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S6 EP23 | The time has come for the Studios to flash a green-light, as T.C. and Jim read all your comments and announce the Season 6 Feature!
Two screenwriters attempt to recreate, reimagine, or flat out fix, existing film franchises when 'the studio' demands...MORE FILMS! It's an exercise in creative thinking where they will challenge themselves to conceptualize, pitch, and craft a film based on the stipulations of a hypothetical Hollywood overlord. | Sixfive Media
Hello and welcome to the studio demands it an exercise in creative thinking where we conceptualize, pitch and craft films or series based on the demands from one of you listeners acting as a hypothetical Hollywood overlord. Overlord. As professional screenwriters ourselves and massive cinephiles, we talk movies all the time.
Jim:All the time.
T.C.:And we'd like to believe that we could meet any demand thrown at us. We are your screenwriters. I am TC DeWitt, and joining me as always is Jim, the tally man Berzelik. Come, mister tally man. Tally me banana.
Jim:Daylight coming.
T.C.:Yeah. Oh, I am home, so I'm fine. But you might wanna go home. Tally it up, Jim. Have you tallied up the votes?
Jim:Yeah. I did.
T.C.:Very good. With a name like that, one would expect to do so. Mhmm. I offered to tally it up. No.
T.C.:You
Jim:are not the tally man.
T.C.:You are.
Jim:I am the tally man.
T.C.:Is the tally man from, like, lore or folklore or something?
Jim:I if it is, I don't know.
T.C.:No. I I thought maybe you would know and and it would be come off the top of your head and go, oh, yes. He's a a voodoo king.
Jim:No. It is folklore. It is my name. Oh,
T.C.:I assumed you were named after the tally man.
Jim:No. The tally man is named after me.
T.C.:Oh, woah. So this is either you are much more ancient than I realize, and folklore has been written about you. And
Jim:No. It's it's just it's an old timey job.
T.C.:It's just an old time like, someone who tallies Mhmm. Like, does counting. Were they pirates? No. Oh, okay.
T.C.:Well, alright. That's all we need to know about your middle name.
Jim:And they're also a thing in Warhammer 40 k.
T.C.:Alright. Welcome to the penultimate episode of season six. Can you believe it, Jim?
Jim:And it's a Batman villain.
T.C.:Oh, there you go. Can you believe it, Jim? We got another season in the books. Six seasons, Jim. No.
T.C.:Yes. Over a 130 episodes at this point. We
Jim:have we
T.C.:have pitched approximately 200 movies. That's a that's a big approximation. Probably about a 150. But, yeah, we did it. Season six.
T.C.:Like, we like, thinking about this year. So I'm just gonna rattle off our season. We did Star Trek, Steamboat, Killy Screamboat, Killy, Captain Carter, Wyatt Earp, Spider Man, Daredevil, Rumplestiltskin, a Jason Statham double feature, one of them being Dead Rising, the other one being Popeye.
Jim:Popeye.
T.C.:The acolytes, that's weird. I have stronger memory of doing Jason Statham than the acolyte. We did the after statement.
Jim:Yeah. Same.
T.C.:Thunderbolts, triple feature. James Bond, Home Improvement, Family Matters, Saved by the Bell, Megan versus the Terminator, Vogue one, Superman three, a spoof movie, a body swap movie, evil dead movies, TMNT, national treasure three, season of the witch remake, wonderland with the wicked treatment, a Zelda movie where we didn't do the demand, and we can comment on it if you want. And now here we are ready we are ready to hear what's been greenlit by our listeners for the fully produced feature length table read finale. But before we get all to that, what do you think about the season? Like, this this season felt like a breeze, and also this year has been so damn long.
T.C.:It it fires at the beginning of the year.
Jim:That was this year?
T.C.:In our in our first episode of this season, we hear a helicopter go by that was taking water as the fires were just going off.
Jim:So the year started with fire and it ends with water.
T.C.:It's raining right now. Yeah. Yeah. The the threat of rain was very over sold to me. Everyone was like batten down the hatches.
Jim:Well, they said they said it's gonna rain all weekend. That's why they're saying it. Apparently, a couple places have even been evacuated in preparation for it. Mhmm. We'll see.
Jim:We'll see. We'll see. It's just Friday.
T.C.:Yeah. But what do you what do you what do you think of the season overall here?
Jim:It was good. It was a good season.
T.C.:The the said we did meet the someone commented. I can't remember who
Jim:said that. Wall score.
T.C.:Wallscore. Thank you, Wall Score over on the Reddit or the Discord.
Jim:Discord. Yeah. Nobody talks on the Reddit. That's my fault.
T.C.:What did Wall Score have to say about
Jim:Oh, he something. In in summary, it was a good episode. And and we told a good story, but we technically failed the demand because Ganon was one of the characters was and that's a main character from Zelda.
T.C.:They asked us to avoid that.
Jim:The whole point to the demand was to not do not utilize any of the the main cast.
T.C.:Yeah. Yeah. I once it was pointed, I was like, oh my god. I don't did we realize it in the heat of the moment?
Jim:No. It's because we I I we did it later. We did that, and we were they were the antagonists or like, oh, they're not the they're not the hero of the story. We're not following them. But that technically, yeah, is is a a failure of meeting the demand.
T.C.:Damn. The demand. Yeah. But I yeah. We I was still happy with what we came up with.
T.C.:But, right, in hindsight, looking back, even though Ganon doesn't become Ganon till the very end and that's who they fight, we did make
Jim:a mistake. It's still because it is Ganon. Yeah. If it it had been not Ganon, if it was someone else
T.C.:who Wars from Super Mario Brothers two.
Jim:It just it just could have been someone, like one of the one of them the the characters goes bad on their quest. Mhmm. Even if it has shades of Ganon. Right? The the the evil to come.
T.C.:Right. But then we get into, like, habit territory and those habit movies are so bleh. Like, we can't
Jim:They're do not bleh because they had the necromancer who well, who ultimately was Saruman or Sauron. Sorry. They're they're bad for bunch of other reasons.
T.C.:A litany of reasons. Something that was pointed out to us in one of the comment sections was how many horror movies we did this year. Yeah. It was appreciation an for how much horror, and I don't think that was by any sort of design. It just was happenstance.
T.C.:We did nine horror movies this year.
Jim:Oh, wow. I thought it was I thought it was only only, like, six.
T.C.:Yeah. Of our 22 episodes, we did nine horror movies. And that's and I'm kinda might be nudging horror just slightly in so much as let's see. Let's steam Screambo Killy, Wyderp was a horror movie. Jason Statham had Dead Rising.
T.C.:Accolades. Thunderbolts changed, but however is it. I I can't sci fi horror, at least in the psychological that we got to, both Family Matters and Saved by the Bell leaned into like, Saved by the Bell for sure leaned into, like, a
Jim:Yeah. Saved by the Bell.
T.C.:Twilight Zone. Yeah. Like, this monster is controlling people. And then Family Matters was just, like, Carl's being tortured by Rick Sanchez, Steve Urkel.
Jim:Sure.
T.C.:But I counted that. We did a bunch of Evil Dead movies, Megan versus Terminator.
Jim:Mhmm.
T.C.:We did the the spoof movie was to do a horror spoof movie. Mhmm. There's a Halloween season, The Witch. Yeah. So we we had a lot of horror this year.
T.C.:Then We did. Typically, I try to give you a chance to play in your favorite areas, like, which I try to see if there's a way for us to do a a cowboy movie every season and or western. And I I always default to you as more knowledgeable of horror as a friend as a genre. So the fact that we got to do so many this year, and it didn't even strike me.
Jim:No. Yeah.
T.C.:Right? Because because those who know the lore of the the long lore of me as a podcaster, you say you don't like a thing too many times, people assume you hate it. And I I said I hate oh, I don't like horror. I don't like horror so much that people
Jim:Alright. Just to be pedantic, I have way more evidence of you. It's not just that you say you don't like horror in a reviewer capacity. Mhmm. Like when it comes up when when when talking about favorite movies, when talking about things they like in movies, things like that.
Jim:Like you just when talking, you're like, you don't like jump scares. You don't like gore. You don't like the the those elements of horror movies, and you didn't. It's a and that's the thing. It's a it's a past tense thing.
Jim:Whether that whether I did it or whether you did it on your own because you did write a Friday the thirteenth.
T.C.:I did. Yeah. Number 13. Available now.
Jim:You've you've grown accustomed to the genre.
T.C.:And certainly Demon Detective, which we did not plug nearly enough.
Jim:No. Yeah.
T.C.:Like, barely at all, which is a is a shame on both of us that we we have a full Hey.
Jim:We made a movie.
T.C.:We have a fully produced feature film starring legend Doug Jones and Adrian Barbeau, and it's on Apple and Amazon, and we did not plug it Yeah. Hardly at all. Yeah. And that's a that's a shame on our part. But to to the point of my
Jim:For whatever reason, it's it's stupid. But in my in my head, subconsciously, wasn't a conscious thought. I it was is because I always imagined all of our projects being compartmentalized from each other.
T.C.:Yeah. I think I did the same thing.
Jim:And that that might be a bad way to think about it.
T.C.:Right. Right. I but I I do similarly. Yeah. I've created partitions.
T.C.:But, yeah, my my evolution into respecting and enjoying the genre that I already liked anyway. It's like people say, oh, hate country music. Oh, you hate Dolly Parton? You hate the song nine to five?
Jim:Some people do. Yeah.
T.C.:Well, they're wrong. But it's a like jump scares. The thing that became particular about jump scares is, like, earn them. Don't just go, like, that's I'm not scared. You startled me.
Jim:Of course. That counts. That's a scare. Yeah. That's a scare.
T.C.:Right? So yeah. It it it what a fun thing to look at how many of those movies we we played with this year in in amongst the other things. But, yeah, I don't know. I it I'm really am happy with how this season turned out.
T.C.:So I we've got some great stuff to choose from, and we'll we'll get to those momentarily here. But, yeah, also, just good I can't believe we've come this far, and we're still going. Like, I I don't feel exhausted by this show. I don't think like No. I did another episode.
T.C.:I'm always like and we we we've created a schedule, and David has allowed us to do so where we can take breathers, and we don't have to, like, stick to this workhorse schedule. We, like, we we create a buffer and whatnot. Yeah. And there's we still have hundreds of demands to go through. Mhmm.
T.C.:If people stopped sending us demands, we could still do this for another five years. Wow. Fuck. Dang. I don't know if those episodes would be good, but we'll see.
T.C.:You know? Who knows? But keep them coming, folks. Absolutely keeping and since since we're talking about that, Jim, our amazing listeners, have given us demands from studios literally all over the world. And you listening now, if you decided that this was the first episode you're gonna let us do, congratulations.
T.C.:You can submit your demands for the next season and send us any demand you'd like, and we will meet them on the spot. We will read them live. We will we will just do our best. And when we reach the end of the episode, if we've done our jobs, we'll pitch the full script and story, meeting, or even exceeding those demands. And we have chosen six of our pitches and offer them up to all of you and the worldwide studios Mhmm.
T.C.:To green light one of these movies for our finale, following suit with Justice League nineteen ninety five, Mystery Inc. And the Threshold of Chaos, Spider Man Amazing Spider Man three, and Blade blah blah blah
Jim:What do we sub that?
T.C.:Blade Heart of Darkness. Yep. And now our sixth season in our in our fifth fully produced finale. So for those who might need a reminder, Jim
Jim:Yes. Remind me.
T.C.:Our six nominees for this year, we have alien intercepts, which came from season five. Corporal Hicks has been believed to have died in his escape pod and when it crash landed on Fiorina 161 in Alien three, but his story did not end the way we've been told. After fleeing LV 426 and before the events of Alien three, the escape pods protect protecting Ripley, Newt, and Hicks are snatched by scavengers. And when Hicks is inadvertently awakened, he discovers these pirates have more than one problem, a xenomorph and two replicants from the Tyrell Corporation. And this film sets right what alien three did wrong.
T.C.:It's dark horror action of alien and aliens alien Romulus with that added bit of danger of Blade Runner replicants.
Jim:Mhmm.
T.C.:Alright.
Jim:And the reason we added this was because last season, it was a write in for the finale, and it wasn't just like one or two people. It had a really strong write in. So Yeah. We decided to make that an official entry.
T.C.:Alien frontier had the writing.
Jim:Oh, it was? Yeah. Oh, I was wrong? Oh. Well, you're you're gonna go back here to scrub all this anyway.
T.C.:Droids, a Star Wars story also from season five. Palpatine and Darth Vader are dead. The Empire has fallen and the New Republic is refitting and salvaging as much imperial materials as it can, including all droids. When a pair of protocol droids realize that having their memories wiped will mean forgetting everything they are, they flee. As they gather other droids looking to keep themselves intact, this ragtag group becomes the largest targets in the galaxy.
T.C.:But their rebellious nature isn't why they are soon hunted and chased by imps, rebbes, bounty hunters, and more. One of the droids' databanks holds the secret location of the last imperial cloning facility. This film gives us the lovable group of droids trying to exist in a galaxy that has always tossed them aside while the fandom has always loved them as much as any living, breathing character in Star Wars. Also from Seas Fight. Yeah.
T.C.:Bringing that over. Yeah. Megan versus the Terminator. Now, originally, it was just Megan versus, and then we got to pick it. Terminator was
Jim:just the
T.C.:obvious choice. In a future where Skynet fears a girl who hasn't grown up yet, a Terminator is sent back to eliminate young Katie before she becomes a rebel leader. But when the killing Killer Bot's mission threatens her child, Megan, repaired, reprogrammed, and more unhinged than ever, hacks the timeline to fight back. In a brutal war of steel, code, and surrogate motherhood, the world's deadliest doll takes on the original killing machine and the only one metal monster and only one metal monster can survive. This film contains like, continues the action and bloody, bitchy tone and style of Megan movies.
Jim:Yep.
T.C.:Screamboat Killy. In 1928, a young woman boards a steamboat heading south down the Mississippi River dreaming of reaching New Orleans and starting her music career in the Big Easy. But as the boat glides down the mighty mist, blood begins to spill and a murderer stalks the crew and passengers. This isn't a schlocky b movie. This is a period slasher in the vein of sinners, ravenous, and sleepy hollow, which really referencing sinners really tipped people in the favor of Oh.
T.C.:Of
Jim:yeah. Mean, that's great. Right? Like anything to get people in in into the into the theaters. But I'm realizing those three examples, I know how how they they they all relate, but all three of those are monster movies.
T.C.:True.
Jim:Screambo Akili isn't a monster. It's a slasher.
T.C.:It's a vampire movie, a Wendigo movie, and a headless horseman movie. Yeah. And Screambo Akili is just murder murder
Jim:man. Yep.
T.C.:Or woman. Stop
Jim:singing that song. Star
T.C.:Trek legacies. When captain Kirk and the Enterprise pursue a rogue Klingon, they are flung one hundred years forward to the twenty fourth century. Determined to return home newborn to his newborn son, Kirk will stop at nothing, breaking every law of time and space, and only one captain and crew can stop him. Captain Jean Luc Picard and the Enterprise d. The film is a loving homage to Trek and ends the Kelvinverse and Chris Pine's timeline time as the famed James T.
T.C.:Kirk while offering up a version of the TNG Kelvinverse. There you go. Thunderbolts, a Marvel special presentation. Three specials for three infamous heroes in three decades. Set long before the events of Thunderbolts, this Marvel special presentation gives us the Red Guardians epic showdown with Steve Rogers, Captain America, Yelena Belova as a bodyguard for Justin Hammer as he negotiates with Ulysses Klaw for stolen vibranium, and the Winter Soldier becoming the target of the relentless spirit of vengeance, the Ghost Rider.
T.C.:Designed like the previous Marvel special presentations, werewolf by night, and the Guardians Galaxy Christmas special. Alright. So those were the six that we picked, and that was not easy because we No.
Jim:Yeah. Could have
T.C.:picked 10. Like, we we typically get about 10 and then try to chip it down. Mhmm. And it's just it spreads the votes too thin
Jim:Mhmm.
T.C.:If we have, like, 10 offerings.
Jim:Yeah.
T.C.:So we we are aware of some of the write ins, and we're gonna go through the comments right now as we as we go through all this. But, so I people kept asking me, like people kept asking, like, well, which one do want to win? I'm like, we picked these six. Yeah. We want all we want
Jim:One one of these.
T.C.:One of these. These are the six. Not to be fair. I did. We did vote.
T.C.:So, like, we did pick our our of the six, we finally had to pick one. We didn't have to.
Jim:But we did. But we did.
T.C.:Or two or three. You picked two.
Jim:I picked six.
T.C.:I picked six. No. We picked these six. But this is a fun spread of of options here. There's there's not you know, there's just the one superhero movie, I think, is is pretty I I would do nothing but write superhero movies.
Jim:But, yeah,
T.C.:it's it's it's good to spread the taste out here. And just in conversations with people, I don't know how many conversations you had with people talking about the finale, but it was always surprising to me when I chatted with people which ones jumped out. I'd like, oh, here are the six. Oh, this Screambo Killy. Really?
T.C.:That's that's the one that jumped out at you, like and having a a nice conversation with someone who hadn't listened to the episode but liked the this elevator pitch.
Jim:Sure.
T.C.:Like, oh, yeah. Yeah. It's a fun idea. It's a fun idea. Right?
T.C.:Because I thought that was the dark horse choice.
Jim:Sure. So same.
T.C.:Because it was
Jim:because because I I thought it was gonna be, right, screamboat killie is very clearly a play on steamboat Willie. Mhmm. Mhmm. And so I thought everyone was gonna kinda roll their eyes at, oh, you're gonna do a killer Mickey Mouse. Mhmm.
Jim:So that I guess that's just that's how strong of a the elevator pitch for Screamboat Killie is. Or were people just reacting that way to the title?
T.C.:Maybe. Well, yeah, I I'm I'm excited. I've been excited, like, getting getting to this finale. Like, just all six of these options, I'm already thinking about the score of each of them. Look at the sound design.
T.C.:They all offer up some really fun stuff.
Jim:Mhmm.
T.C.:So for those who aren't familiar, when we do the full table read of this, then we produce it with the score and the sound design. And I do all that sound design, and it's just it's a great I I have such a fun time doing it.
Jim:A lot of those things are also for a little a little bit of how we chose the six. It's not just which ones are our favorites, but we also think about stuff like how is it how is it going to present as as a table read? Is that read as an audio file? Because some some of them are like, oh, that's really interesting, but it won't be it won't be interesting to listen to. It would be amazing to to see.
Jim:Mhmm. With Yeah. We We also look at size of casts.
T.C.:And and what would appeal to people passing by? Because when we do these votes, I go into a few communities. We obviously throw it to our subscribers. We get a lot of re like, people have been voting since season one or season two. So we have it's it's the passing person who's just gonna go, oh, a Blade movie?
T.C.:Hell, yeah. I'll take a I'll take a look at that. Yeah. So it this was a tougher year for for narrowing it down. We we haven't talked about quite a few here.
T.C.:And and when we get to the comments here, we will we can converse about that. But let's let's let's go to the very first comment of comments, which
Jim:is Let's do it.
T.C.:Straight from David Geisler himself. David says, I really wanted to go droids because I desperately want you guys to write a Star Wars. We do too, David, especially after we missed out on what would have been an amazing Star Wars episode 10 script from you. Thank you. And I'm still so sad that we probably really won't ever get an in real life Kelvin timeline part four, so I vote for Star Trek legacies.
T.C.:Thank you, David. Obviously, many thanks to David for giving us like, this shows exist because of David. So alright. So moving on. Chris Wallscore says, I think it's about time you do a Star Trek movie since Star Trek is what birthed this podcast.
T.C.:Wait. I just finished the Wicked episode. I kinda want that now. I I'm really happy with how the Wicked episode Yeah. Like, people responded to that.
T.C.:Oh, cool.
Jim:Good. Cool.
T.C.:The the poster design hooked some people when I threw it up on on TikTok and whatnot. Oh, actually, you know what? Sorry. You gotta vamp now. Talk about that.
Jim:Talk talk about me vamping? Yeah. Oh. So I was I don't have comments to go.
T.C.:Well, but well, heart snare. If we can talk about talk
Jim:about that. I'll just I'll make random sounds the whole time. Everyone loves the sounds I make. Right? Of all the sounds that I make, what is your favorite?
T.C.:Boy, you're you're crushing it right now. Wowie. Wow. Wow. Wow.
T.C.:Oh my god. That's my favorite question. That's my favorite sound. My favorite sound is when you laugh so hard, like, that that you have to, like, get away from the microphone. When I showed you the and I know I'm behind on them, but time management is difficult with the TikTok for fantastic four.
T.C.:You Uh-huh. Like, I've you laughed so hard, and it made me so happy.
Jim:Now I wanna watch it again.
T.C.:Just the the the sheer that's the best sound that Jim makes, ladies and gentlemen.
Jim:Well well, thank you. I sure I sure like laughing. What so so how are you doing today out there?
T.C.:Okay. Okay. I I there were a couple of comments that I forgot to grab, so I just wanted to get to them. So this comes from Kirk Mayhew. I still believe that Fincher was forced into a raw deal.
T.C.:So many obstacles in studio interference, ultimately, in the alien universe, what can humans look forward to? The bleakest difficulties is staying alive amongst the Xenomorph threat. I vote alien intercept. Thank you, Kirk Mayhew. And then someone commented below that and said, imagine a Fincher alien movie made now.
T.C.:Yeah. If David Fincher could
Jim:Oh gosh.
T.C.:Could make an alien movie now, it'd be like if Neil Blancant forgot to make one a decade ago. Mhmm. Not that they'd be the same style of filmmaking, but just that.
Jim:It would be the same movie.
T.C.:Let's see. From the bear. I hate the Kelvinverse, but that would be a kick ass movie, especially if the Kelvinverse were refitted to be more like the TOS movies. The Apple Store Bridge and Miller Brewing Engineering took me out every time. That's right.
T.C.:The bridge in the JJ Abrams movies is a brewery.
Jim:The the bridge was?
T.C.:No. Sorry. Engineer engineer. Yeah. We got from Tinzito, Thunderbolts.
T.C.:Stola Star, these all look mid. And then to which I replied to Stola, you know, lucky for you, the screenplays of these are outstanding. Which one of them would you wanna see? Oh, get that mosquito. Ow.
T.C.:I hope you killed it because you hit me. Jim struck me. Was it a mosquito?
Jim:It was a mosquito.
T.C.:Kill that mosquito. Almost. Thank you, Stola Star, for your trolling.
Jim:Damn it.
T.C.:Okay. Okay. Moving on. Eli McKeag, I picked Star Trek Legacies mainly because I'd like to see the combination. I think Star Trek Legacies would be neat to see, and I'm just curious what the Kelvin timeline of the next generation crew would be like.
T.C.:But of all this season pitches, I really would have loved to have seen Disney's Rumpelstiltskin. And and you know what, Eli? It were so Jim. Sorry. We have a We got a mosquito.
T.C.:We got a mosquito in the in the studio. Kill it. Jim. Get it, Jim.
Jim:I'm not gonna
T.C.:stop the mirror. Don't hit the mirror. Jim Jim, get that mosquito. Oh. Alright.
T.C.:It'll come back.
Jim:The podcast mosquito.
T.C.:Which is the sound of their wings flapping. Yeah. That's the noise there.
Jim:Okay. You didn't know that?
T.C.:I knew that.
Jim:That's why you said it.
T.C.:That's why I said it.
Jim:Why wouldn't I know that? What other sound would it be?
T.C.:Eli wanted Rumpelstiltskin, Jim.
Jim:Eli wanted Rumpelstiltskin, Jim.
T.C.:Eli, we were so close to putting Rumpelstiltskin on. I I
Jim:We did.
T.C.:The com it was in the in our 10 when we had narrowed it down. And, I I still think there's
Jim:It would be a lot of fun.
T.C.:Yeah.
Jim:I think we didn't do it because it is the the the the odd words. I have no words tonight, and tonight I need the words. It was daunting. Yeah. Thinking about what we're gonna have to do.
Jim:Our ambition Exceed. Withered Yeah. In in in sight of that mountain. It Having to having to write a bunch of songs Mhmm. And then having having to write a morality play, like like a like a a moral tale where the character basically uses confidence and lying in a good way to overcome another con man.
Jim:It sounds amazing.
T.C.:I think given And
Jim:I and I think we could do it Yep. Just not on the timeline that we have available.
T.C.:Yeah. To to truly do it the justice we feel it deserves. It's it's not that we don't think we could handle writing the Morality Play or whatnot. It's it is a matter of, okay. We could do the script.
T.C.:It's the book, the music that would be the most difficult thing here. And Jim and I both have produced and written and directed musicals.
Jim:And Yeah. I oh, I forget about that get. Yeah. I forget about that sometimes.
T.C.:Jim Jim produced No. You musical for me.
Jim:I did. Yeah. It's because there, I was making a musical of a certain caliber and quality that I was totally on board with. Mhmm. We're talking about making Rumpelstiltskin of Disney quality and and not saying that all of my co creators on Misfit Heights aren't of that caliber.
Jim:Mhmm. But it could be cheeky fun and and or or or even bad because some of the singers we had weren't necessarily on key. Yeah. And and with with a Disney style production, I wouldn't want to
T.C.:Sell. Sure. Yeah. That's the same same page. Like, wouldn't want to just half ass it.
T.C.:I'd want a full ass it in the
Jim:I would want when you listen to it, I would want you to be like, yeah. That's a that's Disney quality. I'm listening to a Disney soundtrack that note that these guys made that and right? That means, technically, we'd be competing on on such a grand stage.
T.C.:We would yeah. We would just certainly I know we know composers and lyrics. Like, there's people we work with. And, you know, that's not to say that this won't find a home in the the plethora of films that we could still write based on all these pitches and so on and so forth. It was so it's not like Ruppelstiltskin is
Jim:If Disney if Disney wants this, come come on. Let us know Disney and and and hire hire us down at your studios, and we'll make this.
T.C.:But Burbank's right over like, Disney Studios is right over here. Yeah. Yeah. So, yes, Eli, we we feel that heartfelt longing as well for Rumpelstiltskin, and, you know, it's sitting it's sitting right there available to us. So who knows?
T.C.:Maybe we could make a deal with little goblin man, and he could write all the music for us, and we just have to give him one of our kids. I mean, just just the first one.
Jim:It's not like he wants all of them.
T.C.:Sillydillybean says, this time, these are the droids you're looking for, robot emoji. And, yes, Dylan, you are correct. So he's about for starters. An Anya Garrity, a longtime corporal Dwayne Hicks lover here, I need alien intercept to be a reality. Our our great friend, Finn, has guested on the show.
T.C.:Finn says, goddamn. There are two that stand out. Alien Intercept is solid. But I've gotta say, I had so much fun with Megan versus Terminator that I've got to give my vote to that. That was such a fun mashup.
T.C.:Let's go. Yeah. The the surprise the thing about Megan and Terminator that I'm genuinely proud of is I even just in the ninety minutes that we came up with the whole thing
Jim:Mhmm.
T.C.:We created, like, a good time like, playing with time travel and figuring out the the rules of what we can do and how we were gonna do it. Given time to develop it, if this ends up making the cut for the finale like, I'm I've you know I love time travel, Jim.
Jim:Yeah. Absolutely. When we pick We're we're gonna we're gonna bust out a whiteboard. We're gonna chart the time travel.
T.C.:Good chart, and it's like Christopher Nolan style. How does this work? Okay. Well, I don't know. Yeah.
T.C.:So from Melina, another friend of the show. Well, you're all friends of the show. I can't call it. Everyone's a friend of the show. But Melina says, even if we weren't in the middle of a Star Wars dry at the moment, the Mandalorian and Grogu Grogu still being several months away envisions offering a brief reprieve from the more devoted for the more devoted fans among us, I would cast an earnest vote for droids as I'm always in the mood for new stories within a galaxy far far away.
T.C.:But I'd be lying if I didn't also feel a pull towards the further adventures of corporal Hicks. Alright. Thank you, Melina. Ryan Manda, droids. Leah, droids and thunderbolts.
T.C.:Emma Bramble, droids and aliens. Jack, star wars. Marissa, Megan and Screamboat. Taylor and the bears, Alien Intercept. Yes, please.
T.C.:Nightmare Echoes podcast. Thanks for listening. A like for a like. All caps and one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten exclamation points and a fire emoji and a heart and a heart emoji for Megan. The Geek Cave, alien intercept, fire emoji, fire emoji.
T.C.:Charlotte Art, alien intercept. Gary Kimbell, alien intercept. Sir Ryan Long Legs Barre posted a Will Ferrell GIF of him on Hot Ones saying, I recommend trying all of these. But then he said, droids and screamboat killie. Ren.
T.C.:Renaronda, droids, the lady Gregory. So this is Sam Gregory who voiced Elsa in Mhmm. Blade, heart of darkness last year. Put a vote in for Star Trek legacies. This is a great name for an art page, In Shane Art.
T.C.:I mean, the art the artist's name is Shane, and their art page is In Shane Art.
Jim:Because it's In Shane.
T.C.:In Shane. In Shane and the membrane. Alien, the goblin knight 17. Alien intercept closely followed by Star Trek legacies. Chris Scholes, Star Trek legacy, a friend of actually, a fellow six fiber Chris Scholes.
T.C.:High def freckles, says screambo killi. And droids. That's that's Danny Scott. Ali Rhythms, Alien Intercept.
Jim:Wait. Wait. Danny Scott of Demon Detective fame?
T.C.:Of of Danny Scott, like producer extraordinaire of the Demon Detective? Yeah. And star of the Demon Detective? Yeah. Yeah.
T.C.:That Danny Scott. Oh, okay. Yeah. Also from JCS Origins.
Jim:Oh. Yeah. Wow.
T.C.:Familiar? Yeah. Oh, and also A Christmas Sunset. She and she picked a freaking horror movie, which is funny. And
Jim:Star Wars. Actually. Decaying Millennial. It's funny for reasons we know Yes. That we won't elaborate on.
Jim:Inside jokes.
T.C.:Inside jokes. Decaying millennial, alien intercept. Alisa Marquez. Okay. So, actually, when I was compiling all the comments section here to give to just see how this is playing out in real time, we got a a good number of people who have messaged in, who've been messaged in who have messaged in a lot, whether we've done demands for them or not
Jim:Mhmm.
T.C.:People who've carried over from Twitter. And so this section of my my notes here from comments prove that we have listeners from all over the world.
Jim:Mhmm.
T.C.:And so, like, it's it's really cool to see the tags of where these comments are coming from. And I won't say I I could sit here and go, Mexico City, Manchester, Seoul.
Jim:Like that. Like you just did.
T.C.:I should
Jim:just do that? No. I'm saying you just did. You you could do it like that and you just did.
T.C.:Alicia Marquez, I cannot believe someone finally figured out how to make a crossover that respects both heirs of Star Trek legacies. All or Star Trek legacies all the way. Tom Henderson. Wait. Should I do the accent of the person?
T.C.:Would that be so so offensive when I get to the It
Jim:probably would. Yes.
T.C.:Tom Henderson, Screamboat Killy is the slasher period piece I never knew I needed. How the hell did you two come up with a serious movie out of this demand? Several question marks. Truth be told, that that episode did surprise the hell out of me. And when we when we picked it and narrowed it down for these options, there was that we had that conversation of, like, of of just taking a moment to appreciate.
T.C.:We could have come up with something dumb, but someone already did that. Mhmm. We we did take it seriously. We came up with a legit slasher movie that's just a steamboat movie.
Jim:I also think if we had wanted to do it comedic, coming up with, like, a genuine story first and then putting comedy in it.
T.C.:Right. Which is what we did with the horror spoof movie. Yeah. Like, that was our you gave us a North Star to follow when you just, like, let's just let's just come up with an a '24 movie
Jim:Yeah.
T.C.:And then start making fun of it. Yeah. So that's how we did it, Tom Henderson.
Jim:And now you have the secret to do it yourself.
T.C.:Soo Jin Park. Thunderbolt's special just feels, all caps, like something Marvel would absolutely announce on a random Tuesday. Red Guardian versus Cap, inject it. Clever. I apologize if I'm gonna say this wrong.
T.C.:Kofi Mensah. Alien three apologists, look away. Alien intercept correcting time line feels like therapy. I won't skip. Leah Bennett, droids of Star Wars stories, most wholesome chaotic energy I've heard in years.
T.C.:This is what the galaxy needs. Riley O'Connor, actually Riley O'Connor, Megan's fighting the Terminator. Bitch, please. I need I should you wanna read some of these comments? I just feel like I'm talking it.
Jim:That that's okay.
T.C.:Anita Schafer. The a has two dots over it. So is it Schafer?
Jim:Yes.
T.C.:Anita Schafer. Legacies is the only pitch that made me gasp out loud. Kirk versus Picard, but legally different. I don't know what that means. Masterpiece in making, you lovable beautiful dorks.
T.C.:Hashtag Jim's beard is my daddy.
Jim:Oh, wow. The the beard says, hello.
T.C.:That's Anita. Beard you talking to Anita? Daughter?
Jim:It's yes.
T.C.:May could you call her daughter?
Jim:Is she the daddy? Is she the no. No. That's fine. Charles
T.C.:Dupont, screamboat Achilles sounds like sleep Sleepy Hollow meets Agatha Christie. I don't know if that's a vote for for it or just a comment. Screamboat Killy sounds like Sleepy Hollow
Jim:meets I would take that as a a vote.
T.C.:We're counting it as a vote. Jamal Carter, the winter soldier being hunted by the ghost rider on motorcycles? Marvel, pick up your dang phones and call these two. What the fuck?
Jim:I I just I just realized that was like a flirty line, and I totally killed the entire mood by saying, don't hurt.
T.C.:And now you know what it's like when Jim's out at bars. Yeah. Yeah. Ten minutes later. Yeah.
T.C.:I think that girl was flirting with
Jim:me. Yeah.
T.C.:Again, apologize if I say this name incorrectly. Priya Nanduri, alien plus blade runner, is a pitch forged in fires of nerd gods.
Jim:I think you pronounced that whole thing pretty well.
T.C.:Henrik Lindstrom, I want the droids movie yesterday. Thank you for including it this year. A little band of droids running for their lives is vital. Right? And then peak.
T.C.:Yes.
Jim:It's vital and peak.
T.C.:Vital and peak. Now we if for those on the Patreon may remember that our first episode of the season, we talked about this longing to do droids and do Star Wars, And I was so bold to go, let's just we're gonna write it. We're gonna write
Jim:We're just we're
T.C.:just gonna do said, why would you say that out loud?
Jim:Yes.
T.C.:I was like, we'll do we wanna do it. Well, it's Yeah. It's eleven months later.
Jim:It's a it's a full season later.
T.C.:Yep. Thank you, Henrik. Okay. Again, Mi Ling Ho, as a lover of camp and carnage, Megan versus Terminator, has to get my vote. Great.
Jim:Nice.
T.C.:Oscar Valdez, legacy feels like the kind of bold track that makes fan culture explode in the best ways possible. Keep JJ away from it, and maybe YouTube can write it with Simon Pegg. I I guess. Is Simon asking us to write I guess. Is does Simon want to write us write with us on this?
Jim:Please please answer.
T.C.:Oscar? Oscar, I'm talking to you. Hey. Alright.
Jim:He's Yes. Yes, Simon Pegg. We will write Alright. With you.
T.C.:Gabriela Silva. Thunderbolt special gives me the gives us the exact one offs Marvel used to craft pre Endgame. Hype. Voted. Declan Byron burn.
T.C.:Alien intercept is the alien three apology letter we frag and need now. Zara Khan. Droids being hunted because one has location of cloning facility and they're in love? You guys, this is sweet and silly and high stakes. Jim, accept the love in your heart.
T.C.:Thank you, Sara. This one just says Mason. Screamboat Killie is somehow the classiest elevated slasher murder spree ever? How? What?
T.C.:Now? Yes? Thank you, Mason. Nadia Petrova. Meghan versus Terminator feels like it would break the box office and the Internet.
T.C.:Bring back Tim Miller. For Tim Miller did oh, bring back Tim Miller. He gets it. Tim Miller did dark, dark fate. Oh, okay.
T.C.:And I think Tim Miller did Deadpool. Right? Didn't Tim Miller do the first Deadpool?
Jim:Yep. Yep. Oh, no. I'd I'd I'd I agree. I liked dark fate.
T.C.:Yeah. Yeah. He did.
Jim:I think the Terminator fans were really just exhausted Yeah. By by dark fate. Mhmm. But not not by that movie. By time it came out Mhmm.
Jim:Terminator fans, the Terminator Terminator enthusiasm Uh-huh. Had been exhausted.
T.C.:Yeah. I think so too. And it's a shame because that one is, like, when you go from I'll even put three. If you take that original trilogy, everything that followed that salvation felt like a misstep. I think I love Christian Bale, but felt like he was miscast, and they spoiled everything in the trailer.
T.C.:Sam Worthington was in it. And right? And then Genesis was oh, boy. And then, yeah, and then by the
Jim:time Duck
T.C.:Fake came along, was like, oh, man. Really, really, people people missed out, and it's probably because that 02/2008 writer's strike. The best Terminator we got after two is the Sarah Connor Chronicles.
Jim:Yeah. I I was crazy surprised by that show too. I thought it was gonna be terrible.
T.C.:Right.
Jim:And it was amazing.
T.C.:It's so good. Lena Headey's an excellent Sarah Connor. Mhmm. Even Brian Austin Green Yeah. Is so good in that.
T.C.:Like, you know, you'd never expect the dope from one of the sexy dopes from ninety two one o be so compelling as an action act like an action hero. Yeah. But he was great in it. Man, in that series oh, and Summer Glow as well coming after post firefly. What a great series, and and I feel like it came and went and forgotten and got buried by so much other Terminator stuff.
T.C.:So, oh, boy. Ethan Kawagahusi. Legacy gets my vote. Chris Pine needs a swan song, and why not see Picard and the crew at the same time? Time travel when you both explicitly stated you don't like time travel as a go to in Trek?
T.C.:Yes. Yes to all of it. True.
Jim:Yeah. That's absolutely true.
T.C.:But in in our defense, they jumped forward in time, not backwards.
Jim:You you know, until the end of the movie.
T.C.:Yeah. Then they go back to the past or back to the future. Our future. There now. And and I'm aware I'm well aware that Star Trek Discovery shot them five hundred years in the future and or whatever.
T.C.:I'm being hyperbolic, but, yes, Ethan. Thank you. Sergey Ivanov, honestly, the Super Bowl Super Bowl. The Thunderbolt Special has three bangers in one. I'm weak.
T.C.:Vote. Or I vote for Thunder I'm weak. I vote for Thunderbolts. Brandon Schmidt, the Thunderbolts, Hanukkah Special. Thank you, Brandon.
T.C.:Still, you know, we got a few more comments here, and then then we're we're gonna I just, you know, acknowledging Yep. Donovan want
Jim:me to apologize for it?
T.C.:Alien, Jessica Swenson, Megan versus Terminator, Mike Smart, are you recasting Picard? Tom Hardy's been him before. Because Patrick Stewart won't face off against anyone or anything. Yes. This is yes.
T.C.:We would not have Patrick Stewart come back and play Picard. No. What's what's James McAvoy doing?
Jim:Oh, my god. That would be hilarious. God.
T.C.:I honestly would I don't he would probably have to be bald. Right? Yeah. Just because that's the iconic look. Mhmm.
T.C.:Captain Rex 76, droids and thunderbolts. Orion Diana Henning. I'd love to see Yelena take on the entire nation of Wakanda. Me too. The thing I love about that segment of Thunderbolts really is Mhmm.
T.C.:Justin Hammer and more of Andy Serkis' claw. It's great. Johnny Khan, Rumpelstiltskin, and also I really like the Fantastic Four. Homestar, Rumpelstiltskin. So, yeah, a couple more Homestar.
T.C.:Homestar. Okay. I thought Homestar like
Jim:I'm a Homestar runner. Yeah. That that's Homestar? Homestar Homestar Runner.
T.C.:Yeah.
Jim:That's the the normal character. Right. And Homestar was the the goofy other character.
T.C.:You're right. I always thought it was Homestar, but it's Homestar. Yep. Well,
Jim:hi, Ham Star, about the Brumple Ceilty.
T.C.:Wall score, I'm throwing in for Screamboat Killy. I think the one I was digging was the 2,005 Spider Man and Daredevil. But damn it, we can't just keep doing superhero movies. Also, like the TMT episode. And then don't worry, wall score.
T.C.:We'll we'll be back to in a moment here. But he is he is right, and I actually mentioned this earlier about I'll just do nothing but superhero movies.
Jim:Yeah. I mean, if if if that's how you guys are gonna vote, then we will do it. Absolutely.
T.C.:We had a blast.
Jim:If this this is really just the studio demands superhero movies, that's what they're demanding, and that's that's what we're gonna do.
T.C.:We'll do a 100 of them, and then maybe Disney will call us.
Jim:Yeah.
T.C.:Right? Right? Right? Warner Brothers? War anybody?
T.C.:James Gunn, come on.
Jim:I'll you know what? I'll
T.C.:Yeah. Sony.
Jim:I'll do Jupiter's Legacy. I'll do it.
T.C.:Netflix.
Jim:I'll I'll rejuvenate that.
T.C.:Steph, I dig the National Treasure episode. Corndog, I loved to hear I'd love to hear the Ninja Turtles one, personally. Wall score comes back. Me too. Eli, let's do all of them, l o l.
T.C.:Darkwield, my favorite one has to be the nineties sitcom one. I'm glad someone Nice. Wrote in for that. Yeah. Because if if it did if it wouldn't stand a chance being voted for.
Jim:Probably not. No.
T.C.:But the the Family Matters one and the Saved by the Bell one bring me no endless amount of joy. Like, endless amount of joy.
Jim:And I actually think the home improvement one, were you to actually see it. Mhmm. Like, us doing an audio version of of it, it'd it'd be it'd be fine. It wouldn't be anything impressive. But I think John Cena would I I think that movie that movie would be a home run.
Jim:That that movie would be a blockbuster.
T.C.:One of our shining moments, and I talked about when it happened, was Richard Karn, the actual Al Borland Yep. Liked and shared that episode. He was all for Keegan Michael Key playing Al Borland. Nice. And and I was Nice.
Jim:That's that's awesome.
T.C.:He just said, l o l, and he reshared it. And I was like, woo. We got the approval of Al Borland, everyone. But, yeah, thank you, Darkwield, for for showing some love for the the Steve Urkel, Rick and Morty nonsense.
Jim:Yes. So freaking cool.
T.C.:Oh, man. And then, yeah, the Zach Morris' trash.
Jim:Mhmm. So bad. And then Just bringing bringing Zach Morris' trash to life is is hilarious.
T.C.:And then Valscore comes back in. Fuck it. That one too. Robin Valentine said, this poll could do with a none of the above option. Oh.
T.C.:To which I said
Jim:That's right up there with the mid comment.
T.C.:To which I said, oh, man, Robin, you could also just not comment. But then I added that option. Oh. We got one vote of
Jim:all From from Robin?
T.C.:From Robin for none of the above. So thank you, Robin.
Jim:Okay.
T.C.:Jaime Elvis Elvers says Neil Baumkamp's alien film Neil Baumkamp's alien film is probably the most disappointed I've ever been about a film not happening. So definitely the Hicks one. Saying that is a rare fan of three and four too, l o l. Yeah. I there's another timeline where Neil Bomkamp did make his Mhmm.
T.C.:His alien movie was going we like that concept art. For those listening, if you haven't looked, just Google or
Jim:Neil Blomkampf's alien.
T.C.:Yeah. And and look at some of that concept art and and realize this was, like, off the tail of District 9.
Jim:Mhmm.
T.C.:He was at his hottest. So Matthew Starkey, if the Star Trek one followed the formula of Into Darkness, it would end with Picard falling off a bridge and dying. Thank you to everybody who commented, Even more so the number of votes we had. So what we're gonna do right here is we're gonna take a quick break.
Jim:K.
T.C.:And then we're gonna come back and
Jim:Read all of these comments again?
T.C.:Read them all again. Yeah. This this was half of them. I'm gonna keep going. No.
T.C.:No. We're gonna come back and we're gonna discuss the the numbers on the boats and and get to that finale. So be right back. Alright, Jim. We are back.
Jim:Here we are.
T.C.:What'd think about some of those write ins? Some of those votes for Dread, know, Bumpa Stilts. We already
Jim:talked about that.
T.C.:True. But like And and the nineties.
Jim:They're they're they're it they're great. They're it's I'm glad people made write ins. They they they it's flattering in a number of ways. It it means it means you're actually listening.
T.C.:You like us. You really
Jim:like us. But it means that those things also, like, even despite our pairing it down, it means people are paying attention and they like the things that we're doing so much that they they they want to correct us
T.C.:Yeah.
Jim:On what they wanna see at the end.
T.C.:I forgot that one. I it's like Yeah. We did discuss Spider Man Daredevil. And much like Batman a couple seasons ago, we were like, do we really wanna do another Batman when we had already done Justice League 95? So there's that little bit of bias towards just trying to challenge ourselves.
T.C.:It's not that we didn't want. We we could write that, Spike.
Jim:No. I'm wrong.
T.C.:I'm wrong. Was it was discussed on putting it in.
Jim:Mhmm.
T.C.:But it did come down to wanting to challenge ourselves into doing something a little different. So, I'm I'm happy that I know when that one drops, I think it was Finn like, that already gets my vote. Nice. I think it was that one.
Jim:I think if I remember right, I think you said that about, like, three three different episodes.
T.C.:Okay. So first off, thank you for everyone who voted. People who voted without commenting, thank you for that too. I am I am there's a small part of me that is tickled by the number of votes we got this year. We got
Jim:Yeah. I was I was sitting by as you were, like, writing up Tabulating. And you were just, like, giggling the whole time. Like, you were being tickled as It does. You were doing.
T.C.:The the numbers were tickling me, Jim. And I'm not a math guy, but one this is one of the things right here that tickles me. We got 414 votes this year.
Jim:Oh, nice.
T.C.:Four one four. Nice. Now this this is certainly like okay. So
Jim:So the reason that's a magical number Yeah. Is because that is the area code or one of the area codes for Southeastern Wisconsin, for Milwaukee.
T.C.:Milwaukee specifically. And it's and it was the area code for my child my hometown until they exceeded the numbers and had that added.
Jim:They added added another one.
T.C.:So 414 is yeah.
Jim:Go ahead. And it's it's one of the numbers that is included. Can like, is is it like a secret number or or like like like an Easter egg number? Yes. Yeah.
Jim:TC will it's not it's not the first one he goes to, but it is one of the regular go tos.
T.C.:Number it's number two
Jim:is the second one I go to. That will be incorporated into scripts.
T.C.:Right. Yeah. As as an easter egg for myself because I I write a lot of scripts for people.
Jim:Mhmm.
T.C.:And I am legally prohibited from admitting that or or or divulging Mhmm. Scripts that I've worked on because that's what script doctors and consultants and ghostwriters do. But, you know, I put a little I put a little Easter egg here and there for myself and for those who are in the know, and 414 is one of those numbers. And I put it in even in Demon Detective,
Jim:the Yeah. One of
T.C.:the license plates
Jim:Yeah. Yeah.
T.C.:We changed to be MKE414. My go to number is 262. Yeah. That's because that isn't the hometown area code. But the fact that we got 414 votes made me very, ah.
T.C.:Yay. Thanks, universe, matrix, whatever. So okay. The with those 414 votes, we're gonna go from bottom here. So despite it getting some love, despite having so many conversations with people directly about it, Screamboat Killy comes in at the bottom with only 24 votes total.
T.C.:So it was our dark horse.
Jim:It was.
T.C.:We we knew putting it out there was going to be like, there was a risk this wasn't gonna get anything. Mhmm. But the fact that it got the love that it did, and and some good back and forth about it, the fact that some people who voted for it, I wouldn't have expected to vote for it. When we mentioned Danny earlier, it was like, you're voting for that one? Okay.
T.C.:Yeah. And and yeah. And and we already discussed, like, the fun we had in crafting something that was actually we could we could do it. It's public domain. We're Yeah.
T.C.:We're not playing with anyone else's IP here. You know, maybe there's Well,
Jim:also and then Screamboat Killy cleaves so far away from the reference it's making that it even if it wasn't, I think it would be protected under parody.
T.C.:Right. You're right. Right. Absolutely. And they yeah.
T.C.:So Screambo Achilles, you know, just just set sail down the Mighty Miss and was murderized by a by a murderous murderer. So long.
Jim:The the murderous murderer of not enough votes. Is that
T.C.:Yeah. Not enough votes. Not enough not enough votes. Am I saying his name correctly?
Jim:Yeah.
T.C.:Not enough votes. Alright. Truth be told, there when people were asking me, like, what's your favorites? And, like, it was hard because I did wanna write all six of these.
Jim:Mhmm.
T.C.:But there was that little like, each one of them had a special place in my heart that I was like, oh, darn. Sure. It's like Screamboat not getting in is like, oh, that truthfully would have been a really unique challenge
Jim:Sure.
T.C.:To write, perform, and produce. So in addition to that, Thunderbolts
Jim:Yeah.
T.C.:Makes it to the number five slot with 33 votes. What it I I just want it to exist. Just we've discussed you know, my love. We've discussed my what if as an animated series is so good. I wish there was some more Marvel specials.
T.C.:This that one would had the biggest cast because we coulda done it in three pieces. Mhmm. Certainly would've over like, had people do multiple voices on it, but just the fighting with Captain America. Yeah. Honestly, Andy Loud would have made a good
Jim:Yes. He would have.
T.C.:Would have would have made I mean, he did he did craven very well for Spider Man. Giving him the boisterous Mhmm. Jovial Alexei would have been great. Yeah. So what could have been?
T.C.:And, yeah, when you when we got to I can't remember if it was you or but Ghost Rider versus
Jim:Yeah.
T.C.:Soldier was just that motorcycle chase. I just wanna see that.
Jim:So badly.
T.C.:I just wanna see would
Jim:so good.
T.C.:The gun, like, shooting over his shoulder and that whip and chain and wire. Oh, come on. You can just close your eyes and see it.
Jim:Mhmm.
T.C.:Oh, that is is a it's just I want that to exist. Yeah. And and seeing as we would have written them as about thirty minutes of pop anyway, it's just one of those things that, well, we we could.
Jim:Just this this thirty minute relentless chase.
T.C.:Yeah. Oh, man. Some some Fury Road inspired
Jim:Mhmm.
T.C.:References. Tangent, in Star Trek Visions, one of the one of the entries opens with a character radiation suit with the helmet. And he's standing over the camera, and he thrusts his arm forward holding what looks like a tape deck and hitting play on it. It's exact it's animated exactly like Marty McFly or George. And I it's just a tangential thing of, like had to had to say that.
T.C.:Just my love of that. So but so long, Thunderbolts. Still a great episode and Mhmm. Some some great fun to be had there. Okay.
T.C.:Moving into number four slots with 45 votes, Megan versus the Terminator,
Jim:which
T.C.:I'm surprised was above Thunderbolts.
Jim:Actually, yeah. No. Now that you now that you mentioned that, yeah. That that is a bit surprising.
T.C.:And and it's and it comes from Megan Tude in Do So Hot.
Jim:No. Yeah.
T.C.:Which kinda made me think, like, should we do this one? But there was something so campy and ridiculous and fun about it. I loved making the poster, just the tagline of, like, will she bring judgment? Obviously. Like, what a fun, campy, silly idea and and, yeah, the fun of time travel.
T.C.:Get that whiteboard out. But no. No Megan. No Megan versus Terminator. Okay.
T.C.:We are in the top three, Jim.
Jim:Okay. Here we go.
T.C.:Halfway there. Here we go. With 74 votes. Droids.
Jim:There it is. There it is.
T.C.:Star Wars can't catch a break.
Jim:It can't.
T.C.:But you had said if it won, we cheated. Yes. I did. I did. Elaborate.
Jim:What you brought it up earlier. Yeah. If if if it had won, it would have been cheating because you said earlier this year we're gonna write it anyway. Yeah. Yeah.
Jim:Yeah. And then we haven't.
T.C.:Yeah.
Jim:And then if it won the vote, we cheated in writing it because we said we're gonna write it
T.C.:Anyway.
Jim:Not not utilizing essentially the the fin finale slot to write it.
T.C.:But a good oh, man. It honestly, that's the best that Star Wars has ever done in her finale voting.
Jim:That's true. Yeah.
T.C.:We'll get there one day, folks. Maybe. You'll you'll let us get there one day. You will demand it. Okay.
T.C.:So that that puts us with the final two entries here. Okay? Alphabetically
Jim:Mhmm.
T.C.:The final two entries are Alien Intercept and Star Trek Legacy. Yes. Okay. So this is the points. One hundred and twenty and one hundred and twenty one.
Jim:Really?
T.C.:That is how close this is. Wow. It's it
Jim:came down
T.C.:to one To one put this
Jim:Never let anyone tell you your vote doesn't matter. All they're trying to do is steal your vote.
T.C.:I I that's why I was giggling when I when I was tabulating it, when I was calculating, I was tally manning everything. And I get I was, like, seeing the numbers, like, line up. And I'm
Jim:like, are you shitting me?
T.C.:Are we gonna tie again? A going are electoral to have college this again? Wow. By one vote.
Jim:Wait a minute. That means okay.
T.C.:Yeah. By one vote between alphabetically
Jim:Mhmm.
T.C.:Alien Intercept, Star Trek Legacies, our season six finale is going to be Star Trek Legacies. Wow. Our first episode of the season made it to the finale.
Jim:Okay.
T.C.:Which is so cool.
Jim:It is.
T.C.:I I am can't I truthfully thought Alien ran away with this.
Jim:I thought yeah. I thought Alien was gonna win.
T.C.:Alien took off. When I dropped this two weeks ago and people could start voting, only Alien was getting votes. It had a 120 votes total.
Jim:Yeah.
T.C.:And Star Trek Legacy got a 121. Wow. But but Alien took off. Every every like, even just the comment sections we just read.
Jim:Mhmm.
T.C.:Alien came up a ton, so did Star Trek. But when looking at the the the the poles that they put out, yeah, I was shocked. I was like, oh, man. This thing's running away. Everything else ran together at first, and then I could see the divide happening.
T.C.:And I couldn't tell just by glancing at it which of those three was gonna get it. So I I mean, that's how close it was. You can see it's by one vote. Mhmm. So ladies and gentlemen, we are going to be writing Star Trek Legacies.
T.C.:We're gonna be ending the Calvin verse. How do you feel about Nervous. This, Nervous? Yeah. Granted, I was
Jim:gonna feel nervous whichever one Mhmm. Had won. Holy. Actually, that's real because honestly, I had been I had been prepping myself to do intercept.
T.C.:Me too. Like, even even going so far as being able to have access to an actual xenomorph to do sound effects for us. I've been telling people for days. I'm like, no. We got a guy to do the alien.
T.C.:Remember when we had Scooby Doo? We got Xenomorph. So that's not to say I'm I'm not stoked about Star Trek here because it's the it's the movie series that started this whole podcast.
Jim:That That's true.
T.C.:I It's it's and that's wonderful. That is really cool. It actually weirdly squeezes my heart, and I feel tears forming at the corner of
Jim:my eyes. Well, don't do that. Maybe if it was if this was the series finale
T.C.:Right. Right.
Jim:Right. Then then it'd be a a true actual bookend. Right. But the the the don't shed your tears. I won't.
T.C.:Screw you, Star Trek.
Jim:Well, I mean, don't don't don't screw Star Trek.
T.C.:No. No. I'm gonna screw it like it's a green alien.
Jim:Oh, god.
T.C.:No. I how cool is this? Thank you for everyone who voted. I I hope there's not any level of disappointment out there any any more so than, oh, well. Like, I don't want anyone, like, I'm, like, pissed off about this because this is gonna be fun and also a time travel movie.
Jim:Yeah. Yes.
T.C.:So, yeah, I the the fun that I already have banked because I've been thinking about all six of these for weeks now is the sound design. Like, Star Trek comes
Jim:with so much
T.C.:sound design.
Jim:So much theremin.
T.C.:Yeah. And and I've I'm gonna I've already got some score notions of how this is gonna go, but this is a big cast too.
Jim:Yeah. It is.
T.C.:We we will certainly balance the main characters appropriately, but this is this is a this is a big cast. Mhmm. And that's fun fun to be had. The the true challenge of this is is gonna be the TNG stuff.
Jim:Mhmm.
T.C.:Like, because we are we are getting to be the ones to conceptualize what the Kelvin verse version of this is.
Jim:There's gonna be the first decision I already know we're gonna have to make, Yar?
T.C.:Like, or Yeah. That's left you from Yar or Worf? Oh, no. What is TNG without Worf? What is Star Trek without Worf?
T.C.:That's a that's a fair question.
Jim:Mhmm.
T.C.:And and truth be told, we we will have to discuss because we didn't do a lot of discussing of TNG as as a full cast of characters.
Jim:I think it has to be Worf. Sorry. Like like, I'm already I'm already starting to to to put it together as as we're talking here.
T.C.:I I think so too. Yeah. But it's it's but to to that point, it probably needs to be the core cast of TNG. But because it's an alternate timeline, there's always a possibility of it's not doctor Beverly Kusher. It's it's Bashir.
T.C.:It's not it's not this character. It's that character. There's there's other there's three shows of that era, Star Trek, Next Generation, Deep Space Nine, and Voyager, that we could potentially play with. I'm not suggesting we do because Yeah. We we're we're it's too too many things to think about.
Jim:Mhmm.
T.C.:We we aren't capable of writing Infinity War, or are we?
Jim:Yes. We are.
T.C.:Okay. But but, yeah, like, we probably will have to stick with the the core TNG characters. I do think Worf Worf's got
Jim:it. Yeah. Well, the the reason that it it's not just, like a like the heart wing. Oh, he's got it. But I think it will there's more story to work with with the the original Star Trek cast showing up in this future and seeing a
T.C.:Klingon.
Jim:Klingon in Starfleet uniform, I think is there's so much more story there.
T.C.:Yeah. And not to be fair, Worf is in the original lineup. Like, he is in Yes. With Yar. Yar's in charge security and and Wharf
Jim:is what was?
T.C.:Yeah. Yeah. Wharf is
Jim:I did not remember.
T.C.:Yeah. Wharf and Yar are both there. So we don't have I to
Jim:thought I thought Wharf only showed up after Tashiar.
T.C.:Nope. Nope. Right from the get.
Jim:Okey doke.
T.C.:Okey doke. But also, the way we're presenting the story right now, the POV is Kirk and Picard are and crew are antagonists towards
Jim:Mhmm.
T.C.:Our heroes. So I don't know how much time we will have to spend with this crew.
Jim:We can't Sure.
T.C.:I I don't know if we want like, I it's obviously a discussion as we beat out the story. Do we want to give a whole b plot to these characters, or do we just meet them through Kirk? Like, do we stick with the the the prime crew and and only have experiences with these characters in in small doses? I don't know. That's
Jim:No. I I think it's important to to hang out with them. I realize that means it's it's we're gonna really gonna meet them more as the the the probably the two crews together. I think it it's bookended with with Kirk. Mhmm.
Jim:But once we get to that future, I think we spend a bunch of time with the next generation crew as well.
T.C.:You know what? I I think there's a POV handoff we can do. Like, whatever our first act is where Kirk goes after our fill in Mhmm. As soon as they cross that threshold and we get that, we come back in, and now we're with the d. We're with
Jim:the with the
T.C.:d. We're with the
Jim:We're with the d. We're with the d, yo. This is a tenacious d movie now. Yeah. Imagine Jack Black and Kyle Gas running
T.C.:age of golden gal across the galaxy.
Jim:Running their own Starfleet ship.
T.C.:No. Once once we get to that jump, the p o the perspective of the movie goes to Picard. Like, we go to a blackout, and then we fade back in, and it's Sure. You know, captain's law captain's that's a terrible Picard, but captain's law
Jim:is hear it.
T.C.:It's like star date, blah blah blah. Like, we just the the next thing we hear is Picard's captain's log. Maybe. Maybe not.
Jim:But we we Yeah.
T.C.:Yeah. Hand
Jim:the movie off to them.
T.C.:Yeah. So that when to that crew, the villains show up Mhmm. They're like, this is the Enterprise. This is that's Kirk. Like yeah.
T.C.:Fight. Fight. Fight. Now now we have time to be with this crew, and then I guess it's either we think about this in three acts or five, or whatever the case, when we get back to Kirk, then it's a it's a back and forth. Like, how do we hand off the narrative?
Jim:Sure.
T.C.:Which is fun because we also have a third entry. The the villain in this is someone trying to mess up the timeline and
Jim:what Mhmm.
T.C.:So a lot of fun to be had there and and all the to to truly wrap up the Kelvinverse, cool.
Jim:Well, to at least touch on, I I think, things that at least I as a Star Trek fan watching the Kelvinverse wondering, well, what is this? What ramifications does it what does this mean for the other Treks, the other stories? How how would they be different? How how would they be how would it all fit together with with this?
T.C.:Mhmm. That's something that I don't know if we ever discussed here, but I always early on when when Star Trek into darkness came out and I was very like, I had a notion of wouldn't it be something if the long game here, whether it's the third movie or not, was that we all along have been seeing what created the mirror universe?
Jim:Oh, sure.
T.C.:That that that fracture is what created
Jim:That is a dark timeline.
T.C.:And, obviously, it didn't go that way, but there was that notion of, like, I'll forgive Star Trek into darkness if they if they go that way.
Jim:Mhmm.
T.C.:I was like, oh, that's why this is so what it is. But alas, really, the Deep Space Nine was the show that played in the mirror verse the most.
Jim:Really?
T.C.:Yeah. They they went they had a whole, like, long, like, returning reoccurring storyline that they went to several times over the course of that series.
Jim:I quit DS nine, I guess, way too early. I think I I quit it after two two seasons. Oh, not even Maybe three?
T.C.:Come on. If you know Star Trek, it doesn't get good till the third season. They always update the uniforms in season three. They figured out which characters match best together in season three. It's it's the history of the show.
T.C.:Not entirely fair, but, like, TNG, Deep Space Nine, and Voyager all had that sort of They three is in the industry. Yeah. Yeah. So, I mean, this might require a whiteboard just to list all the characters we have to juggle Sure. Because we will have the the pine Kirk Mhmm.
T.C.:Crew, and dealing with all them. And, you know, we'll have to discuss how to Anton Yelchin and
Jim:Mhmm.
T.C.:Chekhov having passed away. Like, obviously, this is all audio. So are
Jim:Didn't didn't they didn't they already address that? Like, he he he left. He's not on the enterprise anymore? No. He's he's graduated to another
T.C.:No. He's in Star Trek Beyond.
Jim:Is he?
T.C.:But they did create a new class of star ship called the Elgin class
Jim:Ah.
T.C.:Which I think is really sweet. Like, a sweet homage to him, because he'd finished filming Star Trek to be Star Trek Beyond when he passed away. Sad. Very sad. But yeah.
T.C.:Okay. So Star Trek Legacy, Jim. Thank you everyone Yeah. For listening this season and and coming along with us through all this. It's as we said time and again, this is such a thing to do, and we are very appreciative of people from literally all over the world
Jim:All over the world.
T.C.:People listen to this and comments and all the votes we got in here. And yeah. So we don't I'm not gonna say a release date for this, but it will be before the end of the year. That's that is our that is the the schedule we have kept. And also, Jim, handshake to you.
T.C.:We have now not had a late we did that a full season once again with Artist.
Jim:If you're counting the the if you're counting the the finale well, right. You're you're just saying for the the the two week schedule Yeah. We sorry.
T.C.:Yeah. We didn't miss we didn't miss a release date. I'm very proud of that fact from last year and the year before, and we continued to maintain our consistency. And if the Internet has taught us anything, consistency is key, whether quality is there or not.
Jim:Yeah. Oh, god. And that's that's the most difficult thing for me. This probably is the thing I'm most consistent about in my life.
T.C.:Yeah. So cool. Man, 414 votes. Yeah. And by a margin of one
Jim:One twenty one and one twenty. Mhmm. So two. How many did third place get?
T.C.:Third place had 72.
Jim:72. Okay.
T.C.:Detroit's was 72 votes.
Jim:So you you're saying the three were neck and neck until those two
T.C.:Yeah.
Jim:Really started to shoot past.
T.C.:Right. Right. Because I I kept I kept the the social campaign going of just like, hey. Only week left to vote. Hey.
T.C.:Couple days left. My favorite the day we get the most votes for the past two years now
Jim:Mhmm.
T.C.:Is voting day. Because I the the posts are usually the most important vote you'll cast today for our finale of our cookie show. And we got a good burst of voting on those on that day, on Monday. So it is the most important vote that you can cast every year.
Jim:It is.
T.C.:Last call to action here as we go into season seven. What? Wow. Wow. What do you you know, obviously, demands are what we want from you so that we can keep challenging ourselves.
T.C.:But anything else you wanna do? I in the past, we've had more than one person say, you know, read more comments from the listeners.
Jim:Okay.
T.C.:As we discussed with David on the AZP crossover, we don't get a lot of comments per se. Yeah. A lot of, like, private messages, and I have some nice conversations with people who aren't looking for us to, like, take that conversation to the show unless it's a good conversation point for the two of us. But I I think it's fun to just hear all the here, especially for the voting. Sure.
T.C.:It just, like, lets people's geek flags fly. But but certainly, Patreon and the Discord and the Reddits and Instagram's a good spot too for people if they just wanna chime in on a specific specific episode. But is there anything that we're that you'd like to see us do? I I'm not saying we're gonna change the formula of the show because it it's working. And if it's not broke, why fix it?
T.C.:Right? But, yeah, just anything any what's put something in the suggestion box is what I'm see is what I'm suggesting to you. So and yeah. So I think
Jim:More Garfield. You guys don't talk about Garfield enough.
T.C.:Is that Simpsons?
Jim:No. That's just I picked a random Sunday morning comic.
T.C.:Sounded Simpsons esque. But I do think that that we're gonna wrap up here because Jim and I, we got a movie to write.
Jim:Yeah.
T.C.:So we gotta get going here right now. Yeah. We only have so much time. But
Jim:okay. Stop talking to us.
T.C.:Stop talking. Okay?
Jim:No. Never stop. Please.
T.C.:Don't. Okay. But I think that is going to do it for this episode, for this season of the Studio Demands It. We'd we'd love to know if we met your demands over the course of this season and what you feel about the the finale as it comes up. So hit us up about what you think about that, or if we missed talking about anything, please engage.
T.C.:You can message us directly at studio demands it dot com, on Instagram at studio demands it. If you aren't already, you crazy person, go ahead and subscribe wherever you're listening to this. Just hit the little subscribe button, and then you could ignore it. It's fine. If you feel like giving us a little review, you can do that in app.
T.C.:That always helps to show out show out into the algorithm. You can find us on YouTube and TikTok. And now that I have some time while we're writing this, I'm going to be getting some more of our highlight reels from our commentary tracks up on TikTok and YouTube. So stay tuned for those. Jim, where else can people talk to you?
Jim:You can come join the conversation on Reddit at r/studio demands it When when do you go there? Post nearly enough, but you feel free to post stuff about it.
T.C.:Do you know what you you you probably should call yourself Toubac Waxon on there.
Jim:I I probably should. I I think but I'm I don't. On Reddit, I think I'm Toubac. I'm Hanigan Rex.
T.C.:Toubac Waxon.
Jim:Toubac Waxon. Yeah. And Discord, you can join our Discord server by going to our website studstudiodemandsit.com. And at the top of the page, there is a link to the Discord server. Yeah.
Jim:Come on. Come on down.
T.C.:Down. And
Jim:I swear I'm gonna try to be more proactive and all this. I'm I'm such a I'm really good at lurking at just not really interacting. No. Not like that. Not creepy.
Jim:Not creepy.
T.C.:Look at my kitchen window and I just see your eyes.
Jim:But not creepy.
T.C.:Excuse you have such kind eyes. It's true. But I know just below your eyes, you're going
Jim:No. That's where my beard is and my beard is daddy. Did I say that right? You did. Okay.
T.C.:You like the word?
Jim:And and you know what? I I wanna I wanna go back to that real quick. So so to to to them, my beard says, how you doing?
T.C.:There you go. Yeah. Yeah. I don't edit these, but I'd be happy to edit that in some way earlier.
Jim:I'd I'd I'd just try oh, Reddit. No. I was what? Come talk to me. Come talk to me on Internet on Internet.
T.C.:You said you'll do better. You won't
Jim:just I'll I'll try to I'll try to talk more.
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Jim:Yeah. So basically, it was there were there were five years of our podcast where we were going to see movies and just talking to each other. Now we talk to you guys.
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T.C.:Okay. Jim, unless you have anything else, I think that does it for this season. Anything?
Jim:No. I'm thinking about Star Trek.
T.C.:Great. Okay. Well, we'll go off and do that right now. And we'll be back again soon with our finale and another season of Your Demands to challenge ourselves to improve and tackle the world of cinema. I am TC.
Jim:Did you know that Star Trek backwards is Kurt Rats?
T.C.:Kurt Rats. That's Jim and Goodbye. Goodbye.