compliant.

It is about really honoring that really human and that heartfelt touch that you. You're both put into Landy. It's an absolute honor for me to be part of the Landy team, and I'm so grateful to be part of the Landy family.

We really want to thank you and I think if I have the quick opportunity to say how grateful and and I like to think if you sum us up as genuine and we are very genuine about our feelings and just ultimate respect for you and what you do your business with Kan Kulture and you're an amazing pillar of strength that I've lent on as a.

As a business owner, trying to learn as we go. As and I'd like to, I share with your listeners as well, that's, I think that practice what you preach and the fact that, we feel you are a part of our team and I know Kan Kulture and you brand brilliant. I'll promote you every day of the week.

But we see you as Landy. You come to all our events we include you in everything we do. We tag you in everything you are Landy to us. And, we're very grateful. And that's that team philosophy, right? And we can't do it without you. And yeah. But I quick plug best in the business. If anyone needs HR support call Kylie please.

'cause and I know I said that in a room of 200 people the other day, and. But you Yeah I, that's genuine and we're very grateful and yeah, hopefully yeah we have you for many years to come. You can't run away just yet, so

I I will be sticking on and I love being part of it, and I'm really excited about what the future of landing and what the growth is gonna be over the years.

So thank you very much for joining me. Thanks

for having me.

Thank you everyone to, for listening to the Kan Kulture podcast, and we'll see you next time. Thanks for joining me on Kan Kulture. I'm Kylie Anne Neil, I hope today's episode gave you a clear review into the values driving your workplace.

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