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A father and daughter discuss life across their generations. Science, medicine, music, and whatever else they choose to discuss are on the table.
Aubrey
00:00
Welcome back to Generations. I'm one of your co-hosts, Aubrey.
Peter
00:04
And I am your other co-host, Peter.
Aubrey
00:07
How are you, Dad? How's it been going?
Peter
00:10
Uh, it's been going okay. I'm hanging in there. It's I I'm in that weird liminal space between You know, being on call and like having a very full schedule and everything because we're leaving for vacation in you know, uh ten days or so. And so i you know, I'm I'm trying to remain focused on what I'm supposed to be doing. And yet I'm also very excited about our upcoming trip, so I'm thinking about that a lot.
Aubrey
00:43
Yeah.
Peter
00:45
But uh other than that, yeah, just you know, plugging along. Um your mom had a concert last night, it was really good. And we had our our office barbecue Friday night. We invite everybody over and I do meat and then people just bring a bunch of food and it was good. We had over thirty people come, including their kids and People were on the trampoline non-stop and everybody else kind of sat around and we chatted for a couple hours and it was fun.
Aubrey
01:11
Yep.
Peter
01:15
But uh yeah, how have you been doing?
Aubrey
01:16
Very good. I've been pretty good. Um, it was fun to be able to see you guys last week.
Peter
01:23
Yeah, it was fun to see you.
Aubrey
01:23
That was good. Yeah, I was able to go to Salt Lake for like a pretty quick trip. Um, I had kind of a horrendous red eye on the way back that made me s so sleep deprived for like the next five days. So I still feel like I'm a little bit recovering from that.
Peter
01:38
Oh, that's rough.
Aubrey
01:42
Um it was yeah, I just do not Do well sleeping on planes, but I don't really think anyone does. Like I don't have a travel pillow, so I took like a soft T shirt and like rolled it up and then like stuck it around my neck and then put my hood on over my headphones and tried to just like stay in one place and sleep. Um, I woke up to myself like snoring a few times and I felt bad to the people around me, but I was like, well, whatever.
Peter
02:13
So So speaking of snoring, I and we're gonna see if this works. Your mom thinks I'm crazy, and she's not wrong. Um I have purchased a mandibular advancement device.
Aubrey
02:27
Right
Peter
02:28
To uh you know, it's like a basically a bite block thing that you like bite down, but it pulls your lower jaw forward to give you that kind of chin thrust that they do to keep an airway open.
Aubrey
02:34
Mm-hmm.
Peter
02:39
And and they it's supposed to diminish or according to the companies of course, eliminate snoring.
Aubrey
02:39
Yeah
Peter
02:46
Right.
Aubrey
02:46
Right.
Peter
02:46
But I'm like I'm gonna be flying. I mean, so our plane leaves at five o'clock something Thursday night. We land at 1. 30 Friday afternoon in London. Now part of that is the seven hours, you know, time change that London is ahead and stuff.
Aubrey
03:06
Yeah.
Peter
03:08
But you know, obviously we're flying overnight from Minneapolis to to London. And I'm so I know I'm gonna need to try and sort of sleep. But I don't want to like on the airplane. I don't think I want to break out my little mini CPAP machine and slap that sucker on. So I bought this mandibular advancement device to see if pulling my lower jaw forward will let me snooze sitting up but snore a little less. So I don't know.
Aubrey
03:40
Yeah.
Peter
03:41
We'll see I'll have my CPAP with me anyway because I I mean that's like one of those things where the rest of my luggage can get lost, but I will absolutely have my mini CPAP machine because I love it.
Aubrey
03:43
Yeah, we'll have to see. Yeah. Do you need the CPAP? Yep.
Peter
03:57
So if I start and it's not working, then I can always break that out. And it runs off a battery, so I could do that, but but still, I don't know that I want to be sitting there with a
Aubrey
04:02
Yeah, there you go.
Peter
04:07
full on CPAP thing coming up to my face.
Aubrey
04:12
Yeah.
Peter
04:12
So I dunno.
Aubrey
04:13
Yeah, no, that makes sense.
Peter
04:14
We shall see. We shall see. But anyway, I apologize for interrupting. You you had a crappy red eye fly bla back.
Aubrey
04:18
No no Yeah it was yeah it was just not fantastic luckily there was no like delays like no issues with the flights or anything like that, like themselves, it's just red eyes just suck. And then I had a layover like a three-hour layover in the Detroit airport
Peter
04:31
They do
Aubrey
04:35
Um, and I was so just not even like conscious because of the lack of s like we landed at like five AM or something and I didn't have my next flight to like 8 a. m. that I'm like half awake trying to like kind of find my next gate so that I can find a corner and sleep. So I like put my suitcase and my backpack, like wrapped my arms around them and like laid in the corner and tried to sleep and like set an alarm for like in an hour so I wasn't like
Peter
05:03
Yeah.
Aubrey
05:07
missing when we were um boarding or anything but of course I'm not actually sleeping that good because anytime anyone like talks or moves around me, even though I have my headphones on, I still like wake up because I'm like in a public space. Like I'm not in a deep sleep or anything. So that was not My watch was very confused m about my sleep. Like my it gave me like a sleep score of like fifteen out of a hundred that night. Which I'm honestly shocked it even gave me one that high. Um
Peter
05:38
Yeah.
Aubrey
05:39
Yeah, like the athletic app was so confused. It was like missing sleep data. I don't know how recovered you actually are. I'm like, I'm not at all.
Peter
05:45
Uh huh, uh huh.
Aubrey
05:49
And then I went home and took a bit of a nap and then had to go to work. And I was not really conscious during work either. But I made it.
Peter
05:58
Yeah
Aubrey
05:59
So it was okay. It was worth it to be able to see. everyone that last weekend so it was fun but but yeah so for today's topic we you figured we could talk about some of our favorite TV shows
Peter
06:05
Good. Good, good.
Aubrey
06:16
A bit of a chiller episode today.
Peter
06:18
Yeah, well, and I thought it would be fun to maybe talk about again what are our favorite TV shows or series? you know, when we use the term TV show in twenty twenty six, I think we just have to include serialized you know, storytelling on all the streaming services. So again, this this this doesn't have to be something that aired on TV, it but it's just something that is that is episodic in nature.
Aubrey
06:37
Yeah. Yep.
Peter
06:46
and not a movie, but that is episodic in nature. And I thought it would be interesting because when I started thinking about this, we're going to see
Aubrey
06:49
Yeah
Peter
06:55
A real strong through line in my stuff to the point that I sat there looking at it and I was almost a little embarrassed.
Aubrey
07:01
This is
Peter
07:07
Um, I'll just give everybody a quick spoiler. My man Mike Schur, he's getting repped today.
Aubrey
07:10
Mm-hmm Okay, there you go
Peter
07:15
Like like big time. Unintentionally so, but it was like I'm listing my favorite. I think I listed like five my what I would consider my five favorite TV show series at this point in my life
Aubrey
07:25
Yeah.
Peter
07:29
And three of the five are Mike Schur shows.
Aubrey
07:32
That's funny.
Peter
07:33
So clearly he and I vibe in some way.
Aubrey
07:34
That's funny.
Peter
07:37
But I thought it could but I was thinking it could be interesting to see
Aubrey
07:37
Very good.
Peter
07:40
You know, what is it? What shows do we like? What works for us? What about these shows draws us to them And and then kind of see. And I'm curious to hear what your, you know, what your experience is, because what I would say is these are shows for me that I can Like go back and just watch again and re-watch, you know?
Aubrey
08:02
Yep. Mm-hmm.
Peter
08:04
Um and and we'll talk about why, but but yeah, that was kind of that was sort of my thought behind this, is to see what clicks for us and and I will say for me in particular, because I'm old, uh it's changed. So I you know, I thought I'd kind of talk about what I used to like and then kind of what I you know, what's changed now.
Aubrey
08:20
Yeah
Peter
08:26
So anyway, sorry.
Aubrey
08:26
Yeah, totally. Yeah, I definitely I have like a weird thing with TV shows and movies. I don't know. It's kind of hard for me to watch new ones because I don't know, it's just hard for me to like get into a new show. I'm also really picky about if it's gonna stress me out.
Peter
08:46
Sure
Aubrey
08:46
Um which I know I think we have in common. Um if it's gonna like stress me out, I don't really wanna watch it um that much unless I'm like super into the story or it's like a specific circle circumstance or something like that. So I do kind of have a have a theme with some of my favorites where they're like very fun, classic, lighthearted, um
Peter
09:05
Okay.
Aubrey
09:13
shows, so yeah, I'm excited.
Peter
09:14
Okay. Well, do we wanna do how many do you have? What was your list? Did what did you come up with?
Aubrey
09:20
I have I have five.
Peter
09:22
Perfect. I have five.
Aubrey
09:23
Yes, I have five
Peter
09:24
Should we go back and forth and do each do one series?
Aubrey
09:26
Yeah, let's do it.
Peter
09:28
Okay, take it away. I'm curious.
Aubrey
09:29
Okay. One of my favorites, I think this is such a classic and will be a classic for so many people, is friends.
Peter
09:37
Okay
Aubrey
09:37
It is one of my favorites. Um, I remember when I first started watching it and I was like asking you where to where it's even like streaming and you were like, it's so crazy you're watching Friends because that was what was on for like, you know, however many years ago or whatever.
Peter
09:54
Ten years, it was ten seasons, and it was long.
Aubrey
09:56
Yeah.
Peter
09:57
Yeah, that was
Aubrey
09:58
Yeah, I it's just such a classic. I still like if I need a good background show that like I don't really want to be super paying attention, but I do want something on I do put friends on. It is funny because there's a lot of jokes that did not age very well, but it kind of makes it funnier. It kind of makes it funnier because I'm like, ooh, that's not something you should say
Peter
10:21
Yeah, it's definitely one of those where you kind of watch it and you go, oh, this is of a time.
Aubrey
10:27
It is of a time certainly. So that was yeah, that that's a classic one for me.
Peter
10:29
Yeah.
Aubrey
10:33
What about you?
Peter
10:33
Okay. So uh briefly, and please, if you've you know, feel free to do the same. Friends is is a classic Did not even come close to making my list. And here's why. When I when your mother and I were first married and we were watching Friends on Syndicated TV, I thought it was funny and I thought it was great. And I can still be entertained if it's on.
Aubrey
10:59
Yeah
Peter
10:59
But also I watch it and there are so many times where I'm like, you know, the title of this show is Friends. But why are you all such dill holes to each other sometimes?
Aubrey
11:11
Yeah, that's true.
Peter
11:13
And I guess, you know, the truth is that being friends is complicated, and and so maybe that's actually
Aubrey
11:13
That's true.
Peter
11:20
you know, pretty accurate. Is that sometimes we are awful to our friends? I don't know. But but there are lots of times where I watch it and I'm like, you're kinda bad people. Not like Seinfeld degree of bad where I'm like, you all suck.
Aubrey
11:33
Yeah. Yeah.
Peter
11:35
But in Friends, it's kind of like, eh, and there's and here's the other thing. And this is again classic TV, especially classic TV, classic sitcom trope. Where it's like this entire episode would have ended at minute two if y'all had just talked to each other
Aubrey
11:51
If you had communicated yes, yes.
Peter
11:53
If you so so I can't necessarily blame blame friends for that because the that is a classic.
Aubrey
11:58
That's a classic, yeah
Peter
12:00
I mean, how many episodes of TV are are all just about people refusing to either pick up the phone or just talk to each other clearly.
Aubrey
12:09
Right. Right.
Peter
12:11
But, you know.
Aubrey
12:11
It was literally just a miscommunication or misunderstanding that was like w a one minute thing.
Peter
12:15
Yeah.
Aubrey
12:17
Yeah, definitely. No, I agree. It is again, it's not one that I necessarily sit and like watch
Peter
12:25
Sure.
Aubrey
12:25
to make sure I'm not missing any part of the storyline because obviously it's like the classic what yeah, because you don't have to because half of the episodes are
Peter
12:27
It's because you don't have to
Aubrey
12:34
filler where the thing that happens doesn't have any, you know, weight to anything in the future. But I feel like that's kind of just the beauty of it 'cause I can have it in the background. So that's like the perfect again, perfect background. Back
Peter
12:47
And I can see that because like you said, it it is so much whether they meant it to do be like this or not, it does kind of feel like you're just hanging out with them.
Aubrey
12:47
Ground show Yep.
Peter
12:59
So yeah, I can see that.
Aubrey
12:59
Yeah, exactly. Yeah. What about you?
Peter
13:01
All right.
Aubrey
13:02
What's one of yours?
Peter
13:03
So I'm gonna go chronologically, not maybe necessarily from release date, but I'm gonna go chronologically from when I discovered these because here's the interesting thing none of the TV shows that I would currently consider my favorite RTV shows that I watched when I was your age or
Aubrey
13:26
Yeah.
Peter
13:26
Somewhere around there. Like I look at a lot of those that your mom and I used to watch, or I used to watch sitcoms.
Aubrey
13:28
Mm-hmm.
Peter
13:31
It was like it was friends and it was Everybody Loves Raymond and it was the King of Queens and it was You know, all of these sorts of things. Or if I go back when I was younger, you know, the ones my parents used to watch. I mean, I remember classics like the Cosby show, which, you know, we had to put that in the grade rotten hell because of Bill Cosby. be um category when Eden and I ranked uh ranked sitcoms.
Aubrey
13:51
Right.
Peter
13:53
But um like or or even there were a lot of shows that I really liked. Kind of in my twenties. Like I remember really, really enjoying Chuck.
Aubrey
14:02
Yeah
Peter
14:04
Your mom and I watched a lot of Chuck. Um, I remember loving Alias. And now like I tried to go back and watch Chuck and the first season was fun and I got somewhere into the second season and I was like, oh, I'm not loving this. And Alias, it's too angsty and stressful and all this stuff for where I'm at now. So my first show that I want to talk about is Avatar the Last Airbender, the cartoon.
Aubrey
14:31
Oh yes. How do I not have it on my list? I'm adding that to my list even though we're talking about it right now.
Peter
14:36
There you go. I mean, here's the thing: Avatar the Last Airbender, yes, it's a cartoon. If you're an adult who chooses to not watch it because it's a cartoon, get over yourself and you and yeah, you're an idiot.
Aubrey
14:48
Then you're an idiot.
Peter
14:51
I mean, it's fantastic.
Aubrey
14:52
You have a bad personality.
Peter
14:53
It is
Aubrey
14:54
Just kidding. Bad take.
Peter
14:56
It is it is such a good show. And and I there are a few different things about this. And again, the theme is going to emerge really e really early here. Avatar the Last Airbender is about a group of people coming together to help Aang defeat the Fire Lord. without killing him. And that's Aang's whole thing is he's like, I don't want to def I don't want, I don't want to kill him.
Aubrey
15:22
It's a guy.
Peter
15:27
This is not, this isn't the right way for me to do this. And and on the course of this, you know, we start out with a few characters and we add more characters and we see people grow. I mean, um Just like the team building Zuko's transformation from the I'm so angry
Aubrey
15:47
Mm-hmm.
Peter
15:51
Because of all these things, but I need to be the I need to I need to be the next Fire Lord and all this stuff to to rejecting that. It is a beautiful story arc. And and so many just different people along the way. But the key thing is, is it's all about these individuals Learning and growing because of the way they're helping and interacting with each other.
Aubrey
16:18
Yep.
Peter
16:19
And it's beautiful.
Aubrey
16:19
Yep.
Peter
16:20
It's it's funny, it's exciting, it's it's just it's fantastic.
Aubrey
16:27
Yep.
Peter
16:27
It's just an absolute triumph.
Aubrey
16:28
It is absolut Absolutely just so good. And that's the other thing is that you can sit and watch the storyline too. Like you can sit and be really entertained by it. Or you can also kind of put it in the background and just like chuckle at the funny moments. and stuff like that. Like it's such just a good feel-good show for me that I feel like I've rewatched it a whole bunch of times without even realizing it because I'm just like, oh I'll just put on whatever's next. And then I you know, just cycle back through like over and over again.
Peter
16:54
She died.
Aubrey
16:56
Speaking of, I f I actually want to watch some of that. Today it's such a good show.
Peter
17:00
There you go. There you go. All right, what's your next?
Aubrey
17:02
Such a good show. Okay, my next one is the good place.
Peter
17:09
Okay.
Aubrey
17:09
So I think didn't you guys just finish it?
Peter
17:13
So you know, spoiler, the good place is the last one I was going to talk about because it's the one I most recently discovered.
Aubrey
17:21
Okay, okay, yeah, so the good place I watched with Hayden and I watched it together I think it was when we were still in high school. So yeah, it's been like quite a few years, but it is so good. I love the good place.
Peter
17:37
Yes. Yes
Aubrey
17:40
The characters iconic H hilarious moments, always I'm always chuckling at everything, and yet such good plot twists.
Peter
17:49
Yes
Aubrey
17:49
Like the plot twist at the end of season one, like I lost my mind. And the way that it ends, 'cause I think there's three I wanna say there's three seasons.
Peter
18:01
Four seasons.
Aubrey
18:01
I don't know, it's been so long four seasons.
Peter
18:02
Four seasons, but they're all short. They're all I think thirteen episodes.
Aubrey
18:05
Yeah. Yeah. When we finished it, like it it ended in such a good way too, in my opinion, and
Peter
18:13
Yeah.
Aubrey
18:14
The way that it was still so light and funny, but also had a great moral to the story at the end of it, like It was just it was just so good. I I I wish I could go back to the first time I I watched it and like was finding out things with the characters again, because yeah.
Peter
18:32
So here's a here's a fun thing, especially with that first season. So your mom and I finished it and then honestly we were like Let's watch it again. So we've been watching it again.
Aubrey
18:41
Yeah, yeah
Peter
18:42
And it's a lot of fun, especially that first season before the twist. It's a ton of fun to watch the first season and be like, ha ha ha ha
Aubrey
18:49
Knowing what they know exactly.
Peter
18:50
Yeah, you're like, uh I see what they're doing here.
Aubrey
18:53
Yep, yep. Yeah, I should rewatch that one because that one is so good. It just was such a Like again, I love all the main characters. All the actors and actresses just did so well with their characters.
Peter
19:04
Oh, they killed it.
Aubrey
19:05
Like the main four, like They just did so well and all of the funny Yes Michael and Janet like all of them
Peter
19:10
But not even just them, but Michael and Janet as well. Like without Michael and Janet, it would be a weaker show
Aubrey
19:16
Yes, exactly. And all of their little, you know, pop culture references here and there that are just so funny and oh it's just such a good show. Just overall.
Peter
19:26
It is
Aubrey
19:26
Definitely a fave. What's gonna stay in my top.
Peter
19:30
So that's the first of the three Mike Schur entries on my list.
Aubrey
19:34
Mm-hmm.
Peter
19:35
And and again, the key to this is The whole point of the good place, and it's easy to misunderstand this. It's easy to watch it and think, oh, the point of the good place is that you can get better. People can improve.
Aubrey
19:54
Mm-hmm.
Peter
19:54
That's half a point. And if you only get that point, you've missed it. The point of the show is people can help each other get better and improve.
Aubrey
20:06
Mm-hmm.
Peter
20:07
Because the whole point is Eleanor and Chidi and Jason and Tahani have to find each other. And it's when the four of them find each other that then they become better people.
Aubrey
20:22
Yep.
Peter
20:23
And and and and I mean that's that's the whole key to the show.
Aubrey
20:24
Yep.
Peter
20:30
And and and and again, here's my through line. And I'm just gonna come out here and I'm gonna say it, look, we live in a world right now Where a certain political movement, and I'm not going to mince words because I don't care, the MAGA movement and people who support Trump and everything that he stands for. They have decided that the only thing that matters is the individual and what the individual wants.
Aubrey
20:55
Right, right.
Peter
20:56
And that's wrong. That is not called living in a society that is that is just wrong.
Aubrey
20:59
Yeah. Yep.
Peter
21:04
It is antithetical to every basically religious teaching of any religious denomination.
Aubrey
21:09
Of any religion ever, yes, yep
Peter
21:11
It is it is antithetical to all of the great philosophies of the ages. Like all of these people, these classic philosophers, you know, the Stoics and um Epictetus and Seneca and Aristotle and Plato, the Greek philosophers, all of these people, it was not the self.
Aubrey
21:28
Mm-hmm.
Peter
21:34
It was the self as part of the group.
Aubrey
21:36
Yep, it's it's community, it's how humans are.
Peter
21:40
I mean, we're literally wired this way.
Aubrey
21:40
It's how we are
Peter
21:43
We're wired this way.
Aubrey
21:43
Yep. Yep
Peter
21:45
And so so this movement of the self at the cost of everything else and the egocentrism and and all of this stuff, there needs to be an antidote for it. And I think that's part of the reason why this particular style of entertainment has become such an important Yes, escape, but also kind of like give me a little bit of flipping hope. And I know it's fiction.
Aubrey
22:12
Yes, yep.
Peter
22:13
And I know, but but give me something that makes me go at the end of it. Yeah, we can be good people who help other people be good people.
Aubrey
22:26
Yep, yep.
Peter
22:26
And that's the entire premise of the good place. It doesn't, you know, it is it is funny.
Aubrey
22:29
Yep
Peter
22:31
It is laugh out loud funny every single episode. You're laughing out loud at multiple different points. There are classic things that, I mean, I don't know how many times I've heard somebody refer to somebody else as basic, but that forever now is Eleanor saying, yeah basic.
Aubrey
22:47
So funny. Yo basic, yep.
Peter
22:49
I mean Yeah, it forever for the rest of my life.
Aubrey
22:52
Or holy forking shirt balls.
Peter
22:52
That's what it's going to be. Shirt balls. I know. I've started saying it like unironically.
Aubrey
22:57
It's so good
Peter
22:58
I'm just like, oh motherfucking shirt balls.
Aubrey
23:00
Yeah.
Peter
23:01
But like But that's why it's so good. And it was the same thing that I noticed in Avatar and Avatar the Last Airbender. It's it is a group of people coming together to help each other overcome their trials. And everybody has them.
Aubrey
23:16
Yep, yep
Peter
23:17
Everybody has them. And there are shared trials, but everybody has their individual trials. But just it, that's what it's about is, and that's the good place is fantastic.
Aubrey
23:25
Yeah.
Peter
23:27
Love it.
Aubrey
23:27
I agree. And especially with just so much doom and gloom in the world, I have to believe believe that even though it's media, like I have to have the feel-good, hopeful feelings of l of like community does exist and we as humans strive for community where we want to help each other and people inherently want to help other people. Like I have to I have to believe that. Or I will fall into a pit of despair. And these shows are very good at helping people remember that.
Peter
23:57
Well, and the thing is, is I think that that's part of the reason behind them. And
Aubrey
24:02
Mm-hmm.
Peter
24:02
Like I said, three of the shows I picked all have the same creative person behind them and they share this theme. And I am convinced, I don't know, Mike sure. I've never, I don't know what he looks like. I don't never read anything by him, heard any interviews.
Aubrey
24:14
Yeah
Peter
24:15
I don't know. But I look at his oeuvre and I say, oh, this is something that he cares about. This is something that matters to him.
Aubrey
24:27
Yep
Peter
24:28
And that's why he keeps saying this.
Aubrey
24:32
Right. Right.
Peter
24:34
You know? So.
Aubrey
24:35
Yeah.
Peter
24:35
Uh, all right, what's your next one?
Aubrey
24:36
Alright, what about you? You want me to do an ex one or was that 'cause that was kind of both.
Peter
24:38
Cause that I we're yeah, cause cause no, we took good place now it's yep, that one's off my list, so
Aubrey
24:43
Okay, cool. Um, let's see, my next one is New Girl. New girl, which is also similar
Peter
24:49
Okay, okay.
Aubrey
24:53
caliber to the good place and friends where it's, you know, sitcom esque. Um is short episodes, is also, you know, has the theme of people helping each other. Like it's just I don't know if you've ever seen New Girl
Peter
25:13
So your mom tried to watch New Girl. Um, she did watch a fair amount of it, but there were enough little bits I saw uh that Here's the thing, New Girl, it is kind of frenetic in the way it is paced and shot. And so every time I watched it, I I don't have ADHD.
Aubrey
25:28
Yeah.
Peter
25:32
But I would watch an episode and I'm like, I feel like I have ADHD watching this.
Aubrey
25:38
That's super fair.
Peter
25:39
So so it didn't it didn't quite work for me because of that.
Aubrey
25:40
That is super fair. Fair. That's super fair. It is lighthearted enough that it will not stress me out, which again is is quite key for these TV shows. Um It is has some, you know, enough filler scenes that you can kind of put it on in the background, but also you can still like be entertained because there's still the over arc arcing like plot lines and you know the relationships and things that are continuing through that you want to make sure you're like, you know, catching everything that's happening. But it is very It is just funny and awkward enough that it's funny because Hayden sometimes will literally be like, I'm getting secondhand embarrassment. from like how horribly awkward some of these characters are. Like this is a little hard to watch because it's so like you just get this horrible secondhand. Like, why are you doing that? Why are you please stop, stop? But I kind of love it because I know it's so not realistic, these things that are happening, that I can laugh at it. Um I love the relationships between each of the roommates. Um, I think that their moments together are hilarious, and there's a few key characters like Schmidt. Um who is just like it just absolutely hilarious and so quotable. Um and I just I just love it. It has a lot of like longevity. I think about it a lot because of all the quote like quotes that I am always pulling from New Girl all the time. And then Hayden's like, what is that from?
Peter
27:13
Okay.
Aubrey
27:14
And I'm like, New Girl Like yeah, again, I'm quoting something.
Peter
27:17
There you go.
Aubrey
27:19
Like there's this scene where Schmidt, one of the characters who's supposed to be like the douche bag, they have like a douche jar where if he says anything douchey, he has to put a dollar bill in the douche. douchebag jar um because he consistently says douchebaggy things.
Peter
27:29
What is that?
Aubrey
27:33
Anyway, um he like I don't remember the context, but he's like out of school and there's a little um girl in the room and She's like, a white man came in here and he goes a white man? No! What did security do about it? And she goes, nothing. And he goes, typical and I just laugh at it every time Like I'm always going a white man no what did security do about it? Nothing difficult this is so good Oh my gosh. So anyway, that is one of my top favorites. Funnily enough though, I don't think I've ever actually consecutively consecutively watched it through the whole way, 'cause there's like six seasons, I think.
Peter
28:18
Okay.
Aubrey
28:19
And I don't even think I've seen almost any of season five or six. So who knows? It could be knocked off my favourites list once I actually see the full seasons, but for now it's still there.
Peter
28:31
Hey, you know, for now it's there.
Aubrey
28:33
So yep, exactly.
Peter
28:34
Very good.
Aubrey
28:35
But what about you?
Peter
28:35
Yeah, like I say, your mom, I don't think she finished it, but she started watching it and um I I think at some point near the end actually she kind of fell off, but I I I think some of it was just that it was a little too Chaotic and frenetic for her, but but yeah.
Aubrey
28:51
Yeah, that's super fair.
Peter
28:54
Um all right, so the next one I'm gonna mention, and again, this is because it's the next one in terms of when I discovered it But that would be Ted Lasso. So especially season one, but I'm definitely not a hater. of seasons two and three. I think that Bill Lawrence, who created the show, had a story he wanted to tell. He had Um you know he had an arc that he wanted the characters to go through, and I think that had seasons two and three just been more of season one, I don't think we would have uh I don't think that we would have had as good of character arcs.
Aubrey
29:23
Mm-hmm.
Peter
29:33
So, you know, like everybody else, I discovered the first season of Ted Lasso during the pandemic when it was just a messed up time. And in a lot of ways, we were all isolated, though n not as much for me, I think, as a lot of people because of the nature of my work. I still was at work doing surgeries and seeing people in clinic and all that stuff all the time.
Aubrey
29:54
Right.
Peter
29:56
But, you know, the first season especially is this is Ted coming in and what does he do? First thing he does, he hangs that believe sign in the locker room. And he has this attitude, this ah shucks, golly G optimism or positivity that is a little off-putting.
Aubrey
30:17
Yeah.
Peter
30:19
But they do a really good job of showing why and where that comes from. And that to a significant degree, I think that it is a defense mechanism for Ted, and he has to learn that over the course.
Aubrey
30:35
Absolutely.
Peter
30:38
of the series. And I think that he does. And he has to come to terms with some really heavy crap between both his past and his, you know, when it's his his dad dying and um dealing with the dissolution of his marriage and and a whole bunch of things that but also but here's the thing but it's not just Ted we get Roy Kent and his growth from being the aging captain to being, you know, a co uh a a coach and and invol improving and growing in his role and understanding himself better and we get Jamie Tartt i mean look you wanna hate Jamie Tartt
Aubrey
31:12
Mm-hmm. Yeah.
Peter
31:23
But, you know, you get to a point where you're just like, oh, no, like this is a kid. You you meet his dad and you're like, this kid's messed up.
Aubrey
31:32
Yeah
Peter
31:33
Like he and and the way it gets back to the same thing. If it was just Ted being funny ah shucks golly gee, it would have been an entertaining show that we would have then very quickly forgotten about.
Aubrey
31:50
Yeah
Peter
31:50
But it's the fact that Ted has to grow as the team grows and we watch the transformation of Ted's relationship um between all of the people. there, including, you know, the coaching staff and the owners and the players and the way they change and they have different relationships with each other. Just so much about it. I think really, again, it emphasizes this. We can become better people, but only as we work together as we come together.
Aubrey
32:24
Yeah.
Peter
32:24
And and I want to mention this because I I think that it's um I think that it's important.
Aubrey
32:25
Yep.
Peter
32:30
And again, this is this was in in my good place thing and then I kind of forgot about this part. But I guess when Mike Schur read it, um, or or was getting was working on it, I don't know if this was what started the idea or if this was in his ideation. But he read that book, What Do We Owe Each other, from T.M. Scanlon and consulted with real-world ethicists to build this because that's his whole that was the whole premise of this is well, what do we owe each other?
Aubrey
32:49
Mm-hmm.
Peter
32:58
And you look at Ted Lasso, and that's the same thing, is you've got Ted coming in with this idea that he's there to help the team. You've got um and I feel terrible. I'm blinking on Hannah Waddingham's character name now in there.
Aubrey
33:13
I'm also forgetting, but whatever her name is.
Peter
33:14
Um But yeah, you know, you've got her, she's bringing Ted in to destroy this out of revenge because of the, you know, the bad things that happen with her and Rupert.
Aubrey
33:21
Yep.
Peter
33:25
And and it's them learning what they owe each other. And I was re-watching season one recently and Man, that episode when she comes into his office and tells him why she hired him and and he forgives her It is one of the more powerful moments of anything I've ever seen, personally.
Aubrey
33:54
Yeah.
Peter
33:55
And and that's the idea, that's the core tenet through this all is It's broken, flawed people coming together and learning to be better versions of themselves. By helping the other person become better.
Aubrey
34:12
Right.
Peter
34:13
So love it.
Aubrey
34:14
Right.
Peter
34:14
And and again, yeah, are the next two seasons quite the same tone as the first? No, are they still good? Yeah, and I'll fight anyone who disagrees. Like that core h tenet, that core heart of that story and that series is there in all three seasons.
Aubrey
34:32
Yeah.
Peter
34:32
It's just They had to, I mean, they had to take it in different directions to actually make it meaningful.
Aubrey
34:38
Right.
Peter
34:39
So Okay, what's your next one?
Aubrey
34:39
Right. Yeah. I love it. Alright, my next one is going to be WandaVision
Peter
34:48
Uh, I wondered if WandaVision was gonna be there.
Aubrey
34:49
So, yeah. So I have rewatched WandaVision like so many times. There was like four night shifts I remember where I was on a one-to-one where I'm literally just watching this kid sleep so that the kid doesn't like like pull out their tube or something, but like that means there's like eight hour like an eight hour stretch where the kid doesn't move because they're just literally asleep, but I still have to be in there. Um so I would just download WandaVision and watch it over and over and over again.
Peter
35:23
There you go
Aubrey
35:26
Um I I loved it so much because realizing what's happening And like how creepy the like first two episodes are when you're first realizing, you know, something is wrong. This isn't like you know, this isn't real what's happening sort of thing. Oh, it's just so good. Like I I've always loved Wanda. Wanda is one of my favorite Avengers and they just did her so dirty in Multiverse of Madness that it just hurts me. my heart so much, but I love her so much. She's so iconic. She's like has like the coolest frickin' powers ever. And like In WandaVision with her like literally coming into being the Scarlet Witch by the end, oh, it's just Iconic. It's just so good. Um I should probably rewatch it honestly because it's really good. But yeah, I especially because that was like the first I feel like that was the first Mar one of the first Marvel like
Peter
36:26
It was.
Aubrey
36:27
Series.
Peter
36:27
It was the first one. It was supposed to be Falcon and the Winter Soldier, but then because of I think it was COVID delays, it got bumped.
Aubrey
36:29
Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah, so that was the first yeah, that was the first series, and so I hadn't quite fallen off my Marvel game at that point. So I was super excited about it and was on it every every week that the episodes came out I was on it. So um yeah, that one is just iconic. I just love it. I love vision. I love Wanda. I love Vision realizing what's happening. And then you know he'll be like, why is there no children in Wanda? Westview and then the next episode she has she thought children everywhere, you know, she like made so there's children everywhere. She's like Oh, all the like breaking the fourth wall and oh, it's just so cool. I love all the little details that they do throughout it, especially at the end when you knew like knowing what you know now, then going back and watching it and like noticing all the little things. Oh, it's just so So good.
Peter
37:22
Yeah.
Aubrey
37:22
So
Peter
37:23
It is really good. And it's almost I I can't tell. I haven't decided if it was good or bad that it was the first one because It was good in that it came out and everybody was like, oh my gosh, this Marvel Disney Plus stuff, this is gonna be awesome. And it was bad because I don't think anything has held up to it. I think that Loki was probably the next strongest.
Aubrey
37:45
I agree. The closest, yeah.
Peter
37:48
Um, I I love the Hawkeye series because it's fun, but
Aubrey
37:48
I agree. Mm-hmm.
Peter
37:54
Like nothing really I mean, come on. We're years passes. Where the heck is Kate Bishop? She was amazing. We need more Kate Bishop.
Aubrey
38:01
Yeah. Right.
Peter
38:02
Um so it kind of feels like a lot of fumbles there on that, but that was a really good one out of the gate. And I agree, you know, it's it's excellent. Um very, very good, very well done.
Aubrey
38:14
Yeah.
Peter
38:14
So
Aubrey
38:15
All right, what's next on yours?
Peter
38:16
Okay, so my next one, Brooklyn Nine-Nine.
Aubrey
38:20
Yep, I was wondering where this one is gonna be.
Peter
38:21
I love Brooklyn 99 I had heard about it and finally decided to watch it, got into it, not really knowing what I was getting, and almost immediately was like, oh, this is something special. Uh Re Captain Raymond Holt. Played by Andre Braugher. Sadly passed away a year or two ago from lung cancer. Captain Raymond Holt. In my opinion, is the greatest TV character ever created.
Aubrey
38:55
High praise, high praise.
Peter
38:55
Like, like so many, I mean you talked about the all of the quotable things from um New girl. We have so many different quotes that's Captain Raymond Holt. I mean, just things like, you know, the scene where Jake's like, drum roll, please, and he's like
Aubrey
39:10
Yeah.
Peter
39:15
And Jake's like, that's your drum roll. And he's like, looks at Holt looks up at him, he's like, any sensible person would default to Lento. You know, it's just like Things like that. And then, you know, Bing Pot, like we say Bingpot all the time, because like a combination of bingo and jackpot and um just yeah, so many different things.
Aubrey
39:27
Oh, man.
Peter
39:37
But again, and I know I'm beating this like a dead flipping horse. The whole thing that makes this work is it is this found family. It is this team coming together. It is Captain Holt who has been ostracized for being an openly gay black policeman in New York City, being embraced and becoming, you know, this this parental figure to so many of these. It's Jeffords beating that s kind of like the, you know, the second if maybe maybe he's the dad and Holtz the grandpa or something. But but like
Aubrey
40:09
Mm-hmm.
Peter
40:11
Him, it is the very first episode, they're hammering home this competition between Jake and Amy, where they're trying to see who can get the most arrests. And And then to see them too become one of maybe my favorite TV couple ever. Um, it's watching Charles.
Aubrey
40:27
Yeah.
Peter
40:30
go from pining after Rosa to him and Rosa becoming legitimately good friends as Charles grows up and moves on. It's you know just so many of these characters
Aubrey
40:36
Yeah.
Peter
40:40
Great stories, great arcs. It is funny as heck. And and again, it is a team of people coming together and and dealing with difficult things. And there's a lot of people who I know um won't watch it anymore because of the final season. And to them I say you and your cop loving self can just take a a long walk off a short pier.
Aubrey
41:00
Yeah. Oh, is the last season like
Peter
41:08
So the last season is very much them kind trying to come to terms with being a police officer in the wake of the George Floyd attacks and the racial profiling and all of that kind of stuff.
Aubrey
41:18
Yeah, I was gonna I was gonna see how did they handle that?
Peter
41:22
Oh, very much like very much pretty pretty head on. Rosa leaves the force and becomes a private detective because she can't do it anymore.
Aubrey
41:27
Yeah. Oh wow. Yeah
Peter
41:31
Um and and Holt and Kevin, they're on the path to getting divorced because of the hardships this has put between straining them where, you know, they don't They're trying to figure out what to do and so that it very much confronts that change that happened in in people's perception of what it means to be a police officer. And and but even before I mean there are episodes where there's one episode where Jake, I mean, where Scully and Hitchcock didn't write down they got a confession or f or a statement from a witness, but they didn't write down any identifying information. And it's all Rosa and Amy are like, oh you idiots, we gotta figure this out, because if we don't have the person then You know, if we can't get the person, then nothing, none of this is gonna stick. And finally you come to find out, Hitchcock and Scully are like, no, we didn't do it because they're an undocumented immigrant. And immediately Amy and Rose are like, and so they can't come to court because then they're gonna get X, you know, that kind of stuff.
Aubrey
42:28
Yep, yep
Peter
42:28
And You know, and it's this funny moment where it's like where Hitchcock and Scully, you know, Amy and Rosa are like, oh, that's you know, you're really thinking about this, that or the other. And they're just like, Nadoy, we know that. You know, it's like from the buffoons, this surprising moment of insight. But you know, they definitely they address a lot of that kind of stuff.
Aubrey
42:46
Yeah.
Peter
42:49
They, you know, in in not the last season, but the second to last season, I think it is, they address uh a whole issue of police overstepping and, you know, doing
Aubrey
42:57
Yeah.
Peter
42:58
is surveillance of citizens without due cause.
Aubrey
43:00
Mm-hmm
Peter
43:02
And and so they don't shy away from that. And I know there are people who are like, oh well it wasn't as fun and it wasn't as funny. And I'm like But that's a thing.
Aubrey
43:10
Okay, well
Peter
43:10
It's supposed to be fun and funny, but the I I value the fact that Mike Schur, again But Mike sure had the balls to say, no, if we're telling a story about police officers, these are real things and we're going to address them.
Aubrey
43:24
You need to tell the whole story, yeah. Yeah, I was gonna ask because I kind of have not watched Brooklyn 99 just because I was like, I don't know if I can
Peter
43:27
So
Aubrey
43:35
can stomach watching a cop show. Like even if it's like, you know, funny and whatever, but I just was like, I don't know if I can even if they're being funny, I s and it's like not real. I don't know. With just everything, I was like, I don't know
Peter
43:49
No, so i in the eighth season there's a whole arc where, you know, there's there's a guy who is like the head of the police officers union.
Aubrey
43:49
Do it, but that's cool.
Peter
44:01
And he's basically doing everything he can to prevent police officers from being held accountable. And and Holt and Jake like go right at him and they do a whole thing where there's an episode where Jake
Aubrey
44:11
Yeah.
Peter
44:14
kind of inac like is following somebody thinking that they're a suspect, but overstepping and and he ends up like admitting that he did wrong and that he has to be suspended for six months
Aubrey
44:25
Yeah. Oh wow.
Peter
44:29
Because of it.
Aubrey
44:29
Wow. Yeah.
Peter
44:30
So they don't they don't they do a good job where it starts off and it's easy to feel like it's copaganda. Um, but I think that they were very smart in that they they realized, no, we can't just do that. And and they address a lot of those difficult things.
Aubrey
44:44
Yeah.
Peter
44:48
So I totally understand that being a reason why you're like, oh, I don't know if I want to watch it. Um, I would say knowing that Again, I know people in my personal life who do not like the show because it did that. It had the nerve to do that. And I thir personally am like, no, I respect it more because it said we're going to go there.
Aubrey
45:11
No, definitely. Like that definitely makes me want to watch it. more than I did before, like knowing they they were able to address some of those issues.
Peter
45:15
Yeah.
Aubrey
45:20
Cause you can't have a cop show without that. Like you just can't. Like you can't ignore everything that's happened in the last six years and and before with like you know the Black Lives Matter movement in first in twenty sixteen and everything.
Peter
45:28
No
Aubrey
45:33
Like you can't you can't just pretend everything is fine and dandy with how intent. events have been. So that's cool. I'm glad that they they addressed it in a good way.
Peter
45:42
No, it definitely addresses it.
Aubrey
45:43
So that's cool.
Peter
45:44
And again, for me, it makes it a show that I can go back and re-watch knowing that they had the courage to do that. and to address those some of those police issues that way, as opposed to um
Aubrey
45:52
Mm-hmm, yeah
Peter
45:59
It would have been funny if you watch it through and it was just, ha ha, this is a slapstick silly sitcom taking place in a police precinct, but it very much is it it there's a lot more to it than that.
Aubrey
46:09
Yeah, that's awesome.
Peter
46:10
So yeah.
Aubrey
46:11
Very good.
Peter
46:12
Oh yeah, I mean there's even one episode where I would say Terry Jeffords, you know, Sergeant Jeffords is in a neighborhood at night looking for his one of his twins' little stuffed animal or something.
Aubrey
46:12
All right. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Peter
46:24
And gets harassed by a white police officer.
Aubrey
46:26
And he's like, dude, I'm a girl.
Peter
46:27
And well, but but the thing is, is the other guy is like Oh yeah, I'm so sorry I didn't know you were a cop. And Jefford's whole thing is it shouldn't matter. I was a
Aubrey
46:39
Right, it shouldn't matter.
Peter
46:41
I was a person looking for something. And you don't think I belong in that neighborhood, but hey, I live in that neighborhood. And just because like, so it it totally tackles, you know, racial stereotyping. in by the police.
Aubrey
46:53
Yeah.
Peter
46:54
So again, you should watch it.
Aubrey
46:55
Yeah Very cool.
Peter
46:57
I think you'll enjoy it.
Aubrey
46:58
Yeah.
Peter
46:58
And and know that they're
Aubrey
46:58
Yeah. Definitely the the few episodes that you guys have put on when we're over have always been enjoyable, so
Peter
47:05
Yeah, and just know that it like I say, it it it is still fun, but it is willing to it's willing to push and go in directions that that make you at least go, okay, they're at least aware of this, which I appreciate.
Aubrey
47:18
Yeah, yeah. Very good.
Peter
47:20
Okay. Is this your last one?
Aubrey
47:23
Yes, I have my last one, which is I I put it in my top because I how do I say
Peter
47:23
Okay, that's what I thought.
Aubrey
47:34
I have a love-hate relationship with it.
Peter
47:37
Okay, I'm looking forward to hearing what this thing is.
Aubrey
47:38
Um and I've mentioned it before, but it's Game of Thrones.
Peter
47:43
Okay
Aubrey
47:44
Um, it's a love-hate relationship because I'm I get really invested in the story. I do love fantasy. Like I love fantasy books, like I
Peter
47:52
Sure. I mean, yeah, we totally do.
Aubrey
47:54
I favor genre, to be honest. But so, and of course, everything is such high stakes that you kind of can't help but get really invested in the story because there's just Such high stakes. Like it just gets so intense right off the bat. And I'm like, I just have to know what happens. But we are now on season. Five or something like that. See yeah, I don't know. Whatever. And it is just Bummer after bummer.
Peter
48:27
Yeah.
Aubrey
48:27
Like there's just nothing good happens and none no good characters are left.
Peter
48:31
No
Aubrey
48:34
They have no problems with just murdering my fate like the only good characters. Like when I was first watching it through, I was watching it with Liv, my best friend. And after we got like, we're like halfway through the first season, and I'm like, if you had to pick, do you think that there is any character that's like morally good?
Peter
48:54
There's one
Aubrey
48:54
Like who do like I was like, who do you think is morally good? And we had to rack our brains to be like who do we think is actually like a morally good guy
Peter
49:06
So
Aubrey
49:06
And consistently there is still one throughout all the season so far
Peter
49:11
And so here's the thing I'll say. I haven't watched it, and then we'll get back. I haven't watched it Because it doesn't meet my criteria of ways I want to spend my time.
Aubrey
49:25
Yes, and that's fair.
Peter
49:25
That's just me.
Aubrey
49:26
And that's fair.
Peter
49:27
I read A Game of Thrones, the first book
Aubrey
49:31
Yeah
Peter
49:32
And at the end of that book, I'm like, there was only one morally good person, and that was Ned Stark, and he gets his head chopped off.
Aubrey
49:37
Yep, my boy. And he gets his head chopped off. Yep.
Peter
49:41
And and so then I was like, well, I don't want to read any more of this, and I certainly have zero interest in watching it. And I've seen little bits here and there. I was in a hotel a couple months ago, or maybe a month or so ago. I was in a hotel. For a work trip and I just was getting ready to go to bed, flipped on the TV, and then episode of Game of Thrones was on. And I was like, oh, let me watch this. And after about like 15 minutes, I was like, uh, I'm good.
Aubrey
50:10
What episode was it?
Peter
50:12
I don't know.
Aubrey
50:12
Do you remember?
Peter
50:13
I don't know what season. I don't know. All I know is that oh, I I mean
Aubrey
50:15
Do you know what was happening? Just curious
Peter
50:20
Daenerys and her little mini pa baby dragons was outside some city and they were gonna destroy the city because they had slaves and
Aubrey
50:29
Oh, yes, yep.
Peter
50:30
Then then some dude who was like um oh Robert Baratheon. See, I remember some of the names because I did read the book. But like a guy who was one of Robert Baratheon's bastard children is coming back to King's Landing and Yeah, it was just n I didn't like any of the people and I'm like, I can tell this is not for me.
Aubrey
50:54
Yeah. No, and that's funny. It's funny because all my other favorite shows were ones that were not gonna stress me out, and this is like the definition of stressing me out.
Peter
51:00
Oh, this is like stress
Aubrey
51:03
This is like the the definition of a show that's gonna stress you out. So it's very like I gotta be in the right mindset for it. I gotta be but it is like again it's kinda the one show where I'm like, I really wanna pay attention attention and actually be invested in everything that's happening 'cause there's so many in high stakes plot lines, but so again, love hate relationship because sometimes I'm like, I don't I don't want to watch this anymore because it's just no one is getting any wins.
Peter
51:30
Yeah.
Aubrey
51:33
Like there's no wins for anyone. Everyone is just it's just bad on bad on bad. But When there are some wins, they are big wins. So it does kinda keep me like and I just wanna know what happens. I really do. Um, I know that the last season or two um are supposed to be really, really horrible. and everyone hates them. So we'll see how we end up feeling about those. But yeah, like they just, like, I mean, full, full spoilers I'm just gonna say it because you're never gonna watch it and whatever.
Peter
52:08
No, I'm never gonna watch it.
Aubrey
52:10
I don't know if you've ever heard of The Red Wedding.
Peter
52:12
Oh, I've heard all about it.
Aubrey
52:14
Yeah. So like that episode, I was sitting with like my jaw dropped the whole time because I was like, oh, they just murdered half the main characters. They just murdered half the main characters and every single one that I genuinely actually liked and thought were pretty good good people They murdered all of them. Every single one is dead in one in one in one event
Peter
52:38
Yeah. Yeah
Aubrey
52:42
Like I was like I was really shooting for Robb Stark and his new wife and Catelyn Stark and their whole thing. No, they're all dead. They're all dead. Like that was just and I'm sure you know they they did what they meant to do. That was there was some crazy shock factor there, but yeah, so love hate relationship with that one. Definitely have to be emotionally prepared to watch an episode and their the episodes are so freaking long that it's just like it's not like oh I'm just gonna turn on an episode of Game of Thrones. It's like okay we're gonna watch an episode episode of Game of Thrones lock in basically.
Peter
53:18
Yeah. Yeah
Aubrey
53:21
So it's taking us a while to get through it, but yeah, I'm okay to Take it at my own pace.
Peter
53:27
There you go.
Aubrey
53:28
But yeah, that's my last one.
Peter
53:30
So uh before I throw out my last one, I I I think it's interesting when I look at what is often considered like prestige TV over the last few decades. Like so much of it is stuff I just don't have any interest in because it's it is it's gonna be stressful. And the truth is, is my job is very stressful. And every day there are stressful situations and there are people, whether it's other, you know, medical personnel or if it's patients or their family, people who are stressed. And it's my job to help them manage that stress. And so the last thing I need is more unnecessary stress in my life.
Aubrey
54:14
Mm-hmm.
Peter
54:16
So all of these, you know, prestige TV shows. So Game of Thrones or more recently, you know, The Last of Us or Going Back, The Wire, Sopranos, Breaking Bad, Better Call Saul, Mad like all of these TV shows that are considered Oh, these are like some of the greatest of all time. I'm like, I don't have any desire to watch them because they're stressful. And so many of them are that are about bad people being bad and in some cases getting away with it.
Aubrey
54:42
Being bad, yeah
Peter
54:45
You know?
Aubrey
54:45
Yep.
Peter
54:46
And it's like, that's not what I want. I don't, I don't want to watch that.
Aubrey
54:49
Yep.
Peter
54:50
So my final entry into this and the third of the three Mike Schur picks. is the very recent A Man on the Inside on Netflix.
Aubrey
55:00
Okay.
Peter
55:00
First of all, let's just say Ted Danson is a flippin' treasure. That man is just so good. I mean, in re-watching The Good Place, there's so many times where as Michael, you're just like, he's so good. He's so good at like
Aubrey
55:19
So good.
Peter
55:21
being the vulnerable overwhelmed architect versus being the dev you know the the torturer versus him
Aubrey
55:30
The evil torture, yeah
Peter
55:32
Just like and so uh having a a show that he's the main character, that right there puts it into the delightful category. Um two seasons out, the first season, so
Aubrey
55:41
Yeah.
Peter
55:45
And again, it's the same stinking thing. Ted Danson's character, his wife, died. She had Alzheimer's and then she dies. That's the setup. He is a retired engineering professor in California in the Bay Area. Um his daughter is Trying to stay connected with him, but he's kind of a weird old engineering professor. Where like He'll cut out newspaper articles and write little something sort of passive aggressive and then mail it to his daughter and But he ends up taking a job as a man on the inside to go into a retirement community to figure out who stole some necklace. So he gets hired to go in, and as he goes in there, he starts to open up and he makes new relationships with these other retirees. And it's super sweet and it's a little tragic and sad because it deals with, you know, one of the people in there and the person who ends up being the one who stole the necklace. Spoilers. She has Alzheimer's. She gets moved to the memory care side while he's in there. And so it all ties into that. And so the pain of him seeing this, having gone through this with his wife. But then on the outside, you have the Julie, I think Julie Kovalenko, who's the private investigator who's hired him. And in the second season, it becomes even more apparent where she's broken and kind of messed up. And it's why she is the way she is. In the second season, he goes undercover as a visiting professor at a university to help figure out something that's going on there. But it's all about him connecting again with his daughter and him and her connecting with her family and the you know him and Julie the Two of them coming together and connecting and just the him making connections with other people again after the death of his wife. It's the same thing over and over again. It's that you you gotta connect with other people. That that's You know, don't worry so much about making yourself better. Don't worry so much about yourself. Help other people, and you're gonna become better along the way. And that just seems to be the thesis of a lot of these, of all four or five of my shows that's in there.
Aubrey
58:00
Yeah Yeah.
Peter
58:06
But it's because I think it's such an incredibly essential world view for people to have at this time.
Aubrey
58:16
Yeah.
Peter
58:17
And is this just escapism?
Aubrey
58:17
Yeah
Peter
58:20
Is it just like a Placating panacea to make us feel better about the fact that we have all this bull crap going on in the world? I don't think so. I don't think so. Because that's what I think art is best when it connects with us and when it has something to say.
Aubrey
58:40
Yeah
Peter
58:43
And that then that can inspire us. And is it a stretch to call some of these things art? Maybe, but not really.
Aubrey
58:52
Not really, yep.
Peter
58:53
People worked hard on these. They're talented writers and actors and all this. And the people who made them, there a lot of talent went into these TV shows. And just because something is funny, or just because it's thought to be for kids like Avatar the Last Airbender, it doesn't mean that it's not still art and it can connect with us and it can inspire us and it can
Aubrey
59:11
Yeah.
Peter
59:14
provoke us to think about things differently. It can make us you know, again, the last season or two of Brooklyn Nine Nine can be a little hard to watch because it's not as fun.
Aubrey
59:17
Yeah.
Peter
59:24
The second two seas the last two seasons of Ted Lasso are not as fun as the first because they make you ask questions.
Aubrey
59:32
Yeah.
Peter
59:32
But I think that if we're willing to ask questions And say, okay, what is this trying to tell me? And what can I learn about myself and life and those around me from this whatever it is I'm taking in?
Aubrey
59:42
Yeah. Right, right.
Peter
59:45
uh then it isn't just a placating panacea. Then it is meaningful stuff, meaningful entertainment that can still inspire us and move us forward.
Aubrey
59:49
Mm-hmm. Yeah, I agree. No, and I definitely the again with the same theme, it feels like they're putting They're putting like the community first again rather than the individual um in all of the shows and I'm gonna go just teensy bit off topic here, but on on a little bit of a tangent, but because I've just been
Peter
01:00:05
Yes
Aubrey
01:00:13
thinking about this a lot lately, where it feels like we kind of have lost the plot when it comes to having like a village or a community around us because of just the way that capitalistic society is so individualistic and especially with the government, you know, socio political economic state of the world right now.
Peter
01:00:27
Yes.
Aubrey
01:00:31
Um like it's so individual that then it feels like I don't know. Then it feels like people take the whole, I need to look out for myself and put myself first. Like we've gone a little too far.
Peter
01:00:43
Yeah
Aubrey
01:00:43
There, where I feel like we if you want to have a village, you need to be willing to make like little sacrifices to support your village and your community. You know what I mean?
Peter
01:00:55
Yes.
Aubrey
01:00:55
Like, for example, I shouldn't have to like Venmo you for a coffee for you to come pick me up from the airport because you're my friend. You know? Like we should do things for each other without feeling like it needs to be transactional. And like it again, it feels like It just feels like we've lost the plot a little bit. It feels like why can't we just do things for each other because we're lifting each other up as a community rather than I need to put myself first? I need to, you know, take care of myself, but then you're like ruining your your relationships with your community. You know?
Peter
01:01:33
Well
Aubrey
01:01:33
Like, does that make sense?
Peter
01:01:34
No, it totally makes sense.
Aubrey
01:01:35
Like
Peter
01:01:36
So the other week, um, it wasn't this last week, it was the week before last, I think. I think it was, yeah. Um one of our nurses is going through some crap. Like, I'll just leave it at that. She's going through some stuff. and very much trying to keep it isolated from work and not let it impact things, but we all know about it because we're all, you know, we're all we all care about each other enough to at least have some idea what's going on. And and I just I said in the middle of the day, I said, look, if she needs help tonight, just let us know. And she was hemming and hawing and she didn't want to ask. And and I can I I would imagine that some of this is You don't want to ask because what would really be awful is if you asked and then you didn't get help. Like that would be that would suck. And, you know, I look at the other, I look at kind of the environment that we're in in medicine, and you know, I think this is Sadly, I think this was a unique thing. But at 4 30, a text got sent out to the group was that actually, you know, yeah, she'd love some help. Here's where to show up. And we had a ton of people show up.
Aubrey
01:02:49
Yeah. Yeah, that's awesome
Peter
01:02:51
A ton of people show up and then we spent like two hours unloading her house and packing it into trailers and getting it loaded up and out of there. And like not a single person who was there was ever at one point in any way thinking, well, what do I get out of this?
Aubrey
01:03:09
Right.
Peter
01:03:10
It was literally just this is a person we care about.
Aubrey
01:03:10
Right.
Peter
01:03:15
She needs help. We're gonna show up.
Aubrey
01:03:18
Yeah.
Peter
01:03:18
Period.
Aubrey
01:03:18
Yeah.
Peter
01:03:19
End of story. That's all that matters.
Aubrey
01:03:22
Right. Like she doesn't need to get you guys pizza for helping for like helping her.
Peter
01:03:27
No.
Aubrey
01:03:27
Like you can just help because you have a community and you are trying to support each other and you know that they would do that for you in return if you needed help.
Peter
01:03:33
Yes
Aubrey
01:03:37
And that feels like that needs to be the point. It needs to not be Transactional and it feels like everything feels so transactional these days. Or it's like I need to protect my piece. I'm not gonna do that because I'm tired and I shut up! Shut up! We're all tired. Like, come on.
Peter
01:03:52
You're not wrong. Yes
Aubrey
01:03:55
Like, why can't we just support each other and we don't need anything in return? Like
Peter
01:04:01
Like, here's the thing.
Aubrey
01:04:01
Like I I want people to help other people for nothing else.
Peter
01:04:07
I very much have professional boundaries.
Aubrey
01:04:11
Yes, absolutely
Peter
01:04:12
I I'm leaving if I'm not on call. You better not no administration person better be reaching out to me about work or anything like that.
Aubrey
01:04:20
Right, right, totally, totally
Peter
01:04:22
Absolutely not. But but a person needs my help? A human being needs my help? 100%. 100%
Aubrey
01:04:30
Yes. Yep. Yep, because there's the difference between like overstretching yourself and doing things you don't need to be doing in a professional environment. Like that's That's like, yeah, you you have your professional boundaries, but if it's just like a person to person is asking for help or needs some support or something like We can do so much more for each other when we work as a community rather than everyone fending for themselves.
Peter
01:04:53
Yes.
Aubrey
01:04:56
And it's just not, yeah. Anyway, that's my rant.
Peter
01:04:59
I think it's a good rant. I think it's a great kind of capstone to again, these are not the kinds of shows they made in the eighties and the nineties. Most of those shows didn't try and have an opinion. Some of them did, but it was still pretty wishy-washy. Or or they would have a very special episode, which was the, okay, now we're gonna try and impart some meaning. And everybody knew what the very special episode meant, so you kind of didn't watch that one or you tuned it out.
Aubrey
01:05:30
Yeah
Peter
01:05:30
But it's it's these I think more modern shows, they do such a better job of saying, no, we have an opinion and we're going to share that opinion. And and that is an integral part of the entertainment. Not again a very special episode, one off. But it is, no, this is a core principle of the story we are telling. And I think that makes them better.
Aubrey
01:05:52
Yeah.
Peter
01:05:54
I think that's why for me I look at it and I say, no, the stuff I like the most has come out in the last, you know, 10 to 20 years, at the very latest. I don't remember when Avatar The Last Airbender, but that's the oldest one. But it's You know, again, I yeah, there's fun old stuff that it's fun to turn on and it's fun to have on and it's kind of in the background and whatever.
Aubrey
01:06:14
Yeah.
Peter
01:06:16
But if I'm actually gonna sit down and be and enjoy it, I it's gotta have more substance to it But it's gotta have an opinion and and for me right now, that opinion just needs to be, hey, let's help each other out because we need a little bit more of that in this world.
Aubrey
01:06:22
Absolutely. Yep, I agree.
Peter
01:06:34
So all right.
Aubrey
01:06:34
Yep. Alright, well, that was fun. I like chatting about our our favorite TV shows. Now I'm gonna go watch Avatar the Last Airbender.
Peter
01:06:44
You should.
Aubrey
01:06:44
Well We meal prep, I think, actually.
Peter
01:06:45
I mean I kind of want to watch it again myself, so.
Aubrey
01:06:47
Yeah. I'm like, oh, I haven't seen like I haven't seen it in so long. I do remember before I ever watched it I remember what got me into it was the boys watching the finale episode and I was like, this is fire.
Peter
01:06:55
Yep. It's so good.
Aubrey
01:07:01
This is so good. I was like, what?
Peter
01:07:02
It's so good
Aubrey
01:07:04
I was sat. Like I was like gonna go do something else and I was like no I'm gonna sit in the living room and I'm gonna watch this with them. I have no other context because I've never seen the rest of the show, but I am sad. This is a good show.
Peter
01:07:13
Yeah, yeah
Aubrey
01:07:14
Like this is so good So, anyways, that was fun. But we will be back in a couple weeks with another topic.
Peter
01:07:22
Maybe, maybe.
Aubrey
01:07:22
And maybe, oh, maybe, maybe not.
Peter
01:07:24
The reason I say that is because, well, we may need to take a little bit of a breakarooney Because in a couple of weeks I will be in London and I will be seven hours uh ahead of you
Aubrey
01:07:31
Yeah Indeed.
Peter
01:07:41
And so uh and I don't know if I'm I don't know if I'm taking I'm still trying to decide what my I'm like do I actually want to take an iPad?
Aubrey
01:07:43
We'll see
Peter
01:07:50
I mean a a MacBook or do I just want to take my iPad And if I really, really need to like do something mission critical, I can remote desktop into a Mac from home, but I don't know that I'm gonna take anything that I could actually record on.
Aubrey
01:07:54
Yeah Yeah.
Peter
01:08:04
So we may be taking
Aubrey
01:08:04
That's fair, we might have to take a little break.
Peter
01:08:06
We may take a, you know, what I'll maybe do, I think I said I'd do the same thing for the uh the middle of culture is I may just do like a brief drop-in like two or three minute
Aubrey
01:08:07
Well
Peter
01:08:18
Um, you know, here's what's going on from London sort of thing.
Aubrey
01:08:21
Yeah, totally. Yep.
Peter
01:08:23
So
Aubrey
01:08:23
So that might be what what happens in a few weeks. But, anyways, thank you everybody for listening, and we will see everybody later.
Peter
01:08:32
Bye