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The Conscious Collaboration Podcast brings together entrepreneurs, changemakers, and thought leaders. We aim to highlight the people who embody the idea of aligned mind, body, and business. Each week, we share, discuss, and learn from the various experiences and ideas of our guest experts. Through our discovery, we find a path to aligned mind, body, and business.
The conscious collaboration brings together entrepreneurs, change makers, and thought leaders. We aim to highlight the people that embody the idea of aligned mind, body, and business. Each week, we share, discuss, and learn from the various experiences and ideas of our guest experts. Through our discovery, we find a path to an aligned mind, body, and business.
Emily:What up, guys? This is Emily.
Lisa:And I'm Lisa, and we are the Conscious Collaboration. And here with us today is miss Joanna Grosso from the big Yay. The radio show.
Joanna Grosso:Hi. Hello. Hello. So excited to be here.
Lisa:Yay. Yes. It's so good to meet you in person here and collaborate.
Joanna Grosso:Same thing. I have been I've been really excited, like, to do this.
Lisa:Wonderful. Well, why don't you tell our listeners out there a little bit about yourself, Joanna, and how you found us. And, tell us a little bit about the Big Gay Radio Show too.
Joanna Grosso:Yes. Yes. Well, I'm Joanna Doso. I'm, from the Big Gay Radio Show. I am one of the main hosts on there.
Joanna Grosso:I am an out bisexual broadcaster, I guess. We always joke that I'm, like, the token bisexual on the show. We all kind of have, like, different roles. But, so, yeah, I started with a big gay radio show about 7 months ago. And, like, I was telling them off there, I was, like, I wasn't really taking it very seriously.
Joanna Grosso:It was just something that I thought I'd kinda come on and just, you know, have fun, kind of relax, and just have, like, a platform of some sort that I felt comfortable being able to talk about with my friends that I've known for a little bit before. And then this past 7 months, it's just turned like this whirlwind of things that, like, I didn't even think that could actually happen. You know, we were just, we were just nominated for a finalist or we were nominated, then we became finalists for best of the babe radio show. It's a part of the creative loafing. And we, you know, we're 3rd place, and we've been having a lot of amazing guests.
Joanna Grosso:And, basically, the concept of our show is we have people that come on in the Tampa Bay area that are entrepreneurs, leadership leaders in their community, all sorts of walks of life that are also LGBTQ. We are actually the only radio show in Tampa Bay that is LGBTQ centered, and we also have a trans woman on our side, Angela Russell, who is a very well known drag queen in the Tampa Bay area. Chris Gorman, a young gay college student he was up for years old who was amazing, knows everything, every button on that board, he knows what he's doing. And also Brian Hankson, who is another gay man. He is a softball coach in the area, who is just, like, the most loving, most amazing man I've ever met.
Joanna Grosso:Such a safe person. Like, you you can just tell, like, this is such a safe space. Definitely a more soft scoping one and just kind of like the voice of reason. You have such an amazing show, and I'm just so grateful to be a part of that show. And I found out about you guys because one day, I was just I I started to start my sailing journey within myself, and I love podcasts.
Joanna Grosso:I've I've always joked that I listen to podcasts until it was cool, back in my 20 8th year. Everyone started listening to podcasts, but I was listening to shows podcasts way back in the day. And I stumbled upon your guys' podcast, and it was weird because it it felt like a safe it is a safe place. I could tell. But just like your voices were very calming, and just all the little guests that you guys had come on, and the use of reading cards, I thought was really cool.
Joanna Grosso:And I just love what you guys are doing, And it is kind it is very cool for the to be able to listen to you guys. And then one day, I was like, you know, I just could reach out. You never know. I'm like, I could reach out and see what happens. And then almost immediately, you guys hit me back, and they were like, yeah.
Joanna Grosso:Come on. I was like, okay. Perfect. So, yeah, that's why I'm here. And I it's just that it was definitely a dream to come on and grateful to be here.
Emily:Oh, love having you. Yeah. You know, as you were talking about, kind of the way you got into it, very lightheartedly, and we were talking in our pre chat about manifestation, and and your kind of fresh perspective on manifestation. Well, it's funny because when you first brought that up and you were talking about how, you know, you didn't really think anything of it, it was kinda just this thing, it reminded me of the spaghetti manifestation technique that, that, our beloved Steve came up with that Lisa and I are often talking about where you kind of you you know, you you have passion for the thing. You you love doing it.
Emily:You put yourself in the energy of it, but then you just kinda let it let it go. You just kinda let it go. And you treat it very lightly, and then low and behold, your manifestation happens, you know, as long as you kinda stay in the same, stay in the the right energy of of what it is you're trying to manifest. It it, it comes about for you. So I thought that was cool.
Joanna Grosso:Yeah. Definitely came to fruition. And, like, I was telling you guys also off air, like, I'm like, this now now that this is coming about and I'm getting more traction and I'm meeting people and I'm coming on different shows and I'm being asked to come on different shows, I'm like, okay, this could actually be something. You know? Like, they always talk everyone always talks about, like, you know, your dream and your dream job and, like, what that is and you know what I mean?
Joanna Grosso:But just I think it's finally starting to happen. And it's like sometimes I'm like, what's the word? It's almost like, imposter syndrome. Like, I don't
Lisa:Oh, yeah.
Joanna Grosso:I almost feel like it's it's I I don't deserve for this to happen to me that this could affect my dream to come through. But now through healing, through therapy, through manifestation, through a little bit of deep breathing as well, I'm learning that, like, good things can happen today and I know it's done, you know.
Emily:Yeah. Totally.
Lisa:Do. Yeah. So, listeners, yeah, we were talking in our pre chat and we found out there's 3 generations being represented here. I'm with the Gen Xers, Emily.
Joanna Grosso:Old millennial.
Lisa:Enter me.
Emily:I have to classify old millennial because
Lisa:Elder elder millennial. Yeah.
Joanna Grosso:And I'm and I'm your Gen z bestie over here.
Lisa:Yeah. Gen z bestie. And that's gonna be we're coining that. Yeah. I love that so much.
Lisa:You're good. How you recognize the different perspectives that are being brought to your radio show and just the bandwidth of collaboration that you have, cultivated together is really very cool.
Joanna Grosso:Yeah. Definitely. We have a lot of a lot of different personalities, and you can kind of identify yourself with each person, whether, you know, if you're trans listening to our show, we have a trans woman, like I was saying, if you're gay, if you're bisexual, if you're curious, and it's it's all it's criminal service pretty much. So so
Lisa:That is so cool. I love it so much. I love the energy too, and we're big fans of music, Emily and I. So, everything I'm sure you've heard when you listen to us, we sing a lot. Yes.
Lisa:Everything, are one of our going jokes, that we were gonna share with you when we were talking in the chat is, so music music has its therapeutic qualities to it. And as we know, so many people right now are glued to their television and radios and devices, learning about some, very scary real things that are happening in our nation and worldwide. And, music has this ability to help raise vibrations and, the therapeutic effect. And I had written down in one of my notes, Emily and I, you know, have a going notebook over here on my end where I'm taking notes on what we're doing. And I wrote down therapy DJ.
Lisa:So we had this, little little side tab. We were like, how cool would it be, like, in therapy practice if there was, like, a DJ to go along with?
Joanna Grosso:Yeah. Yeah.
Lisa:Because I missed my calling. Yeah. Therapy DJ. You're I'm sure Joanna knows someone that could implement that, has the energy and the and the bandwidth as a Gen zer. Oh, yeah.
Lisa:Yeah.
Joanna Grosso:Yeah. Yeah. Definitely. Definitely. Listen, music music is so great because it doesn't it it it's all demographic.
Joanna Grosso:Anybody can look into it. It's like all different kinds of music. Like, for example, like, EDM or, like, for dance music. It's one of those things a lot of people assume that it's, like, for young people with ravers and, like, the party community. But listen, there's there's some old people out there, like, you know, older generations coming into these concerts and, like, just hanging out and head banging and everything like that.
Joanna Grosso:And so Yeah. I I love that it's it's just universal, and anybody can do it. Anybody can love it. You know?
Lisa:Yeah. We have a big, big music community here in Saint Petersburg, Florida. In EDM, I know there's I'm always being invited to festivals and that type of thing around here. Yeah. And I think when you're sort of considering, like, escape mechanisms Yeah.
Emily:Music is probably one of the, healthier outlets for that. You know?
Joanna Grosso:Yeah. It's really funny because a lot of people because I also I work in radio as well. Like, if I work I this is, like, kind of working on the show is, like, a hobby, and then I also work through some people talk to video shows, which is actually the creative station. So a lot of people, they a lot of people kind of assume that I'm, like, love love music because I work in radio, which I do. I do love music.
Joanna Grosso:But growing up, I was very shy, and I didn't really know how to talk to a lot of people. Like, there was something kind of missing, and I I don't really know how to describe it. I still to this day, when I'm talking when I'm talking to my therapist, I can't describe it. But, like, I'm talking, like, 7, 6 years old. I I was really smart sitting with my friends.
Joanna Grosso:I couldn't communicate. I didn't understand social cues. So when I would be on the bus going to school, I would be listening to music. Right? And then there would there would be this top radio DJ that would be able to come out and interview for my baby.
Joanna Grosso:And I actually learned how to communicate with people listening to pop radio, NPR, Howard Stern. And I always I always joke that, like, radio kind of saved my life because I don't know where I would be if it wasn't for learning these skills based on hearing an old man that I never knew or I never knew we were just on the bus 7 years old sitting by myself. So thanks to music, because I probably wouldn't be listening to, you know, those shows, learning how to communicate if it wasn't for music. So I I give I owe my life almost to communication and broadcasting and music. Oh, I
Lisa:love that so much. Well, what do you say, ladies? I'm gonna pull a few cards just to get a read on what the collective energy is, and, also what is the energy that we can share from our 3 generations and from our life perspective and experience with our listeners to help people transmute and uplift this energy that they may be experiencing right now. Sound good?
Joanna Grosso:Sounds great.
Lisa:Okay. Yeah. Let's do
Joanna Grosso:it.
Lisa:So, again, I'm using the I Ching. Yeah. And I'm glad that you enjoy that part of it too, Joanna. It's it's just good to give you, like, a higher level perspective, something outside of yourself and releasing your ego. So please share with us what is the energy around our conscious collaboration collective.
Joanna Grosso:Please release my ego. I definitely need it. Yeah. Release it. Put it away from me.
Lisa:Alright. So the energy around our collective right now is this is pertinent to us. Does that look like a tornado or a hurricane?
Emily:It does. It sure does.
Lisa:It's the energy of innocence. So that's hexagram 25, and we'll talk a little Emily and I have seen that before, and we'll talk a little bit more. It's the energy of sky above and thunder below. So hexagram 25. You can write down hex
Joanna Grosso:I know.
Lisa:Hexagram 25 so you can Google this later and get some more insights. And then the forward information that we want to, lend our insights from are different, generations and perspectives is the energy of returning. This is pretty. This is very, like does that look like ice castle or frozen or This is the one that
Emily:I always see this.
Joanna Grosso:I was just about to stepping me off right now.
Emily:You can say it. Our interpretations of the of the visuals on the card are often maybe not,
Lisa:not just both conventional. That's why we use, the artwork in in learning about the energies here and the interpretations. It's really helpful for people that are new to reading just to get that, pulling the energy. So there's a ton of change lines between these 2 hexagrams. 25 shifting to 24.
Lisa:Now they're right next to each other in the sequence. So there are 64 hexagrams. So it's interesting. 25 shifting to 24. There's 1, 2, 3, 3 top line, changes happening means from the heavens to, the earth.
Lisa:Divine, interaction going on, so impacting us. This is higher, higher self influence. So this is really significant what what the collective is experiencing and how we can share some of the insight. So what people are feeling right now is the hallmark of innocence is a willingness to reach to treat all creatures with compassion and respect. Wow.
Lisa:So that's amazing. Yeah. Because that mean a lot to you right now.
Emily:Following, you know, following such a tragedy. Yeah. Like, that's that's, you know, the the bright spots that you see happening right now if you are, you know, like us and glued to your social media and, and all the videos of, you know, kind of feels like we're in a little cage a little bit. Like, we know what's what's going on on the perimeters. And it's like, we can't get there.
Emily:We can't touch it. But, but, yeah, you you start to see that that compassion, and that collaboration, in the community coming coming forward.
Joanna Grosso:Yeah. I think I think I would say a little bit differently. It's like, so when you see the resistance that I mentioned earlier, I'm on my healing journey right now. Feeling a lot of, like, interpersonal trauma, generational trauma. And I think that like my innocence is constantly coming up when I'm talking to my therapist about like how a lot of times I thought things were very normal in my childhood, and then I'm kind of learning that they were actually very much the opposite of normal, and it kind of skewed my innocence very much.
Joanna Grosso:And I think now, even now, as you would say, I do kind of have almost like a childlike outlook on that. I'm very hopeful. So, I try to be very hopeful for a lot of things. And I think when it ties into your innocence, I think that it's best to deep dive as much as you possibly can. Even if it's somatic and even if it's hard, I think we all still have the innocence in us, and I think it definitely can blow you.
Lisa:Yeah. Yeah. You know what what I find interesting is the depicted on
Lisa:the card of innocence
Lisa:is of like a tornado hitting some trees or a hurricane, bending some trees in the wind. And the colors are very much like as you said, Joanna, it's the colors of self self journey, career, life purpose. So it's that deep dark blue and the swirls and that and that deep water energy. So going looking deep within and reflecting. But innocence, is there's a little bit of blush tone in here too, that pastel in the very center of the hurricane, near the eye of the storm.
Lisa:But innocence in itself is very, it's it's a place of joy, wonder, and awe. It's that place that we always try to return to as we're growing and evolving, and it's we're just as influential as we are influenced in that place of I
Joanna Grosso:love that.
Lisa:Innocence. So.
Emily:Yeah. Well, I mean think about a child. They're they're so influential, especially when they say something profound, you know and you're just like how where did that come from?
Joanna Grosso:I'm like, where did you hear that from?
Lisa:Yeah. Pureness. Yeah.
Joanna Grosso:Yeah. Yeah. Uh-huh.
Lisa:It's, so it it talks about from the very top line, which is the top of the hexagram, the the 6 lined image that you see when you Google this, it talks about if an innocent action can backfire if the timing is not right for progress. When there is little hope in a situation, the best thing to do is to wait as calmly as possible. Otherwise, you you run the risk of creating additional trouble for yourself and others. So I think people wonder what the collective is experiencing right now, terms of when to act and
Lisa:how much they
Lisa:should do. I immediately start thinking about courts, all of all of the volunteers jumping in to help, but when you think like, who do I call and what do I cut away and what do I throw away and what do I record? That's the type of frenzy that that I think about. So really being just like, you know, big picture and innocence, we can be very emotional, but we really need that, that strategic support. People around us to guide us, to make sure that we're not moving out of a great storm of emotion.
Joanna Grosso:Definitely. Yeah. I definitely think that that's super important. And, like, also, like, I mentioned, like, asking for help. I think a lot of people, myself included, have a lot of agents asking for help.
Joanna Grosso:Yes. Because I think a lot of times people correlate asking for help with, vulnerability and weakness. And that's kind of something that I was kind of raised on. It's like you kind of just when the building gets tough, you get tougher. And you kind of just you you it's hard to it's hard to learn other people because you don't
Lisa:know how much is
Joanna Grosso:too much and how much is a burden and how much, you know, that can kind of backfire as people can easily get to do. So, I know we've been raised that, like, yourself is your biggest, you know, your biggest cheerleader, and the the only person that's gonna get you out of something is yourself. And I think that's really great, and I think that's awesome, but then look at what's going on in the world right now, and people have no homes and people, you know, don't have a place to live or to sleep at night or to shower, to go to work, and it's like, okay. But this is asking for help is actually it shows okay. My cat is getting here.
Joanna Grosso:Asking for help actually shows strength. I agree. Yeah.
Emily:I was just, I was just talking with a friend of mine whose business was severely affected. And I I literally was saying the same things to her. And I said, you know, if you ask for help, you're not taking help away from other people who need it. Because it was kinda like, oh, but everybody needs it. Everybody you know, there's people who need it more and da, da, da.
Emily:No, no, no. If you ask for help and you rally your own troops who want to help you, they just need to know how, you're also giving other people permission to do the same thing.
Joanna Grosso:Mhmm. Yeah.
Lisa:I think it is showing a a big example of strength. And also, it's just, you know, so many people want to do help, and we know the power of mind intentions and making improvements. Mhmm. That in a situation like this, you don't wanna do something peacefully or injure yourself or, isolate yourself in any way. The 4th line talks about, remember, if something truly belongs to or with you, it cannot really be taken from you.
Lisa:So let go of it. And if it is yours, it will naturally return.
Emily:It's a lot to be let go of right about now, isn't there?
Lisa:Mhmm. Yeah. So it's a a lot of, you know, resolving attachments with things and places and, comforts. And, so symbolically and in reality, people are facing those very real
Lisa:decisions right now. Yeah. And sorry. I feel like I'm just I feel like this
Lisa:is like therapy and, I I it's crazy.
Joanna Grosso:Like, I feel like this is like therapy and I I it's crazy. Like, this is really, really feeling like I more than you guys will ever know, but, like, talking about, like, what was meant for you. I think a lot of times and we talked about, like, the other thing earlier on there about the rat race with with professional and financial and social. I feel like a lot of times, especially with me, I'm very much a worrier. And I worry, especially when, like, when there's a line drawn in the sand, I'm like, okay, you can go down this path or you can go down this path.
Joanna Grosso:And sometimes, especially, like, with me being a dead goose person, I sometimes get worried about my future and about what that will look like. I'm like, okay, like, if I choose to go down this path, my life will look completely different. And what if I regret that path? And what if I wish I went down this path? And, like, I can't go back.
Joanna Grosso:And it's like, you saying, like, what is basically what you're saying is, like, what will what is meant for you is meant for you. Your path is already written out for you. It doesn't matter what happens. You already have almost like a destiny that's already there established for you. And it's that's kind of, like, what's making me feel like, you know, I shouldn't I shouldn't worry because whatever is meant for me is meant for me, and whatever is not will be taken away.
Lisa:Yeah. It's drawn to you as much as you are drawn to it. So if you let go of it in one form, it's gonna come to you in another. Yeah. Yeah.
Emily:I think I have to say too when I was 26, I wasn't nearly there yet mentally either. So I think you're I think you're pretty well ahead
Joanna Grosso:of the game. Well, I feel the
Lisa:Gen zers are. Like, I feel like that Gen z knows to be looking for life purpose versus job. You know? So they're they're really feeling and sensing intuitively, I'm not in alignment with who I am or where I should be. And correct me if I'm wrong, Joanna, but the couple of Gen Fears that I have in in my circle, my apprentices are, you know, they will walk away, from something that doesn't feel aligned, whether it's a job or friends and go to where there is nothing that they know just to get away from something that doesn't feel right.
Lisa:So
Joanna Grosso:Yeah. I I think with I think that's an amazing power, like, a superpower that I think our generation has been able to take on, walking away from something that doesn't that doesn't suit us. I didn't I didn't go I got my dream job, like, up 2 years ago. I was working in social media. I was a social media coordinator for a clothing brand company here in Clearwater, and I was like, this is it.
Joanna Grosso:This is, like, my job. This is how I'm gonna get ripped. And so I'm gonna, like, mix, you know, size g wagons and everything like that. And then a month in, I literally was like, this is the worst thing ever. I hate it.
Joanna Grosso:I hate it. I hate it. I hate it. I'm like, okay. And I was talking to my mom.
Joanna Grosso:I was like, mom, I'm out. I'm done. And she's like, and my mom is, like, 65. My mom's a little bit older, and she's just like, you guys are not gonna be she's like, what's gonna happen to your next employer? Your next employer is gonna see that you've only been working there for a month.
Joanna Grosso:That's that's not gonna look good on your resume. I'm like, guess what? I don't care. I'm not happy. I'm and my my boss is weird.
Joanna Grosso:I'm like, I'm sorry. It looks even weirdo. He's making me feel uncomfortable. I'm not gonna sit here and make and make myself feel uncomfortable, make someone else feel comfortable. Sorry.
Joanna Grosso:Go find some I'll get 2 weeks. Goodbye. And I felt no shame from it. Will the did I have a little bit of, like, a crisis 2 months later? And I was like, was I supposed to do this?
Joanna Grosso:And I was like, you know what? I wasn't happy. You know? And I think that's great. It it's the same thing with, like, friendship.
Joanna Grosso:You know? Like, I have no problem cutting and also, I'm from New York. I think it's also also the New Yorker in me. We're very thoughtful about that forward. Thing too.
Emily:Definitely the air sign power.
Lisa:Yeah. You do
Joanna Grosso:me once you do me once wrong with that. I'm just kidding. No. But, I have no problem walking away from friendships that don't suit me. Is it hard?
Joanna Grosso:Of course. But, like, also, I I see I have I have certain stares when it comes to people treating me a certain way. You're not gonna you're not gonna walk a little over. You're not gonna treat me a certain way. You know?
Emily:Yeah. Healthy boundaries, baby.
Joanna Grosso:Yeah. You're right. I do. That's one thing. Yeah.
Joanna Grosso:They work for me.
Lisa:Yeah. And it's just that no fear for the unknown. I think a lot of that is a gift of innocence, not having too much. You have a little bit of natural fear of things being unknown, but you're not being found by, like, years of experience and, you know, mistakes of of really thinking, like, if I let go of this, it's gonna you know, so you hold on to things too long, in that instance.
Joanna Grosso:Yeah. Definitely.
Emily:Yeah. I think we were kind of, you know, raised, and I guess it's been progressively maybe, you know, improving with the generations, but, you know, we were sort of raised with this, like, you're you're bound to the benefits kinda thing. You know what I mean? Like, oh, you better not let go with this job. You got the good insurance and you got this and that.
Emily:And and people will find themselves 40, 50 years in to a job that they hate and, you know, losing their sense of purpose altogether in the, you know, just in the name of the rat race, like you were saying, you know, because it's got the benefits, the benefits. And it's like, benefits don't make you whole Happy. Or happy. And stability isn't even real. No way.
Emily:You know, the the idea of stability within a job is not even real. And I think that's just becoming more and more apparent with every passing generation, you know, and every natural disaster, and every economic crash, and every war, and, you know, all these things. This idea of, oh, but it's stable. It's not even it's not even real. So what are we throwing our lives and our energy into I
Lisa:love it. And we don't love it. Yeah. The Gen zers are really bringing that fresh perspective, and, like, we see that. And I think that helps us to remember our own in a sense.
Lisa:And, the hexagram 24 talks about returning, which is the returning itself in this case, recharging yourself, and this brings eventual success. So the forward energy for the collective is eventual success. It's at reuniting with our core self. It talks about the momentum is just beginning. It's a turnaround that requires your energy to be recharged by adding Mhmm.
Lisa:Success, and not depleted prematurely. So I you know, just for everybody out there, everybody wants to do something to help people around them, but also make sure that
Emily:you're Put on your own oxygen mask first. Fill your cup first. Make sure it is overflowing so that you have plenty to go out and serve and give with.
Lisa:Yes. Period.
Lisa:Period. Yeah.
Joanna Grosso:I'm like, period queen. Period.
Lisa:I like that. Do you agree with that, Joanna?
Joanna Grosso:A 100%. Because I I also it's just the same thing with, like, how they always say, like, oh, you can't love somebody until you love yourself. I think and I think that, I think that I I can't give my 100% when I'm only at, like, a 40. And I even even and I've tried. I've tried.
Joanna Grosso:I I'm the type of person that if I literally have 0 like, if I have, like, a penny, I'm giving you that penny. And I've always I've always loved to help people even when I have nothing, but now going through the sewing journey, I'm, like, learning that, like, I need to be a little selfish, and I need to put myself first. And I just and then I as much as, like, my parents, who I love so much, as much as they want me to be a corporate girly, be in the office, and, like, you know, like, have my cute little cubicle and, like, have something, like, sitting off every year. Like, I am realizing that I can't give that to them because I have dreams beyond that, that I'm gonna have to work harder. I'm gonna have to maybe hit my thirties and not, like, have everything figured out.
Emily:Oh my gosh. Does anybody actually do that? Is that even a real thing
Lisa:that you hit 30 and you have it figured out?
Joanna Grosso:I think that's 30. I don't know. Like, 30 is like this looming thing that's over all of our heads right now. We always talk about I talk about my with my girlfriends too. I'm, like, 30.
Joanna Grosso:We're supposed to have everything figured out. We're supposed to be married and children and, like, a 4 zero one k and stuff like that. Like, that's kinda pretty. That's a lot.
Emily:Hey. But sneak preview, thirties were pretty awesome. Yeah. 30 like, I remember feeling in my twenties, like, 30 felt, you know, I it always feels like older to think of the next coming decade. But then, like, in my thirties, I was like, oh, wow.
Emily:This is so much better. Even without all my things together. I I'm 40, and I don't have
Joanna Grosso:it all together. Yeah. My mom said, I have my mom one time. I was like, when was, like, your speed? Like, when do you think you felt so hot, like, you loved yourself the most?
Joanna Grosso:And she goes, early forties. Like, literally, like, just off the head. And I was like, why? I'm like, why? Why the forties should, like, you know, know who you are.
Joanna Grosso:You have you should be like, typically, you have money. Like, typically, you have a good amount of money saved. You can travel. You have the energy. It's just like incredible.
Joanna Grosso:I was hot when I was 40. I was like, alright. I become 40.
Emily:I think it's just you're hitting this point where you, like, you really started to sort out, like, what matters, what does not matter. And a lot of stuff that mattered in previous decades, you're like, why did I ever care about that? You know? And, but it sounds like you're starting to sort that out much earlier, to be honest. So
Joanna Grosso:I'm try I'm I'm definitely fine because I'm seeing a lot of people my age and a little bit older getting under this black race, especially socially, which is destroying them from the inside out. And I'm trying to get I I really wish we could talk about this thing. I wish
Lisa:I wish we could
Joanna Grosso:sit here and talk for, like, 2 hours, girl. I was I would tell you everything's going on in the city.
Lisa:You can do a part. You could
Emily:always come back. Absolutely. Yeah.
Joanna Grosso:It's it's so it's funny because people don't talk about, like, this not stigma, but, like, people don't talk about this, like, urgency of, like, having to be at the coolest club, the coolest tables, like, be hang out with the coolest people, being on the coolest boat. It's, like, they don't teach you that about how to, like, go home at 3 o'clock in the morning and don't stay out till 6 AM. Like, it's and it's hard to say no to a lot of things, especially when things are being thrown at you, all the glitz and the glam. And then it's, like, it's screwing up your day to day life because all you think about is wanting to go out on the weekend. That's, like, a whole other thing that, like, people talk about.
Emily:Do you think that an event like this could, kind of put almost a hard stop on that for a lot of people? Do you think that this could be, like, something that quick fast changes that perspective for a lot of people? Just just the gravity of it, you know? The hierarchy. Altogether?
Emily:Yeah. Mhmm. Mhmm.
Joanna Grosso:No. I actually don't believe that because I, like, I don't know if you're a person, but, like, I have a really large friend group in I have a really large friend group in in Stacy, all different walks of life, all different people, all different agents, and I have been asking them, like, hey, let's, like, let's hang out, let's, you know, help out the community, and all people are thinking, especially in this party beach town, they are only thinking about when the people are gonna be able to go, like, drink at the beach. You know what I mean?
Emily:And so
Joanna Grosso:I'm hoping I'm hoping that maybe with my influence, inside influence there's there's some people that I've gotten to help out, but a lot of times and and honestly, it kinda sucks. People are only thinking about themselves, especially nowadays, especially in my generation. It's very, very selfish. It's very selfish. And I I think there are other things
Lisa:Maybe a little
Emily:over correcting on the, on the filling their own cup.
Joanna Grosso:Yeah. Yeah. It's almost too much. And it's, like, that's why that's why I think back in the day, it was so hard to make the connection to people. I feel like I almost, like I don't know.
Joanna Grosso:It's just it's really weird, but I almost felt like I knew it was gonna be really hard for me to connect to people because I think I think very different, like, than most people my age. And I almost feel like I've had it informed to a lot of people, and that I would I don't know if this is my therapist as well, and I feel like a lot of people also relate to this. I almost feel like I perform for people. I feel like sometimes I have, like, been manufactured to act a certain way and be a certain type of person. People pleasing whatever you want to fit into the regular norm of what my age group is doing nowadays.
Joanna Grosso:And I'm trying to get out of that and break the break the out of that.
Lisa:Wow. I love that. You know, we we do a lot of talk with our guests about, authenticity and really connecting in with your true self. But just in talking with you today, Joanna, I think to your benefit, it's it's good to collaborate with people of different generations so that Yeah. You're able to bring more of your influence to your group.
Lisa:And they'll be like, wow, Joanna really has it all together, like, and she can still have fun in a very balanced way. So that's the benefit. We talk a lot about having people, like, a few steps behind you and a few steps ahead of you doing already what you desire to do.
Joanna Grosso:Yeah.
Lisa:That like shared learning and wisdom experience. But Mhmm. I had no idea. Actually, I didn't know
Lisa:the St. Pete scene was such
Lisa:a, seen and be seen. And I'm so far removed from it. I'm gonna be 47 here in a couple of months. So I those days for me are long gone.
Joanna Grosso:And it's it's definitely it it depends on the, you know, the ability that you are who you hang out with. So naturally, if you hang out with certain certain types of people, you are gonna become so it's certain type and every listen. There's good there's good and bad with everything in that. I'm not saying that the the state can't see the campus school. It's so but you also have to look at, like, there's colleges.
Joanna Grosso:It's all college students. It's all younger people. People escaping from their day to day lives, and they live up more. They're coming down here. They're being different people.
Joanna Grosso:Things are happening, and it's like, you know, I I'm so grateful for everyone that I've met down here, and I'm so grateful to be able to do the things that I do. I just think that it's I'm kind of going in this metamorphosis that, like, it's time it's it's the hard stuff. I need to do something else. I need to give back to the community. I need to make a voice.
Joanna Grosso:I need to have a platform for people that can come on and talk to me and talk about, you know, what they're going through. I'm sweating. I love
Lisa:that. I love that so much, Joanne. And you have access to a microphone and a wide audience right now. How can people reach out to you and find you besides we'll have you back for a part 2 at some point, but in the meantime, where can people find you? How can they listen to your show, connect with you?
Joanna Grosso:Yeah. So my, my Instagram is johoney s, j o h o n e y s s. I have a TikTok as well where I have to go on
Lisa:and do some rants, and I have, like, a walk in closet I like to sit in and just, like, rant about stuff. So my my TikTok is the people versus Joe, and then my the big the big gay radio show Instagram is just the big gay radio show and you can listen to us on all Spotify Podcasts Apple Music Stitcher all that kind of fun stuff and you can also listen to us live 88.5 WMNF Tampa from 12 AM to 3 AM on Thursdays. Amazing.
Emily:You really got your radio station voice on there.
Lisa:I noticed that I was like, oh girl. I'm down. Love it. Love it. It.
Lisa:Loved it. I really I admire that. I like that a lot. Well, Joanna, it's been amazing to have you. We're gonna invite you inside of our closed and private Facebook group if you ever hang out there.
Lisa:We would love to have you, and, we'll link your information in the description box. I wanna thank all the listeners for tuning in and listening to our 3 generations jam out, and we'll continue at some other time. Any last words, ladies? Just wanna say thank you, ladies, so much. It was actually, this has, like, been really awesome, very healing, and I just appreciate you.
Lisa:And thank you so much for letting me on the show today. Lovely to have you. Yes. Thank you. It was very healing.
Lisa:I think it was a very needed conversation, so thank you so much. And, yeah. Thank you. It's good to see you again, Emily. Glad you made it through the storm okay also.
Emily:Yes, ma'am.
Lisa:Alright. Well, everybody yeah. Thank you for liking, sharing, and subscribing to our podcast. You guys are keeping us alive here at the Conscious Collaboration podcast, and we'll talk to you in 5.
Emily:Talk to y'all in 5. Bye. Bye.
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