The Wobbly Middle

Do you feel a pull towards something new but aren’t sure what’s next?

So do we! Following a No. 1 ranking on Apple Podcasts GB Careers chart, hosts Susannah de Jager and Patsy Day—who leapt off their own corporate career ladders—return for Season 2 on Wednesday, April 23 with more inspiring conversations about bold career shifts, unexpected opportunities, and the skills we’ve been quietly building all along.

This season, they sit down with women who’ve made remarkable career moves, including:
  • An Emmy-winning reporter who stepped behind the camera to launch her own media company
  • A civil engineer who swapped steel beams for gem stones and built a thriving jewellery co
  • A lawyer who laid down the law to create a game-changing period care empire.
Whether you’re making a big leap, a strategic shift, or a slow-burn transition, The Wobbly Middle is here to help you recognise the value of what you already know and use it to build what comes next.

This season also brings bonus content—extra interview snippets, behind-the-scenes moments, and practical career advice to help you take your own next step.

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ABOUT THE HOSTS:

Susannah de Jager is consulting to start-ups and occasionally advising on scale-up capital having left her role as CEO of a boutique asset manager. She is also host of Oxford+, a podcast exploring the myths and truths of the Oxford investing landscape.

Patsy Day is an intellectual property lawyer on a break. She has worked on all things IP from anti-counterfeiting to publishing and from London to Ho Chi Minh City and back again. Patsy lives in Oxford and is producing the podcast SafeHouse Amsterdam (out 2025). 

What is The Wobbly Middle?

Patsy quit her job. Susannah quit the city. Now they’re on a quest to find the path through the wobbly middle of their careers. This podcast is for every woman who’s asking “What now?”.

Hosted by Susannah de Jager and Patsy Day, The Wobbly Middle features interviews with famed city superwomen, dazzling entrepreneurs and revolutionary midwives and doctors who reveal what they’ve learnt through their own wobbly middle experiences.

[00:00:00] Susannah de Jager: Hi, Pats!

[00:00:06] Patsy Day: Hi, Susannah!

[00:00:07] Susannah de Jager: Are you ready to share the news?

[00:00:09] Patsy Day: Yes, happy days. The Wobbly Middle is back for Season Two.

[00:00:14] Susannah de Jager: We are here for another series of compelling conversations with women navigating their big career changes in midlife.

[00:00:20] Patsy Day: We have some sensational woman on the show, including an award-winning reporter who stepped behind the camera to launch her own media company, a civil engineer who swapped steel beams for sapphires and a lawyer who's laid down the law to build a period care empire.

[00:00:38] Susannah de Jager: And this season, we're also bringing you bonus content, extra interview snippets, behind the scenes moments, and practical tips to help you on your own career journey.

[00:00:47] Patsy Day: The Wobbly Middle Season Two launches Wednesday, April 23rd. Follow us wherever you get your podcast, so you never miss an episode.