Celebrating the Soundtracks of Generation X
Join Nick and Jodie as they explore the iconic music that defined the lives of Gen Xers from 1965 onwards. Sharing personal stories, significant historical moments, and the evolution of music across decades shaped by social and cultural changes.
Hi everybody. Welcome to this first ever episode of Needle Drop Nation. Yes, this is where us Gen X's can come and hang out, have a good time, and as my beautiful friend Jody said the other day, it's like a little love letter to our child. I'm Nick Wood. This is the amazing Jod Bars. So, Jody, introduce yourself.
Hello everybody. I'm Jod Baras and um welcome to Needle Drop Nation. Um this is the time when Nick and I celebrate, embrace, explore the music of our youth and how it's carried on throughout the years. And what a way to celebrate it through today's podcast and our show.
Exactly. And Listen guys, if you don't know what Gen X's are, it's very specific. It is 1965 to 1980. But of course, if you're a Gen X or you're born in that era, but of course, you didn't necessarily die after 1980. So, we do continue. What we're going to do is we're going to walk through basically the soundtracks of our childhood, even pre-child, and look at over the next few weeks, uh, we're going to be looking at the five-year gap between 65 to 70 or 69. I can never work out what the five years is. So, we're going to be talking about that. But today, we just want to talk about exactly why we came up with this idea. The different genres of music that that actually covers. 15 years is not a great deal, is it, Jody?
No, it's not. As a matter of fact, throughout those 15 years, um, so much was going on in the world. Um, but at the same time, we look at these artists, you know, these musicians, I mean these legends literally transform from one phase to another onto the next phase that influenced so many generations. Um and one thing I must say is that I we came at the right time. We were born at the right time, Nick. We were born at the right time.
We were absolutely. This is some this is some great music. I mean we were chatting about it earlier on and man 1965 that was incredible. We had the Beatles, the Stone We had we even had Pula Clark which was awesome. Now we are going to we are going to be scrubbing over some icons that don't make great. So Ken Dodd, you're out.
Ken Dodd, you're out. But the
speaking 65, but you don't make our podcast.
But you know the great thing about the music that we explore and you know whether it's rock and roll, you know, R&B, we know that that umbrella. It's been inspired by the blues and I think that's been an overarching theme that you and I talk about, you know, um on our conversations and it and it's what's inspired
this, you know, it's um amazing because 1965, 19 you're looking at the Temptations, Diana Ross and the Supremes, um and the list goes on. I mean, it's it's just fantastic to see how we literally em listen to that on the radio, on the vinyl, and how it's inspired a the music has inspired a lot of people down the road.
When when you think about it, you know, I'm I'm I'm right at the edge of Gen X, I have to say, and so embarrassed to tell you, but but yeah, so you know, you know, I was born in ' 66, and so a lot of this music going through the Gen X generation, you know, it wasn't until I was a little bit older that I started to understand just how important some of these people were and even you know into the I've always said obviously I just love 80s music and that you know early 80s scene was was my real scene but my teens and growing up we had some amazing amazing stuff going all the way through the 70s we're talking we're talking Bowie we're talking T-Rex um obviously don't know whether you know but Jod is in in New York I'm in the UK and what I love when we talk about This is the crossover between between the two nations. They're obviously two massive music loving nations and and yeah, when you talk about the blues knits it all together, Jody, I've got the old bass guitars there. If you know, if you go jamming with anybody, basically, if you know like a little 12 bar blues riff, you're pretty much pretty much you can jam to anything because everything is is pretty much those those blues blues rhythms and those chords and those notes and, you know, pretty much jam on to to all sorts. But yeah, who are the standout artists, artists for you, J? Who are you looking forward to really digging deep on?
Oh, I want to I want to talk about, you know, Marvin Gay, you know, he's been a a huge idol of mine. Um, and my mom um listening to the radio as a child, you know, he's always there's been always a huge change with him from a baladier to looking at the world today with what's going on. Um, Um, I also love listening to Stevie Wonder.
Oh my god. Yeah, of course.
Stevie Wonder is like, you know, very dear to me.
Yeah. You mentioned Pula Clark, right? Um, some of the songs around that time
sound, you know, there was a lot of composition from Bert Bakarak in the mid to late 60s into the 70s,
you know, which is really interesting, right?
What an icon. Yeah.
And then, you know, Just like you, I I think the height of music came to me like I would say early 80s um you know before I was a teenager but also as a child you know in the 70s was such an interesting thing. I was born in 1970 just to let you know but my brother and I were exposed to so vinyl I know they're like what's a track vinyl cassette right before before the CD came out, right? And listen to the radio, fighting over the radio. He liked rock. I said, "You know what? I like disco, too." So,
we always had to take turns. Take turns. Even with the vinyl, take turns because my brother loves to listen to music. Um, you know, he could he could play name that tune and he's got it. He, you know.
Yeah. And and it's it's funny how we we talk about our siblings because, you know, I I have to blame is probably the wrong word, but you know, my love of Pink Floyd them from my brother buying their early albums. Uh, and boy have they changed over the years
and Led Led Zeppelin. He had Led Zep for I think he introduced me to to Led Zeppelin as a as a youngster because he was how old is he? He's four years older than me. So he he he picked up on that uh when he was away at school and would come home in the holidays and be like, "Wow, what's this?" Not another blleming drum solo for goodness sake. It did have a rather a lot of them I seem to recall, but yeah. Led Elo. Elo. Yeah. Jeff Lynn.
Jeff. We've got
We've got some big names to to cover, haven't we?
Oh, yeah. I mean, we got Dylan. We got Tom Petty. You know, now you brought up Jeff Lynn, and I was thinking about the traveling Wilbur, so I said, "Might as well go along." Dylan was part of the team, too, as well. It's like,
weren't they cool?
Yes.
Roy Orbison. Roy Orbison from Canada.
So, yeah. Then bringing into the um early 80 late 70s early 80s you know I you know you mentioned Led Zeppelin um you know it's so amazing how even elo carried us and so did Led Zeppelin into mid to late 70s right and watching them evolve and uh it's just it's it's amazing um then you get into disco era
we're not missing that at all
you cannot miss that we could even have a show dedicated to that Yeah, disco era cheese.
So what we're talking BG is massive crossover between film and music as well. So BG, but certainly disco bgonna summer, we talked about that earlier. Donna Summer with Georgio Maroda, you know, who later was involved in the Flash Dance soundtrack, which is still the early 80s.
Um, and it's just it's incredible. And then now you get into the early8s electronic music and even craft work came from the late 70s and as they had a huge influence on you know the electronic hip hop scene you know in the early 80s with you know and also with folks like the Sugar Hill Gang you know I was it's just so impressive to see how things cross over um across you know from pond you know pun to pun you know
yeah yeah and it and it we've seen because you know We have done a little bit of research before we decided to do this podcast. Uh we we've seen a big a big crossover um of musicians between backwards and forwards. I mean I'm just thinking some of some of the more more glamorous not glam rock but some of the more glamorous uh people that I remember as a kid that my sister's absolutely loving was of course Osmond. Um
uh what was his name? Cassidy.
David Cassidy. David Cassidy. And then he had Sean Cassidy. Right. The younger brother, but David carried on
throughout the world,
you know, and then you had the carpenters.
Oh my god. Yeah, of course.
Karen and Yeah. the the siblings.
Karen. Richard.
Karen and Richard. Karen was the drummer. Richard was the keyboardist or the pianist.
I didn't know that until quite recently that she was such a she was a drummer. It was like, wow. You know, sorry. She's I mean, bless her. She's stick. She looks like one of her drumstick. to be honest.
Well, she had that unique voice that just, you know, melted your heart when you heard her on the radio, you know.
Yeah. Nothing else like it at all.
And of course, you know, those in those days, you know, we're thinking, man, we didn't really we had I was saying, shoot, we in the UK, we had no breakfast TV. Everything everything was on the radio if you you know, we had nothing else to switch off in the morning.
And so, yeah, you either had music and the kids would have their own little transistor radios.
Oh. downstairs. If I went downstairs to to to my parents, it would be radio 4 on the BBC. So, yeah, didn't want the news. That was for certain. But yeah, no transistor radios, then little needle drops. We then little record players that we had. We were chatting the other day about
remember the 45s. The 45s they had, you know, the 12 inch and then you had a 45 where you had to insert a plastic piece to make it make the little record fit on the turntable.
Yeah. What was all that about? I don't get this. Why don't you just make a smaller version of the album to make it?
That was so weird, wasn't it? Yeah. Some some records you had that big hole in it. You had to put a little a little plastic thing in to make it right. So, and then and you know, some of these I remember a friend of mine had a a record player that used to wind up. Used to wind it up, let it go. And I'm sure I'm sure it played some things really fast and some things really slow as a power went down.
And those little those little needles, but there some thing was there. There's something about lifting it up,
putting it on,
you get a little
hearing that and everybody, you know, you just get so excited to hear the song start, right? And it it created such an emotion just that experience because, you know, you turn on something that's streaming, of course, you hear the song, but it's just that experience of even when you hit the cassette button.
Yeah. The cassette
song to play. Mhm.
Man, Jody, remember those party tapes we used to make? I'm guessing I'm guessing that was a thing in the US as well as it was in the UK.
Talk about bringing albums to parties. Yeah. Hell yeah.
And I think that's where I got a lot of the influence from um older friends and older cousins, you know, who would we would go to parties and everybody was saying, "Okay, who's gonna have their album first?" You know, up I was like, "Oh my gosh, this is like a jukebox kind of thing, right?" So, you know, people would take turns, you know, and it was great because it varied from I remember, you know, Kiss
there was Kiss,
you know, then you'd have the Ramones and then you and then, you know, you'd have, you know, folks like then you'd have Bowie. I mean, it's so interesting how, you know, we had
I was, you know, teenagers, you know, they say, "Okay, ninth graders hang out with ninth graders or freshmen. No, but we had a mixed crowd and that also was part of my musical education being around older teenagers and just listening to their influence and catching up and, you know, moving forward because in the early 80s, you know, we were it was like the new wave was emerging here. Um,
and uh, you know, it was just so fascinating listening to folks or um older teenagers who listen to Rush Moody
Blues. Yes. You know, you know, it it really it it made a difference and it it really expanded um you know, youth in New York's um taste in music and it wasn't just one specific genre at a young age. It was multiple types of genres
that that resonate and that keeps staying inside and grows with you. So, you know, that a lot to thankful to be thankful for for that.
Yeah. And and it's funny, isn't it, how, you know, I don't know about you, but certainly for me, you know, there were some artists artists um that I used to listen to and like it was almost like their music evolved as we evolved. And it was, you know, just it was really great. And then we think of some of the because you think, you know, all these people in our Gen X, you know, 65 to 80, I mean, There was so much going on. We had um well I know in the US you had the the Vietnam war crisises uh on both sides Atlantic. I think
lots lots going on.
The Cold War, the death of Malcolm X, a lot of assassinations happening in the 60s. I mean it's incredible. You know how you know music plays.
Yeah. I mean I mean I mean bang up to date obviously we we saw the passing of poor Jesse Jackson yesterday. Yesterday.
That's right. It was yesterday.
Yeah. And of course, he goes all the way back to that, you know, the the Martin Luther King movement. And yeah, we've had a we'll have a we'll have a Kennedy assassination to deal with in one episode.
Oh my gosh.
But I guess the
and that was stuff was televised. There was stuff There was stuff that was televised that was very disheartening for, you know, people around the world to see on television like um moments in during the Vietnam War. Um, and you know, when I think about those things, I think about songs like from Buffalo Springfield, you know, and Joan Bayz as far as asking and even Bob Dylan, you know,
well, I mean, you know, when you talk about music legends, he is just unbelievable, you know. I remember I remember as a as a very young young teenager, you know, falling in love with his songs and they're just so they're just so good. I couldn't I couldn't put my I really couldn't put my my finger on exactly what made it so good.
Mhm.
It was just I don't know whether it was the words or the melodies. There was a kind of like a like an African influence to it all as well. Just to make Oh, speaking of African influence, course just thought we're going to have to mention Simon and Garcle.
Oh yeah, definitely definitely.
See, this is the thing, Jake. We're going to be talking about this stuff. I think we remember all these all these different ones, you know, in the UK. The rubets, no one's ever heard of them, don't worry.
So, you know, it's it's amazing how you see a lot of um music really overlap. And
I think that it's also about the intentions and the rhythm and the beats of what embodies the message of peace at the time when there was so much restlessness going on. Um it's, you know, I feel that there's a lot of that resonating in songwriting, but I also feel that the concern and the call to arms as you'll see later in the 70s
comes about you know um so there is that um journey that
that we will go through and that we will take our audience with as far as understanding where time went and um how it affected a lot lot of artists and music writers and just even if you go back to looking at the stones you know, you got um what is it? Can't get no satisfaction. And it's funny in England they titled it no satisfaction,
you know. Um it's interesting. Um and then you see um the stones coming into the 70s, you know, with brown sugar,
late 60s, early 70s. And it's got a serious funk to it as well. So you do see an evolution of the artists.
I remember I was I was a big Stones in my early teens. I was a big Stones fan. I don't know how I'd found them. I think I I'd got their greatest hits of one stage
and wow, it's amazing. Um but and then I just went through and started buying all their all their albums as I could as I could get my back catalog uh together. And I remember Goats Head Soup, one of their albums.
Wow.
Just that was one that had Angie. Angie is that one.
Yeah. It's a beautiful ballad. Yeah.
And they they did a brilliant ballad, I have to say.
They really
um so from there and I think Yeah, we we'll still catch them up with Start Me Up and things.
That was my period. That was my actually my period with the Stones when I really got into them was from the album Some Girls.
1980 and the song that I found pretty sexy. But this is you're talking 1980 79 Um, miss you.
Miss you. Yeah, man. I miss you.
Yeah.
Yeah, that was a great one. That's really I saw the other day actually on a on a YouTube video was um I think this was one of their 80s ones. It was waiting on a friend.
Oh, yes.
Such a I know they just they just look phenomenally cool as well. Keith Richard sitting on the stairs having a smoke. The guys behind him Jaggering up, you know, they go to a bar. There's the rest of them in the bar and they're busy drinking. It's like, "Okay, we'll go and go and get our instruments and start playing." Ah, I just I I loved it. Absolutely loved it. Yeah. Big Stones, I have to say.
You know, it's also true.
This is what I love about you, Jody. You You know, I I I can I've got pretty good memory. Obviously, not age one or two. Um your knowledge of music when we talk, you have got such an amazing knowledge of music and and how people different people were in different bands and they collaborated and went off to do different things. Uh how where did you get your depth of knowledge from?
Oh well I mean just to give a little background about me I'm you know in undergrad in college I um studied media communications. I wanted to become a journalist. I also did documentary work um you know for PBS independent work um worked with some um independent documentarians. Then uh took my master's at the new school for social research here in New York City. was a teaching assistant and um my focus was science fiction as a realm for social commentary which did not only focus on film and television
but it also focused on music. How do you analyze sci-fi you know in music and it hey listen you know you talk about sunra Clinton parliament funk you know hey
wow I'm I feel I feel I'm a bit of an education
hey you know and it's like it's whether that's another trip, you know, like I said, that's another trip. But no, it's um the fascination for me with music, it always talk, you know, it always expresses the emotion that and I look at even through the eyes of of a kid, you know, when you listen to music, how does it shape the way you think of the world and you know how we get it so connected with the lyrics and the melodies and the beats and it also helps us develop our identity of what we listen to, what do we associate ourselves with and it starts at a very early age. So that's how come I became very connected with music. Um and it's funny like even school music that I learned I'm like yeah okay you know we learned some Broadway songs for recital but in just listening to the radio watching television listening to other forms and mediums I up to this day I was would dedicate time to really, you know, listen to my Spotify. Depends on what mood I'm in.
It's just it's it'll always be in my veins. So,
it's going to it's going to be good. Now, we're going to drop in the show notes. We're going to drop a little uh Spotify playlist
uh while we can't work out how to actually play some songs
without being shut down. But if that's our you know,
but but there is going to be in every episode we'll have a little Spotify playlist and which will be the songs that we're going to be chatting about. And you know, if you're if you're watching and you want us to cover certain, you know, what's your favorite song at the end of the day? I mean, Jody, did you ever I'm thinking back when I was a kid, you know, songs sometimes I just play them, you get one and you just play it over and over and over again. Just
as a matter of fact. Yep. other day that I was I was listening to um
Ziggy Stardust um and I was um playing over and over and over um Starman.
Yeah. Yeah, that's good.
Love the guitar on that one. Um and that was I saw the footage. Wow. Um I I saw footage of him in um Top of the Pops with Ziggy. He was Ziggy.
Oh my diamond.
The red hair,
the blade, you know, the the suit with his um Yep. Yep. So, it's just it's it's amazing. That's another artist that you see an evolution and um I
Yeah. A total reinvention, wasn't he? He's gone through so many different genres, but nailed, God bless him, nailed every single one that he did. I can't think of of any album of his I didn't love. You know, they were all I mean, maybe the last one was a little bit iffy, but but um we'll give him some credit. But yeah, all of all through the 70s and the 80s, uh 90s. Yeah, he he just did some great ones.
Yep. And even as a kid, I remember the first time I actually saw David Bowie was um I mean, Sunny and Sher, they were very popular in England. I know that they were in the top of the charts in the 60s,
more so in the UK. Interesting than in the United States. I think they had more prominence. Um, but what was really fascinating was when Sunny and Sher separated, Sher had her own show
and
yeah, I didn't I didn't realize just how mega famous she was
and like a lot of her clothes were um designed by Bob Mackey who did the designs for Carol Bernett, you know, um, celebrities share um, you know, uh, Raquel Welch. So, M
and women.
Exactly. So he was a well he was a renowned designer uh for celebrities, female celebrities, Bob Mackey. And uh I remember so Sher had her show and guess who was her special guest musical appearance by David Bowie during his uh thin white dude period.
Oh.
And he was singing Fame.
Oh, that must have been good. That must have been Amazing.
Yes.
Oh, I have to find that. I have to go find that on YouTube. I saw one the other day of her and it was with Jackson's Jackson 5.
Yes. And she was dancing with them. I saw
doing a medley and and a her energy just blew me away. I was like, "Wow." Um, of course, the Jacksons were just awesome. I absolutely loved them to bits. Uh, but yeah, I couldn't believe I couldn't believe how good she was. And from my perspective, you know, when I was growing up, yeah, I knew I got you, babe. But then really I didn't really know who she was until Starruck. So she's more of a movie.
Um
Oh, she did a great job. I think she didn't I think Oh, was it where she she also was nominated for an Oscar.
Yeah, she was, wasn't she?
Mhm. For
I remember she was nominated for that. This was in the 80s, a film that she did in the 80s.
Um but yet it's it's interesting to see how going back to David Bowie, you know, now the overlap of share, you know, and then you have David Bowie and then you talk about so Saturday mornings or in the during the middle of the day, we would all gather around the television um to watch um either Soul Train.
Oh, right. Okay.
Which was at 11:00 on Saturday mornings. Um and then at 12:30 was American Band Stand.
Oh, we never I know about it. I've never seen it. I've seen it. referenced in movies but not least in Greece.
Um yeah, that must have been so cool to watch. That was always live.
Yes. And the thing is that was also Yeah. I think it was in Philadelphia. Um so what was really interesting was um so talk about David Bowie. Another thing that I noticed was there was David Bowie performing at Soul Train performing Golden Years. I was like
Oh, another wonderful Another one.
Yep. Yep.
Go on and on, Nick, about the evolution.
That's it. We could we could have a deep right here and now, but this is just a little flavor of of what we're going to be getting into. It's going to be so cool. If you're a Gen Xer, even if you're even a boomer, you're going to absolutely love the music and hope it's going to trigger amazing memories. When we talk about it, Joe, I I do I just get such a massive flood of all these great memories coming back. You talk about you watching bandstand and and soul train.
Yep. Soul Train.
Yeah. We didn't get them in the UK. We were watching the banana splits. La.
We had the banana splits, but that was 6:30 in the morning for the children earlier
before they went to school. You know, it's like when you have your breakfast, watch banana splits.
And this is this is I think I think, you know, we are we are definitely being spied on by by social media because, you know, we chat We were, you know, we're sitting there chatting all about the 70s and everything. And then that pops up on my YouTube feed was the was the intro to the banana splits. And I'm thinking, hang on a minute. Someone someone's someone's listening in. How cool. But hey, I didn't care. I played it anyway. It was super.
And we got the cool then we got the monkeys. We got some real great
elements to to come through. Oh, I'm so looking forward to to to over the next
many many many weeks just going through all these these different songs. It's going to be great, Jody. And if you're listening guys or watching, you know, do let us know in in the comments in the show notes u what you'd like us to to cover as well. What's what's triggering your what your great memories? What are your favorite tracks? All these things because you know as if as interactive as we can be um we will be for sure. So this is episode one.
How many we going to get Jody? Loads. Oh, and yes, I'm we're excited for next week's episode, which will be focusing on the year 1965. Again, a very remarkable year for Gen Xers. It's the start of the morning, the bore the the time the time.
Yeah, that's it. It's day one. We're going ground zero on Gen X's,
right? That's right. We're going to cover all ground.
But no stone will be left unturned. We haven't even mentioned that we went to the moon in the Gen X generation.
That's true. And there was that whole competition about who's going to go around the moon first, right? That was what the competition was about.
Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. And you know, some of this and I know there'll be some naysayers. Did we really go? Yeah. Do you think of course we did like don't even think about it,
crazy people. But uh but Yeah. So, we got we got all that to come. So, this is going to be the weekly show. Uh, Needle Drop Nation. That is so cool, Jody. Brilliant.
Yes,
I love it. Guys, until next week. Hope you enjoyed this uh this this first little show of ours. Can I say we're going to be here every week uh just updating and you just follow the journey along. So, Jody, any any final words to to send our beautiful watchers and listeners away for the week?
Oh, yeah. Absolutely. Absolutely. This is just scratching the surface. You know, we've got so much in store for you. We definitely would love to embrace, connect, and enjoy um you know, the time when we all spend with you as we um as Nick and I go through memories and uh walk you through how this is so much of a love letter.
It is love letter to our childhood, to the Gen X generation. Call every Everybody have an amazing week and say get in touch. We love it.
All right. Bye everybody. See you next week.