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Melissa Shere Beek:We've got to keep learning, keep growing, keep being. I'm Melissa Beak, and this is Beek on Being. Today's episode is Beek on Being and Holistic Healing. We are comprised of every experience, every memory, our interpretations of those memories, our environment, and our relationships. All of it affects our complete health and well-being.
Melissa Shere Beek:When we talk about personal healing, we talk about addressing the entirety of a person, not just a specific part or aspect, promoting emotional, physical, and psychological well-being. The mind, body, and spirit are all connected, making sure they are always balanced and focusing on their interconnectedness is the approach of holistic healing. Today, we talked to two energy medicine practitioners, Susan Hallie and Maina Campos, because we have lots of questions and they and our bodies have the answers. So please introduce yourselves and tell our listeners a little bit about you.
Susan Hally:Okay. Well, firstly, Melissa, thank you so much for inviting us to be on your podcast.
Melissa Shere Beek:Oh my g-d. My pleasure.
Susan Hally:And Maina and I are really excited to come here and talk about what we do and what we love. And so my name is Susan Hally and I am a holistic practitioner, integrative medicine. And I've been studying this modalities for over two decades.
Melissa Shere Beek:Wow.
Susan Hally:And I love what I do, and I've been, you know, learning and and teaching and practicing this for many, you know, decades. I started as a yoga teacher in early two thousands, and and that was a wellspring for me to learn about different modalities, essential oils, meditation, you know, moving your body, really all important things. Yeah. And, I had an acupuncturist on Miami Beach, doctor Janica Lipo, and I would go for some sessions. I was a mom, so, of course, we always had so much stress, right, as moms and running around.
Susan Hally:And, doctor Janet would always invite me to her, classes that she was teaching body talk at the time. And so I would start taking modules and I met lovely Mina and we, you know, just started going through all the modules and fast forward, I got certified and in, body talk medicine, and I worked in a clinic on Miami Beach in To Be Healthy, doctor Janet's clinic, and we saw all sorts of things. Right? We we worked with many patients and yeah. So now I am a teacher of the medicine of body mind medicine, and body talk has become body intuitive.
Susan Hally:And so, you know, I incorporate many different modalities in my sessions. Uh-huh. We work remotely. We work, in person.
Melissa Shere Beek:Mhmm.
Susan Hally:And we both love to teach. We've taught many classes together. And, yes, so I'm here to talk about all the things.
Melissa Shere Beek:I'm excited. I can't wait to hear about everything. Yeah.
Maina Campos:And I'm Maina Campos, and I met Susan at one of these clinics with Janet Galipo. And when I was about 17 years old, I had gallstones. And I remember going to the emergency room and them telling me that the only way to heal was to remove my gallbladder. And I just was like, no. There's gotta be another way.
Maina Campos:Like, my gallbladder is not there for some random reason. And I went for two other opinions, and they also told me that the only way to heal was to have my gallbladder removed at 17 years old.
Melissa Shere Beek:Wow.
Maina Campos:And I couldn't believe it, but thankfully, one of my best friends at the time, Julia, her mom, Janet Galipo, doctor Janet Galipo, I asked her, oh, Janet, do you think there's any way acupuncture can help me? And she said, yes. Of course. Come in. And at the time, she was learning body talk.
Maina Campos:Wow. And I had told her I was really scared of needles. And so she said, let me just try this tapping thing on you. And she practiced, the body talk on me. Instead of doing needles, she gave me herbs.
Maina Campos:With the body talk, she found out that I had an intolerance to dairy, which at the time, this was, like, back in the earth, like, nineties, so it wasn't a big thing like it is now.
Melissa Shere Beek:It wasn't as common.
Maina Campos:Mhmm. It really wasn't. And so then as soon as I stopped having any dairy products and started doing all of the different herbs and then doing the body talk, and then she also invited me to classes and to start learning it for myself, that's where I met Susan, then I was able to heal. And I would have these awful gallbladder attacks that would shoot up from my gallbladder on the right side lower quadrant all the way up through my shoulders, like, very, very painful. And I I knew it wasn't a heart attack because was on my right side, not my left.
Maina Campos:And but it was really it also caused, like, anxiety and panic attacks. Sure. And so after three months of doing all the changes that we had talked about, detoxing, eating brown rice, like going on a macrobiotic diet, I was able to heal myself. And I was so dumbfounded. I was just like, wow.
Maina Campos:How is this even possible that all of these doctors, like, authority figures that had told me Mhmm. Like, this is the only way. Only solution. Yeah. And it and it wasn't.
Maina Campos:And so I think I made it, like, a conviction in my life to learn about this and to also spread the knowledge and the teachings that there are other ways that we can take care and heal ourselves.
Melissa Shere Beek:So I was gonna ask how you were inspired to become a holistic healer, but clearly, that's that's it. Can you tell our listeners what being a holistic healer means? Like, the definition of what holistic healing is?
Susan Hally:Well, I would say holistic healing is treating the whole body. Right? So lots of times we'll have patients come into the clinic and they will come in with like, I have back pain or I have knee pain, right? And then we don't just treat the symptom, right? We treat the whole body because there's always a story behind your Pain.
Susan Hally:Symptoms. Yeah. Right? There's an emotion, there's a story, there's a context, And so, we treat the whole body. We just don't treat the symptom.
Melissa Shere Beek:Got it. Yeah. Okay, so that's the definition of
Maina Campos:Absolutely. We're seeing the whole body as an ecosystem. And when we're talking about, you know, being energy medicine practitioners, we are really looking at the body as a whole. And one of my favorite quotes from doctor James Osman, who wrote a book about and describing, like, the scientific process of energy medicine is that to leave energetic considerations out of medicine is to leave 99.9% of who we are. Right?
Maina Campos:Because as physical beings, we're not just physical. We're multidimensional. We have an emotional body, a mental body, a physical, spiritual body. There's all of these dimensions of who we are. Right.
Maina Campos:So when we're talking about energy medicine, we're looking at you know, we're breaking it's not this woo woo thing. It's like literally breaking down, like, okay, what are our organs? Our organs, when we break it down to the smallest levels and particles and parts, are atoms. And when you break that down even deeper, it's energy.
Melissa Shere Beek:Mhmm.
Maina Campos:Right? And so we're energy fields. And then when we're working with energy medicine, we're working with interrupting the patterns that are stagnant in that specific energy and biofield and, like, how we can work around healing it and how we can work around bringing With in and without. Right. Coherence in and out because it's you know, we're talking about also, like, not only genetics, but epigenetics and also, ancestral patterns, past lives, this life.
Maina Campos:We're talking about all of the different interconnectedness and nature of who we are. Yeah. Right?
Melissa Shere Beek:A 100%. Can you tell us a little bit about the modalities and different therapies you use in your practices?
Maina Campos:Absolutely. So we practice BodyTalk. That's the energy medicine That's
Susan Hally:our main Yeah.
Maina Campos:That brought us together, and then we also practice BodyIntuitive.
Melissa Shere Beek:And can you tell us a little bit more about what BodyTalk and BodyIntuitive are?
Maina Campos:Yep. Okay. They are consciousness based modalities using our body's natural intelligence. Right? So our body have a natural innate wisdom that already knows how to heal itself.
Maina Campos:Right? So we when we talk about it scientifically, we're talking about homeostasis. Right? Our body knows how to regulate itself, but sometimes our body forgets. Or we have a lot of modern day living stresses, and so body talk is a modality that we're using applied kinesiology Mhmm.
Maina Campos:Which is a type of muscle biofeedback.
Melissa Shere Beek:Got it.
Susan Hally:Muscle testing. Right?
Maina Campos:We use neuromuscular biofeedback to find out where the breakdown in communication is within the body mind. So it can be five elements. It can be the five senses. It can be organs, endocrine, body parts. There's a whole map of questions.
Maina Campos:Emotions. That we're asking the body in silence using muscle testing
Susan Hally:Uh-huh.
Maina Campos:To find out where there's breakdown in the communication within the body mind. But the beauty of it is that we, as practitioners, never know where a session is gonna take us.
Melissa Shere Beek:Right. That must be exciting for you, though. It's true.
Maina Campos:It's so fascinating. Like, to this day, I am so passionate and I get so excited, like, in each session because, you know, we think we know what's wrong with the person. Right. Right? But, really, there's a whole story that unfolds, and there's a whole sequence that the body is gonna show us that
Melissa Shere Beek:Body's telling you.
Maina Campos:That's it wants to heal.
Melissa Shere Beek:So can you tell you touched upon the five elements. Excuse me. Can you tell us a little bit more about the five elements in energy medicine?
Susan Hally:Yeah. So I love the five elements
Melissa Shere Beek:Okay. Lay it on us.
Susan Hally:Chinese medicine, we have something called the five element theory. And, you know, some people say, oh, well, what is that? What does that mean? Well, basically, we are very interconnected with nature.
Maina Campos:Mhmm.
Susan Hally:So there's five elements in nature. We have wood and fire, metal, water, and
Maina Campos:Earth. Earth.
Susan Hally:Right? Of course, we can't forget about Mother Earth. Right? And then we have five organ systems.
Melissa Shere Beek:Okay.
Susan Hally:Right? So that's very interconnected. And as we have seasons, even though we might not have seasons here in Florida, although today's
Melissa Shere Beek:a little cold. Right? Today is winter full on.
Susan Hally:Yeah. For us. Our bodies are very similar to that, so we kind of go with the seasons.
Melissa Shere Beek:Can you tell us the elements and the seasons and the emotions, all all the body parts and everything that connects?
Susan Hally:Okay. So for example, right now, we're in water element time.
Melissa Shere Beek:Okay.
Susan Hally:Okay. So the water element addresses, you know, the water system in our body. So that's the kidneys and the bladder, urinary bladder system. And
Maina Campos:In winter.
Susan Hally:And winter. Right. So we're in winter. And so we look at things like deficiencies and excess in the body using muscle testing to balance and get the body into homeostasis.
Melissa Shere Beek:Got it.
Susan Hally:So that's this organ system that's related to water element. Then we have the emotion of overwhelm and fear. So lots of times, people will come in and they'll be, you know, overwhelmed with life and and, you know, their stress and what have you. So we're able to work with the emotions as well.
Melissa Shere Beek:Got it.
Susan Hally:Right? So we break it down with the organs and then, you know, of course, the emotion. So then we have after winter, we come into spring, and that's the wood element. Okay. And so the wood element addresses gallbladder and liver, and the emotion around that could be anger Mhmm.
Susan Hally:Or frustration.
Melissa Shere Beek:Mhmm.
Susan Hally:So we address things like that.
Maina Campos:And we address it because, yes, there can be these emotions of anger and frustration, but then how are we transmuting and transforming So when there are imbalances in the liver and gallbladder, in my case Right. Right? Right. So the gallbladder is always gonna be unexpressed anger. Mhmm.
Maina Campos:Right? So implosion. Mhmm. So, you know That's right. Like, you know, the girls that you have to be nice and not, you know, express your anger and listen to your parents and be obedient.
Maina Campos:Right?
Melissa Shere Beek:Mindful.
Susan Hally:Yeah. All the
Maina Campos:things. Like, be a nice little girl and not really, like, expressing anger. Right? So all of that. Right?
Maina Campos:So with gallstones, that was, like, condensed anger. Right. And somehow
Melissa Shere Beek:No form of expression.
Maina Campos:Right. Exactly. And somehow my body just internalized that, and that was like the gallstone, you know, example there with that wood element. Right? But then to harness that, we're also working with the positive attributes of the elements.
Maina Campos:So in the wood element for the liver and gallbladder, we're talking about planning, strategizing. We're talking about organization. We're talking about all of the different All
Susan Hally:the things, the living Right?
Melissa Shere Beek:All the things.
Maina Campos:So there's there's also spiritual attributes and qualities to all of the elements as well.
Susan Hally:That's true.
Maina Campos:So then we have the wood element. Right? Springtime, like Susan said. And then after the wood element, we have the earth element. Right.
Susan Hally:And so
Melissa Shere Beek:Is that related to summer?
Susan Hally:Well, it is. Earth is a very interesting element.
Maina Campos:Yeah. We're going through this.
Susan Hally:Oh, good.
Melissa Shere Beek:Love that.
Susan Hally:Going through. Right. So Earth is related to the spleen and the stomach. Uh-huh. Right?
Susan Hally:And it's the emotion of anxiety and, you know, when you get someone that's stressed and worry. Right?
Melissa Shere Beek:Yeah.
Susan Hally:It has to do a lot to do with worry. So when we see someone coming in that have stomachaches or
Melissa Shere Beek:Oh, That's always stress.
Susan Hally:Right? And then spleen, like pain on the left side where
Maina Campos:your
Susan Hally:spleen is. Right? The spleen is in charge of our whole blood, you know, production and and circulation and distribution. Right? So it has a big job.
Susan Hally:And so if the spleen is not operating optimally, right, and you come in with your blood work and saying my blood work doesn't look good, we have ways to be able to, you know, ask the body, everybody is different
Melissa Shere Beek:Right.
Susan Hally:And be able to help diffuse and lessen, you know, the stress around whatever that is.
Melissa Shere Beek:Got it.
Susan Hally:And then after that, we have fire element, which is the summer caliente, and that is the heart. And, it's a very interesting, the Chinese, elements are so interesting because, you know, the heart is about, like, love and openness, right, and energy. Right? And so lots of times if someone comes in with an imbalance, you know, of the heart and there's so many things that go under that. Yeah.
Susan Hally:You know, we have ways that we can help with that. And the emotion around that is sadness.
Melissa Shere Beek:Oh. Right? Heavy.
Susan Hally:So But it can also be depression Right. So we can also when we have sadness, we have joy. Right? Right. So So we're always trying to move people into more of a positive emotion.
Melissa Shere Beek:Got it.
Susan Hally:And what else can we say about the fire element?
Maina Campos:Yeah. So the fire element, I think, is one where the energy is very expansive and exuberant. And you can see, like and it's interesting with the five element theory of Chinese medicine. It's like a lot of times with within the Chinese element lingo and acupuncturists are like, oh, that's a fire element person. You can see that they're like qualities
Susan Hally:of heavy, have red faces.
Maina Campos:Red faces. Or they
Susan Hally:get wet.
Maina Campos:Oh, they're very like, they walk into a room and they light the room up. Yeah. Right? It's like a heart centered person that's, like, very passionate. But the, you know, the downside to that is that they can burn the Right?
Maina Campos:So it's like you want It's
Susan Hally:the opposite.
Melissa Shere Beek:You want the balance.
Maina Campos:Yes. You wanna work with balance and moderation and, but then if somebody is, like, too much in their water element, then we wanna bring in those those aspects of the five element Yeah. To warm it up.
Melissa Shere Beek:Got it.
Maina Campos:And that's the whole balance and play and, like, working with the elements to not only nurture, but to help control and to help kind of one feeds into the other. And they're you know, we're not just one element. We're all of the elements. Right. There may be one that can be more dominant.
Susan Hally:Well, everyone does have we'll get to that in a second. But everyone does have a dominant element and a weaker one. Right? So I've always been told I'm more of an earth element person.
Melissa Shere Beek:Mhmm.
Susan Hally:And so I also wanna say about earth element
Melissa Shere Beek:Oh, I wanna know what it is.
Susan Hally:Yeah. Digestive system and your energy or chi Uh-huh. Is, you know, very, based on the earth element. So if someone is, like, exhausted or having fatigue or having digestive issues with the earth element, we will work to help work, you know, balance their digestive system and and their energy levels.
Melissa Shere Beek:Oh, that's fabulous.
Susan Hally:But they also the other thing I wanted to mention is we work on opposites also. So the fire element is opposite water element. So we're in water element time right now.
Melissa Shere Beek:Right.
Susan Hally:And so that's when the fire element is the weakest. So they say that seventy percent of heart attacks happen between the months of December, January, and February in When the fire element is weak. Yes. In water element time.
Melissa Shere Beek:Wow.
Susan Hally:So we wanna also balance the water element with the fire element.
Melissa Shere Beek:Right.
Susan Hally:Right. So that we have homeostasis.
Melissa Shere Beek:Oh, that's perfect.
Maina Campos:I feel like you would be a wood element.
Melissa Shere Beek:Oh, what is a wood element? Tell me.
Maina Campos:I feel like, I feel like liver and gallbladder, I feel like you seem very organized and like very strategic. Yeah. Very strategic. Susan said that you're a great dancer and, like, you like to be in movement. So
Melissa Shere Beek:I like to
Susan Hally:Yeah. Those are qualities. And that's the tendo muscular system too, the wood elements. Yeah.
Maina Campos:I feel like she would be and also the color that you're wearing and the fact that you
Melissa Shere Beek:love My favorite color. Yes.
Maina Campos:Well, green is the color for For wood.
Melissa Shere Beek:I’m always in the trees.
Maina Campos:Yep. So a lot of times wood brushes.
Susan Hally:Think that you're right. I think she
Maina Campos:is I think it's your most dominant element which is a great, you know, great element to be. They're all they're all amazing. They're all amazing.
Melissa Shere Beek:A little bit of everything would be perfect.
Susan Hally:Do you like to stay up late at night? It depends. Because reading the are book night owls. Yeah. I always say that.
Melissa Shere Beek:They like stay up late. Book Yeah. I'm reading a good book and I can't I can't put it down, then that's it.
Maina Campos:I'm up.
Melissa Shere Beek:I'm up. Yeah. I think I am up at night.
Susan Hally:So you're yeah. I think you're right. I think what element is You thought I had to gamble in
Maina Campos:shirt. Yeah.
Melissa Shere Beek:Oh, I like that.
Maina Campos:And, also, usually, we wear the colors of the elements that we are just, like Natural.
Melissa Shere Beek:Okay. Now I'm curious. What elements are you two?
Maina Campos:So I think What do you feel is
Melissa Shere Beek:your dominant element?
Maina Campos:She I know she I when you said earth and I'll I'm also I'm earth and also fire.
Susan Hally:Yeah.
Maina Campos:Yeah. So people always say earth and fire. Yeah. And then if I'm in work mode, people think I'm wood element. But Yeah.
Melissa Shere Beek:It's funny because I when you said fire, I thought it was a little bit of fire, but then I was thinking more of, like, I'm a Leo and I have a tendency. So, like, I felt like a little bit, but I fire sounds good too.
Susan Hally:I could
Melissa Shere Beek:see wood sounds good too.
Maina Campos:I could see wood fire.
Susan Hally:Yeah. She's outgoing.
Maina Campos:Wood fire. Yes. You love to dance. You're out going.
Melissa Shere Beek:I'm outgoing with people I love.
Maina Campos:Yeah. Yeah.
Melissa Shere Beek:I have this side of me that I'm I'm always You're
Maina Campos:an introvert. That's like the new I love that.
Melissa Shere Beek:That's the terminology. That's what I am. That's the new terminology. Yeah.
Maina Campos:I love that.
Melissa Shere Beek:When I'm with people that I love and adore You're
Maina Campos:comfortable with them. Yes.
Melissa Shere Beek:Because I feel their energy. And so when I do feel their energy and I feel that that's that's a safe place for me Yeah. Then I'm very extroverted. But most of the time, I'm always behind the scenes, very introverted. I I I like to be home.
Maina Campos:Yeah. And we bounce off of other people's Mhmm. Like energy and their energy fields. Like, it's so interesting when people ask me, like, oh, as an energy medicine practitioner and healer, like, aren't you afraid to pick up other people's stuff?
Susan Hally:Yeah. What happened when someone
Melissa Shere Beek:comes in like that?
Maina Campos:That's like one of when I
Melissa Shere Beek:was because you can feel energy. When someone comes in, you like, I can I will physically move from energy that doesn't suit with me? So you're you're practitioners. What happens when you have a client that comes in with energy that you feel and you could feel from the moment they walk in? What do you do?
Susan Hally:Well, we have a lot of tools and techniques that we use like biogeometry, which I'm wearing today.
Melissa Shere Beek:Both of
Susan Hally:mine and I love our biogeometry.
Maina Campos:And our bracelets and our jewelry are all spiritually balanced jewelry. Protection.
Susan Hally:We love like Palo Santo and, you know, things like that. And
Melissa Shere Beek:So you have a way to protect yourself.
Maina Campos:Yeah. There's
Susan Hally:also a way be working mindscape. Right? So we've learned a technique how we can, like, really just tune in and before we start our day or our sessions Mhmm. We really just, like, protect ourselves and go about, we work we we don't work within ourselves. We kind of, like, just protect the energy and then we, right, and we work as a vehicle.
Susan Hally:Right? And so, like, the work is going through us, but we're really not absorbing
Melissa Shere Beek:Okay. Got it.
Susan Hally:Or attaching to it.
Maina Campos:Right? And I would say that, like, different than Reiki practitioners. So as a Reiki practitioner, you are a channel, and you're channeling
Susan Hally:Yeah.
Maina Campos:Universal energy and through and from your hands. With body talk, we're not channeling anything. We're not receiving and giving in that way intentionally. But what we are doing is tuning into your energy field and asking your body's innate wisdom to balance and restore itself. So it's a little bit different of an intention.
Maina Campos:And, also, when we think about energy medicine and quantum physics, just being in this room together right now, we're all in a quantum entanglement. Yeah. Right? So anytime we walk into a space where we're in a shared space, in a shared room, we're naturally exchanging energy field and energy communication and information with whoever we are in that room. That's why, like, we can either resonate or feel dissonance with people.
Maina Campos:Right? Like, what feels good and what doesn't feel good.
Melissa Shere Beek:Exactly.
Maina Campos:And then you can either choose to take it with you or just like,
Melissa Shere Beek:you know It'll wash off you.
Maina Campos:Yeah. And it's
Susan Hally:the intuitive knowing too. Right?
Maina Campos:This grounding. Yeah. And we have so many techniques and tools to work with that and even other, like, absorb all of it. Absolutely. Yeah.
Maina Campos:We've learned
Susan Hally:tools and techniques. We've taken so many classes
Maina Campos:on how to two decades. Yeah.
Susan Hally:Take our, you know, protect our energy and
Melissa Shere Beek:and Oh, I think you'd have to. Work on Because you come in contact with so much. Yeah.
Susan Hally:But we all do.
Maina Campos:Right? We all do. But, yes, we are going deeper.
Melissa Shere Beek:Aware of it because you're going deeper. Exactly. You're working on that particular person.
Susan Hally:Right.
Maina Campos:And so we're also more aware of the tools and technique of how to transmute it as well. Okay. Yeah. Because it's just energy. Energy can't really be right?
Maina Campos:It can't be destroyed. It can only be changed and transmuted. Mhmm. And so if we're in contact with an energy that is more detrimental. Right?
Maina Campos:So this is from the biogeometry modality that works with balancing environments through biosignatures, shapes, and sounds, and it's a lot of the jewelries that we're wearing to protect EMFs and energy fields. Right. We know that we're not we don't wanna resonate with that energy, and so we then move the pendulum swing to the other spectrum of Got it. Of how to rebalance and come back to b g three, wholeness. Right?
Maina Campos:Because in our in everything, there's going to be wholeness. Even when we're working with our clients
Melissa Shere Beek:Mhmm.
Maina Campos:Right, we're not looking at what's wrong with somebody.
Melissa Shere Beek:Right.
Maina Campos:We are looking at them in their wholeness.
Melissa Shere Beek:Right.
Maina Campos:Right? And I think that's what makes a healer and a practitioner really great Right. Is that we are restoring the blueprint of wholeness and remembering and reminding people
Melissa Shere Beek:Finding balance.
Maina Campos:Because the body knows
Susan Hally:perfect. Yes.
Maina Campos:We're inherently whole, inherently perfect.
Melissa Shere Beek:Right.
Maina Campos:And we're connecting back to that state in that blueprint of that divine connection Right. Of who we are and and Resetting from
Susan Hally:And I love that you say that, Myna, because it's very true that we our bodies have keep the score.
Maina Campos:Right? Yes.
Susan Hally:And remembers every Every virus, every illness, every every emotion, every memory the body remembers. So we go offline sometimes. Right. Right? So it's just rebooting
Melissa Shere Beek:Mhmm.
Susan Hally:And reconnecting
Melissa Shere Beek:I us think said that,
Maina Campos:rebooting it. Mhmm.
Susan Hally:To to remembering, like, what it's what it feels
Melissa Shere Beek:like. Right.
Susan Hally:Right? To go back.
Melissa Shere Beek:Right.
Susan Hally:And that's why I love the resets in Body Intuitive because we can use them every day on ourselves. They're like our superpowers.
Melissa Shere Beek:I love that.
Susan Hally:And then we could, you know, we don't have to source out all the time to go for a session, but we can say, what are we gonna do today? Like, where am I feeling weak? My digestion? Am I feeling low energy? Is it like, am I feeling, you know, angry?
Susan Hally:And so we have these these resets that we work with to help us balance that we can you know, move through things easefully. But I also wanna add that we didn't finish our middle elements, the fifth element.
Maina Campos:Oh, okay.
Susan Hally:So we have metal.
Melissa Shere Beek:Okay.
Susan Hally:Okay. So I just wanna loop back to
Melissa Shere Beek:that because
Susan Hally:we kinda like went off on a tangent all of it. Yeah. But we do that a lot.
Maina Campos:Do you think because energy is like that?
Susan Hally:Right? Yes.
Melissa Shere Beek:But that's normal.
Susan Hally:I like it. We do.
Maina Campos:But we're gonna we're gonna finish it. We're gonna go. Yeah.
Melissa Shere Beek:Go back to metal.
Susan Hally:So metal is in, the fall, right, autumn, and it is, connected with the, lungs and the large intestines.
Melissa Shere Beek:Okay.
Susan Hally:The emotion around metal is grief.
Maina Campos:And so Letting go. Letting go. Seen. Right?
Susan Hally:So if someone would come in with, let's say, constipation, which is very common, you know, right, you know, intuitively, I'm like, okay. I'm gonna check-in and see if they're imbalanced in their mental element.
Maina Campos:Right?
Susan Hally:Because they're having a hard time letting go.
Maina Campos:Okay. Through the muscle testing.
Susan Hally:We ask through, kinesiology muscle testing. And
Melissa Shere Beek:And what is the muscle testing? Is that a hands on like Reiki? Is
Susan Hally:it Well, there's different ways to muscle test.
Melissa Shere Beek:Okay. We've learned talking about acupoints and stuff like that.
Susan Hally:So It's a little bit different.
Melissa Shere Beek:Okay.
Susan Hally:So muscle testing is like when we're working in person on somebody, we can use hands on and we can use a sliding hand, like, you know, on the table and ask yeses and noes.
Melissa Shere Beek:Got it.
Susan Hally:Or we can use our finger and just slide on top of someone's skin and ask yeses and noes. And we have practiced so many times that we're so good at our yeses and noes now. Right?
Melissa Shere Beek:Absolutely. So the by you're listening to the body respond to you.
Susan Hally:Because your body knows. So we're just saying and by the way, let me preface by saying we always always ask for consent whenever we work with somebody.
Melissa Shere Beek:Sure. Sure.
Susan Hally:And so once we test, you know, whether we use the finger slide or the the arm slide or if we're working remotely, we can use like, yes, you know, show me a no, show me a yes, show me a no, show me a yes, or show me no, show me yes. Yeah. And these are ways that we can ask.
Melissa Shere Beek:The body. The body. Got it.
Maina Campos:And this is applied kinesiology,
Susan Hally:which is
Maina Campos:a little bit different than just kinesiology itself, which is testing for strength. Right? So sometimes when you go to a chiropractor, right, they'll have you, like, hold on a specific
Susan Hally:supplement Push up.
Maina Campos:And they'll test you for the strength. Like, does this make your ecosystem stronger
Melissa Shere Beek:or weaker?
Maina Campos:And then, you know, your arm will go down if it's weaker. So we can do that also. But with the applied kinesiology, we're setting up a yes and no communication Mhmm. To signal so that we have, you know, so that we have the ability to then create a formula Uh-huh. To tap the body into.
Maina Campos:So we're tapping over the head, the heart, the gut brain, and what the tapping is doing is it's creating
Susan Hally:New standing
Maina Campos:wave. A standing wave. So remember, our energy beams. Right? So our energy is never stagnant.
Maina Campos:Right. Right? We're constantly, like, with heartbeat, our energy is pulsing. And then when we're tapping over the head brain, it's saying, hey, brain, wake up. Pay attention.
Maina Campos:Become aware of this new possibility for healing.
Susan Hally:Right. Like new information is coming in. Right? It's like our brain is like our computer.
Melissa Shere Beek:That's
Susan Hally:it. So we have, like, all these things going on in our brain.
Maina Campos:So many
Melissa Shere Beek:tabs are open.
Susan Hally:A 100 Acupoints in our brain. Right? So we're giving these Acupoints like
Melissa Shere Beek:Mhmm.
Susan Hally:A tap to say, okay, wake up.
Melissa Shere Beek:Yes.
Susan Hally:New information is coming in. And then we Move into a heart. Into the
Maina Campos:heart. Right? Right.
Susan Hally:So the
Maina Campos:heart is where all the information gets distributed
Susan Hally:Right. Through the heartbeat. I always like to say, like, send the memo around the body.
Maina Campos:Send the memo. And also, we know things. Right? We memorize things by heart. Yes.
Maina Campos:You don't say, oh, I know. We never say I know this by brain. We know it and we remember Mhmm. To store the information. Store this new possibility for balance and healing at the heart level, and then our gut brain is make it visceral.
Maina Campos:Make it like gut, like, feel it in my gut. Innate. Mhmm. Very visceral.
Melissa Shere Beek:Mhmm.
Maina Campos:Very primal, innate, like, gut brain.
Susan Hally:And think about what's down in that lower dentin and that lower area is our whole digestive system, kidney system because we work in the front of the body but also works in the back of the body. Right. So we have our kidneys, our reproductive system, our digestive system. So when we're tapping into All of it, we're saying, okay. All these systems go online.
Melissa Shere Beek:Start yeah. Go online.
Susan Hally:Start, like, you know, start rebooting. Right? Re resuscitating. Right? Restoring that connection.
Susan Hally:Yes.
Maina Campos:Also remembering that we have more neurons, brain cells in our gut brain than in our actual brain and heart Uh-huh. Because all of the production of dopamine and serotonin levels, it's all happening from our gut brain.
Susan Hally:It's true. Do you remember when we first started, we only tapped in our head and our hearts? Yep. And then with new science and the last twenty years Yeah.
Maina Campos:There's a huge back brain connection.
Susan Hally:Gut brain has become the big brain. Right? That's the brain. So I think honestly like the
Maina Campos:It's our identity. That's why It's it's
Melissa Shere Beek:our ego.
Susan Hally:It's our third chakra. It's our immune
Maina Campos:immune shield and support. It's all happening in the gut brain and when we started tapping into the gut brain that, like, took our levels.
Susan Hally:It kinda changed our whole practice.
Maina Campos:It really
Susan Hally:did. Right?
Maina Campos:Yeah. With That's cool. Knowing about the microbiome. It's just
Susan Hally:it's It's just such an upgrade.
Melissa Shere Beek:You know? Talk about that. Are there certain foods that we should be doing doing to focus those whole another kind
Maina Campos:of food. Mean, diet would be totally a whole other Okay.
Melissa Shere Beek:Yeah. We can come back exercise for the gut brain health. Like, what should we be doing to because I know you're building a toolbox for your clients, and you're teaching them how to restore balance and all those things.
Maina Campos:How to be? Seasonally, there's gonna be specific things we should eat Uh-huh. Depending on what your dominant element That's true. Right.
Melissa Shere Beek:Right? And then that's only only one. Aspects of.
Maina Campos:And that's only one lens
Susan Hally:Mhmm.
Maina Campos:Of Chinese element. Then you have Ayurvedic medicine
Melissa Shere Beek:Yeah.
Maina Campos:And your doshas. Right. And so it really depends constitution. Right? Everyone's constitution, your doshas.
Maina Campos:It depends on what your blood type is.
Susan Hally:True.
Melissa Shere Beek:True.
Maina Campos:It also depends on, like, which season you are.
Melissa Shere Beek:That's what you like.
Susan Hally:Also, how you grew up, you're vivaxxist.
Maina Campos:Yeah. You know? Culturally So I
Susan Hally:ate so different in New York than I do here. Like, I wanted bagels and pizza in New York because And it's here, all I wanna do is eat salad and like hummus and things like that. So it's true seasonally Yeah. We
Maina Campos:feel like Seasonally, different times of, you know, like, different ages as well. Like, now, I just became 40, and I'm like, okay. I want protein, all the protein. Whereas, like, the last decade, I was, like, half vegetarian for half of the time, and now I'm like, how how do they do that?
Melissa Shere Beek:You know, I'm you're talking to a vegetarian.
Susan Hally:So Different stages.
Maina Campos:Yeah. You know? So it really depends on the stages, the blood type. So then we really work individually with each person and where they're at Yes. In their ecosystem, their story, their culture, their ancestry, the time they are And that's what elements they
Susan Hally:of our bit of our practice is that it's so inefficient. Stagnant. No. And everybody is different and everyone's makeup is different.
Melissa Shere Beek:It's so cool.
Maina Campos:And when we do have stagnation, that's where we have imbalance and pain. Right.
Melissa Shere Beek:Yes.
Maina Campos:Right? So stagnation and pain in the body, like, talk about chi. Right? If we wanna talk about our life force energy. Right?
Maina Campos:Like, our life force energy, the chi within our bodies, then that's like when chi is healthy, when our life force is healthy, it's vital. It's vibrating. It's moving. There's movement. Circulation.
Maina Campos:But then the moment we stop, pain is literally stagnant energy.
Susan Hally:Right.
Maina Campos:Mhmm. It's stagnation.
Melissa Shere Beek:It can't move.
Susan Hally:Exactly. Love about what we do because we're really able to get into the nooks and crannies, right, and the deep reserves of the body to be really able to,
Melissa Shere Beek:you know fulfilling. I'm sorry. I didn't mean to interrupt you, but I'm thinking how fulfilling that is to really help someone to move forward when they have been in such a place
Susan Hally:that their body's so unbound. We have seen, like, miracles, honestly. Right? It's really
Maina Campos:special and beautiful. And, I mean, people just have to be willing to go deep. Yeah.
Susan Hally:And and be open Yes. To And also, I just also wanna loop back to you said how you we protect ourselves. And one of the main things for me is that I have great colleagues like Mina where we give each other sessions and we really So support each we're always, you know, checking in and
Melissa Shere Beek:On each other.
Maina Campos:On our families because we can't really treat our families. Right.
Susan Hally:Too close to home, right? Yeah. Yes. So we do. We really are able to That's awesome.
Susan Hally:Support each other, and we have such an amazing community. I mean, a lot of my very dear closest friends have become my BodyTalk, BodyIntuitive colleagues. Right? It's been like an amazing journey for us.
Melissa Shere Beek:How beautiful to have a community like that.
Susan Hally:Oh, we're so blessed. We're so
Maina Campos:grateful so grateful to doctor John Valdheim who was the
Susan Hally:Can we just say
Maina Campos:Yeah. The creator and founder of the Body Talk System because our, like, bestest friends and network of healers and community has really come from the Body Talk System. Wow. This was an an acupuncturist and chiropractor from Australia who passed about now it's been, like, three years.
Melissa Shere Beek:Is
Susan Hally:it been? Wow.
Maina Campos:Got to study and travel with him
Susan Hally:Yes.
Maina Campos:And really learn hands on
Susan Hally:from him.
Maina Campos:We would go to Sarasota all the time. Wow. That's where the headquarters for the International Body Talk Association was. Thank So god it was so close to
Melissa Shere Beek:Yeah. I was gonna say that. Great.
Susan Hally:Road trips and just, like, come back, like, oh my god. I feel so whole
Maina Campos:and lit up. We were so lit up and animated and We have sessions with and excited Yeah. To, like, okay, let's get to work and let's get to practice everything we learned. And he was always just at the front and, like Yes. Forefront,
Susan Hally:cutting edge.
Maina Campos:Healing. Healing, and he just knew about everything. He was How
Melissa Shere Beek:lucky to have such a mentor like that.
Susan Hally:We learned a lot. Right? Yeah. We're very lucky. Wow.
Susan Hally:Yeah.
Melissa Shere Beek:Oh, that's so exciting. Okay. So what practices do you think we should incorporate? Is it, again, just an individual thing, or is there something that we all should be
Susan Hally:Well, let's just talk about, like, things that we love.
Melissa Shere Beek:Like Okay.
Susan Hally:Let's go through that list. What do you think about that?
Maina Campos:I that definitely, like, I think that having rituals that you're doing on a daily basis
Melissa Shere Beek:Right.
Maina Campos:Are gonna be the best way for optimal wellness and self care. Right? So just Okay. Taking a moment, like, five minutes a day to start with
Melissa Shere Beek:Mhmm.
Maina Campos:To go out and just be in the sun, to eat clean foods, foods that are nourishing. Right?
Susan Hally:To Move your body. Right? We love that. Dancing was one of our favorite things. Yoga.
Susan Hally:Ichi. Yeah. You know, really important. Right?
Maina Campos:Those rituals that we do. Like, you know, a lot of times people wanna get, like, get really complex with these things, but I think it's like the daily Yes. Habits that make it simple and just being consistent with self care.
Melissa Shere Beek:That's true. Consistency.
Maina Campos:Yes. Grounding and being in nature.
Susan Hally:And eating mindful. Right?
Maina Campos:Mindful eating. And just taking moments to express your emotions, to feel connected. Hugs, I think. Hugs are amazing. Connection.
Melissa Shere Beek:You know, I read somewhere that you you should have at least seven or eight hugs
Susan Hally:a day. I read the same.
Melissa Shere Beek:Where your heart talks to others. And when you're connected yeah. And when you're
Susan Hally:connected physically
Melissa Shere Beek:and all of that emotion and energy that that feeds us.
Maina Campos:Yes. Absolutely.
Susan Hally:It does. And supplements, like, it's important, right, to have plant based supplements and and tonics and tinctures. We love all that, and we love our essential oils. Both of us are very, very, you know, dedicated to our oil practice. I love frankincense.
Susan Hally:It's my go to. Can you
Melissa Shere Beek:tell us both a little bit more about not only your go to oils, but, like, the different meanings that the oils have that maybe you use with your with your clients? Like
Susan Hally:Yeah. Well, we muscle test. We always ask. Right? Everything we always ask, and everybody's different.
Melissa Shere Beek:Why is frankincense your go to?
Susan Hally:I just feel like it addresses on every level. I think it's, like, the highest frequency. Roses also.
Maina Campos:Yeah. I love rose.
Susan Hally:I love rose.
Melissa Shere Beek:What do they do? Tell me a little bit about
Susan Hally:is like an antibacterial, antifungal, antimicro microbe, anti everything, you know, fungus.
Melissa Shere Beek:Applying it on your body, or is this something that smelling in the air?
Susan Hally:I love to diffuse. Mine and I have big diffusers.
Melissa Shere Beek:Okay.
Susan Hally:And I, also like to smell frankincense. You could apply it on the acupoints, the meridian system in your body, and that really amplifies balance. Mhmm.
Maina Campos:Diffusing it in your home.
Melissa Shere Beek:Yes. And
Maina Campos:remembering that when we are breathing in anything, it's working with the olfactory part of the brain, which is within our limbic brain, which has to do with our emotional regulation. Sure. So it's really helping to work with our mood support.
Susan Hally:Totally.
Maina Campos:So all of these essential oils are getting us out of, like, different states of being. Mhmm. And each essential oil has different meanings. So for frankincense
Melissa Shere Beek:Yes. So tell me tell me a couple of
Maina Campos:So frankincense would be highest truth. Mhmm. Rose, I love the rose oil. It's the highest Love. Heart opening love, connection, vibration.
Maina Campos:Lavender is very good for calming. It's an antihistamine.
Susan Hally:Mhmm.
Maina Campos:So for anything for inflammation Infections
Susan Hally:on your body. Skin. Yes. Right? Skin.
Maina Campos:For any kind of skin thing. I remember.
Susan Hally:I love peppermint.
Maina Campos:I love peppermint. It wakes me up. It's energizing. Yes. It It wakes It's energizing.
Maina Campos:Me I love it to, like, work out. Like, before I work out
Susan Hally:I like to diffuse it Yep. Too. It's a good one.
Maina Campos:All the citrus oils are gonna be uplifting, very Lametti, mood boosting, serotonin releasing. Mhmm.
Melissa Shere Beek:So What's a grounding oil?
Maina Campos:Grounding oil would be all of, like, the trees. Mhmm.
Melissa Shere Beek:So, like,
Susan Hally:the balsamic Tea tree. Eucalyptus. Yep. We love that. Yep.
Susan Hally:All the tree oils.
Maina Campos:The tree oils. Marjoram. Spikenard.
Susan Hally:Oh, I love Spikenard. Forgot about that one. And then applying them, let's say you had a bronchitis or a lung infection. Right? Eucalyptus.
Susan Hally:Diffusing that or putting it on the lung points or on your chest. Remember when I had that really bad cough in one of our classes? Yeah. Mine was like putting off The Breathe oil.
Maina Campos:The Breathe oil that's like a blend of peppermint. And it was like
Susan Hally:opening up my lungs and my airway passages.
Maina Campos:That's what I use in my son. Like Yeah. He's coughing at night or can't breathe, I just rub, you know, oils on the bottoms of his feet and on his chest and down his spine. I remember one time, he had a really high fever, and, and I was like, oh, well, he's gonna be sleeping anyways. And I left a babysitter with him to, like, for a date night that we had preplanned already.
Maina Campos:And then halfway through the movie, the the babysitter text me, he's running a really high fever. And I said and she's like, please come home. And of course, we did. I said, please just rub the peppermint oil down his spine. She said within a minute, he like It's good.
Maina Campos:Yeah, his temperature went all the way down. He got up and he was like totally fine by the time we got
Melissa Shere Beek:home Wow.
Maina Campos:Just peppermint oil down his spine. You know? So
Melissa Shere Beek:So is that part of the acupoints you're talking about when you talk about the bottoms of the feet Yeah.
Susan Hally:Meridian system, acupoints, you know, just addressing all those, you know, points. Kidney two is a really good point on the butt Mhmm. To bring down fever. So putting a oil on that is really good
Melissa Shere Beek:Okay.
Susan Hally:To help with that. But what else do we do besides oils? We do so many things. We love LifeWave patches. I'll let my name talk about that.
Maina Campos:Oh, yeah. So I've got I've got my
Susan Hally:my five patches
Maina Campos:on, and so those are photobiomodulation
Melissa Shere Beek:patches. Tell us what that is.
Maina Campos:They're nontransdermal patches, which means there's nothing going into your body. There's just a frequency that's embedded within a crystalline lattice
Melissa Shere Beek:Okay.
Maina Campos:Pattern of the patch. And so with the LifeWave, what's happening is it's signaling to your body to make its own peptides. So you know how the sun signals to your body to produce vitamin d, but there's no vitamin d in the sun.
Melissa Shere Beek:Right.
Maina Campos:But it signals Stimulates. And stimulates and activates your own body's ability to produce Mhmm. Vitamin d, which is actually a hormone. Yeah. Right?
Maina Campos:And so the same thing, these patches, there's there's 10 different ones, but I have one on the back of my neck that's stimulating a peptide called the GHK copper peptide, c e peptide. That one's for activating stem cells in the body. So it's like the holy grail of renewal and rejuvenation.
Melissa Shere Beek:Generating. Yeah.
Susan Hally:The x 39?
Maina Campos:The x 39 for age reversal. Mhmm. And just to help, you know, everything in the body kind of light up in a different way. I'm wearing ones for energy enhancing to really activate my mitochondrial processes in the body.
Melissa Shere Beek:The powerhouse.
Susan Hally:Oh, it's a really good new science is so good today.
Maina Campos:So it's it's getting so instead of injecting peptides, I prefer to stimulate my body's ability
Susan Hally:naturally. To
Maina Campos:do it naturally with these photobiomodulation patches.
Susan Hally:So it's
Maina Campos:so they're wearable light Mhmm. Wave Mhmm.
Susan Hally:Because we are light. Right? Our body is all light.
Maina Campos:And we know that light creates change. Right? So we have, like, the infrared light craze right now. We know that the sun and so this is just using wearable light patches
Melissa Shere Beek:Mhmm.
Maina Campos:To create changes Right. Regeneration in our bodies.
Susan Hally:Light therapy.
Maina Campos:Yeah. So we do that. We also do the AO scan, which What's
Melissa Shere Beek:AO scan?
Maina Campos:Yeah. That's so that is working with, like, quantum frequency imprinting. So it's using sounds and different quantum imprinting wavelengths
Melissa Shere Beek:Mhmm.
Maina Campos:To work with specific people. And so with this, there's like a scan that happens, like vital scans. You can also make certain playlists. So everything has a frequency. Right.
Melissa Shere Beek:Right? We used to do a lot of sound stuff when we were doing yoga. Yes. Was a lot
Maina Campos:yoga. Sound And we're both yoga instructors as well. Mhmm. So we have, like, a background in, like, that as well. And
Susan Hally:Crystals. We both love crystals, and that really balances and helps. I always start a session with a crystal. Like, I always feel like it's very grounding.
Melissa Shere Beek:Do you have a specific crystal you
Maina Campos:start with? Quartz.
Susan Hally:Like, it's just for sessions, but for myself, I mean, I I'll ask, you know, what I need. Mhmm. I mean, you know, quartz is a good one. Rose quartz is always a good one.
Maina Campos:My favorite one is the indigo gabbro. So that's, like, one from Madagascar, and that one's one that's always, like, transmuting energy. So I feel like that one's really amazing for energy healing
Melissa Shere Beek:sessions. Each of them have a really a specific
Maina Campos:Intention. Intention. Yep.
Susan Hally:And helping to
Melissa Shere Beek:For protection or for healing or for organs or for body parts or for
Susan Hally:energy. Exactly.
Maina Campos:We also work with the the Bach flower essence.
Susan Hally:Oh, yes.
Maina Campos:We can't forget that. We can't forget how
Susan Hally:we're back. What's that? So these are flower essences. Mhmm. There's 38 of them, and Edward Bach designed these flowers and it's processed, you know, out I think it started in London, right, in English.
Melissa Shere Beek:Is it actually flower or oils from the flower?
Susan Hally:Well, it's in essence. What he does is he dries the flowers. Uh-huh. It's a
Maina Campos:sundown process.
Susan Hally:Right. And he just puts
Maina Campos:yep. He just puts the flowers and water, and then the sunlight seeps through them. And he was a doctor. He was a virologist.
Susan Hally:Doctor. Edward Brock. Yeah.
Maina Campos:And he's actually stopped his medical practice to just practice Yeah. These 38 essences that he discovered because he said that he could treat everything
Melissa Shere Beek:Right.
Maina Campos:From an emotional level. So these flowers work on our psychic and emotional levels. Wow.
Susan Hally:What's your favorite one?
Maina Campos:It depends on what I need it for. But, like, recently, I've been using one for, just feeling overwhelmed. Right? So, like, as a mom, I'm in my mom's stage, my mom era.
Susan Hally:Yeah.
Maina Campos:So Elm. Right? So feeling overwhelmed, and that one really helps me when I feel like,
Susan Hally:oh my god. I've got so much to do.
Maina Campos:Okay. Then when I start feeling balanced and I know that I no longer need it, I'm like, okay. I can do this one day at a time, one moment at a
Melissa Shere Beek:moment at a time.
Maina Campos:Yeah. One moment at
Susan Hally:a time.
Melissa Shere Beek:For sure.
Susan Hally:I think I like rescue because it addresses like a lot of everything. Mhmm. You know, stress and it just helps like
Melissa Shere Beek:I was
Susan Hally:gonna say everything now.
Melissa Shere Beek:Days with everything that we're inundated with Yes. Social media and news in the world and everything that's so divisive. Is there one that just really can't?
Susan Hally:Rescue Remedy would probably be my dose.
Maina Campos:Yeah. And you can get that at Whole Foods easily. So that one is one that's like a blend of five different
Melissa Shere Beek:Okay. Cool.
Maina Campos:Baccarat essence. And the way you do
Susan Hally:it is you dose. Yeah. So it's a liquid.
Melissa Shere Beek:How do you do that?
Susan Hally:Well, it comes in a little bottle like this Mhmm. And then you just dose. I take a couple of drops
Melissa Shere Beek:A couple drops. Okay.
Maina Campos:And so we're all
Susan Hally:muscle testing.
Melissa Shere Beek:Right. Yeah.
Maina Campos:And we're all always muscle testing, like, if how much a person needs. So it depends on the person.
Melissa Shere Beek:Right.
Maina Campos:And that's how we find
Susan Hally:And sometimes we could dilute it. Remember Alicia talked about putting it in water, like
Maina Campos:two drops in the water and drink it throughout the day.
Susan Hally:So throughout the day, you're drinking and
Maina Campos:getting little doses. Of getting the dosage. Yeah. Another modality that we really love is, the cardinal method modality with the crystals that blends crystals with family constellations.
Susan Hally:Mhmm.
Maina Campos:And family constellations is another practice that's working around, like, our family wounds
Melissa Shere Beek:Yeah.
Maina Campos:And how our
Melissa Shere Beek:family generational.
Maina Campos:That is didn't start with me. Right? That's an amazing book.
Melissa Shere Beek:We're carrying all of it. Mhmm.
Maina Campos:And it's just, like, in our DNA and in our cells. And, like, when we talk about epigenetics and, you know, like, a lot of times people say, oh, well, this is genetics. And, yes, a part of that is true, but then there's epigenetics. Right? So it's like turning on the markers, turning on and off.
Maina Campos:And what actually turns on and off markers is going to be our diet, our environment, our relationships
Susan Hally:Mhmm.
Maina Campos:The quality of our living. Right? So it's like those genetic things don't actually have to be your story unless you make it.
Melissa Shere Beek:Right. Unless you continue to carry all of it.
Maina Campos:So it's empowering. And it you know, and then a lot of times, like, if Susan and I are working with clients, and this is what I love. Like, if if we feel that a client like, we've seen them for three sessions and they're doing great, but sometimes built in with in our modalities of body talk and body intuitive, we can also ask if other modalities are a priority Mhmm. And if other practitioners are a priority. Then we would spur them out and say, hey.
Maina Campos:Like, I'm really enjoying working with you on these sessions. However, right now, your body's asking for another practitioner to see another lens. And then once you're done with that aspect, you we can come back and do some more work. But right now, like, your soul is calling for maybe family constellations or it's calling for
Susan Hally:Biogeometry. Biology. Trait.
Melissa Shere Beek:So you're always listening to what the
Susan Hally:body is telling you. You know? Asking and listening. Got it. Right?
Susan Hally:And that's what I love about what we do is that we're able to tune in and tap into that and ask, like, what does that person need and who is that practitioner?
Melissa Shere Beek:Absolutely. What's the biggest misconception with holistic healing?
Susan Hally:Well, people think it's woo woo and it's out there. But honestly, like, I think today, more than ever, it's more accepted.
Maina Campos:Mhmm.
Susan Hally:You know, twenty years ago when we both started into this practices, it wasn't that talked about. It wasn't really, like, out there. Right? So I think today, you know, with social media and the platforms out there
Melissa Shere Beek:An awareness,
Susan Hally:more awareness. More awareness. So much more. And what I love about that is, you know, there's so much new science. Even though we are using Chinese medicine from five thousand years ago, right, ancient wisdom.
Susan Hally:Right. Right? We're also, like, using new science like the patches or the Ao scale.
Melissa Shere Beek:I was gonna ask you, like, what sort of are there new modalities on the horizon that
Susan Hally:AO scanner, definitely. LifeWave for sure.
Maina Campos:LifeWave is huge. I would say the AO scan, quantum scales, like the Healy
Susan Hally:Stem cells.
Maina Campos:Everything related to stem cells.
Melissa Shere Beek:The patches were something new that I didn't know about.
Susan Hally:Yeah. Yeah. We'll have to tell you more about it when we go offline.
Maina Campos:AI assisted, like, tracking devices. Right?
Susan Hally:Mine is really good with this. She's my girl to
Melissa Shere Beek:go to, like All the new yeah.
Susan Hally:All the new therapies. The latest and the greatest.
Maina Campos:But I would say, like, the most advanced towards energy medicine right now is biogeometry. Okay. Like, that's really where I'm leaning my studies more into and studying heavily.
Melissa Shere Beek:Can you tell us a little bit more about the biogeometry?
Maina Campos:Yep. So when we talk about, energy medicine and when we talk about electromagnetic energy fields, right, so everything right now, like, we have, like, the Wi Fi, those signals. We have all the signals in the rooms here with all of the different, you know, wiring Equipment. And everything that's kind of unseen. So there's a lot of electrosmog in the spaces with our cell phones and microwaves and
Susan Hally:all kinds
Maina Campos:of things. There's Mhmm. Electro pollution
Melissa Shere Beek:Yeah. Mhmm.
Maina Campos:And that weakens our energy field. Right. And so biogeometry is a solution and an antidote to that. And so it's a it's a modality from Egypt. Mhmm.
Susan Hally:So it's kinda old too. It's old news.
Maina Campos:Well, it's yeah. It's been around since the early nineties by doctor Ebrahim Karim from Egypt.
Melissa Shere Beek:Uh-huh.
Maina Campos:And him and his family are definitely, like, taking this forward, and they do seminars, and they really teach about how to balance the EMFs.
Melissa Shere Beek:Okay.
Maina Campos:And not only the environment, but also the EMFs within our bodies. And there's a lot of practitioners that will go into a space, into a home, into different spaces, and they will be able to transmute the energy of, like, the electrosmock and turn it into something that's more balancing
Susan Hally:instead of detriment. Right?
Maina Campos:So the g
Susan Hally:g three. Yeah. Okay.
Maina Campos:Yeah. So biogeometry, I think, is really worth Okay. Looking And I feel that
Susan Hally:I like light therapy too.
Maina Campos:Yeah. But You know, I like light therapy.
Susan Hally:Yes. Absolutely.
Maina Campos:We love the photo colors, the chromotherapy. I mean, are so many amazing modalities. And
Susan Hally:so what I love about that is East meets West.
Maina Campos:So when I
Susan Hally:say that, it's like the old meets the new. Right. And so using both modalities in our sessions, I think we really are able to get a lot done in a
Maina Campos:way. And it goes back
Susan Hally:to the
Maina Campos:question you asked, like, is the biggest misconception? And I think that the biggest misconception to holistic healing is that it's like against science or that Mhmm. It's one or the other, and it's really not. I think it's the complementary blend Right. Of Perfect.
Maina Campos:You know, having, like, Western medicine along with Eastern medicines or alternative medicine practices and all of these other modalities because, you know, Western medicine is amazing with all of its technological advances and all of the healing that we can do nowadays Mhmm. And even for crisis intervention. Like, if I get into a car accident Yeah. Don't take me to Susan. I love Susan.
Maina Campos:But take
Susan Hally:me to a hospital. Right.
Maina Campos:No. I
Melissa Shere Beek:get it. But I like what you
Susan Hally:said that they
Melissa Shere Beek:complement each other. It doesn't
Susan Hally:have to
Melissa Shere Beek:be an either or. Think that's beautifully said.
Maina Campos:For prevention.
Melissa Shere Beek:Mhmm.
Maina Campos:Right? So for prevention Right. For maintenance Maintenance. Support, for regeneration Forgive. Yes, I want to know what are the latest and greatest in holistic medicine, energy medicine, and everyone in that field.
Melissa Shere Beek:Okay. So speaking of maintenance and balance, can you give our listeners a little reset? Can we do a little reset?
Susan Hally:Yeah. Let's do it. Okay. Yeah. Yeah.
Susan Hally:Just
Melissa Shere Beek:like a short and sweet little reset. That would
Susan Hally:be great.
Melissa Shere Beek:Let's do it.
Susan Hally:Okay. So we muscle tested as we do with everything, and we're gonna teach and show your audience Okay. The water element because we're in water element time.
Melissa Shere Beek:Okay.
Susan Hally:So it's a good time to balance. Okay. Right. Your kidneys and your urinary bladder and also just support your heart like we talked about because it's the opposite season.
Melissa Shere Beek:Okay. Good.
Susan Hally:So I'm going to have Mina be my model. Okay. And we work with charts. Just hold this up to show your audience. Right?
Melissa Shere Beek:Some people are only gonna be able to hear it.
Susan Hally:Okay. Some
Melissa Shere Beek:people will see it on YouTube. Okay. Give us all the context. Okay.
Susan Hally:So that's metal. So we're gonna do water and we know that's the wintertime. And so basically, what we're gonna be doing is we're gonna be accessing the deep reserves and the energy in the body. Because think about like winter
Maina Campos:Mhmm.
Susan Hally:Hibernation, people are going inward. Right? So we're we're, you know, reviving the will. Right? The willpower.
Susan Hally:And we're also helping to support the body in producing and storing the fundamental substances in our body. And what is that? That's our blood. It's our lymph. It's the water systems, the waterways.
Susan Hally:Mhmm. And we know our body is what? Like, 80% water. Right? Yeah.
Susan Hally:So we're helping to boost that. And, also, the water element works well with hormones, and that's like a big buzzword there.
Melissa Shere Beek:Right?
Susan Hally:The hormones and balancing and boosting our hormones. So we use, our brain and our kidneys, as a contact point. So I'm gonna have I'm gonna talk about this, and then we're gonna then we're gonna do the, the practical. Okay? Got it.
Susan Hally:So, basically, we contact our kidneys. Everybody knows their kidneys are behind their back, touch any part of the head or the brain. It could be the forehead.
Melissa Shere Beek:So we put one hand on our head
Susan Hally:One hand on the
Melissa Shere Beek:head. And one hand on our
Susan Hally:On our kidneys. Our kidneys. Lower your back. So lower
Maina Campos:your back.
Melissa Shere Beek:Listeners. If you're driving, don't do it. Exactly.
Susan Hally:Put one hand on your head and one hand on your back.
Melissa Shere Beek:The top of your head or your forehead? The top your head.
Susan Hally:Matter because, you know Anywhere in the brain. Yeah. The brain is all encompassed here. So it could be, you know, left side, right side, back of the head, top of the head, front of the head.
Maina Campos:Right?
Susan Hally:And then, you know, so we do that. Everything in Chinese medicine and these resets are done three times. Right? So we're gonna focus on in those areas. Mhmm.
Susan Hally:And then we're gonna pick we have three acupoints that support this water element. Okay? And the first one is heart seven, and it's on the left side.
Melissa Shere Beek:And You're so touching your hand
Susan Hally:down by your wrist. Crease. Right?
Maina Campos:Okay. You're on the pinky side.
Susan Hally:Pinky Pinky
Melissa Shere Beek:side of your left hand
Susan Hally:wrist And that's heart seven.
Melissa Shere Beek:Okay.
Susan Hally:This is an amazing emotional well-being or holding? We're gonna be you could tap or hold. Okay. You can always ask. Right?
Maina Campos:Okay.
Susan Hally:Let's say tapping for this Okay. For this session. Right? So we'll tap that. And this is the heart seven point.
Susan Hally:So this just helps with, like, you know, balancing the body, helping with sadness, helping with depression, helping with erratic behaviors. So this is a great point to just support the water system. Then we have our heart, c v 17 right in the center of the chest, right in the middle.
Melissa Shere Beek:Alright.
Susan Hally:And this is also an emotional well-being
Melissa Shere Beek:And are we tapping? We're so we're tapping the center of our chest.
Susan Hally:Tapping, breathing
Melissa Shere Beek:Right on the sternum.
Susan Hally:And tapping on the sternum. Right? So this is c v 17, love, harmonizing, openness, vitality. Mhmm. Such a great point.
Susan Hally:Harmonizing, really just really amazing point. Yeah. And then
Maina Campos:a great point for anyone that has, like, depression. Right? So remember how we talked about sadness. This is like a spirit point. This is like the deep spirit heart point.
Melissa Shere Beek:Got it.
Susan Hally:They call it the sea of chi points, right, in Chinese medicine. So we're poetic. Right? And then we have kidney nine, which Okay. We'll use the right side.
Susan Hally:And kidney nine is the right
Melissa Shere Beek:on our right leg.
Susan Hally:Right leg. Correct. Under the belly of the calf.
Melissa Shere Beek:So right here. Where the nice meat is.
Susan Hally:Yeah. Yeah. Right underneath that point. And it doesn't have to be exact. Right?
Susan Hally:It it works tapping?
Melissa Shere Beek:Because I'm giving a nice massage.
Susan Hally:I say that feels good. You can massage it. It's good for you. I'm gonna tap. So that's a tapping point.
Susan Hally:Right? And this is, like, such a great point because it boosts, you know, the blood even though we're on a kidney point. It helps with anxiety, fear, overwhelm, and it just does so many great things. Right? It's it's the kidney.
Susan Hally:So it's with the working with the waterways. So those are our three acupoints.
Melissa Shere Beek:Okay. Got
Susan Hally:it. And then we're gonna do an emotional sweep. Okay. So we talked about all the elements have an emotion attached to them or, you related to them, and it's fear or overwhelm or both.
Melissa Shere Beek:So how do we do an emotional sweep?
Susan Hally:So okay. Well, first, we'll identify, like, what am I overwhelmed about? And what am I fearful about? Right? And then we'll take a moment to to just kind of figure that out.
Melissa Shere Beek:Okay.
Susan Hally:And then with an emotional sweep, we use our breath, and we turn our head to the right side
Maina Campos:Mhmm.
Susan Hally:And we inhale from right to left through our nose, nostrils.
Melissa Shere Beek:And we turn our head to the left as
Susan Hally:we we turn turn to the left. And then we exhale from left to right and we release the emotion of whatever that is.
Maina Campos:Nice. And then again, inhale, right to left, and exhale, left to right.
Susan Hally:Great. So when we're inhaling from right to left, we're inhaling and we're bringing up the story, I am fearful of flying. And then when we're exhaling, we're releasing that emotion.
Melissa Shere Beek:Right? And we're
Susan Hally:we're reducing the intensity around the emotion.
Melissa Shere Beek:Got it.
Maina Campos:So impacting our body mind, so this will really letting it go.
Susan Hally:Yes. So we're releasing and letting it go. And then the last thing that we do is we tap, like Mina would talk about. We tap into our head brain.
Melissa Shere Beek:Mhmm.
Susan Hally:So it's like a light tapping. We start at the forehead, which is our prefrontal cortex.
Melissa Shere Beek:Both hands, both hands, we're tapping.
Susan Hally:Fingers, very light tapping.
Melissa Shere Beek:On our forehead, we're tapping. Tapping.
Maina Campos:And then down the middle of our brain, all the
Susan Hally:way top of the head, back down, like the whole head Mhmm. Thinking of it like onward tab. And there's 100 acupoints in our brain. So when you're tapping, it's like little Waking
Melissa Shere Beek:things up.
Susan Hally:Lighting up in our head.
Maina Campos:Down through our ears, even into the ears, and then all the way down to the back of the neck.
Susan Hally:Such a good Yes. Feeling.
Maina Campos:And then
Melissa Shere Beek:Nice.
Maina Campos:Over the heart. So then you're gonna come across and you're gonna start at the center and then open out. A pan, Okay.
Melissa Shere Beek:So we go from the sternum again and then across the chest to the shoulders.
Susan Hally:Don't have to go out to shoulders but you can go out right here to
Melissa Shere Beek:the Okay. Under the clavicle kind of
Maina Campos:the implant.
Susan Hally:Yeah. Under the clavicle. Right? And that's the heart brain, right? We talked about what that does.
Susan Hally:It's sending the message around the body, right?
Maina Campos:We gotta get to Yeah. The now the belly, navel area. Okay.
Susan Hally:A little above, a little below, a little outside the knee wall.
Melissa Shere Beek:So tapping our belly,
Maina Campos:tapping our belly, bringing that in.
Susan Hally:Great. And then and then we'll just take a few breaths and just let's see how
Melissa Shere Beek:you Right to left again?
Susan Hally:Nope. No. We're not sleeping.
Maina Campos:Just take a moment. Yeah. So
Susan Hally:that is the water elements. So let's do the practical now.
Melissa Shere Beek:Can we do it? Let's do it. Alright. Now that you know what we're doing today, buddy.
Susan Hally:We had to talk you through it.
Melissa Shere Beek:So let's over if you're driving?
Susan Hally:Yeah. No. I would recommend this. So I'm gonna invite everyone to just Okay. Refresh your posture.
Susan Hally:Okay? Uncross your legs. Mhmm. Just take close your eyes and just take a few breaths. Okay.
Susan Hally:Just in this very calm parasympathetic state. Yes. So we have two nervous system can operate in parasympathetic, which is calm, or sympathetic, which is like frenetic and chaotic. Right? So just taking these few breaths in this moment just to, like, bring everything into a parasympathetic nervous system.
Susan Hally:Great. Once you're there and you feel it, then you can bring your hand over your brain and behind your back on your kidneys. And then take a breath here and focus on these two areas. Right? Yeah.
Susan Hally:I even see your The biggest your AV guy’s doing it with us.
Melissa Shere Beek:I love it. I it. Hey. Sound engineer extraordinaire.
Susan Hally:Yeah.
Maina Campos:And the biggest thing here is our focus
Melissa Shere Beek:Mhmm.
Susan Hally:And our breath. So breathe in and breathe in like highlighting the deep reserves in the body, right, producing and storing all the substances. Reviving the will. Boosting the hormones.
Maina Campos:Amazing. And now we're gonna tap on the three acupoints.
Susan Hally:You take it through the points.
Maina Campos:So the left hand, you're gonna come down to the crease
Melissa Shere Beek:Okay.
Maina Campos:Of your wrist on the pinky side, and you're just gonna do a little tapping.
Melissa Shere Beek:Mhmm.
Susan Hally:And breathe. Take a deep breath in. Yep. Because breathing makes the shifts and the changes in the body. Right.
Susan Hally:Yes.
Melissa Shere Beek:Feel like it's opening room for that to happen. Yep.
Maina Campos:Heart. K. Heart seven point, and then we're gonna go to the chest. Mhmm.
Melissa Shere Beek:Back to
Maina Campos:our sternum. Vessels CB 17.
Susan Hally:Emotional well-being.
Maina Campos:Good. Deep breath. And then we're gonna tap on the right leg underbelly of the calf. They call this point the guesthouse. Kidney 9.
Susan Hally:Yeah. Nice. Good. Okay. One more time.
Susan Hally:Let's do it again. Focusing on our brain, our kidneys, breathing. So it's like a little bit of a meditation, focus, encompassing like breath, awareness. Good for kidney stones, anybody that's experiencing that.
Maina Campos:And then now we're gonna go to heart seven. The crease of the key on the And then just tap on heart seven. Mhmm. Take a breath. Deep breath.
Maina Campos:Full breath cycle. Full inhale and a full exhale, and then come to CV 17 at the center of your chest.
Susan Hally:And then kidney nine.
Maina Campos:On the right leg, underbelly of the calf. It's on the inside of the leg. Yes. Good job.
Susan Hally:Okay. Last time. Remember, we do
Melissa Shere Beek:this in three times.
Susan Hally:Yes. Right? Focusing on the brain kidney. And the kidneys.
Maina Campos:Sometimes I feel, like, the heat moving through the body.
Susan Hally:Nice. Yeah. I love that. And then we'll tap on those three acupoints. Ready?
Maina Campos:Seven. Again, crease of the left wrist. Don't think you're sounding. Breath. Conception vessel 17, center of the heart.
Maina Campos:And then on the right leg, the underbelly of the calf, kidney nine.
Melissa Shere Beek:Beautiful. That's nice.
Susan Hally:Yes. So now we're gonna do our emotional sweep.
Melissa Shere Beek:Okay.
Susan Hally:Okay. Right to left. So we're gonna take a moment and identify what is overwhelming you or what you're fearful about.
Maina Campos:First thing that comes to mind when we say overwhelm or fear in this moment or in any moment when you come back to this practice. Okay.
Susan Hally:Turn your heads to the right.
Maina Campos:Right shoulder and then inhale, sweet breath, deep breath inhale.
Susan Hally:Right to left.
Maina Campos:To the left shoulder and then exhale left shoulder to right shoulder. And release. Exhaling breath out. And then again, inhale. Take a full breath, deep inhale.
Susan Hally:And exhale release, let go. And one more time, inhale, full breath. And Good.
Melissa Shere Beek:Beautiful. So nice.
Susan Hally:And now let's tap in those three areas. Right? Three brains.
Maina Campos:Three axes.
Melissa Shere Beek:So we're tapping the front of her head, the top of her head,
Susan Hally:down to the sides of the ears.
Maina Campos:Light tapping, light fingers, down to the ears, swimmer's cap. Make sure you get all areas, all acupoints
Melissa Shere Beek:So we're cementing this now.
Susan Hally:Of the brain.
Maina Campos:We're getting the brain to wake up and become alert and aware of this new possibility for healing, for change, for balance. A new blueprint as we say. Mhmm. And then we're tapping in and changing the pattern, changing the patterns and the standing waves in our heart field.
Melissa Shere Beek:So we're tapping from the sternum and then out of the chest.
Susan Hally:I always say like the nipple and then in the center.
Melissa Shere Beek:Got it.
Susan Hally:It's like an arc line in our body. And then gut brain.
Melissa Shere Beek:A
Susan Hally:breath, everyone. Deep inhale. Nice long Love this. Yeah. Feels good.
Susan Hally:Right?
Melissa Shere Beek:Great Risa.
Susan Hally:Oh, yeah. Amazing. And then relax your hands, close your eyes,
Maina Campos:and just let it integrate.
Susan Hally:And notice how you feel. I always like to say soften your face, your eyes, relax your tongue. Just allow the whole body to upgrade. And when you're ready, open your eyes. And that's our reset.
Melissa Shere Beek:I love this. It's such a great way to incorporate this every day just to sort of either start or end the day just as a reset.
Susan Hally:That's beautiful. And we
Maina Campos:have five of them,
Susan Hally:actually six. We have five elemental resets, and then we have one that is called the stress mindset reset, which is also fantastic.
Melissa Shere Beek:Thank So you.
Susan Hally:So, yeah. So that's our our reset.
Melissa Shere Beek:This was a beautiful reset, and I hope our our listeners do that as well. I think it's terrific.
Susan Hally:Yeah. Of course. If you have any questions, you know, they can reach out to us.
Melissa Shere Beek:Yeah. I'm gonna put everything on listener links You know? So you can find
Susan Hally:it. Also love testimonials, so please, like, write in or let us know, like, how you feel and if you had any shifts or changes.
Melissa Shere Beek:Oh, yeah.
Maina Campos:It's a any experiences that you've had with body talk, biogeometry. Like, we love to connect with people from all over the world that love energy medicine too.
Melissa Shere Beek:I'm so grateful that you guys were here today.
Susan Hally:Thank you. Thank you so much
Maina Campos:for having us. Oh my pleasure. So fun.
Melissa Shere Beek:Oh, no. This is so fun for us. Before I end my sessions, though, I do something called quickie questions. You guys game?
Susan Hally:Yeah.
Melissa Shere Beek:Okay. Let's do it. What do you waste time on?
Maina Campos:Scrolling. I would have to
Susan Hally:say Okay. Instagram. Okay.
Melissa Shere Beek:What's your favorite word or a word that you use frequently? Love. Oh, that's a good one.
Susan Hally:I use frequently. I'd have to think about that.
Melissa Shere Beek:Okay. Do you have a favorite word?
Susan Hally:I'll come back to you.
Melissa Shere Beek:Okay. Come back to me. What is the first thing you do in the morning?
Maina Campos:I drink water, which is actually something we didn't mention for, like, the self care rituals that are really, like, small but important to do daily. I think hydration is huge, which I'm glad that we did the water element. Yes. But I think talking about hydration and, like, really good quality water
Melissa Shere Beek:Oh, we're
Susan Hally:on the edge of Yeah. So important. Yeah. Yeah.
Melissa Shere Beek:Very important.
Susan Hally:So the first thing I do is I actually get up very early and I meditate. I I go online, and I do the Sudarshan Kriya with the art of living. So I do breathing practices, and I meditate for an hour.
Melissa Shere Beek:Beautiful. Yeah. Beautiful.
Maina Campos:Before I became a mom, I did that too. Yeah. I'll get back
Melissa Shere Beek:to other things you're doing in the morning that
Susan Hally:are good for my hydration too. A little bit of lemon in your water helps to balance.
Melissa Shere Beek:Good for
Maina Campos:your for sure.
Melissa Shere Beek:So good for your gut. Okay. Is there a talent that you would like to have, and what is it?
Maina Campos:That I would like
Susan Hally:to have. I would like to know how to sing.
Melissa Shere Beek:Yeah.
Susan Hally:I would love to learn how to sing. Yeah. That's always something I wanted to do. Right.
Maina Campos:Yeah. A talent that I would like to have.
Melissa Shere Beek:You have to get back
Maina Campos:to me on this. Yeah.
Susan Hally:Have to get back to you
Melissa Shere Beek:on that one. Well, being healthy means that every part of you as well, mentally, physically, emotionally, and spiritually, that we are completely balanced in every way. So I thank you both so much for coming in here today. I thank you for the reset. I thank you for the knowledge, the information, the awareness.
Melissa Shere Beek:I was honored to have you both.
Susan Hally:Oh, I feel the same way, Melissa. Really grateful.
Melissa Shere Beek:Thank you
Susan Hally:so much. Thank you very much. And I'm so proud of you. I mean, I know you so many years. Like, three decades?
Melissa Shere Beek:Yeah. I think a little more than three decades.
Susan Hally:And I remember we were room moms together. Yes. And we did a big science project together. And I always loved you. And then I love you too.
Susan Hally:Thank so admired you. And then I found you in dance class Yeah. In jam session. Yeah. And I said to mine on the way here, I always love to stand behind Melissa because she always knew all the steps.
Maina Campos:Sorry. She said she's the best dancer in the class.
Melissa Shere Beek:I just love that's like my love. I just I love to dance.
Susan Hally:And so
Melissa Shere Beek:It's me everything. It's sort of my reset, my balance. It's a way to clear my head, clear my body, and sort of move. Move and begin again. Yeah.
Melissa Shere Beek:Every day. Yeah. Thank you.
Susan Hally:So I'm just so happy you're doing this because it's just such a perfect thing.
Melissa Shere Beek:Thank you. Yeah. I love it. Aw. Thank you so much.
Melissa Shere Beek:Thank you. I'm so honored.
Susan Hally:Me too.
Melissa Shere Beek:To our listeners, thank you so much. So grateful that you're here. Keep listening. Keep learning. Keep laughing.
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