Stole My Line - A Fireside Film Podcast | 'Fantastic Mr. Fox' is a Perfect Movie

“What the cuss!” On this episode of their outdoor movie podcast, Grant, Drew, and special guest Ethan Johnston discuss Fantastic Mr. Fox! What themes does Wes Anderson tackle in this stop-motion classic?

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Chapters

(00:00) - Intro & Ethan
(02:06) - Blu-ray Gifts
(05:08) - Fantastic Mr. Fox
(07:09) - Our Rating
(09:40) - Perfect Movie?
(16:38) - Kristofferson & Truth
(20:14) - Humans vs. Animals
(24:20) - Uniqueness
(26:57) - Gifts & Purpose
(30:49) - The Wolf Scene
(35:18) - Wes’s Filmography
(37:16) - The Party Question
(40:20) - Coming Up & Take a break…

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Drew McKinney

Co-host and co-founder of Stole My Line - A Fireside Film Podcast.

Host

Grant Crenshaw

Co-host and co-founder of Stole My Line - A Fireside Film Podcast.

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Ethan Johnston:
[00:00:00 - 00:00:06] the opossum yes he's like a plumber he's like doing all the right things in life even later they
[00:00:06 - 00:00:14] he has like a titanium card and mr fox is like how do you qualify and he's like the most normal
[00:00:14 - 00:00:17] of all of them and he stands out some of the least

Drew:
[00:00:17 - 00:00:36] we've had many guests on this pod and by many I mean two but they have both been grants wife and
[00:00:36 - 00:00:43] brother who are also my friends there that we are we are friends yes 100 but this is Ethan Johnson
[00:00:44 - 00:00:48] who is my first official guest if we are reclaiming guests is that a thing we can claim guests okay
[00:00:49 - 00:00:55] I'll claim leo de caprio in the future that's fine oh yeah Ethan and I have been friends for a long

Grant:
[00:00:55 - 00:01:00] time true one of the longest probably low key besides our family the longest fan of the podcast
[00:01:00 - 00:01:05] I think that's true that's true yeah I think it's true you've been around since like day one

Ethan Johnston:
[00:01:05 - 00:01:09] basically I actually think I've been around since before day one okay because when you guys were
[00:01:09 - 00:01:15] like thinking of this idea drew talk about like if they ever did a phantasmus or fox episode which
[00:01:15 - 00:01:20] may be a little bit of a spoiler it's my favorite movie and he was like you should come on the pod

Grant:
[00:01:20 - 00:01:25] and now we're here and now we're here this is crazy actually that that conversation has now come
[00:01:25 - 00:01:30] to fruition today yeah welcome back to my line a fireside film podcast I'm Grant and I'm true
[00:01:30 - 00:01:36] and I'm Ethan yes let's go this is awesome so Ethan talk as close to the mic no he's okay

Drew:
[00:01:36 - 00:01:41] okay okay I got it you're the audio guy I'm not the other big fix it in post guys yeah we love that

Grant:
[00:01:41 - 00:01:45] but thanks for joining us hit that subscribe button if you're new to the channel true maybe
[00:01:45 - 00:01:51] you can be by the fire with us one day if you like what we do here are we gonna make that promise
[00:01:51 - 00:01:56] out there I said that's why I said maybe um no but we're talking about fantastic mr fox we are
[00:01:56 - 00:02:00] which if you clicked on this video you already know because of the thumbnail and yes it's your
[00:02:00 - 00:02:05] favorite movie so yes it is I guess like brief non spoilers for a movie that is almost 20 years old

Ethan Johnston:
[00:02:06 - 00:02:10] what did you think of the movie like why do you love this movie well if it's if it's okay before
[00:02:10 - 00:02:13] we get into that I go for it when we were thinking about or when I was thinking about coming on the
[00:02:13 - 00:02:19] pod I was like I really want to get these guys a blu-ray a fantastic mr fox oh no and then I was
[00:02:19 - 00:02:24] like okay does Grant have it so you have this thing on your letterboxed okay a list of all of your
[00:02:24 - 00:02:28] blu-ray movies that is true and I checked and you already own it I do this is crazy and so I
[00:02:28 - 00:02:33] texted Drew this is like crazy homework by the way I texted Drew that day and he bought it the

Drew:
[00:02:33 - 00:02:39] day I texted him and I see you a picture I didn't send me a picture of it that's crazy that is so

Ethan Johnston:
[00:02:39 - 00:02:44] crazy I pivoted and got got some blu-rays okay I'll be honest they're from Goodwill that's fine
[00:02:44 - 00:02:48] dude that's fine you look not like that is not criterion or anything like that no no thrifting

Grant:
[00:02:48 - 00:02:52] blu-rays is kind of the vibe it's kind of me I'm not gonna lie that's awesome that's so sick and I

Ethan Johnston:
[00:02:52 - 00:02:56] think both these movies are great too okay and so I I really hope neither of you have these
[00:02:56 - 00:03:00] movies I don't think you do I did some research I got them in my trusty cliff bar box here
[00:03:00 - 00:03:08] so this is that he got out of my car yeah this one is for Grant oh let's go you have it I don't

Grant:
[00:03:08 - 00:03:13] have the dark no way I don't have the dark crazy I will probably at some point get the 4k geology
[00:03:13 - 00:03:18] but like I'm not worried about that right now so this is sick this is awesome guys can I like nerd
[00:03:18 - 00:03:24] out for a quick please nerd um I've been really deep on the youtube 4k versus blu-ray comparisons
[00:03:24 - 00:03:31] and in certain shots the blu-ray of the dark night looks better than the 4k how does one quantify
[00:03:31 - 00:03:35] it there's just you just have to watch the videos brother this is this is more your thing so I will
[00:03:35 - 00:03:40] probably want to own both let's go so this is sick thank you so much yeah it's awesome this is wild

Drew:
[00:03:40 - 00:03:46] because a go back to Grant's birthday episode I have all the same resources you do and botched

Grant:
[00:03:46 - 00:03:53] it so bad I did own Barry Linden on 4k and you texted me a picture yes by the way I did text

Drew:
[00:03:53 - 00:03:58] him a picture and it's on the same list that Ethan has access to and I missed oh it's tragic but it's

Grant:
[00:03:58 - 00:04:04] okay real really quick for people who watched that episode I also did go return it with Drew on the
[00:04:04 - 00:04:08] phone by the way listen to me return this movie we were talking about others stole my line stuff but
[00:04:08 - 00:04:14] I returned it and I got high and low 4k criteria so it was an overall net win there I agree okay

Ethan Johnston:
[00:04:14 - 00:04:20] that's awesome and then the one for Drew is a disney movie oh the line game oh these are

Drew:
[00:04:20 - 00:04:25] really good good will finds dude dude I know this is awesome like I've not had this old disney

Ethan Johnston:
[00:04:25 - 00:04:30] signature collection this is tough and actually drew if you want to open that one it comes with I
[00:04:30 - 00:04:36] don't know how authentic any of that is but there's like frames from the lion king what you hold it
[00:04:36 - 00:04:41] up into the light you can like see them oh that's gotta be authentic that's real that is awesome

Drew:
[00:04:41 - 00:04:46] that's crazy yeah it's Simba on the rock well maybe it's not authentic actually yeah it's an

Grant:
[00:04:46 - 00:04:50] animated movie well no they would have projected it so I guess that's true back in the day

Drew:
[00:04:50 - 00:04:56] so it probably is wow in the firelight that's sick this is awesome thank you so much Ethan yeah

Grant:
[00:04:56 - 00:05:01] absolutely uh we have a custom store my line mug on the way in the mail yeah we're gonna
[00:05:01 - 00:05:04] show it to you no it's in the mail now we've already done it because we're thoughtful go
[00:05:05 - 00:05:11] host for this guest podcast um great okay fantastic mr fox though yes non thank you thank you for
[00:05:11 - 00:05:16] these yeah non spoiler why do you like fantastic mr fox wow fantastic mr fox is just like

Drew:
[00:05:17 - 00:05:23] beautifully created like technically I think it's one of the most perfect head movies I've

Grant:
[00:05:23 - 00:05:27] ever seen in my entire life you guys both watched it with behind the scenes recently well I didn't
[00:05:27 - 00:05:31] watch the behind the scenes okay so I haven't gone through all of them but I I watched this movie
[00:05:31 - 00:05:35] is like I really want to it looks so good yeah Drew what were you saying about they were like

Ethan Johnston:
[00:05:35 - 00:05:43] filming on location uh wait what was I saying about this I'm like for the voice acting at

Drew:
[00:05:43 - 00:05:48] least oh no yeah I mean the way they do the voice acting is like it was I mean a lot of times
[00:05:48 - 00:05:53] voice acting is done like a studio obviously right um but this was very on the ground it's like
[00:05:53 - 00:05:58] literally Wes Anderson and his sound crew and George Clooney in a field yeah like just running
[00:05:58 - 00:06:03] around on a four-wheeler when they're on like the bicycle side car type deal I'm like this is

Grant:
[00:06:03 - 00:06:08] so sick yes it's there's a chemistry that you get from my performances that like you just can't
[00:06:08 - 00:06:13] really get from animated movies and it's not like a knock on all animated movies right but
[00:06:13 - 00:06:17] the fact that they recorded some of these scenes and George Clooney is like actually like eating food
[00:06:17 - 00:06:23] or whatever yeah yeah that's cool that's sick I think it's so awesome yeah it's so Wes Anderson
[00:06:23 - 00:06:30] too yes yes 100 I think that this movie has aged really really well um like you said Drew it's
[00:06:30 - 00:06:36] technically one of the most impressive movies like for what it does um but also I would say that
[00:06:36 - 00:06:41] creatively it is just so unique like I don't think there's a single thing out there like Mr
[00:06:41 - 00:06:48] Fantastic Mr Fox that isn't island of dog or all dogs or whatever so I agree um I don't know but more

Ethan Johnston:
[00:06:48 - 00:06:52] thoughts yeah I also think like some of themes will tap on that in a little bit like there's
[00:06:52 - 00:06:59] so many different like themes that are like maybe not half-baked but like that are in there with
[00:06:59 - 00:07:02] enough where so many different people can look at this movie and take different things away

Grant:
[00:07:03 - 00:07:09] I agree 100% um I think the dialogue is really really great yep I think it is very witty this might
[00:07:09 - 00:07:16] be Wes's funniest movie I juries out on that but I don't know this the script is so quirky which
[00:07:16 - 00:07:22] is Wes Anderson but it's yeah all the jokes are so just quirky and weird in the best way so I love

Ethan Johnston:
[00:07:23 - 00:07:27] my I think like my favorite bit maybe this is a spoiler is the like what the cuss oh yeah what

Grant:
[00:07:27 - 00:07:32] the cuss is awesome so good um you kind of if you haven't seen this movie we do recommend it
[00:07:32 - 00:07:36] we'll probably just give our rating right now and then dive into what actually happens in this
[00:07:36 - 00:07:40] movie you want to say what our rating is Ethan no I think we're all gonna agree do you know our
[00:07:40 - 00:07:43] rating system can you listen yeah for sure like right now and actually I have a quarrel with you

Ethan Johnston:
[00:07:43 - 00:07:47] guys about the way that you do this because usually Drew is the one who does it and he lists it

Drew:
[00:07:47 - 00:07:52] from Blu-ray down oh do you think we should go up I think you should go up okay but that's

Ethan Johnston:
[00:07:52 - 00:07:57] you can be the first and not your old why don't you go from yes go for it okay I think
[00:07:57 - 00:08:01] and I don't know that you've ever put a movie in here maybe once it's like just never watch it
[00:08:02 - 00:08:08] yeah we have one movie we have one is I don't know what it is it's okay it was here's a hint I chucked
[00:08:08 - 00:08:14] a chair on this episode hmm has happened more than once it has happened two or three times okay I don't

Grant:
[00:08:14 - 00:08:18] know what the movie is it's okay it was rise the Skywalker horrible movie I hate it with a burning

Ethan Johnston:
[00:08:18 - 00:08:23] passion so that makes sense um okay yeah that's the first one okay the first one is never watch
[00:08:23 - 00:08:29] it ever yep the second is on your mom's Disney plus or on to me yeah like free streaming don't

Grant:
[00:08:29 - 00:08:33] spend money on your mom's Disney plus I kind of like more than to be should we rebrand it maybe

Ethan Johnston:
[00:08:33 - 00:08:38] we'll talk about yeah well that's a later discussion um okay thirdly is streaming yes
[00:08:38 - 00:08:42] which I think majority movies should fit into yeah I think that's where we've laid out maybe

Grant:
[00:08:42 - 00:08:46] are too high on certain movies at times but I feel like we slot a lot of like kind of the middle

Ethan Johnston:
[00:08:46 - 00:08:53] range movies in streaming yeah yeah that's okay fourth is in theaters okay in theaters sometimes
[00:08:53 - 00:09:00] you even say hi max yep and then the best one is blu-ray 4k the best edition you can get of this

Grant:
[00:09:00 - 00:09:06] correct for sure 100% on your test Ethan this is like pretty easy it's pretty easy and we should
[00:09:06 - 00:09:11] all unanimously agree that this is 4k yeah buy on blu-ray criterion collection yeah go do it right
[00:09:11 - 00:09:17] now um the sale with Barnes & Noble is probably over unfortunately yep at point of release but
[00:09:17 - 00:09:23] you know what I did do this past half off sale is I bought Fantastic Mr Fox I also bought Fantastic
[00:09:23 - 00:09:29] Mr Fox incredible great purchase it looks great so yeah but yeah I completely agree Ethan um let's
[00:09:29 - 00:09:34] dive into the movie itself which yeah it's only an hour and a half and there's a lot that happens
[00:09:34 - 00:09:38] but like probably can talk a little bit more about the themes than the plot if that makes sense
[00:09:38 - 00:09:43] but uh true I feel like we've been talking a lot over here I want to hear your thoughts on

Drew:
[00:09:43 - 00:09:49] Fantastic Mr Fox spoilers for Mr Fantastic Mr Fox the title is Fantastic Mr for the first steps

Grant:
[00:09:49 - 00:09:56] Fox these stupid titles spoilers for this movie um yeah I think the themes are great I think

Drew:
[00:09:58 - 00:10:02] I don't want to compare it to Pixar because this is so it feels very unpixar but this has the
[00:10:02 - 00:10:09] Pixar quality of adult themes yeah adult writing package in a in a childlike sense yes um
[00:10:10 - 00:10:15] which I think is great Ethan you have a take yes that you have brought to this podcast

Ethan Johnston:
[00:10:16 - 00:10:21] I would like you to present it okay all right this is fun I think okay and and maybe we can
[00:10:21 - 00:10:26] touch on this a little bit but I think Fantastic Mr Fox is basically a perfect movie okay this is

Grant:
[00:10:27 - 00:10:32] okay I'll I'll hear this one out so we have both given it I think four and a half stars on
[00:10:32 - 00:10:36] Letterbox I actually so I had it at four and a half stars and I watched it like years ago
[00:10:36 - 00:10:40] when I rewatched it I was like there's no reason I'm not going to give this five stars
[00:10:40 - 00:10:44] okay incredible slap to five star rating on that bad boy you have both given it I know I'm the
[00:10:44 - 00:10:49] odd one you're you're that's fine that's fine but I want to hear your argument because I I've only
[00:10:49 - 00:10:54] seen this movie twice yeah I need to watch like seven different youtube essays on what the themes of

Ethan Johnston:
[00:10:54 - 00:11:00] this movie are yeah so I feel like a lot of the time people really like to hit on that that idea
[00:11:00 - 00:11:05] that he's like a wild animal and he loses that part of himself yeah which is kind of when that
[00:11:05 - 00:11:09] that scene with the wolf towards the end yes kind of that idea of like he's kind of like
[00:11:10 - 00:11:17] reestablishing himself as a wild animal within the constraints or constructs of like humanity
[00:11:17 - 00:11:22] that he now lives in I don't love that it's not my favorite I'm like I get it it's cool
[00:11:22 - 00:11:26] Wes Anderson said it's the reason he made this film I think that there are a lot of other
[00:11:26 - 00:11:32] themes that stick out to me but firstly I would say that this movie is like perfect because at
[00:11:32 - 00:11:37] any age and every age I've watched I've seen this movie probably 20 times over the last 10 years
[00:11:38 - 00:11:42] and every time I watch it I connect with a different character yeah okay I connect with a
[00:11:42 - 00:11:48] different character for a different reason too so on my most recent watch Fantastic Mr Fox the
[00:11:48 - 00:11:52] main character right I really noticed that he was struggling with contentment yeah and maybe did
[00:11:52 - 00:11:58] you pick up on that oh yeah 100% 100% recently struggling with contentment and so that was

Grant:
[00:11:58 - 00:12:03] like so easy to connect with yeah 100% I think what hit me the most if I was just going to go
[00:12:03 - 00:12:10] across and list themes I think a lot of it was connectivity and like I think this movie is about
[00:12:10 - 00:12:16] connecting with a lot of things but like reconnecting with your wife um and like then there's the
[00:12:16 - 00:12:20] other thing which is like the other thing that stuck out to me was midlife crisis and I think
[00:12:20 - 00:12:25] that's maybe I'm projecting onto this movie I'm not in midlife crisis but like
[00:12:25 - 00:12:30] you could see how this podcast was a midlife crisis for us it was not I hope it's not midlife
[00:12:30 - 00:12:37] because we're young but um I think that his what he's going through is what I've seen other people
[00:12:37 - 00:12:42] go through yeah midlife crises of like I want to be my own person again and like I don't like this

Drew:
[00:12:42 - 00:12:47] rut I'm in yeah yeah yeah I think it's good I think what stuck out to me the most is the
[00:12:47 - 00:12:54] father son dynamic of yeah what is his name what's the son's ash ash yes ash and Christopherson
[00:12:55 - 00:13:01] um their dynamic I thought was great yep again it's very relatable for a kid to be like oh yeah
[00:13:01 - 00:13:08] I've been jealous of another kid before yeah and I've been bullied um but then just the dynamic of
[00:13:09 - 00:13:16] fantasy mr fox and ash is very relatable to in my life and like yeah it was just very
[00:13:18 - 00:13:24] his arc is so good fantasy mr fox in the sense of like youth you can instantly relate to his
[00:13:24 - 00:13:30] midlife crisis but also as a third party perspective be like you're being a selfish jerk here
[00:13:30 - 00:13:35] and not putting your wife and your kid before yourself but also you understand yeah and that's
[00:13:35 - 00:13:44] hard to do to make a someone's moral actions that are immoral sympathetic yes would completely agree

Ethan Johnston:
[00:13:44 - 00:13:50] and I think like the motives are really well articulated not not necessarily like being like
[00:13:50 - 00:13:55] very forward with it but like the actions of the characters like very specifically relate to
[00:13:55 - 00:13:59] them their motives so example drew you're talking about ash right and I think like his main
[00:13:59 - 00:14:04] motive is like he wants to know that his dad is proud of him yeah and so then his actions of
[00:14:04 - 00:14:12] being like jealous and like of of like the things that his dad can or decides or thinks are like good
[00:14:12 - 00:14:18] qualities he wants a robber mask right yeah yeah 100 he just wants to be an athlete like he wants to be

Grant:
[00:14:18 - 00:14:23] good at stuff and I mean I think everybody to a certain extent at least just watching this podcast
[00:14:23 - 00:14:28] probably has been in a situation growing up where they're like I am not as good as this person
[00:14:28 - 00:14:33] at this thing and I'm jealous of right like I felt that everybody's felt that so you kind of feel

Drew:
[00:14:33 - 00:14:37] for ash in that situation so and even like the subtle comparison of like when ash is like I want to
[00:14:37 - 00:14:43] be an athlete and then it pans to the trophy case or whatever yeah and oh and most of them basically
[00:14:43 - 00:14:47] was like you're not gonna be your dad your dad was too good yeah I'm like dang that's so that's
[00:14:47 - 00:14:53] so subtle but also like that's hard for a kid yeah for sure yeah and Grant I'm curious for you

Ethan Johnston:
[00:14:53 - 00:14:56] and I'm not projecting anything on your marriage but you're recently married I am recently my
[00:14:56 - 00:15:00] marriage is great I'll go ahead and say that before we talk but there's like an emotional
[00:15:00 - 00:15:06] scene between mr. Fox and mrs. Fox oh gosh where he says I think like verbatim something like
[00:15:06 - 00:15:11] I love you but I never should have married you gosh yeah that's a crazy scene and I think obviously

Grant:
[00:15:11 - 00:15:17] I'm not like relating to that scene but I do know a lot of people who like are in very tense
[00:15:17 - 00:15:24] marriages yeah I mean divorce rates are very high nowadays and so to I thought of a specific
[00:15:24 - 00:15:29] couple older couple in my life I'm like I think of these people when I see that scene I'm like
[00:15:29 - 00:15:34] it's just a hard thing to say and to hear but yeah and like it may be I don't think it's played
[00:15:34 - 00:15:37] for laughs but as a kid you're not going to pick up on that yeah for sure yeah it's the same thing
[00:15:37 - 00:15:41] with the Incredibles like you don't pick up on all the marital tension yeah you just think oh there's
[00:15:41 - 00:15:46] arguing but like no that's marital tension that's something that's a really real thing and so for
[00:15:46 - 00:15:51] her to say that verbatim is like gosh that's what some couples never really say to each other but
[00:15:51 - 00:15:55] they feel that and that just permeates throughout their relationship and they never heal from it
[00:15:55 - 00:16:00] and I actually I think it's like mature and I like that she expresses it yeah I think it is emotional
[00:16:00 - 00:16:04] maturity but then at the end like you kind of have the resolution they're like I'm expecting another
[00:16:04 - 00:16:09] kid which like you know if you're an adult you're like okay so they have fixed some issues here
[00:16:11 - 00:16:15] it's just to put it that way but like they have fixed some issues they have fixed some issues
[00:16:15 - 00:16:18] but like yeah they've reconnected right that ties into that theme that I mentioned like yeah
[00:16:18 - 00:16:23] reconnecting with your wife because she ends up understanding him and he ends up understanding

Drew:
[00:16:23 - 00:16:28] her in a better way by the end of the movie so oh a little leaf landed on me well you're the lucky one

Grant:
[00:16:28 - 00:16:32] oh thank you you are the chosen one what other themes or maybe stuff that we mentioned here do you
[00:16:32 - 00:16:40] want to dive into Ethan hmm if any yeah I mean I'm curious what you guys think about Christoffer

Ethan Johnston:
[00:16:40 - 00:16:44] sin because oh yeah he's like a huge part of this movie haven't touched I forgot he was such a big

Grant:
[00:16:44 - 00:16:50] part he's a big part of it but like he's not as open as the other characters maybe yeah
[00:16:50 - 00:16:56] they briefly mentioned what happened with his dad and like he's obviously going through stuff
[00:16:56 - 00:17:01] but he's not the main character of this movie even though he's really important yeah I don't know what

Drew:
[00:17:01 - 00:17:07] you think I think he's interesting I think he's a great flow for ash yep and that's probably
[00:17:07 - 00:17:13] all I picked up on this watch is like his his existence is to flush out the relationship between
[00:17:13 - 00:17:21] fantastic mr fox and ash and to have ash to give like the the story some leverage for ash to
[00:17:21 - 00:17:26] feel these things he feels yeah what about you why do you why do you bring it up yeah I think like

Ethan Johnston:
[00:17:26 - 00:17:32] definitely like what is supporting to the relationship between ash and his father right and
[00:17:32 - 00:17:36] it's like curious the like dynamic between him and his father where they're like like he does want
[00:17:36 - 00:17:39] to be with his father and he's good at a ton of things and so you kind of like almost like
[00:17:39 - 00:17:45] project maybe what ash is going through yeah onto christopherson's relationship with his father
[00:17:45 - 00:17:50] in like how did that pan out because christopherson really doesn't care right mr fox is proud of him

Grant:
[00:17:50 - 00:17:55] or yeah like he has no care in the world yeah he's just good at stuff and then he gets kind of

Ethan Johnston:
[00:17:55 - 00:18:03] thrown into situations because he's good at stuff I'm also crying yeah I'm so sorry but to kind of

Grant:
[00:18:03 - 00:18:10] like I don't know add on to that I think christopherson within the family that he's now kind of in
[00:18:10 - 00:18:17] is he wants to be accepted like he just wants kind of a home and then ash is mad at him like off the
[00:18:17 - 00:18:24] bat and then he's also kind of being used a little bit by mr fox like yeah like he gets dragged
[00:18:24 - 00:18:28] along on these heists that are going on he's like I guess I'm just good at stuff but like
[00:18:28 - 00:18:34] he's he doesn't really have a lot of like well no I was not gonna say the right thing there I think
[00:18:34 - 00:18:40] he's kind of being used for everything or like abused by ash whereas like yeah he just wants to be
[00:18:40 - 00:18:45] seen maybe as his own person it's my I don't know it's my thoughts on that my take yeah I agree

Drew:
[00:18:47 - 00:18:53] so your position currently Ethan is it is a perfect movie because it has I mean we've
[00:18:53 - 00:18:58] talked about probably five different themes diversity of themes diversity of themes that are all
[00:18:58 - 00:19:05] very applicable to lots of people and you can watch this movie multiple times pick up on different
[00:19:05 - 00:19:10] things and also the different like we've all literally all said something different yeah that
[00:19:10 - 00:19:16] hit us which is not something I can say for a lot of movies honestly I think on so my line too we

Grant:
[00:19:16 - 00:19:21] talk a lot and maybe we haven't talked about it as much recently with Star Wars and Spider-Man
[00:19:21 - 00:19:26] being like what we've talked about but we talked about a nugget of truth a lot and like
[00:19:26 - 00:19:30] like what can you take from this movie that's true about life or true about
[00:19:30 - 00:19:36] relationships or beliefs or whatever right this is like an eight count nugget of truth because
[00:19:36 - 00:19:41] there's like a lot going on here I agree but like in a good way I think that this
[00:19:41 - 00:19:44] movie has a lot of value that yeah I'll probably think about this movie from time to time for
[00:19:44 - 00:19:50] sure just on the day today and I will enjoy rewatching it when I have a son when I am deeper
[00:19:50 - 00:19:53] into my marriage you know there's going to be different phases that I'm really going to enjoy

Ethan Johnston:
[00:19:53 - 00:19:58] this movie yeah there are a few more things I want to touch on like first off like that that song like
[00:19:58 - 00:20:03] boggest months of being is just like bang it plays in my head all the time it's like I guess
[00:20:03 - 00:20:07] is this similar to the book at all I don't know if you've read it at all I haven't read it but
[00:20:07 - 00:20:10] like from like different things I've heard I think it's like pretty close in that I think
[00:20:10 - 00:20:16] that song is interpreted from the book but I think like that song is like really interesting
[00:20:16 - 00:20:21] because I think like the humans in this movie act more like the wild animals than the wild animals

Grant:
[00:20:21 - 00:20:28] I agree and I'm curious to know what you guys think Wes is saying I don't know I'm kind of torn
[00:20:28 - 00:20:36] because then I've been on like a studio Ghibli kick recently uh with like humans can be really
[00:20:36 - 00:20:41] harmful to the world into wildlife right right and so I think there's a little subtle message
[00:20:41 - 00:20:48] about that of like humans kind of use wildlife for their own gain or like don't coexist well
[00:20:48 - 00:20:54] yeah is maybe like a minor theme in this movie so that's kind of how I took it but I would like to
[00:20:54 - 00:20:58] talk more about kind of the aspect that you brought to it I don't know what you think uh

Drew:
[00:21:00 - 00:21:01] I mean I think there's an element of highlighting
[00:21:02 - 00:21:09] like human I think I in a very amp is anthropological is that the study of man
[00:21:10 - 00:21:15] well look at me wow you went to school I did go to some school some school yeah
[00:21:18 - 00:21:24] yeah it's very anthropological sure we're gonna go with that nice in the sense of like
[00:21:27 - 00:21:30] in the grand scope of humanity I think humanity definitely has a tendency to be

Grant:
[00:21:32 - 00:21:38] a bigger monster than we think we are yeah totally without the help of Jesus yeah I think yes yeah

Drew:
[00:21:38 - 00:21:43] I would agree with that um and I think it's just highlighting that in the sense of like
[00:21:44 - 00:21:51] even in just like the character design and what they eat and yeah like it's like it gives you
[00:21:51 - 00:21:57] kind of the synopsis of all three farmers and a they're all kind of scary and like a
[00:21:57 - 00:22:02] claymation stop motion type of way yeah but also like they're eating donuts with goose liver in them
[00:22:03 - 00:22:10] smoking smoking cigarettes and only drinking cider and like that like very just kind of like
[00:22:12 - 00:22:18] monstrous in a in a in a PG way but still in a in a way well in the movie like accents that too

Grant:
[00:22:18 - 00:22:23] through certain design aspects of like you know this is a beautiful movie but then when the
[00:22:23 - 00:22:30] humans take over or when you're in their houses and stuff the lighting is super right sterile like
[00:22:30 - 00:22:34] it's not beautiful anymore and even at the end of the movie when they raid the
[00:22:34 - 00:22:39] you know grocery market or whatever which is awesome yeah but they mentioned like this food
[00:22:39 - 00:22:43] is synthetic and not good for you yeah that's true it's like at times humans can destroy all
[00:22:43 - 00:22:48] that is beautiful and good about the world it's like I think the movie does intentionally

Ethan Johnston:
[00:22:48 - 00:22:52] kind of reference that I think so too I think so too so I think so too and and I don't know
[00:22:52 - 00:22:59] that I like love that because I think like I think that West Anderson is trying to trying to
[00:22:59 - 00:23:04] portray through the animals that humanity brings a ton of good to the world too yeah well I think

Grant:
[00:23:04 - 00:23:09] there's a duality maybe yeah like humans at the worst can definitely destroy the world for sure
[00:23:09 - 00:23:13] so okay why do you say good though like keep going on that thought what do I say that yeah

Ethan Johnston:
[00:23:13 - 00:23:21] like animals bring or that humans bring good to the world yes well maybe like within the the
[00:23:21 - 00:23:28] confines of this movie they open with like I'm I'm so good at these things but I'm having a child
[00:23:28 - 00:23:34] now everything needs to change an orient around this thing that we've created and like the
[00:23:34 - 00:23:38] the thing that you create is like I mean I believe like the most beautiful thing that anybody
[00:23:38 - 00:23:44] could create is like more life right yeah and so with it starting like that and then ending
[00:23:45 - 00:23:47] like that it's like you go through this journey of like
[00:23:50 - 00:23:55] what we've created oh this is good what we've created like can still be I mean I don't know
[00:23:55 - 00:23:58] maybe you can help me like kind of articulate what I'm trying to say here but like what we've
[00:23:58 - 00:24:03] created has its own challenges and etc etc and it might be you know like different like they
[00:24:03 - 00:24:09] all always do that for ash it's like different right but it's still beautiful yeah so much so
[00:24:09 - 00:24:14] that by the end of this movie we do it again well and like the journey that we've gone on

Grant:
[00:24:14 - 00:24:18] from the beginning of this movie to the end it's almost more beautiful by the end of it when it
[00:24:18 - 00:24:22] happens again because you know the journey these characters have been on like yeah yeah when they
[00:24:22 - 00:24:26] have another kid or like they're pregnant again like wow they've reconnected at this
[00:24:26 - 00:24:31] yeah like it's a beautiful journey to creating even more life so yeah one more theme that we

Ethan Johnston:
[00:24:31 - 00:24:36] didn't touch on that I picked up on recently was like just how many differences there are in
[00:24:36 - 00:24:42] like the and they like explicitly do that for example like ash everybody just says he's like
[00:24:43 - 00:24:48] then like ash's like love interest she has like a ton of spots like no other fox has spots
[00:24:48 - 00:24:53] and he's he basically tells her like hey you're like different or like christopherson is like
[00:24:53 - 00:24:57] he knows karate he knows like you know all these different things and he's different in that way
[00:24:57 - 00:25:02] and even fantastic mr fox who has all the things that most of the characters value in this yeah
[00:25:02 - 00:25:08] for his differences he is like pushed aside yes and I think that one thing that I love the most
[00:25:08 - 00:25:12] about this movie is that Wes Anderson is trying to communicate that our differences is part of what

Grant:
[00:25:12 - 00:25:18] gives us intrinsic value yeah yeah I mean we don't all want to be the same person right and so like
[00:25:18 - 00:25:24] I think the movie handles uniqueness and also fitting in it's almost like it says that fitting
[00:25:24 - 00:25:31] in is kind of a social construct at times like because none of the characters really fit in and
[00:25:31 - 00:25:35] there's not like a cool kids group in this movie yeah right like they're all different and like
[00:25:35 - 00:25:41] that's just the thing so I don't know I mean I think ash wants to fit in and be cool but then again
[00:25:41 - 00:25:47] like no one's really cool here yeah so yeah yeah that's an interesting concept for sure I agree

Ethan Johnston:
[00:25:47 - 00:25:51] the one person that is maybe the most like or the one character that's maybe like the most
[00:25:51 - 00:25:56] normal or fits into the like constraints of society is I think his name is Wiley the like
[00:25:57 - 00:26:04] the opossum yes he's like a plumber he's like doing all the right things in life even later
[00:26:04 - 00:26:11] they he has like a titanium card and mr fox is like how do you qualify and he's like the most
[00:26:11 - 00:26:18] normal of all of them and he stands out some of the least yeah and I think that's intentional too
[00:26:18 - 00:26:23] of like oh that's really interesting the more the more different you are actually the more you're
[00:26:23 - 00:26:28] gonna stand out like and pointing that out not like so that you become different but so that the
[00:26:28 - 00:26:33] things that you're trying to like stop yourself from being different and like you just are more

Grant:
[00:26:33 - 00:26:39] like willing to be yourself I don't know wow dang it I'm well I honestly might rewatch this movie
[00:26:39 - 00:26:44] within the I know I know like I talk about this makes me want to watch it again I think
[00:26:45 - 00:26:49] you're just so correct this is like a treasure treasure trove gosh of themes and
[00:26:50 - 00:26:54] truths and and everything yes it makes me want to rewatch it and focus on a different character

Drew:
[00:26:54 - 00:27:00] every single time but yeah I do think you're so right I think something else that's super interesting
[00:27:01 - 00:27:07] and I don't know how I feel about this coming out of my mouth but that's okay it's a common

Grant:
[00:27:07 - 00:27:15] thing that's I say that a lot yeah just say it and then dissect it like working within

Drew:
[00:27:15 - 00:27:24] your gifting I guess it's like Mr Fox is good at stealing yeah he's very good and he feels trapped
[00:27:24 - 00:27:28] in a rut in in his midlife crisis as he's writing a newspaper and he comes to this conclusion of like
[00:27:29 - 00:27:34] I'd rather do something I'm good at and I wanted this for me is West Anderson saying that
[00:27:35 - 00:27:38] stealing is immoral and like he should eat I think it is wrong because it causes so much
[00:27:38 - 00:27:46] consequence yes but also he is he's good at stealing and has giftings to steal yeah because
[00:27:46 - 00:27:51] he's a fox like it's literally in his nature yeah to do this yeah he's created to do this
[00:27:52 - 00:27:56] I don't know there's lots of interesting themes there I feel like well and I think too it's like

Grant:
[00:27:56 - 00:28:02] what context are you using your gift and like are you abandoning your wife and your son right
[00:28:02 - 00:28:06] yeah and and uprooting your whole family to do this thing you like I mean it's kind of similar
[00:28:06 - 00:28:11] maybe to Mr. Incredible a little bit in the Incredibles yeah Loki like not not that dissimilar
[00:28:11 - 00:28:16] but like are you uprooting your whole life or are you doing it in the correct context
[00:28:16 - 00:28:21] like with when people understand you if that I don't know really if there's something he's
[00:28:21 - 00:28:26] trying to say there or if that's just like a danger of the story yeah yeah yeah yeah but

Ethan Johnston:
[00:28:27 - 00:28:30] I don't know what you think yeah I'm just curious like I'm thinking about it like again
[00:28:30 - 00:28:35] like seeing this movie so many times I I really portray humanity onto the animals and so I'm
[00:28:35 - 00:28:40] curious to know like obviously in our society stealing wrong no no and I think objectively
[00:28:41 - 00:28:48] right but what are like what are the gifts that like we would have as humans that are like looked down
[00:28:48 - 00:28:55] upon even though like it's a gift that you have I mean I think one that if you're watching this

Grant:
[00:28:55 - 00:29:02] podcast you probably think a lot about this but at times creativity 100 can be can be frowned upon
[00:29:02 - 00:29:06] in different contexts I mean if you're Christopher Nolan ever is like oh he's so creative right he's
[00:29:06 - 00:29:11] an alter much I don't know if he's really an alter but whatever hey but like he's what movie are you

Drew:
[00:29:11 - 00:29:15] holding right no it's great I don't I'm not sure this is alter work whatever your mouth okay but

Grant:
[00:29:15 - 00:29:19] he makes really good stuff right and if you climb to the top you're going to be respected yeah
[00:29:19 - 00:29:24] but if you are a small at-home artist or you only make short films or you only paint paintings
[00:29:24 - 00:29:30] and you post on Instagram and get 20 likes right and you tell somebody oh I paint stuff
[00:29:30 - 00:29:34] yeah and you don't have over a thousand Instagram followers like right somebody's going to frown on
[00:29:34 - 00:29:39] you like or be like oh that's cool like you're not going to be as respected so it's like
[00:29:40 - 00:29:43] but that doesn't make your gift bad like right if anything you should keep doing it because you
[00:29:43 - 00:29:48] love it and because we are gifted with creativity as humans and that's just one example but that's

Ethan Johnston:
[00:29:48 - 00:29:53] what comes to my mind no that's absolutely what I thought of yeah as well maybe maybe to that
[00:29:53 - 00:29:58] like Wes like articulates that through mrs fox meryl Streep's character which she's killer
[00:29:58 - 00:30:03] character when if you hear um we haven't talked on the rat um oh yeah we got a lot of love on the
[00:30:03 - 00:30:07] phone love on the phone he like has this line in there where he's like talking to mr fox is like
[00:30:07 - 00:30:12] talking about his wife before like when she was like yes younger and and he's like you know she
[00:30:12 - 00:30:16] basically is a wild animal yeah she was like going around doing all this kind of stuff and
[00:30:16 - 00:30:20] and maybe in in in some sense of the word expressing her own creativity okay I don't
[00:30:20 - 00:30:25] I don't know if I would venture that far to say that in some sense that's wild but I'm
[00:30:25 - 00:30:31] getting there by saying that like that's redeemed in the movie through her being the best artist
[00:30:31 - 00:30:36] like she's always painting oh right oh my gosh and in the movie they talk about how she's like
[00:30:36 - 00:30:40] I think towards the end she does all the big murals and stuff like that is how they win
[00:30:40 - 00:30:46] is because of her creativity being expressed gosh that's so good oh my gosh dude I think

Drew:
[00:30:46 - 00:30:52] we're winning drew over bro I was won over 20 minutes ago I think this is one thing I do

Grant:
[00:30:52 - 00:30:56] want to talk about and kind of maybe redeem this aspect of the movie that I'm changing my letterbox
[00:30:56 - 00:31:03] okay do it right now live on the podcast I think something that stuck out to me and I read the
[00:31:03 - 00:31:09] wolf scene differently okay so I thought a lot about midlife crisis just like as a concept I
[00:31:09 - 00:31:15] think is really interesting it's obviously something that really does happen yeah and I think
[00:31:16 - 00:31:21] and maybe this is more my personal belief injected into my thoughts on this movie yeah
[00:31:21 - 00:31:28] like there is a wild adventure within man oh yeah humanity but also I would say within men
[00:31:28 - 00:31:34] that is something that's like I don't even know how to explain it besides like the feeling you get
[00:31:34 - 00:31:42] when you like run out into a sports game or like you know or you run out into battle and like I
[00:31:42 - 00:31:48] think anybody can have this feeling right yeah but I read that of like something that
[00:31:48 - 00:31:53] fantastic mr fox or mr fox is kind of afraid of but then he sees his wolf like it's actually
[00:31:53 - 00:32:00] not that bad to tap into that side of me and maybe this is more a an interpretation of what
[00:32:00 - 00:32:05] is put on screen but that's how I read it a little bit of yeah there's a wild side to man
[00:32:05 - 00:32:11] and it's okay to touch into that maybe that ties into the creativity and other things so thoughts

Drew:
[00:32:11 - 00:32:19] there a wild side to man or if you have it too I don't know I think I think that is true and maybe
[00:32:20 - 00:32:26] like I think what you said about mrs fox felicity is great like there's this kind of negative
[00:32:29 - 00:32:35] expression of her adventurous creative self yeah in the sense of she's running around with all

Grant:
[00:32:35 - 00:32:42] these guys yeah in the past or allegedly allegedly yes and then she finds the healthy outlet of

Drew:
[00:32:42 - 00:32:50] painting yes I think mr fox is on the same arc of that but I think he just clocks it at the
[00:32:50 - 00:32:54] he clocks it it's good and that he doesn't need to express his creative adventurous side with
[00:32:54 - 00:32:59] stealing yes at the very end of the movie when he sees the wolf he clocks he's like oh wait
[00:33:00 - 00:33:05] I have to go find my passionate thing that doesn't harm the people I love yeah

Ethan Johnston:
[00:33:07 - 00:33:10] yeah I think I read it maybe even a little bit differently than you guys do just like
[00:33:11 - 00:33:14] through watching it a bunch of times okay I'm a Christian I don't know if you guys knew that
[00:33:15 - 00:33:20] and I think that like it's so the Bible again what I believe says that we were all created
[00:33:20 - 00:33:24] in the image of God right so again I'm projecting humanity onto the to the animals which I think
[00:33:24 - 00:33:30] is what Wes is going for and that wolf is created and is exactly like nothing's changed
[00:33:30 - 00:33:35] from what we can see the wolf is exactly doing what it was like created to do and mr fox through
[00:33:35 - 00:33:42] their society has drifted from who like he was created to be and so I read it as like
[00:33:42 - 00:33:47] mr fox drifted from who he was created to be seeing creation the way that it was
[00:33:47 - 00:33:52] created to be and still is and there's like this thing of like I understand you I respect you
[00:33:52 - 00:33:59] know like that he threw up his fist or whatever of like I understand that like there is like a beauty
[00:33:59 - 00:34:04] in that of like a reverence almost gosh that's a really cool interpretation that is so are you

Drew:
[00:34:04 - 00:34:19] arguing that like the what's the word uh it's like when an animal acts like a human anthropomorphic
[00:34:19 - 00:34:27] anthropomorphic sure yeah uh is is the anthropomorphism I'm using all these words
[00:34:29 - 00:34:39] is that like you I think what I hear you're saying yeah is that Wes is saying that the animals
[00:34:40 - 00:34:45] who are putting on human characteristics yes but they were created to steal and created to
[00:34:46 - 00:34:53] or not steal but they were created to be an animal yes so as they put on humans and get this
[00:34:53 - 00:34:57] titanium car that is a negative that Wes is saying yes yes okay I think I agree with you yeah

Grant:
[00:34:58 - 00:35:03] and I think like that's the thing about this movie is this is our interpretation or what we take
[00:35:03 - 00:35:09] right yeah people who have different worldviews or I don't think Wes intended for this interpretation
[00:35:09 - 00:35:13] at all but that's what makes this super interesting is like yeah you can watch this movie and have
[00:35:13 - 00:35:19] a completely different interpretation and so yeah I don't know I I'm really fascinated by this movie

Drew:
[00:35:19 - 00:35:26] I have a question for you Ethan yes you and the past month have watched a lot of Wes Anderson
[00:35:26 - 00:35:33] yes true have you found anything else to be this thematically rich okay I'll be honest and

Grant:
[00:35:33 - 00:35:37] say that I haven't seen Grand Budapest that's the one that is I think that's his best one
[00:35:37 - 00:35:42] this that that one or this one is his best one so I guess it's so good I've seen

Ethan Johnston:
[00:35:43 - 00:35:48] over half of his feature length stuff and all of his short form stuff that I could find
[00:35:50 - 00:35:55] and I don't really think any of it comes close and again except for Grand Proofest which I
[00:35:55 - 00:35:59] haven't seen the only other one that I think actually does come up close is Isle of the Dogs

Grant:
[00:35:59 - 00:36:03] Isle of the Dogs is really good I didn't like it as much as this one me neither so

Ethan Johnston:
[00:36:03 - 00:36:07] but it is interesting that in this format he's able to communicate things that he struggles to

Grant:
[00:36:08 - 00:36:13] yeah in other that is interesting I do think Grand Budapest hits a a depth level that is
[00:36:13 - 00:36:18] comparable to this although I might rewatch it and think it's not as good as this one okay

Drew:
[00:36:18 - 00:36:21] I watched it recently and I thought I thought it was good and I thought it was great like
[00:36:21 - 00:36:26] but it was like a solid adventure movie Grand Budapest yeah maybe I just wasn't thinking

Grant:
[00:36:26 - 00:36:31] with my thematic brain on yeah I it's also been probably five or six years since I've
[00:36:31 - 00:36:35] seen it so I'm due for a rewatch but that was my favorite one when I went through a
[00:36:35 - 00:36:38] bunch of West Anderson yeah so yeah juries out but you might have to come back on the
[00:36:38 - 00:36:43] podcast and talk about Grand Budapest I don't know but I don't know is there anything else
[00:36:43 - 00:36:47] we want to talk about with with Fantastic Mr. Fox I mean it's an incredible movie I feel
[00:36:47 - 00:36:51] like everybody should watch this at least once if not five or six times I think five or six

Drew:
[00:36:51 - 00:36:56] times for sure I I've been convinced it's a perm movie okay let's go the debate has been
[00:36:56 - 00:37:02] settled that wasn't really the bay it was just like a conversation let's know your interpretation

Grant:
[00:37:02 - 00:37:06] if you're still watching this video of what Fantastic Mr. Fox is really saying because
[00:37:06 - 00:37:12] there's a lot that it is saying and it chooses to not fully go all the chips in on which I think
[00:37:12 - 00:37:17] is a wise decision from a filmmaking standpoint so let's know what you think there yeah um if
[00:37:17 - 00:37:22] y'all are ready for this final question you guys are at a party okay together together
[00:37:22 - 00:37:27] whoa you guys are both at a party together it is a chill birthday party you both got invited
[00:37:27 - 00:37:33] so the person who has their birthday gets more gift cards right so you like still mutual friend

Drew:
[00:37:33 - 00:37:37] vibe you're like it's like a friend from work okay that you're like not really close with

Grant:
[00:37:37 - 00:37:43] like oh yeah you can come to bring food and a gift card no one really says that but it's
[00:37:43 - 00:37:48] applied you're there Fantastic Mr. Fox is on the tv but in like it's a down the hall
[00:37:48 - 00:37:53] different room different room and everybody else is hanging out talking in the main room
[00:37:53 - 00:37:59] but you catch Fantastic Mr. Fox in this other room what are you guys doing together together

Drew:
[00:37:59 - 00:38:04] you're you're both at this party if we're both at a party where we don't know anyone else I'm 100%

Grant:
[00:38:04 - 00:38:07] saying Ethan we're going to watch fitness I think I set y'all up for that actually I maybe

Drew:
[00:38:07 - 00:38:12] should have given you more nuance like I would totally be anti-social and go hang out with you

Grant:
[00:38:12 - 00:38:16] and watch Fantastic Fox okay great we're gonna continue with the situation you're at this
[00:38:16 - 00:38:21] party you're in another room Fantastic Mr. Fox is on and drew out of the corner of your ear okay you
[00:38:21 - 00:38:28] hear the Sam Raimi Danny Elfin Spider-Man 2 theme playing in the main room and everybody else is
[00:38:28 - 00:38:34] watching Spider-Man oh what is the dynamic in this Fantastic Mr. Fox room you still have about 30
[00:38:34 - 00:38:37] minutes left on the movie and we both have to go together or we can go separate you could

Ethan Johnston:
[00:38:37 - 00:38:41] choose separate ways okay but you're like here together where are you going okay I'll
[00:38:41 - 00:38:45] tell you I'm gonna stay in Fantastic Mr. Fox because even if one person comes over
[00:38:46 - 00:38:51] the like thematic elements of this movie we could go so much further into depth and I might actually
[00:38:51 - 00:38:56] walk out with a friend yeah then if we went to Spider-Man and there was 30 people in there
[00:38:56 - 00:39:02] I might not really get to know anybody I would still go with you mainly because I value a really

Drew:
[00:39:02 - 00:39:11] lot okay yes but also I I I think the potential for depth from Fantastic Mr. Fox is greater in a
[00:39:11 - 00:39:15] social situation yeah the potential for depth of Spider-Man 2 even though Spider-Man 2 has a

Grant:
[00:39:15 - 00:39:21] lot of depth I think it's great it's not it's on the same level yeah well I'm glad that you
[00:39:21 - 00:39:25] all enjoyed that question because I just made that up as I went um anything else you want to
[00:39:25 - 00:39:31] talk about with this movie or anything else before we say what's coming up next we already
[00:39:31 - 00:39:34] ranked it yeah yeah we did yeah we're giving our ratings so right this is number one in our
[00:39:34 - 00:39:40] Wes Anderson rating that if we have any other moves is he making stuff still yeah what the
[00:39:40 - 00:39:46] what's the movie come out he's been like kind of in on a cold streak recently yeah reported well I

Ethan Johnston:
[00:39:46 - 00:39:53] guess his last movie was asteroid city nope Phoenician scheme correct I think wait maybe
[00:39:53 - 00:39:59] my city came out after I think it did I don't even know maybe I think it was Phoenician scheme
[00:39:59 - 00:40:04] I watched it in theaters like last year's or two you're right yeah gosh the right thing

Grant:
[00:40:04 - 00:40:08] for his dispatch that's what I was thinking yeah that one came out before asteroid city
[00:40:08 - 00:40:13] I don't remember the fact that I haven't seen any of those three movies I probably should get

Drew:
[00:40:13 - 00:40:18] into more Wes Anderson but everybody wants to work with him so fair enough yeah his cast are

Grant:
[00:40:18 - 00:40:25] always insane massive um well Ethan yeah you know anything we've got coming up next yeah for

Ethan Johnston:
[00:40:25 - 00:40:31] sure I mean there's a ton of stuff I think like dune and doomsday or I know doomsday all
[00:40:31 - 00:40:35] well but like those are two of the things that I'm like pretty excited for and especially doons
[00:40:35 - 00:40:39] today like that's gonna be sick excited to see how you guys are gonna cook that one up together
[00:40:39 - 00:40:45] we've talked about we have some ideas um actually I don't know much else this summer what else
[00:40:45 - 00:40:49] is coming out this summer it's a great question we have Ted lasso starting up yeah this week

Grant:
[00:40:49 - 00:40:55] actually out of left field um yeah actually but it should be good I'm excited to talk about that
[00:40:55 - 00:41:00] week in week out house the dragon is wrapping up next week and yep we've got a bunch of other
[00:41:00 - 00:41:05] tv shows we've got some artsy movies starting kind of oscar season a little bit where we'll have
[00:41:05 - 00:41:12] fjord and social reckoning oh yeah I play rocky all those movies are going to come out soon so

Drew:
[00:41:12 - 00:41:16] we're gonna kind of talk about all those and then we got clay face yep for you dc fans we
[00:41:16 - 00:41:23] also have lanterns yep so again anything pop culture related movies tv we got you we are your place

Grant:
[00:41:23 - 00:41:29] we're we're your hub of absolute truth for what your opinion should be yeah our opinion is the most
[00:41:29 - 00:41:37] valid yep um no one else's uh frik the escape pod guys whoa whoa whoa we don't need to start beef
[00:41:37 - 00:41:42] I'm starting beef no no I'm just kidding it'll become a running bit uh thank you guys for

Ethan Johnston:
[00:41:42 - 00:41:52] doing it to stole my line uh take a break and oh wait enjoy fl yes let's go